“At least the Congresswoman visited the area and looked at it.”
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No. . . she did not “look” at it.

http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/conservation-still-easiest-energy-fix/#comment-390463

http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/conservation-still-easiest-energy-fix/#comment-390495

“Is that what has you stumped cosmos? You can’t figure how to transport oil?”
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Nope!

http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/07/conservation-still-easiest-energy-fix/#comment-390459

And some more laughs, from the author of multi-nic’d ‘Regular’s’ post at 5:17 am yesterday.

‘Rep. Bachmann Reports From ANWR: ‘Drill It or Lose It’
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=27679
“And again, Prudhoe Bay has been the largest oil discovery that the United States has, and it is currently still today the largest oil discovery that America has, although the field is not producing as much as it did before. That means we need to find new sources of energy and through the seismic activity that scientists have done up there, they are quite certain that we have a very large oil reserve, the average estimate is 10 billion barrels of oil, just within 74 miles of the current pipeline.”
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1) “Quite certain? Did Bachmann fly over the Badami oil field, about 1/2 way between Prudhoe Bay and the western border of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge? They’re having lots of trouble getting the oil out, despite current high oil prices.

‘BP and Savant looking at Badami restart’
http://www.petroleumnews.com/pntruncate/610780426.shtml
“Major and independent would drill two wells over the next two years to avoid losing lands at the unit, hopefully restart field.”

2) “Seismic activity” shows that the possibly recoverable oil in Area 1002 is scattered in many small pools. How does Bachmann plan to lift, process, and transport that possibly recoverable oil to the western border of the Refuge? A Star Trek transporter beam?
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Ever hear of bridges? Barges? Floating pipelines? Boom pipelines?

Is that what has you stumped cosmos? You can’t figure how to transport oil?

And you want everyone to believe you have all the answers for the future?

cosmos is not a scientist.

cosmos is a political hack.

Multi-nic’d ‘Regular’ posted July 26, 2008 at 5:17 am

Last weekend, I traveled to northern Alaska to view firsthand the vast supply of natural resources America possesses. As I expected, ANWR was nothing more than a barren land, an arctic tundra void of wildlife and trees.”
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Bachmann’s plane didn’t even land in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, because it was too foggy. LOL! They just flew over it, and she declares that it’s “void of wildlife”.
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Better view than you cosmos. Have you ever been anyplace but the Internet?

At least the Congresswoman visited the area and looked at it.

‘Rep. Bachmann Reports From ANWR: ‘Drill It or Lose It’
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=27679
“And again, Prudhoe Bay has been the largest oil discovery that the United States has, and it is currently still today the largest oil discovery that America has, although the field is not producing as much as it did before. That means we need to find new sources of energy and through the seismic activity that scientists have done up there, they are quite certain that we have a very large oil reserve, the average estimate is 10 billion barrels of oil, just within 74 miles of the current pipeline.”
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1) “Quite certain? Did Bachmann fly over the Badami oil field, about 1/2 way between Prudhoe Bay and the western border of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge? They’re having lots of trouble getting the oil out, despite current high oil prices.

‘BP and Savant looking at Badami restart’
http://www.petroleumnews.com/pntruncate/610780426.shtml
“Major and independent would drill two wells over the next two years to avoid losing lands at the unit, hopefully restart field.”

2) “Seismic activity” shows that the possibly recoverable oil in Area 1002 is scattered in many small pools. How does Bachmann plan to lift, process, and transport that possibly recoverable oil to the western border of the Refuge? A Star Trek transporter beam?

Last weekend, I traveled to northern Alaska to view firsthand the vast supply of natural resources America possesses. As I expected, ANWR was nothing more than a barren land, an arctic tundra void of wildlife and trees.”
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Bachmann’s plane didn’t even land in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, because it was too foggy. LOL! They just flew over it, and she declares that it’s “void of wildlife”.

Except for Bachmann’s ridiculous claim that gas prices would drop to $2, she’s pretty typical of most Arctic Refuge drilling proponents.

She’s either very gullible, and believes the bogus talking points about 2,000-acre “plot”, Porcupine caribou wont be impacted, 750,000 new jobs, etc — or she’s deliberately lying.

‘Gassy: Adding up Bachmann’s $2-per-gallon promise’
http://minnesotaindependent.com/view/adding-up-bachmanns
“”The [Energy Information Administration] has also stated that the production of this oil would create an estimated as many as [sic] 750,000 American jobs,” wrote Bachmann.”
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That estimate is from a 1990 study by Wharton Econometric Forecasting Associates, not the EIA.
And multiple other studies show that it’s wrong.

‘Fuelish Claims
Drilling the Arctic won’t create a significant number of jobs. ‘
http://www.nrdc.org/land/wilderness/artech/farcjobs.asp

“…ANWR was nothing more than a barren land, an arctic tundra void of wildlife and trees.”
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Muskoxen, polar bears, vegetation, caribou, and 135 species of birds equals “a barren land”?

http://arctic.fws.gov/issues1.htm#section4
There are fundamental differences between the calving areas of the Central Arctic and the Porcupine herds. In the case of the Central Arctic herd, there is a greater amount of alternative calving area available for displaced cows to move to because the mountains are much farther from the ocean.
The 1002 Area is only one-fifth the size of the area used by the Central Arctic caribou herd, but six times as many caribou use the 1002 Area. In the Arctic Refuge, where the mountains are close to the coast, few alternative areas would be available for displaced cows. If the 1002 Area was developed, the associated pipelines, roads, and structures would potentially impact the Porcupine Caribou herd by:

* reducing the amount and quality of preferred forage available during and after calving,
* restricting access to important coastal insect-relief habitats,
* exposing the herd to higher predation, and
* altering an ancient migratory pattern, the effects of which we can not predict.

A reduction in annual calf survival of as little as 5% would be sufficient to cause a decline in the Porcupine caribou population.”

ROTFL. Particularly about ANWR being barren (most of the year). It is very clear she had no idea why ANWR was established in the first place.

Hint: Caribou migrate.

“…ANWR was nothing more than a barren land, an arctic tundra void of wildlife and trees.”

See photos by Subhankar Banerjee… beautiful scenery, caribou, snow geese, etc

http://www.oilonice.org/gallery/gallery.php?slide=130AutumnLakeshore.htm

“… the area which would be used for oil exploration is a small 2,000-acre lot. That is not even 1/10 of 1% of the total area of ANWR.”
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Why do pro-drillers LIE?

A speculative map of multi-nic’d ‘Regular’s “small 2,000-acre lot”(sic)
http://www.inforain.org/Northslope/anwr_3.html

Impact of the oil technology that would be used in the Refuge,
http://www.wilderness.org/Library/Documents/upload/AlpineNoEnvironmentalShowpiece

Oh I don’t think that is entirely true.

It IS true that Americans engage in the most shameful waste of resources and energy that this planet has ever witnessed. That must change.

The folks who resist that change may need a bit of coercion.

Regular — Before believing congresswoman bachman one should actualy read the report she cherry picks.

I also have a problem with her wanting to, “waive leasing and permitting regulations to open up these energy stores without further delay.” The oil companies would love that. Not having to abide by environmental regulations would save them millions, and start a trend of ruining the environment those same regulations were written to stop years ago.

Nice: oil will never drop below $100 a barrel ever again. Live with it. Use good old American ingenuity to develop cars getting 50 mpg or better; start a crash development of a temp stable superconductor to redo the nations power grid. We currently lose over 30% of all power generated via line loss. With superconductors, you lose nothing. If that were to become a reality, the excess electricity produced could be used for hydrogen generation. Cars . . . Hydrogen = good fit.

Improve battery technology so electric cars become cheap, safe and practical. This city currently has an old dumping ground generating Methane. Why are we not capturing it for energy production? Develop new ideas for both power generation and conservation usage.

There’s a lot more this country can do besides use the mantra, “drill here, drill now.” But it’s going to take people dropping the political nonsense, and start thinking like the pioneers we used to be, to get through this in a manner that doesn’t leave future generations with a country drained dry.

America’s gas prices are continuing to spiral out of control and Washington has done nothing to give our nation’s motorists the relief they deserve. Record high prices are having a major impact on American consumers and businesses, from the way people travel to the way they do business to the food they buy at the grocery store. Congress has the ability to decrease prices at the pump and get our nation back to $2 a gallon gas – and it means accessing our nation’s available resources and opening up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) today.

Last weekend, I traveled to northern Alaska to view firsthand the vast supply of natural resources America possesses. As I expected, ANWR was nothing more than a barren land, an arctic tundra void of wildlife and trees. During most of the year, it’s completely blanketed with ice and snow. Also, of the 19.6 million acres that makes up ANWR, the area which would be used for oil exploration is a small 2,000-acre lot. That is not even 1/10 of 1% of the total area of ANWR. The Energy Information Administration (EIA) estimates that 10.4 billion barrels of oil are recoverable in ANWR. If retrieved that would mean a possible 50% increase in total U.S. proven reserves and thousands of new domestic jobs.

It’s critical that Congress make lowering our gas prices a priority and set its political games aside. Yet, Democrats in the majority continue to block commonsense legislation from coming to the floor. In fact, they’re using parliamentary maneuvers to keep Republicans from even offering pro-energy amendments.

Since my earliest days in Congress, I have joined my Republican colleagues in supporting key legislation to curb our nation’s gas costs. Recently, I introduced a bill which would help us return to $2 a gallon. My bill, H.R. 6463, the Emergency Energy Cut-the-Red-Tape Now Act, would allow Americans to tap our national energy resources and provide relief from off-the-chart gas costs. It gives the Secretary of the Interior the ability to open the ANWR, oil shale reserves, and the Outer Continental Shelf, and streamline the refinery process. And if the price of oil exceeds $100 a barrel, my bill would require the Secretary to waive leasing and permitting regulations to open up these energy stores without further delay.

The United States has the ability to be energy independent. With abundant resources in areas like ANWR and the Mountain West we could end our foreign dependence on oil once and for all. Currently, the U.S. is the only country in the world that discourages using its own energy resources. Our country imports 10 million barrels of crude oil every day. And, we are importing 1.3 million barrels of refined gasoline. Having toured Alaska, I’ve seen the infrastructure that is already built and the pipeline that is not even at full capacity. We have the knowledge and expertise right here at home to procure and refine these products, get them to the pump, and create American jobs in the process.

Once these federal lands that have been off-limits are open to exploration, we would immediately begin to tap into our own resources, helping make us less dependent on foreign energy sources and reducing the cost to consumers. It’s clear that the American people are hurting and need immediate help. Congress must open up these lands and help Americans by exploring, producing, and putting these sources of energy into production now.

Congresswoman Bachmann serves the 6th district of Minnesota.

Human Events

http://www.ase.org/section/aboutus/

Another weasel organization that aligns itself with the litigious Sierra Club, using non-profit status to invoke minimal message with high dollar salaries for its staff.

“Experts”. Everytime I hear anonymous “experts” cited as a source, I know it’s pure Bull.
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MaxGrobnik, they are not “anonymous”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_to_Save_Energy#Member_Organizations

By driving 5 percent less, keeping tires inflated and slowing down, Americans immediately could save 1.3 million barrels of oil a day”

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How STUPID do these “experts” think Americans are if they don’t already know how to put air in their tires, slow down, and drive 5% less?

Guess what? American’s don’t give a DAMN about Conservation or Global Warming.

It people cared, if it was so damn easy, they’d be doing it already!

“Experts”. Everytime I hear anonymous “experts” cited as a source, I know it’s pure Bull.

‘Drilling in Detroit ‘
Tapping Automaker Ingenuity to Build Safe and Efficient Automobiles
http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_vehicles/fuel_economy/drilling-in-detroit.html

There might be oil or oleo, you don’t know.

Conservation is SO easy to do. And the American lifestyle is SO stupefyingly wasteful.

Consider petroleum.

It aint just for fueling vehicles ya know. We also use it to make plastic.

So follow me on a little trip…

Oil is extracted from the Earth and imported to America. Then it is refined into plastic.

It used to package a sandwich or a flashlight or a pair of scissors that you need OUT of the plastic they come in to GET out of the package it comes in.

Then it is thrown away. One use. Then off to the landfill.

Yeah it’s convenient. Yeah it’s great that ketchup bottles don’t break anymore.

But it is also damned stupid and wasteful and MUST change.

J R sings….

Well ougtha feel just a little bit guilty

When we look into the eyes of our kids.

Because brother it’s a fact.

If ya take and don’t give back?

They’ll have to pay for all we did.

Because electric cars contain batteries, they could become the “storage system” for wind and solar power.