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Shall we start it up again this morning?
…..science denial?
…..the reichwing hatred of community schools?
Get that WORD file open boxtop!
Mercy sakes!! LOL what an opening!! LOL
Two Iraqi Shiite Militia Leaders Surrender During U.S. Raids, Al-Maliki to Visit Iran
Friday, June 06, 2008
BAGHDAD — Two suspected Shiite militia leaders surrendered Friday during American raids on their homes south of Baghdad, the U.S. military said.
One of the men is suspected of ordering attacks on U.S. troops, directing the kidnapping of Iraqis and smuggling Iranian weapons and Katyusha rockets into Iraq, according to a statement from the military. The other suspect tried to flee by wading through an irrigation canal, before surrendering.
The U.S. said the men were members of Iranian-backed “special groups” — language the American military uses to describe Shiite fighters defying a cease-fire order by anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
Some of the men are believed to have fled recent fighting in the Shiite militia stronghold of Sadr City, but others have been based for years in swaths of overwhelmingly Shiite territory south of the Iraqi capital. The area is home to several of Shiite Islam’s holiest shrines.
Such arrests have become an almost daily occurrence in Iraq, where U.S. forces are seeking to thwart the movement of Iranian weapons into Iraq. Washington accuses Iran of arming and training Shiite militiamen, but Tehran denies that.
The campaign of arrests was likely to be on the agenda for talks when Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki travels Saturday to Tehran for his second trip there in a year.
He is expected to discuss with Iranian leaders Washington’s accusations of Iranian meddling in Iraq, as well as a proposed security agreement between the U.S. and Iraq.
The deal, which the Iraqis and Americans hope to finish by midsummer, would establish a long-term security relationship between Iraq and the United States, and a parallel agreement would provide a legal basis to keep U.S. troops in Iraq after the U.N. mandate expires at the end of the year.
cont’d at
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,363611,00.html
…………a copy/paste from FAUX Noise, that’s what I call a “credible, unbiased” source!
NOT!
It is an AP article, Apophis. You say the AP is not a “credible unbiased” source?
….the link was:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,363611,00.html
I think that means FAUX Noise.
Quit the reichwing spin on everthing.
Two Iraqi Shiite Militia Leaders Surrender During U.S. Raids, Al-Maliki to Visit Iran
Friday, June 06, 2008
Associated Press
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,363611,00.html
Article is FOX —- Picture is AP Geez, its gonna be a Lonnnngggg day!!
Chas, here is the same article from an AP source:
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-iraq,0,4932927.story
You are right it is going to be a long day unless you learn to read.
Well, looks like the Iraqi’s dont want us there any more… LOL… Hang in there AP staff… We’ll get out soon now!!
(puts in Brother Chas’s future reply here for Hud)
Idiot! I said the pictures were AP. I didn’t say the articles wasn’t AP, just said it was Fox! Learn to read, dumbass! Stupid reichwingers!
(chortles)
Wow, such Trolling, and so friggin early too!!
Actually, Hud, they are two different articles… LOL…. Same subject matter though!! Nice try!~!
Awful early for Reguliar’s sock puppets isn’t it? Of course the his pants puppet doesn’t get up at all!
Chas
Read them. While the Fox news article is edited a bit different, they are the same article.
Thus, “technically,” you’re talking out of your ass. Again.
And I’d say Regular’s got you pegged in his 7:28 post just about right – except, Regular, you forgot to all caps a couple of expletives. All caps “dumbass” and I think you’re dead on there.
How funny…I post “Republican = pervert” and then moments later I read that the boxlicker is compiling dossiers on some of the bloggers.
Play footsie in public bathrooms much boxboy?
……………….boxtop is a legend in his own mind!
Add that comment to my “file”!
Abortion
Life is Sacred
by Lisa Brock
For some women, discovering they are expecting a child is one of the happiest moments of their lives. For others — especially those who aren’t married and aren’t ready to become parents — it seems like the beginning of a nightmare. If you are pregnant with a child you didn’t plan to have, how do you make decisions about what is best for you and your unborn baby?
Research.
Pregnancy directly affects your life and the life of your newly conceived child. Though you can easily see and feel the changes in your body, your child’s development is more of a mystery. Even as he grows inside your body, your baby is a tiny person with feelings, behaviors and a personality. He can hear, taste, smell, hiccup and even suck his thumb. Find out from a doctor what he ’s really like before you make decisions about his life.
Get some wise advice.
Often caring parents and friends are good resources. Sometimes it’s easier to talk with your pastor or someone at a pregnancy resource center. Whomever you decide to speak with, make sure it’s someone who will help you consider all the moral and emotional aspects of the road you will choose. The hormones and extreme emotions of pregnancy make reasonable decisions more difficult. Don ‘t make your choice without the advice of someone you can trust to lead you down the best possible path.
Consider your own life.
Spending nine months pregnant with a child you don’t think you are prepared to parent can be difficult, but taking your unborn child ’s life is a decision you can never reverse. Should you choose to terminate your pregnancy, you will likely suffer from guilt, remorse and grief, possibly for many years to come. In addition, abortion can cause medical complications that may make it impossible for you to become pregnant when you think you are ready to be a parent. You may be making a decision affecting not only this child, but also your future children.
Consider the life of your child.
Expected or unexpected, every child deserves to be loved. Just like you, your unborn baby deserves a chance at a happy life. As you make a decision about what to do next, listen to your heart, like your baby does; he hears it beating all the time.
Copyright © 2002 Lisa Brock. Used by permission.
http://www.family.org/lifechallenges/A000000125.cfm
KansasNAIVE,
Who’s the liar this morning, or are you simply so brain dead you can’t remember calling me on mis-using nicks the other day?
Here you went first, dumb ass!
The Naive;
“the boxlicker is compiling dossiers on some of the bloggers.”
Boxboy, when you broke your word to me about misusing my nic, the deal became null and void.
YOU are the one who’s word is crap.
Only an insecure man uses his children’s careers to pretend that his life has meaning.
Get a real life boxlick!
The question about the article is whether it is true and actuate, the source is less important.
You can not dismiss everything from Fox as being a total lie, they do quote other sources too.
Often the problem with Fox is not the news they report as much as the spin they put on it afterwards.
E.D. is the classic example of it, she will lead into a report then her reaction afterwards is the comical part.
“THIS IS OUTRAGES! A DIRECT ASSAULT ON THE DEFENSE OF THIS NATION”.
“E.D… ahh the kid spilt a cup of milk?”.
“Also Friday, a homicide bomber that Iraqi police said they believed was a woman exploded herself near a checkpoint in a village outside Ramadi, wounding two policemen. Police said they were searching for another woman who fled the scene and may have been a second bomber.”
That little item there sorta got edited out of the Newsday article… You still think they are the same??? Hmmmm????
Except for the little FACT, that the Fox link doesnt acknowledge the AP writers, as does the Newsday link… Sooo if the articles have different authors, they must not be the same article, eh?? Oh, and there are other differences besides the one I quoted above…
So, lets not have you people start your friggin lying this early, huh??
Ya know, GMC… for a legal beagle, you sure dont give a rip about accuracy, UNLESS you want to try to belittle somebody whoh disagrees with you… THEN that person cannot make ANY mistakes!!! But when YOU cant read two articles, and see by plainly looking at them, that they are different articles, with different slants… although they cover the same general subject…. then as a legal beagle, YOU got problems!!
“Chas” notes about “GMC70″ –
“…as a legal beagle, YOU got problems!!”
I imagine “GMC70″ as a kid watched “Perry Mason” reruns after school and kept rooting for Hamilton Berger.
“He’s due, man! He’s due to win one!”
Good News for Hillary!
http://obambi.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/puma/
Obambi Joins The Puma Party (Party Unity My Ass un-Party)
http://blog.pumapac.org/
Great Obama Web site!
http://obambi.wordpress.com/
Congratulations DNC!!!
You made sure to keep Michigan voters and Florida out of it from the beginning all the way until you made sure Obambi had the lead, to ensure Clinton won’t get any sort of lead or momentum across the country.
You tried all you can to show Clinton she is no longer the force in the DNC for personal grudges you had against her.
It was a personal battle against Clinton than it was to elect Obama –because we all know every single DNC elitist and super delegate knows Hillary Clinton is more electable than that idiot Mascot — but you had grudges against her and Bill from calling the shots of the DNC.
So DNC, thanks for giving the party another McGovern, another Dukakis, another Jimmy Carter and just like Nancy Pelosi’s failed leadership in Washington, this jacking of the nomination for Obama at all costs, will backfire and you, not Hillary Clinton, divided the party!
Instead of donating to your party, our money is going to buy stock in companies that manufacture teleprompters, it’s going to be a very lucrative business the next 5 months for your mascot.
Congratulations DNC!!!
You F*ck up again, like you do every four years before ‘92 and after 2000.
Bill Clinton and the Clinton’s are the DNC and your power hungry idiots from Dean, Pelosi to Wexler in an attempt to hijack the DNC through sexism, paid off media and corruption didn’t go unnoticed.
We saw. We took note.
Obama divided the party while you managed through spin it at all costs.
We saw. We took note.
17,785,009 will not forgive you, DNC!
Gee Max…tell us all about YOUR guy…the great, the wonderful, the old pervert McShame (the third coming of Bush).
Too funny Monkey!! LOL
Oh, I found this interesting ASSOCIATED PRESS news article!
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gkx-3oYeFwuWKCusr2jrojs98w8wD914OL800
2 Shiite extremists surrender in Iraq
By SAMEER N. YACOUB – 20 hours ago
BAGHDAD (AP) — Two Shiite militia leaders surrendered to American soldiers Friday, while tens of thousands of supporters of hard-line Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr streamed out of mosques to protest against an agreement which could keep U.S. troops here for years.
The arrests and demonstrations occurred on the eve of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s trip to Shiite-dominated Iran, his second visit there in a year.
U.S. officials allege that Iran is arming and training Shiite militiamen and encouraging a public campaign in Iraq against the proposed U.S.-Iraq security agreement, which the Iranians oppose.
One of those who surrendered early Friday allegedly ordered attacks on U.S. troops, directed the kidnapping of Iraqis and helped smuggle Iranian weapons into Iraq, the U.S. military said in a statement.
The other tried to escape by wading through an irrigation canal before turning himself over to U.S. soldiers.
Names of the suspects were not released, but both were members of Iranian-backed “special groups,” the U.S. command said. The term is used by the American military to describe Shiite fighters who have defied al-Sadr’s cease-fire order that ended seven weeks of fighting in Baghdad last month.
Iran denies arming the extremists, and it is unclear whether significant numbers of al-Sadr’s Mahdi Army militia are really beyond his control.
U.S. and Iraqi troops have been trying to block the movement of Iranian weapons into Iraq through a series of raids in mostly Shiite areas south of Baghdad.
Allegations of Iranian links to Shiite militants and the proposed U.S.-Iraqi security agreement are expected to figure prominently in al-Maliki’s talks, which begin Saturday. No timetable for the visit has been released because of security concerns.
The deal, which the Iraqis and Americans hope to finish by midsummer, would establish a long-term security relationship between Iraq and the United States. The two sides are also negotiating a parallel agreement to provide a legal basis for keeping U.S. troops in Iraq after the U.N. mandate expires at the end of the year.
Supporters believe the deal would guarantee U.S. support as Iraq seeks to cement the security gains of the past year. It would also help assure Iraq’s Arab neighbors, notably Saudi Arabia, that Iraq’s Shiite-led government would not become an Iranian satellite.
U.S. officials have released no details about the negotiations, which began last March.
But leaks by Iraqi authorities have triggered a storm of protest, with critics complaining that the terms would solidify American military, economic and political domination of the country for decades.
Iraqi officials also complain that the deal would enable U.S. troops and officials to continue to enjoy immunity from prosecution under Iraqi law and allow the Americans to conduct military operations without clearing them with the Iraqi government.
Al-Maliki’s Dawa party has described the talks as stalled, and prominent parliamentarians from Shiite, Sunni and Kurdish parties have written to the U.S. Congress to express their opposition to the proposed agreement, which must be approved by the Iraqi legislature.
But the most outspoken opponents have been from al-Sadr’s political movement, which has long opposed the presence of foreign forces on Iraqi soil.
Al-Sadr is believed living in the Iranian city of Qom. Sheik Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Iranian-backed Hezbollah movement in Lebanon, has also denounced the agreement. All that has led to U.S. suspicions of an orchestrated Iranian campaign.
In Tehran, prayer leader Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati told worshippers Friday the U.S.-Iraq agreement would surely fail.
“The Iraqi nation will not accept it. … If it is signed, it will separate the Iraqi government from its people,” Jannati said.
But in Iraq’s Shiite holy city of Najaf, cleric Sadralddin al-Qubanji said the agreement could be acceptable, but only if it included a date for the withdrawal of U.S. troops.
“This agreement is not blasphemy. … If it guarantees the withdrawal of the occupation, we are with it, but if it gives the occupation deeper roots, we reject it,” he told worshippers.
At another mosque in nearby Kufa, thousands of faithful filing out of Friday prayers erupted into an impromptu demonstration, chanting “No, America, no! Iraq will not be an American colony!”
Thousands more filed out of mosques in Sadr City, waving photos of al-Sadr and unfurling banners protesting the proposed pact. “As long as Muqtada opposes it, no agreement will be signed!” some chanted.
A preacher in Kut told his mosque: “This agreement achieves the interests and the plans of the occupier.”
“It can never be applied as long as Muqtada and his followers are alive,” Sheik Najim al-Khafaji said.
Associated Press writers Nasser Karimi in Tehran and Lauren Frayer and Bushra Juhi in Baghdad contributed to this report.
Well, this has always been the Republican campaign strategy – never give us the positives of your candidate, just attack the Democratic candidate.
It worked in 1988, 2000 and 2004.
It ain’t gonna work this time.
Every time McCain shows up, it’s going to be “Four More Years!”
Here’s a photo of Clinton Kissing Up to Obama! (Sydney Morning Herald)
http://www.smh.com.au/news/us-election/hillary-clinton-reaches-end-of-the-line/2008/06/04/1212258860941.html
Another sock puppet come’s out of youknowwho’s zipper!
Cut n paste Max. Keep busy while Obama keeps winning votes and the election.
Ohhhh, Booooooooooo Hooooooooooo!
Clinton to Concede Nomination to Obama
Historic Bid’s End Leaves Supporters Wondering What Might Have Been
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5014885&page=1
(A VERY SAD HILLARY PHOTO) Heeeeeeeeeee Heeeeeeeee
Glad that you are at least watching and paying attention to WINNERS Max.
Sucks to have an old wornout pervert like McShame as a candidate.
And the alleged SAME article from Fox News >>
BAGHDAD — Two suspected Shiite militia leaders surrendered Friday during American raids on their homes south of Baghdad, the U.S. military said.
One of the men is suspected of ordering attacks on U.S. troops, directing the kidnapping of Iraqis and smuggling Iranian weapons and Katyusha rockets into Iraq, according to a statement from the military. The other suspect tried to flee by wading through an irrigation canal, before surrendering.
The U.S. said the men were members of Iranian-backed “special groups” — language the American military uses to describe Shiite fighters defying a cease-fire order by anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
Some of the men are believed to have fled recent fighting in the Shiite militia stronghold of Sadr City, but others have been based for years in swaths of overwhelmingly Shiite territory south of the Iraqi capital. The area is home to several of Shiite Islam’s holiest shrines.
Such arrests have become an almost daily occurrence in Iraq, where U.S. forces are seeking to thwart the movement of Iranian weapons into Iraq. Washington accuses Iran of arming and training Shiite militiamen, but Tehran denies that.
The campaign of arrests was likely to be on the agenda for talks when Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki travels Saturday to Tehran for his second trip there in a year.
He is expected to discuss with Iranian leaders Washington’s accusations of Iranian meddling in Iraq, as well as a proposed security agreement between the U.S. and Iraq.
The deal, which the Iraqis and Americans hope to finish by midsummer, would establish a long-term security relationship between Iraq and the United States, and a parallel agreement would provide a legal basis to keep U.S. troops in Iraq after the U.N. mandate expires at the end of the year.
Supporters believe the deal would help assure Iraq’s Arab neighbors, notably Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States, that Iraq’s Shiite-led government would not become a satellite of Iran, the largest Shiite nation, as the American military role here fades.
But critics in Iraq worry the deal will lock in American military, economic and political domination of the country. Some Iraqi politicians have attacked the deal, especially those loyal to al-Sadr, whose militiamen fought U.S. and Iraqi troops in Sadr City for seven weeks this spring, until a truce in May.
The cleric himself is believed to be living in the Iranian city of Qom.
Al-Maliki’s Dawa party has described talks over the U.S.-Iraqi security pact as stalled, with almost every provision under dispute.
The party has also sought to calm worries by insisting that the deal would not allow foreign troops to use Iraq as a ground to invade another country — a reference to Iranian fears of a U.S. attack.
The challenge for al-Maliki, himself a Shiite, is to maintain ties with Iran while at the same time ensuring his support from the United States. He needs to persuade the Iranians to rein in Shiite extremists but also assure them that security ties to the U.S. would not threaten the Islamic Republic.
Also Friday, a homicide bomber that Iraqi police said they believed was a woman exploded herself near a checkpoint in a village outside Ramadi, wounding two policemen. Police said they were searching for another woman who fled the scene and may have been a second bomber.
Ramadi is the capital of Iraq’s western Anbar province, which saw heavy fighting with Al Qaeda-linked militants until Sunni Arab sheiks began partnering with U.S. forces there in 2006.
The U.S. military issued three additional statements Friday saying its soldiers killed four suspects and captured more than 57 others in raids earlier in the week in Baghdad and across northern Iraq.
Scroll Over Max shows up again………………..
Gee, I’m all TORN up over Hillary toooooo.
Mean, Mad, Angry Feminists are all torn up too.
Close, but no CIGAR! Big progress though. Ha Ha
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/07/clintons_female_base_torn_over_loss/
Clinton’s female base torn over loss
Weighs impact of candidacy on the future
WASHINGTON – As Hillary Clinton officially acknowledges today that Barack Obama has bested her for the Democratic nomination, many leading feminists argue that even in defeat, Clinton’s run will smooth the path for future female contenders for the White House.
Obviously, the articles have different authors… But, apparently to some, that doesnt make any difference… So, what the hell…
Well
I continue to not count Hillary out.
But if she is? Well I guess SOME of you Obama supporters can deal with the knowledge that you have made “Max” and Sean Hannity, and Rush Limbaugh and other such dregs of humanity a happy day.
I’ll say it better later. But many in the media and SOME and I do say SOME of the Obama supporters have reminded me lately an awful lot of that goon squad outside the Naval Observatory in December 2000 screaming for Al Gore to get out of Dick Cheney’s house.
Hey Brother Chas,
I see you are in full mad dog denial once again.
But hey! Do be careful when you get a drink of water and that toliet lid doesn’t fall on your neck.
James, you dumbkopf, I am not the one who claimed the articles are the same… Now, I have posted the entirety of the Fox article, to PROVE they are different… And you say I am in denial??? What a friggin JOKE you and your goons are!! Just a sad JOKE!!
Brother Chas,
Have you knelt down to pray today? Or do you clasp your hands. Perhaps your a ‘raise your arms’ kind of guy?
I’m guessing the latter because I felt a sudden rush of wind, sort of like when a helicopter flies overhead.
whoomp, whoomp, whoomp, whoomp, whoomp
It isnt any small wonder that the reichwingers are all in a toot over Obama winning the nomination….
Think about it — They were salivating over the prospects of Hillary running… They could go pull out all of their CRAP about Ron Brown, and Vince Foster, and Whitewater, and who can forget — Monica!! And health care, and that village that we all rely on to raise our kids… because it used to be that if ya screwed up visiting at a friend’s house, you were gonna get yelled at there, and then get a whoopin when ya got home!! Yea, it used to be that kind of village!!
But now… with Obama as the nominee… they dont have all of those things to throw into the campaign…. No wonder they are so flamed over this great step forward in American politics!!
So what is it, James… you want me to pray, or do calesthentics??? ROFL!!!
Obama’s got his share of skeletons in his closet.
And he can’t hide from his FAR LEFT SOCIALIST record & his SOCIALIST plan for America.
Oh, and let’s not forget Obama’s attack on the Constitution.
http://www.nraila.net/Issues/Articles/Read.aspx?id=286
Standing Guard: Barack Obama’s Slippery Oratory
To understand Barack Obama on the Second Amendment, you have to know about the clash of character between the then-Chicago state senator and an ordinary citizen who exercised his right to armed self-defense in violation of a local gun ban.
That citizen was a 52-year-old resident of Wilmette, Illinois, who, on Dec. 28, 2003, woke to find that, during the night, his home had been invaded by a career criminal; a thief who stole household items, keys and the homeowner’s car.
The victim, Hale DeMar, described his fear in a letter to the Chicago Sun- Times: “For me, the seconds until I found my children still safely tucked in their beds were horrifying . . . The police were called and in routine fashion they came, took the report and with little concern left, promising to increase surveillance. Little comfort, since the invader now had keys to our home and our automobiles. The police informed me that this was not an uncommon event in east Wilmette and offered their condolences . . .” Not 24 hours after the first burglary, the thief returned. Using DeMar’s house keys, the man entered the home, this time setting off the alarm system, automatically notifying the security company. Given the previous night’s lackluster response by police, DeMar was prepared, armed with a handgun–legally purchased years before and kept in a safe. But under Wilmette’s gun ban, that firearm in the home was illegal.
DeMar confronted the criminal, and believing his children were in danger, shot the burglar, who then fled the home.
“Until you are shocked by a piercing alarm in the middle of the night and met in your kitchen by a masked invader as your children shudder in their beds, until you confront that very real nightmare, please don’t suggest that some village trustee knows better … “If my actions have spared only one family from the distress and trauma that this habitual criminal has caused hundreds of others, then I have served my civic duty and taken one evil creature off of our streets, something that our impotent criminal justice system had failed to do, despite some thirty odd arrests, plea bargains and suspended sentences.” The burglar, who was arrested after driving DeMar’s stolen SUV to a hospital, had an extensive criminal record.
Cook County prosecutors ultimately declared DeMar’s use of a firearm to be justified. But Wilmette village officials pressed nonetheless to prosecute him for illegal possession of his handgun–a charge punishable by a huge fine and jail time. A town official was quoted in Reason magazine saying, “We need to set the example that we’re trying to protect our citizens.” And he said, DeMar–by possessing a legally purchased handgun–“is endangering innocent civilians.” The outcry of the Illinois public was heard all the way to the state capitol.
As a result, the Illinois House and Senate passed legislation in May 2004 to protect citizens who use handguns in self-defense in their homes or businesses despite local handgun bans.
The House accepted the DeMar selfdefense bill by a vote of 86-25 and the Senate moved the legislation on a 38-20 vote.
And here lies the seminal moment for state Senator Barack Obama. When Obama turned thumbs down on the bill, he voted against the most basic element of the Second Amendment– the right of defense of self and family– the reason that millions of Americans own firearms.
When the governor vetoed the bill, Obama once again voted against a citizen’s right to self-defense. Despite his vote, the veto override passed the Senate and the House by overwhelming majorities, thereby enacting this bill into law.
Now, fast forward to today’s slippery oratory of U.S. Sen. Barack Obama just three years from being an unknown state senator–now morphed by the media into a spellbinding u.s. senator seeking to be president of the United States.
Using words like “protecting sportsmen,” Obama is now saying that he believes in the Second Amendment … but with almost universal exceptions, all of which he lists under the heading of “common sense gun safety laws.” “Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? Like endorsing the D.C. gun ban, which outlaws armed self-defense in the home–now being challenged before the u.s. Supreme Court. Obama, who as president would be in the position to nominate justices to that high court, has declared that the d.c. ban doesn’t violate the Second Amendment.
“Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? In a “1998 National Political Awareness Test,” he pledged to support a “Ban [on] the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons”–meaning most handguns and many rifles and shotguns that you and I own.
“Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? Like demanding that the federal government preempt the 40 hard-won state laws creating Right-to-Carry.
Here’s how the Chicago Tribune put it: “Obama said he opposed allowing ordinary citizens to carry concealed weapons and that a federal law banning concealed carried weapons except for law enforcement is needed.” “Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? Like the draconian proposals funded to the tune of $18,000,000 by the rabidly anti-gun Joyce Foundation while Obama was an activist member of its board of directors.
Obama’s alleged support of the Second Amendment is utterly cynical and false. Barack Obama is not for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms; he’s out to destroy it.
Dang, Max, I am wearing out the wheel on my mouse scrolling over your posts.
Nothing to throw into the Obama campaign…
* Obama attended a Madrassa
* Obama was ‘fer’ Rev. Wright before he was ‘agin’ him
* Obama bought his house and property from the biggest crook in Chicago and then takes campaign funds from him
* Obama calls terrorists friends that support blowing up police like the Weathermen
* Obama disses his grandmother on national TV as a typical poor white woman
* Obama interfered in a foreign country’s election to help get his cousin elected to office
* Obama helped raised funds for a known Palestinian terrorist organizations several times
* Obama will wear African garb, but won’t wear an American Flag pin
* Obama’s wife has never been proud of America until her husband decided to run for President
* Obama claims he has visited 57 states while campaigning
* Obama speaks of the 10,000 dead in Greensburg
* Obama claims he was a Professor at a Law school, when he was only a part time lecturer
* Obama takes a ‘present’ vote both in the Illnois and United States Senate so he can’t be tracked on controversial issues saving his own political neck
* Obama gets paranoid when President Bush speaks to Israeli overseas
* Obama is a confirmed cocaine and crack user
* Obama was a cigarette smoker while sort of supporting clean air standards with a ‘present’ vote.
* Obama already wants to give away 50 billion dollars away to foreign countries before he has taken office
* Obama quits his church, but really can’t remember if he was there when anything ‘bad’ happened (the I cannot recollect syndrome)
* Obama speaks Wohabi Arabic prayer in perfect diction just like a practicing Islamist would
* Obama is the most liberal Senator in the U.S. Senate
* Obama becomes indignant when people call him ‘articulate’
* Obama panders his white heritage to appeal to the masses and at the same time claims how he was in Selma Alabama during the Civil Rights era
* Obama steals speech phrases from Ronald Reagan
* Obama secretly supports Palestinian causes financially, then uses pandering lies to the Israelies telling them what good he will do as President
* Obama is a closet Muslim never having renounced his relgious faith
Sigh, what a joke the Republicans are……………
Chas,
I would like for you to answer some very simple basic questions about Christianity which you have been hiding from for some time now.
How about that?
What kind of an alleged minister would hide from such simple questions?
I know…
The one who knows that his answers would be very unchristian.
Well, the LIES begin!! And…. They’re OFF!!
Hey, Clark, did Nathan post something??? I dont think I saw anything, but I could be wrong…
Lie…it’s what Republicans do best (except when they are in public bathrooms).
Naw, Nathan’s too busy stroking his gun to post anything this AM!
CYNTHIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://mckinney2008.com/PRESIDENT/
Go green. Vote for REAL change.
One day you liberals might actually figure out how to ignore people.
You don’t do it by telling them everytime you are doing it.
You idiots can’t even get ignoring people right.
::hands chas the fly swatter::
;-)
“You idiots can’t even get ignoring people right.” -Nathan
No wonder the Marines have no use for him and prefer high school dropouts and excons.
Loser.
Hey Linda, I hope you had a good trip to beantown.
Did you catch a Celtic’s game? Eat lots of seafood?
Sigh. I really need a city fix…
Oh well. Gotta put 17 pounds of sirloin butts on the smoker today.
And next week? We start whackin’ chicken heads.
Sorry. I know that was TMI.
Thanks KFG! I needed that thing!!
Hey KFG if you need a city day, come on down!! I’m sure some of us can meet ya somewhere!!
Does Obama ever wear a Cross?
Or a Crucifix?
Gee, I wonder, does Max ever wear a cross or a crucifix??? Hmmmmm….
Russia blames U.S. for global financial crisis
By Michael Stott
ST PETERSBURG, Russia (Reuters) – Russian President Dmitry Medvedev blamed “aggressive” United States policies on Saturday for the global financial crisis and said Moscow’s growing economic muscle could be part of the solution.
http://tinyurl.com/5qs72x
Russia again flexing her muscle. bush has done such harm! Russia takes the opportunity to highlight the joke that is this administration.
McCain – FOUR MORE YEARS. bush’s third term.
Of course Max is often cross and carries the Republican crucifix named Sydney McBush.
And… and…. and…. is he wrapped in the Flag too??
Well, Obama had to be forced to wear a flag pin.
So, does he have to be forced to wear a cross?
And yes Chas, I do wear a cross. Do you?
It was a great trip, farmgrrl!
No Celtics games while we were there. We did catch a Red Sox game at Fenway! The city is dressed up for the championship games — banners of Celtics players at each street corner, abuzz with excitement.
The attitude of the people there, the acceptance… Ah, wonderful! Head of the Divinity Department at Harvard, lives on campus, preaches at Trinity Church – a black gay man! Well, so he states from his position of celibacy. I love the diversity! I love the intelligence!
Max,
I am sure Chas likes to look the part when he pretends to be a “Christian” minister.
“I love the diversity! I love the intelligence!”
That’s how I feel when I go to Austin too! I also love the creative energy.
And tolerance. Sweet, sweet tolerance.
MISTER YOU’RE A BETTER MAN THAN I
Can you judge a man
By the way he wears his hair
Can you read his mind
By the clothes that he wears
Or can you see
A bad man by the tack on his tie
Well then
REFRAIN (3 times)
Mister you’re a better man than I
Can you tell a wise man
By the way he speaks or spells
Is this more important
Than the stories that he tells
And call a man a fool
If for wealth he doesn’t strive
Well then
REFRAIN (3 times)
You can kill a man
If your faith he doesn’t hold
Say the color of his skin
Is the color of his soul
But can you say a man
For Queen and Country he must die
Well then
REFRAIN (4 times)
Another attack on Freedom: Roadblocks and Warrantless Searches
You will be questioned as to why you are driving on a certain street, as if you don’t have a right to drive on any public street in America.
Some say, “It can’t happen here”. Will your neighborhood be next?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/04/AR2008060402205_pf.html
D.C. Police to Check Drivers In Violence-Plagued Trinidad
By Allison Klein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, June 5, 2008; A01
D.C. Police Chief Cathy L. Lanier announced a military-style checkpoint yesterday to stop cars this weekend in a Northeast Washington neighborhood inundated by gun violence, saying it will help keep criminals out of the area.
Starting on Saturday, officers will check drivers’ identification and ask whether they have a “legitimate purpose” to be in the Trinidad area, such as going to a doctor or church or visiting friends or relatives. If not, the drivers will be turned away.
Thanks Chas, but it’s going to be a while before I can get away from here. This is high farming season!
Right now, EVERYTHING here needs fed, watered, mowed, controlled, or nurtured in some way.
Including ME!
More Government Attacks on Freedom:
http://www.gunowners.org/a060608.htm
Rep. Bill Sali To Government Agency:
“Always Think Freedom”
Friday, June 6, 2008
Representative Bill Sali is introducing a bill to send a message to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) that freedom still means something in this country.
As part of its Asset Forfeiture training program for agents, the BATFE ordered 2,000 Leatherman tools inscribed with the words “Always Think Forfeiture.” The program urges agents to focus on seizing private property.
Rep Sali believes the agency should be thinking ‘Freedom,’ not ‘Forfeiture.’ The Idaho Republican complained about the program and recieved a letter from Acting ATF Director Michael Sullivan, who apologized for the “confusion” over the issue.
While Rep. Sali appreciated the apology, he said that, “My constituents deserve to know the truth about this marketing program, which has been interpreted by many Idahoans as anti-gun and anti-private property.”
The agency halted distribution of the tools in the face of public outcry, but “[t]he fact remains that the ATF thought it was OK to think ‘Always Think Forfeiture’ instead of focusing on protecting our constitutional rights,” Sali said.
Well, yea, thats true… Figured maybe you would have time to sneak away just before wheat harvest starts!! Well, you be safe out there… and stay away from Dorothy’s Farm!! I hear they have twisters there!! LOL
4000 + US men and women dead in a bogus war that Obama tried to prevent and Max worries about a flag/cross pin.
Good set of priorities Max. Signed up to serve yet loser?
Why would it matter KansasNative?
Serving is not enough for you.
Next you will wonder why he is not jumping on Grenades.
You liberals shift the goal posts so many times in a discussion you can’t even see how absurd you are anymore.
And then when Max does serve, you will pester him about killing civilians.
You are a first class retard KansasNative.
“Starting on Saturday, officers will check drivers’ identification and ask whether they have a “legitimate purpose” to be in the Trinidad area, such as going to a doctor or church or visiting friends or relatives. If not, the drivers will be turned away.” [posted by Max]
Max… remember some time ago, I said that we could get to a point where you would have to show ID to go from one state to another?? And show papers, etc.??
And do you remember you and your goons called me crazy for saying such a thing??
Are YOU now crazy as well?? Just wondered…
Chas,
So now you admit that YOU said it and not “some people?”
LOL
What an idiot you are Chas.
It was not the checkpoints we were calling you stupid over either.
It was the shadow governmnet comment.
It is real.
It is real.
It is real.
It is real.
It is real.
It is real.
It is real.
It is real.
It is real.
It is real.
It is real.
Nathan, you are a first class Bozo!! And that is putting it in nice words… I posted the case scenario… And my words were that SOME PEOPLE are saying this… I want to know if Max is now crazy too!! The DC police are saying this, and not Max…
Hey, you goons cant have it both ways!!
Just like with Obama… FIRST you all say he is a Muslim… THEN you bitch because he doesnt wear a cross pin…
Now, really, why would a Muslim man (which some of you all claim he is) wear a cross pin??? Hmmmm????
Bozos!!
The shadow government.
It is real.
It is real.
It is real.
It is real.
It is real.
It is real.
It is real.
It is real.
It is real.
It is real.
It is real.
It is real.
BTW, the Bildeberger Group is meeting in Chantilly, VA, just outside D.C. this weekend… This group is sometimes referred to as the Illuminati…
She is truly gracious…
I hope everyone is listening. This is truly a great woman who has in the past and will in the future do great and noble things that have great import on all Americans!
Nathan, do you have spaz attacks often??
Chas, you are a Christian.
Nathan, you are a Christian.
End of debate – move on.
Chas,
Where are these state border check points you were talking about?
Your comments were not about the idiots in Washington DC abusing their power like they have been doing for some time in regards to gun control.
This doesn’t even come close to vindicating your stupidity.
Where is this shadow government?
Where are these state border check points?
When you can start giving us evidence for those you might have a case.
Till then? You are still the same unChristian minister who swears and acts like a retarded 12 year old with Tourette syndrome on this blog.
Thanks Clark… please notice, I said nothing on that matter…
WS Clark,
Why is Chas a Christian?
Simply because he says so?
Just dial 911. Oh, and the Police need YOUR help to catch the criminals.
http://www.wxyz.com/news/story.aspx?content_id=e9b8200b-45a6-4ed8-bdce-cb6e00898127
Police Search For Mob Of Attackers
Last Update: 6/06 12:03 am
Police need your help to find a group of people they say is responsible for a number of recent attacks in Macomb County.
http://www.macombdaily.com/stories/060308/loc_local02.shtml
PUBLISHED: Tuesday, June 3, 2008
Violence shocks community
Mob of young men hurled stones at cars during brutal spree
By Gordon Wilczynski and Norb Franz
Macomb Daily Staff Writers
While Macomb County sheriff’s detectives tried Monday to find 20 to 30 men who brutally attacked one man, robbed four others and threw bricks and rocks at several cars in Mount Clemens, local business officials and the city’s mayor were shocked and outraged at the weekend violence.Macomb County Sheriff Mark Hackel said deputies interviewed several people and will review security videotapes from local stores in an effort to identify the culprits involved in the incidents late Saturday. He said police hope the public has information about the attacks and vandalism and will provide tips to police.
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Groups of roving young adults and teenagers who apparently gathered at a carnival at the Gibraltar Trade Center, walked onto North River Road and threw bricks and rocks at passing cars. The driver of one of the vehicles was a woman whose vehicle was pelted with rocks as she drove to pick up her children from the carnival.
Moments later, they walked in the middle of North River Road and threw a brick through the side of a window of a passing car at 11:55 p.m. Saturday near Clinton Place townhouses. The 29-year-old motorist’s husband then got out of the car, Hackel said, with arms raised as if to say, “What is going on?”
Several men punched and kicked the victim, knocking him unconscious. The man suffered a skull fracture and remained hospitalized Monday in serious condition at Mount Clemens Regional Medical Center.
“It’s beyond my imagination that any human being would do this to another human being,” Hackel said.
In a 911 cellular phone call released to the media Monday, the beaten man’s frantic wife is heard screaming repeatedly as a dispatcher unsuccessfully tries to get information from her.
Chas I never said a cross pin.
I said a cross.
You were wrong.
Nathan, NOWHERE did I say those checkpoints are a present reality… And you cant find where I did, so dont waste your time looking… I said that there are some who say that there is a shadow government, that will, among other things, establish check points at State border crossings…
They will require showing the soon to be in force, your National ID Card — Said card will contain your personal information on an RFID chip on the Card…
Now — THAT is what I said…
Seems to me if the Police in D. C. can do it NOW… and Max is all perturbed over it, why would he call me crazy for posting what I posted some time back?? Hmmmm????
Chas,
Why doesn’t your stroke effect your posts consistently?
Nathan,
:: is consistent when you PISS HIM OFF!
Chas,
There are “some people” who say we never landed on the moon too!
Doesn’t mean I actually believe that stupidity and post it on this blog as if I did.
Do you believe that there is a shadow government who wants to establish state border check points?
So Chas, are the Police Checkpoints and searches without warrants a good thing?
Should you have to tell the police where you are going and why when there is no probable cause to indicate you have committed a crime?
……how old is the Earth marine-boy?
……………do you need to call your daddy first?
Hey, I never said I believed it… Why are you sooo friggin DENSE?? You are supposed to be a highly trained military professional!! I hope to hell you arent that Dense when you are in uniform, or we all in trouble!!
And don’t you expect the Government to establish Road Blocks and Check Points, and Search Every Home when guns are banned?
Without warrants? Where’s the probable cause?
Or doesn’t the Constitution mean anything?
Oh, it’s a living document.
RIGHT.
Chas,
Yes, I noticed you didn’t say anything on the matter.
That is the problem.
A real Christian minister wouldn’t hide from such simple questions like you do.
That is why you are no Christian and a questionable minister at best.
Oh yeah Chas,
I still have not heard one thing from anyone either Chas, in regards to your contacting whoever you contacted.
Say Nathan,
If attacked by a mob throwing rocks at your car, if they block your car and trap you from driving away, would you choose a baseball bat or a knife for self-defense?
(After calling 911, of course.)
Chas lied about reporting Nathan to the Chaplain police.
Chas,
If you don’t believe it, then what was the point in posting it?
If you don’t believe it, then why are you trying to use what Max posted to defend posting it as if it is coming true?
Max, WHY are you asking me?? YOU are the one that posted it…
The more important question here is the power of Law Enforcement to secure a neighborhood, where, apparently, there has been an extremely high amount of criminal activity….
Now, we expect the Police to “Protect and to Serve” — Could that involve extra tight security in a given neighborhood??
Go to a Campaign Rally… maybe you have been to one… If not, be prepared to empty out ALL of your pockets… wand searched in some cases, and be searched by ARMED Secret Sevice agents…
Do you question that??
WOW!
She is exceptional. Moved me to tears. That couldn’t have been easy and yet she handled it soooo well, with such grace.
Max,
With Chas you have to be very word specific.
He said he used a bayonet, not a knife.
I am still curious to see this bayonet self defense tactic where it is not considered deadly force….
LOL
Nathan, use your brain for a change… stop flaming, and think… I know it might be a new experience….
I dont know if it will ever happen…
BUT — Do YOU know that it wont??
NO acceptable limits
and
NO acceptable prejudices.
You can choose not to attend a campaign event, or courthouses or other places where you are searched. You know that in advance.
What you can’t expect, is to be searched ANYWHERE, at ANY TIME, without Probable Cause OR a Search Warrant.
Chas is all for a Police State.
Nathan, if you cant figure that out, then you dont BELONG in the Marine Corps!!
Chas,
And if you can’t answer a simple question about being a Christian, you are not one.
Nathan, does your testosterone somehow SURGE when you put down people who have no desire to own a gun??? Is that your problem?? Or are you just plain STUPID??
Max,
No, get it right now…
Chas says “some people” are for a police state. He doesn’t believe that he just likes to post random factless information on the blog.
“Simply because he says so?”
Sounds good to me – why would anyone lie about being a Christian?
Say, if the police are asking for Citizens’ help in finding criminals, should you carry a baseball bat or a bayonet with you, or just go do police work without being armed in any way?
(Carry a cell phone to dial 911, of course.)
And how hard can you swing that Bat without using lethal force?
And the bayonet, how can I use that in a non-lethal way? Do I just not cut very deep? 1/4 inch? 1/8 inch? 1/16 inch?
……….who sets the definition of who/what is a “christian”?
McBush is butt toast. The Dems will unite….hear that?….the sound of a landslide burying the Maxs, Nathan, Prices, McCluers….
If I carry concealed (legally of course) and I use non-copkiller bullets, will these bullets still harm civilians?
Chas,
It was you putting down me and others for not only having a gun for self defense, but using deadly force.
I am pointing out the stupidity of someone like you who is prepared to use a baynoet while you are mocking others for having a gun.
You are a first class idiot who has no clue about self defense or what deadly force is.
Nathaniel
Posted June 7, 2008 at 12:23 pm | Permalink
Max,
No, get it right now…
Chas says “some people” are for a police state. He doesn’t believe that he just likes to post random factless information on the blog.
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Oh, I was referring to his post below, where he doesn’t write very clearly, but he implies he is for a police state – if he supports the Washington DC type of Roadblock Searches and Interrogations.
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Chas
Posted June 7, 2008 at 12:16 pm | Permalink
Max, WHY are you asking me?? YOU are the one that posted it…
The more important question here is the power of Law Enforcement to secure a neighborhood, where, apparently, there has been an extremely high amount of criminal activity….
Now, we expect the Police to “Protect and to Serve” — Could that involve extra tight security in a given neighborhood??
Go to a Campaign Rally… maybe you have been to one… If not, be prepared to empty out ALL of your pockets… wand searched in some cases, and be searched by ARMED Secret Sevice agents…
Do you question that??
Oh, her speech just brought tears to my eyes! :(
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/07/clinton-set-to-end-historic-bid-for-the-white-house/
THE BTICH QUITS!
Hillary Clinton publicly and enthusiastically endorsed Barack Obama for president Saturday in Washington D.C., as she suspended her historic bid for the White House following a grueling 17-month campaign.
“What you can’t expect, is to be searched ANYWHERE, at ANY TIME, without Probable Cause OR a Search Warrant.”
Max, according to what you posted earlier, the Probable Cause is clearly stated… If you have posted it on the Blog of a fairly small midwestern newspaper…. You can pretty much bet that the Trinidad sector of D.C. has been duly informed of this procedure that they are starting today… I fail to see what your problem is with this procedure under the STATED circumstances….
As to ANYWHERE, ANYTIME… NO…. But, then again, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME is not what you posted…
Want to try again??
WS Clark,
Simply calling yourself a Christian doesn’t make you one.
There are many groups that believe in the idea of Religious Pluralism. Chas is one of those people.
That is not Christian. Chas would like to think he is one for whatever reason I don’t know.
The things Chas says and the things he believes are not Christian.
I can’t change that.
For the same reasons that I am not Jewish, Muslim, or a Wiccan are the same reasons that Chas is no Christian.
I guess I can’t wear my T-Shirt now…
LIFE IS A %$#%$, WHY VOTE FOR ONE?
Simply being in a residential neighborhood is NOT probable cause.
Try again Chas.
“Simply calling yourself a Christian doesn’t make you one.”
Why would Chas LIE about being a Christian?
To keep his job.
MAX — WAKE UP IDIOT!!! YOU posted it… not me… Dont you even attack me over what YOU POSTED!!! What kind of a lunatic are you?? Worse even than I thought!!
MAX — YOU said that the Police stated they were implementing their procedure… Get ready for it —- BECAUSE OF HIGH CRIMINAL ACTIVITY in that sector!!!
Surely you know about the “Green Zone” in Baghdad??? Same principle, from what YOU POSTED!!!
Max — YOU come wearing a cross, and wrapping yourself in the Flag… either literally or figuratively….
According to Sinclair Lewis… YOU are a Facist!! From now on, you shall be known as The Facist, Max…. Fits you quite well…
Chas, you are comparing military action in a WAR with police action in the United States.
You could just as well argue that HIGH CRIMINIAL ACTIVITY in certain areas of Wichita provide Probable Cause for Roadblocks and Warrantless searches – but you would STILL be WRONG.
Clark, please notice — I am ignoring Nathan’s LIES
Name calling again Chas, that’s not very pastorlike now.
Are you 12?
Chas,
Please note: When you have to say you are ignoring someone… you are not really ignoring them.
Idiot.
Chas,
Did the stroke make you type the word “YOU” in all caps above, or was that your choice?
MAX your argument is with the D.C. Police… I didnt post it… YOU are the one flaming about their actions… If it bothers you so much, why dont you call the D. C. Police Department, and bitch at them??
Maybe THEY can get it thru your thick skull what they are doing….
BTW, did you know that the KS Highway Patrol did that very thing last May out in Greensburg for a couple of days???
Nathaniel
Posted June 7, 2008 at 12:42 pm | Permalink
Chas,
Please note: When you have to say you are ignoring someone… you are not really ignoring them.
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So, he’s lying about ignoring you!
WS Clark,
I think Chas really thinks he is a Christian. I don’t think he set out to lie about it.
The truth is that the things he believes and the things he says are NOT Christian.
I have a friend who is a Unitarian. He doesn’t believe Christ is anything more than a man who was pretty smart and had good things to say.
He calls himself a Christian too.
It could be about fitting in. There are many who seek to be part of the “in crowd” of Christians with their faith even though they are not.
There is a certain level of “main stream” acceptance from being a Christian that you don’t get if you were not.
The point is still that the things Chas says and the things he believes are not Christian.
Simply calling yourself one doesn’t make you one.
Just in the past two weeks, Local, County, and State Police HERE in Wichita… set up numerous roadblocks…. and wrote over 300 tickets… NO search warrants… NO probable cause (by your standard) — Were they right?? Were they wrong??
Chas
Posted June 7, 2008 at 12:45 pm | Permalink
MAX your argument is with the D.C. Police… I didnt post it… YOU are the one flaming about their actions… If it bothers you so much, why dont you call the D. C. Police Department, and bitch at them??
Maybe THEY can get it thru your thick skull what they are doing….
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Oh Chas, so you agree with the police in DC making Roadblocks and Conducting Warrantless Searches and Interrogations?
http://projects.kansas.com/crime/
My God! The police should form a blockade over much of Wichita and conduct Warrantless Searches and Interrogations of EVERYBODY driving in certain neighborhoods!
Where did I say that, Max??? WHERE??? Huh??? Huh??? Huh??? WHERE IS IT MAX???
You lying piece of Facist Crap!!
Chas,
You never say anything. You never answer any questions. You are never wrong.
Just go away, you are a waste of bandwidth.
Max, under the circumstances that YOU POSTED… Yes…. It is a specific issue…. It is NOT city wide… The Trinidad sector has distinct boundaries….
YES they have a right to maintain control!!
If they werent doing that, and more people were killed, then you would be bitching because they arent doing their JOB!!
Time to go back to your padded room now, Max…
MAX — you are arguing with ME, over what YOU, YOURSELF Posted re: D. C. Police Policy..
Tell me, does that make sense to you??
Chas,
You claim to be a Christian, yet refuse to answer the most basic question in regards to being one.
Does that make sense to you???
PS Was it your stroke making you type in caps or not?
Nathan, you just cant stand it… which is good for you… Just forget it!! You arent going to get anywhere…. You lost already!!
Chas
Posted June 7, 2008 at 12:56 pm | Permalink
YES they have a right to maintain control!!
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And ‘preacher’ man calls ME a “Facist” (sic)!
(Course he can’t even spell it)
heeeeeeeeee heeeeeeeee heeeeeeeeee
By God, Chas would have police in jack-boots goose-stepping down neighborhood streets to MAINTAIN CONTROL of the POLICE STATE.
If anyone is a Fascist, it is CHAS.
Fascism is a government, faction, movement, or political philosophy that raises nationalism, and frequently race (Chas Supports Obama), above the individual (Chas opposed Individual Freedom in exchange for Socialist Redistribution of Property) and is characterized by a centralized autocratic state (Chas supports a big controlling Government Police State) governed by a dictatorial head, stringent organization of the economy (Chas supports Government Control of the Economy and Industry and the Redistribution of Wealth as opposed to Max’s view of a Free Market Economy and less Government Control) and society, and aggressive repression of opposition.[1] In addition to placing the interests of the individual as subordinate to that of the nation or race, fascism seeks to achieve a national rebirth (Chas supports this rebirth thru Government controll) by promoting cults of unity, energy and purity.
Max, are you in charge of writing Police Policy Manuals now?? They arent looking for YOU!! They ARE trying to protect a very violent neighborhood… Why do you NOT want a violent neighborhood to be protected??
You got an answer for that??
YOU POSTED YOURSELF what the specific circumstances are in the D. C. situation… Why dont you go back and read what YOU POSTED???
Max, it appears that D.C. has declared ONE SPECIIC SECTOR of the city, to be under Martial Law…. Sorry Max, but the City has that RIGHT… by LAW!!
Now, I know you HATE obeying laws established by the proper goernment… Some day that kind of attitude will get YOU arrested…
Max, you have had FAR too much kool aid for today… Tell your nurses to put it back in the Fridge, now, and go take your pills like a good boy… You are flaming so much, you might be a threat to yourself, and/or others…
What’s really odd, “MaxGrobnik” –
…is how all these “police state” tactics are being conducted under the policies of George WMD Bush.
Warrantless wiretaps, random cop stops, rescinding the constitutional right to habeas corpus. Licensing and background checks (and your fingerprints in the system) to carry a concealed weapon. That’s not a Democratic Party record; it’s all due to George WMD Bush shredding the Bill of Rights and you nincompoop Cons sucking up to him.
Martial Law declared in the Capital of the USA?
Come on Chas. You are really nuckin futs now!
I learned many years ago, that no reason can be had when dealing with those who are clearly irrational…
Bye Max!! Have a nice temper tantrum!!
Chas,
Do you support The Patriot Act too?
You see me defending Bush Monkey?
Christ, every problem in America is Bush’s fault!
Chas
Posted June 7, 2008 at 1:07 pm | Permalink
Max, it appears that D.C. has declared ONE SPECIIC SECTOR of the city, to be under Martial Law…. Sorry Max, but the City has that RIGHT… by LAW!!
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Another LIE by Chas!
MAX — Slow down… YOU posted this upthread… YOU POSTED THIS… Not me!!
“Martial Law declared in the Capital of the USA?”
That is exactly the situation you posted about the D. C. Police action upthread…
Why are you flaming ME over what YOU posted?? Now, I suppose you will try to tell us that D. C. has NO right to declare Martial Law, to keep the peace??
If so, you would be VERY WRONG!!
I wonder how Washington DC can have so much crime with a Gun Ban in place?
Chas
Posted June 7, 2008 at 1:15 pm | Permalink
MAX — Slow down… YOU posted this upthread… YOU POSTED THIS… Not me!!
“Martial Law declared in the Capital of the USA?”
That is exactly the situation you posted about the D. C. Police action upthread…
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Losing count – ANOTHER LIE by Chas!
I never posted that martial law was declared in DC. YOU did Chas!
Dumba*s
I have never seen a Pastor LIE so much!
Chas, may God have mercy on your soul.
May the spirit of the Lord fill your empty vessel and your cup runneth over!
MaxGrobnik
Posted June 7, 2008 at 11:37 am | Permalink
Another attack on Freedom: Roadblocks and Warrantless Searches
You will be questioned as to why you are driving on a certain street, as if you don’t have a right to drive on any public street in America.
Some say, “It can’t happen here”. Will your neighborhood be next?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/04/AR2008060402205_pf.html
D.C. Police to Check Drivers In Violence-Plagued Trinidad
By Allison Klein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, June 5, 2008; A01
D.C. Police Chief Cathy L. Lanier announced a military-style checkpoint yesterday to stop cars this weekend in a Northeast Washington neighborhood inundated by gun violence, saying it will help keep criminals out of the area.
Starting on Saturday, officers will check drivers’ identification and ask whether they have a “legitimate purpose” to be in the Trinidad area, such as going to a doctor or church or visiting friends or relatives. If not, the drivers will be turned away.
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This policy, Max, as any 10 yr old kid can clearly read, is for a specific sector of D. C. called Trinidad…. an area the Chief of Police says is inundated by gun violence…
Are you claiming that the LAW does not permit the D. C. police to take such an action?? If so, you are just plain WRONG!!
Chas, YOU said the action was taken under Martial Law.
I never said that. And you LIED about that.
Please seek the peace of the Lord and ask for the strength to be an honest man.
Lying is a big sin, you know that Chas. Stop it.
Max, your friggin original post on the issue is very clearly implementation of martial law… Thus, YOU posted it yourself!!
So, just stop calling ME the liar!! You, Max, are WAY out of control here!! Go have a beer, or a shot of Old Crow… And as for a soul??? You seem to be lacking one, if you cant understand the situation that the Trinidad neighborhood is in!! Geez!!
It just dawned on me… Its all about your friggin GUNS!!!
And again Chas, you take the Fascist view to allow Police to establish roadblocks and conduct WARRANTLESS searches and interrogations.
Your Fascism will cause you to sin. Stop it.
Max, you want our troops in Iraq to have support… But you are opposed to giving support to the LOCAL Troops… Police… trying to keep the Peace HERE at home!!
What a filthy hypocrite you are!!
Oh, so now YOU Chas, call it Martial Law again!
Damn you lie again!
And no, it’s not about guns. It’s about FREEDOM.
You know, FREEDOM for Individuals. That’s something you Fascists oppose.
Chas you want COMBAT Patrols in the USA! You Fascist!
Comparing Iraq to Washington DC!
You frickin idiot, Iraq is in a state of War!
Chas
Posted June 7, 2008 at 1:23 pm | Permalink
This policy, Max, as any 10 yr old kid can clearly read
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Chas, are you a 10-yr old kid?
LOL
Max I didnt call it Martial Law… The D. C. Chief of Police called it that… Its in YOUR POST you basket case!! And if supporting the Police Dept. is Facist… Well, hell, you damn right I support the Police… They are acting within the LAW…
When you can show that they arent, then I will change my position….
Max, I dont know what rock you been living under, but a SWAT team is about as close as you gonna get to a Combat Patrol… And D.C. has lots of them… So does the Wichita P. D. And if you are in Iowa, So does the Iowa H. P. I saw them out in full force at the John Kerry rally 4 years ago… Pretty intimidating looking bunch, too!!
And, in REAL news –
After a long, grueling primary season, Senator Hillary Clinton called for party unity and vowed to support Senator Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic Presidential nominee. In an inspirational speech to supporters in Washington D.C., Clinton called on her supporters to rally behind Obama:
” The way to continue our fight now, to accomplish the goals for which we stand is to take our energy, our passion, our strength, and do all we can to help elect Barack Obama the next President of the United States. [applause] Today, as I suspend my campaign, I congratulate him on the victory he has won and the extraordinary race he has run. I endorse him and throw my full support behind him. And I ask all of you to join me in working as hard for Barack Obama as you have for me.
“I have served in the Senate with him for four years, I have been in this campaign with him for sixteen months. I have stood on the stage and gone toe-to-toe with him in twenty-two debates. I’ve had a front row seat to his candidacy and I have seen his strength and determination, his grace and his grit. In his own life, Barack Obama has lived the American Dream. As a community organizer and State Senate and as a United States Senator, he has dedicated himself to insuring the dream is realized and in this campaign, he has inspired so many to become involved in the democratic process, and invested in our common future. Now when I started this race, I intended to win back the White House and make sure we have a President who puts our country back on the path to peace, prosperity and progress. And that’s exactly what we’re going to do by insuring that Barack Obama walks through the doors of the Oval Office on January 20, 2009.”
This was the speech she needed to give. Senator Clinton showed class, courage, determination, and a unshakable commitment to the causes she and the Democratic party believe in. Yes, there were bumps in the road over the last 16 months, but she never gave up and is to be commended for sticking to her guns.
The speech is up on YouTube and MSNBC will rerun it in its entirety at 3 pm.
Max…I’m all for freedom for us libs. It’s you Republicans that I’d like to see locked up.
Peace, prosperity, progress
vs
don’t know anything about the economy, 1000 year war, and I like blonde bimbos with big booobs.
and beer!
Chas
Posted June 7, 2008 at 12:47 pm | Permalink
Just in the past two weeks, Local, County, and State Police HERE in Wichita… set up numerous roadblocks…. and wrote over 300 tickets… NO search warrants… NO probable cause (by your standard) — Were they right?? Were they wrong??
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So, Brother Chas
Are you back in Wichita now?
I mean you capitalized “HERE” when you referred to Wichita.
Thought I saw you in that unmarked moving van moving into that garage apartment on 13th street.
Wife not letting you back into the house?
LOL kol aid must be too strong today
That had to be a hard speech to make…It was even harder to hear her have to make it.
The coverage by the networks leading up to this moment was, as it has been, dreadful. It had elements of both a funeral and a celebration.
Senator Hillary Clinton is one iron lady and one hell of a fighter.
She has taken a BIG one for the party by not aggressively pursuing the nomination to the convention floor. The way things WOULD have been done in earlier times. She has done the shrewd thing both for her party and her supporters.
In the movie “Recount”, there is a moment after the Supreme Court has taken the election from Al Gore and given it to george bush. One of Gore’s supporters begs him to continue to fight on for fairness in Florida. Gore tells him sadly, “I can’t win. Even if I win, I can’t win.”
This was the place Senator Clinton had arrived at since Tuesday.
She retains her delegates. That is an insurance policy the Democratic party has in case of any sudden summer surprises. The GOP has no such hold out. Any further initiative toward the nomination would come from someone other than Hillary Clinton herself on the convention floor in August.
The full power of the GOP attack machine will now focus on Obama. IF he is destroyed or damaged, the party and the Presidency will not fall with him.
She has rallied the party and thrown her support fully behind the presumptive candidate. She has said effectively, “I’m for the party first.” But she has left the party the option to call on her if she is needed.
If Obama, with her support, vets out as the nominee, it will be a white woman who throws an African American man the most delegates and the delegates that will acclaim him on a stage in Denver in August. We are just beginning to live history here today. We shouldn’t lose sight of the importance of these moments in redressing a LOT of older history.
Hillary Clinton’s future is bright. The next President will have a very hard time. Hillary will be the Democratic go to if needed in 2012. In 2016, she will still be younger than John McCain is now.
And I don’t think the fight in this lady will fade one bit with age.
Taking nothing away from her husband, I think I say safely that when history remembers the name Clinton, it will first reflect on Hillary.
I am truly proud to have stood for her here.
“BlueJay” –
You continue to surprise me.
Nicely put, your latest post.
Shows me something about you I thought maybe you’d lost track of.
Yeah, Senator Clinton is a strong person. And she’ll be a strong asset for the progressive cause for the rest of her life.
Hillary was class personified today. And you caught her message and we’re gonna win in November.
Pretty classy your own self.
An interesting article:
Lost Scuba Divers Survive Deadly Dragon, Currents on Remote Island
Saturday, June 07, 2008
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,364222,00.html
June 7: Rescued European divers arrive at Labuhan Bajo port, Flores island, Indonesia.
All five Europeans who vanished while scuba diving in treacherous waters off eastern Indonesia were found alive Saturday on a remote island, police and family members said.
The divers — three from Britain and one each from France and Sweden — were rescued after battling a komodo dragon during the 36 hours they were stranded on a remote island reserve for the deadly reptiles, AFP reports. They became stranded after getting caught in strong currents.
All five were found following a massive sea search in the area where they were last seen Thursday plunging into the water from their wooden boat, said Lt. Col. Buce Helo, a local police chief.
He said the five had drifted more than 12 hours before arriving at Rinca island about 20 miles away from their dive site. They spent one night there before being found by rescuers just before noon on Saturday.
One of the divers Laurent Pinel, 31, told AFP the group had to fight off a dragon with rocks after it came up to the group, and scavenged for shellfish as they waited to be rescued from the tiny island in the Komodo National Park, east of Bali.
The divers did not know the island was a reserve for the aggressive large lizards that can easily kill a human.
The largest lizard in the world, komodo dragons usually feast in packs and can easily devour prey as large as a buffalo, AFP reported. Komodos have bacteria in their saliva that can make their bite extremely dangerous.
Once found, rescuers took the scuba divers by motorboat to Labuhan Bajo, a city on the western tip of nearby Flores island, said Pariman, chief of the local port authority.
The five were rushed to a local hospital.
Pariman, who goes by only one name, described their condition as weak but healthy.
“They are alive and are now on their way to get medical assistance,” Ernest Leandowski, the husband of one of the British divers, Kathleen Mitchinson, told the British news agency Press Association. “That is all I can say at this stage, as I have not yet spoken to my wife.”
The diving trip took place off of Tatawa island, an area famous for its rich marine diversity but also for its treacherous and unpredictable seas.
Recommended only for experienced divers, it is in a place where the Indian and Pacific Oceans meet, creating currents that converge and separate. Whirlpools and eddies can pull divers downwards.
“They have been floating out there for two days,” Dave Allin, the relieved father of Charlotte Allin, also of Britain, told Press Association. “We are still waiting for news of how they are.”
The three other divers were identified as James Manning of Britain, Elena Neralairen of Sweden, and Lauren Pinel of France.
Rinca island is about 20 miles south of Tatawa.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Well written BlueJay – and well said Hillary Clinton. She is no only putting “Party first” but she is putting America first. Nobody knows better than Hillary Clinton what a disaster a McCain presidency would be for our country.
A united Democratic Party cannot be defeated in November. BlueJay, I ask you to stand with me behind our nominee. And, should the unthinkable happen between now and convention I stand prepared to stand with you.
DON’T VOTE FOR JESUS
His platform?
“Give to him who begs from you and do not refuse him who would borrow from you.”
“Render therefore unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s.”
“Judge not that ye be not judged.”
“Do not resist one who is evil. But if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other.”
Jesus: Wrong on social services. Wrong on crime. Wrong on defense. Wrong for America!
I’m Monkeyhawk and I approved this message.
Senator Clinton’s speech today was one for the ages. It hovered at the point where the political shades into the spiritual. Breathtaking.
What an incredible year to get to participate in the Democratic Party’s mission of extending Constitutional, democratic self-government to every American, and to all of humanity.
Oh, and precisely what bth said: BlueJay, in the event of the unthinkable, you may be assured that I will stand with you.
“CF2K” notes –
Senator Clinton’s speech today was one for the ages. It hovered at the point where the political shades into the spiritual. Breathtaking.
It was, wasn’t it?
It’s one of the ironic things about American politics that she finally found her true voice in defeat.
If she had spoken with such honesty, such passion, such zeal six months ago, today’s speech would have had to be delivered by someone else. (Probably John Edwards, but I digress…)
I know she thinks she’s the best qualified person to be President of the United States — and she may well be — but she’s realized that this year, at this time, with these issues facing the American people, she’s probably not the best canidate for the 2008 general election.
And — and this is one of those reasons I really love her — she recognizes what’s at stake in November. She recognizes she has become a major center-of-power when it comes to developing future public policy.
I liked how she said, “This isn’t the party I’d hoped for, but I love the company” when she addressed her audience today.
I keep coming back to one of those early Democratic candidates’ debates five or six months ago. I was willing to follow any of ‘em (Gravel, not so much). And we came down to two exceptional people and the choice was tough for a lot of us Democrats.
At the risk of being accused of dancing in the end zone before the game is over, I feel really good about this presidential election.
And Senator Clinton’s primary campaign is (almost) half of what makes me optimistic.
It’s time now for Dems to heal wounds, join together, and kick the snot out of every Republican running for office.
The Presidency, the House, the Senate, and the Supreme Court can be ours.
United, we can win it all.
“KansasNative” reminds us –
“United, we can win it all.”
YES WE CAN!
It wasn’t easy for me to write that. I’m glad it is appreciated. I knew I would be expected to say…something. And like Hillary, I’m not one for ducking the difficult. It is not my best. Today is a hard day. I never had any thought to come here and call for a Democratic party civil war, Hillary to run as independent, Obama to be primaried if he ran again for the Senate, or other such things as I have seen threatened here before. Senator Clinton has taken a “loss” that was not a loss and done the best that she could with it. I am satisfied with her decision. It is a master stroke of political acumen. Still?
It is a very hard day.
And that is coming from one late and initially grudging supporter of Senator Clinton.
I regret I did not stand for her better and sooner, even if she asks me not to waste the effort on second guesses or guilt.
Think of the hundreds of thousands of her whole hearted supporters who took this ride from the beginning. It is one thing for Senator Clinton to do the politically astute thing and ask them to vote for Obama. It is another for them to swallow this bitter pill and simply “move on”.
In my capacity to speak for Clinton supporters? It will take time. We will also watch carefully as to how Senator Clinton is treated going forward. There is a great deal of hurt in this camp for how she has been treated recently. Vast elements of the media, SOME Obama supporters, and even her own friends, have spared little as to her feelings and sense of how she wanted to best act for the 18 million people who voted for her.
Those 18 million people? Obama cannot win without a good chunk of them. Senator Clinton SHOULD be asked if she wishes to be Vice President. She will not demand it. But it should be offered. She may decline it. Likely she will unless it would give her a chance to do the Jedi version of Darth Cheney. (A thought which makes me giddy.) But her speech today should be remembered by Barack Obama and the Democratic party for the near and not so near future. A seat on the Supreme Court, leadership of the Senate, and future nominations for President should all be considered.
Some wounds will never heal. I once respected Keith Olberman. He in particular has been positively cruel to Senator Clinton.
I should think apologies from some in the Democratic party are in order. This speech could not have happened if Hillary had thrown in the towel Tuesday. And for her to make THIS speech Tuesday night would have been inappropriate on a night she ended in a near photo finish with Barack Obama. It would have galvanized her supporters against Obama permanently. And, she would have to have written it BEFORE she needed to make it.
Clearly, this woman is a politician superior even to her husband.
Going forward, I will continue to monitor the rights exploration of Senator Obama. I will not join in petty assaults on Obama. But if there is information that I feel threatens his chances to be elected in the fall, I will not apologize for bringing it here. He is after all, only the presumptive nominee. Senator Clinton has acknowledged that Senator Obama is the party’s choice of who they best think can win in the fall. But if there are misgivings or summer surprises, she has left the party a fire exit. I’ll be very fair in anything I bring here that suggests they use it.
I want all of the Obama supporters to know. During these recent months, I have been in contact with Steven (neutral) and linda(former Clinton supporter who switched to Obama). I have asked them often if they feel I have operated fairly and honorably here. I’ve had no complaints. I now offer the challenge in the open to MOST Obama supporters. I will TRY very hard to continue to be honorable and honest in whatever I bring here. I will not damage Obama’s nomination unless what I bring here SERIOUSLY affects his ability to win in the fall. Kick me in the ass if I seem to need it. But remember that the messenger is not responsible for the message being unpleasant. I trust you would rather have something come from me, here, than from out of the blue in the fall.
In other words, I won’t shut up and sing. Not yet. I hope it is what you have come to expect and continue to expect from me.
This, among other things, was on my mind.
Jay
Hmmmmm…..
Barack Obama isn’t really one of us. Not in the normal way, anyway.
This is what I find myself offering up more and more in response to the whiners and the frowners and to those with broken or sadly dysfunctional karmic antennae – or no antennae at all – to all those who just don’t understand and maybe even actively recoil against all this chatter about Obama’s aura and feel and MLK/JFK-like vibe.
To them I say, all right, you want to know what it is? The appeal, the pull, the ethereal and magical thing that seems to enthrall millions of people from all over the world, that keeps opening up and firing into new channels of the culture normally completely unaffected by politics?
No, it’s not merely his youthful vigor, or handsomeness, or even inspiring rhetoric. It is not fresh ideas or cool charisma or the fact that a black president will be historic and revolutionary in about a thousand different ways. It is something more. Even Bill Clinton, with all his effortless, winking charm, didn’t have what Obama has, which is a sort of powerful luminosity, a unique high-vibration integrity.
Dismiss it all you like, but I’ve heard from far too many enormously smart, wise, spiritually attuned people who’ve been intuitively blown away by Obama’s presence – not speeches, not policies, but sheer presence – to say it’s just a clever marketing ploy, a slick gambit carefully orchestrated by hotshot campaign organizers who, once Obama gets into office, will suddenly turn from perky optimists to vile soul-sucking lobbyist whores, with Obama as their suddenly evil, cackling overlord.
Here’s where it gets gooey. Many spiritually advanced people I know (not coweringly religious, mind you, but deeply spiritual) identify Obama as a Lightworker, that rare kind of attuned being who has the ability to lead us not merely to new foreign policies or health care plans or whatnot, but who can actually help usher in a new way of being on the planet, of relating and connecting and engaging with this bizarre earthly experiment. These kinds of people actually help us evolve. They are philosophers and peacemakers of a very high order, and they speak not just to reason or emotion, but to the soul.
The unusual thing is, true Lightworkers almost never appear on such a brutal, spiritually demeaning stage as national politics. This is why Obama is so rare. And this why he is so often compared to Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr., to those leaders in our culture whose stirring vibrations still resonate throughout our short history.
Are you rolling your eyes and scoffing? Fine by me. But you gotta wonder, why has, say, the JFK legacy lasted so long, is so vital to our national identity? Yes, the assassination canonized his legend. The Kennedy family is our version of royalty. But there’s something more. Those attuned to energies beyond the literal meanings of things, these people say JFK wasn’t assassinated for any typical reason you can name. It’s because he was just this kind of high-vibration being, a peacemaker, at odds with the war machine, the CIA, the dark side. And it killed him.
Now, Obama. The next step. Another try. And perhaps, as Bush laid waste to the land and embarrassed the country and pummeled our national spirit into disenchanted pulp and yet ironically, in so doing has helped set the stage for an even larger and more fascinating evolutionary burp, we are finally truly ready for another Lightworker to step up.
Let me be completely clear: I’m not arguing some sort of utopian revolution, a big global group hug with Obama as some sort of happy hippie camp counselor. I’m not saying the man’s going to swoop in like a superhero messiah and stop all wars and make the flowers grow and birds sing and solve world hunger and bring puppies to schoolchildren.
Please. I’m also certainly not saying he’s perfect, that his presidency will be free of compromise, or slimy insiders, or great heaps of politics-as-usual. While Obama’s certainly an entire universe away from George W. Bush in terms of quality, integrity, intelligence and overall inspirational energy, well, so is your dog. Hell, it isn’t hard to stand far above and beyond the worst president in American history.
But there simply is no denying that extra kick. As one reader put it to me, in a way, it’s not even about Obama, per se. There’s a vast amount of positive energy swirling about that’s been held back by the armies of BushCo darkness, and this energy has now found a conduit, a lightning rod, is now effortlessly self-organizing around Obama’s candidacy.
People and emotions and ideas of high and positive vibration are automatically drawn to him. It’s exactly like how Bush was a magnet for the low vibrational energies of fear and war and oppression and aggression, but, you know, completely reversed. And different. And far, far better.
Don’t buy any of it? Think that’s all a bunch of tofu-sucking New Agey bulls– and Obama is really a dangerously elitist political salesman whose inexperience will lead us further into darkness because, when you’re talking national politics, nothing, really, ever changes? I understand. I get it. I often believe it myself.
Not this time.
Thank you BlueJay. I apologize for the rude remarks I aimed at you.
As best you can, continue supporting the Dem way.
Former sodomite Campbell County, WY Fire Chief Gary Scott, 54, was sentenced to more than 24 years in prison on 10 federal felony convictions of taking children under the age of 18 across state lines for years to sexually molest them. Many of the young victims were in a children’s fire cadet program started by Scott after Campbell County hired him as fire chief in 1991. Because of the violation of his position of trust in supervising young boys, U.S. District Judge Clarence Brimmer handed the pervert a sentence harsher than federal guidelines, leaving him little hope of living long enough to leave federal prison.
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Fourth District Judge Stephens Winters sentenced Roy “Bubba” Moore, 23, of West Monroe, LA to merely 3 years in prison on Monday. Moore actually received 10 years, but the last seven years of the sentence were unfathomably suspended. In March, Moore pleaded guilty as charged to one count of felony carnal knowledge of a juvenile, a 14-year-old girl who was impregnated by the pervert. Moore was arrested in November when a hospital notified investigators that the minor girl was committing an abortion. Her baby was killed at 5 weeks gestation.
Moore also admitted to fathering a 1-year-old child by another 16-year-old victim.
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Child porn will no longer be prosecuted in Australia, if a Hollywood star like Cate Blanchett calls it “artistic.”
See news page
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66387
lightworker…
Yes sir buddy!
Maybe Obama will actually not transpose numbers like 10,000 deaths and 57 states. I’ve never known anyone to do that while actually talking, writing yes, talking no.
Obama is functionally disabled to grasp figures of reality.
And all of you anti-choicers are rooting for the FLDS child molesters to get off scott free.
As far as the Obama piece you cited, there are others mocking that as rock star like teen girls fainting kindof following and I tend to agree.
Substance is far more important than a ‘feel’.
Seriously, does nobody else have the problem where sometimes the words on the screen scroll by themselves to the left?
It’s like someone tabbed the entire left side of the posts off sometimes. If you hold up a piece of paper so that the screen is half covered, that’s what I can read. And I can’t figure out why it does that once in awhile. Drives me nuts.
Thanks, JR, CF2K, and KansasNative.
Except for your posts, this entire thread was a total waste of bandwidth.
By the way, Nathan. Real Christians don’t question the Christianity of other Christians.
Political_mama
Posted June 7, 2008 at 10:50 pm |
“Seriously, does nobody else have the problem where sometimes the words on the screen scroll by themselves to the left?”
mama, how many glasses of wine have you had this evening? The the only time I experience that phenomenon is when I exceed my limit of one or two small glasses.
Now I’m just kidding you, I have no idea what is going on with your screen.
You aren’t leaning on a mouse button are you, or check and make sure your screen covers the width of your monitor.
CapnAmerica,
I am not questioning the Christianity of other Christians because Chas is not one.
I know Chas. I also know Nathan.
I am not a Christian and have an unbiased view.
Based on posts here and meeting them in person, Chas is the better definition of a Christian.
Nathan is a self righteous, rich, spoiled, bigot.
Nathaniel,
Are you going to answer my earlier post?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/06/open-thread-68/#comment-364579
Cosmos,
Better watch out, you could be found guilty of stalking me!
Seriously, if I was going to answer your post I would have.
I told you, when you are ready to have a serious discussion I will respond to you.
Otherwise, why waste my time?
Nathaniel,
I just want to know who is the source for your claim:
“However, 2 million barrels a day for the next 15 years IS a significant amount of oil.”
You MADE the claim, so why don’t you answer?
Are you going to make me “disappear“, just for asking?
“It’s like someone tabbed the entire left side of the posts off sometimes.”
A while back, on very long threads, sometimes a few characters of the left side of posts would be cut off.
But don’t think I’ve had that happen since the blog switched to Wordpress.
Also, there’s a lot of white space on both side of posts. Even at 1024×768, the window can be narrowed from left to right, and you still have space for ‘history’, or whatever you want handy.
Cosmos,
I already told you why I don’t answer. I have no interest in talking with someone who is unable to hold an honest discussion like you.
There are a few posters I enjoy talking to who won’t have an honest discussion, but you are not one of them.
Nathaniel,
I am just trying to have an “honest discussion”.
Nathaniel MADE this claim:
“However, 2 million barrels a day for the next 15 years IS a significant amount of oil.”
I’m just curious why Nathaniel believes that oil companies can do that amazing feat when,
1) It’d be about 10 years for the first tiny trickle of oil.
2) The production MIGHT (50% chance, ignores costs) look something like this graph.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/analysis_publications/arctic_national_wildlife_refuge/html/figure4.html
But it seems that all that Nathaniel can do is falsely call me dishonest.
And run away.
BTW: TAPS has a maximum thruput of about 2 million bbls/day, and is currently handling about 0.7+ million bbls/day. If the Refuge was capable of 2 million bbls/day, TAPS could only transport 1.3 million of it.
One things for sure, if we don’t start drilling our huge oil reserves in Alaska, Florida Coast and Shale Coal, we won’t get a drop of it. Even after overhead, have more reserves than Saudi Arabia.
Important correction:
TAPS has a thruput of about 2 million bbls/day… unless it gets shutdown.
Like it was by a drunk, with a hunting rifle, during heightened security.
‘Alaska clean-up ‘could take years’ ‘
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1584553.stm
The Army studied TAPS, and said that it was “indefensible”.
Mechanical failures, especially in remote areas, could also cause a long-term shutdown.
Good night; Good luck; God bless –
Whatever you conceive God to be!
Blessings ALL!!
So mote it be!!
Jay, I don’t think anyone could have said it better. I can only guess how difficult it was to say. I go back to my time of disappointment and the time it took me to move forward, for some sort of understanding of what you’re now facing. I feel for you and half the people of the Democratic Party. I respect and applaud your efforts and acknowledge it could have been either one who became the presumptive nominee. I also acknowledge that the rules declared the winner, not necessarily the people.
I believe rules are necessary to keep order. If the rules need to be addressed / changed I don’t think it can be done during the process or that they can be changed to match changed circumstances. I do hope something was learned and lessons will be applied to prevent a repeat of “circumstances” faced this election period.
Some are saying THE race for our next president just ended.
I think the part that makes us proud as Americans just ended. The nastiness, evil, vile, lying, stupid part has just begun. We will need to be united and vigilant. The Republican Party is a force of nasty politics and it will take all of us to move America away from where they have taken us.
I know one of the best candidates was just eliminated. What we’re left with is one man who will lead our country to peace and prosperity and another who can’t and won’t. Senator Clinton recognizes this clearly and will work tirelessly to make sure our country and each American has an opportunity for progress and MUCH better than we’ve had as a result of bushco.
Oh yeah….the great messiah Obammmmmma.
Gee, the idiocy…all feeling no substance.
Jay was right lindainks55, at least Clinton had some knowledge instead of just showmanship.
Dance poodle dance!
boxtop = angry, white man
………..all talk and no action