John McCain’s campaign is trying to downplay Barack Obama’s speech today in Berlin, which drew a huge, cheering crowd. But it is significant that, according to one poll, 72 percent of Germans want Obama to be the next U.S. president and only 11 percent favor McCain. Obviously, Americans will make up their own minds, based on a variety of issues and factors. Still, Europe matters in the war on terror and on other issues. For example, we need more European troops in Afghanistan. “America can’t do this alone,” Obama said in his speech about Afghanistan. It’s easier to get that help if other countries respect our president.
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When Europeans vote, I’ll worry about what they think. Otherwise, it’s irrelevant.
I watched the speech and saw many soldiers (American!) in the huge crowd. I would guess a fair number in that crowd will vote. Oh, and btw, great speech!
Don’t dismiss European support for Obama
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Oops, to late…
Agreed. Why would an American care who the krauts want to be the American president? Except maybe to know who to vote against. Europe doesn’t have clue about our issues. They simply want someone who agrees with them.
I hope Germany elects him…and he stays.
Take McCain as well.
How scary that with all of the domestic issues we have here there are those that think that Obama’s reception in Europe is important.
How far will this love affair with Obama go before we all see the empty suit behind them.
Did you hear his great speech in Israel ” “I’m here to say as an American and as a friend of Israel that we stand with the people of Sderot and with all the people of Israel,” Obama proclaimed in prepared remarks, “I’m deeply committed to helping Israel achieve a lasting peace with Palestinians who are prepared to accept the State of Israel, renounce violence and terrorism, and abide by agreements.”
Who does he visit tomorrow. Another great speech again? The man has great speech writers but when he opens his mouth unscripted we see the real man.
That damn msm! Now they’re making the Germans love Obama too. McCain can’t gen no respect!
The only ones irrelevant are bush and his party!
Phantom
Posted July 24, 2008 at 1:57 pm | Permalink
That damn msm! Now they’re making the Germans love Obama too. McCain can’t gen no respect!
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Yes, but remember these are the same people(German) that love Hasselhauf. (sp?)
Phantom
Posted July 24, 2008 at 1:57 pm | Permalink
That damn msm! Now they’re making the Germans love Obama too. McCain can’t gen no respect!
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Yes, but remember the Germans also believe David Hasselhauf (sp?) is a great actor.
‘I come to Berlin as so many of my countrymen have come before. Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen — a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world.’
‘People of Berlin — people of the world — this is our moment. This is our time.’
For years the world has been eaten up with jealousy because of the prosperity of the United States. They finally see in Obama a man set to deliver to them something they haven’t been able to accomplish. America groveling on her knees asking to be part of a global economy and one government. Should I trade my dollars for euros now or wait until he is elected?
My god, the tighty righties, we don’t need nobody’s hep, we cain do it all ourselves, are all a’ quiver today.
Don’t cha just love the smell of flop sweat drifting in from the right?
New definition of terror: Wingnuts panicked about what’s going to happen when Obama is elected.
As the McDonald’s ad goes: I’m lovin’ it.
Dennis
“For years the world has been eaten up with jealousy because of the prosperity of the United States.”
Spoken like a true jingoist.
Don’t travel much, do you, Oklahoma-man?
BTW, if we’re so prosperous and they’re not?
Why is our dollar worth only 75 cents of theirs?
They have more colors in their money so it’s worth more?
Good post, Dennis.
Ya know what else is telling–Obama gets mobbed by friendly crowds wherever he goes. He walks freely among them shaking hands.
Imagine the reception Bush would get, if he had the guts to go out in public like Obama does . . .
Bwack, bwack, buk, buk, bwaack.
BushCON call that “all’s clear.”
The last thing you want to do have an open mind, listen to the guy and give him a chance! That’s Unamerican, isn’t it; or does it depend on what Party you are talking to, or what Party you are talking from?
I can never seem to get that part straight.
Secret Service code name for Bush:
Commander Chickensh!t.
Commander Chickensh!t.
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Bush isn’t French
It would hilarious, if it weren’t so sad, to see the conservative bitch and whine about Obama’s speech in Germany today.
And to call them “krauts?” Despicable.
We live in a global community now. We do not call all the shots as we once did. Thanks to Cheney/Bush, we have lost the moral high ground and our economy is no longer the greatest in the world.
In eight short years, the Cheney/Bush team has reduced us to second class levels.
Obama is trying to bring back the respect that America once had and the conservatives cry about it.
Well, sincerely, phuck all of you.
Why is our dollar worth only 75 cents of theirs?
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They brush their teeth and women shave less, freeing up capitol?
“Bush isn’t French”
If it weren’t for the French, we would still be an English colony.
Dumbass.
“Thanks to Cheney/Bush, we have lost the moral high ground and our economy is no longer the greatest in the world.
In eight short years, the Cheney/Bush team has reduced us to second class levels.”
Hogwash. Gramm was right. Our economy is not the greatest? Second class levels?
You people are something. But not something special.
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CapnAmerica
Posted July 24, 2008 at 3:46 pm | Permalink
BTW, if we’re so prosperous and they’re not?
Why is our dollar worth only 75 cents of theirs?
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Chuckle… Ignorance on display.
This guy thinks he IS president of the world. Poeple who follow this guy need help.
“But not something special.”
$10.6 trillion in debt.
Low growth rates.
American companies bought by foreigners.
Endless, unprovoked war.
Bush, lowest approval rating in history.
Hooked on oil with no plan for recovery.
Dumbass in the White House, hated by most of the world.
Environmentally unconcerned.
Falling test scores for school children compared to other nations.
Far behind other nations in health care, life expectancy and infant mortality rates.
But!!!!!!
We have the best basketball team on Earth.
Maybe.
“Chuckle… Ignorance on display.”
So, Mr. Outlander, why IS our dollar only worth $0.75 of the Euro?
Ignorance?
WSClark
Posted July 24, 2008 at 4:00 pm | Permalink
“Bush isn’t French”
If it weren’t for the French, we would still be an English colony.
Dumbass.
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What have they done for us lately…Phuck em’ and their little dog too!
“What have they done for us lately”
Why do they have to “DO FOR US?”
So, Mr. Outlander, why IS our dollar only worth $0.75 of the Euro?
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Google “currency valuation” for a primer on the factors affecting it.
Suck it.
“Although the economies of countries like China and India are growing at an incredible rate, the US remains the nation with the highest GDP in the world – and by far: US GDP is projected to be $13,22 trillion (or $13.220 billion) in 2007, according to this source. That’s almost as much as the economies of the next four (Japan, Germany, China, UK) combined.”
Why do they have to “DO FOR US?”
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Because they take our aid money, just like every other sh*t box country, well I say stop the gravy train and use the money to help OUR country.
The top five states. Suck it harder.
#1) California, it is often said, would be the world’s sixth- or seventh-largest economy if it was a separate country. Actually, that would be the eighth, according to this map, as France (with a GDP of $2,15 trillion) is #8 on the aforementioned list.
#2)Texas’ economy is significantly smaller, exactly half of California’s, as its GDP compares to that of Canada (#10, $1,08 trillion).
#3)Florida also does well, with its GDP comparable to Asian tiger South Korea’s (#13 at $786 billion).
#4)Illinois – Mexico (GDP #14 at $741 billion)
#5)New Jersey – Russia (GDP #15 at $733 billion)
Nothing worse than a radical conservative whining. Afteer 7 years of incompetance, lies and unconstitutional behavior by criminals in the Whitehouse, you still get idiots complaining. What country are you people from?
Better find a toilet prairiedog
“you still get idiots complaining”
Leave clark alone.
“Reuters-Obama addresses an estimated crowd of 200,000 people in Berlin, 185,000 of whom were just there for a concert by the Decemberists”
Saw the picture, and thought it was Woodstock, “There must be half…”
How long until the ‘It was photoshopped’ e-mail starts making the rounds of the McCainist?
“…European support for Obama”
one word: meaningless
“Saw the picture, and thought it was Woodstock”
Uh, to get back to the, uh, the warning that I’ve received you may take it with how many however many grains of salt you wish, that the brown acid that is circulating around us is not specifically too good. Uh, it’s suggested that you do stay away from that, course it’s your own trip, so be my guest, but, uh, please be advised that there is a warning on that one ok?
lindainks55
Posted July 24, 2008 at 1:43 pm | Permalink
I watched the speech and saw many soldiers (American!) in the huge crowd. I would guess a fair number in that crowd will vote. Oh, and btw, great speech!
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I keep looking at the crowd trying to find all of those military men. She must have a magnifying glass. The concert certainly explains the crowd. He doesn’t draw crowds like that here.
He’s still waiting for that bump in the polls this tour was supposed to bring him. Hasn’t happened. Maybe his campaign will figure out he needs ‘American’ voters.
“Agreed. Why would an American care who the krauts want to be the American president? ” — Outlander.
Of course, we shouldn’t let America slip into isolationism.
“For years the world has been eaten up with jealousy because of the prosperity of the United States. They finally see in Obama a man set to deliver to them something they haven’t been able to accomplish. America groveling on her knees asking to be part of a global economy and one government.”
What a mind blowingly absurd comment.
What I mean is that these pissants are always upset about isolationism, except when it comes to caring what others think. That’s in case you didn’t get it.
The Euros also have a far greater love (than we do) for American icons like Michael Jackson and David Hasselhoff.
The economy of Europe is about equal to that of the U.S. as is the population.
Agnatha”
There are two extant groups of jawless fish (sometimes called cyclostomes), the lampreys and the hagfish, with about 100 species in total. Although they are in the subphylum Vertebrata, hagfish technically do not have vertebrae.
We all learn something every day. Today, it was in the field of marine biology.
My newest favorite name for the presumptive democrat nominee: Barack Hussein Hagfish Obama.
I like it.
Nice change of pace. When Bush visits Europe thousands of people are in the street protesting. When Obama visits, thousands are in the street cheering. It’ll be good to have an elected President again.
Maybe Europe would like to return to the days both countries respected each other; you know, the days prior to Bush tramping Europe’s suggestions, life style, and experience into the ground. McCain sure as hell wont make that happen. Maybe Europeans think Obama can. I happen to agree to the point Obama might be the man to make that happen, or at least try to.
Who does this Obama think he is? He goes to other countries to get votes for America. They don’t vote in our elections, we do. Not only that, while he speaks he puts down his own country. Why would you want a man who hates your country to be your president?
This man has been given the best in America. He goes to Ivy League schools and he gets a good education and then he is actually nominated as a Presidential candidate and he has the gall to put down the country that gave that to him. What an egotistical pompous a$$.
Who does this Obama think he is? He goes to other countries to get votes for America. They don’t vote in our elections, we do. Not only that, while he speaks he puts down his own country. Why would you want a man who hates your country to be your president?
This man has been given the best in America. He goes to Ivy League schools and he gets a good education and then he is actually nominated as a Presidential candidate and he has the gall to put down the country that gave that to him. What an egotistical pompous a$$. The audacity, not just of him but people who support him. How can you not see the truth?
“Obama might be the man to make that happen, or at least try to.”
There is trying and there is doing.
“Try to” Oh, brother.
Another important endorsement Obama received today, just as dramatic and relevant:
“PARCHMAN, MISSISSIPPI — Before he died Wednesday evening, death row inmate Dale Leo Bishop apologized to his victim’s family, thanked America and urged people to vote for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.”
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fleettwood
Posted July 24, 2008 at 5:24 pm | Permalink
“Obama might be the man to make that happen, or at least try to.”
There is trying and there is doing.
“Try to” Oh, brother.
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One will never succeed without trying. That is logic 101, something of which you obviously have no knowledge of at all. Might I suggest the following link to aid you in your education?
http://tunes.org/wiki/basic_20logic_20101.html
Then again the following link to logic 101 may suit you better:
http://home.tiac.net/~cri/1999/logic101.html
Try to:
Humbug. Kumbaya.
Why would you want a man who hates your country to be your president?
You’re talking about George W. Bush, right?
Never mind. The question was redundant and too obvious.
Talk about World Government. Anybody read PNAC lately? Dick and George want to rule the world! That’s going to be hard to do when nobody in the world likes them.
Who cares what the rest of the world thinks of us? Try another pre-emptive invasion and see who agrees to help.
“Try another pre-emptive invasion and see who agrees to help.” You mean like Kerry?
“Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime … He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation … And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction … So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real …”
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
WS
The King of France reluctantly helped the American Revolution, true.
The King of France later lost his head, during the violent French Revolution. In fact, many of the French who were friendly to the United States also went to the guillotine.
President John Adams felt pushed into signing the “alien and sedition act” primarily because the French who lived in America were trying to push America into another war with England.
Slave revolts in the Carribean forced many of the French to flee to America. The French were a radical influence at that time.
We came very close to war with France. John Adams resisted and eventually won a treaty with Revolutionary France.
Sorry for the history lesson, fellow bloggers, but WS loves to pump up the French.
Amazing
Obama goes to Europe during an American Presidential campaign.
Obama praises “world trade” in Europe, though Obama has often resited trade agreements. In fact, Columbia desperately needs a trade agreement with the United States, as Columbia fights the drug cartels and the trouble making Hugo Chavez, in Venezuela. The Dems resist any real trade deal with a vital ally, Colombia, for purely political reasons.
Then, WS, on this Blog, gripes about “foreigners buying up American Companies” — and others scold someone for using the word “Kraut”? By the way, I know some Germans, lots of Germans in Sedgwick County. They call each other Kraut sometimes!
Hypocrites
Obama does NOTHING controversial.
Vote “present” frequently.
Miss lots of votes.
Never take a stand.
Obama is a flip flopping worm with no back bone.
If a man stands for nothing, there is no reason to stand against him with a protest sign.
What exactly would the protest be about?
Funny how this didn’t make it into the opening blog topic: Eagle-Beacon Media Bias?
Perish the thought.
“Senator Barack Obama emerged as Europe’s favourite candidate for America’s presidency today when a poll conducted for Telegraph.co.uk gave him 52 per cent support across five of the world’s richest nations, including Britain.”
“Obama is a flip flopping worm with no back bone.”
That would be Agnatha, a paraphyletic superclass of jawless fish in the phylum Chordata, subphylum Vertebrata. Although they are in the subphylum Vertebrata, hagfish technically do not have vertebrae.
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fleettwood
Posted July 24, 2008 at 5:35 pm | Permalink
Try to:
Humbug. Kumbaya.
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Obviously, fleetwood has never “tried to” do much of anything, and it’s pretty obvious for his posts.
“Obviously, fleetwood has never “tried to” do much of anything, and it’s pretty obvious for his posts.”
Is that it?
“Obama might be the man to make that happen, or at least try to.”
Yeah, or at least try to.
VOTE FOR OBAMA, HE’LL TRY TO.
Four score and twenty years ago, our forefathers tried to bring forth upon this continent.
We have nothing to fear except trying to not to fear.
We try to hold these truths to be self evident.
How stupidly disconnected from reality can we be to believe that foreign opinion of our presidential candidates is irrelevant?
One can criticize it of course (depending on the country, reaction, or the reasons for it), but it’s asinine in 2008 to believe that we are somehow hermetically sealed off from the rest of the world. Or can be.
When Donald Rumsfeld gave the finger to “Old Europe” that hurt America in ways that we are still feeling today. Pissing on your allies is not a good way to win friends and influence people.
Think about it.
1992 campaign promise:
“Bill Clinton will cut taxes for the middle class and make the rich pay their fair share.”
From the NY Times:
“Remember the middle-class tax cut? An early and central feature of Gov. Bill Clinton’s Presidential campaign, the idea seems on its way to dying an inconspicuous death.”
Oh, well. He tried.
Oh, well. He tried.
Actually, in his first Oval Office speech, he said he couldn’t do it. One could speculate how serious he was during the campaign, but at least he didn’t try to spin his reversal as something else.
“Pissing on your allies is not a good way to win friends and influence people.”
The French might like that more than you know.
doree douche
“…but at least he didn’t try to spin his reversal as something else.”
At least he “tried”.
“believe that foreign opinion of our presidential candidates is irrelevant”
Neither foreigners nor former death row inmates can vote in the election.
Their opinions are irrelevant. It might make you feel all “warm and fuzzy” that others see our first black and charismatic presidential candidate as a positive. But all millions of them cannot fill out one ballot.
Further, if you think about it you will have to ask yourself what these foreigners are really coming to see: A one half term senator with zip experience, who speaks about lofty ideas like “hope” and “change”.
You should come full circle to realize the truth: “Hey let’s go see the first black man running for US President.”
Fleet, take your dumb semantic argument up with the original poster. I don’t care.
Clinton didn’t “try” at all–he saw it as impossible from the moment he took office. Whether he ever intended to do it is subject to debate.
Their opinions are irrelevant.
Remember that the next time you travel overseas.
Remarkable how wha
. .t should be an uncontroversial observation gets so much resistance.
News flash: People in Europe vote, too. And what happens here affects them, just as the EU affects us.
Duh.
“Clinton didn’t “try” at all”
I think we have a BINGO!
And as much as I would like to embrace the comforts of American idiocy, I care about who gets elected in Europe!
And it matters.
“…just as the EU affects us.”
Like a gnat on my ass?
It should be noted that the majority of Israelis would prefer McCain.
So Rage, what exactly is Obama going to do for the citizens of Europe?
And then, please tell me how having the citizens of Europe like our president, will directly affect my life here?
What exactly is the love affair with Obama in Europe going to do for American Citizens?
I have seen someone indicate that Europe would be more willing to send their men and women to die in another foreign country for the popular American president. But I am not putting a lot of weight in that one.
Give me some examples Rage. They gonna drop the exchange rate on their Euro for Obama?
“People in Europe vote, too”
Now there is an intelligent and deep thought.
But what exactly that has to do with the price of beans in China (or the American election) I don’t know.
Boy, fleetwood is in fine drive by form today.
…but at least he looked up the name.
Rage
Posted July 24, 2008 at 6:38 pm | Permalink
And as much as I would like to embrace the comforts of American idiocy, I care about who gets elected in Europe!
And it matters
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I bet you would look cute in one of those French beret hats.
American Way and other coalition conservatives:
If you think the US can achieve its foreign policy, or for that matter its economic, objectives on its own, you are deluded.
Do you for one moment believe that the leaders of EU countries will support us because the new US president makes them feel “good”?
French Prez, “Oh WE let us support the US in Afghan because we likes senior Obama!” “Let us sell the Americans another Louisana Purchse.”
German Prez, “Heil Obama!” “Let us send our boys to die for him!”
Spanish: “Obama Muey Bueno!” “Vamos to Iraq and Iran for him!” “Lift our trade barriers!” “No questions asked-o.”
Russian Prez: “Let us sell another Alaska to America becauze ve like Obama!”
“but at least he looked up the name.”
I knew them all, back in the day.
“US can achieve its foreign policy, or for that matter its economic, objectives”
Foreign Policy: Bring our boys home. From EU, from Bosnia, Iraq, Afghan, Okinawa Japan, Korea. I don’t need those countries to say yes.
Economic objectives: Stop spending more money than American taxpayer revenue. American citizens stop spending more money than you earn – stop running up credit cards and buying houses and cars you cannot afford. Maybe if US Banks had more US citizen dollars invested, they wouldn’t have to borrow from foreign nations.
There. Did I need EU for any of that?
Agnatha
Posted July 24, 2008 at 6:40 pm | Permalink
It should be noted that the majority of Israelis would prefer McCain.
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Well Obama is working on that one. Didn’t you see his appeasement talk to them? He is for every side of every issue. He has them covered.
What exactly is the love affair with Obama in Europe going to do for American Citizens?
In the short term, not a hell of a lot. I should not at the outset the obvious: my comments have little to do with defending or attacking Obama.
If you think I’m predicting specific developments based on things Obama hasn’t done, well, excuse me: my crystal ball is down. But at least the full-on hostility to the US will be staunched.
I simply assert that it’s worthwhile and relevant that the (justifiable) hostility the US has created in Europe doesn’t exist for this man. McCain would probably be popular too, if he hadn’t insisted on embracing the most internationally unpopular aspects of the Bush presidency.
And before you say it: No, being president isn’t an international popularity contest. But the dangerously childish aggression of Bush will, at least, come to an end.
P.S. People vote –> Leaders act –> Policy is created.
Except in the US, where corporations run the government.
Ever heard of NATO?
Or the Group of 8?
Or the WTO?
I think European opinion is relevant.
Or pommes frites
Or escargot
Or sauerbratten
Or fish and chips
Or paella
nm…
must be supper time…
Ever heard of NATO?
Wish I hadn’t. Costing US taxpayers BILLIONS since it’s creation following WWII. Money that could have fed the poor.
Group of 8? Yep. Now tell me one thing they have done for me? Or you personally?
WTO? Yep, another one we provide BILLIONS to so they can redistribute our wealth everywhere but at home.
Sigh
Perhaps you missed this. It looks like a wash, if you give a hoot about what they think.
“Senator Barack Obama emerged as Europe’s favourite candidate for America’s presidency today when a poll conducted for Telegraph.co.uk gave him 52 per cent support across five of the world’s richest nations, including Britain.”
Now Rage tell me how Obama will change any of those organizations by working with EU? Or a gain for the US, because he is so popular?
Do you think Europe will give up the metric system and convert to the ruler because Obama is president?
Maybe wake up every morning and praise Obama?
Will Paris serve American Toast? Drive on the right (correct) side of the road?
But, but Fleetwood, tha-that’s not what the television media said. The TV said Obama was like 70-80% favored. WTFO?
Now Rage tell me how Obama will change any of those organizations by working with EU? Or a gain for the US, because he is so popular?
Sure: He can negotiate new trade rules that take into account safety and environment standards–a idea that’s very popular in Europe.
But, as I’ve made clear upthread, even a McCain presidency would signal improved relations with Europe. There’s nowhere to go but up.
Even a McCain presidency would improve relations with Europe; there’s nowhere to go but up.
But I’m seriously amused by those who seem to think that European opinion doesn’t matter. I suspect this incredibly dumb argument would not be made if we were talking about a different candidate.
“Sure: He can negotiate new trade rules that take into account safety and environment standards–a idea that’s very popular in Europe.”
Sure: He can tell Europe what to do. Genius!
Hmmm… interesting. The MSM failed to mention the big free rock concert with several bands before his speech in Germany. Imagine that! BTW, I would have gone for the concert because the group who headlined the concert seems to be pretty good.
copy and paste this link to see/read the real story: tinyurl.com/6nuoad
“copy and paste this link to see/read the real story”
The sheep are not interested in the truth. They want to be led. Take perfect photo – show Obama not just as a political leader – but as a saint, worshipped by the crowd.
Impressions count. Not substance.
perfect.
good eye nunya,
From Newsbusters:
Obama Crowd Drawn by Rock Bands
Remember back in May when media gushed and fawned over a huge crowd in Portland, Oregon — supposedly gathered to hear the words of Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama — but chose not to report the free concert given before his speech?
Well, it has been learned that before the presumptive Democrat nominee spoke to a crowd in Berlin Thursday, two popular German acts — reggae artist Patrice and rock band Reamonn — entertained the gathering audience.
Will media report this tonight, or just gush and fawn over the huge crowd again?
While you ponder, here’s what was reported by Spiegel Online moments ago (h/t Hot Air and Gateway):
++ Pop Concert for Obama Fans ++
6:33 p.m.: The tens of thousands of Obama fans are being entertained as they await the senator. The reggae musician Patrice kicked things off, followed by the rock band Reamonn.
I’m sure this will be part of ALL media reports concerning this speech…not!
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/07/24/will-media-report-concert-obamas-berlin-speech
You mean Regular, all those EU folks weren’t there because Obama is their hero? They weren’t there for “change” and “hope”?
That’s blasphemy!
I give up: stupid people hear want they want to hear.
I suspect in the future I will be gleefully told that I said “blah blah blah” when I plainly didn’t even imply such a thing.
Morons.
Ya know, man tried to go to the moon and succeeded; the Wright brothers tried to fly, and succeeded; fleettwood tried to be logical, and failed.
Regular you mean Phillip gave us a story that wasn’t complete!! I am shocked. Would never expect something dishonest from the liberal press and certainly not about a prez nominees campaign speech to the Germans.
The good thing is that the American people – with the exception of the libs here – aren’t easily deceived. The big bump he expected in the polls didn’t happen.
Rage is mad now because the MSM got caught in spewing another one of their half-truths.
It is sad when you have to grow up so quickly and realize your heros have feet of clay. So sad!
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Regular
Posted July 24, 2008 at 7:37 pm | Permalink
good eye nunya,
From Newsbusters:
Obama Crowd Drawn by Rock Bands
Remember back in May when media gushed and fawned over a huge crowd in Portland, Oregon — supposedly gathered to hear the words of Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama — but chose not to report the free concert given before his speech?
Well, it has been learned that before the presumptive Democrat nominee spoke to a crowd in Berlin Thursday, two popular German acts — reggae artist Patrice and rock band Reamonn — entertained the gathering audience.
Will media report this tonight, or just gush and fawn over the huge crowd again?
While you ponder, here’s what was reported by Spiegel Online moments ago (h/t Hot Air and Gateway):
++ Pop Concert for Obama Fans ++
6:33 p.m.: The tens of thousands of Obama fans are being entertained as they await the senator. The reggae musician Patrice kicked things off, followed by the rock band Reamonn.
I’m sure this will be part of ALL media reports concerning this speech…not!
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/07/24/will-media-report-concert-obamas-berlin-speech
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That might have some credibility IF they all left after the concert, and BEFORE Obama spoke. Obviously, they didn’t. So, reg, WTF is your point?
Is it just me, or do the republican bloggers here seem to be getting dumber and dumber with every post they put up.
I also feel it was pretty chickshirt of him to ignore the soldiers who are recovering at the US Hospital in Germany as well as the soldiers stationed there. Instead he goes back to the hotel and works out in the gym. Was he campaigning for the Europeans or for the Americans there in Germany?
But then again, I’m sure hanging out with the soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan was only for the political points to make him look like he could be a ‘warrior leader’.
Oh BTW, has anyone noticed the photos of the tail of his plane lately? No more stylized waving flag, just a big “fancy O” symbol.
Here is a picture of it from the liberal website “Huffington Post” Just copy and paste the link tinyurl.com/63qslm Here is what it looked like before it was made over tinyurl.com/6nr8bv
JMWalker
Posted July 24, 2008 at 7:52 pm
That might have some credibility IF they all left after the concert, and BEFORE Obama spoke. Obviously, they didn’t. So, reg, WTF is your point?
Is it just me, or do the republican bloggers here seem to be getting dumber and dumber with every post they put up.
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You’ve never been to an European stadium event have you?
The Polizei and security guards maintain the requirement to keep all people at the event until the event is finished.
The only dumb and dumber appear to be the gullible Libs.
I got your message Rage,
“But, as I’ve made clear upthread, even a McCain presidency would signal improved relations with Europe. There’s nowhere to go but up.”
I even agree with it.
But the content was muddied by the resonating applause for Obama in the presentation.
nunya123 are you saying Obama could be less than sincere in his support of the troops? For shame..
Well this was probably his day to be against them. You know he has both sides of every issue and today didn’t belong to American voters disguised as hospitalized American soldiers.
Okie-doke, AW.
J M Walker to know why they stayed for his speech I would need to know what came AFTER he left.
“what came AFTER he left.”
Aren’t there beer gardens nearby? Germans love their beer too. Could it be free beer?
There was music, lots of food, drink, dope, and women… basically it was just one big party, why would they leave? They sure didn’t sound that enthusiastic about him and I didn’t read about anyone passing out listening to the great “Obama” speak to them.
Also there wasn’t much said about him NOT being allowed (by the Germans) to speak at the Brandenburg Gate like he said he was going to do. I imagine most people believe he did make his speech there because the lack of that part (along with the concert) making it in the stories.
I also noticed in a couple European papers the German’s kept protesters out of the area during his speech. Would they have done that for anyone else?
BTW, wasn’t he embarrassed (or is it embarrassing us) because he couldn’t speak a foreign language?
On July 11, 2008, he made the following statement in a Town Hall meeting in Georgia:
At town hall meeting in Powder Spring, Georgia on Tuesday, Obama said, “It’s embarrassing when Europeans come over here, they all speak English, they speak French, they speak German. And then we go over to Europe and all we can say is merci beaucoup, right?”
Again, is there some reason we should let the Europeans decide on who are President should be? Why should we care what they think? Do you think we could ever depend on them to protect us? To help us financially? To help us in any kind of disaster like we do them? How about the UN doing any of that? No way at all.
Besides Isn’t it enough the MSM working hard at getting him elected for us enough anyway?
That wonderful speech has the righties’ pantyhose all tangled up.
okobserver
Posted July 24, 2008 at 7:57 pm | Permalink
J M Walker to know why they stayed for his speech I would need to know what came AFTER he left.
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My guess is the buses didn’t show up to give them a ride home and the cops didn’t chase them off until after Obama left.
At town hall meeting in Powder Spring, Georgia on Tuesday, Obama said, “It’s embarrassing when Europeans come over here, they all speak English, they speak French, they speak German. And then we go over to Europe and all we can say is merci beaucoup, right?
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Obama should speak for himself. I’m not fluent in German or French, but know enough to order from a menu, ask directions, ask about items for purchase and generally casual conversation.
Perhaps if Osama Obama had more experience with real Americans, he would know better than to make a statement like that.
“Ya know, man tried to go to the moon and succeeded; the Wright brothers tried to fly, and succeeded; fleettwood tried to be logical, and failed.”
I don’t think you get it. You people think “trying” is the same as doing. You think you get the same points. No deal.
“We tried to stop poverty by giving away money to poor people.” FAIL!
“We tried to stop crime by not allowing good citizens to have a gun.” FAIL!
“We tried to stop terrorism by making it a law enforcement problem.” FAIL!
I could go on.
Tryin’ ain’t doin’.
Four score and twenty years ago, our forefathers tried to bring forth upon this continent.
Fleettwood, try “Four score and SEVEN years ago our FATHERS brought forth on this continent…”
I have a photo I took of that 8 years ago at the Lincoln Memorial in front of me as I type.
I believe a “score” IS 20 years.
Your anger is showing, fleetie, and it isn’t helping your case. Your ranting is beginning to sound, well, unhinged would be a good word. You might want to pay attention to the rest of that quote above, if you can find it and if you can understand it.
Fleet, it is impossible to make any sense of your moronic posts. You are indeed clueless. My suggestion is never try anything, as that seems to be your bread and butter argument.
reg, I have been to concerts both here and in Europe. You are wrong. But keep trying to find reasons why the people stayed for Obama’s speech. The real reason might just be they wanted to.
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JMWalker
Posted July 24, 2008 at 8:24 pm | Permalink
Fleet, it is impossible to make any sense of your moronic posts. You are indeed clueless. My suggestion is never try anything, as that seems to be your bread and butter argument.
reg, I have been to concerts both here and in Europe. You are wrong. But keep trying to find reasons why the people stayed for Obama’s speech. The real reason might just be they wanted to.
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Making wild assumptions again eh?
Europeans take crowd control very seriously after several ‘crushing incidents’ and ‘protests’ affected these types of events.
One just does not get up and leave when you want to. In fact, you can get arrested for ‘disrupting the peace’ if you start walking on too many feet and tripping over legs trying to make your way to an exit.
They must have kept protestors out for their own safety!
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Phantom
Posted July 24, 2008 at 8:43 pm | Permalink
They must have kept protestors out for their own safety!
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Most likely.
Europeans at times can be unreasonable hotheads and will start a fist fight at the drop of a hat.
I seen a full blown knock-down-drag-out at a Wurst Fest in Germany just because some guy pointed a finger to his head (indicating that someone is crazy -which btw you can be sued for.)
It involved about 20 people and was some vicious punches and kicks thrown.
Next thing you know, the bloggers here on the right will have everyone believe there WAS a riot.
Everyone’s imagination is getting carried away. Use some common sense. IF you have any.
Here’s some good photos of the fun in Berlin.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7523892.stm
When the hell is Obama going to perform LIVE in front of “tens of thousands” of US American citizens?
The SOB doesn’t give a shi- about those people in the USA.
All he wants is the media buzz and fame of foreign lands.
It has gone to his head. He has forgotten where he came from.
Traitor.
Whew. The Wingnut stink of desperation is as strong as the Wingnut potshots are weak. Y’all really are off your game.
Among the stupidest comments–and there were many–was this one from outlander:
“Europe doesn’t have clue about our issues. They simply want someone who agrees with them.”
Really, outlander? Ever talked American politics with a European? Or, for that matter, with Chinese folks from Hong Kong and Malaysia, as I had occasion to over the last couple of weeks? They know our issues pretty damn well, thanks–at least as well as a majority of our indoctrinated and bullied electorate does. More to the point, they, too, have a vested interest in the outcome of the U.S. Presidential election, but no right to cast THEIR vote. It’s a good exercise of “soft power”–something you Repukes, with your anxieties over “hardness” can’t be bothered with–to address the countries and peoples of the world as if they views DO matter. It’s called “moral authority,” and is precisely what the U.S. has surrendered under a Republican regime that trashes the rule of law in favor of state terrorism, torture, and murder. And more to the point, their views DO matter, because they OWN OUR FRIGGING ECONOMY.
And then there’s fleetwood, whose shallow economic theology crowns the U.S. because of our GDP. Honestly. Is there a phonier measure of the total picture than the GDP?
“The national accounts leave out a crucial dimension of the economy–the part that exists outside the realm of monetary exchange. This segment includes both the ecosystem and the social system–the life-supporting functions of the oceans and atmosphere, for example, and work within families and communities that is not done for money. So when the monetized economy displaces these elements–as when both parents have to work, or when forest clearing eliminates the cleansing function of trees–the losses are not subtracted against the market gain.
As a result, the national accounts include only the slice of economic reality that falls within the bandwidth that economists are able to grasp–recorded expenditures of money.”
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2008/06/0082042
On the other hand, the shallowness of GDP is precisely what attracts fleetwood so powerfully, and his myopic focus on “recorded expenditures of money” as the sole metric blinds him completely to how screwed Americans are after eight years during which the Bush Administration has laid waste to American society and to the world.
Obama is going to be our next President. You Wingnuts know it damn good and well, and there’s nothing to you or your second-rate George Bush impersonator of a candidate can do to stop it. The citizens of this country know that you’re completely and utterly full of sh*t, and they hate your views. Hate them. As the good little fascists you are, you Republicans are headed straight for your own Stalingrad. And you have only yourselves to blame.
We Americans want to regain control of our economic and political lives after eight years of a sustained assault on the American Constitution and Middle Class by the Republican Party. You Repukes, with your bankrupt, authoritarian scheme, have been unmasked as the unprincipled and values-bereft followers you are.
But by all means, continue shouting into the wind and lying through your teeth about your own record, and keep trying to use moronic racist attacks against Barack Obama: it helps to discredit you all the more.
Oh, and KSGolfnut? Now that the weather is so unbearably hot and the young dudes are wearing less clothing, we all hope you’re standing strong with your “decision” to be heterosexual. Keep the faith, man!
Damn that Obama to hell. Saying he’s a ‘Citizen of the World’! What a globalist sell out. Oh, wait a minute, that was Saint Ronnie’s opening line at his U.N. address!
Rush makes his followers look like drooling ditto heads again.
Just don’t get caught in a soccer stadium match.
Hearing Obama speak made me proud to be represented by a man with a brain. George Bush is a filthy criminal and deserves the ultimate punishment – an interview with Bruno!
Kind of nice not to have to cringe every time your Rep. opens his mouth!
Per usual, CF’s pleonastic rant offers the same old “HATE BUSH, HATE BUSH” that the democrat party has preached since 2000.
Redundant beyond all measure. Nothing new.
Europe loves Obama’s Global Povert Act.
$68 BILLION from the US to go to foreign countries!
Yippppeeeee!
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/c110query.html (Look-up S 2433 Introduced by OBAMA)
The Global Poverty Acts calls mandates “the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal”.
http://www.un.org/millenniumgoals/goals.html (UN Milleninium Goals)
Obama is running for the President of the World.
Watch, when Rush is confronted with that fact about Reagan, he’ll say ” I knew that, that’s why I was so incensed, stealing a line from “The Great One”.
Did you hear the German crowd cheer Obama?
Obama said, “Roses are red, violets are blue!”
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!
Either they had too much beer to drink or they were mocking him, or both.
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MaxGrobnik
Posted July 24, 2008 at 9:49 pm | Permalink
Europe loves Obama’s Global Povert Act.
$68 BILLION from the US to go to foreign countries!
Yippppeeeee!
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/c110query.html (Look-up S 2433 Introduced by OBAMA)
The Global Poverty Acts calls mandates “the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal”.
http://www.un.org/millenniumgoals/goals.html (UN Milleninium Goals)
Obama is running for the President of the World.
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Yeah, no doubt it will be ran like the U.N. ‘feed the world’ campaigns.
That is, where the War Lords and corrupt foreign politicians hold the funds/supplies as leverage over their own people to keep them oppressed.
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Here is the future Obama and the Dems have in store for us with their plan of appeasement and not seeking out our own energy supply.
And Europe couldn’t care less what life becomes in the U.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDXTgfDJP3I &eurl=http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30601_NozzleRage
Whoa-ho! The would-be, he-man, gender-chooser deigns to respond to my post; or to non-respond, since my specifics seem able only to elicit his generalities. But no matter.
KSGolfnut, my responses to George Bush were much more nuanced and specific than your generic dismissal of them as “hate.” Whether or not there is anything “new” in my criticisms is open to debate, But there surely were many specifics contained in them. That you feel no need to address them testifies to your defensiveness and intellectual vapidity.
You tend to do what you’re told, KSGolfnut. If Rush Limbaugh tells you that sexual orientation is a “choice,” you are helpless to do anything but witlessly repeat it. And if Rush Limbaugh issues blanket dismissals of specific criticiss by Democrats of Republicans as “hate,” you’re helpless to do anything but follow his lead.
If my “pleonastic rant” counts as overperformance, KSGolfnut, I guess we know where that leaves YOU, with your manifest argumentative impotence.
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Boxlock
Posted July 24, 2008 at 9:54 pm | Permalink
Here is the future Obama and the Dems have in store for us with their plan of appeasement and not seeking out our own energy supply.
And Europe couldn’t care less what life becomes in the U.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDXTgfDJP3I &eurl=http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30601_NozzleRage
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lmao!
hilarious!
thanks for sharing. :D
Max Grobnik,
As opposed to the dictatorship that currently occupies the White House.
“Really, outlander? Ever talked American politics with a European? Or, for that matter, with Chinese folks from Hong Kong and Malaysia, as I had occasion to over the last couple of weeks? They know our issues pretty damn well, thanks–at least as well as a majority of our indoctrinated and bullied electorate does”
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Hi CF. Welcome back. Brought some baloney back with you I see.
Excerpts of Obama’s Speech in Germany (Translations in Parenthesis)
Thursday, July 24, 2008
Full text of Obama speech
I come to Berlin as so many of my countrymen have come before. Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world. (Bullcrap – he’s there as a candidate. Liar.)
I know that I don’t look like the Americans who’ve previously spoken in this great city. (Guess what, I’M BLACK!!! Obama sells himself with the RACE Card Again!) The journey that led me here is improbable. My mother was born in the heartland of America, but my father grew up herding goats in Kenya. His father my grandfather was a cook, a domestic servant to the British. (Daddy was sorta like a SLAVE. See, I’m black enough and have Slave ancestors!)
At the height of the Cold War, my father decided, like so many others in the forgotten corners of the world, that his yearning his dream required the freedom and opportunity promised by the West. And so he wrote letter after letter to universities all across America until somebody, somewhere answered his prayer for a better life. (Cause he couldn’t do anything on his own. We all need Government’s help!)
That is why I’m here. And you are here because you too know that yearning. (I yearn for POWER!) This city, of all cities, knows the dream of freedom. And you know that the only reason we stand here tonight is because men and women from both of our nations came together to work, and struggle, and sacrifice for that better life. (Yeah, the US & Germany really came together in 1945, didn’t they? German Nazis fighting for Freedom!)
Ours is a partnership that truly began sixty years ago this summer, on the day when the first American plane touched down at Templehof. (No, it didn’t begin in 1948. It began in 1941 when we declared war on the Nazi’s.)
On that day, much of this continent still lay in ruin. The rubble of this city had yet to be built into a wall. The Soviet shadow had swept across Eastern Europe, while in the West, America, Britain, and France took stock of their losses, and pondered how the world might be remade. (Yes, Obama is here to remake the world again, and in his image! Obama and his Kingdom on Earth!)
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/24/full-text-obama-speech/
outlander,
Nothing to offer but ad hominems, I see. Pretty much what we’ve come to expect when you don’t have any arguments.
“but it’s asinine in 2008 to believe that we are somehow hermetically sealed off from the rest of the world. Or can be.”
Rage, how odd that when Saddam was torturing innocent men, women and children you wanted America to keep to herself and just allow these atrocities to go on.
Now when it comes to “America’s image” you no longer want to seal yourself from the world.
What’s more important, a country’s image or the people’s lives? I believe it is the lives of it’s citizens but people like you believe it is an image. How pathetic that life has been so cheapened. That’s another thing, you say you want out of the war because it is killing people but you didn’t mind it when they were being killed by their leader.
Excerpts of Obama’s Speech in Germany (Translations in Parenthesis)
This is where the two sides met. And on the twenty-fourth of June, 1948, the Communists chose to blockade the western part of the city. They cut off food and supplies to more than two million Germans in an effort to extinguish the last flame of freedom in Berlin.
The size of our forces was no match for the much larger Soviet Army. And yet retreat would have allowed Communism to march across Europe. Where the last war had ended, another World War could have easily begun. All that stood in the way was Berlin.
And that’s when the airlift began when the largest and most unlikely rescue in history brought food and hope to the people of this city. (But, we should not have declared war on Germany. Germany did not attack us. Just like Iraq, we had no business being in Germany.)
The odds were stacked against success. In the winter, a heavy fog filled the sky above, and many planes were forced to turn back without dropping off the needed supplies. The streets where we stand were filled with hungry families who had no comfort from the cold. (Barf – another Knute Rockne story)
But in the darkest hours, the people of Berlin kept the flame of hope burning. The people of Berlin refused to give up. And on one fall day, hundreds of thousands of Berliners came here, to the Tiergarten, and heard the city’s mayor implore the world not to give up on freedom. “There is only one possibility,” he said. “For us to stand together united until this battle is wonThe people of Berlin have spoken. We have done our duty, and we will keep on doing our duty. People of the world: now do your dutyPeople of the world, look at Berlin!” (I thought the only way out was to Withdraw all forces?)
People of the world look at Berlin! (The World LOOKED, America took ACTION.)
Look at Berlin, where Germans and Americans learned to work together and trust each other less than three years after facing each other on the field of battle.
Look at Berlin, where the determination of a people met the generosity of the Marshall Plan and created a German miracle; where a victory over tyranny gave rise to NATO, the greatest alliance ever formed to defend our common security. (Yeah! We need another Marshall Plan – Paid for courtesy US taxpayers.)
Look at Berlin, where the bullet holes in the buildings and the somber stones and pillars near the Brandenburg Gate insist that we never forget our common humanity.
People of the world look at Berlin, where a wall came down, a continent came together, and history proved that there is no challenge too great for a world that stands as one.
Sixty years after the airlift, we are called upon again. History has led us to a new crossroad, with new promise and new peril. When you, the German people, tore down that wall (UMM, the USA stood strong and firm against the Soviet Union. Germany could not tear down that wall if the US was not standing behind them with the greatest military in the world. Diplomacy worked when 20,000 Nukes were aimed at Red Square.) a wall that divided East and West; freedom and tyranny; fear and hope walls came tumbling down around the world. From Kiev to Cape Town, prison camps were closed, and the doors of democracy were opened. Markets opened too, and the spread of information and technology reduced barriers to opportunity and prosperity.
While the 20th century taught us that we share a common destiny, the 21st has revealed a world more intertwined than at any time in human history. (Common Socialist Destiny)
Some comments CF, are too absurd to waste time refuting.
How long did it take the U.S. to do anything about Hitler’s attrocities to the Jews, the infirm, the Roma?
How many Cambodians died at the hands of Pol Pot before anything was done?
How about Stalin?
We’re talking MILLIONS in all cases.
Sorry, just wondering…
Excerpts of Obama’s Speech in Germany (Translations in Parenthesis)
The fall of the Berlin Wall brought new hope. (HOPE!) But that very closeness has given rise to new dangers dangers that cannot be contained within the borders of a country or by the distance of an ocean.
The terrorists of September 11th plotted in Hamburg and trained in Kandahar and Karachi before killing thousands from all over the globe on American soil.
As we speak, cars in Boston and factories in Beijing are melting the ice caps in the Arctic, shrinking coastlines in the Atlantic (LIE! Is NYC underwater yet?) , and bringing drought to farms from Kansas to Kenya.
Poorly secured nuclear material in the former Soviet Union, or secrets from a scientist in Pakistan could help build a bomb that detonates in Paris. The poppies in Afghanistan become the heroin in Berlin. The poverty and violence in Somalia breeds the terror of tomorrow. The genocide in Darfur shames the conscience of us all.
In this new world, such dangerous currents have swept along faster than our efforts to contain them. That is why we cannot afford to be divided. No one nation, no matter how large or powerful, can defeat such challenges alone. None of us can deny these threats, or escape responsibility in meeting them. Yet, in the absence of Soviet tanks and a terrible wall, it has become easy to forget this truth. And if we’re honest with each other, we know that sometimes, on both sides of the Atlantic, we have drifted apart, and forgotten our shared destiny. (Shared – ie Socialist Destiny)
(Next Obama blames America for the World’s problems.)
In Europe, the view that America is part of what has gone wrong in our world, rather than a force to help make it right, has become all too common. In America, there are voices that deride and deny the importance of Europe’s role in our security and our future. Both views miss the truth that Europeans today are bearing new burdens and taking more responsibility in critical parts of the world; and that just as American bases built in the last century still help to defend the security of this continent, so does our country still sacrifice greatly for freedom around the globe.
Yes, there have been differences between America and Europe. No doubt, there will be differences in the future. But the burdens of global citizenship continue to bind us together. A change of leadership in Washington will not lift this burden. In this new century, Americans and Europeans alike will be required to do more not less. (Pay more taxes!) Partnership and cooperation among nations is not a choice; it is the one way, the only way, to protect our common security and advance our common humanity. (Great Global Socialist Partnership! Like the Global Poverty Act!)
Obama’s ENTIRE speech is nothing but FLUFF!
Not a shread of anything concrete! Not one specific detail presented at all!
But he sounds nice. And a lot of drunken German’s applauded the free beer.
I believe it is the lives of it’s citizens but people like you believe it is an image.
Not only is our image tainted by the current administration, but our lives are, too.
Is it Germany where Dick Cheney dare not go, fearing he’ll be arrested?
Apparently one Republican understood, and he sure wasn’t my favorite. (bold emphasis by me)
“When the strongest nation in the world can be tied up for … years in a war … with no end in sight, when the richest nation in the world can’t manage its own economy, when the nation with the greatest tradition of the rule of law is plagued by unprecedented lawlessness, … and when the President of the United States cannot travel abroad or to any major city at home without fear of a hostile demonstration – then it’s time for new leadership for the United States of America.”
– Richard Nixon, 1968
Yeah, you’re right. Even Nixon was wrong about caring about what the world thinks.
TheBorgHunter,
Your’s is an obvious observation to many of us and understood completely, but also completely lost by many as well. Thank you for saying it so well.
Many of the critics of the U.S. are exactly as you point out, more concerned with image than substance.
The emphasis and interest on Obama’s ridiculous overseas trip, acting as if President already, is a prime example. What a jerk, more interested in his own election than the future of the U.S.
Max, pray tell what you wanted Obama to say.
Sure, Boxlock, but if it had been McCain traveling and making speeches, all would be right with the world, right? ;)
Aww, good thing they are so excited about McCain they are not wasting time bashing Senator Obama.
Exactly my point Predestined. Why do we have to wait so long when we see such atrocities. We have no Prime Directive. We have the Constitution of the United States. And in it, it states that those of us who have the ability should help those in need. America has the ability. We are one of the richest nations, there is no reason to turn our heads and close our eyes and pretend like we are an island only beholding to ourselves. We have a duty and a responsibility if we truly do believe in our Constitution.
Predestined,
I am still waiting for Obama and his handlers to say anything of substance.
He gives out nothing but macro-platitudes, vapor, mist, rainbows of glorious end results, with not a hint of detail of how to get there.
Why, because he has no idea of how, nor does he care, he just wants the office.
If you ask me?
And of course no one did.
This guy likes large, loving crowds just a bit too much.
Yes, he does.
Here ya go. Not even a year’s worth of why the world believes there’s a moron in the WH. And, BTW, it isn’t the American people others have a problem with, it’s our government, namely the current administration aka BushCo.
“Goodbye from the world’s biggest polluter.” –George W. Bush, in parting words to British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and French President Nicolas Sarkozy at his final G-8 Summit, punching the air and grinning widely as the two leaders looked on in shock, Rusutsu, Japan, July 10, 2008
“Amigo! Amigo!” –George W. Bush, calling out to Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi in Spanish at the G-8 Summit, Rusutsu, Japan, July 10, 2008
“I want to tell you how proud I am to be the President of a nation that — in which there’s a lot of Philippine-Americans. They love America and they love their heritage. And I reminded the President that I am reminded of the great talent of the — of our Philippine-Americans when I eat dinner at the White House.” –George W. Bush, referring to White House chef Cristeta Comerford while meeting with Filipino President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, Washington, D.C., June 24, 2008 (Watch video clip)
“Your eminence, you’re looking good.” –George W. Bush to Pope Benedict XVI, using the title for Catholic cardinals, rather than addressing him as “your holiness,” Rome, June 13, 2008
“The German asparagus are fabulous.” –George W. Bush, Meseberg, Germany, June 11, 2008
“We’ve got a lot of relations with countries in our neighborhood.” –George W. Bush, Kranj, Slovenia, June 10, 2008
“Thank you, your Holiness. Awesome speech.” –George W. Bush, to Pope Benedict, Washington, D.C., April 15, 2008 (Watch video clip)
“A lot of times in politics you have people look you in the eye and tell you what’s not on their mind.” –George W. Bush, Sochi, Russia, April 6, 2008
“Afghanistan is the most daring and ambition mission in the history of NATO.” –George W. Bush, Bucharest, Romania, April 2, 2008
“I heard somebody say, ‘Where’s (Nelson) Mandela?’ Well, Mandela’s dead. Because Saddam killed all the Mandelas.” –George W. Bush, on the former South African president, who is still very much alive, Washington, D.C., Sept. 20, 2007
“Mr. Prime Minister, thank you for your introduction. Thank you for being such a fine host for the OPEC summit.” –George W. Bush, addressing Australian Prime Minister John Howard at the APEC Summit, Sept. 7, 207
“As John Howard accurately noted when he went to thank the Austrian troops there last year…” –George W. Bush, referring to Australian troops as “Austrian troops,” APEC Business Summit, Sept. 7, 2007
Shall we discuss extemperaneous speech now?
Wonder if it’s true that the media is falling all over themselves to support da O-Man? Check this out:
“Putting Money Where Mouths Are: Media Donations Favor Dems 100-1
By WILLIAM TATE | Posted Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:20 PM PT
The New York Times’ refusal to publish John McCain’s rebuttal to Barack Obama’s Iraq op-ed may be the most glaring example of liberal media bias this journalist has ever seen. But true proof of widespread media bias requires one to follow an old journalism maxim: Follow the money.
Even the Associated Press — no bastion of conservatism — has considered, at least superficially, the media’s favoritism for Barack Obama. It’s time to revisit media bias.
True to form, journalists are defending their bias by saying that one candidate, Obama, is more newsworthy than the other. In other words, there is no media bias. It is we, the hoi polloi, who reveal our bias by questioning the neutrality of these learned professionals in their ivory-towered newsrooms.
Big Media applies this rationalization to every argument used to point out bias. “It’s not a result of bias,” they say. “It’s a matter of news judgment.”
And, like the man who knows his wallet was pickpocketed but can’t prove it, the public is left to futilely rage against the injustice of it all.
The “newsworthy” argument can be applied to every metric — one-sided imbalances in airtime, story placement, column inches, number of stories, etc. — save one.
An analysis of federal records shows that the amount of money journalists contributed so far this election cycle favors Democrats by a 15:1 ratio over Republicans, with $225,563 going to Democrats, only $16,298 to Republicans .
Two-hundred thirty-five journalists donated to Democrats, just 20 gave to Republicans — a margin greater than 10-to-1. An even greater disparity, 20-to-1, exists between the number of journalists who donated to Barack Obama and John McCain.
The contributions add up to $315,533 to Democrats and $22,656 to Republicans — most of that to Ron Paul, who was supported by many liberals as a stalking horse to John McCain, a la Rush Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos with Hillary and Obama.
What is truly remarkable about the list is that, discounting contributions to Paul and Rudy Giuliani, who was a favorite son for many folks in the media, the totals look like this: $315,533 to Democrats, $3,150 to Republicans (four individuals who donated to McCain).
Let me repeat: $315,533 to Democrats, $3,150 to Republicans — a ratio of 100-to-1. No bias there.”
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=301702713742569
Boxlock,
Other than “Bomb, bomb, bomb. Bomb, bomb Iran”, what has McCain had to say? And why must he be edited on TV?
The contributions add up to $315,533 to Democrats and $22,656 to Republicans — most of that to Ron Paul, who was supported by many liberals as a stalking horse to John McCain, a la Rush Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos with Hillary and Obama.
I’d say it’s rather telling, in that BushCo has totally screwed up pretty much everything, and few people trust a clone from the same party. But that’s my take, and I’m sure you can twist it to suit anything you want to.
Operation Chaos with Hillary and Obama
That’s what you get for trying to manipulate people. You didn’t want Hillary and thought Obama would be a cakewalk. Karma’s a bitch.
It means, Easter Bunny, that the media is in the tank for the Democrat candidate even more than usual.
Peace. I’m out.
Predestined
Posted July 24, 2008 at 10:38 pm | Permalink
Max, pray tell what you wanted Obama to say.
Something.
Say a list of 5 specific things he will do with regard to foreign policy if he is elected POTUS.
He can’t do that. He doesn’t know. Doesn’t have a clue!
McCain is soooooooooo interesting!!! I saw him today in front of the cheese. Now THAT is news!
David,
I expect McCain to nod off at any time. I certainly do when I listen to him. But then maybe he doesn’t listen to himself.
No defense for Obama’s German speech of fluff, so attack McCain.
This is Obama’s speech which has been mischaraterized by liars here:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/berlinvideo/
See for yourself…
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA!
I tell ya whut, I’m getting a good belly laugh outa this thread.
Hows that “uniter” thing going for obama?
Looks like just fine on the world stage, but meanwhile, back at home, the divisions seem to be deeper, wider, and growing more so every day. He’s doing a heck of a job brownie thing when it comes to uniting republicans and democrats, conservatives and liberals and christians and non christians.
Seems to me, by the looks of this thread, the general tone of the weblog, the talking head shows and the print articles…
…that the only folks in American politics who are becoming tighter and tighter and more united are the democrat appeasers and the republican enablers in congress!
Who’d a thunk that bush would be able to unite those folks to push his destruction of america plan to fruition?
And they “united” on the bush agenda with a wimper and not even a bang.
Including obama. FISA anyone?
I listened to as much of his speech as I could stand, but I did hear him speak about how walls between allies must come down. Couldnt help but think of the walls between the african american community and the gay community. And the HUGE wall between the evangelical community and the gay community.
So who did obama send to “tear down those (aforementioned) walls between blacks and gays and evangelical gays?
heheheheheheheh. Wait for it…
donnie mcclurkin. You know, the guy who said gays are murdering our children.
If that is an example of obama’s strategy to “tear down those walls”…
I’m buying stock in brick and concrete companies. Those walls are going to go up higher and wider using emissaries like mclurkin to “unite” folks.
Heheheheheh.
Yep. Obama sure is a uniter.
Except when he’s not.
Now I wonder who will be the rock star concert act that will open for obama at coors field when he gives his acceptance speech.
And I did see free beer in BOTH hands of the Germans after obama’s speech.
Free concerts before, and free beer after.
Hell YEAH Ich bin ein berliner (donut)!
There is an inherent problem for a public figure that is loved.
It’s a drug. They want more. The last fix is gone and they want a new one.
Germany is more progressive than America.
But of course, Obama has to win votes (and new love) here.
How will he pander next to the right? Who will he sell out next to woo new fainters?
There IS still the Democratic convention to vet this….phenom.
I’m betting on Obama trying to do what he says plans to do.
My other choice would be what, exactly? McCain,III?
No thank you.
I am sure McCain will be real decent to our various communities. If you think so, I am sure he’d accept your vote.
Goodnight.
BlueJay,
1) I thought that you quit the Democratic party. No?
2) Who said this about Ronald Reagan?
“He could call the Soviet Union the Evil Empire and then negotiate arms-control agreements. He played the balance and the music beautifully.”
I’ve got a question KFG, what does the rest of the gay community say- because most of teh gays I know personally aren’t concerned or don’t know aobut it.
Obama’s successful world tour is the bestest thing in the world that could have happened to John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term). The McBush campaign spent all of last week trying to set up Obama for a gaffe on the international stage. Didn’t happen. Barack was welcomed by troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, was impressive to heads of state, and attracted a crowd of 200,000 Germans (and American service people, and expatriates (like those who work for Mercedes America, BMW America, Volkswagen America, etc…) and he succeeded in convincing our European allies that not every American is the buffoon that is George WMD Bush.
In the meantime, McBush was standing in front of a cheese case re-inventing the history of the “surge,” claiming that Afghanistan and Iraq share a common border (“Shi’ites or Sunis? Which ones are on our side?”), and looking like George Herbert Walker Bush’s older crazy uncle. (What’s with that rumply black suit he’s always wearing — in the middle of summer — and is always buttoned? The old guy looks like Dorf’s dumber big brother!)
Were it not for Barack Obama’s world tour this week, McC*nt would have been dead meat. All the media attention was distracted away from his senility.
There were no Obama gaffes with international leaders. There were no Obama gaffes when he met with the Generals and front-liners of the United States military. There were no burning flags or segregated “protest zones” in Europe as were common when George WMD Bush recently visited Europe.
Americans are better than George WMD Bush.
People in America and all over the world see that in Barack Obama. In Dorf McSame, not so much.
DavidB
Posted July 24, 2008 at 11:06 pm | Permalink
McCain is soooooooooo interesting!!! I saw him today in front of the cheese. Now THAT is news!
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Well, like McCain or not, he was in America campaigning for the votes of Americans, not running around the world campaigning (while playing President) to get the vote of Europeans and Middle Eastern leaders and people to become President of the United States.
Remember how he made his own personalized Presidential Seal a few months back before making a new seal for the tail of his airplane? What is with that?
“Well, like McCain or not, he was in America campaigning for the votes of Americans, not running around the world campaigning (while playing President) to get the vote of Europeans and Middle Eastern leaders and people to become President of the United States.”
Except for the times he went to England, Canada, Columbia and France, then yes, you are correct.
As the renown Chinese Proverb said – “On a journey of a hundred miles, ninety is but half way.” – thank u for the share!
Read the whole thing. What a hoot.
He ventured forth to bring light to the world
The anointed one’s pilgrimage to the Holy Land is a miracle in action – and a blessing to all his faithful followers
And it came to pass, in the eighth year of the reign of the evil Bush the Younger (The Ignorant), when the whole land from the Arabian desert to the shores of the Great Lakes had been laid barren, that a Child appeared in the wilderness.
The Child was blessed in looks and intellect. Scion of a simple family, offspring of a miraculous union, grandson of a typical white person and an African peasant. And yea, as he grew, the Child walked in the path of righteousness, with only the occasional detour into the odd weed and a little blow.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4392846.ece
More doofussy Wingnut “humor” from Heckler. My guess is that the other doofuses will think it’s, like, the funniest thing EVER.
cf
It’s funny stuff. Get over it. Obamassiah’s a joke, get it?
CF
…and it’s from the Times UK, hardly conservative.
If you’ve never planned an event, you can’t know the organization and strategy involved in this week-long tour Obama is doing. He has surrounded himself with some talent. And he is inspirational. Two traits of a true leader! His intelligence, his ability to inspire and get things done in an orderly way only begin to scratch the surface of this man. I’m excited about our future!
Sounds like the Obamanator burnished up his foreign policy credentials, and the Mcsamist are a wee bit jealous that his star outshined their dufus’s. Get Over It.
Listen…you must watch this. It will take about three minutes, but very interesting, entertaining and you might just learn something.
I refrain from comment, you view, your decide.
The Super Tuesday Presidential Prophecy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfyHQ2PjLzk
And another commenting on Barack’s “Change, change, change”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ7b0STJ_9k&feature=related
An interesting story by the London Times on Obama
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4392846.ece
It is true that the Europeans don’t vote for our leadership. However, the global politics of the USA is in dire need of someone like Barack Obama who has the support of the majority of Europeans. President Bush lost that respect and John McCain is not very much favored by them. I don’t think McCain is likable enough to achieve what Obama has. The USA need to be thought of as the good guys like we used to.