John McCain believes that President Bush’s program of wiretapping without warrants was lawful, despite a 1978 federal statute that required court oversight of surveillance, one of his top advisers said. But that’s not what McCain said just six months ago, the New York Times reported. McCain told the Boston Globe that “presidents have the obligation to obey and enforce laws that are passed by Congress and signed into law by the president, no matter what the situation is.†And when asked specifically whether a statute trumped a president’s powers as commander in chief when it came to a surveillance law, McCain said, “I don’t think the president has the right to disobey any law.â€
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Yup, this man is the perfect choice to continue the Bush Legacy. Just a little more dishonesty.
McCain was recently accusing of Obama of flip-flopping on Israel. McCain is, however, a master of flip-flopping.
I had a nightmare last night that McCain became president and he was trying to control the lives of Americans like the Government was in George Orwel’s 1984.
I doubt if McCain “flip-flopped”. At his advanced age, I suspect he just forgot what he said.
Do we really want a fossil for president? We need to carefully watch to see who the VP nomination is.
Though it would not surprise me, as I point out John McCain has surrounded himself with the same ideologs as Bush did. This country was in such a rush to draw blood that no one has actually considered the point. And after the fact it is a shared blame so no one is in a rush to share the blame of the answer.
This country is not in a declared war, though our actions were acts of war. In the claim of the powers granted to a war time President, there has to be a declared war. Thus the domestic spying was illegal as done under the authorization of President Bush. He did not have the authority to authorize it.
It has been a catch 22 for the SCOTUS in this, they have not been willing to question the claim of national security of the executive branch. But without the ability to have open examination of the facts they can not determine the actual establishing of Bush’s status as to whether he is a war time President or not.
The claim is made to counter that “well we are at war whether is was declared or not! “.
The authorization of the use of force is not a declaration of war under the constitution.
We can pretend as much as we want.
I totally agree with you on this one writerdog.
…….better be careful with this type of “treasonous thought” though, boxtop might start a dossier on you as well to share with your employeer!
Dub Dog brings up an excellent point – one that urgently needs to be addressed. Congress made a grave mistake in trusting Bush to use the Authorization in a responsible manner. Had the Inspectors been allowed to finish their jobs, rather than being forced to leave Iraq on the eve of war, we would not be in this position.
The lesson learned is that we cannot afford to grant any president an open ended authorization to age war.
The new Congress, with Democrats controlling both Houses as well as the presidency, needs to eliminate this flaw. The last time Congress formally declared war was in December 1941. Since then, we have fought three major wars along with numerous minor excursions. That was not the intent of the Founding Fathers who had envisioned the war powers being in the hands of Congress. What they had not envisioned was Congress abdicating their responsibility.
We cannot afford to completely tie the hands of future presidents, but Congress has to live up to their mandate.
I would envision a scenario that require a formal Declaration of War by Congress within 30 (90?) days of the beginning of any conflict.
An authorization to use military force is a cop-out, a spineless lack of commitment and an evasion of responsibility.
Congress needs to do their job as was intended.
FLIP
FLOP
Well, McCain DOES claim tobe the candidate of “change”. He has definitely changed – from ’straight talk maverick’ to ‘brown-nose Bushrat’
Apophis, a dossier on me would end up a couple of blank sheets of paper.
When people want to describe Vanilla they say it is as bland as Writerdog!
McCain’s worst flip flop (and concession to Bush, in return for his support and fundraising assistance) is his support for Bush’s tax cuts for the ultra rich. His gift to billionaires costs the other 98 percent of us. We pay a rate of 30 percent on our income. Billionaires pay 15 percent. Some of the richest people, Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, e.g., say they don’t want it and don’t need it. They would prefer to see a balanced budget. We can’t afford a third term for George McCain; his tax breaks for billionaires and his Misbegotten War are too expensive. McSame is a tax-and-spend sociopath. Tax the poor and spend it on war.
I think his worst flip-flop was on torture. After being critical of the Bush Admin and AG Gonzales on this issue, he ended up voting against the bill, and applauding Bush’s veto. What a poor excuse for “straight-talk” or “reform”.
Another week another McCain flip flop.
The thing that strikes me about McCain is that he seems to suffer from ‘Stockholm Syndrome’. This is NOT from his time as a POW in VietNam; he does not show unreasonable sympathy for or identity with them. Rather, it seems to stem from 2000 when he was savaged by the BushRats. In many ways his political future was held hostage by them and by the Wacko Right – just those people he once referred to as agents of intolerance. For some reason he has totally capitulated with them and morphed into one of them.
Back in early 2000 I found McCain’s candidacy to be very promising – a maverick Republican in a time of popular fatigue with the partisanship that gripped Washington. Sadly; he is now in their grip and has become one of them.
I think mcsame has learned his lesson on being a “maverick” and the value of “straight talk”.
It got him “south carolinaed” in 2000.
Staying in line and bowing to bushco got him the repuke nomination.
Pavlov anyone?
Maverick Republican McCain voted with the Bush administration 95% of the time.
“War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.”
“War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength; davidb is relevant.”
Staying in line and bowing to bushco got him the repuke nomination.
That fits exactly with my theory aka conspiracy theory. McCain didn’t get the nomination in 2000 and was uber-slimed in the process. A promise of the party nod in 2008 was a temptation John couldn’t refuse. He’s played his part well and, if elected in November, will continue to do so.
McCain is not loved by many of us exactly because he did NOT stay in line. He was off the reservation way too much. He still is.
The good thing about that now is he will pull in some right leaning dems and “independents”.
John McCain has flip flopped so many times, he is beginning to look like a pair of my favorite flip flops, ragged and dirty.
Those right leaning dems and independents may have a problem with McCain willing to keep our troops in Iraq for the next 100 years and his provoking a war with Iran. And with Republicans wanting to pay no taxes for anything, where will the billions more for the Iran war come from?
That is McCain’s problem, for so long he was seen as a maverick than suddenly he is towing many of the harder lines and the most emotional ones at that. So he is in the same boat as Obama, “just who is this guy?”. Is he a maverick trying to deceive the hard liners or a converted hardliner? The two big issue in which he stands are the deal killers for many moderates, independents and Reagan Democratic.
I said once I would support him if he would just show he had a realistic plan for Iraq. But he wishes to continue the same tactic as Bush.
Its a tactic and not a strategy as he calls it, that is unless the strategy is to be a occupying force in Iraq for the unforeseeable future!
WriterD understands the McCain dilemma. If he portrays himself as a reformer, then he rebuffs people like Fleet here. If he toes the line, then he subjects himself to the George III label. McCain still hasn’t figured out who he is, so he is going to continue to flip-flip while trying to be everything to everyone, and he is going to continue to have difficulty bringing together a winning coalition for the same reason. This inability to decide upon who he is going to be is the very antithesis of “straight-talk”.
Were you aware that John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) wrote the foreword to an edition of The Best And the Brightest? And were you aware that it said this?
“It was a shameful thing to ask men to suffer and die, to persevere through god-awful afflictions and heartache, to endure the dehumanizing experiences that are unavoidable in combat, for a cause that the country wouldn’t support over time and that our leaders so wrongly believed could be achieved at a smaller cost than our enemy was prepared to make us pay. No other national endeavor requires as much unshakable resolve as war. If the nation and the government lack that resolve, it is criminal to expect men in the field to carry it alone.”
I’d like to see some of McSame’s Media ask him about this over doughnuts on the Straight Talk Express bus.
So if he believed those words when he wrote them, he is now pandering or senile. Or both.
The thousand year war man wrote that?
Amazing!
I’m surprised that pigs don’t fly out of his ass for being such a hypocrite!
Oops, pigs CAN’T fly out his butt ’cause he’s a super duper fence sitter (from Reguliar) ’cause he can’t quite get himself to profess his faith/belief in Jesus.
Lordy lordy…the ONLY Christian in this Presidential race is Osama!
What will the reichwingers do now?
KansasNative…I’m surprise you don’t have more difficulty when you go to the bathroom. Hard to identify a spot to wipe, when you’re all ass.
You should know Reguliar cause your head is always up somebody’s ass!
How’s Linda? Is she feeling better?
The first Mrs. McCain.
(The first flip-flop?)
http://tinyurl.com/6gbzhw
Tsk tsk … some family values!
What mcsame did to his first wife much worse than Clinton’s womanizing.
He has no shame.
Haven’t we seen similar behavir on the part of others in the ‘family values’ crowd? Reagan, Limbaugh, Gingrich etc?
Our dysfunctional media, and the Republic’s “family values” candidate,
‘What will we do in Campaign 08 when the press corps helps voters “imagine?” ‘
http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh090106.html
“But in December 1999, Nancy Gibbs and John Dickerson, writing in Time, described the way their cohort was covering — and covering up for—their champion:
GIBBS/DICKERSON (12/13/99): And then there are the stories he tells — to which, if there’s a pattern, it’s to exalt other people and deflate himself.
A presidential candidate is not supposed to tell you about the rules he broke or the strippers he dated, or the time he arrived so drunk that he fell through the screen door of the young lady he was wooing.
The candor tells you more than the content, and reporters sometimes just decide to take McCain off the record because they don’t want to see him flame out and burn up a great story.
‘The Power and The Story’
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,992801-8,00.html
McCain is proving himself to be more untrustworthy every day. The man cannot keep a story straight for anything. And soon there will be TV commercials pointing out all these flip flops. Maybe even one with McCain windsurfing!
Most people that know McCain alrady know he is a liar and cannot be trusted. Not even in his personal life. His first wife would probably tell you that. McCain married her, had kids with her and stood before God and said he would love her forever. Then she had a car accident and lost one of her legs and what did McCain do? Did he remember “though good times and bad” and stand by the woman he promised to love forever? No, he went out and had an affair with the blonde bimbo he is married to now and abandoned his injured wife. So if he would flip flop on something like that, why are you surprised he would flip flop on anything else?? Barrack Obama- ONE Wife for ONE life!
Kev,
No kiddin’. Here’s what Ross Perot has to say about “Straight Talk.” And, Wingnut apologists, take note: Perot has unimpeachable credentials to speak, since he PAID for Carol McCain’s medical care while John McCain was being held prisoner.
“But Ross Perot, who paid her medical bills all those years ago, now believes that both Carol McCain and the American people have been taken in by a man who is unusually slick and cruel – even by the standards of modern politics.
‘McCain is the classic opportunist. He’s always reaching for attention and glory,’ he said.
‘After he came home, Carol walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona. And the rest is history.’”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html
Ouch. I’d say the DC media’s unshakeable belief in the “Straight Talk” myth is going to take some serious hits these next few months.
John McCain truly is Mr. Bullshit.
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