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How will the day begin??????????
Will old man price post his usual science denial post?
Will boxtop, the dancing poodle, bleat the dossiers he is compiling on the more progressive posters?
How will the day begin??????????
Will old man price post his usual science denial post?
Will boxtop, the dancing poodle, bleat the dossiers he is compiling on the more progressive posters?
Will the marine-boy, nathan, constantly badger Chas about not being a “christian”?
Will the marine-boy continue his claim that there is no difference between civilian and enemy combatant casualties in Iraq?
Will the troll, “regular”, “kansas”, “jm”, “republican”, “republikhan”, “america”, etc, etc, etc, tell new and obsurd lies throughout the day?
I guess we’ll have to wait to see!
That was a mess of a post, let’s try it again:
How will the day begin??????????
Will old man price post his usual science denial post?
Will boxtop, the dancing poodle, bleat about the dossiers he is compiling on the more progressive posters?
Will the marine-boy, nathan, constantly badger Chas about not being a “christian”?
Will the marine-boy continue his claim that there is no difference between civilian and enemy combatant casualties in Iraq?
Will the troll, “regular”, “kansas”, “jm”, “republican”, “republikhan”, “america”, etc, etc, etc, tell new and obsurd lies throughout the day?
I guess we’ll have to wait to see!
(this is much cleaner, though I’m sure this will give the reichwing something to yammer about ALL DAY and NIGHT)
(I got this in my e-mail, gee who knew that this man was so talented. He is a male Muslim extremist, a hate fulled Christian, won’t wear a flag pin, tax and spend liberal, undercover Black radical with associations to old weathermen has-beens. You have to give Barock Obama credit, in his short forty some years he has been busy!)
Subject: I’m Speechless
Obama Explains National Anthem Stance
Is this guy crazy or what!
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:48:04 -0400, “LT. Bill Ginn” USAF ret forwarded: Hot on the heels of his explanation for why he no longer wears a flag pin, presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama was forced to explain why he doesn’t follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.
According to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171…… During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart.
“As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides,> whose side? USA or what?<” Obama said. “There are a lot of people in
the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose.( dictionary please) I like the song ‘I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing.’ If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.”
WHAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!!!! Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this could possibly be our next president. I, for one, am speechless . .
Pass It On Before It’s too Late. Let’s Teach The World About This Idiot.
Perhaps the reichwingers would like to tell us how great a candidate they have in slimeball McShame.
http://tinyurl.com/6gbzhw
Nothing like running worst husband ever for worst President ever’s job!
Of the little town in OK I was living in I would say: If the truth was not bad enough, they would make up a good lie.
I am still waiting on the good lie.
What the heck, Apophis. Let’s start the day with this:
The wife U.S. Republican John McCain callously left behind
By Sharon Churcher
Now that Hillary Clinton has at last formally withdrawn from the race for the White House, the eyes of America and the world will focus on Barack Obama and his Republican rival Senator John McCain.
While Obama will surely press his credentials as the embodiment of the American dream – a handsome, charismatic young black man who was raised on food stamps by a single mother and who represents his country’s future – McCain will present himself as a selfless, principled war hero whose campaign represents not so much a battle for the presidency of the United States, but a crusade to rescue the nation’s tarnished reputation.
Forgotten woman: But despite all her problems Carol McCain says she still adores he ex-husband
McCain likes to illustrate his moral fibre by referring to his five years as a prisoner-of-war in Vietnam. And to demonstrate his commitment to family values, the 71-year-old former US Navy pilot pays warm tribute to his beautiful blonde wife, Cindy, with whom he has four children.
But there is another Mrs McCain who casts a ghostly shadow over the Senator’s presidential campaign. She is seldom seen and rarely written about, despite being mother to McCain’s three eldest children.
And yet, had events turned out differently, it would be she, rather than Cindy, who would be vying to be First Lady. She is McCain’s first wife, Carol, who was a famous beauty and a successful swimwear model when they married in 1965.
She was the woman McCain dreamed of during his long incarceration and torture in Vietnam’s infamous ‘Hanoi Hilton’ prison and the woman who faithfully stayed at home looking after the children and waiting anxiously for news.
But when McCain returned to America in 1973 to a fanfare of publicity and a handshake from Richard Nixon, he discovered his wife had been disfigured in a terrible car crash three years earlier. Her car had skidded on icy roads into a telegraph pole on Christmas Eve, 1969. Her pelvis and one arm were shattered by the impact and she suffered massive internal injuries.
When Carol was discharged from hospital after six months of life-saving surgery, the prognosis was bleak. In order to save her legs, surgeons
had been forced to cut away huge sections of shattered bone, taking with it her tall, willowy figure. She was confined to a wheelchair and was forced to use a catheter.
Through sheer hard work, Carol learned to walk again. But when John McCain came home from Vietnam, she had gained a lot of weight and bore little resemblance to her old self.
Today, she stands at just 5ft4in and still walks awkwardly, with a pronounced limp. Her body is held together by screws and metal plates and, at 70, her face is worn by wrinkles that speak of decades of silent suffering.
For nearly 30 years, Carol has maintained a dignified silence about the accident, McCain and their divorce. But last week at the bungalow where she now lives at Virginia Beach, a faded seaside resort 200 miles south of Washington, she told The Mail on Sunday how McCain divorced her in 1980 and married Cindy, 18 years his junior and the heir to an Arizona brewing fortune, just one month later.
Carol insists she remains on good terms with her ex-husband, who agreed as part of their divorce settlement to pay her medical costs for life. ‘I have no bitterness,’ she says. ‘My accident is well recorded. I had 23 operations, I am five inches shorter than I used to be and I was in hospital for six months. It was just awful, but it wasn’t the reason for my divorce.
‘My marriage ended because John McCain didn’t want to be 40, he wanted to be 25. You know that happens…it just does.’
Some of McCain’s acquaintances are less forgiving, however. They portray the politician as a self-centred womaniser who effectively abandoned his crippled wife to ‘play the field’. They accuse him of finally settling on Cindy, a former rodeo beauty queen, for financial reasons.
McCain was then earning little more than £25,000 a year as a naval officer, while his new father-in-law, Jim Hensley, was a multi-millionaire who had impeccable political connections.
He first met Carol in the Fifties while he was at the US Naval Academy in Annapolis. He was a privileged, but rebellious scion of one of America’s most distinguished military dynasties – his father and grandfather were both admirals.
But setting out to have a good time, the young McCain hung out with a group of young officers who called themselves the ‘Bad Bunch’.
His primary interest was women and his conquests ranged from a knife-wielding floozy nicknamed ‘Marie, the Flame of Florida’ to a tobacco heiress.
Carol fell into his fast-living world by accident. She escaped a poor upbringing in Philadelphia to become a successful model, married an Annapolis classmate of McCain’s and had two children – Douglas and Andrew – before renewing what one acquaintance calls ‘an old flirtation’ with McCain.
It seems clear she was bowled over by McCain’s attention at a time when he was becoming bored with his playboy lifestyle.
‘He was 28 and ready to settle down and he loved Carol’s children,’ recalled another Annapolis graduate, Robert Timberg, who wrote The Nightingale’s Song, a bestselling biography of McCain and four other graduates of the academy.
The couple married and McCain adopted Carol’s sons. Their daughter, Sidney, was born a year later, but domesticity was clearly beginning to bore McCain – the couple were regarded as ‘fixtures on the party circuit’ before McCain requested combat duty in Vietnam at the end of 1966.
He was assigned as a bomber pilot on an aircraft carrier in the Gulf of Tonkin.
What follows is the stuff of the McCain legend. He was shot down over Hanoi in October 1967 on his 23rd mission over North Vietnam and was badly beaten by an angry mob when he was pulled, half-drowned from a lake.
Over the next five-and-a-half years in the notorious Hoa Loa Prison he was regularly tortured and mistreated.
It was in 1969 that Carol went to spend the Christmas holiday – her third without McCain – at her parents’ home. After dinner, she left to drop off some presents at a friend’s house.
It wasn’t until some hours later that she was discovered, alone and in terrible pain, next to the wreckage of her car. She had been hurled through the windscreen.
After her first series of life-saving operations, Carol was told she may never walk again, but when doctors said they would try to get word to McCain about her injuries, she refused, insisting: ‘He’s got enough problems, I don’t want to tell him.’
H. Ross Perot, a billionaire Texas businessman, future presidential candidate and advocate of prisoners of war, paid for her medical care.
When McCain – his hair turned prematurely white and his body reduced to little more than a skeleton – was released in March 1973, he told reporters he was overjoyed to see Carol again.
But friends say privately he was ‘appalled’ by the change in her appearance. At first, though, he was kind, assuring her: ‘I don’t look so good myself. It’s fine.’
He bought her a bungalow near the sea in Florida and another former PoW helped him to build a railing so she could pull herself over the dunes to the water.
‘I thought, of course, we would live happily ever after,’ says Carol. But as a war hero, McCain was moving in ever-more elevated circles.
Through Ross Perot, he met Ronald Reagan, then Governor of California. A sympathetic Nancy Reagan took Carol under her wing.
But already the McCains’ marriage had begun to fray. ‘John started carousing and running around with women,’ said Robert Timberg.
McCain has acknowledged that he had girlfriends during this time, without going into details. Some friends blame his dissatisfaction with Carol, but others give some credence to her theory of a mid-life crisis.
He was also fiercely ambitious, but it was clear he would never become an admiral like his illustrious father and grandfather and his thoughts were turning to politics.
In 1979 – while still married to Carol – he met Cindy at a cocktail party in Hawaii. Over the next six months he pursued her, flying around the country to see her. Then he began to push to end his marriage.
Carol and her children were devastated. ‘It was a complete surprise,’ says Nancy Reynolds, a former Reagan aide.
‘They never displayed any difficulties between themselves. I know the Reagans were quite shocked because they loved and respected both Carol and John.’
Another friend added: ‘Carol didn’t fight him. She felt her infirmity made her an impediment to him. She justified his actions because of all he had gone through. She used to say, “He just wants to make up for lost time.”’
Indeed, to many in their circle the saddest part of the break-up was Carol’s decision to resign herself to losing a man she says she still adores.
Friends confirm she has remained friends with McCain and backed him in all his campaigns. ‘He was very generous to her in the divorce but of course he could afford to be, since he was marrying Cindy,’ one observed.
McCain transferred the Florida beach house to Carol and gave her the right to live in their jointly-owned townhouse in the Washington suburb of Alexandria. He also agreed to pay her alimony and child support.
A former neighbour says she subsequently sold up in Florida and Washington and moved in 2003 to Virginia Beach. He said: ‘My impression was that she found the new place easier to manage as she still has some difficulties walking.’
Meanwhile McCain moved to Arizona with his new bride immediately after their 1980 marriage. There, his new father-in-law gave him a job and introduced him to local businessmen and political powerbrokers who would smooth his passage to Washington via the House of Representatives and Senate.
And yet despite his popularity as a politician, there are those who won’t forget his treatment of his first wife.
Ted Sampley, who fought with US Special Forces in Vietnam and is now a leading campaigner for veterans’ rights, said: ‘I have been following John McCain’s career for nearly 20 years. I know him personally. There is something wrong with this guy and let me tell you what it is – deceit.
‘When he came home and saw that Carol was not the beauty he left behind, he started running around on her almost right away. Everybody around him knew it.
‘Eventually he met Cindy and she was young and beautiful and very wealthy. At that point McCain just dumped Carol for something he thought was better.
‘This is a guy who makes such a big deal about his character. He has no character. He is a fake. If there was any character in that first marriage, it all belonged to Carol.’
One old friend of the McCains said: ‘Carol always insists she is not bitter, but I think that’s a defence mechanism. She also feels deeply in his debt because in return for her agreement to a divorce, he promised to pay for her medical care for the rest of her life.’
Carol remained resolutely loyal as McCain’s political star rose. She says she agreed to talk to The Mail on Sunday only because she wanted to publicise her support for the man who abandoned her.
Indeed, the old Mercedes that she uses to run errands displays both a disabled badge and a sticker encouraging people to vote for her ex-husband. ‘He’s a good guy,’ she assured us. ‘We are still good friends. He is the best man for president.’
But Ross Perot, who paid her medical bills all those years ago, now believes that both Carol McCain and the American people have been taken in by a man who is unusually slick and cruel – even by the standards of modern politics.
‘McCain is the classic opportunist. He’s always reaching for attention and glory,’ he said.
‘After he came home, Carol walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona. And the rest is history.’
“writerdog” –
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp
MonkeyHawk, just from reading it I knew it was not true. Sometimes I am befuddled at how stupid and gullable the human races can be.
When I was young I heard that Human beings was said to be the most intelligent creatures on the planet.
As I got older I questioned that conclusion.
But then realized that it was the human beings that were making the claim. Its easy to meet the benchmark when you set yourself as the benchmark.
Monkeyhawk
I read that article yesterday, how shameful!
Let’s see the spin the reichwing puts on this.
I’m sure it will all be Bill Clinton’s fault, it always is!
Off to do my daily workout…………….back later!
‘My marriage ended because John McCain didn’t want to be 40, he wanted to be 25. You know that happens…it just does.’
On my wife’s birthday I use to say I could trade her in on a 18 y.o. plus what ever years were left over. Such as a 18 y.o. and a 10 y.o. Now I would not trade her in for anything! Some morning I just can not get out of bed without her help…..
How will the day begin? Will Apophis with his jaded world view and the disposition of sour grapes and rancid milk spoil the day before it has even started. We’ll see…
No wait, Apophis has already poisoned the well.
Apophis, or Oedipus I mean,
All of your posts are “a mess of a post”, but in spite of your best efforts they will never be anything else but the posts of a small time middle school teacher with poor writing abilities.
Too bad our kids must suffer such poor abilities as your’s as a teacher. No wonder the public schools rake poorly in national tests.
Poor Oedipus, can’t even come up with his own derogatory term for me but must resort to one he gets from on of his other incompetent friends.
And if my keeping track of his rude remarks doesn’t in fact bother him he should ask himself why the first two posts of the thread and so early in the morning is so full of hate.
Good Morning Oedipus.
Regular,
“No wait, Apophis has already poisoned the well.”
So true, he always poisons the well, even if we are there, have you noticed.
How can ones nature be so dismal that the first things he writes upon awakening is poison?
Regular, why do we even respond to the little cesspool, he’s not worth the calories expended to type I have decided.
“even if we are there” should read ‘even if we AREN’T there”
scary video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5K6XbhyNxk
a good question to ask yourself, as we contemplate investing 45 trillion to solve a “problem” that shows no symptoms:
Why?
From American Thinker
“A June 2nd piece at WaPo lamenting the Senate’s probable failure to pass S.3036 (for now) further exemplified the left’s disregard for the science by stating that:
“The world has clamored for U.S. leadership on climate change. Yet for seven years the Bush administration denied and dithered while the planet warmed.” [emphasis added]
An interesting accusation, particularly considering that the planet stopped warming 2 years before Bush took the oath in 2001, has been cooling since 2002 and that this year’s was the fourth coldest May since 1979.
That’s right — the University of Alabama, Huntsville just published its satellite-derived temperature anomalies for May. The figures depict a global temperature drop of 0.195°C between April and May, and a drop of 0.379°C since May of last year. Anthony Watts, one of myriad scientists attributing recent cooling (and global temperature anomalies overall) to the activity of that yellow dwarf star at the center of our solar system and other historically correlative natural forces, notes that: [emphasis in original]
“Even more impressive is the change since the last big peak in global temperature in January 2007 at 0.594°C, giving a 16 month ?T of -0.774°C which is equal in magnitude to the generally agreed upon ‘global warming signal’ of the last 100 years.”
Please consider those words carefully.
And also that, as previously noted, NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory recently confirmed that an impending phase shift in the Pacific Decadal Oscillation will likely bring colder temperatures for as many as the next 20-30 years.
So amid all the dreadful economics, the Democrats were actually proposing the single largest government intrusion into the nation’s economy since WWII rationing in order to stop something that stopped almost 10 years ago. And which, despite continually rising atmospheric CO2 levels, exhibits no signs of restarting.
A socialistic solution in search of a problem if ever there were one.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/congress_fiddled_with_warming.html
but but but Outlander, cosmos will tell you that the warming is being masked by the ‘evil La Nina.’
It’s not the Alarmists fault that mother nature is not cooperating with their pet theories. It’s not the Alarmist fault that there has been only a 1.4F temperature change in the past 100 years in the 20th century and the 21st century temperatures have pretty much eaten into that average.
Notice how the stump speakers like the GORACLE are slow to relate the most recent total temperature averages. It’s like they are afraid of reality from mother nature!
You know, it has been written, what better way to scare and control people than with the weather and the climate.
Duh progress liberal democrits have latched onto this idea and promoting their own type of ‘terroritic’ doom and gloom scenarios to shock people into a tax and spend agenda.
Yeah, I have an idea. Let’s tax the climate. Something we really can’t change or will ever have control over. A perfect plan…
Now if we can just get these fools to go along, we’ll have the perfect socialistic society for centuries.
If it’s not warming, it will be by the hot air from campaigns both political and agenda based.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUvnLPJ9ei4
some more of that liberal godless doom and gloom
LOL!
How did the day begin? Well, thanks for asking Apophis!
Boo Bear woke me this morning at 6am. Went in the kitchen started the coffee pot then walked the dogs. After the coffee was done I fed the puppy her breakfast on the screened in porch while I sat drinking my coffee and watching a gentle rain on the lake and garden.
Put on my jeans and a T-shirt and took Samson with me to take care of the goats, feed the horses and check on the baby ducks I’m raising.
Got back to the house in time to take my baby a cup of coffee as the alarm was going off. Took my shower and got ready for work. Put the dogs up and took the trash out to the street.
Life is good!
Thank God I’m not a middle aged, bitter schoolteacher that only has the BLOG to look forward to each morning! Thank God my belief system isn’t so threatened that I have to attack anyone with a different opinion first thing in the morning!
….I see the dancing poodle and lying rat terrier (boxtop and regular) have shown up right on cue.
dance poodle dance!
You know, I LOVE being the central of your hatred!
Friday night Keith Olbermann asked former counterterrorism adviser Richard Clarke what “remedy” there could be for the lies and misinformation highlighted in the new Senate Intelligence Committee reports on the Bush administration’s misuse of pre-war Iraq intelligence.
“Someone should have to pay in some way for the decisions that they made to mislead the American people,” said Clarke. He suggested that “some sort of truth and reconciliation commission” might be appropriate because, he said, we can’t “let these people back into polite society”:
CLARKE: Well, there may be some other kind of remedy. There may be some sort of truth and reconciliation commission process that’s been tried in other countries, South Africa, Salvador and what not, where if you come forward and admit that you were in error or admit that you lied, admit that you did something, then you’re forgiven. Otherwise, you are censured in some way.
Now, I just don’t think we can let these people back into polite society and give them jobs on university boards and corporate boards and just let them pretend that nothing ever happened when there are 4,000 Americans dead and 25,000 Americans grieviously wounded, and they’ll carry those wounds and suffer all the rest of their lives.
Unfortunately, as Clarke hints, most of the architects of the Iraq war are still fully embraced by “polite society.”
Some, like President Bush and Vice President Cheney, are still working in the White House. But for many of those who left, “the neocon welfare system” has been generous:
– Last fall, former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was named a “distinguished visiting fellow” at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, where he focuses on “issues pertaining to ideology and terror.”
– After a controversial tenure as the president of the World Bank, former Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz is a visiting scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank.
– Richard Perle, the chairman of Defense Policy Board during the run up to the Iraq war, also landed on the payroll of the American Enterprise Institute, where he is a resident fellow.
Despite their re-emergence into “polite society,” these war architects have largely refused to admit that they lied. In fact, some, like former Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Doug Feith, insist that the American people only feel misled about Iraq because “they misremember a lot.”
— from ThinkProgress
What’s this? Apophis replying during school hours?
Perhaps I should point him to the ethical behavior on the use of electronic transmission per USD 259 rules.
It’s online of course. :D
Regular and Oulander,
Even though some will jump in to correct me by saying the is a difference between climate and weather, I sure am enjoying both here this morning. It’s in the low sixties the grass and trees are lush, the air clean and clear and I’m have great difficulty being hysterical about AGW and it’s effects on the world.
The world seems to be doing just fine in my neighborhood right now and has been. I have no reason to fear anthing thing different. Bring on more of the same.
The rat barks after drinking greedily from the “cesspool”.
Oh and the poodle dances after slurping from the cesspool.
Dance poodle dance!
“Thank God I’m not a middle aged, bitter schoolteacher that only has the BLOG to look forward to each morning! Thank God my belief system isn’t so threatened that I have to attack anyone with a different opinion first thing in the morning!”
Sorry old man price, Im not quite “middle-aged” yet and definately not bitter. That is the solely a reichwing trait. Your belief system………you mean that belief in an invisible sky-god who tells you that the Earth is only 8000 years old and to hate others who don’t believe as you do? You are welcome to it, just don’t expect it to be accepted as science.
Here ’s a deal old man price, you stop posting your science denial crap first thing in the morning and I’ll stop “attacking”.
As for your lament that the “BLOG to look forward to each morning”, the same could be said for you and your war criminal (remember, he sees no difference between civilian and enemy combatant casualties in Iraq) boy.
I’m off to do some community service work……….driving retirees to doctor’s appointments.
Remember………….
DANCE POODLE DANCE!
“The government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like the state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government.” —James Madison
To bad those in Washington can’t remember the way this country was set up that has worked so well up till now.
Hee hee hee
I love it when a phrase catches on.
KSNaive reminds me of one of those annoying little yappy dogs that hides behind his master and yaps like anybody even cares.
Good post, MH.
We have to do something about the people you mention, not just for the rest of the world’s opinions, but for our own national conscience.
At least yappy dogs dont stand on their hind legs and dance around in circles like poodles…
I HAD to repond to this before I left:
Regular
Posted June 9, 2008 at 9:34 am | Permalink
What’s this? Apophis replying during school hours?
Perhaps I should point him to the ethical behavior on the use of electronic transmission per USD 259 rules.
It’s online of course.
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School has not been in session since May 22nd, moron. If if I was “posting during school hours, I have contractual “planning time” where I can do pretty much as I please. This would include acceptable internet usage. Sorry, annoying reichwingers on the WEBlog does not violate the acceptable use policy.
Like I said earlier……………MORON!
per usd 259 guidelines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5h-ZN9GgHw
schools out for summer
And ksfarmgrrl like a character out of ‘Deliverance’, you know, crude, simplistic and wary of outsiders. Like she is apparently inbred.
Dance poodle dance!
And of course Oedipus has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do but blog because he is completely UNEMPLOYABLE except to harm the education of children.
Fortunately for the kids they get a reprieve from him for a few weeks. Wonder how many parents will elect to do their kids one of the biggest favors in the world by realizing the disadvantages inherent with Oedipus involvement and instead place them in a private school come fall.
At least I’m not a lap dog dancing for treats on the end of the liberal pupppet strings.
Think he’ll flame me back?
Dance puppy, er puppet, er poodle boy, dance!
Naaaw. He’ll froth and foam at the mouth soon. Sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Guess I better get outside. The chickens are thirsty.
ksfarmgrrl Posted June 9, 2008 at 9:45 am
“At least yappy dogs dont stand on their hind legs and dance around in circles like poodles”
At least I keep my legs together under me.
Oh, and unlike most of the snake handling hillbillies in ks, I brought my gene pool WITH me. I didnt have to dip into this local one…
Hee hee hee
Ya gotta know with a “guy” like buttox, “that family tree dont fork” as they say in the South.
“At least I keep my legs together under me.”
Hee hee heee. HAHAHAHAH. Heheheheheheh.
Now who’s “crude and simplistic”?
Do you think about my girlfriend and I much? Wanna know what we did this weekend? Several times?
I’m sure your imagination can fill in the blanks.
Just another straight guy pervert. No wonder he calls everyone else a pervert.
Project much?
Jeez, no wonder buttox shares religion and politics with rick “man on dog sex” santorum.
Now I know why the boxlicker is obsessed with the sex lives of others.
Dogs like to watch, ya know?
Dance poodle dance!
Now I really have to go to work.
How about you, buttox?
Shouldnt you be out making someone in the medical/insurance/industrial complex rich?
I can assure you I don’t think of much at all about you, or of you, and if I do it is response to one of your mindless posts.
As I said you remind of an inbreed, I have little interest in that.
Two, your mind is the one in the gutter apparently. I simply meant I keep my legs under me in a stable, balanced fashion, an analogy to my thinking, instead of your distorted view of the world.
What were you thinking of?
Dance poodle dance!
See you at the meeting tonight…want to see you dance in person.
I couldn’t resist. For dog lovers everywhere
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NIon0JQXpw
Well, Wichita certainly has a dearth of record stores. However…..I found two CDs at Best Buy on Rock Road – they had a great selection! (Much better than Wal-Mart’s, even.)
Alas, they had several CDs by Cypress Hill, but not the one I wanted. But I DID find a “Best of” CD by POD that rocks without rancidity, and I also found Coldplay’s first CD (released in 2000). So, I purchased both of ‘em and slid both of ‘em into my receptive CD player, and entered Valhalla. And that was a good thang.
That was a very good thing indeed, because it kept Big Bertha occupied. And diverted. And blissful.
Thus, I wasn’t aware that Randall Terry had once again befouled our fair city. The poor little fellow evidently saw fit to hold a “press conference” at a local hotel. And gee whiz, I’m so sorry I missed it. ‘Cause I really, truly wanted to let the poor, pitiful Mr. Terry know that I couldn’t give a sheepherder’s shee-yutt about his opinions on my abortion.
“Don’t woo-wee, I do not condemn yooo,” he assured a bunch of gullible Catholic women a decade ago. “Holy crap, mutha focker, why don’t you just pat me on my noggin, powder-sugar my buttcheeks till they’re as white as snow, snap those Double-D dunce caps on real, real tight, and tell me to go impale myself in the corner ’till I’m all prayed up – and out?
D-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-ude.
I’m sorry, but his behavior compels me to be caustic. I’m sorry, but the dude shouldn’t put so many pictures of himself all over his websites. Because the pics show his face. Therefore, they make me think of a venom sac in the midst of convulsive frenzy.
But I was blissfully unaware of such arcana this weekend. I had POD, a Christian rock group who still rocks out with the best of ‘em, to light my way. I had Gwyneth Paltrow’s hubbie and his brethren calming my savaged soul. And I needed it.
Thus, I was nirvanically unaware that Mr. Terry was fertilizing our shores, the same shores he shat upon nearly 17 years ago.
Sheesh. I can’t understand women. Evidently, Terry was quite the studmeister in days gone by. Evidently, many millions found him a charismatic speaker. I’ve heard the baron of bombast belch forth, and he don’t do a thing for this snooty wench.
But good music – now that does a LOT for this distressful damsel………
That’s one jiggy poodle!
Thanks annie!
McCain Despite New All Time High Still Behind Democrats and Ron Paul
Senators Barak Obama, Hillary Clinton and John McCain all scored new all-time highs in Internet Market Share, according to the June 5, 2008 SIPP Index. However, the GOP is unable to cut into the Democrats’ greater than two to one market share, according to the Opposite Party Margin index. More important, Senator McCain is unable to gain any traction not only against the Democrats, but also against his remaining, but nominal GOP primary opponent, U.S. Rep. Ron Paul. Despite breaking above the 13% ceiling, now at 13.73% market share, McCain still trails Paul, who has a 20.11% market share. Obama, at 39.03% and Clinton at 21.81% each scored all time highs, due in large part anticipation on Clinton’s eventual departure from the Presidential stage. In the all important OPM, Obama still leads McCain 2.84 to 1.
http://reptrust.mygopsite.com/2008/06/08/mccain-despite-new-all-time-high-still-behind-democrats-and-ron-paul/
From the same link…
• If each of Obama’s donors gave him a modest $250, he’d have $375 million to spend during the two-month general election sprint. That’s $186 million a month, $47 million a week.
• During the same September to Nov. 4 period, McCain will have about $85 million to spend since he has decided to take taxpayer money to help finance his campaign activities.
• The Republican National Committee, which is charged with closing the gap between McCain and Obama, has $40 million in cash. Obama raised almost as much — $31 million — from just his small donors in the month of February. His total for the month, $57 million, exceeded the RNC’s cash balance.
• Obama has more than 1.5 million donors; McCain has a few hundred thousand. If just a million of Obama’s donors sent him the maximum donation, $2,300, he could raise $2.3 billion.
Even if Obama never reached his potential, both campaign finance experts and Democratic fundraisers say a conservative estimate of Obama’s general election fundraising potential hovers around or above $300 million. As Cummings observed: “Such a massive financial advantage will allow Obama to compete in more states than McCain and force his rival to defend states that should rightfully be Republican wins.”
Me thinks McCain is in deep doo-doo
Europe breathes a sigh of relief as Bush bids farewell
“While the leaders will be generous and polite towards a US president who has plumbed unprecedented depths of unpopularity in Europe and America, there is no doubt the overall sense will be one of “good riddance”.”
http://tinyurl.com/5xpncj
I can hardly wait until Americans have this same opportunity. I don’t plan to be generous or polite. I don’t care if the door hits him on the way out as long as he leaves.
Screwy Regulations(?)
From G.C. Telegram
Published 6/7/2008
Clarification on CO2 needed
While reading an article in the Sioux City South Dakota Journal May 25, 2008, by Dave Dreeszen, I began to realize there must be different kinds and amounts of carbon dioxide emissions that are harmful to Kansans.
Mr. Dreeszen was writing about the Hyperion Project that was at one time considering building a $10 billion refinery in Pottawatomie County. This project would have been an enormous boost to the struggling Kansas economy with $10 billion investment, and 1,500 jobs it would have created.
This refinery is going to purchase 400,000 barrels of crude oil from Alberta, Canada, and turn it into “clean-burning gasoline, diesel and jet fuel.” According to the air-quality permit for this project, Hyperion’s IGCC would eventually capture up to 90 percent of its annual 17 million tons of CO2 emissions.
This brought me back to an article in the Topeka Capital-Journal written by John Hanna on April 27, 2008, titled Oil Refiner Wary of Coming to Kansas. Mr. Hanna wrote about Hyperion Resources Inc., of Dallas locating a refinery in Kansas. Reference was made to Hyperion’s concern of KDHE denying Sunflower Electric’s permits for their Holcomb expansion because of CO2 emissions.
After Secretary Bremby’s denial of the Sunflower permit, Hyperion contacted Bill Graper, a development consultant for the Department of Commerce stating the decision was a major concern. In an Oct. 21 e-mail from Hyperion’s Preston Phillips, he acknowledged CO2 was a rising issue nationwide but said no one had rules in place to cover its capture, storage and use, and that Hyperion needed to understand where the state of Kansas is on this issue.
In a Nov. 15 communication from Deputy Commerce Secretary Steve Kelley to Ron Hammerschmidt, then-director of environment for KDHE, referred to Holcomb’s announcement creating considerable uncertainty with projects in Kansas that will produce a carbon footprint.
In January, Preston Phillips wrote a letter to Commerce Secretary David Kerr saying that Hyperion needed a commitment from KDHE that it wouldn’t delay a permit because of yet-to-be-determined guidelines on greenhouse gases.
As Mr. Hanna wrote that in a Feb. 11 letter replying to Phillips, Secretary Bremby said if Hyperion filed the same application as with South Dakota officials, it “should not present a problem” to issue a permit.
What I would like clarified: Sioux City Journal reports Hyperion’s application was for 17 million tons of CO2 emission and Sunflower’s application was for 11 million tons of CO2 emission. At what point in the geography of Kansas does CO2 become less harmful to Kansans? And at what point does it become OK to buy a product from outside Kansas and while refining it, produces CO2 in Kansas and then is transported outside the state to produce even more CO2 when burned in cars, trucks, and airplanes?
A big issue with Gov. Sebelius pertaining to Sunflower Electric is that they would be buying coal from Wyoming to produce electricity, then 85 percent of the electricity produced would be sold outside the state. Is CO2 emission produced from Canadian crude oil better than CO2 produced from Wyoming coal? The big issue I see is double standards for eastern and western Kansas.
Ron Schwartz,
http://www.gctelegram.com/Commentary/Schwartz-pulse-6-7
Apophis
Posted June 9, 2008 at 9:46 am | Permalink
I HAD to repond to this before I left:
Regular
Posted June 9, 2008 at 9:34 am | Permalink
What’s this? Apophis replying during school hours?
Perhaps I should point him to the ethical behavior on the use of electronic transmission per USD 259 rules.
It’s online of course.
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School has not been in session since May 22nd, moron. If if I was “posting during school hours, I have contractual “planning time” where I can do pretty much as I please. This would include acceptable internet usage. Sorry, annoying reichwingers on the WEBlog does not violate the acceptable use policy.
Like I said earlier……………MORON!
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Oh my bad! You’re absolutely right.
I keep forgetting teachers only do 9 months work for one year’s pay.
Iraq Assures Iran on US Base Demands
Iraq is trying to assure Iran it would not be used as a staging ground for a military attack under a long-term agreement with the United States. On Sunday, visiting Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki told Iranian officials that Iraq would not become a “platform” for harming Iran and its neighbors. The agreement would cover the status of US forces in Iraq following the expiration of its UN mandate in July. The Independent of London reported last week US officials are leveraging tens of billions of dollars in seized Iraqi assets to push through its demands. The Bush administration is seeking to permanently keep more than fifty military bases in Iraq. It’s also insisting on continuing military campaigns without consultation with the Iraqi government and immunity for American soldiers and contractors.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/9/headlines
Iraqi Lawmakers Oppose US Deal Without Withdrawal
A group of Iraqi lawmakers have released a letter showing a majority would oppose the deal if it lacked a commitment for a US withdrawal. The letter says, “The majority of Iraqi representatives strongly reject any military-security, economic, commercial, agricultural, investment or political agreement with the United States that is not linked to clear mechanisms that obligate the occupying American military forces to fully withdraw from Iraq.”
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/9/headlines
Are we getting the message here folks???
Listen to Regular, “Global warming is just to scare people into the liberal agenda.” Of what? Reducing dependence on foreign oil and conserving more? Walking instead of driving and thus losing weight as well as not polluting the planet? Recycling instead of a throw-away culture?
Yes, those damned liberals that want to destroy the American way of life!
Israel Threatens Gaza, Iran Attacks
In Israel and the Occupied Territories, Israel is threatening a new full-scale military attack on the Gaza Strip. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told reporters last week an Israeli attack is more likely than a ceasefire after Palestinian rocket fire killed an Israeli civilian. It was the eighth Israeli to die from Gaza rocket fire since Israel abandoned its Gaza settlements years ago. Israel has killed hundreds of Palestinians in Gaza and intensified the humanitarian crisis with a crippling blockade. In Gaza, Hamas spokesperson Sami Abu Zuhri called Olmert’s comments a US-backed threat.
Sami Abu Zuhri: “These threats are proof that there is a new American green light to launch a new round of Zionist war against Gaza. We take these threats seriously, but these threats will not frighten us or the Palestinian people, and we will confront it with all strength.”
Meanwhile, Israel is also escalating threats against Iran. Deputy Prime Minister Shaul Mofaz has drawn criticism for saying last week an Israeli attack would be inevitable. Mofaz said, “If Iran continues with its program for developing nuclear weapons, we will attack it. The sanctions are ineffective. Attacking Iran, in order to stop its nuclear plans, will be unavoidable.” It was the most direct threat against Iran from an Israeli official to date. In a letter to the Security Council, Iran protested Mofaz’s remarks, calling his statement a violation of the UN Charter barring the threat of force. Iran lodged the same complaint over comments by Senator Hillary Clinton last month that Iran would be “destroyed” if it attacked Israel.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/9/headlines
Sol–
The CONs didn’t invade Iraq so they could leave it alone.
We first have to defeat THEM before we can “win” in Iraq.
Which of course was your point . . . good post.
Reducing dependence on foreign oil and conserving more?
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I agree.
DRILL HERE
DRILL NOW
PAY LESS
Obama Backtracks on Jerusalem Comments
Meanwhile, Senator Barack Obama has appeared to backtrack on controversial comments on the future status of Jerusalem. Speaking last week before AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, Obama said Jerusalem must remain undivided and under Israeli control. Israel has occupied East Jerusalem since 1967, and Palestinians see it as part of any future state. In a follow-up interview with CNN, Obama said it will be up to Israelis and Palestinians to negotiate.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/9/headlines
Jesus jumped up. Someone actually gets it…
Boxlock, when it comes to guns, you’re the expert. When it comes to judging writing ability, you better leave that to others.
You wrote:
Too bad our kids must suffer such poor abilities as your’s as a teacher. It’s ‘yours.’ No possessive pronoun is followed by an apostrophe s, not his, hers, ours, theirs, or yours.
No wonder the public schools rake poorly in national tests. RATE poorly
Poor Oedipus, can’t even come up with his own derogatory term for me but must resort to one he gets from on of his other incompetent friends. ONE of his friends
And if my keeping track of his rude remarks doesn’t in fact bother him he should ask himself why the first two posts of the thread and so early in the morning is so full of hate. subject verb agreement–posts ARE so full of hate. Also, it doesn’t follow parallel structure: ‘two posts’ is a noun and the phrase following the ‘and’ has no noun.
Good Morning Oedipus. There should be a comma separating the name from ‘good morning.’
If you take the log out of your eye, Boxlock, you might be able to see the sliver in Apophis’s.
Chavez Withdraws Intelligence Overhaul, Urges FARC to End Military Struggle
In Venezuela, President Hugo Chavez has announced he’s scrapping a controversial intelligence overhaul, following widespread criticism from human rights rights groups. The rules would have apparently forced Venezuelans to spy on each other. On Sunday, Chavez said he had made a mistake.
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez: “To err is human. We made a mistake, and we have to correct the law, and we are going to correct it. And all Venezuelans have to have the security in our government and this Bolivarian state that we will never trample on the rights of Venezuelans, no matter what their politics. Never.”
Chavez went on to address fractured relations with Colombia, where he said FARC rebels should end their armed campaign against the government and release hostages.
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez: “I believe the hour has come for the FARC to release all those they are holding in the mountains. It would be a great gesture, humanitarian, in exchange for no one. I mention this now as there is a new chief to head the secretariat of the FARC, and this could be the first step toward ending the internal war in Colombia.”
Chavez’s comments came one day after Colombia said it had captured two Venezuelans it accused of carrying arms shipments to FARC rebels.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/9/headlines
Hugo FREAKIN Chavez gets it. Why can’t the GOP?
Pentagon Accused of Ordering Destruction of Interrogation Instructions
At Guantanamo Bay, a military attorney for the Canadian prisoner Omar Khadr is accusing the Pentagon of ordering interrogators to destroy notes in case they were called to testify on treatment of prisoners. The lawyer, Lt. Cmdr. William Kuebler, said the instructions were discovered in a Pentagon “Standard Operating Procedures” manual last week. Khadr has been held in US captivity since he was fifteen years old.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/9/headlines
But yeah, it’s not torture…
US Holds $50 Billion of Iraq’s Financial Reserves Hostage
The Independent of London reports the United States is holding hostage some $50 billion of Iraq’s money in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York to pressure the Iraqi government into signing an agreement to prolong the US occupation indefinitely. Patrick Cockburn reports the Federal Reserve continues to hold Iraq’s financial reserves as a legacy of the international sanctions against Saddam Hussein. US negotiators are threatening to remove tens of billions of dollars of Iraq’s money to settle outstanding court judgments dating back to the 1980s unless Iraq accepts the highly controversial military deal. The deal would allow the US to permanently keep more than fifty military bases in Iraq. American forces would also be able to continue to carry out arrests of Iraqi citizens and conduct military campaigns without consultation with the Iraqi government. American soldiers and contractors will enjoy legal immunity.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/6/headlines
unfreakin real…
Here’s a clue Crapn. Life goes on with or without grammar, spelling and edit correction. In fact, if every diseased-ridden-English-word-jockey were to die tomorrow, no one would miss them.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Arraigned for 9/11 Attacks
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four others prisoners at Guantantamo were arraigned Thursday before a military commission. The arraignment was the first time the alleged 9/11 mastermind had been seen or heard publicly since he was captured in Pakistan in 2003. Mohammed refused legal representation and said he welcomed the death penalty. Defense lawyers said they will challenge any attempt to introduce evidence tainted by torture, but Army Major Jon Jackson said they may not get that chance if the defendants represent themselves.
Army Major Jon Jackson: “What you saw today in that courtroom, commission room, was not justice; it was ridiculous. And the reason I say that is because of what happened with my client, specifically.”
Prosecuting attorney Lawrence Morris praised the commission process.
Lawrence Morris: “As you continue to see, the military commission’s process is an orderly, fair, open legal system, remarkably similar to other trials in United States courts. The prosecution team will continue to work diligently to bring all cases to trial in a fair and expeditious manner consistent with the best practices in both civilian and military courts.”
Prosecutors want to start the trial on September 15, a date defense attorneys say was chosen to influence the November presidential election
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/6/headlines
Regular wrote: “I keep forgetting teachers only do 9 months work for one year’s pay.”
How much work do you do for your pay, Regular?
Uhh . . . that’d be absolutely nothing. But you’re in good company. John McCain draws 58,000 taxpayer dollars a year for ‘disability pay,’ even though his wife is an heiress with tens of millions behind her.
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By the way, public school teachers “don’t get paid for a year for working 9 months.” They get paid for 9 months.
what would happen if teachers were on a 12 month contract? Their pay would increase by 25 percent to reflect the extra months worked. Most teachers I know would opt for the extra money and less time off (this is the Bush economy after all).
But budget constraints and tradition don’t allow it.
Jailed Afghan Journalist Sues US Over Detention
The family of an Afghan journalist has sued the Bush administration for illegally detaining him in Afghanistan for more than six months without charge. Jawed Ahmad is a cameraman for Canadian CTV. He has been detained at a NATO airbase since October. Since the recent release of Sami al-Haj and Bilal Hussein, Ahmad is the only known journalist being held by the US military.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/6/headlines
SolDevVB
Posted June 9, 2008 at 11:21 am | Permalink
Pentagon Accused of Ordering Destruction of Interrogation Instructions
At Guantanamo Bay, a military attorney for the Canadian prisoner Omar Khadr is accusing the Pentagon of ordering interrogators to destroy notes in case they were called to testify on treatment of prisoners. The lawyer, Lt. Cmdr. William Kuebler, said the instructions were discovered in a Pentagon “Standard Operating Procedures” manual last week. Khadr has been held in US captivity since he was fifteen years old.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/9/headlines
But yeah, it’s not torture…
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Why would anyone keep notes during an interrogation unless the prisoner had something productive to say?
I mean imagine your basic Al Qaeda torture camp, threatening to cut your head off, kicking you in the nads and generally using your body as a punching bag.
Do you think they have a stenographer in the corner recording nad punching and eye gouging?
The prosecutor said, “the military commission’s process is an orderly, fair, open legal system, remarkably similar to other trials in United States courts.”
In other words, we’ll give him a fair trial before we hang him.
D.C. Police Set Up Neighborhood Checkpoints
The Washington Examiner reports police in Washington, D.C. plan to begin sealing off entire neighborhoods, setting up checkpoints and kicking out strangers, under a new program to combat violence. Under a directive issued by Police Chief Cathy Lanier, officers will stop cars at the checkpoints, record all license plate numbers and ask drivers why they are visiting the neighborhood. The directive allows officers to turn away anyone who does not have a legitimate reason for entering the neighborhood. Motorists who resist answering questions from police officers will be arrested for failure to obey an officer. D.C. Councilman Harry Thomas said he is worried Washington, D.C. is “moving towards a police state.”
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/6/headlines
CapnAmerica
Posted June 9, 2008 at 11:26 am | Permalink
Regular wrote: “I keep forgetting teachers only do 9 months work for one year’s pay.”
How much work do you do for your pay, Regular?
Uhh . . . that’d be absolutely nothing. But you’re in good company. John McCain draws 58,000 taxpayer dollars a year for ‘disability pay,’ even though his wife is an heiress with tens of millions behind her.
*****
By the way, public school teachers “don’t get paid for a year for working 9 months.” They get paid for 9 months.
what would happen if teachers were on a 12 month contract? Their pay would increase by 25 percent to reflect the extra months worked. Most teachers I know would opt for the extra money and less time off (this is the Bush economy after all).
But budget constraints and tradition don’t allow it.
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Oh, well since they aren’t working during the summer, let’s stop any payments and no health care insurance access.
Jury Awards Bush Protesters $750,000 for Illegal Strip Search
A jury in Iowa has awarded two protesters $750,000 for being inappropriately strip-searched after demonstrating at a President Bush campaign rally in 2004. The women were arrested by the Secret Service and then strip-searched at a county jail.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/6/headlines
Wonder where the money will come from…
St. Paul Police Arrest Protester at Obama Rally for Leafleting
And in news from here in the Twin Cities, the St. Paul Police Department is coming under criticism for arresting an antiwar organizer outside the Barack Obama campaign rally on Tuesday. Fifty-year-old Mick Kelly was detained as he was handing out leaflets promoting a September 1 march on the Republican National Convention. The American Civil Liberties Union of Minnesota said Kelly’s arrest does not bode well for the way St. Paul authorities will treat protesters during this summer’s convention. St. Paul police say they plan to apologize to Kelly and dismiss the charges.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/6/headlines
Regular writes: “Life goes on with or without grammar, spelling and edit correction. In fact, if every diseased-ridden-English-word-jockey were to die tomorrow, no one would miss them.”
True enough. However, Boxlock’s point was that Apophis’s writing skills were poor. So, that naturally invited a look at Boxlock’s apparently “excellent” writing skills by comparision.
But you already knew that.
BTW, for someone who is actually disease-ridden, you might not want to throw that term around a mark of opprobrium.
Correction: “as a mark”
Last week McCain handed out his health records, well, a few of them, for a couple hours, with no means of making copies. He wants to leave the impression that he’s fit enough to hold office.
Yet he draws $58,000 a year from the government for being “permanently disabled”. Either he should admit he’s disabled or stop getting the handouts from the government (which he opposes unless he gets them himself apparently).
“Regular,” reduced once again to juvenile name-calling, shares –
“…clue Crapn. Life goes on with or without grammar, spelling and edit correction. In fact, if every diseased-ridden-English-word-jockey were to die tomorrow, no one would miss them.”
Perhaps “Boxlock” should have checked his post before he attacked a school teacher for incompetence. It makes him look as foolish as you when you disparage educators’ work ethic.
Sorry to have been reminded of your past injuries and long recuperation. Where you injured as badly as Carol McCain?
Grumbling Clinton supporters make Democrats nervous
WASHINGTON (CNN) — While Sen. Hillary Clinton was endorsing Sen. Barack Obama, some of those weighing in on her campaign Web site were less willing to concede.
Sen. Hillary Clinton has endorsed Sen. Barack Obama, but some supporters are not willing to embrace him.
1 of 2 As Clinton wrapped up her remarks Saturday in Washington with a plea for supporters to work “as hard for Barack Obama as you have for me,” many were posting messages saying they would never vote for the presumptive Democratic nominee. A few even called on her backers to visit Sen. John McCain’s campaign Web site.
“I love her and will vote for her in 2012, but it’s McCain all the way now,” wrote one within moments of the former first lady’s address.
Whether that sort of statement signals a defection to the presumptive Republican nominee, a voter less likely to make it to the polls on Election Day or just a bit of low-grade, post-primary grumbling — it’s the sort of sentiment that makes for a nagging, low-grade anxiety among nervous Democrats and brings a gleam to the eye of McCain.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/09/clinton.supporters/index.html
I think we have seen some of that here…
“Oh, well since they [public school teachers] aren’t working during the summer, let’s stop any payments.”
Actually, school teachers have the option of getting their 9-month’s pay over 9 months or 12 months.
The fact that most teachers opt for budgetting reasons to have their 9-month contract paid over 12 months in no way negates the fact that they are only paid for 9-month’s work.
That’s why teachers who work for the school during summer months, such as driver’s ed teachers, get paid extra. It’s work over and above their 9 month contract.
Duh.
Government unveils world’s fastest computer
WASHINGTON (AP) — Scientists at the Los Alamos government weapons lab have built the world’s fastest computer, capable of sustaining 1,000 trillion operations per second.
Scientists at the Los Alamos National Laboratory and IBM worked on the computer for years.
The Energy Department and IBM Corp. announced the breakthrough Monday.
The computer will be used to help maintain the nation’s nuclear weapons stockpile.
Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman says the new computer, named Roadrunner, also will be used to help solve global energy problems and “open new windows of knowledge” in basic research.
The Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico and IBM worked for six years to achieve the world record computer speed.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/06/09/fastest.computer.ap/index.html
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Maggotpunk
Posted June 9, 2008 at 11:39 am | Permalink
Last week McCain handed out his health records, well, a few of them, for a couple hours, with no means of making copies. He wants to leave the impression that he’s fit enough to hold office.
Yet he draws $58,000 a year from the government for being “permanently disabled”. Either he should admit he’s disabled or stop getting the handouts from the government (which he opposes unless he gets them himself apparently).
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Perhaps Maggie, you should go get tortured for 5 years by the Viet Cong. Then you would be in a position to comment about whether the $58,000 is excessive.
Or you could just continue to talk out your butt.
I love it. John McCain is a “welfare queen”–out on the campaign trail 18 hours a day while collecting more money in “disability pay” than most Americans make having to actually work for it.
Maybe he can buy himself a used Caddy and a color TV. Then we can get just as outraged as we do at that minority woman in Mississippi who claims an extra child she doesn’t have for food stamps . . .
Iran’s Supreme Leader: U.S. Military Presence is Iraq’s Main Problem
TEHRAN, Iran — Iran’s supreme leader told Iraq’s prime minister that the U.S. military presence is the main cause of Iraq’s problems.
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is in Tehran for three days of meetings, including one Monday with Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
The meetings have focused on a proposed security agreement between Iraq and the U.S.
On Monday, Khamenei made clear his opposition to the pact.
Iran’s state television quoted Khamenei as telling al-Maliki that Iraqis have to “think of a solution to free” themselves from the U.S. military.
Khamenei told him that “a foreign element” will gradually come to dominate all aspects of life in Iraq and become an obstacle to progress and prosperity.
Al-Maliki has been trying to persuade Iranian leaders to back off their fierce opposition to the proposed security agreement. He has promised that Iraq will not be used as a launching pad for any attack on Iran.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,364441,00.html
outlander–
Torture is bad. However, if McCain is “disabled,” why can he still work.
Disability pay isn’t supposed to be a reward for surviving a bad experience. It’s government compensation for not being able to work and earn a living.
Maybe McCain should take Regular’s advice about torture
“Regular
Posted June 9, 2008 at 8:01 am | Permalink
My advice – quit your bitchin’- get on with life.”
Sol – good news links. Iran has good reason to fear a US-dominated Iraq next door. I’m sure they have vivid memories of the US-backed invasion of their country by Irsq under US ally Saddam Hussein.
Sorry, BTH. IOKIYAR.
Only the “little people” have to get over it.
It’s only the “common herd” who suffer the discipline of the marketplace.
Rich Republicans get paid in cash, thank you very much.
Living in Bush’s America is like torture for me–the lying, the spying, the stupid decisions, all done in my name.
Maybe I should get a taxpayer-funded “disability” for mental distress.
outlander suggests: “go get tortured for 5 years by the Viet Cong. Then you would be in a position to comment about whether the $58,000 is excessive.”
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There are many payers of disability who hire investigators to catch those who abuse disability payments.
Much has been said about McCain’s vigor, strength, vitality in keeping to the rigors of the campaign trail.
Maybe much should be asked about whether he is disabled. Disabled to do what? Obviously not so disabled that he couldn’t perform the functions of many jobs.
And btw, what in the world does being tortured bring to the table as a qualification for POTUS? Everyone is thankful McCain survived those atrocities, but most of us see that doesn’t equal any sort of qualification for any job.
Every campaign has a theme song. FDR’s was “Happy Days Are Here Again.”
This one should be McCain’s:
MONEY Roy Orbison
They say the best things in life are free
But you can give them to the birds and bees.
I want MONEY.
That’s what I want.
I want MU-O-ON-EY.
MONEY’s what I want.
Money can’t buy everything it’s true.
But what it can’t buy, I can’t use.
CHORUS
Loving may give you such a thrill.
But loving never ever gonna pay my bills.
CHORUS
Who has said anything about McCain being tortured as a prisoner of war being qualifications for being President besides the Democrits?
Answer: No one but the Democrits have brought this up.
I like to see the Crapn in a mock POW camp. I bet he would break down and cry like a baby in training conditions.
Because only sissies wrestle at Big 10 colleges, right, Reg?
Proving manliness was never a big concern of mine.
One wonders why it’s such a perennial issue with the reich-wing?
Hey, what meeting is tonight????
“CapnAmerica” –
This one should be McCain’s:
MONEY Roy Orbison
Orbison might have covered “Money (That’s What I Want),” but was a 1959 hit single by Barrett Strong for the Tamla label, distributed by Anna Records. The song was written by Tamla founder Berry Gordy and Janie Bradford, and would become the first hit record for Gordy’s Motown flagship label.
“Perhaps Maggie, you should go get tortured for 5 years by the Viet Cong. Then you would be in a position to comment about whether the $58,000 is excessive.
Or you could just continue to talk out your butt.”
McCain doesn’t have a problem with torture, he voted that it’s okay that the CIA tortures people. He does have a problem with handouts. McCain is against universal health care but has no problem getting his own even when he is so vastly wealthy he doesn’t need to rely on welfare. Yet when it came to poor children getting health care he thumbed his nose at them.
So is McCain healthy enough to be President or is Madman McCain permanently disabled?
I always love that liberal Hypocrisy!
One day you are all using the troops mental health to be against the war as if you actually care.
Today you are attacking McCain for recieving disability.
Liberals, they claim to support the troops to be politically correct, not because they actually do.
No, I’m attacking McCain’s dishonesty. He tells the Navy he’s permanently disabled but tells the public that he’s in perfect health. I’m just trying to figure out which one it is.
McCain has no problem with getting rid of social security so others can’t get benefits for being permanently disabled but McCain has no problem accepting the checks.
You are correct Linda in that being tortured doesn’t present a qualification. I would think it brings more credibility to the Commander in Chief role than some draft dodger like Dubya.
Exactly, MP.
How does one get to draw “disability” (meaning “I can’t work”) and then get to run for effing president.
I don’t think FDR collected “disability” for getting polio . . .
TITLE 38–PENSIONS, BONUSES, AND VETERANS’ RELIEF
CHAPTER I–DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS
Total disability will be considered to exist when there is present any impairment of mind or body which is sufficient to render it impossible for the average person to follow a substantially gainful occupation; Provided, That permanent total disability shall be taken to exist when the impairment is reasonably certain to continue throughout the life of the disabled person. The following will be considered to be permanent total disability: the permanent loss of the use of both hands, or of both feet, or of one hand and one foot, or of the sight of both eyes, or becoming permanently helpless or permanently bedridden.
Yet McCain has been able to hold a job just fine and even brags about hiking the Grand Canyon. Isn’t it about time he stop lying to the Navy and stop ripping off the taxpayers?
Ah ha! Thanks for the correction, MonkeyH.
I didn’t think that sounded like one of his. No soaring high tenor . . .
CapnAmerica
Posted June 9, 2008 at 11:43 am | Permalink
“Oh, well since they [public school teachers] aren’t working during the summer, let’s stop any payments.”
Actually, school teachers have the option of getting their 9-month’s pay over 9 months or 12 months.
The fact that most teachers opt for budgetting reasons to have their 9-month contract paid over 12 months in no way negates the fact that they are only paid for 9-month’s work.
That’s why teachers who work for the school during summer months, such as driver’s ed teachers, get paid extra. It’s work over and above their 9 month contract.
Duh.
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Why can teachers not get unemployment compensation during the summer months they are not working?
And speaking of hypocrisy, a minority mom with six kids who works and draws unemployment is a “welfare queen” and should be thrown into debtor’s prison according to the CONs.
But a rich Senator married to a near-billionare drawing tax-payer funded “disability.”
Nope, nothing to see here. Welfare-for-the-rich isn’t welfare, to CONs. It’s business-as-usual.
I’ve received a lot of flak for my legitimate concern about “Nathaniel’s” mental health. Unlike the CONservative magpies, I see no stigma to mental illness, anymore than there’d be a stigma attached to wondering if someone might have tonsillitis.
Today I read this story in Newsweek:
As an internist at New York’s Mount Sinai Hospital, Dr. Stephanie Santos is used to finding odd things in people’s stomachs. So last spring when a young man, identifying himself as an Iraq-bound soldier, said he had accidentally swallowed a pen at the bus station, she believed him. That is, until she found a second pen. It read 1-800-GREYHOUND. Last summer, according to published reports, a 20-year-old Bronx soldier paid a hit man $500 to shoot him in the knee on the day he was scheduled to return to Iraq. The year before that, a 24-year-old specialist from Washington state escaped a second tour of duty, according to his sister, by strapping on a backpack full of tools and leaping off the roof of his house, injuring his spine.
Soldiers have long used self-harm as a rip cord to avoid war. During World War I, The American Journal of Psychiatry reported “epidemics of self-inflicted injuries,” hospital wards filled with men shot in a single finger or toe, as well as cases of pulled-out teeth, punctured eardrums and slashed Achilles’ heels. Few doubt that the Korean and Vietnam wars were any different. But the current war—fought with an overtaxed volunteer Army—may be the worst. “We’re definitely concerned,” says Ritchie. “We hope they’ll talk to us rather than self-harm.”
Then again, the Marines apparently don’t want “Nathaniel” back in active duty.
Political_mama
Posted June 9, 2008 at 12:21 pm | Permalink
Hey, what meeting is tonight????
The BOE meeting where Boxlicker is going to poodle dance for all of us.
“Why can teachers not get unemployment compensation during the summer months they are not working?”
Maybe for the same reason that seasonal farm workers picking tomatoes can’t get unemployment insurance when crops don’t grow.
And let’s see, Right Angle . . . you’re very successful genius son graduated from the public school system, correct?
So, your complaint against the public schools is what exactly?
OOps, “your,” not you’re
Reguliar (like most Repubes) must not think people have a right to organize into unions and NEGOTIATE their terms of employment.
Course somebody like Reguliar that gets his welfare check wouldn’t understand union negotiation or w o r k for that matter.
That’s not fair, KansasNative.
Regular understands work all too well. He understands he doesn’t want to do it . . .
McCain gets full disability because he was tortured to the point of where he can no longer raise his arms above his head.
He no longer has full mobility with his arms.
You liberals have no idea how disability works, just another way to show how much you support the troops by attacking someone who was tortured and now receives disability for the permenant loss of mobility he has….
Pigs.
I don’t have a problem with McCain drawing disability. I have a problem with his position against Webb on the new GI Bill.
LLTVET,
Most of the reasons why the Republicans were against the GI Bill were because the Democrats wanted to raise taxes on a certain class of people to pay for it.
The Republicans introduced their own bill to increase GI Bill benefits.
You Democrats are just using this as a political beating stick regardless of the truth.
Okay, so McCain won’t have a career in basketball so he is permanently disabled. Yet McCain has no problem with wounded soldiers, and some with severe brain injuries being returned to Iraq to fight for oil.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/19/national/main3731718.shtml
I’m sure they wish there were disabled like McCain so they could sit at home with a trophy wife waiting for the fat welfare check to arrive.
Also,
The Republican version wouldn’t have to wait for different state living wages and could be implemented much sooner.
The Republicans support GI Bill benefits, just not the way the Democrats were pushing.
“the Democrats wanted to raise taxes on a certain class of people”
Would that be the people most able to afford it and who benefit the most from our military actions?
Why, yes it would.
Can’t have rich people actually paying more for anything. Why, that would be un-Republican!
Nathan, how can you say there is a Republican version of the GI bill when a lot of Republicans voted for the Webb bill?
MaggotPunk,
Could you please show me where McCain supported sending wounded soldiers back to Iraq?
I am guessing you are just talking out of your rear end like usual.
Maggotpunk,
Becuase there is a Republican version.
Idiot.
CapnAmerica
Posted June 9, 2008 at 12:17 pm | Permalink
Because only sissies wrestle at Big 10 colleges, right, Reg?
Proving manliness was never a big concern of mine.
One wonders why it’s such a perennial issue with the reich-wing?
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Never had been impressed with wrestlers. After a 200 pound former Oklahoma State wrestler took me on. Not only couldn’t he throw me, I picked him up and slammed him to the ground. He gave up. :D
Nathaniel: Stop the paranoia. I am not using this as a beating stick for anything.
McCain has almost won back my vote by finally having a pair and telling Billy Graham: NO THANKS.
Also, you know good and well the initial reason why Dubya was against it was because it would hurt retention. McCain should have given Dubya the bird and worked out something else.
Webb is NO LIBERAL unless you think Reagan had a liberal as his Secretary of the Navy. You are a veteran to. You should know better than that.
Nathan–
Let’s play your game–except in reverse.
Prove that MaggotPunk ever made a statement of provable fact that was proven false.
Since you claim that he does this “like usual,” it shouldn’t be hard for you to back up that assertion.
Or you can just admit you were wrong.
Either alternative is acceptable.
KansasNative
Posted June 9, 2008 at 12:53 pm | Permalink
Reguliar (like most Repubes) must not think people have a right to organize into unions and NEGOTIATE their terms of employment.
Course somebody like Reguliar that gets his welfare check wouldn’t understand union negotiation or w o r k for that matter.
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Well KansasNaive,
Since we’re on a first name slam basis, I used to belong to the Engineer and Boilermaker Union back in the day on my short stint with the Railroad as a Hostler Helper. Not only did I have to pay 50 bucks a month (a lot of money back then) for Union dues, after 3 months I got canned because I was low man on the totem pole because of a strike in another Union that worked for the railroad. So, some recently lost his job carmen, bumped somebody who bumped somebody and so on, till it got to me.
Yeah Unions…
Lets review this wonderful liberal support for the troops:
-We have Mary saying she doesn’t owe me or anyone else thanks because we are serving in an immoral and unethical war.
-We have MonkeyHawk constantly wondering why I am not back in Iraq and questioning my mental health. (Even though they say they don’t want to send the troops back they sit here wondering why someone isn’t there)
-We have Maggotpunk, CapnAmerica, and MonkeyHawk all attacking McCain for his disability.
So liberals, do you agree with your compadres here?
Is this your support for the troops?
The Webb bill passed with 75 votes, 22 voted against. Hmmm. There were a lot of Republican co-sponsors like Hagel and Warner. Sounds more like a bipartisan bill rather than a Democratic bill. I suppose what you mean by Republican is those who hate veterans, yourself included.
oops, make that firemen and boilermaker union…
CapnAmerica,
I am still waiting for Maggotpunk to prove that Bush was AWOL for a year as he claimed yesterday.
“Could you please show me where McCain supported sending wounded soldiers back to Iraq?”
Oh that’s right, McCain is now the anti-war candidate. My mistake. Yup, McCain has always been opposed to the illegal occupation and Oceania has never been at war with Eurasia.
Bullsh!t, Regular.
Total and complete BS.
A trained wrestler competing against an amateur like you would beat you like a rented mule.
I can’t tell you the number of times in high school and college when some big mouth would feel the need to test me and I’d end up throwing the SOB around like a rag doll.
I was helping coach a bunch of big, untrained high schoolers who started lipping off about why should they listen to “an old guy like me” and I body slammed two of them to the mat in two seconds with a fireman’s carry, threw another kid off the mat with a Japanese whizzer. The last two I couldn’t catch . . .
“I am still waiting for Maggotpunk to prove that Bush was AWOL for a year as he claimed yesterday.”
I can only beat a retarded horse on a single issue for so long. Everyone else knows it, but the single retarded individual (okay, you are probably one of the people with brain trauma, in that case I shouldn’t make fun of your mental retardation) who can’t read.
Maggotpunk,
So when you liberals constantly say the Republicans don’t support the GI Bill increase who are you talking about then?
On one day you say it was a bipartisan bill and that Republicans support it, on the next day you are using it to say that Republicans don’t support it.
“We have Mary saying she doesn’t owe me or anyone else thanks because we are serving in an immoral and unethical war.”
I agree with Mary. American invading Iraq and slaughtering unarmed civilians merely because they live in a country with a lot of oil is nothing to applaud. I suppose we are supposed to cheer like the Soviets were supposed to cheer when they invaded Finland against their will to liberate them from invisible fascists.
There’s never a need to congratulate war crimes.
CapnAmerica
Posted June 9, 2008 at 1:19 pm | Permalink
Bullsh!t, Regular.
Total and complete BS.
A trained wrestler competing against an amateur like you would beat you like a rented mule.
I can’t tell you the number of times in high school and college when some big mouth would feel the need to test me and I’d end up throwing the SOB around like a rag doll.
I was helping coach a bunch of big, untrained high schoolers who started lipping off about why should they listen to “an old guy like me” and I body slammed two of them to the mat in two seconds with a fireman’s carry, threw another kid off the mat with a Japanese whizzer. The last two I couldn’t catch . . .
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Yeah okay. He was trying to wrestle me and didn’t know the least thing about fighting. I was also trained in Tae Kwon Do and knew how to maintain balance. It was a piece of cake.
Besides, he never met a 230 pounder who could do one handed finger tip push ups. :)
“So when you liberals constantly say the Republicans don’t support the GI Bill increase who are you talking about then?”
That would be the Republican leadership, Bush and McSame. The two heads of the Republican party and two people who hate the military and veterans.
The commander at the base in Alabama where Bush was supposed to show up said he never saw him. Somebody put up a 100,000 dollar award if they could prove they served with Bush on the Alabama base that he was reassigned to. No one ever collected that bet.
This doesn’t PROVE that Bush was AWOL to someone like you, Nathan, someone who believes what they want to believe and refuses to believe what they don’t want to believe.
But it is very good evidence that Bush was AWOL.
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Remember, you said that MaggotP makes up facts “like usual.”
What you gave was not an acceptable answer. Try again or admit you were wrong.
It was only a matter of time before some of the liberals started to show their disdain for the military. Only a matter of time.
Before they spit on the military.
Capn,
Nathan’s mantra is that I lie and make up facts yet I always back them up, yet he continues to repeat his claim. The poor kid is mentally retarded. I gotta wonder where he gets his information from because someone has to work hard to keep so uninformed.
LLTVET
Posted June 9, 2008 at 1:12 pm | Permalink
McCain has almost won back my vote by finally having a pair and telling Billy Graham: NO THANKS
====================================================Better not vote for McCain—-LLTVET
McCain Campaign Says Story Rejecting Billy Graham Meeting Not True
June 9, 2008
CapnAmerica,
Admit I was wrong on what?
Why didn’t you ever admit that you broke our deal all those times I brought it up?
Idiot.
Dubya didn’t need to go awol to lose my respect. He used daddy’s influence to get out of going to the war just like any other draft-dodger. He is just a smidgen better than Bill Clinton in that regard.
Maggotpunk,
Were is your proof or facts or evidence that McCain supports sending wounded soldiers back to Iraq.
Lets see it.
Maggotpunk,
The “Republican leadership” you talked about support the Republican version of the GI Bill.
They neither hate the military or veterans.
Yet another comment where you are talking out of your rear end.
Article 86, Uniform Code of Military Justice.
“Any member of the armed forces who, without authority—
(1) fails to go to his appointed place of duty at the time prescribed;
(2) goes from that place; or
(3) absents himself or remains absent from his unit, organization, or place of duty at which he is required to be at the time prescribed; shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”
Elements: These are the specifics of the offense. In order to support a finding of “guilty,” the government must prove each and every element of the offense, beyond a reasonable doubt.
(1) Failure to go to appointed place of duty.
(a) That a certain authority appointed a certain time and place of duty for the accused;
(b) That the accused knew of that time and place; and
(c) That the accused, without authority, failed to go to the appointed place of duty at the time prescribed.
(2) Going from appointed place of duty.
(a) That a certain authority appointed a certain time and place of duty for the accused;
(b) That the accused knew of that time and place; and
(c) That the accused, without authority, went from the appointed place of duty after having reported at such place.
(3) Absence from unit, organization, or place of duty.
(a) That the accused absented himself or her-self from his or her unit, organization, or place of duty at which he or she was required to be;
(b) That the absence was without authority from anyone competent to give him or her leave; and
(c) That the absence was for a certain period of time. Note: if the absence was terminated by apprehension, add the following element
(d) That the absence was terminated by apprehension.
(4) Abandoning watch or guard.
(a) That the accused was a member of a guard, watch, or duty;
(b) That the accused absented himself or her-self from his or her guard, watch, or duty section;
(c) That absence of the accused was without authority; and Note: If the absence was with intent to abandon the accused’s guard, watch, or duty section, add the following element
(d) That the accused intended to abandon his or her guard, watch, or duty section.
(5) Absence from unit, organization, or place of duty with intent to avoid maneuvers or field exercises.
(a) That the accused absented himself or herself from his or her unit, organization, or place of duty at which he or she was required to be;
(b) That the absence of the accused was with-out authority;
(c) That the absence was for a certain period of time;
(d) That the accused knew that the absence would occur during a part of a period of maneuvers or field exercises; and
(e) That the accused intended to avoid all or part of a period of maneuvers or field exercises.
(1) In general. This article is designed to cover every case not elsewhere provided for in which any member of the armed forces is through the member’s own fault not at the place where the member is required to be at a prescribed time. It is not necessary that the person be absent entirely from military jurisdiction and control. The first part of this article—relating to the appointed place of duty—applies whether the place is appointed as a rendezvous for several or for one only.
(2) Actual knowledge. The offenses of failure to go to and going from appointed place of duty require proof that the accused actually knew of the appointed time and place of duty. The offense of absence from unit, organization, or place of duty with intent to avoid maneuvers or field exercises requires proof that the accused actually knew that the absence would occur during a part of a period of maneuvers or field exercises. Actual knowledge may be proved by circumstantial evidence.
(3) Intent. Specific intent is not an element of unauthorized absence. Specific intent is an element for certain aggravated unauthorized absences.
(4) Aggravated forms of unauthorized absence. There are variations of unauthorized absence under Article 86(3) which are more serious because of aggravating circumstances such as duration of the absence, a special type of duty from which the accused absents himself or herself, and a particular specific intent which accompanies the absence. These circumstances are not essential elements of a violation of Article 86. They simply constitute special matters in aggravation. The following are aggravated unauthorized absences:
(a) Unauthorized absence for more than 3 days (duration).
(b) Unauthorized absence for more than 30 days (duration).
(c) Unauthorized absence from a guard, watch, or duty (special type of duty).
(d) Unauthorized absence from guard, watch, or duty section with the intent to abandon it (special type of duty and specific intent).
(e) Unauthorized absence with the intent to avoid maneuvers or field exercises (special type of duty and specific intent).
Of course, anyone can accuse ANYone of being AWOL. Means nothing.
Were charges preferred? Did the Commanding Officer or subordinate “CHARGE” Bush with violation of Article 86?
No?
Well, then it’s just someone running their suck again.
Nathan, bs, I have far more disabling effects from my spine, and yet I CAN”T DRAW DISABILITY. And you have GOT to be kidding me that McCain can’t work! What do you think he’s doing? AND he has millions! I couldn’t survive the stamina it would take to do that. Perhaps right now since I’ve gotten treatment. Do you realize had they put me on disability years ago, I would have gotten that darn treatment THEN so I could had worked????????
Nathan, if it’s news to you that McCain supports the illegal Iraqi occupation then you are truly hopeless.
Thanks for the update Right Angle. He still has a ways to go to earn back my vote now.
As far as “not being impressed with wrestlers,” you might note that when extreme fighting first started–probably the closest thing there is to an actual no-holds barred fight, quite a few of the champions were former college wrestlers.
As Wiki points out, “in the early 1990s, three styles stood out for their effectiveness in competition: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, amateur wrestling and shoot [real, not show, professional] wrestling.”
“The piece in Newsmax is false. Our campaign has been working directly with Reverend Franklin Graham’s office to facilitate an important meeting between John McCain and Reverend Billy Graham. The report’s implication that we have ‘declined to meet with Billy Graham’ is blatantly false, because our campaign has already been working directly with Franklin Graham’s office and politely declined Mr. Jacobs’ offer to help facilitate a meeting. John McCain has the highest respect for Reverend Billy Graham and looks forward to meeting with him in the future.”
http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/389329.aspx
So who knows??
One day McCain is pandering to the RR, another he isn’t.
Has he asked bush what he is supposed to be thinking and doing today? He seems a little confused.
“The “Republican leadership” you talked about support the Republican version of the GI Bill.
They neither hate the military or veterans.”
I already said Bush and McSame support the watered down bill. The Democrats and Republicans drew up a GI bill that provided increased education benefits and a few anti-veteran Republicans came up with an alternative that would reduce the amount of benefits the veterans would have received.
Try to keep up with current events. Dealing with your mental retardation is tiresome.
CapnAmerica,
Someone not collecting a reward is not proof that Bush was AWOL for a year.
If Bush was AWOL for a year, why was he getting dental treatment there?
If Bush was AWOL for a year, why was he getting paid and retriement points?
CapnAmerica
Posted June 9, 2008 at 1:35 pm | Permalink
As far as “not being impressed with wrestlers,” you might note that when extreme fighting first started–probably the closest thing there is to an actual no-holds barred fight, quite a few of the champions were former college wrestlers.
As Wiki points out, “in the early 1990s, three styles stood out for their effectiveness in competition: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, amateur wrestling and shoot [real, not show, professional] wrestling.”
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I’ve watched a few MMA fights, looks tough, but wondering how it would compare to full contact karate.
There is no slowness when you are attacked. You counter, then strike, then take control.
BTW, after an overhand forearm throw, I made him submit with a fingertip neck pressure technique. He was complaining about the discomfort for a week afterwards.
I was going to kick him in the face, but he had such a wonderfully large nose and I didn’t want to break it. :D
Politicalmama,
We are talking about VA Disability.
Are you a veteran who was wounded either in your service to your country or in war?
The only BS here is you and the other liberals (Who claim to support the troops) attacking a wounded veteran who was tortured and lost mobility in his arms permenantly for receiving disability.
McCluer, a legend only in his own mind.
And the list of “stories” grows daily.
Maggotpunk,
Both bills increase benefits to the troops.
Only some political hack like you would say that the Republicans don’t support increasing the GI Bill when in fact they do.
Idiot.
Maggotpunk,
Supporting the war in Iraq doesn’t mean you support a particular Army decision to send wounded soldiers back to Iraq.
Show me where McCain supported that decision as you claimed he did.
You can’t.
You are an idiot.
“McCluer, a legend only in his own mind.
And the list of “stories” grows daily.”
I’ll second that- he’s been everywhere, done everything , knows everything- it’s Forrest Chump!
I wonder if he has the patent on BS?
McCain made 32 propaganda videos for the NVA?
http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=IlX9l1g1ZE0&rel=1&eurl=http%3A//
I tire of your retardation Nathan.
Why write a bill concerning the GI bill if one has already been written? The first bill has a great number of benefits, the second one reduces them.
In your world if the Democrats are giving a veteran a dollar then you consider that a bad thing. What you prefer is McSame’s plan which cuts that dollar in half. Then you can brag about how much McSame is giving the veterans since he’s providing a half of a dollar bill.
If McBush supported the veterans then he would have just gone along with the majority of the Senate and voted for the original bill. But noooo, he wanted to short change veterans by telling them that they didn’t deserve all those benefits.
It’s not like McBush proposed a GI bill the entire time the Republicans were in the majority. It’s only until Webb comes along and proposes something does McCain pretend to care about veterans.
I really hope they do something with stem cell research so they can repair the part of Nathan’s brain that has him permanently tuned to the stupid frequency.
Well there Clark and gster, there is more to life than drinking beer and smoking pot. When one applies themselves, one can do many things, go many places and learn many things.
Or, one can stay at home, whine and complain, bitchin’ like an old washer woman and then become a progressive liberal.
MP was good enough to post this for everyone here, guess there are some who missed the qualifications — THE ONES MCCAIN DOES NOT MEET (btw!).
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Maggotpunk Posted June 9, 2008 at 12:41 pm | Permalink
TITLE 38–PENSIONS, BONUSES, AND VETERANS’ RELIEF
CHAPTER I–DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS
Total disability will be considered to exist when there is present any impairment of mind or body which is sufficient to render it impossible for the average person to follow a substantially gainful occupation; Provided, That permanent total disability shall be taken to exist when the impairment is reasonably certain to continue throughout the life of the disabled person. The following will be considered to be permanent total disability: the permanent loss of the use of both hands, or of both feet, or of one hand and one foot, or of the sight of both eyes, or becoming permanently helpless or permanently bedridden.
“Regular” points his pants at us and brags he was once –
“…a 230 pounder who could do one handed finger tip push ups.”
Guess you can’t do that anymore, due to your injury.
Were you hurt worse than Carol McCain?
Total disability will be considered to exist when there is present any impairment of mind
That does it. He’s a shoe in…
“and then become a progressive liberal.”
Yes, I keep forgetting that McCluer could eat bullets and fart machine gun rounds, while dunking a basketball over Wilt Chamberlin and overseeing the work of scientists, while practicing martial arts v. Bruce Lee.
All of this before he was twelve.
Or was that, he could eat scientists………
Monkeyhawk
Posted June 9, 2008 at 1:52 pm | Permalink
“Regular” points his pants at us and brags he was once –
“…a 230 pounder who could do one handed finger tip push ups.”
Guess you can’t do that anymore, due to your injury.
Were you hurt worse than Carol McCain?
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Actually, I can, but I struggle cause I’m out of shape and I have to use my knees as I only have partial feeling in my ankles and feet – so no full extension push ups.
I could take you down MonkeyHock and make you cry for your momma. :)
“Regular” –
Were your injuries worse than Carol McCain’s?
outlander posted June 9, 2008 at 8:42 am
“… the planet stopped warming 2 years before Bush took the oath in 2001, has been cooling since 2002 and that this year’s was the fourth coldest May since 1979.”
According to the deniers logic(sic), global warming stopped in 1981, 1983, 1988, 1990, 1995, 1998, 2002, 2005, and 2007.
http://www.realclimate.org/images/giss-7yr.jpg
But the Earth is getting warmer,
http://www.realclimate.org/images/giss-15yr.jpg
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/Fig1_2007annual.gif
Guess we should be thankful we don’t pay each U. S. Senator with an impairment of the mind an extra $58,000 a year? We’re already broke. Don’t know if we could borrow enough to cover this expense!
WSClark
Posted June 9, 2008 at 1:56 pm | Permalink
“and then become a progressive liberal.”
Yes, I keep forgetting that McCluer could eat bullets and fart machine gun rounds, while dunking a basketball over Wilt Chamberlin and overseeing the work of scientists, while practicing martial arts v. Bruce Lee.
All of this before he was twelve.
Or was that, he could eat scientists………
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Still can’t figure it out can ya Clark.
Perhaps all those decades you were ’sauced to the gills’ was your first clue on not how to become a total person, but a self-defeating drunk who blames life for getting his way.
MonkeyHock,
Have you kept kosher?
“but a self-defeating drunk who blames life for getting his way.”
Well, Mr. Did It All, copy and paste where I “blamed life for getting in the way.”
Or you could just STFU.
Either way is cool.
No response to McCain making over 30 propaganda videos for the NVA. Interesting…
http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=IlX9l1g1ZE0&rel=1&eurl=http%3A//
CapnAmerica,
Small minds get hung up on small typos when the people being addressed don’t even deserve a reply let alone the time taken to proof read or correct typos.
You get the idea, you aren’t that stupid…well maybe you are at that.
“Regular” reverts to name-calling again (what else has he got?) with –
“MonkeyHock,
Have you kept kosher?
Nope. I like cheeseburgers too much.
But then again, the laws of Leviticus have always seemed to be the musings of a long-ago primitive nomadic tribe that didn’t know better.
But you’re trying to change the subject, aren’t you? We’re all concerned about the infirmities you sustained in service to your nation. Were you hurt worse than Carol McCain?
Boxlock–
Don’t play coy. You attacked Apophis for his “abilities.” I simply pointed out that your “abilities” weren’t exactly stellar.
The small minded as you call them resort to name calling.
Check.
outlander posted June 9, 2008 at 8:42 am
“Anthony Watts, one of myriad scientists attributing recent cooling (and global temperature anomalies overall) to the activity of that yellow dwarf star at the center of our solar system and other historically correlative natural forces…”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Watts
“Anthony Watts is Chief Meteorologist for KPAY-AM [Fox News] radio”
‘Global cooling in 2007 – has global warming ended?’
http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-cooling-january-2007-to-january-2008.htm
“The skeptic argument…
January 2008 capped a 12 month period of global temperature drops on all of the major well respected indicators. HadCRUT, RSS, UAH, and GISS global temperature sets all show sharp drops in the last year (source: Watts Up With That).
What the science says…
2007’s dramatic cooling is driven by La Nina which historically has caused similar drops in global temperature and should recede in mid-2008.”
“Total disability will be considered to exist when there is present any impairment of mind or body which is sufficient to render it impossible for the average person to follow a substantially gainful occupation; ”
So, what does that say about Sidney’s Senate activities?
“No response to McCain making over 30 propaganda videos for the NVA. Interesting…”
Yes, VERY interesting.
“Or, one can stay at home.”
Uh, yeah, Regular.
When did you last leave the house?
MonkeyHock,
Do you enjoy using the ‘N’ word? I mean every other day, you blurt it out like you’re talking about dog rape as part of your daily life.
Was that you that was arrested in Wichita?
CapnAmerica
Posted June 9, 2008 at 2:14 pm | Permalink
“Or, one can stay at home.”
Uh, yeah, Regular.
When did you last leave the house?
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The other day when your wife wanted a real man.
Disability is given on the condition of the individual at the time, not their individual efforts at overcoming the disability later.
McCain came out of over 5 years as a POW where he was tortured, mistreated, and given inadequate medical care.
To this day he is unable to lift his arms above his shoulders.
There is more to the VA on total disability as well. It is not the easiest thing to read, but I am sure somewhere in there is the reason why McCain was given full disability:
http://www.vajoe.com/blog/2007/11/27/title-38-pensions-bonuses-and-veterans%E2%80%99-relief-part-2/
It is much longer and more complicated than the one paragraph MonkeyHawk gave us.
Maggotpunk,
Were [sic, where] is your proof or facts or evidence that McCain supports sending wounded soldiers back to Iraq.
Lets see it.
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Right, Nathan.
And let’s see those examples that MaggotP “makes stuff up as usual” too.
cosm O
“2007’s dramatic cooling is driven by La Nina which historically has caused similar drops in global temperature and should recede in mid-2008.””
Didnt the climate models predict this???
NO, because they are simplistic crap.
That’s a scary video, Sol.
McCain is both delusional and deceitful. I’m not laughing.
What else will he say or do for all the wrong reasons?
America can’t afford the answer or bush’s third term.
McCain came out of over 5 years as a POW where he was tortured, mistreated, and given inadequate medical care.
All whilst making over 30 propaganda videos for the enemy. Jane Fonda anyone?
It is much longer and more complicated than the one paragraph MonkeyHawk gave us.
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Ya, no kidding Nathan! Paperwork nightmare, Medical and Adminstrative Boards…
Not to mention, poking, prodding, xraying, CT scanning, blood drawing and general invasive procedures too nasty to talk about here.
Sometimes “Regular” spews lies just to keep in practice, as with –
“MonkeyHock,
Do you enjoy using the ‘N’ word? I mean every other day, you blurt it out…”
“Every other day,” huh?
That means you’ve got examples from yesterday or today, and from Saturday or Friday, and from Wednesday or Thursday…
Certainly you can produce those, assuming you’re not so debilitated by your war injuries.
Were you hurt more severely than Carol McCain?
A somewhat interesting discussion regarding John McCain is marginalized by sophmoric banter instigated and fed by Regular’s ego. I hope that it won’t regress further. But if it does Regular, please go outside before you try measuring to see who is larger.
MonkeyHock,
Are you getting treatment for dog raping?
CapnAm…………….boxtop has no idea of my abilities.
All the dancing poodle sees is another “liberal” he does not like. It really smacks him in the face that I am an educator in a public school and he presumes that I share my political views to my students everyday (for the record, I do not). He is also totally frustrated by the fact that he CANNOT TOUCH ME.
The dancing poodle can bark and whine all he wants, but he will NEVER have anything of substance on me or anyone else for that matter.
DANCE
POODLE
DANCE!
Heckler posted June 9, 2008 at 2:18 pm
“Didnt the climate models predict this???”
ENSO averages out over the long-term. El Nino warms, La Nina cools.
An AGW denier is driving from the coast to a mountain top.
After going gradually uphill for awhile, the road goes downhill into a small valley.
The denier insists that because the road goes downhill for a short distance, it cannot possibly go to the mountain top.
Ben,
What is interesting about it?
McCain has already discussed what happened.
He said he was beat and tortured and reached his breaking point.
I have no idea about him making over 30 propaganda videos. Where are you getting that information from?
You want me to drastically change my life because some computer model that says the earth is warming because of human CO2 creation.
And it can’t account for something as powerfull as changes in La nina?/??
and you call that science…..
http://www.salon.com/news/2007/03/11/fort_benning/index.html
The Army is ordering injured troops to go to Iraq
As the military scrambles to pour more soldiers into Iraq, a unit of the Army’s 3rd Infantry Division at Fort Benning, Ga., is deploying troops with serious injuries and other medical problems, including GIs who doctors have said are medically unfit for battle. Some are too injured to wear their body armor, according to medical records.
. . . .
The captain interviewed by Salon also requested anonymity because he fears retribution. He suffered a back injury during a previous deployment to Iraq as an infantry platoon leader. A Humvee accident “corkscrewed my spine,” he explained. Like the female soldier, he is unable to wear his protective gear, and like her he too was ordered to Iraq after his meeting with the division surgeon and brigade surgeon on Feb. 15. He is still at Fort Benning and is fighting the decision to send him to Baghdad. “It is a numbers issue with this whole troop surge,” he claimed. “They are just trying to get those numbers.”
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17628647/
SHUSTER: Arizona Senator John McCain, who supports the Bush troop escalation, claimed today the plan is beginning to work.
Granted, this doesn’t prove that McCain supports sending wounded troops back to Iraq.
But given that he supports Bush’s policy, and Bush’s policy includes sending wounded troops back, it strongly suggests it.
Nathan,
http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=IlX9l1g1ZE0&rel=1&eurl=http%3A//
It is at the end.
CapnAmerica,
Are you really that dumb?
You quoted the very proof you asked for.
Maggotpunk claimed that McCain supported doing something that he has no proof of!
You complete total retarded idiot.
cosmos_originally
Posted June 9, 2008 at 2:26 pm | Permalink
An AGW denier is driving from the coast to a mountain top.
After going gradually uphill for awhile, the road goes downhill into a small valley.
The denier insists that because the road goes downhill for a short distance, it cannot possibly go to the mountain top.
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The denier being an engineer assembles a team to blast a hole in mountain, making a six lane weather proof highway tunnel saving time, gas resources and lives.
“Nathaniel” enlightens the conversation with –
“…It is much longer and more complicated than the one paragraph MonkeyHawk gave us.”
Uhm, “Nathaniel?”
You’re having trouble identifying your enemies again. It was “lindainks55″ who posted the entire statute regarding VA disability policy. Not me. (Did you make similar mistakes in Iraq by shooting civilian non-combatants? I’m beginning to wonder.)
Do you frequently mistake females for males, too?
Nathaniel
Posted June 9, 2008 at 2:28 pm | Permalink
CapnAmerica,
Are you really that dumb?
You quoted the very proof you asked for.
Maggotpunk claimed that McCain supported doing something that he has no proof of!
You complete total retarded idiot.
*************************************************************************
A complete total retarded idiot calling another blogger a complete total retarded idiot.
Is this considered irony or what?
Sure, Heckler.
Having three hailstorms in one day in Wichita last month was nothing more than a computer model.
Pay no attention to the increasing numbers of severe storms which are exactly what global warming theories predict . . .
MonkeyHock,
Are you attracted to poodles or do chihuahua’s on your lap moderate themselves to you?
What the science says…
2007’s dramatic cooling is driven by La Nina which historically has caused similar drops in global temperature and should recede in mid-2008.”
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I guess that we will see about that, won’t we cosmos? But, what with the NASA prediction of 20 years plus of flat or cooling temps, and the continued solar minimum, I have my doubts. People will lose interest in AGW theory as they shiver cussing the cold.
Got any doubts yourself cosmos?
SolDevVB,
I see it now.
Jane Fonda was not beaten and tortured into making her crap.
John McCain was held captive for over 5 years, beaten and tortured into making those statements.
What was Fonda’s excuse?
Study: 1 in 4 adults in NYC have herpes virus
” NEW YORK (AP) – A city Health Department study finds that more than a fourth of adult New Yorkers are infected with the virus that causes genital herpes.
The study, released Monday, says about 26 percent of New York City adults have genital herpes, compared to about 19 percent nationwide.
The department says genital herpes can double a person’s risk for contracting HIV.
Herpes can cause painful sores, but most people have no recognizable symptoms.
Among New Yorkers, the herpes rate is higher among women, black people and gay men.
The health department urges consistent use of condoms, and says its STD clinics offer free, confidential herpes testing.”
That’s interesting, and in one of the most ‘progressively liberal’ cities in the U.S.
Can you imagine that.
CapnAmerica
Posted June 9, 2008 at 2:30 pm | Permalink
Sure, Heckler.
Having three hailstorms in one day in Wichita last month was nothing more than a computer model.
Pay no attention to the increasing numbers of severe storms which are exactly what global warming theories predict . . .
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The Crapn does not understand the difference between seasonal weather and climate change.
“You complete total retarded idiot.”
Yup. That’s when you know you’ve won.
Sure, Heckler.
Having three hailstorms in one day in Wichita last month was nothing more than a computer model.
Pay no attention to the increasing numbers of severe storms which are exactly what global warming theories predict . . .
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Capn, STOP. You’re embarrassing cosmos, who will have to find a way to try to defend your silliness.
“The Army is ordering injured troops to go to Iraq”
I wonder how bad you have to be hurt to NOT be sent back?
CapnAmerica,
One day you AGW worshippers say weather is proof and the next you say it isn’t.
As usual, everything is proof of AGW.
It is getting colder? AGW
It is getting warmer? AGW
More Hurricanes? AGW
Less Hurricanes? AGW
Ice is forming? AGW
Ice is melting? AGW
All must bow down to worship the almighty AGW god.
To deny AGW is heresy and you will be burned at the stake!
Well you can’t say that injured troops are being sent back to Iraq. Then someone would get the wrong idea and think the Army is breaking.
Ben,
Figuring that the story was about 79 soldiers out of over 100,000, I am guessing they are not so seriously wounded….
Just another typical liberal day on digging up whatever they can to attack the war.
And just another example of how stupid Maggotpunk is.
CapnAmerica,
So why did you never respond to breaking our deal?
Wow.
Ol’ “Regular” is really getting desperate (or maybe is typing with one hand as he fantasizes about dog sex) with –
“MonkeyHock,
Are you getting treatment for dog raping?”
and…
“MonkeyHock,
Are you attracted to poodles or do chihuahua’s on your lap moderate themselves to you?”
See here’s where you obviously have me at a disadvantage. I know absolutely nothing about man-on-dog sex and here you are throwing insiders’ jargon at me.
Based on your obvious personal experience just what does “…do chihuahuas on your lap moderate themselves” mean, exactly?
Hey, it’s your fantasy.
Tell us all about it!
Boxlock–
People in NY have more sex with more partners, hence they have more STD’s.
Wow. Stop the presses.
Nathan–
Even though you love to call out self-professed Christians for their refusal to take a “literal” reading of everything from a “day” in Genesis to who gets to heaven, you and Daddy seem to have a very interpretative view of this verse:
Matthew 5:22 (NIV)
Anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.
Unlike you, I won’t say that you are not a Christian because you call me “nitwit” “retarded” and “idiot.”
In fact, most of the street-corner praying Christians like you seem to revel in calling their brothers “you fool.”
It’s expected from those who claim Christianity most fervently these days.
CapnAmerica,
I didn’t realize that you quote the Bible or read it at all.
Are there any other parts of the Bible you believe or is that the only verse?
To deny AGW is heresy and you will be burned at the stake!
But… won’t that generate CO2?
I believe all the Bible is true, in essence.
Take the Parable of the Prodigal Son. Is it true? Of course, it’s true. It’s true in essence.
Whether it actually happened or not is irrelevant.
Don’t worry, Nathan. You won’t go to hell for calling me all those nasty names on my account.
As a Christian, I’ve already forgiven you.
“All must bow down to worship the almighty AGW god.
And just another example of how stupid Nathaniel is.”
CapnAmerica,
What does your forgiving me have to do with anything pertaining to my being right with God?
Egotistical are we?
“Are you getting treatment for dog raping?”
McCluer seems to have a great interest in this subject.
I can’t help but wonder why?
So MonkeyHock,
Are you keeping kosher?
It’s okay, Nathan.
I’ve forgiven you for calling me egotistical too . . .
Heckler posted June 9, 2008 at 2:27 pm
“And it can’t account for something as powerfull as changes in La nina?/??
and you call that science…..”
How do you “account” for future ENSO factors when we can’t predict them?
If there’s a large volcanic eruption this year that causes cooling, are you going to attack the climate models for not predicting it?
Again, the ENSO warming and cooling periods average out over the long-term.
Speaking of “Global Cooling”:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25059254/?GT1=43001
They sure are shivering there!
:)
“WSClark” notes that “Regular” asks –
“Are you getting treatment for dog raping?”
And adds –
McCluer seems to have a great interest in this subject.
I can’t help but wonder why?
It’s a desperate cry for
yelphelp.ahh yes. Regular being bullet-proof, dog raping beastiality, and the gosepel according to Nat.
Regular–
For the record, I’ve never kept kosher.
If I have a kid (baby goat) and I want to boil it in its mother’s milk, by golly, I’m a-going to do it.
CapnAmerica,
Im still curious as to how my being right, wrong, or in sin against God has anything to do with YOUR forgiving me?
You can forgive me all day long. That has nothing to do with my relationship with God.
You forgiveness is about YOUR relationship with God and marginally with me.
Actually, ENSO models fairly well. As expected, it results in a small but statistically significant cooling-warming cycle. That cycle is then superimposed upon the overall positive-slope trendline.
One interesting thing that I have noticed is that the period of the ENSO oscillation seems to be shortening.
LLTVET,
Ate any good books lately?
“Regular” again, with –
So MonkeyHock,
Are you keeping kosher?
Asked and answered.
But why are you all of a sudden reticent to tell us more about the injuries that put you in your sorry physical state? You used to brag about it. You mentioned your ordeal upthread.
Simple question, “Regular.”
Were your injuries worse than Carol McCain’s?
Nathan – isn’t there something in the Old Testament (Deuterotomy?) about a sinner seeking forgiveness of the person against whom he has sinned as a pre-requisite for getting right with God?
So when Christ said, “Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do,” it was all about Jesus’ relationship to God.
Thanks, Nathan.
Got it.
The multi-nic’d ‘Regular‘ posted June 9, 2008 at 2:29 pm
“The denier being an engineer assembles a team to blast a hole in mountain, making a six lane weather proof highway tunnel saving time, gas resources and lives.”
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In other words, eliminate the fluctuations caused by volcanoes, ENSO, etc.
Fit a straight line to the data on this graph, from 1975 to 2007.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/Fig1_2007annual.gif
(chortles)
I’m going out on a limb here, MonkeyH.
I don’t think Regular’s injuries were as bad as Carol McCain’s.
She lost most of both legs and ended up four inches shorter, for starters.
The multi-nic’d ‘Regular‘ posted June 9, 2008 at 2:29 pm
“The denier being an engineer assembles a team to blast a hole in mountain, making a six lane weather proof highway tunnel saving time, gas resources and lives.”
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In other words, eliminate the fluctuations caused by volcanoes, ENSO, etc.
Fit a straight line to the data on this graph, from 1975 to 2007.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/Fig1_2007annual.gif
(chortles)
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Engineering is greater than the sum of all climate science.
Deal with it.
(chortles)
MonkeyHock,
Are you keeping kosher?
Only in your perverted world-view, Regular, does that question mean “are you hetrosexual?”
Give it a rest.
The multi-nic’d ‘Regular‘ posted June 9, 2008 at 3:14 pm
“Engineering is greater than the sum of all climate science.”
Regular incorrectly believes that, because he did not learn any climate science when he got his Industrial Hygiene engineering degree.
And Regular still does not understand climate science.
And from the WTF file..
Top Pentagon Scientists Fear Brain-Modified Foes
There’s concern in some corners of the U.S. military about “enemy activities in sleep research,” neuro-pharmaceutical performance enhancement, and “brain-computer interfaces.” And it’s not coming from the Pentagon’s scientific fringe, or from some tin-hat kook with a Defense Department badge. The celebrated scientists on the Pentagon’s most prestigious scientific advisory panel, JASON, are the ones worried about adversaries’ ability “to exploit advances in Human Performance Modification, and thus create a threat to national security.”
In a recent report, unearthed by Secrecy News, the JASONs are recommending that the American military push ahead with its own performance-enhancement research — and monitor foreign studies — to make sure that the U.S.’ enemies don’t suddenly become smarter, faster, or better able to endure the harsh realities of war than American troops.
The JASONs are particularly concerned about (and excited by) new drugs that promote “brain plasticity” — rewiring the mind, essentially, by helping to “permanently establishing new neural pathways, and thus new cognitive capabilities.” The military has already tested these neuro-modulators as a way to keep troops alert after sleepless nights.
But these new drugs will certainly have extensive off-label use for improvement of memory and cognitive performance. [They] may have the additional effect of weakening or overwriting existing memories. Depending on the ultimate performance of these drugs, adversaries might use them in training programs or field operations… to increase troop effectiveness or modify troop behavior and/or emotional responses.
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/06/jason-warns-of.html
CapnAmerica,
Jesus was asking God to forgive them. You said you were forgiving me, not asking God to forgive me.
Big difference there.
On top of that, Jesus was God and had the ability to forgive people of their sins. He died for everyones sins.
Are you claiming God like power to forgive sins?
Ben,
You tell me.
CapnAmerica
Posted June 9, 2008 at 3:13 pm | Permalink
I’m going out on a limb here, MonkeyH.
I don’t think Regular’s injuries were as bad as Carol McCain’s.
She lost most of both legs and ended up four inches shorter, for starters
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Lost most of her legs and ended up four inches shorter??? Jeezzz was she only 12″ high to begin with? How short must one be to loose most of your legs and only loose 4″ in height?
Jesus was God and had the ability to forgive people …
So He was talking to Himself on the cross?
So why would someone believe in a God that needed to kill himself (or anyone else for that matter) before he could (or would) forgive?
Just looking at the posters on this blog in paticular the open thread, I conclude that you must have to be mentally deficient to post on it. Are you all idiots that do this during your free time at the home?
LLTVET
Posted June 9, 2008 at 3:41 pm | Permalink
So why would someone believe in a God that needed to kill himself (or anyone else for that matter) before he could (or would) forgive?
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Isn’t it great that we live in a country that has freedom of religion and you don’t have to believe like anyone else but they are free to believe as they wish. Go worship trees or something else you like and leave the poor Christian alone.
OKOB: Of course it is great. One of the few privileges that I didn’t enjoy while I was in the Army.
Now if someone’s little feellings get hurt by my sarcasm, I’m not going to get upset about it.
Who knows? I might get Saint Nathan to think a bit more freely.
But I do like your satire. Not bad form I must say.
okobserver
Posted June 9, 2008 at 3:45 pm | Permalink
Just looking at the posters on this blog in paticular the open thread, I conclude that you must have to be mentally deficient to post on it.
Admitting is the first step OkOb. Glad to see you admitting to being mentally deficient.
Why didn’t Jesus say “I forgive you for your sins’ if he was God?
Another good example of why the trinity is whack.
Thanks Nathan.
You know the whole virgin birth thing would be more believeable if women weren’t punished for giving birth out of wedlock and if Jesus had appeared in an egg or a tree or something.
Justway too convenient that he was born of a ‘virgin’ with a boyfriend.
Political_mama-”You know the whole virgin birth thing would be more believeable if women weren’t punished for giving birth out of wedlock and if Jesus had appeared in an egg or a tree or something.”
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Yes, I am sure it would be “more believeable” to you if that was the story.
Virgin birth or Jesus in an egg or tree or something, you pick which is “more believable”.
If you are going to attack someones religion, have something better than that to go on.
Anti and OKOB. So what is the protocol here? Are we allowed to even question your religion without being accused of attacking it?
Or is the standard such that you can call us tree worshipers and that is not an attack. While we, of course can’t even state our opinions without “ATTACKING” you?
LLTVET, don’t you just love the “tolerant christians” on this blog?
What
Would
Jesus
Think
?
Careful Apophis, we wouldn’t want to be guilty of “attacking” the poor Christians. Would we?
I could care less what a faux-christian thinks.
Besides, it will give the dancing poodle, boxtop, something else to put in the dossier on me he is compiling.
He hopes to “get me fired”!
“So He was talking to Himself on the cross?”
And when Jesus died for three days and three nights – was God dead?
SolDevVB, that’s nothing! Try sitting on your own RIGHT HAND!
LLTVET
Posted June 9, 2008 at 4:11 pm | Permalink
Anti and OKOB. So what is the protocol here? Are we allowed to even question your religion without being accused of attacking it?
Or is the standard such that you can call us tree worshipers and that is not an attack. While we, of course can’t even state our opinions without “ATTACKING” you?
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No LLVET, I was trying to point out that if you already think the virgin birth is crazy, is adding “if Jesus had appeared in an egg or a tree or something” going to make the story LESS crazy. The point is this- some people who hate religion like to say “it would be more believable if…happened.” But they are missing the faith part and that religion shouldn’t be molded to what fits you on any given day.
“Are you all idiots that do this during your free time at the home?”
okobserver, some are at home (free loaders). But most are posting on their bosses time – from work.
It’s about quitting time. Posting will slow for the hour or so it takes folks to drive home. And post some more.
Ex. A Great being created everything or a speck of dust which held all matter in what is here today exploded and created everything. (don’t ask where the speck came from)
Which one is crazier? It depends on what you have faith in.
“they are missing the faith part”
Yes, everyone should just accept a story written 2,000 years as absolute fact because – the Bible says it is absolute fact.
Now, if I wrote a book that said it was the “Word of God” and that every word was fact, and God Himself directed every word, would you believe me?
Hardly.
“(don’t ask where the speck came from)”
Duh, for the 941st time, evolution has never attempted to answer the question as to the origins of life.
You comment would be a “strawman.”
Let’s see — IF Jesus is born of a virgin… that means NO male sperm… None…
Hmmm…. That would be in the territory of In Vitro fertilization, or something close to it… No wait, more like Cloning!!
Soooo is Baby Jesus a Clone??
And remember, in Classical Christianity, Jesus is FULLY God, and FULLY Man….
In order to be FULLY Human, there has to be a female egg, and a male sperm…
So Chas, you deny that Jesus was born of Virgin?
That seems to be what your post means.
MonkeyHock,
Do you keep kosher?
Ever since Confirmation Class days, I have been asking, If Jesus is God, then who is He praying to?? Never have gotten a totally serious answer yet… but, I am still waiting… And along with that, when Jesus dies on the Cross for us and for our sins, if He is God, did God die that day?? And if God died, who raised Jesus from Death??
Of course, many of those questions are answered in Albert Schweitzer’s fantastic book, The Quest of the Historical Jesus… A very excellent work… by a great man of faith, and a great scholar as well…
I stated nothing of evolution Clark
L J — The Bible doesnt require belief in the “virgin birth”
oh yeah….Duh!
I’ll be back later for your response Clark
would you believe me?
Hardly.
Just like some believe in Global Warming heh?
Blindly.
“Chas
Posted June 9, 2008 at 4:56 pm | Permalink
L J — The Bible doesnt require belief in the “virgin birth””
That’s not what I asked. I asked if that is what you were stating. Nothing more. Just wanted clarification on what you were saying. Notice, I did not question your beliefs, make fun of anything you said, or argue with you. Just wanted clarification of your statement. Thanks
cosmos_originally
Posted June 9, 2008 at 3:27 pm | Permalink
The multi-nic’d ‘Regular‘ posted June 9, 2008 at 3:14 pm
“Engineering is greater than the sum of all climate science.”
Regular incorrectly believes that, because he did not learn any climate science when he got his Industrial Hygiene engineering degree.
And Regular still does not understand climate science.
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awwww,,
Poor wittle cosmos is ticked cause I bested his story. :D
The messiah had to be a decendant of David. In fact the new testament starts with Jesus genealogy because it was important. Joseph fulfilled the law. (even though his sperm wasn’t used?)
cosmos_originally
Posted June 9, 2008 at 2:26 pm | Permalink
An AGW denier is driving from the coast to a mountain top.
After going gradually uphill for awhile, the road goes downhill into a small valley.
The denier insists that because the road goes downhill for a short distance, it cannot possibly go to the mountain top.
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The denier being an engineer assembles a team to blast a hole in mountain, making a six lane weather proof highway tunnel saving time, gas resources and lives.
(chortles)
Actually, AmWay, Mary is also a descendant of David… Read the other genealogy… There are two of them…
Jewish line of descent is traced through the Mother… not the Father….
Chas
Posted June 9, 2008 at 4:56 pm | Permalink
L J — The Bible doesnt require belief in the “virgin birth”
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Well of course not Chas. If you’re not a believer.
L J — My statement is simply that, knowing what we know of genetics, and obstetrics today, the Gospel narrative in Matthew is a little difficult to reconcile…
Perhaps AmWay: But I noticed these Geneologies didn’t match between the Gospel according to Matthew and the First Book of Chronicles, Chapter 3. Matthew was pre-occupied with 14. I wouldn’t call it a quatrain, rather a forteen-train. Some of us see it only as a figure of speech, others see it as the infallable word of God that is beyond question. Or am I now guilty of the false dilema?
Chas
Posted June 9, 2008 at 5:05 pm | Permalink
Jewish line of descent is traced through the Mother… not the Father….
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So Brother Chas,
Tell me from the book of Matthew, about how many mother’s of descent do you count here?
1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren;
3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram;
4 And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon;
5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse;
6 And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias;
7 And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa;
8 And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias;
9 And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias;
10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias;
11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon:
12 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel;
13 And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor;
14 And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud;
15 And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob;
16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.
18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
Doesnt require it of a believer either, Outlander… Just isnt in there…
That is the Joseph line of descent… Now go read the Luke genealogy…
And Regular, if you try to argue with me on this one, you will lose, and lose very bad…
And yes, there were two schools of thought on line of descent… But, please, do check it out…
“Regular” asks –
“MonkeyHock,
Do you keep kosher?
First off, there’s no one in this forum that uses the nym “MonkeyHock.”
If you want my answer, which is upthread, read it.
Now there is a poster who uses the nym “Regular” (that’d be you) who’s written a lot about his debilitating injuries and painful recuperation.
Were your injuries worse than Carol McCain’s?
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Chas
Posted June 9, 2008 at 5:09 pm | Permalink
Doesnt require it of a believer either, Outlander… Just isnt in there…
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Ummm… Just isn’t in where, Chas?
ANTI –
Since you asked, you can read all about Carol McCain’s injuries and surgeries and how John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) treated her.
Click here:
http://tinyurl.com/6gbzhw
Oh you mean the Eli reference Chas?
Don’t you know who Eli was?
Eli was the Mary’s father. I hope you are using a befuddled reference that confuses you Chas. :)
So MonkeyHawk,
Do you keep kosher?
“Matthew records the line of Jesus’ supposed father, Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Luke records the lineage of Mary.”
http://www.seekerstrove.com/genealogy.htm
The multi-nic’d ‘Regular‘ posted June 9, 2008 at 5:00 pm
“Poor wittle cosmos is ticked cause I bested his story.”
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Nope. I just stated the obvious facts.
Your (old) IH engineering degree does not make you a scientist.
And you clearly do not understand climate science, because you incorrectly believe junk, like E. G Beck’s CO2 claims.
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In other words, eliminate the fluctuations caused by volcanoes, ENSO, etc.
Fit a straight line to the data on this graph, from 1975 to 2007.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/Fig1_2007annual.gif
(chortles)
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Chas
Posted June 9, 2008 at 4:49 pm | Permalink
Let’s see — IF Jesus is born of a virgin… that means NO male sperm… None…
Hmmm…. That would be in the territory of In Vitro fertilization, or something close to it… No wait, more like Cloning!!
Soooo is Baby Jesus a Clone??
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Chas: As a Christian, I believe that God created the heavens and the earth. Yet you, an alleged Christian minister, actually sit there and puzzle over a comparatively simple thing like a virgin birth?
Oh ye of little faith.
A better graph that incorporates BOTH anthropogenic (trend) and natural fluctuations:
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/RickyRood/comment.html?entrynum=62&tstamp=200802
Also, April – although not record warm, was still much warmer than normal:
http://www.wunderground.com/climate/
April 2008 was the 13th warmest April for the the globe on record, according to statistics released by the National Climatic Data Center. The January-April year-to-date period ranked twelfth warmest.
La Nina has cooled things a bit but still abnormally warm.
That’s right Chas, now you’re getting it.
Both are descendants of King David as prophesized.
No Outlander… it does not puzzle me… because I see it as irrelevant… And I see it that way since no mention of such an event is made anywhere in the N. T. except for the hint in Matthew…. Nowhere in Paul’s Letters, or anywhere else is this “idea” of virgin birth important…
I simply refer here to the puzzle it brought to the mind of a 13 yr. old experience the required event called Confirmation, as practiced in the Luther Church, and some other denominations….
For the highly poetic expression of historical christianity, see the words of the Nicene Creed…
Yeah cosmos. How is that 1.4 F rise in temperature holding up? Are you sweating? Can you feel the heat?
What’s the normal accuracy for a thermometer from the 1920s? plus or minus 1 degree?
How about the accuracy of a thermometer from the 1970s?
How about the 1890s cosmos? Where all those thermometers calibrated to a 10th of a degree in order to capture the deviation?
Come on cosmos, you can do it.
(chortles)
And Regular, a simple google search will show that for many centuries, line of descent was recorded according to maternal descent… It was first recorded as paternal descent, then shifted to maternal… and then back to paternal… Currently, at least within Reform and Reconstructionist Judaism, either line is acceptable… Google “Jewish line of descent”
So Chas, have I lost yet? :D
BTW, The Joseph lineage is in descending order of the Kings…. The Mary lineage comes through the order of Priesthood… Thus, the notations that Jesus is Prophet, Priest, and King…
From McCain’s dumped ex-wife:
“My marriage ended because John McCain didn’t want to be 40, he wanted to be 25. You know that happens…it just does.’
Some of McCain’s acquaintances are less forgiving, however. They portray the politician as a self-centred womaniser who effectively abandoned his crippled wife to ‘play the field’. They accuse him of finally settling on Cindy, a former rodeo beauty queen, for financial reasons.
McCain was then earning little more than £25,000 a year as a naval officer, while his new father-in-law, Jim Hensley, was a multi-millionaire who had impeccable political connections.”
Didn’t Newt do something like that – dump a wife while she was in the hospital?
The Marian lineage is what inspires the writer of the Letter to the Hebrews, to refer to Christ as “The Great High Priest”
OK Chas. Back to an earlier question. You said, referring to the virgin birth, that; “It’s “just not in there”.
What did you mean? What is not in where, Chas?
Outlander — Surely you can figure that out from reding the “context” of my post… if not — so sorry for you…
Don’t worry outlander, Brother Chas loves the ambigious pronoun, unless it was meant to be unambigious after it wasn’t meant to be.
Of course, due to the Brother Chas denial factor, ambiguity can only arise due to the statement of others and certainly none can be found in his, unless it is one that it is intentionally ambigious, which of course could change over time to unambigious. Depends on what the meaning of “is” is.
The Nanny State. You gotta love it!
“Those cited on Saturday night on suspicion of smoking in public places were: Dorothy Curry, 24; Timothy Hayes, 26; Bryan Henson, 21; and Angelyn Taylor, 32, all of Columbia. Mark Kois, 34, of Columbia was cited on suspicion of allowing a person to smoke in a prohibited area.
Smoking tickets, under city ordinance, can run as high as $200.
The Columbia City Council in October 2006 voted 4-3 to approve the smoking ordinance, and it took effect in January 2007. Since then, restaurant owners have complained of decreased revenues, and a handful have cited it as a reason for closing.”
“Tell me from the book of Matthew, about how many mother’s of descent do you count here?”
Wait! Didn’t someone here say that I could NOT be of partial Jewish decent because my known (at the time) ancestry was through my birth grandfather?
Yeah, I am sure that is correct.
Now, who could it have been that said I could have Jewish ancestry?
Who would that be?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
Oh, yeah, it was that “Know It All” McCluer.
Liar.
Capn posts;
“People in NY have more sex with more partners, hence they have more STD’s.”
And that makes it okay, an acceptable situation?
Again, it is interesting that there are more STDs including HIV in a progressive/liberal city.
Doesn’t speak highly for their lifestyle now does it. Unless of course liberals think STD’s and HIV are an acceptable cost for liberalism.
Multi-nic’d ‘Regular‘,
1) Do you have an update on the research done by Anthony Watts and Steve McIntyre?
http://bigcitylib.blogspot.com/2007/09/deniers-rediscover-hockey-stick.html
“To be honest, this is starting to look like a great validation of GISTEMP.”
2) List the factor(s) that have caused the warming since the 1970’s. A change in Earth’s orbit? Alien spacecraft hidden by cloaking, aiming undetectable heat energy at Earth?
“Unless of course liberals think STD’s and HIV are an acceptable cost for liberalism.”
Dang, that it a fresh one – stinks like Hell – you must have just pulled that one out of your hindmost orifice.
Your grandfather gave up Judaism Clark. You are nothing but an descendant of someone who practiced Judaims but gave it up.
Which makes your clam to Jewish ancestry, nothing.
zip
nada
Ben,
Thank you for the links.
Looks like a lot of warming in Greenland and Europe.
http://www.wunderground.com/climate/
Another (IPCC) graph of temperatures from anthropogenic and natural forcing, for continents, ocean, and land.
Dropped the link,
http://environment.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/dn11649/dn11649-1_688.jpg
“Which makes your clam to Jewish ancestry, nothing.”
Apparently idiocy is your major claim to fame, McCluer, but here goes, for the 123rd time………………..
There is a DIFFERENCE between an ETHNIC Jew and a RELIGIOUS Jew.
An ETHNIC Jew can practice Judaism. One does not have to be an ETHNIC Jew, to be a practicing Jew and an ETHNIC Jew does not have to practice Judaism.
An ethic Jew is a Semite – as was my grandfather – get over it.
outlander
Posted June 9, 2008 at 5:06 pm | Permalink
Chas
Posted June 9, 2008 at 4:56 pm | Permalink
L J — The Bible doesnt require belief in the “virgin birth”
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Well of course not Chas. If you’re not a believer.
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Chas
Posted June 9, 2008 at 5:09 pm | Permalink
Doesnt require it of a believer either, Outlander… Just isnt in there…
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Apparently Oulander cannot read….
outlander
Posted June 9, 2008 at 5:44 pm | Permalink
OK Chas. Back to an earlier question. You said, referring to the virgin birth, that; “It’s “just not in there”.
What did you mean? What is not in where, Chas?
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Can you not read, outlander, what is being referred to here?? And if not, WHY not??
It is very plain…. You really need to follow your own posts!!
NO MORE USELESS FLAMING, OUTLANDER, OR ANY OF YOU OTHER TROLLS!! THE REST OF US HERE ARENT GOING TO PUT UP WITH YOUR FLAMING, AND TROLLING ANY MORE… WE WILL EITHER CALL YOU ON IT, OR SIMPLY IGNORE YOU…
Well Chas, I thought that you were full of crap with that post about the virgin birth not being in the Bible. But I thought, why not give Chas a chance to explain himself?
So I did. And sure enough, I was right to start with.
“Mary is also a descendant of David”
That’s nice Chas. But I was responding to something else. Didn’t need to include more bible study for my initial post.
We could go on with it and discuss the easter bunny and evergreen tree worship too. But it wasn’t in the topic.
“Which makes your clam to Jewish ancestry, nothing.”
I thought all us nasty Christians have jewish ancestors? I’m sure I do. I can tell by the profile of my nose.
I thought I’d drag this boxtop, the dancing poodle posts from another thread to show everyone just how nasty this jack ass is becoming.
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Boxlock
Posted June 9, 2008 at 7:36 am | Permalink
“DANCE poodle DANCE!!!!!!!!
DANCE poodle DANCE!!!!!!!!
DANCE poodle DANCE!!!!!!!!
DANCE poodle DANCE!!!!!!!!”
Hey everybody….look who’s dancing and dancing and dancing. Not I.
And his bragging, trying to try and cover his extreme inferiority complex as a small time punk and incompetent teacher.
You are a joke Oedipus.
Bye.
Boxlock
Posted June 9, 2008 at 7:40 am | Permalink
“Irony impairment. Remarkable.”
Not when the objective is to improve the educational opportunity of middle school kids who are at risk missing it with that jerk. Sometimes you have to get a little dirty to help clean up the situation, and Oedipus’s situation is real dirty.
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This is the typical reichwing anger and rage!
“small time punk and incompetent teacher”……….this fool nows NOTHING about me other than the fact that he dislikes me for being a “flaming socialist” (that is a direct boxtop quote)!
It’s too bad that nasty old boxtop declined to meet me tonight at the BOE meeting so he could lay out his case of my incompetence in person.
If I am as bad as he claims, wouldn’t I be fired on the spot?
…….boxtop, the angry, white man who dances like the poodle he is on cue!
dance POODLE (boxtop) dance!!!!!!!!!!
dance POODLE (boxtop) dance!!!!!!!!!!
dance POODLE (boxtop) dance!!!!!!!!!!
dance POODLE (boxtop) dance!!!!!!!!!!
Clark continues to impress the blog with his writing skills I see.
Brain cells are affected by long term drug abuse. It can be reflected in the childish writing and rantings of people who have never grown up.
Sad.
Outlander outright lies >>>>
“Well Chas, I thought that you were full of crap with that post about the virgin birth not being in the Bible.”
See Outlande, if you would only be able to READ, and comprehend… You would know that I never said such a thing!!! You IDIOT!!!
I SAID that nowhere in the Bible does it require you to believe in the virgin birth!!!
What a Dumb SHIT!
This ‘Letter of Apology’ was written by Lieutenant
General Chuck Pitman, US Marine Corps,
Retired:
For good and ill, the Iraqi prisoner abuse mess will remain an issue. On the one hand, right thinking Americans will abhor the stupidity of the actions
while on the other hand, political glee will take
control and fashion this minor event into some
modern day massacre.
I humbly offer my opinion here:
I am sorry that the last seven times we Americans
took up arms and sacrificed the blood of our youth;
it was in the defense of Muslims (Bosnia, Kosovo,
Gulf War 1, Kuwait, etc.)
I am sorry that no such call for an apology upon the
extremists came after 9/11.
I am sorry that all of the murderers on 9/11 were
Islamic Arabs.
I am sorry that most Arabs and Muslims have to live
in squalor under savage dictatorships.
I am sorry that their leaders squander their wealth.
I am sorry that their governments breed hate for the
US in their religious schools, mosques, and
government-controlled media.
I am sorry that Yasser Arafat was kicked out of every
Arab country and high-jacked the Palestinian ’cause.’
I am sorry that no other Arab country will take in or
offer more than a token amount of financial help to
those same Palestinians.
I am sorry that the U. S. A. has to step in and be the
biggest financial supporter of poverty stricken Arabs
while the insanely wealthy Arabs blame the USA for
all their problems.
I am sorry that our own left wing, our media, and our
own brainwashed liberal masses do not understand
any of this (from the misleading vocal elements of our
society like radical liberal professors, CNN and NY TIMES).
I am sorry the United Nations scammed the poor people of Iraq out of the ‘food for oil’ money so they could get rich while the common folk suffered.
I am sorry that some Arab governments pay the families of homicide bombers upon their death
I am sorry that those same bombers are brainwashed
thinking they will receive 72 virgins in ‘paradise.’
I am sorry that the homicide bombers think pregnant
women, babies, children, the elderly and other non-
combatant civilians are legitimate targets.
I am sorry that our troops die to free more Arabs from
the gang rape rooms and the filling of mass graves of
dissidents of their own making.
I am sorry that Muslim extremists have killed more
Arabs than any other group.
I am sorry that foreign trained terrorists are trying to
seize control of Iraq and return it to a terrorist state.
I am sorry we don’t drop a few dozen Daisy cutters
on Fallujah. I am sorry every time terrorists hide they find a convenient ‘Holy Site.’
I am sorry they didn’t apologize for driving a jet into
the World Trade Center that collapsed and severely
damaged Saint Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church –
one of our Holy Sites.
I am sorry they didn’t apologize for flight 93 and 175,
the USS Cole, the embassy bombings, the murders
and beheadings of Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl, etc…etc!
I am sorry Michael Moore is American; he could feed a medium sized village in Africa
America will get past this latest absurdity. We will punish those responsible because that is what we do.
I am sorry the Barack Hussein Obama may be elected president of the United States when he doesn’t have a clue on how to be a strong Commander-in-chief in a world filled with Muslim extremists who will do whatever it needs to do to destroy the lives of civilized people while killing innocent men, women and children in order
to bring a change that is beneficial to all Islamic terrorists worldwide.
I am sorry that voters on the liberal left don’t understand the frightening changes that are taking place in the Muslim world and what these changes will do to this world in which we live.
I am sorry that the Democratic Party has been highjacked by Socialists and Communists right under the very noses of those who take pride in calling themselves democrats.
We hang out our dirty laundry for the entire world to see. We move on. That’s one of the reasons we are hated so much. We don’t hide this stuff like all those Arab countries that are now demanding an apology.
Deep down inside, when most Americans saw this reported in the news, we were like – so what? We lost hundreds and made fun of a few prisoners. Sure, it was wrong, sure, it dramatically hurts our cause, but until captured we were trying to kill these same prisoners. Now we’re supposed to wring our hands because a few were humiliated?
Our compassion is tempered with the vivid memories of our own people killed, mutilated and burnt amongst a joyous crowd of celebrating Fallujahans.
If you want an apology from this American, you’re going to have a long wait! You have a better chance of finding those seventy-two virgins.
Signed, Chuck Pitman
Lieutenant General, USMC
Now, then, so you cant FLAME it AGAIN >>>>
READ THIS IDIOT, Outlander >>>>
Chas
Posted June 9, 2008 at 4:56 pm | Permalink
L J — The Bible doesnt require belief in the “virgin birth”
outlander
Posted June 9, 2008 at 8:16 pm | Permalink
Well Chas, I thought that you were full of crap with that post about the virgin birth not being in the Bible. But I thought, why not give Chas a chance to explain himself?
So I did. And sure enough, I was right to start with.
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NO Outlander — Sure enough, you werer WRONG, just like normal!! But, you wont admit to not reading…. will you??
A$$ WHOLE!!!
Ten seconds – proved you wrong, AmWay.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/pitman.asp
Liar.
Geez…so many angry Christians…
I wonder if the 12 apostles talked to each other this way..and what WOULD Jesus do if they did?
.
Chas
Posted June 9, 2008 at 4:56 pm | Permalink
L J — The Bible doesnt require belief in the “virgin birth”
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Please note, Troll Outlander…. This in no way says the “virgin birth” is not in the Bible…. It says ONLY that the Bible doesnt require belief in the “virgin birth”
Such a belief requirement is not in there!! Just as I posted earlier… IF YOU COULD OPEN YOUR NARROW MINDED EYES AND READ!!!
Oh, yea, and thinking would be good too!! LOL
“Ten seconds – proved you wrong, AmWay.”
Good catch on snopes. I should have checked it when I got the email. Thanx.
You are so funny Oedipus when you throw one of your frequent childish tantrums if it wasn’t so dangerous to have someone like you around kids.
Now I am being serious, very serious, how many people to you think would be comfortable knowing their child, that they love, was being exposed to someone that explodes in rage and post things like this.
“…….boxtop, the angry, white man who dances like the poodle he is on cue!
dance POODLE (boxtop) dance!!!!!!!!!!
dance POODLE (boxtop) dance!!!!!!!!!!
dance POODLE (boxtop) dance!!!!!!!!!!
dance POODLE (boxtop) dance!!!!!!!!!!”
(That’s one for the file)
That level of immaturity is scary when you think of a loved one being exposed to him. Or anyone’s else’s child for that matter. He is showing himself to be extremely unstable mentally.
I would ask anybody that possesses any civic responsibility, and knows this nut, to seriously consider monitoring and reporting him for his unstable behavior.
Mary, some of these people intentionally try to twist everything, and it just makes me get really pissed sometimes… Sorry if it bothers you… But just read what Outlander tried to pull… Maybe you can see why I am upset…. then again, maybe not!!
Good job Clark… You beat me to it by a couple minutes… WTG!!!
And, ummm… Thanks AmWay – for admitting the error!!
Hope still holds an open door!!
Chas…it really doesn’t bother me, I just think it’s a huge waste of time.
Goodnite!
Boxlock
Posted June 9, 2008 at 9:53 pm | Permalink
You are so funny Oedipus when you throw one of your frequent childish tantrums if it wasn’t so dangerous to have someone like you around kids.
Now I am being serious, very serious, how many people to you think would be comfortable knowing their child, that they love, was being exposed to someone that explodes in rage and post things like this.
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There is NO Oedipus posting here… Are you sure you have the right universe??
Chas,
Nice try.
I wish the USD259 meetings televised on cable showed more. Maybe I could have picked him out if he was there.
“I would ask anybody that possesses any civic responsibility, and knows this nut, to seriously consider monitoring and reporting him for his unstable behavior.”
But, who do we report you to, Box? You have asked us to report a nut, but what is the addy that we need to send our letters and e-mails to so that we can report you?
Can you help us out?
Boxlock
Posted June 9, 2008 at 10:03 pm | Permalink
Chas,
Nice try.
I wish the USD259 meetings televised on cable showed more. Maybe I could have picked him out if he was there.
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Are you always this delusional, or do you just save it for the Blog??
Oh poor, poor Chas. You are so misunderstood. Of course, you do know that you bring it all on yourself. You are deliberately unclear, ambiguous, and a true weasel when you are wrong, which is often. I think you do it on purpose. Otherwise, no one could manage to reach the levels of inanity that you display. Bottom line is that you are a very strange person.
But enough. You sir, are truly a waste of my time.
Chas
Posted June 9, 2008 at 4:56 pm | Permalink
L J — The Bible doesnt require belief in the “virgin birth”
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Outlander — what is ambiguous about this?? The only amazing thing about this is that you didnt read it right, and went on your normal style of Flaming spree… And you got your butt handed to you!!
Chuckle… The Bible is a book, you goof. It can’t require anything. But it does read in unambiguous terms that Christ was born of a virgin. Whether you believe it, alleged Christian minister, is up to you.
Even now you want to keep flaming?? OK… Here it is — plain and simple — There is NO VERSE in the Bible that requires one to believe in the virgin birth… THAT is what I already said, for anybody who has a half a brain to think with….
So sorry I forgot about half-wits like you reading in… Now, just DROP it… idiot!!
“The Bible is a book”
Well, finally some honesty.
AMEN Clark!!
boxtop, the dancing poodle, is dangerously DELUSIONAL!
The USD 259 BOE meetings are not broadcast live!
What an idiot!
….put that in your fracking file!
I gave you the name of the General Counsel for the State BOE………..call him and file a complaint!
dance POODLE (boxtop) dance!!!!!!!!!!
dance POODLE (boxtop) dance!!!!!!!!!!
dance POODLE (boxtop) dance!!!!!!!!!!
dance POODLE (boxtop) dance!!!!!!!!!!
I’m off to bed…………
There is NO VERSE in the Bible that requires one to believe in the virgin birth
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More inanity from Chas.
What if there were one, alleged Christian minister? How would it make any difference? You either believe what the Bible says or you don’t. If there were another verse that said you have to believe what the rest of the Bible says, why would you believe that verse if you don’t believe the Bible anyway?
Inanity gives me a headache.
I will try again (3rd time)
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ANTI
Posted June 9, 2008 at 10:25 pm | Permalink
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Clark, I responded to your confusion about evolution way up thread it got deleted. I was referring to the big b a n g theory. Maybe saying BIG B A N G is not allowed. Anyway, I was referencing the BIG B A N G theory and not evolution for creation. So I will restate- BIG B A N G not evolution. Maybe this post with the words BIG B A N G will stay up longer than the last BIG B A N G post.
Cheers,
ANTI
“Clark, I responded to your confusion about evolution”
Sorry, I am not confused about evolution in any manner.
And my acceptance of evolution does not dimish my belief in God.
Baby-hating extremist Obamanation last year promised Planned Parenthood abortion mills to sign the so-called Freedom of Choice Act, which could wipe away every state law limiting abortion, undoing decades of legal work, research and educational successes.
Obamanation has falsely claimed his is not pro-abortion, but his unstated major goal is to maximize abortion mill profits, a cash cow for Democrats. He is bucking the sentiments of the majority of Americans, while hiding behind deceptive rhetoric.
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Phill Kline’s hat is IN. Planned Parenthood’s criminal second-trimester Overland Park abortion mill is DOOMED. We’ve all seen some of the published criminal evidence already. The criminal conspiracy can’t hide the evidence any more, even if they did swill taxpayer-funded steak and lobster at Cedar Crest.
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Flashback – see former disgraced AG Morrison repeatedly lie through his teeth in his June, 2007 news conference.
See youtube page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlwZx-f8WOI
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Giraffes are kosher. They taste like chicken, we may suppose.
(Leviticus 11:3-7; Deuteronomy 14:6-8)
Clark I said nothing of the sort.
“Clark I said nothing of the sort.”
Huh?
Clark this is the original post I believe you mis-took for an attack on evolution-
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ANTI
Posted June 9, 2008 at 4:46 pm | Permalink
Ex. A Great being created everything or a speck of dust which held all matter in what is here today exploded and created everything. (don’t ask where the speck came from)
Which one is crazier? It depends on what you have faith in.
In the second example I was referencing the Big B a n g Theory (both examples simplistically of course) It seems from your reply that you thought I was referring to evolution:
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WSClark
Posted June 9, 2008 at 4:49 pm | Permalink
“(don’t ask where the speck came from)”
Duh, for the 941st time, evolution has never attempted to answer the question as to the origins of life.
You comment would be a “strawman.”
Duh, for the 941st time, evolution has never attempted to answer the question as to the origins of life.
You comment would be a “strawman.”
*****
Anti,
Yours would be sadly misinformed. But, nothing new, right?
Misinformed in terms of what a strawman fallacy is, too.
Plus you are just plain Stupid.
We have a TRI-fecta Winner!!!!
http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html#burden
Hey, Jackass(SED)- the discussion had nothing to do with evolution! it wasn’t even mentioned until Clark misunderstood my comment, which is why I clarified it! What is your point psycho?
Which makes your clam to Jewish ancestry, nothing.
zip
nada
*****
Get that Clark, you are a nothing Jewish Clam.
Does that mean if I go to Long John Silvers, I won’t get the Clark special any more? I will be heart broken. :))
ANTI
Posted June 9, 2008 at 11:16 pm | Permalink
Hey, Jackass(SED)- the discussion had nothing to do with evolution! it wasn’t even mentioned until Clark misunderstood my comment, which is why I clarified it! What is your point psycho?
*****
You are the psycho, asshole. You are so thoughtful for clarifying your insane comments, mofo.
Please ESAD. Thanks.
Steve-O
Also your referenced site, you know http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/ seems to be organized and designed by someone with little computer experience(claims otherwise), believes in UFO’s, psychics, Scientology, and other kookery. You are in good company.
As you said, Outlander, The Bible is a Book… who can believe a Book?
StevenEDavis
Posted June 9, 2008 at 11:16 pm | Permalink
Which makes your clam to Jewish ancestry, nothing.
zip
nada
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Get that Clark, you are a nothing Jewish Clam.
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Steven E. Davis, a kook and a racist….
Nothing worse than a TROLL who tries to turn a typo into another subject… What is the Blog World coming to??
Chas,
So do you believe in the Virgin Birth?
Why or why not?
“So do you believe in the Virgin Birth?”
Oh, for Christ’s sake, give it a rest.
Damn.
Steven,
Just for clarification, what did you mean by “ESAD”
WS Clark,
Chas has gone back and forth with outlander this evening on the subject.
Chas is vague and never clear on what he says.
What better way to clear up the air than to simply tell us what the alleged Christian minisiter actually believes?
Ditto Clark!!
Nathan, I believe Steven was requesting a meal of feces for me to consume and then die.
Chas,
Is there anything which you think we are required to believe according to the Bible?
Here is an example of the alleged Christian Minister at work:
“NO Outlander — Sure enough, you werer WRONG, just like normal!! But, you wont admit to not reading…. will you??
A$$ WHOLE!!!”
Do your superiors know you talk like this? Would they approve?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_does_fertilization_occur
http://www.americanpregnancy.org/infertility/ivf.html
Chas,
Do you or don’t you believe in the virgin birth of Jesus?
Such a simple question.
Chas is a fraud, therefore he will not answer. Case closed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_cloning
Chas,
Why would you, someone who claims to be a Christian minister, hide from such a simple question?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_birth
Anti,
I know what the common meaning for “ESAD” is.
However, I wouldn’t want to go through antoher Chas episode where he said “STFU” meant: Stand The Floor Up.
http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/virgin.html
Chas,
Will you stop posting links and give a straight answer to the question?
“Although the virgin birth cannot be understood as a historical-biological event, it can be regarded as a meaningful symbol at least for that time.” Hans Küng, “On Being a Christian,”
http://www.religioustolerance.org/virgin_b.htm
see numerous listings at this link… most interesting reading from numeroius viewpoints… including Islam…
Chas,
Do you or don’t you believe in the virgin birth?
“Most modern liberal theologians have generally rejected the virgin birth. They regard it as a religious myth that was added to Christian belief in the late first century CE and was triggered by a Greek mistranslation of the book of Isaiah from the original Hebrew. Its purpose was to make Christianity more competitive with contemporary Pagan religions in the Mediterranean region, most of whom featured their founder having being born of a virgin. Without the claim of a virgin birth, it is unclear whether Christianity could have survived.”
http://www.religioustolerance.org/virgin_b.htm
Do you agree with this link you posted:
http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/virgin.html
If not then why did you post it?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/09/0925_020925_virginshark.html
Chas,
I am going to assume that you don’t believe in the virgin birth since everything you are posting is going against it.
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Nathaniel
Posted June 10, 2008 at 12:07 am | Permalink
Anti,
I know what the common meaning for “ESAD” is.
However, I wouldn’t want to go through antoher Chas episode where he said “STFU” meant: Stand The Floor Up.
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Yes, I know…I am still in shock that a grown man claiming to be a preacher would come up with that definition to slime out of a comment…pathetic… but it still makes me chuckle…LOL ROFL ect.! A side note- Thank you for your service to this country! It seems lately (read forever) the Left thinks that doesn’t matter much.
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/james_still/virgin_birth.html
I will also conclude that I now have even more reason to say you are no Christian.
You posted a link to this website:
http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/virgin.html
This is what that website also concluded:
The gospels were not written by eyewitnesses.
The names attached to the gospels are second century guesses.
The nativity accounts are 100% fiction.
The one account of his childhood is more likely a fictional creation by Luke based on Old Testament passages.
There are major problems with all the major events in his life: the Baptism by John, the temptation in the wilderness and even whether there were actually twelve apostles.
None of the miracle accounts seems credible. The nature miracles and the epiphanies are obviously false, while many of the healings are unimpressive and could be explained by non-miraculous means.
Jesus’s teachings were not that much different from the teachings of other major religious traditions and were well within the tradition of various contemporaneous Jewish itinerant preachers.
His personality was probably not that attractive: the evidence points to the fact that he was, like most Jewish preachers of his time, a xenophobic, rather fanatical, Jew.
He never claimed to be God.
Many events surrounding the “passion week” are of dubious historicity.
The account of Jesus’ trial before the Sanhedrin is obviously fiction as it contradicts everything we know about the procedures of the council.
The trial before Pilate is largely fictional as well.
The accounts of Jesus’ crucifixion read like fiction.
The accounts of the burial and resurrection could not be true as they stand for they contradict one another openly.
You are no Christian Chas.
http://www.infidels.org, you have to be kidding Chas…..really?
Anti,
Thanks. I love being a Marine. I love doing the things Marines do.
I will be a Marine until I retire.
Unfortunately, there are those few people here who no matter what I do it will never be good enough for them.
Be proud of what you do Nathan because America is proud of our soldiers. And with that I leave for the evening. Goodnight all.
Well, it appears as if the coward Chas will sulk away from any questions once again.
For someone who claims to be a Christian, Chas sure doesn’t believe anything that Christians do.
Christian? Not at all.
Minister? Probably, but the most vulgar and prone to throw temper tanrums I have ever dealt with.
Nathan is clearly delusional, by believing that one only posts a link to what one believes… speaks volumes of Nathan’s own personal self-undestanding…. Very sad indeed!!
Lots of good reading in those posts, folks!!
Enjoy!!
Good night; Good luck; God bless –
Whatever you conceive God to be!!
Blessings ALL!!
So mote it be!!
Just for Nathan >>>>>
Nicene Creed
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I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds; God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God; begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made.
Who, for us men for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; He suffered and was buried; and the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures; and ascended into heaven, and sits on the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again, with glory, to judge the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end.
And I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of Life; who proceeds from the Father [and the Son]; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets.
And I believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church. I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; and I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
http://www.ccel.org/creeds/nicene.creed.html
NICENE CREED – Historical Note
In the first three centuries, the church found itself in a hostile environment. On the one hand, it grappled with the challenge of relating the language of the gospel, developed in a Hebraic and Jewish-Christian context, to a Graeco-Roman world. On the other hand, it was threatened not only by persecution, but also by ideas that were in conflict with the biblical witness.
In A.D. 312, Constantine won control of the Roman Empire in the battle of Milvian Bridge.
Attributing his victory to the intervention of Jesus Christ, he elevated Christianity to favored status in the empire. “One God, one Lord, one faith, one church, one empire, one emperor” became his motto.
The new emperor soon discovered that “one faith and one church” were fractured by theological disputes, especially conflicting understandings of the nature of Christ, long a point of controversy. Arius, a priest of the church in Alexandria, asserted that the divine Christ, the Word through whom all things have their existence, was created by God before the beginning of time. Therefore, the divinity of Christ was similar to the divinity of God, but not of the same essence. Arius was opposed by the bishop, Alexander, together with his associate and successor, Athanasius. They affirmed that the divinity of Christ, the Son, is of the same substance as the divinity of God, the Father. To hold otherwise, they said, was to open the possibility of polytheism, and to imply that knowledge of God in Christ was not final knowledge of God.
To counter a widening rift within the church, Constantine convened a council in Nicaea in A.D. 325. A creed reflecting the position of Alexander and Athanasius was written and signed by a majority of the bishops. Nevertheless, the two parties continued to battle each other. In A.D. 381, a second council met in Constantinople. It adopted a revised and expanded form of the A.D. 325 creed, now known as the Nicene Creed.
The Nicene Creed is the most ecumenical of creeds. The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) joins with Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholic, and most Protestant churches in affirming it. Nevertheless, in contrast to Eastern Orthodox churches, the western churches state that the Holy Spirit proceeds not only from the Father, but from the Father and the Son (Latin, filioque). To the eastern churches, saying that the Holy Spirit proceeds from both Father and Son threatens the distinctiveness of the person of the Holy Spirit; to the western churches, the filioque guards the unity of the triune God. This issue remains unresolved in the ecumenical dialogue.
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Quoted from The Constitution of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), Part I, Book of Confessions; Geneva Press, Louisville, KY. Copyright ©1996 by the Office of the General Assembly, Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.). All rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced without the prior permission of the publisher, except as noted.
http://www.creeds.net/ancient/Nicene_Intro.htm
Multi-nic’d ‘Regular‘,
Aren’t you going to answer the 2 easy questions in my 6:21 pm post?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/06/open-thread-69/#comment-365994
An A$$ WHOLE is a completed one of these >>>>
A$ WHOL
Is the self-proclaimed deity pretending to be a Christian? Give it up Nathan, nobody is going to worship you to satisfy your big ego. You simply wield religion as another tool to bully other people.
Those aren’t my words, my Lord Jesus Christ told me as much.
CHOICES, CHOICES, CHOICES!!
What with Ted Kennedy suffering the brain tumor; and the other Senator from the Dakota’s not in the greatest of health, Obama should possibly avoid looking at Senators as running mates.
He haas a fairly wide choice among some Governors – perhaps members of the House – Maybe somebody from business, industry, or even higher education. How about the woman from Missouri who went to bat for stem cell research? What about Wesley Clark? So many think Obama is a light-weight on military — Clark would possibly give some balance.
What about the Governor of Arizona?? Might put some heat on McCain’s home state!
However, Bill Richarson would be a very broad-based choice — International diplomacy; Border state expertise; hispanic vote magnet —
Many choices — but also still time for some very careful considerations.
I over-heard the other day a couple of lawyerly types discussing this; and one said perhaps Obama should consider Caroline Kennedy; while the other suggested the son of former President, Jimmy Carter —
My lady friend asked about the possibility of somebody like Robert Redford — who is an active Democrat activist, and according to some early reports, had considered a run for the Presidency in 2007.
Many choices — Any of them could be a significant presence on this year’s political stage.
As for McCain, he should perhaps consider highly some folks who have good stage presence; not highly controversial; perhaps female; such as Kay Bailey Hutchison, or Christie Todd Whitman; or even Sandra Day O’Connor(hey, I didnt come up with that — a friend of mine did!)
McCain might also think about somebody like Chuck Grassley, or Chuck Hagel(Nebraska) — Or perhaps somebody the caliber of Norman Schwarzkopf — I heard a radio talk show caller suggest even David Petreus — One sports show caller the other day mentioned Curt Shilling, Boston Red Sox pitcher, and Republican Party activist. Another possibility mentioned recently was the current Sec’y. of Defense, Gates(ties to Kansas, but more favorable than Brownback)
I would not envy anybody the position of advising either candidate on a VP choice, as topsy turvy as this race will be —
I just hope that whoever the choices are, they would be capable of stepping into the Big Chair at any time, should the tragedy happen, and the Top Man could not continue!
“The USD 259 BOE meetings are not broadcast live!”
I didn’t say I was watching live, it is recorded live and shown later, and maybe if more of the scene were shown I maybe I could have scanned the crowd later for the wild eyed hysterical misfit. But since they show little except for the board and the individual speaker that will probably not be available.
…………now the dancing poodle, boxtop, has decided that I am “wild eyed hysterical misfit”.
Have you looked in the mirror lately?
I must say Chas, for once, nicely done.
You finally seem to be handling Nathan the way I thought a person in your position should be handling him, rather than by typing in caps the equivalent of STOP IT(!!!!). By demonstrating that the history of Christianity and Christian creed(s) is far more complicated than simply taking the Bible literally (particularly considering that what is called the Bible is a series of documents translated by hand for centuries by people who made mistakes and sometimes felt compelled to make “corrections”, and that the books in the Bible were selected in a very political meeting arranged by Constantine). The kind of Biblical literalism that Nathan subscribes to is historically quite new, and the “you are not a Christian” argument by the doctrines that Nathan assumes is the worst sort of question begging.
I found it interesting that you resisted the urge to respond to the attempts by both Anti and Nathan to provoke you in their references to previous posting behavior (which were totally irrelvant to the subject at hand).
I particularly liked this response from you:
“Nathan is clearly delusional, by believing that one only posts a link to what one believes…”
I wouldn’t have made the “delusional” comment, but the point still stands.
“SquarePeg” muses about John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd Term) vice-presidential dilemma.
“…McCain…should perhaps consider highly some folks who have good stage presence; not highly controversial; perhaps female; such as Kay Bailey Hutchison, or Christie Todd Whitman; or even Sandra Day O’Connor(hey, I didnt come up with that — a friend of mine did!)”
O’Conner is as old (or older) than McSame. Constitutionally, the Vice-Presidential can’t come from the same states as the standard-bearer. That’s why (The Big) Dick Cheney reestablished residency in Wyoming in 2000 to run
withShrub.Further, the primary reason O’Conner retired from the SCOTUS was to tend to her husband who was debilitated by Alzheimer’s Disease. The prospect of doing the same with doddering old McBush probably wouldn’t be appealing.
Louisiana’s Bobby Jindal might be a choice — a person of color, young. But that would negate attacks on Obama’s youth.
Florida Governor Charlie Crist might be on a short list. Important, big, southern state, and all that. But Charlie “hasn’t found a nice young lady to marry and settle down with. (wink wink).” Not sure how that would sit with the Dobson and Perkins crowd. (Although, it’d be interesting to see Second Lady Lynn Cheney replaced by a strapping young pool boy.)
Whitman still has a bad taste in her mouth about the way her service at EPA was subverted by BushCo. She’d be asked a lot of uncomfortable questions about that and just might answer them. Hutchison is a ditz; a bunch of campaign gaffes waiting to happen.
I doubt if any sitting Senator will be selected by either party.
Grassley is almost as old as McBush. Hagel’s stance on the Iraq War won’t play, what with McCain’s commitment to another hundred years of war.
I doubt if Schwarzkopf or Petreus have the political chops to get the nod. Gates is an interesting consideration but he, too, is too closely associated with Shrub’s little Iraqi adventure.
“I just hope that whoever the choices are, they would be capable of stepping into the Big Chair at any time, should the tragedy happen, and the Top Man could not continue!”
Most years, the Vice-Presidential nominee is a two-day story and an afterthought for most voters. The next President has to stress that the next Vice-President will not be (The Big) Dick Cheney’s 3rd term, either. Or Dan Quayle’s 2nd.
I am convinced that the biggest threat to this country is the maniacal rants and raves of the like of Nathanial, Regular, HLP, Boxlicker …… 24 / 7 it’s all about them and if you’re not them you are to be vilified and hated ——
Nathan enjoys being a marine — but he only does it part time —- so he really isn’t having the same experience as active duty Marines have — yet he wants us to believe that he is a hero warrior …. (regular and hlp also) …. sorry nat too many have sacrificed so much more than you to be called hero —– I suspect the government through the gi bill and other benefits, is paying for at least 75% of your education (taxpayers paid for ALL of McCains college education)—- thats for a part timer, yet he opposes any increase in aid for soldiers / veterans attending school … He’s got his …..
ANTI (thought, apparently) asks, “Lost most of her legs and ended up four inches shorter??? Jeezzz was she only 12? high to begin with? How short must one be to loose (sic) most of your legs and only loose (sic, again) 4? in height?”
I think she was 4 inches shorter after she was fitted with prothesis, but thanks for your concerned sympathy for abandoned wife Carol McCain.
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Boxlock tries to equate liberalism with sexual license. How then does one explain Neil Bush contracting herpes from a Chinese whore and then passing it on to his then-wife?
Liberalism, I suppose . . .