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Make Sammy your VP candidate, That will solve your problems with farmers, evangelists . . . and will ensure your defeat. Damn, I didn’t want to say that, did I? Do you think McCain is watching?

“It’s problematic, but it’s something he can well overcome,” Brownback said. “You overcome it on values.”

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What values?

bomb, bomb, bomb Iran IS A VALUE?

Calling your wife a c**t in public IS A VALUE?

Being the ?man? who didn’t stick by the woman who stuck by her man IS A VALUE?

Being against bush tax cuts as a Senator and for them as a candidate IS A VALUE?

Which evangelical ?leader? is he running after for an endorsement now? Is his judgment this poor in all decisions? Will he always seek out advice from the worst and only afterward use the excuse of not knowing. So being a poor judge of character and a dupe makes him presidential material?

This man has no values. He runs from each stated and deeply held conviction the second someone needs him to embrace a different deeply held conviction. He is morally bankrupt, intellectually weak and tries to make being a prisoner of war a qualification for the presidency — all the while advocating torture of prisoners.

Focus the cameras on him, never turn off the microphones. America needs to hear from him and see him often! He will be his own undoing.

The source I’ve seen has been posted and reposted. You choose to hold it unreliable. I’ll go with where there’s smoke there is fire on this one.

Can you prove it isn’t accurate? Until you can, there are two sides to the story and we’re on different sides with no “definitive / absolute” proof for either.

I know kfg. If it is posted enough times, it is the truth. nk you.

Did you know that Obama’s pet name for his wife is “M-bitch”. Yup. I got it from three unnamed guys who heard it, but won’t go on the record. but believe me, it’s true.

“McCain champion Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., said McCain can attract rural voters by other means. “It’s problematic, but it’s something he can well overcome,” Brownback said. “You overcome it on values.”

Sounds to me like sammy reads Thomas Frank. That quote just proves how correct Frank is in “What’s the Matter With Kansas?”.

Sammy thinks farmers will vote against their own economic interests based on antiabortion, antigay marriage, antianything that doesnt come out of their preacher’s um, mouth.

And sadly, he’s correct. But then, some of us have said Thomas Frank was correct all along.

I just didnt know sammy agreed too!

outlander, I think other proofs of McCain’s lack of character are evident. I easily see a pattern of abusive behavior in him. I’ve never seen an indication he truly cares about anyone or anything as much as his own ambitions for power.

Plus, I see no experience or skills that would qualify him for president. I know many make comparisons of him being the one with experience and Obama the one without. I see neither of them high on the experience end but have more trust that Obama is intelligent enough to seek out advice and make careful decisions. McCain seems too much like bush in his arrogancy and too much the warmonger to make any careful or measured decisions. Obama has shown much greater diplomatic skills. I find that very valuable and a presidential trait I admire!

Maybe when McCain or any of his supporters show something positive about him and his proposed policies there will be something to consider.

He plans to continue the war in Iraq until its won but can’t tell us what will be won, when we’ll know its won… Same ole, same ole. I vote against that!

He plans to continue the bush economic plan. I vote against that!

What else? What are voters considering? What are his plans and policies?

STELLAR post linda!

I’m gonna shake your hand in person.

(Don’t worry that it is lost on outlander. He’s not of this world. He told me so in person.)

“I’m gonna shake your hand in person.”

Well, I’m a hugger! So after you shake my hand get ready for a hug! ;-)

Well, don’t forget he is in favor of an $.18 price break in gas to help us all out for a few months…I know that will make a HUGE difference in my life..never mind that the government will lose a bunch in gas tax revenue…these are the sort of bandaid solutions we need to totally turn around the downhill economic slide we’re all on.
Just goes to show how out of touch he really is with the working class.

You can save as much as 15 cents a gallon with a plus card at Dillons.

Linda — Re: Outlander…

DNFTT — The way he phrased his question… As if he has been hibernating all this time… is a dead give-away of Trollish behavior… and shoot, it isnt even Noon yet!!

You gotta fill in the blanks for the ** since WEBlog wont let the word be posted…

Use a different browser window… also add http://www. in front of the URL…

I dont believe Obama is a Muslim either… Doesnt stop the Right Wing-nuts from posting that nearly every day…

McCain’s abusive language toward his wife has been highly posted, and reported… It’s not like somebody said the sky is chartrues or something…

How on Earth (Swiftboat) can anyone think (Obama is a secret Muslim) that repeating a lie (Won’t hold hand over heart) works in this (Attended a Madrassa) and (Hussein Hussein Hussein) modern internet era?

Dont know DavidB… But its all over talk radio every day, ad nauseum!! Hannity loves that Crap!! LOL

How difficult would it have been for McCain to have stated “Let me put that cruel unfounded rumor to rest, I did not call my wife that name at a public forum”, instead of going around the horns and saying ‘This is a family forum and we don’t talk like that’ or some such b.s.

I think duh Libs are trying to hold McCain to a much higher standard than they do for themselves. The tirade of words here and I imagine even more in real life by duh Libs probably makes McCain’s supposed comment pale in comparison.

Hypocrites

“to a much higher standard than they do for themselves.”

We’re not running for president.

Chas
Posted June 22, 2008 at 11:05 am | Permalink
I dont believe Obama is a Muslim either… Doesnt stop the Right Wing-nuts from posting that nearly every day…

McCain’s abusive language toward his wife has been highly posted, and reported… It’s not like somebody said the sky is chartrues or something…
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I have heard you and Political Mama say this several times. I have never heard it on tv or radio and I haven’t seen it in print except here. Can you post a link that show this is true. I really want to see the proof. I would be disappointed if it is true. That link you gave upthread is bogus as you probably knew.
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WSClark
Posted June 22, 2008 at 12:18 pm | Permalink
“How many women claimed CLinton raped them?”

One. Juanita Broaddrick, and she couldn’t even remember what MONTH it supposedly was. Her (then) husband could not remember her having facial cuts or bruises as she claim Clinton inflicted. She was also having an affair with another man at the time of the supposed “incident.”

Zip credibility
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What hat did you pull this one out of. I remember reading a little about this when it was first reported. Don’t ever remember seeing what you are saying. Can you post your source for this statement?

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You can sure tell which Senator isn’t up for re-election, he can speak frankly (Thomas Frank ly), careful Brownback, your contempt for your hay seed constituents is showing! Must think they are too dumb to understand what he said, and sadly, he may well be right!

Thanks Linda — OKOB is just doing her/his usual TROLLING routine, by asking for links when links have been provided… TWO of them even… from TWO different web sites… one web site from a very conservative web site… Sorry OKOB… try phishing somewhere else… Otherwise, provide a link of your own… I have heard this story MANY times, and it is NOT new to the Blog either… Sorry, you dont read so good!! LOL

multi-nic’d ‘Regular’,

And where are your Justice Dept. and Congressional links supporting your (invalid) claim that the Sierra Club “screwed” the New Orleans levees?

Linda I have spent considerable time trying to find anything concrete on this accusation and found nothing. Pardon me for not believing a non supported at attempting to blemish the reputation of a presidential candidate. I would require the same from someone trying to tarnish Obama.

Chas you are a simpleton and a buffoon. Please do not respond to or about my post and then you and I won’t have to visit about accuracy of posts.

In other words instead of talking about a poster show the proof of what you post. It’s that simple.

Thanks regular. I thought I had dropped int a time warp with this cosmos. Your explanation makes lots more sense.

This man/woman needs help.

okobserver,

Call cosmos Sammy, (Sammy Wilson.) That’s what he had on his blog sign in awhile back.

Whether it is his name or not, it appears to annoy him when used.

So Sammy the “cosmos freak show” puts on his daily display of Goregasms and ejaculates his broken record spew in all topics regardless whether it’s on topic or not.

Some one take Sammy the cosmos out and tie him to a tree far away, he’s worse than a yapping and howling dog late at night.

Why does McCain not respond to the accusation? Why does he not put it down once and for all, go on record against it? I’ve heard Obama address untrue rumors about himself. Even tho there are those who still believe he is a Muslim he addressed the rumor, he said he isn’t. Why won’t McCain address this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOl4iT46Eec&feature=related

Phantom,

It’s kinda fun watching the multi-nic’d ‘Regular’ go into rabid, wild arm flailing, when I ask him to produce his Justice Dept. and Congressional links, that do NOT exist.

Lie, and flail your arms wildly, multi-nic’d ‘Regular’. LOL!

http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/06/mccain-needs-to-make-nice-to-farmers/#comment-372522

Okay lindainks,

The other day someone said your husband called you a “two bit whore and a c##t” in public.

Prove it’s not true.

“I will continue to believe McCain did call his wife a c**t and a trollop in public. My opinion is that he should address it in an attempt to squelch the questions and the rumors if that’s what they are.”

I don;t know whether or not to believe it. One source willing to go public doesn;t make it so. However, I agree, he should address it. Period. If it continues to not address, whether or not it is really true will not matter, what will matter is that people believe it to be true.

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lindainks55
Posted June 22, 2008 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

He didn’t. If he knew he had been accused of such he would say he didn’t too. And you could still believe he did, but he would have addressed the accusation.
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So you are saying your husband lies then.

It was from supposed extremely reliable sources that heard your husband say these things.

LJ: I disagree. Should every made up rumor from anonymous sources be addressed? I’m sure the libs, who have no reluctance to make stuff up (the end justifies the means) would have no problem making that a full time job for him.

But what bothers me more is the posters here who will state it as if it’s a fact when they have NO ONE who will even admit to hearing it.

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lindainks55
Posted June 22, 2008 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

Guess I’m not smart enough to follow your logic of my husband addressing an accusation making him a liar. Sorry. I thought all I said was if accused he would address it and deny it. Then you would have heard from both his accuser and himself and still have the right to your opinion. He however wouldn’t have left the accusation unaddressed.
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Of course your husband would lie about making those comments.

It still doesn’t mean he didn’t make them just because he addressed it by stating a lie.

So as long as your husband lies addressing the issue, then everything is okay, right?

Jeez, the Republicans are crying about attacks!?!?!

The Party of Karl Rove is whining about false accusations, innuendos and outright lies?

*when we READ the same words

These accusations are not ALL coming from anonymous sources. Many are willing to be identified. If someone wrote such in a book I would be considering libel charges if I had the truth on my side!
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“The Real McCain by Cliff Schecter, which will arrive in bookstores next month, reports an angry exchange between McCain and his wife that happened in full view of aides and reporters during a 1992 campaign stop. An advance copy of the book was obtained by RAW STORY.”

Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, also let me in on another incident involving McCain’s intemperateness. In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett. At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain’s hair and said, ‘You’re getting a little thin up there.’ McCain’s face reddened, and he responded, ‘At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c unt.’ McCain’s excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.

“The man who was known as ‘McNasty’ in high school has erupted in foul-languaged tirades at political foes and congressional colleagues more-or-less throughout his career, and his quickness to anger has been an issue on the presidential campaign trail as evidence of his fury has surfaced.

“In the book [Schecter] outlines several other examples of McCain loosing his cool and raises the question of how that would affect a McCain presidency.”

Clark — It has to do with FOUR letters in the middle of Lee’s last name that the censor spotted… :-)

“OKOB barely believes in the full moon!!”

However, I reserve the right to be wrong on that statement… perhaps he/she does NOT believe in the full moon!! Who knows with some of these posters now days…

“FDR was know for his profane outbursts.”

Dang, I didn’t know that he called Eleanor a c@nt!

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lindainks55
Posted June 22, 2008 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

Different times, Regular. Nowadays we hear much about family values and other such moralistic attributes (abortion, same-sex marriage…). These words are usually used to hint that evil liberals have no values (family or otherwise) and conservatives are the party of God. Ever since the Contract With America and trying to use Clinton’s lack of morals politically the Republican Party has attempted to hold themselves to a higher standard. Tried to inject government where it never was and in my opinion doesn’t belong.

We know that we’re all people regardless of our political persuasions — warts and all, faults a plenty, and there is no party more moral than another. We probably do know that in reality. But leaders of the Republican Party have tried to make the party stand for something more wholesome than human. There are despots in every party, every occupation, every walk of life. There are also honorable, moral, wise people from every party, occupation, walk of life.

Today we snarl the titles that used to both be honorable and use them as attacks against each other. Somebody must be a loser. partisanship holds us all hostage.

The words liberal and conservative have even taken on new meanings since the days of FDR. Not long ago conservative stood for things I firmly believe in — fiscal responsibility and as little government intervention as possible. Social issues weren’t even part of the definition. Today the neocons and the social conservatives are a more vocal part of the party. Are they a stronger part? I think we’re getting closer to finding out. Seems to me the old time conservatives are waiting for the new ones to hang themselves with all that rope they’ve been given before they move back in and restore sanity. Anyway that’s another of my hopes for our country’s tomorrow.
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Actually, both of my grandparents were Democrats and Conservative. On my father’s side, it was the first break from Republican since the Civil War. I think because they were both farmers, but unsure for the reason, didn’t really care at the time.

It’s the Liberal mantra that is the downfall of the Democratic Party, they need to distance themselves from it entirely.

If Liberals want to be Liberals, join the Independent party. The modern day Progressive Liberals has left permanent stains on a once moderate party of Democrats.

From “The Guardian” –

http://tinyurl.com/3l4gkc

“[McCain's] public outbursts, and many other private ones, have concerned people even in his own party. Former New Hampshire Republican Senator Robert Smith publicly voiced his concerns, once saying McCain’s temper ‘ … would place this country at risk in international affairs, and the world perhaps in danger’. That sentiment was echoed by Mississippi Republican Senator Thad Cochran, who told a Boston newspaper: ‘The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me.’

Like the time he threatened to beat up 90-something-year old Strom Thurmond! The guy whose classmates called him “McNasty.”

Calling his trollop wife a c*nt seems to have been one of his more endearing moments.

Back on the subject, I can’t get too worked up about McCain’s stand on farm bills. In fact, I tend to agree with his “corporate welfare” description.

There is, however, much more to the farm bill. FYI:

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/in_the_farm_bill_how_much_money.html

Sort of puts the level of discourse between political opponents around here to shame:

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“Dr. Lukacs told me during a recent interview that in his opinion Winston Churchill’s best oration from those days was the eulogy he shared about Neville Chamberlain, who succumbed to complications due to stomach cancer on November 10, 1940, just six months after leaving office:

“It fell to Neville Chamberlain in one of the supreme crises of the world to be contradicted by events, to be disappointed in his hopes, and to be deceived and cheated by a wicked man. But what were these hopes in which he was disappointed? What were these wishes in which he was frustrated? What was that faith that was abused? They were surely among the most noble and benevolent instincts of the human heart–the love of peace, the toil for peace, the strife for peace, the pursuit of peace, even at great peril, and certainly to the utter disdain of popularity or clamour. Whatever else history may or may not say about these terrible, tremendous years, we can be sure that Neville Chamberlain acted with perfect sincerity according to his lights and strove to the utmost of his capacity and authority, which were powerful, to save the world from the awful, devastating struggle in which we are now engaged. This alone will stand him in good stead as far as what is called the verdict of history is concerned.”

Frankly, Winston Churchill was not the one-dimensional warmonger some in his day thought him to be, and that some even today persist in insisting he was. He was an inspiring leader at the right time and in the right place.

It’s vital that he not be forgotten, nor demonized through the writing of specious history. A new generation, one easily influenced by fleeting images and drawn to the simplistic rhetoric of political gurus, needs to get a sense of this great man and glean from his courage and character.

John Lukacs concludes his narrative with an excerpt from a speech made by Mr. Churchill in 1955, when his active political life was drawing to a close at the age of eighty:

“Which way shall we turn to save our lives and the future of the world? It does not matter so much for old people; they are going soon anyway; but I find it poignant to look at youth and wonder what would lie before them if God wearied of mankind.”

Something to think about before a torch is passed to yet another new generation of Americans.

For those interested in joining the Sierra Club or reading about this great environmental organization’s activities (or just to PO Reguliar and his buddy Bushlicker) go to

sierraclub.org

Cleveland, OH — Today the Sierra Club and the United Steelworkers jointly endorsed Barack Obama for President. We believe he is the leader who can put America on the path to a clean energy economy that creates and keeps millions of jobs, spurs innovation and opportunity, and makes this a more secure nation.

I hope McCain gets the chance to do the town hall thing with Obama…that should cinch it up for Obama for sure.
McCain always comes across as smug and arrogant, the man can’t help it.

HEALTH CARE ROUND-TABLE DISCUSSION TO BE HELD IN WICHITA
WICHITA, KS: Affordable health care tops the list as America’s biggest domestic worry these days. To address this concern, Democracy for America (Wichita) has assembled a panel of three speakers to offer concrete suggestions for reducing medical costs while at the same time improving health care.

• Walt Chappell, Ph.D. and candidate for State School Board, “How to Reduce the Cost of Health Care”
• Ron Hunninghake, M.D. from The Bright Spot for Health, “Nutritional Supplements and Health Maintenance”
• Jane Byrnes, R.D., Distinguished Kansas Dietician and Personal Trainer, “Wellness, Much Cheaper than Sickness”

This program is free and open to the public at The Wichita Central Library, 223 South Main from 7 to 8:30 pm on Tuesday, June 24 and Rockwell Library, 5939 East 9th from 7 to 8:30 pm on Thursday, June 26.

When McCain brings up his ‘war hero’ status, Obama needs to ask him if he truly did receive preferential treatment as a pow, as alleged by his captor. McCain would probably attack him physically.
As a viet vet, I recall our warrant officers telling us that if we crashed, and the officers didn’t survive to exchange uniforms with them as it would be to our benefit to be perceived as higher value pow’s.
So I’m relatively sure McCain did receive better treatment that the majority.