We have moved from self-consciousness, where we feel alone and in fear, to cosmic consciousness, where we know and experience our oneness with the Universe.
The shift of humanity to cosmic consciousness is increasing across the planet, and the evolution of it is inevitable.
We are entering a new era in humankind, and it is an era that the greatest beings who have ever lived, dreamed of.
SEOUL CLIMATE TALKS DEADLOCKED ON MANDATORY EMISSIONS TARGETS
I have long ago lost track of all the international conferences about climate. They must be a lot of fun to have so many of them. A nice holiday at taxpayer expense, I guess. Anyway, the one below seems to be the latest
Major carbon dioxide emitters failed to agree on a numerical target for reducing the world’s greenhouse gas emissions by 50 percent by 2050 even though the final session of a two-day meeting here was extended into Monday morning, conference sources said.
According to the sources, however, participants in the fourth Major Economies Meeting on Energy Security and Climate Change (MEM) did manage to hammer out a broad agreement on a draft MEM leaders’ declaration to be issued on July 9 after talks to be held on the sidelines of the Group of Eight summit meeting in Toyakocho, Hokkaido, which starts July 7.
The MEM comprises 16 nations, including China, India and South Korea, and the European Union plus the eight countries that form the G-8. Its first meeting was held at the initiative of the United States in September. The participating nations account for about 80 percent of the world’s greenhouse gas emissions.
The G-8 groups Japan, Britain, Canada, France, Italy, Germany, Russia and the United States.
The content of the draft declaration has not been made public. According to sources, the draft indicates that developing nations also will be invited to take part in discussions on a post-Kyoto Protocol framework, based on the premise of receiving financial assistance from industrialized countries and technology cooperation aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
In regard to the long-term target of reducing the world’s greenhouse gas emissions by half by 2050, as proposed by Japan, the draft incorporates a certain understanding and awareness of this goal on the part of emerging economies, such as China and India, in addition to industrialized nations, according to the sources.
But this does not mean all 16 participating countries agreed to set a definite numerical goal, non-Japanese conference sources said, indicating that participants failed to clarify specific numerical targets and reach agreement on reducing greenhouse gas emissions by half.
As for a midterm goal targeted for around 2020 through 2030, opinion was divided with industrialized nations calling on the emerging economies to share the responsibility for curbing greenhouse gas emissions. For their part, the emerging economies urged the industrialized nations to reduce their emissions in advance, the sources said.
For this reason, the draft failed to incorporate a definite agreement or goal, a Japanese government source said.
Speaking at a press conference Monday, Mitoji Yabunaka, administrative vice foreign minister, said: “It’s good that a [draft declaration] document was compiled with the aim of submitting it to the G-8 summit. But it’s not yet complete.”
I completely concur, native. But the “new age” talk will not fly with these folks. Anyhow, this is what I feel is currently taking place as well. And…uh oh, this is what I feel the Maya were speaking of (and the 12212012 thing). But regardless of and in spite of anyone else (who looks at this as “quackery”) I am looking forward to whatever my come and the truth being known. Knowing that we are ALL one consciousness is a beautiful thing to me. I can hardly wait, because right now, I’m disgusted with “humanity”.
I find it funny that, Hillary can’t control her own budget (she was running for President in order to “control” and “guide” The People’s budget). She is in debt 20+ Millions and now Obama wants to socialize paying her debt off by asking his supporters to subsidize her debt.
Arctic sea ice could break apart completely at the North Pole this year, allowing ships to sail over the normally frozen top of the world.
The potential landmark thaw - the first time in human history the pole would be ice-free - is a stark sign of global warming, according to an article Friday on the web site of the The Independent, a London newspaper.
“Symbolically it is hugely important,” said Mark Serreze of the U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center in Colorado. “There is supposed to be ice at the North Pole, not open water.”
Last year, the fabled Northwest Passage opened as Arctic ice retreated more than ever before.
There is no land at the North Pole, but as long as anyone has looked, it has remained a giant block of ice year-round. Scientists have been watching Arctic sea ice melt more and more each year. But each summer in recent years, the amount of ice has gotten thinner and thinner. Each winter’s freeze, therefore, results in a thinner pack that, this summer, could melt altogether.
“The issue is that, for the first time that I am aware of, the North Pole is covered with extensive first-year ice,” Serreze is quoted by The Independent. “I’d say it’s even-odds whether the North Pole melts out.”
Russia and other countries, meanwhile, have been arguing over who has rights to the region’s resources, including potential oil reserves.
Several studies in recent years have predicted that the North Pole could be ice-free within a few decades. Alarm has ratcheted up every summer as the ice gets thinner and thinner. In a study released June 10, scientist said the rapid meltoff in the Arctic could threaten permafrost in continental soil elsewhere above the Arctic circle in a warm version of the snowball effect.
Last summer saw a record melt of Arctic sea ice, which shrank to more than 30 percent below its average. Around the peak of the melt, in September, air temperatures over land in the western Arctic from August to October were more than 4 degrees Fahrenheit (2 degrees Celsius) above the 1978-2006 average.
“The rapid loss of sea ice can trigger widespread changes that would be felt across the region,” said Andrew Slater, also of the National Snow and Ice Data Center.
DAMN IT Pleefer. I was thinking about the exact same thing on my drive home last night. Was going to post it as my first post this AM. Walked into a grass fire at work. First time I’ve been at my desk all day.
Thinking back to his superbly ran campaign got me to thinking about these bumbling fools that are still left and the catstrophe’s of the “budgets” they had.
Are the terrorists winning?
The alling dollar, skyrocketing energy prices, sharp stock market declines… I can’t help but think that this chaos is fallout from the 9/11 attack and Bush’s foolish and disastrous response to it.
Implications of this story are clear that kids do not follow the guidelines of “safe sex”.
Telling kids that having sex is safe as long as you wear a condom encourages them to be more comfortable in entering sexual situations thinking that they will just wear a condom and be okay. However, once in those situations, they will often choose NOT to wear a condom due to the pressure to be “cool”.
Since we don’t expect better behavior from kids, the decline in the moral decisions they make is inevitable and we will continue to see more stories such as this one:
A Pennsylvania school district has such a high number of students with sexually transmitted diseases that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has stepped in to track down students at risk for HIV.
A major evolutionary innovation has unfurled right in front of researchers’ eyes. It’s the first time evolution has been caught in the act of making such a rare and complex new trait.
And because the species in question is a bacterium, scientists have been able to replay history to show how this evolutionary novelty grew from the accumulation of unpredictable, chance events.
Twenty years ago, evolutionary biologist Richard Lenski of Michigan State University in East Lansing, US, took a single Escherichia coli bacterium and used its descendants to found 12 laboratory populations.
The 12 have been growing ever since, gradually accumulating mutations and evolving for more than 44,000 generations, while Lenski watches what happens.
Profound change
Mostly, the patterns Lenski saw were similar in each separate population. All 12 evolved larger cells, for example, as well as faster growth rates on the glucose they were fed, and lower peak population densities.
But sometime around the 31,500th generation, something dramatic happened in just one of the populations – the bacteria suddenly acquired the ability to metabolise citrate, a second nutrient in their culture medium that E. coli normally cannot use.
Indeed, the inability to use citrate is one of the traits by which bacteriologists distinguish E. coli from other species. The citrate-using mutants increased in population size and diversity.
“It’s the most profound change we have seen during the experiment. This was clearly something quite different for them, and it’s outside what was normally considered the bounds of E. coli as a species, which makes it especially interesting,” says Lenski.
Rare mutation?
By this time, Lenski calculated, enough bacterial cells had lived and died that all simple mutations must already have occurred several times over.
That meant the “citrate-plus” trait must have been something special – either it was a single mutation of an unusually improbable sort, a rare chromosome inversion, say, or else gaining the ability to use citrate required the accumulation of several mutations in sequence.
To find out which, Lenski turned to his freezer, where he had saved samples of each population every 500 generations. These allowed him to replay history from any starting point he chose, by reviving the bacteria and letting evolution “replay” again.
Would the same population evolve Cit+ again, he wondered, or would any of the 12 be equally likely to hit the jackpot?
Evidence of evolution
The replays showed that even when he looked at trillions of cells, only the original population re-evolved Cit+ – and only when he started the replay from generation 20,000 or greater. Something, he concluded, must have happened around generation 20,000 that laid the groundwork for Cit+ to later evolve.
Lenski and his colleagues are now working to identify just what that earlier change was, and how it made the Cit+ mutation possible more than 10,000 generations later.
In the meantime, the experiment stands as proof that evolution does not always lead to the best possible outcome. Instead, a chance event can sometimes open evolutionary doors for one population that remain forever closed to other populations with different histories.
Lenski’s experiment is also yet another poke in the eye for anti-evolutionists, notes Jerry Coyne, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Chicago. “The thing I like most is it says you can get these complex traits evolving by a combination of unlikely events,” he says. “That’s just what creationists say can’t happen.”
And anectodally, I have dated many Europeans (mostly French) with comprehensive sex ed, as well as extremely religious men raised as Protestants with abstinence-only sex ed.
One of these groups is more responsible about sex than the other. This is just my story, so it’s not really evidence….but…just saying.
From a poster ID’s “appalled” on another blog, a suggestion for Barack Obama in handling dealing with all the “inartful statements:”
In traveling throughout these 57 states of ours, I have had to take a lot of positions. Some without a teleprompter. Some, I just pull out of – the air. If some of these positions conflict – well, then I’m conflicted. Because I cannot deny these positions, any more than I can deny myself.
But if what I say does not contribute to the air of unity which can and will calm the oceans and cool the fevered air, then all I can say is that what was said was not truly said by me, but said by an aide who was confused, or angry and bitterbecause he could not finish his waffle. Let me then, finish my aide’s waffle for him and say that, in speaking for me, the aide did not speak for me, but for some image of me that I do not care to project right now.
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Seems entirely consistent with BHO’s usual waffling (pun intended).
The story linked to by RFL is sad in so many ways.
There are so many lessons to be learned here.
In no particular order, some that come to mind:
a) We MUST tell children about the dangers of unprotected sex
b) We MUST try in some nondemeaning way, to reduce the sexuallity of today’s society (maybe it can;t be done—you know, the cat out of the bag” situation
c) With the recent link by cancer specialists between esophageal cancer and HPV, we need to explain that “safe” sex ain;t necessary so
d) We need parents to actually parent their children, not let “others: do their damn job
e) We need to quit defending the little darlings, and “letting boys be boys and girls be girls” and
explain part of the moral reason against premarital sex came from the realworld consequences.
f) We as adults, in our movies, our advertising, and our media, need to quit sexifying and making money from the sexifying of youngsters
g) In many other areas, we need to let children be children, and not “miniature adults”
h) We need as adult to not model instant gratification and to hell with everything else.
i) One of the sadder notes, after sending out the letter, they have only recieved a handful of calls by parents. How fn sad.
In any case, regardless of the reasons, it is sad.
GMC70, does posting another’s words that are supposed to make Obama look like a waffler or inept on more than one thread make it more valid in your opinion?
well I don’t know about the rest of you but I’m very glad that I had sex before marriage.
I learned a lot from those experiences, a lot about me, and what I enjoyed and what I didn’t, and I didn’t feel pressured into making a commitment for life to someone I was incompatable with.
I hear the same stories from women who had gotten married right out of school, most of them are divorced now and enjoying their sexual freedom for the first time…if they didn’t end up in an affair first.
I tell my daughter about sex now that she is an adult, that she should be sure about when it is time to have sex and when it is not. how to be safe when she does choose and how important that is. It seems to take the wind out of the sails that it isn’t so taboo.
I asked her to wait until adulthood, and she held to that. I’m very proud of that fact. Now that she is an adult, I never want her to run into a marriage just so she can have sex. I want her to play the field, to learn who she is and what she really wants….and that’s for everything not just sex.
The thing is, your abstinence only education has done just the opposite…and that is proven. So why stick to failed policies if it obviously isn’t working? How about do what works instead?
Do you REALLY want to cut down on the number of kids having sex or do you want them to subscribe to ideals that they will break, making them feel disappointed with their selves?
that seems to be the corner on all this abstinence in religion. Guilt for being human.
“Something, he concluded, must have happened around generation 20,000 that laid the groundwork for Cit+ to later evolve.”
Bacteria A begets Bacteria B. Let’s make this clear Bacteria A and Bacteria B are both still bacteria no different than both myself and Michael Jordan are human beings. But that doesn’t mean I can or even capable of ever dunking a basketball like Michael Jordan.
Somehow, Bacteria B can metabolize citrate while Bacteria A could not. However, Bacteria B is still Bacteria not much different then Bacteria A is bacteria. Evolution? or adaptive change within genotype?
Let’s leave the Michael Jordan example and look at what happens in sucessive human generations.
My Dad was really good at kicking a football as a youngster, I am really good at shooting a basketball into a hoop.
Ironically, my Dad grew up without a basketball hoop while I was brought up in a area where basketball was popular sport
Something must have happened to give me the ability to do something of greater complexity that my father lacked.
I adapted to a culture where basketball was popular by developing an ability due to a pre-existing competitive nature given to me by a very complex being.
Political_mama
Posted June 27, 2008 at 12:36 pm | Permalink
The thing is, your abstinence only education has done just the opposite…and that is proven. So why stick to failed policies if it obviously isn’t working? How about do what works instead?
Do you REALLY want to cut down on the number of kids having sex or do you want them to subscribe to ideals that they will break, making them feel disappointed with their selves?
that seems to be the corner on all this abstinence in religion. Guilt for being human.”
I don;t really know if you are addressing me or not, but I would like to reply
1) I don;t subscribe to the abstinence only sexual education program. I subscribe to the absitncnce plus program. ALways have.
2) Yes, I want to cut down on the number of kids having sex, and the slow creep downward at the age it seems to be accepable
3)Yes, I want them to subscribe to ideals they will break, in all aspects of their life. If we only subscribe to the ideals of the lowest common denominator, we will never succeed at anything. I do not want them to feel “guilt” when they fail those ideals, but “regret” and a determination to strive harder. Failing at reaching the ideal is not the lifebreaker some think it is.
I wasn’t referring to you but I don’t mind at all that you threw your two cents in.
My response about abstinence only is for those who believe in abstience only.
I don’t believe in setting unrealistic goals. I beleive in standards. There are very few absolutes in life.
I beleive killing is wrong unless in self defense, in the most heinous of crimes, and war.
I also believe that a fetus IS a human baby.
I also believe that a woman’s body is HERS and hers only, and that anything growing inside of her that affects her so profoundly in so many ways should be her decision to deal with.
I can argue against a fetus being a human baby, but that really isn’t where I personally come from.
So my solution to the dilemna is to keep girls and women from feeling that they must choose abortion. Of course, there will always be a need, women who get pregnant on purpose still have babies with horrible diseases and feel it is more humane to abort. But that could be so few an far between that we could almost totally eliminate abortion SIMPLY by prevention.
Prevention means just that, prevent the PREGNANCY, not demanding women not have sex by riddling them with guilt- we know that doesn’t work. It means being proactive in knowing yourself well enough to anticipate sex, instead of believing that you won’t do it, then land in a situation where its happening and then unprepared for it. We should treat pregnancy and sex like we do communicable diseases..universal precautions. Just ASSUME that everyone WILL have sex at some point in time, and put the prevention in place before it happens. Just like we carry gloves on our person or in the ambulance. We know we’re going to need them eventually so they’re just there and accessible all the time.
Sexuality is a HUGE part of a person’s life, from infancy to death. We teach our children how to be women and men starting at birth. People retain their sexuality all the way to death. To deny it is unnatural.
I also think some of these highly religious people believe that if they repent enough for their error in having sex in the first place, god will not punish them with a pregnancy. I’ve got issue with those who believe God directly causes things to happen. Well if God is punishing someone for having sex, why did he let it happen in the first place?
Oddly it also seems the ones who are terrified of it the most will end up pregnant…and have to go to their neoconservative parents and tell them they’ve had sex and are now pregnant, where they’ll be shamed, guilted, or possibly forced by coersion to marry the man they got pregnant with.
Abstinence only ed doesn’t teach kids where to get condoms, how to use them, or how to use condoms with birth control pills. They may know they exist, but going and getting them might seem daunting.
And remember, you’re the ones who want to remove every planned parenthood where they can get access to these things that prevent pregnancy in the first place.
Scientists predict that the North Pole will be entirely ice free this summer.
It seems unthinkable, but for the first time in human history, ice is on course to disappear entirely from the North Pole this year.
The disappearance of the Arctic sea ice, making it possible to reach the Pole sailing in a boat through open water, would be one of the most dramatic – and worrying – examples of the impact of global warming on the planet. Scientists say the ice at 90 degrees north may well have melted away by the summer.
Seasoned polar scientists believe the chances of a totally icefreeNorth Pole this summer are greater than 50:50 . . .
Someone also pointed out the difference between European pregnancy rates. that’s telling in more ways than one.
European kids are more EXPOSED to sex..have you seen their ads on TV? Many of them would be banned outright and fined in teh US. Yet with all of that ‘endorsement of sex’, they still do better than we do. Why? Becuase they have a more open mind about sex and do exactly what I just wrote in my post above. They anticipate that they will have sex and they teach them how to prepare for it.
I had heard of this researcher before–he had found in the past that when the glucose is reduced different strains of the bacteria react in different ways to the starvation diet. All those mechanisms help the e. coli survive, but they are different mechanisms.
Given enough time and environmental stressors, it’s obvious that the e. coli would develop into a new species.
I just looked at Google Earth Satellite and there appears to be an abundance of ice up in that neck of the woods. In fact, Greenland is covered with a solid sheet of, wait for it…ice.
Of course, my eyes could be lying to me and all that white stuff is just desert sand.
The melted pole: More breathtaking stupidity from the mainstream media
From The Independent:
Exclusive: No ice at the North Pole
It seems unthinkable, but for the first time in human history, ice is on course to disappear entirely from the North Pole this year. The disappearance of the Arctic sea ice, making it possible to reach the Pole sailing in a boat through open water, would be one of the most dramatic - and worrying - examples of the impact of global warming on the planet. Scientists say the ice at 90 degrees north may well have melted away by the summer.
“From the viewpoint of science, the North Pole is just another point on the globe, but symbolically it is hugely important. There is supposed to be ice at the North Pole, not open water,” said Mark Serreze of the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre in Colorado.
From a June 20 National Geographic article:
Arctic warming has become so dramatic that the North Pole may melt this summer, report scientists studying the effects of climate change in the field. “We’re actually projecting this year that the North Pole may be free of ice for the first time [in history],” David Barber, of the University of Manitoba, told National Geographic News aboard the C.C.G.S. Amundsen, a Canadian research icebreaker.
But there’s a big problem with this “alarming” story: it’s not even rare for the North Pole to be ice free. See the details here, and note that the New York Times ran (and then retracted) a similar story back in August 2000. From a November 2000 Patrick Michaels article:
By August 29, the level of outrage the Times had incurred provoked a half-hearted retraction of sorts, on page D-3, where the paper admitted it misstated the true condition of polar ice, noting that about 10 percent of the Arctic Ocean is open in the summer and that those open areas do in fact sometimes extend to the Pole. McCarthy, the Times reported, “would not argue with critics who said that open water at the pole was not unprecedented.” How about the truth? Open water is common.
That’s apparent from even a cursory look at the U.N.’s own temperature data or from a study of climate history. Climatologists are pretty sure that polar regions were around 2øC warmer than they are today during the period from 4,000 to 7,000 years ago. That’s three millennia in which summer sea-ice was likely more scattered than it is today. The only ecological catastrophe ecologists might be able say resulted from this deplorable condition was the rise of human civilization.
KansasNative
Posted June 27, 2008 at 10:27 am | Permalink
Arctic sea ice could break apart completely at the North Pole this year, allowing ships to sail over the normally frozen top of the world.
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Could it be that the Multi-nic KansasNative is CapnAmerica?
I mean they have the same writing style and even posted the same subject matter today. They even know the history of posters from several years. Yes, yes, I think we have a winner here.
BTW, the Northwest passage was free and clear twice in the 20th century. During the 1940s, a Canadian government trawler sailed completed through the passage and in the late 19th century, an explorer document his path through the Northwest passage.
This report about the Northwest passage is not new and it’s the same lies spread by the Global Warming Alarmists.
LIARS! The temperature never stays the same ALL the time! You’re all a bunch of socialist/Marxist/communists trying to pry our freedom one step at a time! al-Gore is a fraud who is making MILLIONS of DOLLARS off this scam!
People have NO EFFECT on the temperature! Use your heads! The Earth’s temperature changes ALL THE TIME!!!
FRAUDS! LIARS! COMMUNISTS!
Posted by: T-Hawkk in Texas | Friday, 27 June 2008 at 02:09 AM
The Antarctic set a new record (since records began in 1979) for sea ice extent at the end of last winter. It stayed well above the normal through the summer with icemelt 40% below the normal. As a new height of irony and hype, the media made a big deal about a fracture of a small part of the Wilkins ice sheet in late February (160 square miles of the 6 million square mile Antarctic ice sheet (0.0027% of the total).
the extent never dropped to less than 1 million square km ABOVE NORMAL during or after the brief event. Currently Antarctic ice extent is running nearly 1 million square kilometers higher than last year at this time. Peak comes at the end of the southern winter (September).
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CapnAmerica
Posted June 27, 2008 at 1:25 pm | Permalink
Regular–
The prediction is by the end of the summer.
Google Earth doesn’t update its images all that often.
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The end of summer is usually followed by umm, Fall. You know that season where temperatures drop.
I’ll find it later, but the Arctic researchers are blaming unusual wind patterns for breaking up the ever floating ice in the North Pole, not global warming.
You do realize it is just ice floating on water? It has no land base underneath it and is very susceptible to current, tide and wind changes.
There are many points to your posting that I disagree with. You speak from your experiences, I speak from mine. I do not think
“Sexuality is a HUGE part of a person’s life, from infancy to death. ” Trying to make sexuality a HUGE part of an infants, or a two year olds, or a 10 year olds, etc is part of what is wrong with society, in my opinion. Sexuality is an ADULT thing. Defining the ADULT agewise downward does not do youngsters any good. You have an adult daughter. You cannot claim to know she had the same maturity of judgement at 11 as she does now. You know better, as does any parent.
“and have to go to their neoconservative parents and tell them they’ve had sex and are now pregnant, where they’ll be shamed, guilted, or possibly forced by coersion to marry the man they got pregnant with”
I used to do youthwork. It wasn;t the religious parents that kicked their kids out. It was the wannabees that felt like their kid shamed the family. It was the dirtbag rednecks that kicked out their kids. It was the “liberal” folks who made their kids get abortions while visitng the aunts so nobody would know. TO be fair, there were some so called religious that did the same thing. The closer to real religion either bucked up and supported their family, including th unborm member, or in the best interest of the teenager, and the unborm child, opted for birth and adoption. I have seen most of the scenarios.
My advice to teenagers and below. Don;t have sex. It ain;t worth the risks. My second piece of advice: No condom, no sex. No matter what your boyfriend tells you. HE”S LYING! My last piece of advice. Find an adult that you can talk to. First, try your parents. Don;t prejudge, just try. If that doesn;t work, find someone else. But find an adult to talk to.
“Thank God for the pleasure that abstinence before marriage brings!”
Are you referring to masturbation? or what?
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I was referring to marital bliss that followed. I love being married a spouse that was worth waiting for.
I married a truly great person who shares the same values as I. As a result, I have never had either STD’s or surprise life altering pregnancies, nor worried about infidelity as a married person.
Being abstinent before marriage has given me all the freedom this country can offer to do what is best for my own welfare. I also have a sense if integrity to boot.
If only kids realized this and were taught that actions now determine a pleasant life or a miserable one later.
Premarital sex NEVER has positive consequences and most consequences are unequivocally negative. This is true no matter what society’s views of acceptable moral behavior happens to be.
Huge volcanic fires under the Arctic icecap discovered
Reality trumps theory again: An international expedition has discovered gigantic volcanic eruptions in the Arctic Ocean. Ya think it might melt some of the ice above it?
An international team of researchers was able to provide evidence of explosive volcanism in the deeps of the ice-covered Arctic Ocean for the first time. Researchers from an expedition to the Gakkel Ridge, led by the American Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI), report in the current issue of the journal Nature that they discovered, with a specially developed camera, extensive layers of volcanic ash on the seafloor, which indicates a gigantic volcanic eruption.
“Explosive volcanic eruptions on land are nothing unusual and pose a great threat for whole areas,” explains Dr Vera Schlindwein of the Alfred Wegener Institute for Polar and Marine Research in the Helmholtz Association. She participated in the expedition as a geophysicist and has been, together with her team, examining the earthquake activity of the Arctic Ocean for many years. “The Vesuvius erupted in 79 AD and buried thriving Pompeii under a layer of ash and pumice. Far away in the Arctic Ocean, at 85ø N 85ø E, a similarly violent volcanic eruption happened almost undetected in 1999 - in this case, however, under a water layer of 4,000 m thickness.”
So far, researchers have assumed that explosive volcanism cannot happen in water depths exceeding 3 kilometres because of high ambient pressure. “These are the first pyroclastic deposits we’ve ever found in such deep water, at oppressive pressures that inhibit the formation of steam, and many people thought this was not possible,” says Robert Reves-Sohn, staff member of the WHOI and lead scientist of the expedition carried out on the Swedish icebreaker Oden in 2007.
A major part of Earth’s volcanism happens at the so-called mid-ocean ridges and, therefore, completely undetected on the seafloor. There, the continental plates drift apart; liquid magma intrudes into the gap and constantly forms new seafloor through countless volcanic eruptions. Accompanied by smaller earthquakes, which go unregistered on land, lava flows onto the seafloor. These unspectacular eruptions usually last for only a few days or weeks.
The Gakkel Ridge in the Arctic Ocean spreads so slowly at 6-14 mm/year, that current theories considered volcanism unlikely - until a series of 300 strong earthquakes over a period of eight months indicated an eruption at 85ø N 85ø E in 4 kilometres water depth in 1999. Scientists of the Alfred Wegener Institute became aware of this earthquake swarm and reported about its unusual properties in the periodical EOS in the year 2000.
Vera Schlindwein and her junior research group are closely examining the earthquake activity of these ultraslow-spreading ridges since 2006. “The Gakkel Ridge is covered with sea-ice the whole year. To detect little earthquakes, which accompany geological processes, we have to deploy our seismometers on drifting ice floes.” This unusual measuring method proved highly successful: in a first test in the summer 2001 - during the “Arctic Mid-Ocean Ridge Expedition (AMORE)” on the research icebreaker Polarstern - the seismometers recorded explosive sounds by the minute, which originated from the seafloor of the volcanic region. “This was a rare and random recording of a submarine eruption in close proximity,” says Schlindwein. “I postulated in 2001 that the volcano is still active. However, it seemed highly improbable to me that the recorded sounds originated from an explosive volcanic eruption, because of the water depth of 4 kilometres.”
The scientist regards the matter differently after her participation in the Oden-Expedition 2007, during which systematic earthquake measurements were taken by Schlindwein’s team in the active volcanic region: “Our endeavours now concentrate on reconstructing and understanding the explosive volcanic episodes from 1999 and 2001 by means of the accompanying earthquakes. We want to know, which geological features led to a gas pressure so high that it even enabled an explosive eruption in these water depths.” Like Robert Reves-Sohn, she presumes that explosive eruptions are far more common in the scarcely explored ultraslow-spreading ridges than presumed so far.
I listened to the speeches Senators Clinton and Obama made in their unity meeting. I was impressed, motivated, inspired.
So many issues — the war that must end to do any good for anybody, our faltering economy, appointment of Supreme Court Justices, respecting science and not censoring scientists, affordable health care for everyone, jobs, education, repairing America’s standing as a strong country of laws where force is used when necessary but diplomacy always the preferred practice, respecting the Constitution and civil liberties — all these issues and more need attention of our leaders. Those two people will both be among those leaders, in posttions of greater strength and greater majorities and they will work together to achieve progress. It’s more than past time for true leadership. We really do have a brighter future to look forward to!
Linking McCain’s POW experience to his work with Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Massachusetts, on an immigration bill may seem like a stretch, but the point is that McCain’s camp is casting its guy as someone who takes on tough fights.
“They’re defining him as a fierce patriot who strongly loves his country and will do anything to sacrifice himself, anything for the better of the country,” said Republican strategist John Feehery.
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So tough and sacrificng is McShame that he won’t work weekends and has missed over 300 Senate votes since April.
AB is staving off a buyout by a foreign company. Or, at least a higher per share price. Unclear which. Their stated purpose is to stay an American company.
In an interview with the Las Vegas Sun, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was asked by columnist Jon Ralston why he didn’t choose Gov. Jim Gibbons to chair his Nevada campaign.
“I appreciate his support,” McCain said. “As you know, the lieutenant governor is our chairman.”
Why snub the governor? Ralston asked.
“I didn’t mean to snub him,. I’ve known the lieutenant governor for 15 years and we’ve been good friends,” McCain said. “I didn’t intend to snub him. There are other states where the governor is not the chairman.”
Maybe it’s the governor’s approval rating and you are running from him like you are from the president? Asked Ralston in a question McCain clearly found loaded.
Said McCain, chuckling, “And I stopped beating my wife just a couple of weeks ago.”
Some have found the subject of McCain’s joke — wife-beating — inappropriate.
Louisiana Gov. Jindal Authorizes Chemical Castration Of Sex Offenders
“Rising Republican star Bobby Jindal signed legislation allowing judges to force convicted rapists to undergo chemical castration
“Jindal, the country’s youngest governor and the first with Indian roots, is often cited as a potential Vice Presidental nominee for McCain. He has spoken out in defense of intelligent design and written about his participation in an exorcism.”
Said McCain, chuckling, “And I stopped beating my wife just a couple of weeks ago.”
Just another senior moment from John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term).
About a month ago, McSame compared Barack Obama with William Jennings Bryan! A guy who last ran for President exactly 100 years ago this year! Yeah, that’s a relevant political touchstone for ya!
A couple of weeks ago, McBush tried out his “Obama is running for Jimmy Carter’s third term.” Jimmy Carter left office 3-point-8 decades ago! At least he moved up to a 20th Century political reference.
Now he’s doing Jackie Gleason, making comedy hay with wife-beating jokes. Everyone from the Baby Boomer generation is mourning the passing of George Carlin and McC*nt is doing Henny Youngman. How long before he starts working blue with pre-Sanford Redd Foxx?
A President McSame would commision a Lawrence Welk version of “Hail to the Chief,” with bubbly flutes and, hopefully, to a polka beat. (Y’know, what the kids like.)
Then again, this is the pilot of The Straight Talk Express. Maybe he really DID stop beating the trollop c*nt “a couple of weeks ago.” And not a moment too soon.
I hope “Chas” sees this. I’m gonna share it despite my fear that the twice-born among us — such as “Nathaniel,” “HLP,” “okobserver,” “MaxGrobnik,” “Regular et al” — will likely damn my heathen soul to eternal damnation.
It’s a prayer I shared with the friends and loves of my late brother-in-law at this afternoon’s memorial service. It was written for the occasion by William Nance.
Great Creator.
As the great eagle soars into the heavens, please let him accompany those
souls who have most recently left us. See them safely to the beyond and
guide them swiftly and truly.
For those who have departed this world
May the Creator accept their spirits into his realm
May the grandfathers and grandmothers be there to welcome them
May they walk in beauty once again.
For those who have left us
May their songs be sung for those who have remained behind
May their stories be remembered and proudly told by their families
May they be there to greet us when we arrive.
For those who still walk among the living
May their minds be stilled and their hearts content
May they dwell in love and comfort in their days
May they have a warm place by the fire and a full bowl
For those who give of themselves to others
May they find support when they stumble
May they find the strength to carry on
May they find peace in their hearts
For the children and those who come after
May they become kind in their ways
May they remember those who have gone before
May they have the courage to live honorable lives
Oh, Great Creator, we humbly ask that you look upon us with pity and help us
to bear our burdens.
We hurt.
Please send a ray of light to help us see in our hour of darkness.
Please heal our spirits and make us strong so we can complete our tasks.
Help us to see the beauty that surrounds us.
Please give us a sweet taste and not let us become bitter.
We ask this for the people who have lost their way, for the people who must
guide the way for them, for our children and for the children of our
children.
RFL–
I hesitate to even start this head-bang-wall discussion, but microbiologists use citrate medium as a way to distinguish between unknown bacteria. E. coli is know to not use citrate. It’s a big deal. Kind of on par with humans being able to breathe underwater, I think.
“Somehow, Bacteria B can metabolize citrate while Bacteria A could not. However, Bacteria B is still Bacteria not much different then Bacteria A is bacteria. Evolution? or adaptive change within genotype?”
The problem is, you people have have no distinction between “adaptative change within a genotype” and “evolution”, except for “it’s not evolution unless I say it is”. “Not much different”? Who gets to decide that? It’s so arbitrary. This research has demonstrated evidence that complex biochemical pathways can evolve–it’s more refuting the likes of Behe who accept an old earth and evolution between species, but have problems with complexity at the cellular level. There are a few posters on here who have that belief, and this was more for them.
People like you, though, the 6,000 year old earth literal genesis creation are kind of beyond help or discussion (shrug). It’s ok, because your type are pretty much irrelevant to the field of science–I’d only be worried if you were a teacher or something.
Wait, I take it back. I think this kind of change in humans would be on par with “Humans suddenly able to breathe without oxygen”–anaerobic respiration. The water example isn’t enough, because there is still oxygen and nitrogen in water.
“People like you, though, the 6,000 year old earth literal genesis creation are kind of beyond help or discussion (shrug). It’s ok, because your type are pretty much irrelevant to the field of science–I’d only be worried if you were a teacher or something.”
Kind of a bit insulting don’t you think?
I have many friends in the field of science who are Doctors, Teachers, Chemists, and even a Neural Surgeon who all believe in creation.
What is “irrelevant” in science is having to accept that all life evolved from some life form millions of years ago that you assumed to have come about but can’t explain how or show any proof for.
I’m sorry for your loss, MonkeyHawk. That was a beautiful prayer. I hope it gave the comfort it intended.
Do you suppose McCain thinks he is “cool,” or hopes someone will find him such? I’ll openly admit I’m too old to know what the term that surely has replaced “cool” is! But I’m a decade younger than this old geezer who is trying to make a point with inappropriate comments!
Of course, he did call his wife both a c**t and a trollop in public! So we already know he isn’t presidential timber!
And did you read about his stellar potential VP choice? This guy would help doofus HOW?
I’m sorry for your loss, MonkeyHawk. That was a beautiful prayer. I hope it gave the comfort it intended.
Thanks.
It did.
And it was an amazing combination of people who came together to mourn him… from work, from college, from his Naval career, former golf partners and foes, his neighbors, the hospice workers, his family and sometimes-crazy in-laws (which includes me), the people at his final residence who didn’t just care for him, they cared about him, clergy, lay-people, a former CEO of a Fortune 100 company… and me. And this prayer a man wrote when he got the news of by brother-in-law’s passing, touched them all.
Turned out to be a one of those wonderful celebrations of life we all want funerals to be.
Nathan,
I apologize if that’s insulting, but if all of your attempts at demonstrating evidence of something is blatantly ignored, you’d throw you hands up and figure it’s a lost cause, too.
How many times have we done this?
What is a kind
What is an adaptation
How different does something have to be to be called “evolution”
How many years since the Flood, and did each “kind” whatever that is evolve into all the species here today?
If so, have mutation rates slowed down since then? Why? What’s your evidence for this?
What about plants? Are all plants one kind? Did a sequoia and a unicellular green alga have a common ancestor? If so, how is adaption to this degree possible in the small amount of time proposed?
Ad nauseum….Eveything I have ever posted in support of evolution, you have simply just pointed out it COULD be explained by creation (but only if God was deceitful and made the evidence look like something it’s not). You’ve never given me any evidence of your own. I’ve posted so much, on adaptive radiation in Hawaii, the silversword alliance, E.coli, Vitamin C gene, molecular phylogeny and much more. You have not brought anything to the table, except insistence that “there is no evidence for evolution” and that “we weren’t there, so we don’t know that happened”. Hmmmm….by that logic we should never take anyone to trial for murder, ever, because even if all of the evidence points to conviction, “we weren’t there”.
So yes, I do think your kind is a lost cause. I’m sure you have many intellects and talents in other fields, but definitely not science. To believe in a young earth, literal 6 day creation requires active cognitive dissonance and a shaky faith in God–as if He couldn’t produce all of this by evolution.
“I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.” –Galileo Galilei
First of all, I don’t expect you to believe in a Young Earth Creation.
I don’t want that taught without solid evidence.
Most of my belief in a Young Earth is purely based on faith, some evidence.
The problem with these discussions on Evolution is that you expect me to prove what I believe to refute Evolution.
In any logical discussion or even scientific one, Evolutions truth and validity is not based on the fact of something else being able to take it’s place being true or not.
It is not an either/or between Evolution and Young Earth Creation where if Creation is not true Evolution must be.
Evolutionary theory is either true on it’s own merits or it is not. Creation should have nothing to do with it beyond any evidence for creation that would contradict Evolution.
Nathaniel believes that an agricultural economist, who LIES about what 100’s of climate scientists believe, is a credible climate science source. LOL!!!
I may have been unfair to expect that you would have objected that it spoke to our “Dear Creator” and didn’t say, “Father-Jesus-Lord-God” at every opportunity.
But if you reread William Nance’s prayer, it was obviously given to a “God, however you perceive him,” that “Chas” ususally signs off with; with a “God” or “Creator” or “Christ” or Central Force of Existence none of us can possibly understand, much less define.
I think it’s a blessing to me, and especially to you, that you realize William Nance’s prayer constitutes a “beautiful” spiritual moment.
Even if Jesus wasn’t mentioned.
I have no problem with your personal spiritual journey, “Nathaniel.” Go for it! If it works for you, solid.
But when you have taken your personal relationship with the Christ to the lengths you have in this forum — “You are not a Christian.” — you step over the line. And I will, rhetorically anyway, move to push you back.
That’s all I’m sayin’.
“Too bad you felt you needed to share it while making an insinuation about myself and others here.”
I can only deal with the evidence presented, “Nathaniel.”
I expected the worst from you.
And I’ve gotta give you credit for understanding the deep spiritual, universal beauty of William Nance’s prayer.
It tells me that, even though your personal spiritual walk with the Almighty involves a deep and personal commitment to Jesus of Nazareth, you might recognize there might — just MIGHT — realize there might be other pathways toward Glory.
I’m not sure you realize what you’ve given me, “Nathaniel.”
But I appreciate it and respect it and embrace it.
God — whatever or whomever or however you conceive “God” to be — bless you, “Nathaniel.”
I know that recently the scientific community has been trying to blurr the line between what used to be called Micro and Macro Evolution in an attempt to prove Evolution.
It doesn’t work here.
When I am talking about Evolutionary theory, I am talking about Darwinian Evolutionary theory. The 99% of the theory which is what can’t be proven, observed, or tested as “theories” are supposed to be.
Everything that we have ever discussed is what is called Micro-evolution. Of course it happens.
The problem is that Evolutionary theory is about Macro Evolution to.
The part where some lifeform which just came into existence, we don’t know how but assume so, then spawned an entire Evolutionary tree over the past millions of years.
That is the part of Evolutionary theory with which I completely disagree with and the so called evidence of is rather lacking.
You can say that I dont have any inteelect or tallent in science all you want to.
It is nothing more than the typical insult I have come to expect from discussions with people like you.
Perhaps talking to me about Young Earth creation is a lost cause, but don’t presume to think that I don’t understand science.
Evolutionary theory is not ALL of science. There are many fields of study in science which have nothing to do with Evolutionary theory.
Yet people like you choose to mock me and say that I don’t understand science because I disagree with one theory?
By that logic, no one could ever question anything anyone does in the scientific community for fear that they would be rejecting science or mocked for not understanding science.
How absurd.
So lets keep the insults out of the discussion shall we?
If you can’t debate or discuss the topic without them, then don’t bother posting at all.
“The 99% of the theory which is what can’t be proven, observed, or tested as “theories” are supposed to be.”
So it’s that 1% that keeps on getting proven over and over again? You don’t know what you are talking about.
Dr. Richard Lenski has been doing a 20 year research study on ecoli. His experiment proves, yet again, that evolution is a scientific fact. It really irks the creationists that he routinely froze his populations of ecoli so he can resume the experiment from any point during the research to prove his point again.
Evolution before our very eyes, just the sort of thing which you say is a fairy tale. On the other hand the evidence for creationism remains at zero. Kinda a one sided debate.
Why does the city not Buy Joy Land and let Warren build a place their ?They can even have the Cow Town band doing shows.They can hire all the illegal’s that they wont do anything about and let them work for nothing or next to it.On cinco de mayo day they can re-enact the way they got over here by swimming across the canal. Then we can turn the go cart track into a truck only track and they can drive the course again and again playing carnival music. at half time they can have a judging on who has the best mud flaps and hood orniments.They can also en-act another way to get to the states by cramming 10,000 of them on the train.The paople that gamble can pay to go to the chicken fights.Come on Wichita get with it… Do something about these illegal’s or we will election day !!!
“Wow! Watching Ecoli for 30,000 gernarations proves that there was some first life form that all life evolved from!”
Wow, you don’t even know what the theory of evolution is. Absolutely amazing. It’s like me saying quantum mechanics is wrong without knowing anything about it. I bet you just revel in your ignorance. Is the subject of evolution brand new to you? Is your brain so small that bits on knowledge just leak out on a constant basis?
The theory of magnetism doesn’t explain why airplanes fly therefore it must be wrong. That’s the same sort of stupid reasoning you are using Nathan. Damn boy, get an education.
“It tells me that, even though your personal spiritual walk with the Almighty involves a deep and personal commitment to Jesus of Nazareth, you might recognize there might — just MIGHT — realize there might be other pathways toward Glory.”
Monkey if the football rules are that you have to run down the field, all 100 yards, not step out of bounds, then and ony then will you be awarded 6 points. You can’t run behind the bleachers because they are no tacklers there, you can’t have someone on a golf cart give you a ride, you can’t take time out for a rest break in the bleachers, you can’t stop to get a cotton candy, because you need a sugar surge - eventhough you eventually reach the end zone you don’t get the 6 points.
Well Christians believe the we are taught that ‘the only way to the Father is thru the Son’. John 3:16 says that ‘who soever believes on Him will have everlasting life’. You can believe that there are many roads to glory but neither you nor Chas can decide that there are many paths to glory for all people.
Thats the way is is for true Christians. Now you can accept or deny what I just said but you can’t in all honesty expect a Christian to agree with you on your views of a Christian faith you don’t share.
Your funerary prayer is greatly significant in the life of the one who has passed, and is extremely comforting to those left behind. And it also speaks to those not yet among us.
It is a prayer that truly embraces the entire cycle of life. I have saved it in my computer files for funeral services, and no doubt will be used at some future point in my own ministry.
Thanks SO much for that contribution… And I am sure that those closest to you brother-in-law found great comfort in the words you have expressed.
“You can’t expect anything rational from Nathaniel on science issues.
Nathaniel believes that an agricultural ECONOMIST is a climate scientist.”
It just amazes me that the standards for education in Kansas are so lax that they’d graduate Nathan without knowing basic concepts in science. I guess you don’t need an education if you are going to be a grunt.
“…as part of his negative critique of Obama’s liberal stances on economic issues and other matters, he termed the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee “John Kerry with a tan.”
Addington: Vice President Isn’t Part Of Executive Branch, ‘Attached’ To Legislative
“In a protracted battle with the National Archives last year, Vice President Dick Cheney sought to avoid submitting records to the archives by claiming that the office of the vice president is not part of the executive branch. During today’s House Judiciary Committee hearing, Cheney’s chief of staff David Addington reasserted that position, declaring the vice president’s office to be a separate entity that “attached” to the legislative branch.”
“This is nothing new. Bacteria constantly mutate and develop resistance to drugs.
Micro-evolution. The bacteria is still a bacteria is it not?”
Thanks for affirming you know nothing about the subject. Is the inability to learn a quality all creationists must have in order to be a part of the scientific illiteracy club? Next time actually read the information on the links, it may save you some embarrassment.
Obamanation and his campaign supporters and gushing fans in the media are trying to hush up news and arguments about his rabid promotion of taxpayer-funded partial-birth and live-birth abortions, now banned by federal laws he vows to overturn in order to raise abortion mill profits – his favorite cash cow. They claim voters want to hear instead how Obamanation can fix $4 gas prices by raising taxes, since abortion is a narrow issue, adversely affecting only about one third of American women and most of their family and close friends . . . and 50 million dead babies.
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A Senate appropriations subcommittee voted Tuesday to cut abstinence education funding by 25%, but President Bush may veto the bill that includes the change. The funding cut is included in a $631 billion bill that funds the departments of Labor, Health and Human Services and Education. The cut reduces the funding to $84.8 million for fiscal year 2009. The legislation would also put $300 million in the pocket of Planned Parenthood through the federal government’s Title X family planning programs. The bill keeps the funding level the same as last year. The reason for the push against abstinence education funding is that it diverts money away from the high-failure-rate condoms and contraceptives that Planned Parenthood shoves at schoolchildren, in order to reap obscene profits from abortion and venereal disease treatments.
Because the bill exceeds the president’s proposed budget by $7.2 billion, it will most likely face a veto, although merely funding criminal, racist Planned Parenthood with a single taxpayer dollar is sufficient reason for a veto.
Meanwhile, the U.S. House has passed extended Title V abstinence education funding for another year.
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“This is horrible stuff. It promotes birth control, sexual activity (and) makes a joke of abstinence. It mocks parents and makes us out to be idiots.”
. . . parent Kerry Knott, complaining to the Batavia, IL library director, along with 60 other parents, about the library website link to Planned Parenthood’s Teenwire teen web page
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Meanwhile, 10% of the 3000 middle and high school students in the Delaware Valley School District in Milford, PA became infected with a venereal disease during the past year - including one confirmed case of HIV – and 2 dozen girls are pregnant. Most of the infections are HPV, very common amongst the promiscuous. Students as young as 12 are reported to be promiscuous. School officials sent a letter to parents, telling them – what, that your child is a public health hazard? And the CDC is stepping in to – what, quarantine the offenders? The Board of Education is, of course, dropping references to abstinence in health curricula, and instead recommending the ineffective, dangerous, painful, and expensive series of Gardasil injections, as better advice to schoolchildren.
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We have moved from self-consciousness, where we feel alone and in fear, to cosmic consciousness, where we know and experience our oneness with the Universe.
The shift of humanity to cosmic consciousness is increasing across the planet, and the evolution of it is inevitable.
We are entering a new era in humankind, and it is an era that the greatest beings who have ever lived, dreamed of.
SEOUL CLIMATE TALKS DEADLOCKED ON MANDATORY EMISSIONS TARGETS
I have long ago lost track of all the international conferences about climate. They must be a lot of fun to have so many of them. A nice holiday at taxpayer expense, I guess. Anyway, the one below seems to be the latest
Major carbon dioxide emitters failed to agree on a numerical target for reducing the world’s greenhouse gas emissions by 50 percent by 2050 even though the final session of a two-day meeting here was extended into Monday morning, conference sources said.
According to the sources, however, participants in the fourth Major Economies Meeting on Energy Security and Climate Change (MEM) did manage to hammer out a broad agreement on a draft MEM leaders’ declaration to be issued on July 9 after talks to be held on the sidelines of the Group of Eight summit meeting in Toyakocho, Hokkaido, which starts July 7.
The MEM comprises 16 nations, including China, India and South Korea, and the European Union plus the eight countries that form the G-8. Its first meeting was held at the initiative of the United States in September. The participating nations account for about 80 percent of the world’s greenhouse gas emissions.
The G-8 groups Japan, Britain, Canada, France, Italy, Germany, Russia and the United States.
The content of the draft declaration has not been made public. According to sources, the draft indicates that developing nations also will be invited to take part in discussions on a post-Kyoto Protocol framework, based on the premise of receiving financial assistance from industrialized countries and technology cooperation aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
In regard to the long-term target of reducing the world’s greenhouse gas emissions by half by 2050, as proposed by Japan, the draft incorporates a certain understanding and awareness of this goal on the part of emerging economies, such as China and India, in addition to industrialized nations, according to the sources.
But this does not mean all 16 participating countries agreed to set a definite numerical goal, non-Japanese conference sources said, indicating that participants failed to clarify specific numerical targets and reach agreement on reducing greenhouse gas emissions by half.
As for a midterm goal targeted for around 2020 through 2030, opinion was divided with industrialized nations calling on the emerging economies to share the responsibility for curbing greenhouse gas emissions. For their part, the emerging economies urged the industrialized nations to reduce their emissions in advance, the sources said.
For this reason, the draft failed to incorporate a definite agreement or goal, a Japanese government source said.
Speaking at a press conference Monday, Mitoji Yabunaka, administrative vice foreign minister, said: “It’s good that a [draft declaration] document was compiled with the aim of submitting it to the G-8 summit. But it’s not yet complete.”
One day even HLP will evolve.
I completely concur, native. But the “new age” talk will not fly with these folks. Anyhow, this is what I feel is currently taking place as well. And…uh oh, this is what I feel the Maya were speaking of (and the 12212012 thing). But regardless of and in spite of anyone else (who looks at this as “quackery”) I am looking forward to whatever my come and the truth being known. Knowing that we are ALL one consciousness is a beautiful thing to me. I can hardly wait, because right now, I’m disgusted with “humanity”.
I have evolved KN.
I use to think that I was a human undergoing a spiritual experience. I now realize I am a spirit undergoing a very brief human experience.
You are not a spirit…you are spirit.
whatever
I bit presumptuous of KansasNative to be telling folks who or what they are.
As with Hank, I am a spirit. And I have a body. The only collective I belong to is the Body of Christ.
I find it funny that, Hillary can’t control her own budget (she was running for President in order to “control” and “guide” The People’s budget). She is in debt 20+ Millions and now Obama wants to socialize paying her debt off by asking his supporters to subsidize her debt.
Am I looking at this all wrong?
“Am I looking at this all wrong?”
Nope, you seem to have a pretty good handle on it!
I think it’s going to get funnier and funnier before November! Can hardly wait for the conventions!
Arctic sea ice could break apart completely at the North Pole this year, allowing ships to sail over the normally frozen top of the world.
The potential landmark thaw - the first time in human history the pole would be ice-free - is a stark sign of global warming, according to an article Friday on the web site of the The Independent, a London newspaper.
“Symbolically it is hugely important,” said Mark Serreze of the U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center in Colorado. “There is supposed to be ice at the North Pole, not open water.”
Last year, the fabled Northwest Passage opened as Arctic ice retreated more than ever before.
There is no land at the North Pole, but as long as anyone has looked, it has remained a giant block of ice year-round. Scientists have been watching Arctic sea ice melt more and more each year. But each summer in recent years, the amount of ice has gotten thinner and thinner. Each winter’s freeze, therefore, results in a thinner pack that, this summer, could melt altogether.
“The issue is that, for the first time that I am aware of, the North Pole is covered with extensive first-year ice,” Serreze is quoted by The Independent. “I’d say it’s even-odds whether the North Pole melts out.”
Russia and other countries, meanwhile, have been arguing over who has rights to the region’s resources, including potential oil reserves.
Several studies in recent years have predicted that the North Pole could be ice-free within a few decades. Alarm has ratcheted up every summer as the ice gets thinner and thinner. In a study released June 10, scientist said the rapid meltoff in the Arctic could threaten permafrost in continental soil elsewhere above the Arctic circle in a warm version of the snowball effect.
Last summer saw a record melt of Arctic sea ice, which shrank to more than 30 percent below its average. Around the peak of the melt, in September, air temperatures over land in the western Arctic from August to October were more than 4 degrees Fahrenheit (2 degrees Celsius) above the 1978-2006 average.
“The rapid loss of sea ice can trigger widespread changes that would be felt across the region,” said Andrew Slater, also of the National Snow and Ice Data Center.
DAMN IT Pleefer. I was thinking about the exact same thing on my drive home last night. Was going to post it as my first post this AM. Walked into a grass fire at work. First time I’ve been at my desk all day.
Spot on anyway brother.
Now that you mention it, Dr. Paul never ran a deficit budget in his campaign. In fact, I think he suspended his bid up 5 mil.
Thinking back to his superbly ran campaign got me to thinking about these bumbling fools that are still left and the catstrophe’s of the “budgets” they had.
Are the terrorists winning?
The alling dollar, skyrocketing energy prices, sharp stock market declines… I can’t help but think that this chaos is fallout from the 9/11 attack and Bush’s foolish and disastrous response to it.
The terrorists are in Washington and until people realize that, yeah, they’re winning.
Implications of this story are clear that kids do not follow the guidelines of “safe sex”.
Telling kids that having sex is safe as long as you wear a condom encourages them to be more comfortable in entering sexual situations thinking that they will just wear a condom and be okay. However, once in those situations, they will often choose NOT to wear a condom due to the pressure to be “cool”.
Since we don’t expect better behavior from kids, the decline in the moral decisions they make is inevitable and we will continue to see more stories such as this one:
A Pennsylvania school district has such a high number of students with sexually transmitted diseases that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has stepped in to track down students at risk for HIV.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,372728,00.html
Thank God for the pleasure that abstinence before marriage brings!
Did I post this here yet? It’s a few weeks old:
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/life/dn14094-bacteria-make-major-evolutionary-shift-in-the-lab.html
Bacteria make major evolutionary shift in the lab
A major evolutionary innovation has unfurled right in front of researchers’ eyes. It’s the first time evolution has been caught in the act of making such a rare and complex new trait.
And because the species in question is a bacterium, scientists have been able to replay history to show how this evolutionary novelty grew from the accumulation of unpredictable, chance events.
Twenty years ago, evolutionary biologist Richard Lenski of Michigan State University in East Lansing, US, took a single Escherichia coli bacterium and used its descendants to found 12 laboratory populations.
The 12 have been growing ever since, gradually accumulating mutations and evolving for more than 44,000 generations, while Lenski watches what happens.
Profound change
Mostly, the patterns Lenski saw were similar in each separate population. All 12 evolved larger cells, for example, as well as faster growth rates on the glucose they were fed, and lower peak population densities.
But sometime around the 31,500th generation, something dramatic happened in just one of the populations – the bacteria suddenly acquired the ability to metabolise citrate, a second nutrient in their culture medium that E. coli normally cannot use.
Indeed, the inability to use citrate is one of the traits by which bacteriologists distinguish E. coli from other species. The citrate-using mutants increased in population size and diversity.
“It’s the most profound change we have seen during the experiment. This was clearly something quite different for them, and it’s outside what was normally considered the bounds of E. coli as a species, which makes it especially interesting,” says Lenski.
Rare mutation?
By this time, Lenski calculated, enough bacterial cells had lived and died that all simple mutations must already have occurred several times over.
That meant the “citrate-plus” trait must have been something special – either it was a single mutation of an unusually improbable sort, a rare chromosome inversion, say, or else gaining the ability to use citrate required the accumulation of several mutations in sequence.
To find out which, Lenski turned to his freezer, where he had saved samples of each population every 500 generations. These allowed him to replay history from any starting point he chose, by reviving the bacteria and letting evolution “replay” again.
Would the same population evolve Cit+ again, he wondered, or would any of the 12 be equally likely to hit the jackpot?
Evidence of evolution
The replays showed that even when he looked at trillions of cells, only the original population re-evolved Cit+ – and only when he started the replay from generation 20,000 or greater. Something, he concluded, must have happened around generation 20,000 that laid the groundwork for Cit+ to later evolve.
Lenski and his colleagues are now working to identify just what that earlier change was, and how it made the Cit+ mutation possible more than 10,000 generations later.
In the meantime, the experiment stands as proof that evolution does not always lead to the best possible outcome. Instead, a chance event can sometimes open evolutionary doors for one population that remain forever closed to other populations with different histories.
Lenski’s experiment is also yet another poke in the eye for anti-evolutionists, notes Jerry Coyne, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Chicago. “The thing I like most is it says you can get these complex traits evolving by a combination of unlikely events,” he says. “That’s just what creationists say can’t happen.”
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Welp.
Ummm….RFL: From the last sentence in the story you posted:
“The Board of Education is currently revising the health curriculum, which places heavy emphasis on abstinence.”
I doubt this curriculum involved educating children about safe sex.
“Thank God for the pleasure that abstinence before marriage brings!”
Are you referring to masturbation? or what?
And anectodally, I have dated many Europeans (mostly French) with comprehensive sex ed, as well as extremely religious men raised as Protestants with abstinence-only sex ed.
One of these groups is more responsible about sex than the other. This is just my story, so it’s not really evidence….but…just saying.
“Thank God for the pleasure that abstinence before marriage brings!”
I always had a problem with the involuntary abstinence AFTER marriage.
involuntary abstinence AFTER marriage
Damn wedding cake….
From a poster ID’s “appalled” on another blog, a suggestion for Barack Obama in handling dealing with all the “inartful statements:”
In traveling throughout these 57 states of ours, I have had to take a lot of positions. Some without a teleprompter. Some, I just pull out of – the air. If some of these positions conflict – well, then I’m conflicted. Because I cannot deny these positions, any more than I can deny myself.
But if what I say does not contribute to the air of unity which can and will calm the oceans and cool the fevered air, then all I can say is that what was said was not truly said by me, but said by an aide who was confused, or angry and bitterbecause he could not finish his waffle. Let me then, finish my aide’s waffle for him and say that, in speaking for me, the aide did not speak for me, but for some image of me that I do not care to project right now.
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Seems entirely consistent with BHO’s usual waffling (pun intended).
The story linked to by RFL is sad in so many ways.
There are so many lessons to be learned here.
In no particular order, some that come to mind:
a) We MUST tell children about the dangers of unprotected sex
b) We MUST try in some nondemeaning way, to reduce the sexuallity of today’s society (maybe it can;t be done—you know, the cat out of the bag” situation
c) With the recent link by cancer specialists between esophageal cancer and HPV, we need to explain that “safe” sex ain;t necessary so
d) We need parents to actually parent their children, not let “others: do their damn job
e) We need to quit defending the little darlings, and “letting boys be boys and girls be girls” and
explain part of the moral reason against premarital sex came from the realworld consequences.
f) We as adults, in our movies, our advertising, and our media, need to quit sexifying and making money from the sexifying of youngsters
g) In many other areas, we need to let children be children, and not “miniature adults”
h) We need as adult to not model instant gratification and to hell with everything else.
i) One of the sadder notes, after sending out the letter, they have only recieved a handful of calls by parents. How fn sad.
In any case, regardless of the reasons, it is sad.
GMC70, does posting another’s words that are supposed to make Obama look like a waffler or inept on more than one thread make it more valid in your opinion?
GMC said waffle…
yum…
well I don’t know about the rest of you but I’m very glad that I had sex before marriage.
I learned a lot from those experiences, a lot about me, and what I enjoyed and what I didn’t, and I didn’t feel pressured into making a commitment for life to someone I was incompatable with.
I hear the same stories from women who had gotten married right out of school, most of them are divorced now and enjoying their sexual freedom for the first time…if they didn’t end up in an affair first.
I tell my daughter about sex now that she is an adult, that she should be sure about when it is time to have sex and when it is not. how to be safe when she does choose and how important that is. It seems to take the wind out of the sails that it isn’t so taboo.
I asked her to wait until adulthood, and she held to that. I’m very proud of that fact. Now that she is an adult, I never want her to run into a marriage just so she can have sex. I want her to play the field, to learn who she is and what she really wants….and that’s for everything not just sex.
The thing is, your abstinence only education has done just the opposite…and that is proven. So why stick to failed policies if it obviously isn’t working? How about do what works instead?
Do you REALLY want to cut down on the number of kids having sex or do you want them to subscribe to ideals that they will break, making them feel disappointed with their selves?
that seems to be the corner on all this abstinence in religion. Guilt for being human.
“Something, he concluded, must have happened around generation 20,000 that laid the groundwork for Cit+ to later evolve.”
Bacteria A begets Bacteria B. Let’s make this clear Bacteria A and Bacteria B are both still bacteria no different than both myself and Michael Jordan are human beings. But that doesn’t mean I can or even capable of ever dunking a basketball like Michael Jordan.
Somehow, Bacteria B can metabolize citrate while Bacteria A could not. However, Bacteria B is still Bacteria not much different then Bacteria A is bacteria. Evolution? or adaptive change within genotype?
Let’s leave the Michael Jordan example and look at what happens in sucessive human generations.
My Dad was really good at kicking a football as a youngster, I am really good at shooting a basketball into a hoop.
Ironically, my Dad grew up without a basketball hoop while I was brought up in a area where basketball was popular sport
Something must have happened to give me the ability to do something of greater complexity that my father lacked.
I adapted to a culture where basketball was popular by developing an ability due to a pre-existing competitive nature given to me by a very complex being.
Evidence of evolution? Not quite.
Political_mama
Posted June 27, 2008 at 12:36 pm | Permalink
The thing is, your abstinence only education has done just the opposite…and that is proven. So why stick to failed policies if it obviously isn’t working? How about do what works instead?
Do you REALLY want to cut down on the number of kids having sex or do you want them to subscribe to ideals that they will break, making them feel disappointed with their selves?
that seems to be the corner on all this abstinence in religion. Guilt for being human.”
I don;t really know if you are addressing me or not, but I would like to reply
1) I don;t subscribe to the abstinence only sexual education program. I subscribe to the absitncnce plus program. ALways have.
2) Yes, I want to cut down on the number of kids having sex, and the slow creep downward at the age it seems to be accepable
3)Yes, I want them to subscribe to ideals they will break, in all aspects of their life. If we only subscribe to the ideals of the lowest common denominator, we will never succeed at anything. I do not want them to feel “guilt” when they fail those ideals, but “regret” and a determination to strive harder. Failing at reaching the ideal is not the lifebreaker some think it is.
Ummm….RFL: From the last sentence in the story you posted:
“The Board of Education is currently revising the health curriculum, which places heavy emphasis on abstinence.”
I doubt this curriculum involved educating children about safe sex.
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Yep, I’m sure these kids never heard of a condom.
If they are truly and sincerely being taught abstinence and they don’t listen, why then will they listening to the call to use a condom?
Don’t believe the kids are that dumb as to have no clue as to the existence of a condom.
the bacteria suddenly acquired the ability to metabolise citrate
Wahine_Tara,
Does this mean we can look forward to our lemonade coming from petri dishes rather than lemons on trees?
I wasn’t referring to you but I don’t mind at all that you threw your two cents in.
My response about abstinence only is for those who believe in abstience only.
I don’t believe in setting unrealistic goals. I beleive in standards. There are very few absolutes in life.
I beleive killing is wrong unless in self defense, in the most heinous of crimes, and war.
I also believe that a fetus IS a human baby.
I also believe that a woman’s body is HERS and hers only, and that anything growing inside of her that affects her so profoundly in so many ways should be her decision to deal with.
I can argue against a fetus being a human baby, but that really isn’t where I personally come from.
So my solution to the dilemna is to keep girls and women from feeling that they must choose abortion. Of course, there will always be a need, women who get pregnant on purpose still have babies with horrible diseases and feel it is more humane to abort. But that could be so few an far between that we could almost totally eliminate abortion SIMPLY by prevention.
Prevention means just that, prevent the PREGNANCY, not demanding women not have sex by riddling them with guilt- we know that doesn’t work. It means being proactive in knowing yourself well enough to anticipate sex, instead of believing that you won’t do it, then land in a situation where its happening and then unprepared for it. We should treat pregnancy and sex like we do communicable diseases..universal precautions. Just ASSUME that everyone WILL have sex at some point in time, and put the prevention in place before it happens. Just like we carry gloves on our person or in the ambulance. We know we’re going to need them eventually so they’re just there and accessible all the time.
Sexuality is a HUGE part of a person’s life, from infancy to death. We teach our children how to be women and men starting at birth. People retain their sexuality all the way to death. To deny it is unnatural.
I also think some of these highly religious people believe that if they repent enough for their error in having sex in the first place, god will not punish them with a pregnancy. I’ve got issue with those who believe God directly causes things to happen. Well if God is punishing someone for having sex, why did he let it happen in the first place?
Oddly it also seems the ones who are terrified of it the most will end up pregnant…and have to go to their neoconservative parents and tell them they’ve had sex and are now pregnant, where they’ll be shamed, guilted, or possibly forced by coersion to marry the man they got pregnant with.
Abstinence only ed doesn’t teach kids where to get condoms, how to use them, or how to use condoms with birth control pills. They may know they exist, but going and getting them might seem daunting.
And remember, you’re the ones who want to remove every planned parenthood where they can get access to these things that prevent pregnancy in the first place.
Scientists predict that the North Pole will be entirely ice free this summer.
It seems unthinkable, but for the first time in human history, ice is on course to disappear entirely from the North Pole this year.
The disappearance of the Arctic sea ice, making it possible to reach the Pole sailing in a boat through open water, would be one of the most dramatic – and worrying – examples of the impact of global warming on the planet. Scientists say the ice at 90 degrees north may well have melted away by the summer.
Seasoned polar scientists believe the chances of a totally icefreeNorth Pole this summer are greater than 50:50 . . .
Way to be wrong, science deniers.
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/exclusive-no-ice-at-the-north-pole-855406.html
Someone also pointed out the difference between European pregnancy rates. that’s telling in more ways than one.
European kids are more EXPOSED to sex..have you seen their ads on TV? Many of them would be banned outright and fined in teh US. Yet with all of that ‘endorsement of sex’, they still do better than we do. Why? Becuase they have a more open mind about sex and do exactly what I just wrote in my post above. They anticipate that they will have sex and they teach them how to prepare for it.
Great post, Tara.
I had heard of this researcher before–he had found in the past that when the glucose is reduced different strains of the bacteria react in different ways to the starvation diet. All those mechanisms help the e. coli survive, but they are different mechanisms.
Given enough time and environmental stressors, it’s obvious that the e. coli would develop into a new species.
Exactly right, P-Mom.
But not being shamed into puritannical morality, European kids take responsibility for their sexuality.
I recommend just putting one’s daughter on the birth control pill soon after menarche.
It evens out their cycles and makes them a lot easier to manage, and virtually eliminates the worry of pregnancy.
That’s interesting Capn.
I just looked at Google Earth Satellite and there appears to be an abundance of ice up in that neck of the woods. In fact, Greenland is covered with a solid sheet of, wait for it…ice.
Of course, my eyes could be lying to me and all that white stuff is just desert sand.
(chortles)
It’s funny . . . every girl I know of who got pregnant without wanting to goes on the pill after they got pregnant and had the baby.
Yeah, good plan.
The melted pole: More breathtaking stupidity from the mainstream media
From The Independent:
Exclusive: No ice at the North Pole
It seems unthinkable, but for the first time in human history, ice is on course to disappear entirely from the North Pole this year. The disappearance of the Arctic sea ice, making it possible to reach the Pole sailing in a boat through open water, would be one of the most dramatic - and worrying - examples of the impact of global warming on the planet. Scientists say the ice at 90 degrees north may well have melted away by the summer.
“From the viewpoint of science, the North Pole is just another point on the globe, but symbolically it is hugely important. There is supposed to be ice at the North Pole, not open water,” said Mark Serreze of the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre in Colorado.
From a June 20 National Geographic article:
Arctic warming has become so dramatic that the North Pole may melt this summer, report scientists studying the effects of climate change in the field. “We’re actually projecting this year that the North Pole may be free of ice for the first time [in history],” David Barber, of the University of Manitoba, told National Geographic News aboard the C.C.G.S. Amundsen, a Canadian research icebreaker.
But there’s a big problem with this “alarming” story: it’s not even rare for the North Pole to be ice free. See the details here, and note that the New York Times ran (and then retracted) a similar story back in August 2000. From a November 2000 Patrick Michaels article:
By August 29, the level of outrage the Times had incurred provoked a half-hearted retraction of sorts, on page D-3, where the paper admitted it misstated the true condition of polar ice, noting that about 10 percent of the Arctic Ocean is open in the summer and that those open areas do in fact sometimes extend to the Pole. McCarthy, the Times reported, “would not argue with critics who said that open water at the pole was not unprecedented.” How about the truth? Open water is common.
That’s apparent from even a cursory look at the U.N.’s own temperature data or from a study of climate history. Climatologists are pretty sure that polar regions were around 2øC warmer than they are today during the period from 4,000 to 7,000 years ago. That’s three millennia in which summer sea-ice was likely more scattered than it is today. The only ecological catastrophe ecologists might be able say resulted from this deplorable condition was the rise of human civilization.
http://tomnelson.blogspot.com/2008/06/more-breathtaking-stupidity-from.html
Regular–
The prediction is by the end of the summer.
Google Earth doesn’t update its images all that often.
KansasNative
Posted June 27, 2008 at 10:27 am | Permalink
Arctic sea ice could break apart completely at the North Pole this year, allowing ships to sail over the normally frozen top of the world.
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Could it be that the Multi-nic KansasNative is CapnAmerica?
I mean they have the same writing style and even posted the same subject matter today. They even know the history of posters from several years. Yes, yes, I think we have a winner here.
BTW, the Northwest passage was free and clear twice in the 20th century. During the 1940s, a Canadian government trawler sailed completed through the passage and in the late 19th century, an explorer document his path through the Northwest passage.
This report about the Northwest passage is not new and it’s the same lies spread by the Global Warming Alarmists.
LIARS! The temperature never stays the same ALL the time! You’re all a bunch of socialist/Marxist/communists trying to pry our freedom one step at a time! al-Gore is a fraud who is making MILLIONS of DOLLARS off this scam!
People have NO EFFECT on the temperature! Use your heads! The Earth’s temperature changes ALL THE TIME!!!
FRAUDS! LIARS! COMMUNISTS!
Posted by: T-Hawkk in Texas | Friday, 27 June 2008 at 02:09 AM
OOPS: ANTARCTIC SEA ICE AT RECORD LEVELS
The Antarctic set a new record (since records began in 1979) for sea ice extent at the end of last winter. It stayed well above the normal through the summer with icemelt 40% below the normal. As a new height of irony and hype, the media made a big deal about a fracture of a small part of the Wilkins ice sheet in late February (160 square miles of the 6 million square mile Antarctic ice sheet (0.0027% of the total).
Media headlines blared: Bye-bye, Antarctica? and Massive ice shelf collapsing off Antarctica. But as you can see from this Cryosphere chart,
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/JUNE22ANTARCTIC.jpg
the extent never dropped to less than 1 million square km ABOVE NORMAL during or after the brief event. Currently Antarctic ice extent is running nearly 1 million square kilometers higher than last year at this time. Peak comes at the end of the southern winter (September).
This chart,
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg
also from Cryosphere, shows the Global Sea Ice Area from 1979 to present. It begs the question, where’s the melt?
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CapnAmerica
Posted June 27, 2008 at 1:25 pm | Permalink
Regular–
The prediction is by the end of the summer.
Google Earth doesn’t update its images all that often.
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The end of summer is usually followed by umm, Fall. You know that season where temperatures drop.
I’ll find it later, but the Arctic researchers are blaming unusual wind patterns for breaking up the ever floating ice in the North Pole, not global warming.
You do realize it is just ice floating on water? It has no land base underneath it and is very susceptible to current, tide and wind changes.
There are many points to your posting that I disagree with. You speak from your experiences, I speak from mine. I do not think
“Sexuality is a HUGE part of a person’s life, from infancy to death. ” Trying to make sexuality a HUGE part of an infants, or a two year olds, or a 10 year olds, etc is part of what is wrong with society, in my opinion. Sexuality is an ADULT thing. Defining the ADULT agewise downward does not do youngsters any good. You have an adult daughter. You cannot claim to know she had the same maturity of judgement at 11 as she does now. You know better, as does any parent.
“and have to go to their neoconservative parents and tell them they’ve had sex and are now pregnant, where they’ll be shamed, guilted, or possibly forced by coersion to marry the man they got pregnant with”
I used to do youthwork. It wasn;t the religious parents that kicked their kids out. It was the wannabees that felt like their kid shamed the family. It was the dirtbag rednecks that kicked out their kids. It was the “liberal” folks who made their kids get abortions while visitng the aunts so nobody would know. TO be fair, there were some so called religious that did the same thing. The closer to real religion either bucked up and supported their family, including th unborm member, or in the best interest of the teenager, and the unborm child, opted for birth and adoption. I have seen most of the scenarios.
My advice to teenagers and below. Don;t have sex. It ain;t worth the risks. My second piece of advice: No condom, no sex. No matter what your boyfriend tells you. HE”S LYING! My last piece of advice. Find an adult that you can talk to. First, try your parents. Don;t prejudge, just try. If that doesn;t work, find someone else. But find an adult to talk to.
Relax, Reggie–
I’m too arrogant to post under another nic.
I want everybody to know it’s me and only me when I post.
“Thank God for the pleasure that abstinence before marriage brings!”
Are you referring to masturbation? or what?
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I was referring to marital bliss that followed. I love being married a spouse that was worth waiting for.
I married a truly great person who shares the same values as I. As a result, I have never had either STD’s or surprise life altering pregnancies, nor worried about infidelity as a married person.
Being abstinent before marriage has given me all the freedom this country can offer to do what is best for my own welfare. I also have a sense if integrity to boot.
If only kids realized this and were taught that actions now determine a pleasant life or a miserable one later.
Premarital sex NEVER has positive consequences and most consequences are unequivocally negative. This is true no matter what society’s views of acceptable moral behavior happens to be.
Sorry Reguliar…not true…chewing your morphine patches this early in the day?
Huge volcanic fires under the Arctic icecap discovered
Reality trumps theory again: An international expedition has discovered gigantic volcanic eruptions in the Arctic Ocean. Ya think it might melt some of the ice above it?
An international team of researchers was able to provide evidence of explosive volcanism in the deeps of the ice-covered Arctic Ocean for the first time. Researchers from an expedition to the Gakkel Ridge, led by the American Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI), report in the current issue of the journal Nature that they discovered, with a specially developed camera, extensive layers of volcanic ash on the seafloor, which indicates a gigantic volcanic eruption.
“Explosive volcanic eruptions on land are nothing unusual and pose a great threat for whole areas,” explains Dr Vera Schlindwein of the Alfred Wegener Institute for Polar and Marine Research in the Helmholtz Association. She participated in the expedition as a geophysicist and has been, together with her team, examining the earthquake activity of the Arctic Ocean for many years. “The Vesuvius erupted in 79 AD and buried thriving Pompeii under a layer of ash and pumice. Far away in the Arctic Ocean, at 85ø N 85ø E, a similarly violent volcanic eruption happened almost undetected in 1999 - in this case, however, under a water layer of 4,000 m thickness.”
So far, researchers have assumed that explosive volcanism cannot happen in water depths exceeding 3 kilometres because of high ambient pressure. “These are the first pyroclastic deposits we’ve ever found in such deep water, at oppressive pressures that inhibit the formation of steam, and many people thought this was not possible,” says Robert Reves-Sohn, staff member of the WHOI and lead scientist of the expedition carried out on the Swedish icebreaker Oden in 2007.
A major part of Earth’s volcanism happens at the so-called mid-ocean ridges and, therefore, completely undetected on the seafloor. There, the continental plates drift apart; liquid magma intrudes into the gap and constantly forms new seafloor through countless volcanic eruptions. Accompanied by smaller earthquakes, which go unregistered on land, lava flows onto the seafloor. These unspectacular eruptions usually last for only a few days or weeks.
The Gakkel Ridge in the Arctic Ocean spreads so slowly at 6-14 mm/year, that current theories considered volcanism unlikely - until a series of 300 strong earthquakes over a period of eight months indicated an eruption at 85ø N 85ø E in 4 kilometres water depth in 1999. Scientists of the Alfred Wegener Institute became aware of this earthquake swarm and reported about its unusual properties in the periodical EOS in the year 2000.
Vera Schlindwein and her junior research group are closely examining the earthquake activity of these ultraslow-spreading ridges since 2006. “The Gakkel Ridge is covered with sea-ice the whole year. To detect little earthquakes, which accompany geological processes, we have to deploy our seismometers on drifting ice floes.” This unusual measuring method proved highly successful: in a first test in the summer 2001 - during the “Arctic Mid-Ocean Ridge Expedition (AMORE)” on the research icebreaker Polarstern - the seismometers recorded explosive sounds by the minute, which originated from the seafloor of the volcanic region. “This was a rare and random recording of a submarine eruption in close proximity,” says Schlindwein. “I postulated in 2001 that the volcano is still active. However, it seemed highly improbable to me that the recorded sounds originated from an explosive volcanic eruption, because of the water depth of 4 kilometres.”
The scientist regards the matter differently after her participation in the Oden-Expedition 2007, during which systematic earthquake measurements were taken by Schlindwein’s team in the active volcanic region: “Our endeavours now concentrate on reconstructing and understanding the explosive volcanic episodes from 1999 and 2001 by means of the accompanying earthquakes. We want to know, which geological features led to a gas pressure so high that it even enabled an explosive eruption in these water depths.” Like Robert Reves-Sohn, she presumes that explosive eruptions are far more common in the scarcely explored ultraslow-spreading ridges than presumed so far.
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-06/haog-fut062508.php
Here you go, read about the successful trips through the Northwest passage from long ago.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/northwest-passage/
I listened to the speeches Senators Clinton and Obama made in their unity meeting. I was impressed, motivated, inspired.
So many issues — the war that must end to do any good for anybody, our faltering economy, appointment of Supreme Court Justices, respecting science and not censoring scientists, affordable health care for everyone, jobs, education, repairing America’s standing as a strong country of laws where force is used when necessary but diplomacy always the preferred practice, respecting the Constitution and civil liberties — all these issues and more need attention of our leaders. Those two people will both be among those leaders, in posttions of greater strength and greater majorities and they will work together to achieve progress. It’s more than past time for true leadership. We really do have a brighter future to look forward to!
6 months, 26 days, 18 hours, 22 minutes
Whoo hoo!
On Sydney McSame:
Linking McCain’s POW experience to his work with Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Massachusetts, on an immigration bill may seem like a stretch, but the point is that McCain’s camp is casting its guy as someone who takes on tough fights.
“They’re defining him as a fierce patriot who strongly loves his country and will do anything to sacrifice himself, anything for the better of the country,” said Republican strategist John Feehery.
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So tough and sacrificng is McShame that he won’t work weekends and has missed over 300 Senate votes since April.
Missing in Action is a lifstyle for McBush.
The rest of the story on missed vots for th 110th congress. Only showing the top 6 (not show, one member who had a medical problem)
61.5%
Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)
Representing: Arizona
Votes: 369 votes missed (61.5%), 231 votes cast
51.8%
43.5%
Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)
Representing: Illinois
Votes: 261 votes missed (43.5%), 339 votes cast
33.5%
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
Representing: New York
Votes: 201 votes missed (33.5%), 399 votes cast
32.2%
Sen. Joseph Biden (D-DE)
Representing: Delaware
Votes: 193 votes missed (32.2%), 407 votes cast
28.5%
Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-CT)
Representing: Connecticut
Votes: 171 votes missed (28.5%), 429 votes cast
23.5%
Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS)
Representing: Kansas
Votes: 141 votes missed (23.5%), 459 votes cast
12.2%
Shame on them all
Amnesty is fierce patriotism?
Amnesty is for the better of the country?
Color me shocked. Did he buy the R behind his name? Cause he sure doesn’t legislate like one.
For parents out there with kids that chat or text; do you know what these mean?
PIR
P911
PAW
PAL
ASL
Real worry factors:
LMIRL
KPC
Real scary
_____________
TD2M
Gotta run, so here are the answers:
PIR - Parents In Room
P911 Parent emergency – kill the chat box
PAW Parents at work
PAL Parents are listening
ASL Age Sex Location
Real worry factors:
LMIRL Let’s Meet In Real Life
KPC Keeping Parents Clueless
Real scary
TD2M Talk Dirty To Me
Parents, there is software out there that will monitor and log your children’s chat. They will get on when you tell them not to. Stay up on your kids.
To Hell with gas prices, now I am seriously pissed off………..
“Anheuser-Busch plans its future without InBev - Company considering major cuts in workforce and raises in beer prices”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25416712/
“Anheuser-Busch said it will hike the prices on about 85 percent of its beers.”
Damn, this is unAmerican, I tell you, un-freaking-American!
“hike the prices on about 85 percent of its beers”
That’s it! I am going to have to go into someones office and kick their trash can over!!!!
AB is staving off a buyout by a foreign company. Or, at least a higher per share price. Unclear which. Their stated purpose is to stay an American company.
they still do better than we do. Why? — p.m.
My friend from Norway explained it. Americans are stupid.
LJ, you confuse sex with sexuality. Not the same thing.
Obviously I do not agree with infants and 11 year olds having sex!
Gotta run, so here are the answers:
PIR - Parents In Room
P911 Parent emergency – kill the chat box
PAW Parents at work
PAL Parents are listening
ASL Age Sex Location
Real worry factors:
LMIRL Let’s Meet In Real Life
KPC Keeping Parents Clueless
Real scary
TD2M Talk Dirty To Me
Spending a bit of time in the teen chatrooms are we?
McCain Gambles with Awkward Joke
In an interview with the Las Vegas Sun, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was asked by columnist Jon Ralston why he didn’t choose Gov. Jim Gibbons to chair his Nevada campaign.
“I appreciate his support,” McCain said. “As you know, the lieutenant governor is our chairman.”
Why snub the governor? Ralston asked.
“I didn’t mean to snub him,. I’ve known the lieutenant governor for 15 years and we’ve been good friends,” McCain said. “I didn’t intend to snub him. There are other states where the governor is not the chairman.”
Maybe it’s the governor’s approval rating and you are running from him like you are from the president? Asked Ralston in a question McCain clearly found loaded.
Said McCain, chuckling, “And I stopped beating my wife just a couple of weeks ago.”
Some have found the subject of McCain’s joke — wife-beating — inappropriate.
http://tinyurl.com/42wnzd
Haven’t we had enough of a president who is a doofus??
It is going to be so good and refreshing to have President Obama represent America!
Louisiana Gov. Jindal Authorizes Chemical Castration Of Sex Offenders
“Rising Republican star Bobby Jindal signed legislation allowing judges to force convicted rapists to undergo chemical castration
“Jindal, the country’s youngest governor and the first with Indian roots, is often cited as a potential Vice Presidental nominee for McCain. He has spoken out in defense of intelligent design and written about his participation in an exorcism.”
http://tinyurl.com/4jsp6a
This guy sounds like a big enough nut job to be a McCain pick for VP! Wow! Sure is easy to criticize when they offer up such ammunition!
Linda,
“beating my wife” is a classic term for the loaded question fallacy.
He is not a doofus. Many people use the term to describe the loaded question fallacy.
It is fairly obvious that was all McCain was saying there.
At least it is obvious to anyone who doesn’t have an agenda to try to make McCain look bad.
“lindainks55″ noted –
Said McCain, chuckling, “And I stopped beating my wife just a couple of weeks ago.”
Just another senior moment from John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term).
About a month ago, McSame compared Barack Obama with William Jennings Bryan! A guy who last ran for President exactly 100 years ago this year! Yeah, that’s a relevant political touchstone for ya!
A couple of weeks ago, McBush tried out his “Obama is running for Jimmy Carter’s third term.” Jimmy Carter left office 3-point-8 decades ago! At least he moved up to a 20th Century political reference.
Now he’s doing Jackie Gleason, making comedy hay with wife-beating jokes. Everyone from the Baby Boomer generation is mourning the passing of George Carlin and McC*nt is doing Henny Youngman. How long before he starts working blue with pre-Sanford Redd Foxx?
A President McSame would commision a Lawrence Welk version of “Hail to the Chief,” with bubbly flutes and, hopefully, to a polka beat. (Y’know, what the kids like.)
Then again, this is the pilot of The Straight Talk Express. Maybe he really DID stop beating the trollop c*nt “a couple of weeks ago.” And not a moment too soon.
I hope “Chas” sees this. I’m gonna share it despite my fear that the twice-born among us — such as “Nathaniel,” “HLP,” “okobserver,” “MaxGrobnik,” “Regular et al” — will likely damn my heathen soul to eternal damnation.
It’s a prayer I shared with the friends and loves of my late brother-in-law at this afternoon’s memorial service. It was written for the occasion by William Nance.
Great Creator.
As the great eagle soars into the heavens, please let him accompany those
souls who have most recently left us. See them safely to the beyond and
guide them swiftly and truly.
For those who have departed this world
May the Creator accept their spirits into his realm
May the grandfathers and grandmothers be there to welcome them
May they walk in beauty once again.
For those who have left us
May their songs be sung for those who have remained behind
May their stories be remembered and proudly told by their families
May they be there to greet us when we arrive.
For those who still walk among the living
May their minds be stilled and their hearts content
May they dwell in love and comfort in their days
May they have a warm place by the fire and a full bowl
For those who give of themselves to others
May they find support when they stumble
May they find the strength to carry on
May they find peace in their hearts
For the children and those who come after
May they become kind in their ways
May they remember those who have gone before
May they have the courage to live honorable lives
Oh, Great Creator, we humbly ask that you look upon us with pity and help us
to bear our burdens.
We hurt.
Please send a ray of light to help us see in our hour of darkness.
Please heal our spirits and make us strong so we can complete our tasks.
Help us to see the beauty that surrounds us.
Please give us a sweet taste and not let us become bitter.
We ask this for the people who have lost their way, for the people who must
guide the way for them, for our children and for the children of our
children.
This we humbly ask..
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Helluva prayer, huh?
And, “Nathaniel,” I kinda think God heard it.
“About a month ago, McSame compared Barack Obama with William Jennings Bryan! A guy who last ran for President exactly 100 years ago this year!”
McCain used that reference because he knew William Jennings Bryan personally.
RFL–
I hesitate to even start this head-bang-wall discussion, but microbiologists use citrate medium as a way to distinguish between unknown bacteria. E. coli is know to not use citrate. It’s a big deal. Kind of on par with humans being able to breathe underwater, I think.
“Somehow, Bacteria B can metabolize citrate while Bacteria A could not. However, Bacteria B is still Bacteria not much different then Bacteria A is bacteria. Evolution? or adaptive change within genotype?”
The problem is, you people have have no distinction between “adaptative change within a genotype” and “evolution”, except for “it’s not evolution unless I say it is”. “Not much different”? Who gets to decide that? It’s so arbitrary. This research has demonstrated evidence that complex biochemical pathways can evolve–it’s more refuting the likes of Behe who accept an old earth and evolution between species, but have problems with complexity at the cellular level. There are a few posters on here who have that belief, and this was more for them.
People like you, though, the 6,000 year old earth literal genesis creation are kind of beyond help or discussion (shrug). It’s ok, because your type are pretty much irrelevant to the field of science–I’d only be worried if you were a teacher or something.
Note the interesting freak-out by the other side
http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Lenski_dialog
Wait, I take it back. I think this kind of change in humans would be on par with “Humans suddenly able to breathe without oxygen”–anaerobic respiration. The water example isn’t enough, because there is still oxygen and nitrogen in water.
That’s how big of a change it is.
Wahine_Tara,
“People like you, though, the 6,000 year old earth literal genesis creation are kind of beyond help or discussion (shrug). It’s ok, because your type are pretty much irrelevant to the field of science–I’d only be worried if you were a teacher or something.”
Kind of a bit insulting don’t you think?
I have many friends in the field of science who are Doctors, Teachers, Chemists, and even a Neural Surgeon who all believe in creation.
What is “irrelevant” in science is having to accept that all life evolved from some life form millions of years ago that you assumed to have come about but can’t explain how or show any proof for.
I’m sorry for your loss, MonkeyHawk. That was a beautiful prayer. I hope it gave the comfort it intended.
Do you suppose McCain thinks he is “cool,” or hopes someone will find him such? I’ll openly admit I’m too old to know what the term that surely has replaced “cool” is! But I’m a decade younger than this old geezer who is trying to make a point with inappropriate comments!
Of course, he did call his wife both a c**t and a trollop in public! So we already know he isn’t presidential timber!
And did you read about his stellar potential VP choice? This guy would help doofus HOW?
MonkeyHawk,
Very nice prayer, beautiful.
Too bad you felt you needed to share it while making an insinuation about myself and others here.
“lindainks55″ says 00
I’m sorry for your loss, MonkeyHawk. That was a beautiful prayer. I hope it gave the comfort it intended.
Thanks.
It did.
And it was an amazing combination of people who came together to mourn him… from work, from college, from his Naval career, former golf partners and foes, his neighbors, the hospice workers, his family and sometimes-crazy in-laws (which includes me), the people at his final residence who didn’t just care for him, they cared about him, clergy, lay-people, a former CEO of a Fortune 100 company… and me. And this prayer a man wrote when he got the news of by brother-in-law’s passing, touched them all.
Turned out to be a one of those wonderful celebrations of life we all want funerals to be.
“Nathaniel” would’ve hated it.
MonkeyHawk,
Again, why do you choose to turn such a nice event into an opportunity for you to further insinuate things about me?
Nathan,
I apologize if that’s insulting, but if all of your attempts at demonstrating evidence of something is blatantly ignored, you’d throw you hands up and figure it’s a lost cause, too.
How many times have we done this?
What is a kind
What is an adaptation
How different does something have to be to be called “evolution”
How many years since the Flood, and did each “kind” whatever that is evolve into all the species here today?
If so, have mutation rates slowed down since then? Why? What’s your evidence for this?
What about plants? Are all plants one kind? Did a sequoia and a unicellular green alga have a common ancestor? If so, how is adaption to this degree possible in the small amount of time proposed?
Ad nauseum….Eveything I have ever posted in support of evolution, you have simply just pointed out it COULD be explained by creation (but only if God was deceitful and made the evidence look like something it’s not). You’ve never given me any evidence of your own. I’ve posted so much, on adaptive radiation in Hawaii, the silversword alliance, E.coli, Vitamin C gene, molecular phylogeny and much more. You have not brought anything to the table, except insistence that “there is no evidence for evolution” and that “we weren’t there, so we don’t know that happened”. Hmmmm….by that logic we should never take anyone to trial for murder, ever, because even if all of the evidence points to conviction, “we weren’t there”.
So yes, I do think your kind is a lost cause. I’m sure you have many intellects and talents in other fields, but definitely not science. To believe in a young earth, literal 6 day creation requires active cognitive dissonance and a shaky faith in God–as if He couldn’t produce all of this by evolution.
“I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.” –Galileo Galilei
Wahine_Tara,
First of all, I don’t expect you to believe in a Young Earth Creation.
I don’t want that taught without solid evidence.
Most of my belief in a Young Earth is purely based on faith, some evidence.
The problem with these discussions on Evolution is that you expect me to prove what I believe to refute Evolution.
In any logical discussion or even scientific one, Evolutions truth and validity is not based on the fact of something else being able to take it’s place being true or not.
It is not an either/or between Evolution and Young Earth Creation where if Creation is not true Evolution must be.
Evolutionary theory is either true on it’s own merits or it is not. Creation should have nothing to do with it beyond any evidence for creation that would contradict Evolution.
Nathaniel believes that an agricultural economist, who LIES about what 100’s of climate scientists believe, is a credible climate science source. LOL!!!
“Nathaniel” comes forward with –
MonkeyHawk,
Very nice prayer, beautiful.
Thanks.
And I really mean that.
I may have been unfair to expect that you would have objected that it spoke to our “Dear Creator” and didn’t say, “Father-Jesus-Lord-God” at every opportunity.
But if you reread William Nance’s prayer, it was obviously given to a “God, however you perceive him,” that “Chas” ususally signs off with; with a “God” or “Creator” or “Christ” or Central Force of Existence none of us can possibly understand, much less define.
I think it’s a blessing to me, and especially to you, that you realize William Nance’s prayer constitutes a “beautiful” spiritual moment.
Even if Jesus wasn’t mentioned.
I have no problem with your personal spiritual journey, “Nathaniel.” Go for it! If it works for you, solid.
But when you have taken your personal relationship with the Christ to the lengths you have in this forum — “You are not a Christian.” — you step over the line. And I will, rhetorically anyway, move to push you back.
That’s all I’m sayin’.
“Too bad you felt you needed to share it while making an insinuation about myself and others here.”
I can only deal with the evidence presented, “Nathaniel.”
I expected the worst from you.
And I’ve gotta give you credit for understanding the deep spiritual, universal beauty of William Nance’s prayer.
It tells me that, even though your personal spiritual walk with the Almighty involves a deep and personal commitment to Jesus of Nazareth, you might recognize there might — just MIGHT — realize there might be other pathways toward Glory.
I’m not sure you realize what you’ve given me, “Nathaniel.”
But I appreciate it and respect it and embrace it.
God — whatever or whomever or however you conceive “God” to be — bless you, “Nathaniel.”
We’ll all get there.
I’m pretty sure that’s how “God” wants it.
I know that recently the scientific community has been trying to blurr the line between what used to be called Micro and Macro Evolution in an attempt to prove Evolution.
It doesn’t work here.
When I am talking about Evolutionary theory, I am talking about Darwinian Evolutionary theory. The 99% of the theory which is what can’t be proven, observed, or tested as “theories” are supposed to be.
Everything that we have ever discussed is what is called Micro-evolution. Of course it happens.
The problem is that Evolutionary theory is about Macro Evolution to.
The part where some lifeform which just came into existence, we don’t know how but assume so, then spawned an entire Evolutionary tree over the past millions of years.
That is the part of Evolutionary theory with which I completely disagree with and the so called evidence of is rather lacking.
You can say that I dont have any inteelect or tallent in science all you want to.
It is nothing more than the typical insult I have come to expect from discussions with people like you.
Perhaps talking to me about Young Earth creation is a lost cause, but don’t presume to think that I don’t understand science.
Evolutionary theory is not ALL of science. There are many fields of study in science which have nothing to do with Evolutionary theory.
Yet people like you choose to mock me and say that I don’t understand science because I disagree with one theory?
By that logic, no one could ever question anything anyone does in the scientific community for fear that they would be rejecting science or mocked for not understanding science.
How absurd.
So lets keep the insults out of the discussion shall we?
If you can’t debate or discuss the topic without them, then don’t bother posting at all.
“You can say that I dont have any inteelect or tallent in science all you want to.”
Well, at least we can say that you don’t know how to spell “intellect” or “talent.”
MonkeyHawk,
Make no mistake, I believe that faith in Christ is the only way to salvation.
I also believe that having faith in Christ as the only way to salvation is the most basic fundamental truth to being a Christian.
Have I been mean to Chas? Yes. I was purposefully pestering the crap out of him. Was that right? No.
My methods for the way I treated Chas were wrong. My beliefs are still the same.
I can recognize and respect the beauty of events and prayers without them having any direct conection to Jesus Christ.
It doesn’t change the fact of what I ultimately believe about Christ though.
WS Clark,
I know how to spell both. They are called typos.
“I know how to spell both. They are called typos.”
Take a joke, dimwit, stop taking yourself so damned seriously.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh………………………
Nathaniel posted June 27, 2008 at 8:28 pm
“Perhaps talking to me about Young Earth creation is a lost cause, but don’t presume to think that I don’t understand science.”
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Okay Nathaniel… describe the scientific methodology used by the agricultural ECONOMIST, Dennis Avery, to refute AGW.
“The 99% of the theory which is what can’t be proven, observed, or tested as “theories” are supposed to be.”
So it’s that 1% that keeps on getting proven over and over again? You don’t know what you are talking about.
Dr. Richard Lenski has been doing a 20 year research study on ecoli. His experiment proves, yet again, that evolution is a scientific fact. It really irks the creationists that he routinely froze his populations of ecoli so he can resume the experiment from any point during the research to prove his point again.
https://myxo.css.msu.edu/ecoli/
Summary of the research and why creationists look like idiots:
http://www.newscientist.com/blog/shortsharpscience/2008/06/creationist-critics-get-their.html?DCMP=ILC-rhts&nsref=ts11_bar
Evolution before our very eyes, just the sort of thing which you say is a fairy tale. On the other hand the evidence for creationism remains at zero. Kinda a one sided debate.
Why does the city not Buy Joy Land and let Warren build a place their ?They can even have the Cow Town band doing shows.They can hire all the illegal’s that they wont do anything about and let them work for nothing or next to it.On cinco de mayo day they can re-enact the way they got over here by swimming across the canal. Then we can turn the go cart track into a truck only track and they can drive the course again and again playing carnival music. at half time they can have a judging on who has the best mud flaps and hood orniments.They can also en-act another way to get to the states by cramming 10,000 of them on the train.The paople that gamble can pay to go to the chicken fights.Come on Wichita get with it… Do something about these illegal’s or we will election day !!!
And do not eat organic foods.
Nathaniel’s science(sic) source, Dennis Avery, says that they’re dangerous.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Dennis_Avery
Re climate,
‘Avery and Singer: Unstoppable hot air’
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/11/avery-and-singer-unstoppable-hot-air/
Maggotpunk,
Wow! Watching Ecoli for 30,000 gernarations proves that there was some first life form that all life evolved from!
OR
not.
“Wow! Watching Ecoli for 30,000 gernarations proves that there was some first life form that all life evolved from!”
Wow, you don’t even know what the theory of evolution is. Absolutely amazing. It’s like me saying quantum mechanics is wrong without knowing anything about it. I bet you just revel in your ignorance. Is the subject of evolution brand new to you? Is your brain so small that bits on knowledge just leak out on a constant basis?
The theory of magnetism doesn’t explain why airplanes fly therefore it must be wrong. That’s the same sort of stupid reasoning you are using Nathan. Damn boy, get an education.
Maggotpunk,
You can’t expect anything rational from Nathaniel on science issues.
Nathaniel believes that an agricultural ECONOMIST is a climate scientist.
“It tells me that, even though your personal spiritual walk with the Almighty involves a deep and personal commitment to Jesus of Nazareth, you might recognize there might — just MIGHT — realize there might be other pathways toward Glory.”
Monkey if the football rules are that you have to run down the field, all 100 yards, not step out of bounds, then and ony then will you be awarded 6 points. You can’t run behind the bleachers because they are no tacklers there, you can’t have someone on a golf cart give you a ride, you can’t take time out for a rest break in the bleachers, you can’t stop to get a cotton candy, because you need a sugar surge - eventhough you eventually reach the end zone you don’t get the 6 points.
Well Christians believe the we are taught that ‘the only way to the Father is thru the Son’. John 3:16 says that ‘who soever believes on Him will have everlasting life’. You can believe that there are many roads to glory but neither you nor Chas can decide that there are many paths to glory for all people.
Thats the way is is for true Christians. Now you can accept or deny what I just said but you can’t in all honesty expect a Christian to agree with you on your views of a Christian faith you don’t share.
Monkey Hawk —
Your funerary prayer is greatly significant in the life of the one who has passed, and is extremely comforting to those left behind. And it also speaks to those not yet among us.
It is a prayer that truly embraces the entire cycle of life. I have saved it in my computer files for funeral services, and no doubt will be used at some future point in my own ministry.
Thanks SO much for that contribution… And I am sure that those closest to you brother-in-law found great comfort in the words you have expressed.
Blessings on the memory of your brother-in-law.
So mote it be!
“You can’t expect anything rational from Nathaniel on science issues.
Nathaniel believes that an agricultural ECONOMIST is a climate scientist.”
It just amazes me that the standards for education in Kansas are so lax that they’d graduate Nathan without knowing basic concepts in science. I guess you don’t need an education if you are going to be a grunt.
Grover Norquist: Obama “John Kerry With A Tan”
“…as part of his negative critique of Obama’s liberal stances on economic issues and other matters, he termed the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee “John Kerry with a tan.”
http://tinyurl.com/5dhllf
Another McCain supporter has spoken!
TARA — Something for your interest >>>> This is most interesting reading…
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-science/20080513/SCIENCE-SPACE-MARS-DC/
Addington: Vice President Isn’t Part Of Executive Branch, ‘Attached’ To Legislative
“In a protracted battle with the National Archives last year, Vice President Dick Cheney sought to avoid submitting records to the archives by claiming that the office of the vice president is not part of the executive branch. During today’s House Judiciary Committee hearing, Cheney’s chief of staff David Addington reasserted that position, declaring the vice president’s office to be a separate entity that “attached” to the legislative branch.”
http://tinyurl.com/5e8rgm
Read the transcript of his testimony! You really can’t make this stuff up!
This is nothing new. Bacteria constantly mutate and develop resistance to drugs.
Micro-evolution. The bacteria is still a bacteria is it not?
A wolf through many generations of directed breeding became a Chihuahua. Same thing. Still dogs.
“This is nothing new. Bacteria constantly mutate and develop resistance to drugs.
Micro-evolution. The bacteria is still a bacteria is it not?”
Thanks for affirming you know nothing about the subject. Is the inability to learn a quality all creationists must have in order to be a part of the scientific illiteracy club? Next time actually read the information on the links, it may save you some embarrassment.
Outlander says —-
“A wolf through many generations of directed breeding became a Chihuahua. Same thing. Still dogs.”
LINK please???
“Micro-evolution. The bacteria is still a bacteria is it not? ”
Stick around for a few billion years, it will change.
After all, it took us 4.5 billion years to get here.
I think outlander gets turned on by the nakes apes at the zoo. He can’t tell the difference between a gorilla and a human.
Obamanation and his campaign supporters and gushing fans in the media are trying to hush up news and arguments about his rabid promotion of taxpayer-funded partial-birth and live-birth abortions, now banned by federal laws he vows to overturn in order to raise abortion mill profits – his favorite cash cow. They claim voters want to hear instead how Obamanation can fix $4 gas prices by raising taxes, since abortion is a narrow issue, adversely affecting only about one third of American women and most of their family and close friends . . . and 50 million dead babies.
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A Senate appropriations subcommittee voted Tuesday to cut abstinence education funding by 25%, but President Bush may veto the bill that includes the change. The funding cut is included in a $631 billion bill that funds the departments of Labor, Health and Human Services and Education. The cut reduces the funding to $84.8 million for fiscal year 2009. The legislation would also put $300 million in the pocket of Planned Parenthood through the federal government’s Title X family planning programs. The bill keeps the funding level the same as last year. The reason for the push against abstinence education funding is that it diverts money away from the high-failure-rate condoms and contraceptives that Planned Parenthood shoves at schoolchildren, in order to reap obscene profits from abortion and venereal disease treatments.
Because the bill exceeds the president’s proposed budget by $7.2 billion, it will most likely face a veto, although merely funding criminal, racist Planned Parenthood with a single taxpayer dollar is sufficient reason for a veto.
Meanwhile, the U.S. House has passed extended Title V abstinence education funding for another year.
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“This is horrible stuff. It promotes birth control, sexual activity (and) makes a joke of abstinence. It mocks parents and makes us out to be idiots.”
. . . parent Kerry Knott, complaining to the Batavia, IL library director, along with 60 other parents, about the library website link to Planned Parenthood’s Teenwire teen web page
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Meanwhile, 10% of the 3000 middle and high school students in the Delaware Valley School District in Milford, PA became infected with a venereal disease during the past year - including one confirmed case of HIV – and 2 dozen girls are pregnant. Most of the infections are HPV, very common amongst the promiscuous. Students as young as 12 are reported to be promiscuous. School officials sent a letter to parents, telling them – what, that your child is a public health hazard? And the CDC is stepping in to – what, quarantine the offenders? The Board of Education is, of course, dropping references to abstinence in health curricula, and instead recommending the ineffective, dangerous, painful, and expensive series of Gardasil injections, as better advice to schoolchildren.
Speaking of apes….
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Maggotpunk
Posted June 27, 2008 at 9:23 pm | Permalink
I think outlander gets turned on by the nakes apes at the zoo. He can’t tell the difference between a gorilla and a human.
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Maggie’s steel trap scientific mind on display.
Poor, outy, still confused by basic science? Perhaps it’s wise to read the study before trying to comment on it.
Apparently Outie cant provide us with any wolf >> chihuahua links LOL
http://dogs.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Dog_History
Here is a good one Chas.