With the death of former White House spokesman Tony Snow, conservatism lost one of its most passionate and eloquent advocates. Even before his 17-month tenure on the Bush team, Snow was a familiar spokesman for the movement through his work on Fox News, on the radio and in newspaper columns. Snow’s death on Saturday, at age 53, put his December address to the Wichita Metro Chamber of Commerce in a bittersweet light. Then, Snow already had given 25 speeches since leaving the White House in September and had 50 more scheduled, in a race to earn money to provide for his family should he lose his battle with cancer.
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How truely sad the entire situation is.
God Bless his family in their time of loss.
A genuine good guy and loving family man. He will be missed.
Of all people, Democrat Bob Beckel gave the best tribute to Tony Snow that I have heard, thus far.
Snow went out of his way to help Beckel, when Beckel really needed help, and you could tell that Snow’s help was greatly appreciated.
A very talented, personable man who stepped up to be responsible and forthcoming.
Tony, you’ll be missed greatly.
Back when I was doing talk radio and Tony was hosting Faux News Sunday, we talked every Friday afternoon.
Tony was a traditional Conservative who frequently had to admit the Republic Party had move far to the right of Goldwater and even Reagan.
He admitted to being a political star-fuc#er in Washington, D.C. “To imagine a kid from Kentucky would be paid to show up on national television with people like Newt Gingrich, Ted Kennedy… giants in the government and the world… it’s sometimes overwhelming,” he once said.
We bantered, swapped put-downs and one-upsmanship. One Friday afternoon my producer got word that Tony would be unavailable because of some late-breaking news story. Okay. Stuff happens. But an hour later we got a call from Snow’s people that he wanted to talk with us, and no other local show.
I consider Tony Snow as one of those friends you get who you’ll never meet.
We once got to talking about CONservative water-carriers. He was still trying to portray himself as a “journalist” but mentioned how P.J. O’Rourke shifted from a being a liberal to being a CON “…because the corporate lecture fees are better.”
When he left the White House, he fully admitted he was doing it because he needed to make more than his $167,000 salary as Press Secretary.
I sent an e-mail to the White House press office the day Tony resigned.
About three months later I got an e-mail back from him , quoting my comment, “It doesn’t sound good,” he wrote:
“No, it doesn’t. My Mom died of colon cancer. So it focuses the mind, in Churchill’s word’s.”
I replied that when Winston Churchill said that he was a member of the Liberal Party.
He sent back, simply, a smiley.
That’s the last communication we had.
I guess I thought he was getting better.
MonkeyHawk,
Are those your words or someone elses?
You talked with Tony every Friday afternoon?
Did anyone notice that Dr. Debakey passed away on the same day? The man invented bypass surgery.
Kind of like John Ritter and Johny Cash.
“Nathaniel” –
Yup. Every Friday afternoon.
On KPHN in Kansas City, co-hosting with Mike Shanin.
I think Mike is working for KMBZ now. Anyway, that’s the last I heard.
He was the CON, I was the voice of reason.
Go ahead and call him if you want to. He’ll tell you my real name (it’s not “Monkeyhawk,” in case you’ve wondered), and be sure to ask him about the Ashcroft Interview.
“SolDevVB” offers –
“Did anyone notice that Dr. Debakey passed away on the same day? The man invented bypass surgery.
“Kind of like John Ritter and Johny Cash.”
Yeah. Johnny Cash’s contributions to surgery don’t get any credit in the mainstream press.
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Monkeyhawk
Posted July 14, 2008 at 2:05 pm | Permalink
“Nathaniel” –
Yup. Every Friday afternoon.
On KPHN in Kansas City, co-hosting with Mike Shanin.
I think Mike is working for KMBZ now. Anyway, that’s the last I heard.
He was the CON, I was the voice of reason.
Go ahead and call him if you want to. He’ll tell you my real name (it’s not “Monkeyhawk,” in case you’ve wondered), and be sure to ask him about the Ashcroft Interview.
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Ah yes, the failed Liberal talk show host.
MonkeyHawk,
I am just having trouble with this claim and all the BS you put out about Tiahrt’s sons death.
Something doesn’t smell right.
Johnny Cash’s contributions to surgery
WTF? Are you off your meds again?
“Johnny Cash’s contributions to surgery”
Sure, he shot a man in Reno, then fixed him up.
Well MonkeyHawk, er I mean Joe Meyers.
Is this the Ashcroft interview you are talking about?
During Lewensky-gate, Meyers once asked then Sen. John Ashcroft if it was anybody’s business what a politician’s sex life was like. Ascroft got all high and mighty and said, “Yes! It’s very important!” Then Meyers said, “So tell me about Mrs. Ashcroft. Is she a moaner or a screamer? Does she like it up the butt?”
http://kcbuzzblog.typepad.com/kcbuzzblog/2006/11/agar_leaving.html
How sad his legacy is the Conservative that had it right, and was critical of bush, will forever be linked to the idiot!
Never fear, the right still the Oxy head for a spokesperson.
“Nathaniel” –
So…?
And Ashcroft’s reply was? We were treated to details about Monica’s humidor, surely you’re not suggesting the guy was out of line.
Hahahahahaha! Wish I could ask Ashcrack a question like that.
Now we all can rest very easily. Nathaniel has uncovered the greatest mystery in the blogoshere, which of course was, “who is Monkeyhawk”?
Thanks man.
Nah Pleef, I think Monkey was feeling insignificant and wanted to brag about his 15 minutes.
So all of you on the left be sure to let Monkey know how impressed you are that: 1. He knew Tony Snow (but evidently didn’t learn anything; 2. That he is credited with asking John Ashcroft on air if his wife liked it up the butt.
Classy guy, that MonkeyHawk. I notice he has managed to foul two or three threads today.
<iClassy guy, that MonkeyHawk. I notice he has managed to foul two or three threads today.
Certainly no less classy than you, who santimonously declares it your business if someone else likes it up the butt, or puts their mouth on an officially unapproved body part.
Tell me, Outie, are you completely cool with the current legal marriages performed by the Church of Satan–so long as it’s between a man and a woman? Inquiring minds want to know!
“Certainly no less classy than you, who santimonously declares it your business if someone else likes it up the butt, or puts their mouth on an officially unapproved body part.”
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Really Rage. You just made that up out of thin air. I’ve never written anything like that.
So, I’m calling you on this one. Prove your statement.
Liar.
This should be enough to start:
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outlander
Posted June 2, 2008 at 8:17 am | Permalink
Gay Marriage is not a civil rights issue. It is a subversion of the will of the people.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/06/gay-rights-directives-prompted-by-court-convictions/
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outlander
Posted August 28, 2007 at 7:01 pm | Permalink
The fact is that majority of Americans don’t want gay marriage normalized. They think it is immoral. Whether or not that belief comes from religious belief or elsewhere is of no consequence.
There doesn’t need to be any other reason.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/conservatism-will-miss-snows-eloquence-passion/#comment-383545
Indeed, no reason for denying contracts to people based on their sexual habits other than. . .their sexual habits. You’ve repeatedly stated your opposition is “moral” (do you deny that?) But how there’s a moral basis for denying consenting adults the right to enter into a civil contract. . .well, what is the reasoning, if entirely secular?
And again: May I assume you have no objection to legal Satanic marriage? What is the distinction? And why?
Looks like pure, unapologetic prejudice and poking your nose into other people’s bedrooms to me.
Oops, correction on 2nd link:
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/08/craig-another-g/#comment-195548
So, you couldn’t find anything eh Rage? Being against gay marriage is not; “santimonously declares it your business if someone else likes it up the butt, or puts their mouth on an officially unapproved body part.”
Keep trying.
Liar
Admit it Rage. You won’t find me anywhere saying that homosexuality should be outlawed or criminalized. I don’t care what consenting adults do in their bedrooms. I have always been against gay marriage. Free country.
You just went off half-cocked (no pun intended) and attacked me based on your prejudice of what you think all conservatives believe.
You are usually better than that, my friend.
You won’t find me anywhere saying that homosexuality should be outlawed or criminalized. I don’t care what consenting adults do in their bedrooms. I have always been against gay marriage.
Nice how you rewrote what I actually said into something else.
There is no reason to oppose so-called “gay marriage” other than to punish people for being gay (none!), in civil rather than criminal terms, but it is punishment nonetheless. When you say you “oppose gay marriage,” you admit that it is the business of government to discriminate against loving couples based upon personal disapproval of what they do in their own bedrooms.
What other reason is there? What other reason could there be? You’ve already stated the reason is “moral”–what conceivable immorality is being stopped (or even inhibited) by denying these people the same rights afforded other couples?
Sorry, Outie, you are perfectly free to argue semantics, butI stand by my statement.
Rage
Posted July 14, 2008 at 7:08 pm | Permalink
You won’t find me anywhere saying that homosexuality should be outlawed or criminalized. I don’t care what consenting adults do in their bedrooms. I have always been against gay marriage.
Nice how you rewrote what I actually said into something else.
There is no reason to oppose so-called “gay marriage” other than to punish people for being gay (none!), in civil rather than criminal terms, but it is punishment nonetheless. When you say you “oppose gay marriage,” you admit that it is the business of government to discriminate against loving couples based upon personal disapproval of what they do in their own bedrooms.
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Intellectually, I’m not against gay marriage because I find the argument legally indefensible in accordance with the law.
Morally, and forgive me kfg just being honest, I find the notion absurd and beyond the concept of sacred trust between a man and a woman as set forth by God.
I can live with it, doesn’t mean I have to imbibe the flavor of the month in the latest secularism of humanity.
A point Rage, before I let this go. You accused me of “santimonously declares it your business if someone else likes it up the butt, or puts their mouth on an officially unapproved body part”.
It is not “semantics” to point out that you are flat wrong when you implied that I am out there crusading against homosexuality in general. And while it is true that I have stated my opposition to gay marriage and will always be opposed to it, I am not a crusader in that regard either. You can speculate as to motive or whatever, but you took it too far. Enough said.
With all due respect to anyone who passes on: if they were liars before they died they are still liars once the hullabaloo over their death goes away.
Outlander, just read the Constitution, Bill or Rights, and stick your opposition to others happiness up your arse.
Well good evening and thank you Ralphie. The same fine wishes to you. Your intolerance of folks with opinions that disagree with yours will allow to fit in quite well with the libs here.
Say, do you still have that Red Ryder BB gun? Say hello to Randy for me.
Nathaniel Posted July 14, 2008 at 2:28 pm |
“Well MonkeyHawk, er I mean Joe Meyers.”
Good work Nathaniel.
First I don’t believe the Monkey is telling the truth, I don’t believe he is capable of co-hosting a show unless he was intentionally used as the liberal dummy put there to show the incompetence of the liberal mindset.
But if he actually did co-host it is no wonder the show didn’t last but a short time.
Wonder what the monkey can possibly do now if not intentionally given a paid position as a loser.
what would my mom make of this?
good riddance.
Any day a con dies is a good day.
Please let Brit Hume be next.
“Snow was a familiar spokesman for the movement through his work on Fox News, on the radio and in newspaper columns”
Yup. A shill for the slime of humanity. I hope he suffered.
BlueJay,
Every day that goes by I can almost see you progresively getting more and more mean and vile.
You are only hurting yourself.
Boxlock,
I just don’t believe that someone with MonkeyHawks attitude would have been able to hold a conversation with someone like Tony every Friday.
He is so vile and vulgar about conservatives that I simply don’t think that somenoe of Tony’s character would put up with having a conversation every week with MonkeyHawk.
Especially the crap the MonkeyHawk posted about Tiahrt and his son’s death.
As usual, “Nathaniel” –
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Nor does “Boxlock.”
How strange Nathan.
Since you got back from Iraq, I have sensed the same in you that you project on me.
I welcome it actually.
I don’t want to feel in any way connected or sympathetic to you. We are enemies. YOU do your best every day to destroy me and keep me down. I fight back. I’m comfortable with that.
Time and reality are on my side.
During Lewensky-gate, Meyers once asked then Sen. John Ashcroft if it was anybody’s business what a politician’s sex life was like. Ascroft got all high and mighty and said, “Yes! It’s very important!” Then Meyers said, “So tell me about Mrs. Ashcroft. Is she a moaner or a screamer? Does she like it up the butt?”
We always knew MH was a piece of sh*^. That he gladly owns this tell us only just how low a piece of sh&^ he really is. Go ahead, MH, roll in it. Enjoy. Just please don’t pretend to be a decent human being anymore.
JR, please get help. The hatred you continue to fester and nurture is unhealthy for you, and more important, the son you claim to love. I say claim, because I’m not sure you are capable of same anymore. You enjoy the hate far too much.
BlueJay and Monkeyhawk, two of the most incredibly pathetic losers in life I have ever come in contact with. Both apparently failures in life of stupefying proportions, depressingly so.
BluyJay, I can’t conceive how anyone could get as bitter and hateful as you. Wishing death and suffering on a truly great and kind and courageous person like Tony Snow.
And Monkeyhawk, basically just repulsive and twisted mentally.
Both of you really NEED professional help before you hurt yourselves or worse poison the lives of others.
Hmmm.
“Nathaniel” doesn’t like me.
“GMC70″ doesn’t like me.
“Boxlock” doesn’t like me.
Tony Snow seemed to like talking with me.
I win.
And no one here outside MonkeyHawk who actually spoke with Tony Snow regularly can admit that Tony Snow was obviously a human being and multi-faceted. Is it because some of you are actually (and only) what you show here on a discussion board?
What do you know…
It is Linda sticking up for one of the most vile and vulgar posters on the blog who routinely makes personal attacks.
You’re not going to cry are ya Nathan?
BlueJay,
The thread has not had a post for most of the day and that was the best you could do to add to the discussion?
You must be really bored tonight.
“You want to make every pundit look bad? Then stand tall for what you believe. Don’t be shy. You want to stun the establishment? Then become a mighty force for conservative principles, and tackle the task with confidence and cheer… This may be a time of testing. But it’s not our swan song. Not by a long shot. Instead… this is our moment. This is the time to do what we do best—turn adversity into strength.” —the late Tony Snow, former White House Press Secretary
TONY SNOW’S TESTIMONY
This is a testimony from Tony Snow,
President Bush’s Press Secretary, and his fight with cancer.
Commentator and broadcaster Tony Snow
announced that he had colon cancer in 2005.
Following surgery and chemo-therapy,
Snow joined the Bush Administration in April, 2006, as press secretary.
Unfortunately, on March 23, 2007,
Snow, 51, a husband and father of three,
announced that the cancer had recurred, with tumors found in his abdomen,
leading to surgery in April, followed by more chemotherapy.
Snow went back to work in the White House Briefing Room on May 3,
but has resigned since, ‘for economic reasons,’
and to pursue ‘other interests.’
It needs little intro . . . it speaks for itself.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
‘Blessings arrive in unexpected packages,
- in my case, cancer.
Those of us with potentially fatal diseases – and there are millions in
America today – find ourselves in the odd position of coping
with our mortality while trying to fathom God’s will.
Although it would be the height of presumption to declare with confidence ‘What It All Means,’ Scripture provides powerful hints and consolations.
The first is that we shouldn’t spend too much
time trying to answer the ‘why’ questions:
Why me?
Why must people suffer?
Why can’t someone else get sick?
We can’t answer such things, and the questions themselves
often are designed more to express our anguish than to solicit an answer.
I don’t know why I have cancer, and I don’t much care. It is what it is,
a plain and indisputable fact. Yet even while staring into a mirror
darkly, great and stunning truths began to take shape.
Our maladies define a central feature of our existence:
We are fallen. We are imperfect. Our bodies give out.
But, despite this, – or because of it, – God offers the possibility
of salvation and grace. We don’t know how the narrative of
our lives will end, but we get to choose how to use the interval
between now and the moment we meet our Creator face-to-face.
Second, we need to get past the anxiety. The mere thought
of dying can send adrenaline flooding through your system.
A dizzy, unfocused panic seizes you. Your heart thumps;
your head swims. You think of nothingness and swoon.
You fear partings; you worry about the impact on
family and friends. You fidget and get nowhere.
To regain footing, remember that we were born not into
death, but into life – and that the journey continues
after we have finished our days on this earth.
We accept this on faith, but that faith is nourished by a conviction
that stirs even within many non-believing hearts – an institution
that the gift of life, once given, cannot be taken away.
Those who have been stricken enjoy the special privilege of being able to fight with their might, main, and faith to live fully, richly, exuberantly
- no matter how their days may be numbered.
Third, we can open our eyes and hearts. God relishes surprise.
We want lives of simple, predictable ease, – smooth, even trails
as far as the eye can see, – but God likes to go off-road.
He provokes us with twists and turns. He places us in predicaments
that seem to defy our endurance and comprehension – and yet don’t.
By His love and grace, we persevere. The challenges that make
our hearts leap and stomachs churn invariably strengthen
our faith and grant measures of wisdom and joy
we would not experience otherwise.
‘You Have Been Called’.
Picture yourself in a hospital bed. The fog of anesthesia has
begun to wear away. A doctor stands at your feet, a loved one
holds your hand at the side. ‘It’s cancer,’ the healer announces.
The natural reaction is to turn to God and ask him to serve as a cosmic Santa.
‘Dear God, make it all go away. Make everything simpler.’
But another voice whispers: ‘You have been called.’
Your quandary has drawn you closer to God, closer to those you love,
closer to the issues that matter, – and has dragged into insignificance
the banal concerns that occupy our ‘normal time.’
There’s another kind of response, although usually short-lived, an inexplicable shudder of excitement as if a clarifying moment of
calamity has swept away everything trivial and tiny, and
placed before us the challenge of important questions.
The moment you enter the Valley of the Shadow of Death, things change.
You discover that Christianity is not something doughy, passive, pious,
and soft. Faith may be the substance of things hoped for, the evidence
of things not seen. But it also draws you into a world shorn of
fearful caution. The life of belief teems with thrills, boldness,
danger, shocks, reversals, triumphs, and epiphanies.
Think of Paul, traipsing through the known world and comtemplating trips
to what must have seemed the antipodes ( Spain ), shaking the dust from his sandals, worrying not about the morrow, but only about the moment.
There’s nothing wilder than a life of humble virtue, for it is through selflessness and service that God wrings from our bodies
and spirits the most we ever could give, the most we ever
could offer, and the most we ever could do.
Finally, we can let love change everything. When Jesus was faced with the prospect of cruicifixion, he grieved not for himself, but for us.
He cried for Jerusalem before entering the Holy City. From the Cross, he took on the cumulative burden of human sin and weakness,
and begged for forgiveness on our behalf.
We get repeated chances to learn that life is not about us, that we acquired purpose and satisfaction by sharing in God’s love for others.
Sickness gets us part way there. It reminds us of our limitations and dependence. But it also gives us a chance to serve the healthy.
A minister friend of mine observes that people suffering grave afflictions
often acquire the faith of two people, while loved ones accept
the burden of two peoples’ worries and fears.
‘Learning How to Live’.
Most of us have watched friends as they drifted toward God’s arms,
not with resignation, but with peace and hope. In so doing, they have
taught us not how to die, but how to live. They have emulated
Christ by transmitting the power and authority of life.
I sat by my best friend’s bedside a few years ago as a wasting cancer took him away. He kept at his table a worn Bible and a 1928 edition of the
Book of Common Prayer. A shattering grief disabled his
family, many of his old friends, and at least one priest.
Here was an humble and very good guy, someone who apologized
when he winced with pain because he thought it made his
guest uncomfortable. He restrained his equanimity and
good humor literally until his last conscious moment.
‘I’m going to try to beat [this cancer],’ he told me several months
before he died. ‘But if I don’t, I’ll see you on the other side.’
His gift was to remind everyone around him that even though God doesn’t promise us tomorrow, he does promise us eternity- filled with life and love we cannot comprehend-and that one can, in the throes of sickness, point the rest of us toward timeless truths that will help us weather future storms.
Through such trials, God bids us to choose:
Do we believe, or do we not? Will we be bold enough to love, daring enough to serve, humble enough to submit, and strong enough to acknowledge our limitations? Can we surrender our concern in things that don’t matter
so that we might devote our remaining days to things that do?
When our faith flags, He throws reminders in our way. Think of the prayer warriors in our midst. They change things, and those of us who have
been on the receiving end of their petitions and intercessions know it.
It is hard to describe, but there are times when suddenly the hairs on the back of your neck stand up, and you feel a surge of the Spirit. Somehow you just know: Others have chosen, when talking to the Author of all creation,
to lift us up, – to speak of us! This is love of a very special order. But so is the ability to sit back and appreciate the wonder of every created thing.
The mere thought of death somehow makes every blessing vivid, every happiness more luminious and intense. We may not know how our contest with sickness will end, but we have felt the ineluctable touch of God.
What is man that Thou are mindful of him?
We don’t know much, but we know this:
No matter where we are, no matter what we do, no matter how bleak
or frightening our prospects, each and every one of us who
believe each and every day, lies in the same safe and
impregnable place, in the hollow of God’s hand.’
T. Snow
J R sings….
Ding dong the merry oh
Sing it high sing it low.
Ding dong Tony Snow is dead!
Hey how do they even know when a con stops functioning? Did they poke Tony with a stick or lay a dollar in front of him and he was unresponsive?
I bet Brit Hume has one of those bracelets. Only his says, “Please don’t embalm”.
I enjoyed that testimony by Tony Snow. A great read indeed!
Will JR or Monkeyhawk be kind enough to leave us their testimony as did Snow? It would be nice to have it on record before the time comes that we no longer receive the “benefit” of their postings.
By posting their testimonies before that time comes, we would all be able to determine how a competing ideology is reconciled with certain physical death.
The model of my faith dictates that all people have value, but BlueJay comes as close to proving that is not so as anyone I have ever been cursed enough to come in contact with.
BlueJay, you are as close to worthless as can be measured, using any measure.
Sorry to have to feel that way and say it, but you encourage it.
BlueJay
Posted July 16, 2008 at 12:05 pm | Permalink
J R sings….
Ding dong the merry oh
Sing it high sing it low.
Ding dong Tony Snow is dead!
Hey how do they even know when a con stops functioning? Did they poke Tony with a stick or lay a dollar in front of him and he was unresponsive?
I bet Brit Hume has one of those bracelets. Only his says, “Please don’t embalm”.
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He’s all yours, Dems. Enjoy. But watch your back; it just a matter of time before he goes postal.
Don’t say you weren’t warned.
Oh, and get help, JR. You’re damaging only yourself, and more importantly, that son you say you love.
“GMC70″ –
I’ll do my part to encourage “BlueJay” to seek help for his anger issues if you promise to work for “Nathaniel” to seek professional treatment for his crazy issues.
Deal?
Anybody see Tony Snow play the flute with Ian
Anderson (Jethro Tull)?
Pretty good.
There’s nothing wrong with Nathan and a lot wrong with Junior.
Nathan reminds me of the kids I grew up with in the 50s and 60s. Solid, good values and is committed to his country, his faith and his family.
It there were more men like Nathan around, the country would have fewer problems.
“Regular” chimes in with –
“There’s nothing wrong with Nathan…”
Being called sane by “Regular” is like being called beautiful by a toad.
(especially the toad part)
Which Nathan? The bully or the little boy? Doesn’t everyone see two distinctly different people in that one poster? Maybe he found diversity?
MH – I don’t agree with Nathan at times, and he has some maturing to do. He has the black/white view of the world of the young; oh were it that simple.
But I see no signs that he’s a danger to a single soul.
I can’t say that about JR. Can you?
Linda I at times think you don’t look closely enough at issues but basically try to be fair in your own mind. With Nathan as I have with Chas you have no objectivity. Nathan defends what he believes in whether you agree with his beliefs or not. He doesn’t change from day to day. He doesn’t try to appease the opposition. What you see is what you get.
BJ why do you poison the well from which you drink. Don’t you understand that the well also nurishes your son and he will ingest the same poison you release in his water. What a legacy you are passing on. Nothing to be proud of.
Monkey as with many left wing talk hosts you forget that you got paid to talk one way on the radio but in real life you can’t interact with others in the same way. You come off as a moral derilect with no thought of others that you come in contact with in life – only whether their ideological opions match yours.
The left on this blog has the most narrow minded people I have ever came in contact with but they have convinced themselves they are broad minded because they tolerate ‘everything’. The song lyric says it best ‘if you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything’.
“GMC70″ damns “Nathaniel” with faint praise –
“…he has some maturing to do. He has the black/white view of the world of the young…”
“Nathaniel” is what, 32 years old?!
How long does one get to play the naive youth card in your opinion, “GMC70?”
“…I see no signs that he’s a danger to a single soul.”
Unless you shoot his dog.
So don’t shoot his dog. Simple.
“okobserver” scolds –
“Monkey… You come off as a moral derilect….”
You’re the one who defended McC*nt’s ape-rape “joke.”
And I’m the “moral derelict?”
Forgive me for not living up to your impeccable moral standard.
MonkeyHawk,
Yes, shooting my dog would be a bad idea.
Linda,
I see you are over here calling me a bully again.
I don’t see how replying to what people post on a public blog makes me a bully.
I do understand that your constant refusal to ever explain yourself or defend the things you post when asked to do so could be considered “bullying” by someone who doesn’t ever feel like they need to defend themselves or ever address the things they post on a public blog.
“GMC70″ offers –
“So don’t shoot his dog. Simple.”
Perhaps you should read the wing-nuts’ posts to the Cat Leash thread.
“Nathaniel” steps forward with –
“…shooting my dog would be a bad idea.”
Obviously you’ve put a lot of thought into such a scenario?
Tell us more about why it would be a “bad idea,” and the consequences.
MonkeyHawk,
Why is it so obvious that I have put a lot of thought into the scenario?
Are you putting a lot of thought into shooting my dog?
MH –
Check out the ferel cat hunting with a civil war mortar over there. Yup, it’s from me. But you’d better have a dark sense of humor when you do.
Personally, a simple .22 will solve that problem.
And BTW- after what you bragged about in your claimed interview with Ashcroft, where would you EVER be qualified to call ANYONE a “moral derelict?” You roll in the sh** and enjoy it.
Congrats MonkeyHawk. BlueJay rejoices at the death of a fine man and wishes him suffering simply because he is a conservative. He is, of course, a nut.
But you have managed to turn the thread to a trial of Nathan, who, BTW, is twice the man you are.
Monkey in no way did I defend McCain – quiet the contrary. I said hopefully if he said what that newspaper article implied then hopefully he had matured since 1986. How old were you when you did the Ashcroft interview? Have you matured since then?
We all have our crosses to bear. McCain wouldn’t have been my candidate of choice but is clearly the best of the choices we now have.
Please quote me accurately. I can get myself in enough trouble on my own.
“But you have managed to turn the thread to a trial of Nathan, who, BTW, is twice the man you are.”
You met Nathan, when Outlander?
I’ve met him. I’ve met you.
You are both quiet types. In person anyway.
What is it they say? It’s always the quiet ones?
What I am good at more than the con posters here is honesty.
I hate cons. They hate me too. They are just less honest about it.
I AM sorry for Mr. Snow’s family. But I am not sorry that he is dead. He was on the wrong side.
How did that work out for him? The poor slob had to quit as Press Secretary to try and feed and care for his family. WHILE he was dying.
WHERE were the folks he shilled for to help him out in his suffering? Where was bush, cheney, Sean Hannity and that crowd?
Oh they sent flowers I am sure. Where was their care while Tony was alive?
Ya sure can’t blame Scott McClellan for his taking care of himself and his in light of how Tony Snow was treated.
“What I am good at more than the con posters here is honesty.”
Don’t kid yourself, JR. The person you lie to most is yourself.
I hate cons. They hate me too. They are just less honest about it.
I’ve never seen a more textbook case of projection.
Get help, JR. YOUR hate – and only YOUR hate – is eating you alive.
“Physician” heal thyself there round boy.