Snub at odds with Obama message

hajibBarack Obama needs to make sure his staffers and volunteers understand that his “Yes, We Can” campaign should not be telling Muslim women wearing head scarves that they can’t sit within camera shot of the candidate. That’s what happened to two Muslim women Monday at Obama’s rally at Detroit’s Joe Louis Arena. One wants a personal apology from Obama (not just the one she got from a staffer) and prime seats at another rally. Campaign spokesman Bill Burton said: “It is offensive and counter to Obama’s commitment to bring Americans together and simply not the kind of campaign we run. We sincerely apologize for the behavior of these volunteers.”

51 Comments

  1. Regular
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 6:55 am | Permalink

    The new rules are:

    1. No one with Reverend or Father as a title.
    2. No poor white trash from W. Virginia or other trailer laden places.
    3. No Palestinian fund raiser recipients.
    4. No Chicago Real Estate moguls brought up on fraud charges.
    5. No mentioning of weather, men and underground in the same sentence.
    6. No women with headscarves.
    7. No American flag lapel pins.
    8. No statements about voting record or lack thereof.
    9. No list of introduced and passed legislation.
    10. Clear enunciation of “Yes Senator Kennedy, there are two more (not too mur) seats.
    11. No Madrassa leaders or otherwise, bow tie wearing, bespectacled national Muslim leaders.
    12. No former independents wearing large yellow clown shoes.

  2. Predestined
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 7:14 am | Permalink

    13. No useless, irrational spin comments from Regular before noon.

  3. Regular
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 7:18 am | Permalink

    14. No comments on other posters comments until you make one of your own first.

  4. Political_mama
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 7:28 am | Permalink

    And the same people beating him up over this, are the same people who would have held that photo up as proof that Obama has the Muslim support!

    There are plenty of Muslim Americans, and yet, I don’t think I have ever seen one in a photo behind any candidate.

  5. GunhugnGodNut
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 8:04 am | Permalink

    Just incredible are the blind people who defend him no matter what he does!!

  6. BlueJay
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    What’s this?

    ANOTHER embarrassment fell out of the Obama closet?

    This isn’t new. Back in April, his handlers were calling for more white people near the candydate. Saying literally: “We need more white people!”.

    Phony.

  7. Jed
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    P-mom,
    “There are plenty of Muslim Americans, and yet, I don’t think I have ever seen one in a photo behind any candidate.”

    I’ve seen plenty of photo ops with our fearless leader shaking hands with Saudi royalty.

  8. WSClark
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    “I’ve seen plenty of photo ops with our fearless leader shaking hands with Saudi royalty.”

    I’ve seen photos of George kissing Price Bandar.

    No tongues were involved, so both men claim.

  9. ksagnostic
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    “14. No comments on other posters comments until you make one of your own first.”

    That was not posting comments. That was trolling.

    Ooooops.

    Re: Regular
    DNFTT

  10. Posted June 20, 2008 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    Heh Clark. And the famous pic of bush holding hands with the same guy. IOKIYAAR.

    But ya know, this isnt the first time something like this has happened with obama. Remember, he refused to be in a phote with Gavin Newsome, mayor of San Francisco, even after Gavin had raised money for his campaign.

    Ya know, obama doesnt like to be too closely associated with the mayor who married gays. Geez, I wonder if he thinks he can catch “the gay” that way?

    And I’m a lovin’ how all those who pilloried Hillary for “breaking her promise” on seating Florida and Michigan delegates dont even blink at obama “breaking his promise” on public campaign financing.

    No wonder he loves governor “leadership”. They both come from the “finger in the wind” school of political science. IOKIYAO

  11. WSClark
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    “obama “breaking his promise” on public campaign financing.”

    His promise was an “if – then” statement.

    If the Republican agreed to public finance, then Obama would…………….

    McCain did not agree.

  12. WSClark
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    “And the famous pic of bush holding hands with the same guy.”

    I thought they made a cute couple.

  13. WSClark
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    “McCain did not agree.”

    Correction – McCain is using public financing, after self-financing the primaries.

  14. Monkeyhawk
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    “WSClark” notes –

    “obama “breaking his promise” on public campaign financing.”

    His promise was an “if – then” statement.

    If the Republican agreed to public finance, then Obama would…………….

    McCain did not agree.”

    Well, he disagreed before he agreed before he did not agree. (See a pattern here? The only issue McSame has been consistent on is that he thinks his wife’s a c*nt.)

    He gamed the federal campaign law (he wrote) to get collateral for loans to the campaign last winter. He flew his trophy wife’s private jet (Air C*nt?) through all sorts of loopholes (in the campaign finance reform law he wrote) while Obama attracted millions of donors who’ve given $250 or less.

    And all those CONs who vehemently objected taxpayers’ money financing political campaigns? Well, we don’t hear that meme from the Republic Party that much anymore, now do we?

    I wonder what the view is like from atop their own petards?

  15. Jed
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    WS,
    “I thought they made a cute couple.”

    Now if we could just get them to a Lover’s Leap…..

  16. BlueJay
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    “And I’m a lovin’ how all those who pilloried Hillary for “breaking her promise” on seating Florida and Michigan delegates dont even blink at obama “breaking his promise” on public campaign financing.”

    Me too kfg me too.

    Except? I was kinda hoping this hypocrisy was the result of some third eye or higher perspective that the bleaters of “yes we can!” had been given to which I am not privy. Maybe…maybe I just don’t understand. I mean I didn’t sit in a room WITH Barack. Perhaps my perspective is doomed to be gasp…fair and realistic.

  17. Posted June 20, 2008 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    I thought mcsame DID agree to public finance? A little late, but he did agree, no?

    But of course, in obama land, his broken promise is all mcsame’s fault. So much for personal responsibility… if it gets in the way of an advantage in campaign cash, it’s just an incovenient truth.

  18. WSClark
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    “A little late, but he did agree, no?”

    Yes, but it was a little like Alex DeLarge in a Clockwork Orange – a little of the old “in out in out.”

    “Real horror show all around, oh my brothers.”

  19. Rage
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    The latest on the topic:
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-obama_apology-jun20,0,382906.story

    For me, the crucial questions are whether these people were really volunteers, and whether they were acting on their own, or with instructions. Any idiot can be a political volunteer: I once got roped by a zealous friend into “volunteering” for a political event myself, hours before the fact. I was supposedly on Al Gore’s staff, but I never even met the man.

  20. MaxGrobnik
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Amazing the excuses you people like Rage make for Obama, defending his discriminatory and divisive practices.

    Obama will divide America just like he’s divided the Democrat party.

    Can’t allow any Muslims in Obama’s Photo Ops, cause people might think Barrack Hussein Obama is a Muslim.

    How bout a Turbin Photo of Obama? Probably from Clinton’s camp.

    Clinton release that “tape” yet, on Obama? Probably waiting until just before the Convention.

  21. Rage
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    Amazing the excuses you people like Rage make for Obama, defending his discriminatory and divisive practices.

    Huh? What “excuse” did I make? You need to work on your reading comprehension, obviously.

  22. Posted June 20, 2008 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    Well Clark, you know I’m no fan of mcsame. But he is IN for good, now, on public finance, right?

    So.. why NOW is obama not standing by his word? Because.. he’s doing what it takes to win.

    Funny, those were the same charges so many leveled here at Hillary. She didnt keep her word, and she would do ANYTHING to win.

    I dont disagree that the meme “they all do it” applies here.

    So.. that would make obama just like all the other candidates. And he’s based his candidacy on change from being just like everyone else.

    It’s going to be a long season between now and November. The longer this goes on, the more incidences of “more of the same” you will see from the obama camp.

    “They all do it” usually means “it works”. And we know obama is skilled at “what works”. Just dont blow smoke up our skirts about him being so very different from all the rest.

    He’s not. Now… what else does he have?

  23. MaxGrobnik
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    Obama’s turbin:

    http://elections.foxnews.com/files/2008/02/obama_garb.jpg

  24. BlueJay
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    We’re singin’ off key farmgrrl.

    I don’t they’re gonna let us in the glee club…

    (chokes back a sob)

  25. MaxGrobnik
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    Rage
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 10:55 am | Permalink
    Amazing the excuses you people like Rage make for Obama, defending his discriminatory and divisive practices.

    Huh? What “excuse” did I make? You need to work on your reading comprehension, obviously.
    ———————————————-

    Try reading your own damn post Rage:

    Rage
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 10:46 am | Permalink
    The latest on the topic:
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-obama_apology-jun20,0,382906.story

    For me, the crucial questions are whether these people were really volunteers, and whether they were acting on their own, or with instructions.
    ————————————————–

    Translation: You are defending Obama by speculating on whether Obama’s volunteers were really his volunteers, or were his volunteers and acting in accordance with Obama’s instructions.

    THAT, is YOUR Excuse for Obama.

  26. MaxGrobnik
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    For Obama, the Buck Stops Where?

    Oh no, he’s not responsible for his own campaign staff.

    Somebody else did it.

    Change?

    Not.

  27. MaxGrobnik
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    Ok, Obama does NOT offer Change.

    But, there is still HOPE.

  28. Posted June 20, 2008 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    Obama is damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t.

    One can only imagine the glee with which Faux News would highlight the headscarf “sisters” with clucks of disapproval about “madrasses in Indonesia.”

    These same Muslim babes should try to sit behind McCain. Pigs will fly in a frozen hell when that happens . . .

  29. Rage
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    Max: You’re an idiot. I never suggested that they weren’t his volunteers, nor did I speculate anything. I simply asked the most obvious questions about the incident.

    Moron.

  30. MaxGrobnik
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    Yeah, Obama had no choice except to Discriminate against those Muslim women.

    He was forced to.

    Cause he was damned if he did or didn’t.

    He had no choice.

    Same Hopeless Politician, with no BALLS.

  31. MaxGrobnik
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    Thanks for the expected response Rage.

    Can’t erase your posts though.

    Too bad.

  32. Rage
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Heh, I’m just glad to live in the reality-based community! :)

  33. WSClark
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    “Just dont blow smoke up our skirts about him being so very different from all the rest.”

    Unless it’s really, really good smoke? (wink!)

    There is no doubt that Barack Obama is a skilled politician and that he is in it to win it, and the first order of business is to take the Oath of Office next January.

    Contrary to the thoughts of some, I am not so blinded by my support of Obama not to realize that he is a politician and he shares some characteristics of every politician.

    In 2000 and 2004, the Democrats tried the “we’re better than that” approach and we ended up with George occupying the White House.

    As with any issue, there are more than one side to the coin. While Obama raises more money individually, the RNC raises far more soft money than the DNC, and there are far more right wing 527 groups willing to spend large dollars to smear Democratic candidates.

    Obama has little choice but to fight fire with fire and one area where he does have an advantage is fund raising.

    But, he did try…………..

    “Obama campaign lawyer Robert Bauer said he had met with McCain lawyers to discuss terms for both campaigns operating in the public financing system, but he said they could not agree on how to limit spending by the campaigns and outside groups heading into the late summer party conventions.”

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25259863/

  34. WSClark
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    Rage, Max is strictly Scroll Over territory.

  35. Posted June 20, 2008 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/the_obama_pledge.html

    Did Barack Obama ever commit himself to accept public financing for the general election if the Republicans made a similar pledge? The Obama and Clinton campaigns have been arguing this point for the last few days, and it is now the Fact Checker’s turn to weigh in.

    The issue of public financing has come back to the fore now that John McCain appears to have locked up the Republican nomination. The Arizona senator has championed campaign finance reform. Last March, the McCain campaign publicly committed itself to accept public financing in the general election “if the Democratic nominee agrees to do the same.” In return for giving up the chance to raise hundreds of millions of dollars in private funds, both major candidates would receive around $85 million in public funds.

    The Facts
    It is not only the Clinton campaign that is accusing Obama of breaking his word. Last week, a coalition of advocacy groups expressed “deep concern” at the possibility that the Illinois senator might wriggle out of what they depicted as a firm “pledge” to accept public financing in the general election.

    To understand the background to this dispute, it is necessary to go back to February 2007 when the Obama campaign raised the possibility of accepting public funds with the Federal Election Commission. In a Feb. 1, 2007 letter to the FEC, lawyers for Obama asked whether the campaign could “provisionally raise funds for the general election but retain the option” of returning the contributions if an agreement was reached with other major candidates on accepting public financing. The FEC ruled on March 1 that this was permissable, as long as the general election funds were kept in a clearly separate account from the primary election funds.

    The Obama campaign is correct in arguing that there is nothing in the Feb. 1 letter to the FEC that can be fairly interpreted as committing the campaign to accepting public financing. Obama spokesman Bill Burton told Politico on Feb. 28, 2007 that the senator would not necessarily commit himself to participating in the public financing system if the commission approved his proposal. “It would be a situation where if the Republican agreed to opt-in to the public financing system, it would be something we would explore,” Burton told Politico.

    ******

    McCain has already broken his promise and probably some laws as well by agreeing to take public funds, using that agreement as collateral for a 4 million dollar of which he spent nearly 3 million and then opting out of the public funds program.

    Obama may be flip-flopping, but McCain is directly benefitting from gaming the system.

  36. Posted June 20, 2008 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    BTW, a judge ruled in the lawsuit that the DNC brought against McCain that the Federal Election Commission has to make a ruling for or against McCain by next Tuesday.

    Where’s their ruling on Obama?

    Oh, that’s right . . . there isn’t one because he didn’t sign any agreement unlike McCain.

  37. Posted June 20, 2008 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    BTW, this is also “damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t” terrority.

    If Obama accepts public funds as he seemed to be leaning towards early on, then he is rightly criticised as neutralizing his biggest asset–energetic grass roots support.

    He has already refused to take PAC and lobbyist money . . . and persuaded the DNC to do the same.

    That’s a huge power shift away from big-money politics.

    But, nope, not good enough for the ideological purists who end up on the same side as the reich-wing hate-mongers.

  38. MaxGrobnik
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    WSClark
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 11:53 am | Permalink
    Rage, Max is strictly Scroll Over territory.
    ———————————————–

    Funny Clark, you keep saying that, over and over.

  39. Posted June 20, 2008 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    Slow day at the office, eh, Max?

    Thank your boy Bush for that . . .

  40. MaxGrobnik
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    No, I’m on vacation Capn.

    How about you?

  41. MaxGrobnik
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    Great Web Site for You Obama Fans:

    http://www.excusesrus.com/

  42. Posted June 20, 2008 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    I have Friday’s off.

    And you’ll know when I’m on vacation.

    I won’t be blogging–I’ll be hauling in big yellow tail jack and Nassau grouper off some coral reef.

  43. WSClark
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    “I won’t be blogging–I’ll be hauling in big yellow tail jack and Nassau grouper off some coral reef.”

    Well, just rub it in, sum’bitch.

    The only fish I catch are at Dillon’s.

  44. Posted June 20, 2008 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    Senator who writes campaign-funding reform fined for lying to FEC

    I’m just anticipating next week’s big headline.

  45. Posted June 20, 2008 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    Hehehe, Clark.

    Fishing in the Islands does ruin one for fishing anywhere else.

    After you get used to catching a dozen fish in 45 minutes, Cheney Lake just doesn’t have the same appeal . . .

  46. Posted June 20, 2008 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    In fact one of the big problems we have is getting our bait down to the bottom where the big fish are fast enought before the smaller fish higher up can find it and hit it.

    It’s tragic when you have to settle for a smaller fish . . .

  47. WSClark
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    “Well, just rub it in, sum’bitch.”

    Ha!

  48. Posted June 20, 2008 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, well, we dont have sharks on Downer Creek.

    much

    heheheheh!

  49. Regular
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    The Capn doesn’t understand the philosophy of fishing.

    One takes his time, resting in the peaceful atmosphere nature has provided. Thinking to yourself without interference of city sights and sounds. No buzzing noises from TV or radio.

    Just you and your fishing gear. Whether something is caught is a bonus.

    The real prize is serenity and gathering your mind.

  50. Posted June 20, 2008 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    And beer… The real prize is beer…

  51. Posted June 20, 2008 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    Sounds like we enjoy the same kinda fishing reg!