The GOP primary for Johnson County district attorney only looks like a local race. James Dobson of Focus on the Family has endorsed incumbent Phill Kline, praising him in a campaign letter as the only prosecutor since Roe v. Wade to bring a criminal case against Planned Parenthood. “Throughout his career he has never failed to act to protect the most vulnerable and innocent among us,” Dobson wrote.
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Check out the Helm thread; Kline has that finger thing down, only with the opposite hand. Is that the fastest reincarnation on record or what!
I thought it was Bill Clinton that perfected the finger thing.
No surprise Kline gets endorsed by a fellow America hater. Does Kline endorse Dobson’s child beatings?
Kline will get nominated by the Republics; let’s hope the Democrats have a good candidate to defeat him.
All his other baggage notwithstanding, is Kline thought to be a competent lawyer?
does it matter?
It’s Johnson County, they can do as they please.
Dobson endorses Kline.
Sometimes I just want to sigh and say, why the h*ll bother? Every time you look around, another one of those roaches skitters out of the woodwork.
Dennis
Maggotpunk
Posted July 9, 2008 at 1:07 pm | Permalink
No surprise Kline gets endorsed by a fellow America hater. Does Kline endorse Dobson’s child beatings
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Maggot you have said this several times. I have read books by this man and have never seen what you tell us. Give a real quote from this man saying this or say ‘I exaggerate to make myself look smart’ and I don’t have a clue what he advocates.
If you are saying that he thinks spanking a child with a hand on his bottom well you probably think I beat my kids. Sometime you need to get their attention.
All three of my sons have finished college, have successful business careers, haven’t served any jail time or ever been arrested so probably we did something right.
My youngest is 38 so they weren’t raised when kids were told whatever they chose to do was ok. What the left calls beating we on the right call correcting. Look at the kids of today and tell me which method is most successful.
Granny,
Oh my, this younger generation is going to the dogs! Every older generation’s been saying that at least since the Roman writer Juvenal. So there are two possibilities;
A. Those Romans must have been gods for us to have degenerated so much and still walk on our hind legs.
B. Sure, the younger generation are rotten little brats who manage to improve enough and have selective enough memories regarding their youthful escapades that they can age a bit and call the next generation rotten. What exactly did your parent’s generation have to say about yours?
YDL,
“Every time you look around, another one of those roaches skitters out of the woodwork.”
What the democrats need to do is hire the Lord of the Dance to come do some serious stomping!
okobserver, I’m sorry you could take the five seconds to do a google search. Rest assured that I, as usual, can back up my claims.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20080625/cm_huffpost/109151
From his book Dare to Discipline.
“I had seen this defiant mood before, and knew there was only one way to deal with it. The ONLY way to make Siggie obey is to threaten him with destruction. Nothing else works. I turned and went to my closet and got a small belt to help me ‘reason’ with Mr. Freud …
What developed next is impossible to describe. That tiny dog and I had the most vicious fight ever staged between man and beast. I fought him up one wall and down the other, with both of us scratching and clawing and growling and swinging the belt.”
I suppose you think spousal abuse is a good way to discipline a wife so she doesn’t overcook the pot roast again. Good ol’ conservative family values.
PunkMaggot’s posts are so ridiculous as to defy understanding. I am beginning to realize he really is that sick an individual.
What an idiot.
“All three of my sons have finished college, have successful business careers, haven’t served any jail time or ever been arrested so probably we did something right.”
posted by okobserver
And okobserver, congrats, that’s a heck of a lot more than you can say about the maggot, esp. the arrested or jail time I bet.
“And okobserver, congrats, that’s a heck of a lot more than you can say about the maggot, esp. the arrested or jail time I bet.”
Okay, document the times I have been arrested and spent time in jail. I back up my claims lets see if you can do the same (or are you mentally inferior and can’t match my abilities?)
Jeez, Maggot, none of my kids nor I have ever been arrested either. Damn. We must be like, you know, law abiding citizens.
I did get a few speeding tickets, however, does that make me a bad person?
Oh, and I did get an illegal left hand turn once, but I think that one was politically motivated.
Hey Maggotpunk?
Does that link link to another link?
I am not finding the part where Dobson says “The ONLY way to make Siggie obey is to threaten him with destruction. ”
YIKES! Maybe Hank will weigh in here and opine on Dobson’s method of working with dogs. TOTALLY wrong.
I DID find the part where his mother beat him with one of those old wire girdles?
Geez no wonder Dobson is so screwed up!
“I did get a few speeding tickets, however, does that make me a bad person?”
Now if only your dad beat you senseless with a belt of a 2×4 then you wouldn’t have gotten those traffic tickets.
I’ll be those guys in Guantanamo are the most law abiding citizens now. Conservatives will be demanding their release so they can show the world how disciplined they are after being tortured for a few years.
I doubt Boxlock will produce any evidence of arrests. Lying is perfectly acceptable for a fundy, it’s just proof that fundies have no morals.
“Hey Maggotpunk?
Does that link link to another link?”
Certainly. Here’s the link to the book excerpt. Clearly okobserver wasn’t familiar with Dobson’s book on raising children. Not following Dobson’s teachings probably helped him raise decent kids.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/rev-dobson-on-rev-dobso_b_8734.html
Thanks.
BEATING a dog? The man is an idiot.
No wonder he also came up with a sentiment like…”“A little bit of pain goes a long way” in teaching “how to submit to other forms of authority … — his teachers, school principal, police, neighbors and employers.”
Such a wonderful and loving man of faith.
Maggot you really are as stupid as your name indicates. You proved nothing. I did’t say that his book helped me raise my kids. Obviously they were written after my children were raised. I did say that I spanked my children when it was needed. That is exactly what he says. Until you read the book and not huffington exerpts then don’t presume yourself to be an expert. Nothing could be farther from the truth.
As for your jail time – I won’t even comment on that but from listening to the posts by some here I also would not believe that many here didn’t spank a few backsides in raising their children.
Stop pretending the left assended to earth from the heavens pure in heart and soul only to be corrupted by the dastardly right.
I provide a quote and you ignore it. What else is there to say? You’re close minded and can’t accept the facts even when it’s from the horse’s mouth.
A quote taken out of context and clearly making a point and not to be taken literally. Maybe you should read the book and see how it all comes together. The man has a strange sense of humor for sure but he does make statements in jest.
I still say Maggot you are fudging a point and not looking at the entire statement in context.
Maggot if taken literally can’t you just picture the fight between him and the little dog. Running up and down walls, both swinging the belt. Yep I am sure it happened just like that!
“Those were the days when a girdle was lined with rivets and mysterious panels. She drew back and swung the abominable garment in my direction, and I can still hear it whistling through the air. The intended blow caught me across the chest, followed by a multitude of straps and buckles, wrapping themselves around my midsection. She gave me an entire thrashing with one blow! But from that day forward, I measured my words carefully when addressing my mother. I never spoke disrespectfully to her again, even when she was seventy-five years old.” (p. 23-24, The New Dare To Discipline)
How is that taken out of context? How is his beating his dog taken out of context? Funny how you’ve never heard of the quotes before but you immediately know all about them as soon as I post them. You are a liar, you’ve proven that much. It’s too bad Dobson rejected his psychology background and believes punishment has positive results. He just likes beating children for the sake of beating them.
“Maggot if taken literally can’t you just picture the fight between him and the little dog. Running up and down walls, both swinging the belt. Yep I am sure it happened just like that!”
Why do you feel the need to beat animals? Does it make you feel like a big man to beat something weaker than you? You’re just a sadist. It’s sad that children were exposed to your sadistic mentality.
Maggot his mother hit him with a girdle! Get a grip here. Do you think he was bloodied. I’m sure if it happened today SRS would step in and Nola herself would come pull him out of the home.
What is with the left. The absurd to you is gospel and serious topics are just something to poke fun at.
Lighten up!!
Funny how you claim it was taken out of context and you only mention a part of the quote. Thanks for proving yourself a liar, but you are a fundy so that’s redundant. The police should be informed that you are prone to abusing children and animals.
Maggot why don’t you just take care of that. You are really so far out of reality that I doubt you ever make it back.
Just wondered Maggot were you ever spanked as a child?
Why don’t you post your personal information on line so people can report you to the authorities?
Well Maggot why don’t you. That is why blogs are anonymous. To protect you from unwarrantee charges that nuts like you would profess to know something about.
But you know Maggot knowing the people that I know and how well they know me, I doubt that anyone would take your yammering seriously. They would see you as a joke as most on here do.
“Well Maggot why don’t you.”
I’m not the one advocating child and animal abuse. But I will the moment Boxlock presents that evidence that I have an arrest record.
You know, they say you can tell a lot about a man by looking at his enemies. If that is true, then based on the idiots on this thread who are attacking him, Dr. Dobson sure must be doing something right.
Oh, by the way, stupid people, corporal punishment is NOT child beating. In fact, not using corporal punishment when the situation calls for it, is a form of child abuse.
Chris, when would be the appropriate time for someone to beat you?
“The ONLY way to make Siggie obey is to threaten him with destruction. Nothing else works.”
That is a VERY telling statement about Mr. Dobson as well as anyone who is not deeply hit by it.
Consider Dobson’s stands on gays or abortion.
IF he had the power, would he threaten gays with total destruction for misbehavior?
Would he beat a woman seeking an abortion?
I do believe he would. Kline probably would too.
That’s some God you folks got.
BJ and Maggot have you ever heard of poetic license. All words are not to be taken literally.
If Dr. Dobson was as destructive as you two would like to believe he would have been arrested long before now. He is much too public a figure to get away with something like you are advocating.
You two really do need to get a life outside of blogging.
“You two really do need to get a life outside of blogging.”
Funny how I read your comment on a blog. Physician, heal thyself.
Touche’ Maggot.
I am leaving town on Sat. though and won’t blog for a week unless our hotel has wireless.
“I am leaving town on Sat. though and won’t blog for a week unless our hotel has wireless.”
You can probably check on hotel.com or travelocity and they will tell you.
One thing about Maggie, he is not just a borderline hypocrite. He actively promotes killing children in the womb, while acting holier than thou about corporal punishment?
Abortion. The ultimate child abuse.
“BJ and Maggot have you ever heard of poetic license?”
That little bit about him and the dog doesn’t sound tongue in cheek to me.
“One thing about Maggie, he is not just a borderline hypocrite. He actively promotes killing children in the womb, while acting holier than thou about corporal punishment?”
Who have I aborted?
Blue Jay wrote:”That’s some God you folks got”.
Finally, you wrote something I can agree with, even if you meant it in a totally different context. Someday you will bow before this God. The fact that you deny his existence now is of no consequence. On that day the only thing that will matter is whether you have a relationship with Jesus Christ. The Bible says “it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of a righteous God. Get right while their is still time.
“On that day the only thing that will matter is whether you have a relationship with Jesus Christ.”
So Jesus is single? Will he send Bluejay flowers and take her out for a nice dinner? Perhaps he is one of those stand off shy sort of guys waiting for her to make the first move.
BlueJay
Posted July 9, 2008 at 6:48 pm | Permalink
“BJ and Maggot have you ever heard of poetic license?”
That little bit about him and the dog doesn’t sound tongue in cheek
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So BJ you took literally “What developed next is impossible to describe. That tiny dog and I had the most vicious fight ever staged between man and beast. I fought him up one wall and down the other, with both of us scratching and clawing and growling and swinging the belt.”
I especially like the part about them both growling and swinging the belt. I can just see that little dog swinging can’t you?
““it is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of a righteous God.”
I know, I know.
That’s the problem with Dobson, Phelps and a lot of you of the faith.
Your book reads like a Grimm’s scary fairytale.
You read it over and over. It gets inside you.
A lot of you, you are not filled with love or hope or some sort of spirit.
You are scared crapless and cautiously relieved divine retribution will belong to someone other than you simply BECAUSE you are so cowed.
Come to think of it, even your “good news” is cloaked in misery and pain. Your savior died for you.
Maybe he should have lived for you? Maybe a little more focus on the fishes and the loaves and the Sermon on the Mount and a little less on death?
Pray for me if ya want. But please don’t wish such misery and the desire to share it with others on me.
“So BJ you took literally “What developed next is impossible to describe.”
Well?
He says it is impossible to describe.
And then he tries to describe it.
What he DOES describe is….bizarre and clearly cruelty and a bad misunderstanding of dogs at the very least.
What did he leave out?
BJ I am living a life I love. I have a terrific family with eight of the most terrific grandchildren in the world. I do what I want to do. I have a moral code that I adhere to not because I am forced but because it allows me to live the kind of life I am comfortable. I do allow that moral code to affect my opinions and actions in all areas of my life. I am very grateful to Jesus Christ for loving me enough to die for my sins. My beliefs. Not open for discussion.
Now if when I reach the end of the road and I am wrong about Jesus Christ what have I lost. I lived the life I wanted to live, I have helped many around me to make their lifes better, I have been kind to children and animals. I am content with the state I am in.
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“Pray for me if ya want. But please don’t wish such misery and the desire to share it with others on me.”
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I will pray for you if you like because prayer does have power. Even medical doctors have recognized this. They don’t agree why but then have seen the result. Please don’t make the leap that I live in misery. It would be very wrong.
“I will pray for you if you like because prayer does have power. Even medical doctors have recognized this.”
Yes, the best prayer study showed that prayer had a negative correlation on health. So if you want someone to do poorly, pray for them.
“Many studies done over the years indicate that the devout tend to be healthier. But the reasons remain far from clear. Healthy people may be more likely to join churches. The pious may lead more wholesome lifestyles. Churches, synagogues and mosques may help people take better care of themselves. The quiet meditation and incantations of praying, or the comfort of being prayed for, appears to lower blood pressure, reduce stress hormones, slow the heart rate and have other potentially beneficial effects.
But the most controversial research focuses on “intercessory” or “distant” prayer, which involves people trying to heal others through their intentions, thoughts or prayers, sometimes without the recipients knowing it. The federal government has spent $2.2 million in the past five years on studies of distant healing, which have also drawn support from private foundations.
San Francisco cardiologist Randolph Byrd, for example, conducted an experiment in which he asked born-again Christians to pray for 192 people hospitalized for heart problems, comparing them with 201 not targeted for prayer. No one knew which group they were in. He reported in 1988 that those who were prayed for needed fewer drugs and less help breathing.”
This is what I was referencing – a study that shows some benefit. I personally believe in prayer but can understand the skeptics who don’t believe.
I read and re-read both “Dare to Discipline” and “The Strong-Willed Child”. I can’t say that either made any huge difference. I also have a hard time trying to relate that Dobson with the current one, even though I know it’s one in the same.
I don’t agree with much of what Dobson now spouts. He’s become a looney, but I’ve noticed that too much time spent trying to interpret a book, over and over and over again, that was never really meant for such perusal, can cause extreme battiness in some.
But that’s my take on it. I don’t expect everyone (or even anyone) to agree.
when I read Dobson’s book “the StrongWilled Child” I knew he was a sadist. Crush their spirit authoritarianism is what causes kids to commit suicide or become sadists too.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002371684_gayconference10m.html
ABUSE and POVERTY and lack of education cause people to become violent individuals.
Byrd’s studies are not double blind studies and suffer from numerous methodological errors.
I think this should say “Kline has friends going to LOW (wink wink) places”.
revoke dobson’s tax exemption.
Four years ago this fall, an ardent pro-life warrior sent me a link to a delightful audio/visual offering regarding post-abortive individuals.
At once, a voice was heard amidst the treacley music and glistening sanctimony. It was a cloying voice, a child’s voice, a voice of authority and wisdom…..
Actually, it was a doll’s voice. But I gathered it was the voice of my unborn child. And she had much to say to her errant maternal figure down here on earth.
It wasn’t that she was cruel. It wasn’t that she was unforgiving. All in all, dolly handled herself much better than her fully human counterparts.
So why was I subtly offended by this s–t? Even though I knew that the sender, a guitar-strumming godly goliath who was only trying to save my soul, wasn’t trying to be offensive?
This might be part of the reason: I wasn’t 6-7 weeks pregnant with a plastic doll. At that early stage in the pregnancy, no one knew whether it was male or female. I couldn’t be sure, but I’d like to think that any child of mine wouldn’t speak in such tinkley terms. Somehow, some way, my claim to KNOW that which was unknown seems like arrogance.
Oh, and the closing sonnets of this s–tfest was even more wonderful. Who did I see but the kindly, crinkly, pickled face of good ole Dr. Dobson. Speaking with the all-knowing arrogance for which he is known, he assured me that I was a murderer, but I was forgiven.
After viewing this condescending crap, can anyone fail to discern the beauty of the late Pope John Paul’s “The Gospel of Life?” At his best, the late Pontiff was far more eloquent, compassionate and discerning than your average fundy preacher.
Let us ask ourselves, would the late Pope have ever issued such an encyclical to the Manson women or drug addicts who kill the elderly for a 15-minute high? I can hear it now: “The Church knows your difficulties…..yes, we know, a crackhead needs her fix.” Or, “That Charlie M – he sure was fine, wasn’t he? No WONDER you let the slobbering canines eat before you did – just because that handsome, clap-infested cretin told you to!”
Perhaps I shouldn’t be such a bee-yitch. I know the Glen Campbell wannabe was only trying to help in 2004. I’d probably be a whole lot happier if I wuz real, real stupid.
But I’m not stupid. I perceive when I’m being subtly insulted.
And I’m havin’ none of it.
Granny,
“BJ and Maggot have you ever heard of poetic license. All words are not to be taken literally.”
Poetic License is valid only for poets. Dobby is not nor has he ever been a poet and is unqualified to use poetic license. Writing badly about beating his dog is not poetry, it’s sadomasochistic porn. It does however speak to massive insecurity as to his own lack of any real authority.
do u also think this this thing’s fabulous?