Give John McCain credit for not speaking only to friendly audiences. On Tuesday, he touted his energy plan, which includes offshore drilling, to an audience in Santa Barbara, site in 1969 of a major oil spill.
“When people are hurting, and struggling to afford gasoline, food, and other necessities, common sense requires that we draw upon America’s own vast reserves of oil and natural gas,†McCain said. Despite a few protesters, he received a polite reception in Santa Barbara, and in fact, polls show that Americans have shifted on offshore drilling; a majority now support it. (McCain is still against drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.)
McCain has also recently advocated building 45 new nuclear power plants by 2030 and awarding $300 million to the inventor of a next-generation car battery.
Obama says all of these policies are ineffective or gimmicks, but McCain is driving the energy debate with bold-sounding ideas.
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Offshore drilling and Cap and Trade. What a guy…
Give me a break! He advocated “States Rights” on drilling off their coast. Like California and Lousianna are going to vote to pollute their coast!
McCain is wrong on the Global Warming hyped up hoax.
However, I do admire McCain’s political skill on the energy issue, as of late.
For one thing, McCain’s “reward money” for new electric battery technology, is a stroke of genious.
The conspiracy kooks who say that “big oil,” or Detroit, are somehow “blocking” new technology will not be able to explain why nobody can come up with anything to “claim” this prize McCain is offering.
That, or someone actuall WILL claim the prize.
Either way, it puts that argument to rest.
Drill here, Drill NOW!
Domestic production creates jobs.
Domestic production generates huge tax revenues.
Domestic production helps our “balance of trade” in a huge way.
Domestic production will reduce prices.
Phantom
How much oil leaked out, in the Gulf of Mexico, after Hurricane Katrina?
NONE at all!
China is drilling off the coast of Cuba.
What is the difference?
“Drill here, Drill NOW!”
Yep, do exactly what OPEC wants us to do.
Drill more for a small amount, that they can countermand — instead of sharply cutting demand with higher efficiency.
OPEC conserves their oil, and continues to make high profits.
We deplete the last of our small reserves, and become more dependent on imported oil.
It’s unfortunate that our “Once-in-a-Lifetime-Leader” has no response to the energy crises except to label all efforts by his opponent to solve it as ineffective gimmicks.
Consider the off shore and Alaskan oil our SPR! Deplete it and you will have nothing except your hat in your hand as you get on your knees!
McCain is a shrewd politician. With the “Drill Off Shore Now”, “States Rights” argument, he can be For It, while He’s Agin It!
As far as the Reward for Alternative energy development, I think someone on this blog suggested something very similar a couple of months ago! Oh, that’s right, I did. Except I proposed a world wide competition and involvement.
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/energy/
When is someone going to grow some balls and ask if he called his wife a McC*unt without letting him skirt it.
Pmom have you not got the message from posters on this blog. If it happened and that is very doubtful – who cares. That is between him and his wife. Not you him and his wife.
Political_mama
Posted June 25, 2008 at 2:42 pm | Permalink
When is someone going to grow some balls and ask if he called his wife a McC*unt without letting him skirt it.
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PM, How about you grow some balls and show us proof that he said that. Don’t skirt it!
McCain is such a maverick. He champions himself as an opponent of pork but promises billions of pork barrel spending on nuclear energy. It must be another day because McCain is flip-flopping again.
“When is someone going to grow some balls and ask if he called his wife a McC*unt without letting him skirt it.”
Because the corporate media is too excited about McCain’s promise of billions of tax cuts for corporations. Heck, they even provided him with donuts before one of their ass-kiss interviews.
Maggotpunk,
You mean I’m NOT the only one who notices that?
Thanks for making my day :)
“McCain has also recently advocated building 45 new nuclear power plants by 2030…”
If that happens, I hope people like high utility bills, and/or stranded investments.
http://www.oilendgame.com/ReadTheBook.html
25: What about nuclear power?
Page 258 (PDF pg 282)
“Regardless, nuclear power948 has no prospects in market-driven energy systems, for a simple reason: new nuclear plants949 cost too much to build.
In round numbers, electricity from new light-water reactors will cost
twice as much as from new windfarms,
five to ten times as much as distributed gas-fired cogeneration or trigeneration in buildings and factories (net of the credit for their recovered heat), and
three to thirty times as much as end-use efficiency that can save most of the electricity now used.95
Any one of these three abundant and widely available competitors alone could knock nuclear power out of the market, and there are three, with more on the way (ultimately including cheap fuel cells).”
“okobserver” defends McC*nt with –
“That is between him and his wife. Not you him and his wife.
Sorry, “okobserver” (nee, “ksgrm”)–
That argument was categorically rejected by Republic Party partisans a decade ago when you guys decided an extra-marital blow-job was an impeachable offense.
The sources of the “Trollop/C*nt” episode include three people who were in the room.
Cindy McCain herself could come forward and declare it never happened. But she hasn’t. John McC*nt himself could come forth and dramatically tell us from the “Straight Talk Express” those words never passed his lips.
(Of course, if Cindy were to come forth, someone in the crowd might ask her if she told lies about embezzling money and drugs from the tax-exempt foundation she established. And if John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) were to come forward and claim he never was abusive to his wife the whole story of his first wife might come up. So all the Republic Party partisans have is to ask sophomoric questions such as yours.)
Now…
If it’s only “…between him and his wife…,”
“you have a lot of ’splainin’ to do, Lucy,” about the Lewinsky affair, because your so-called moral principles don’t seem to work out when your political advantages are in play, now do they, “okobserver?”
Monkey after McCain is in the Oval Office, which is paid for by you and me, and he calls his wife something less than complementary then I will joining you in telling him he should cool it.
Monkey there isn’t enough whitewash in the world to clean your boy Bill. He was in the highest office in the land, downstairs from his wife and daughter, with a young subordinate when the blow job occured. He then lied about it to cover up his other transgressions. He was riding dirty, as Pastor Wright said. He belongs to you and yours. You own that.
Until the McCain incident is even validated you are trying to tar and feather him. Not a good move even for a lefty.
It is good to see that McCain is at least right on the global climate change sound science (unlike freshman econ). I’m gald that he is not falling for the oil industry’s ’skeptic’ hoax.
Franklin
Posted June 25, 2008 at 2:10 pm | Permalink
China is drilling off the coast of Cuba.
What is the difference?
PROVE THAT!
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/40776.html
GOP claim about Chinese oil drilling off Cuba is untrue
Yet no one can prove that the Chinese are drilling anywhere off Cuba’s shoreline. The China-Cuba connection is “akin to urban legend,” said Sen. Mel Martinez, a Republican from Florida who opposes drilling off the coast of his state but who backs exploration in ANWR.
“China is not drilling in Cuba’s Gulf of Mexico waters, period,” said Jorge Pinon, an energy fellow with the Center for Hemispheric Policy at the University of Miami and an expert in oil exploration in the Gulf of Mexico. Martinez cited Pinon’s research when he took to the Senate floor Wednesday to set the record straight.
Well, China and India are both involved in Cuban oil exploration and drilling:
http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/09/news/economy/oil_cuba/index.htm
You are WRONG again, Ben:
http://www.sptimes.com/2006/05/08/Worldandnation/Cuba_seeks_oil_near_K.shtml
Ben
Your environmental nut friends are usually wrong.
Today is no different.
China is helping in the exploration.
I never said that the rigs and the labor were from China.
China is helping to finance the operation.
China is lending technology to the operation.
It is accurate to say that China is in a drilling partnership with Cuba, in the Gulf of Mexico.
No Paul; my scientist friends and colleagues are correct. It is your oil industry friends who are wrong.
McClatchy looked into those China claims and debunked them. And Republican Congressman Martinez is not one of my ‘environmental nut friends.’
And, on the science, your wacko nut friends are absolutely wrong. I realize that the science involved is a bit beyond freshman economics but it is there. And, when you get to economics beyond freshman and require internalization of costs fossil fuel doesn’t look as good.
“Red China should not be left to drill for oil within spitting distance of our shores without competition from U.S. industries,” Sen. Larry Craig, Republican of Idaho, told the Times.
May, 2006 claim by Larry Craig. Hardly PROOF Rossell!
There is no hope for America unless she begins to realize that it is not Gas and Oil that is getting more expensive.
It is the DOLLAR getting weaker. Go find the source of inflation and cut its head off.
The Federal Reserve is a great place to start. You could also help by cutting Government spending immediately. These are the reasons that things are going up in price.
It may be hard for some of us to understand, but college would actually be cheaper if there were no federal loans given to students.
Hopefully, some of you take the time to study money, credit, economics, finance, and accounting at some point in your lives. If not you, then you better teach your children.
“Well, China and India are both involved in Cuban oil exploration and drilling:”
As always Paul is the provider of misinformation. Funny how the cons can’t provide anything after 2006. You know why? Because it isn’t true. It’s so sad that this Cuba/China myth has been debunked for over a week now but they work so hard to keep uninformed.
More recent news on Larry Craig:
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/28/craig.arrest/
How about crafting a comprehensive energy policy, rather than fighting over ala carte menu items.
Conserve first, then drill.
As Obama suggests make Oil companies sitting on un-used oil leases pay into alternative energy development projects.
American company built cars get 50 – 60 % better gas mileage than the versions we can buy here. This is ridiculous. Moderize our fleet. Raise CAFE standards
Conservation and energy efficiency initiatives (never mentioned once in Bush’s recent drill a hole speech)
Fix the nuclear waste storage issue – still unresolved after 10 or 20 years of fiddling about.
Alternative energy push to reduce emissions – which even Bush says is a recognized need. New industries, new jobs. Wind and solar can go up on our roofs tomorrow – oil from new holes in Alaska will do nothing for us until the year 2020.
Investigate oil speculators and make them trade in regulated market, as Obama calls for.
Surely a true united national effort can can make a better plan than a working slob like me can develop on a blog…..
I really think you global warming alarmists should stop complaining about $4/gal gasoline.
The Markets ARE working. Oil demand in the US is down 2% and expected to end the year at 3% below last year – the first drop in 15 years.
You want Conservation or not? Then Conserve! And since YOU won’t Conserve on your own, the $4 or $5 per gallon gasoline should help motivate you to do the right thing!
Quit complaining about high prices Libs – YOU want to Conserve, Save the Environment, and save the World, don’t you?
Since you Libs absolutely refuse to Conserve gasoline, $4 or $5 per gallong gasoline isn’t enough to drop greenhouse gas emissions by 60 to 80%, which is necessary in order to save the world.
Therefore, Gas Rationing Coupons will be issued IMMEDIATELY.
Government will force ALL OF US to participate equally in saving the planet.
Each adult age 18 and older, who has at least one registered motor vehicle, shall receive a monthly Gas Coupon (looks like a debit card) which will allow you to buy up to 10 gallons of gasoline per week.
If your car gets 30 mpg, you can drive 300 miles each week. If your car gets 10 mpg, you can drive 100 miles each week.
You WILL be allowed to carry-over any unused gas coupon gallons, and you may buy/sell coupons on the black market though it will be illegal.
In 2009, your Gas Rationing allowance will drop from 10 to 9 gallons. (Remember, we must quickly decrease usage by 60 to 80%)
In 2010, your Gas Rationing allowance will drop to 8 gallons.
2011 to 7 gallons.
2012 to 6 gallons.
2013 to 5 gallons.
2014 to 4 gallons.
2015 to 3 gallons. (That should be low enough – FOR NOW.)
And thank you all, for sacrificing equally to save the planet. Your efforts are appreciated.
Oh, btw, there will also be Rationing of Natural Gas and Electricity!
The plan is currently under peer review, but will be shared at a later date.
(Hint: Buy candles and blankets. And buy those fold-out fan things that the old ladies used to fan themselves with on hot days.)
Can we get the politicians to look into a Windfalls tax on Wheat or Corn and or Soybeans. All have doubled or tripled and these evil farmers are pulling in terrible obscene profits.
Look at your milk at the store…your cereal for the little kiddies etc.
Some of these farms are gigantic. We need to break them up or as Congressman Henchey proposed last week for the US Oil industry, lets NATIONALIZE the farms and let the government run them.
Im sure Randy and the other nutroots at WE would be on board with this.
Oh, and gasoline will be $30/gallon in 2015, but you can only buy 3 gallons/week anyway.
It will cost you $90 to “fill” your tank each week though.
If any of you morons thinks the Dem’s are going to do anything about our oil and gas shortage or allow ne refineries ..think again. They like BJ Clinton will not allow any drilling so Look for very high prices at the pump. I care not. I am one of the lucky ones that can afford higher pump prices. Bring it on!
In the year 2015, you will say: “I can see clearly now, the smog is gone!”
“And it’s soooo much cooler with Global Warming eliminated. I hardly even miss having Air Conditioning and Refrigeration!”
Amen Jack!
High prices should help us save the planet from Global Warming and Environmental Catastrophy!
Vote Democrat for higher prices!
Somebody needs to remind the Cons about the concept of “commodities.”
There’s nothing different from wheat grown in Kansas or wheat harvested in Ukraine or wheat grown in Australia (or not, as it turns out recently, due to climate change). It’s all wheat.
Yeah, there’s soft summer wheat as opposed to hard winter wheat, but the pasta market is a niche. Otherwise, wheat is wheat and every bushel produced in Kansas is just a segment of the overal market.
Oil as a commodity is the same thing. Drill and pump out all the crude oil you imagine you might find under American soil and, at its most optimistic predictions, it will contribute another 1 or 2% of of the world’s production of a commodity.
When the RepubliCON party starts talking about all the oil that might be produced from ANWR or the Coastal Shelf or Rocky Mountan shale… and if all that coulda-be oil were only marketed in the United States… yeah, well, maybe it might free us from OPEC for a year or two. Maybe.
But the economics of the oil business make it far more profitable to pump oil out of Alaska and sell it to China and Japan… at OPEC prices. That’s just good business.
The only way the “Drill here! Burn here! Save here” meme can make any sense in America is if all American-produced petroleum is available only to Americans. That mean nationalizing all domestic oil production. Somehow I suspect the Cons aren’t all that ready to embrace that concept; but that’s the corner they’ve painted themselves into.
And then John Sidney McCain the Third (for Shrub’s 3rd term) admits that all this “drill here, burn here…” rhetoric offers simply a “psychological” benefit.
Oh no!
We won’t need to drill here!
We can Conserve our way out of this mess. (See the Rationing posts above.)
And Alternative Clean Renewable Energy!
We can switch to the immediately! Right now! Today!
No need to drill in the USA.
Conserve, Conserve, Conserve!
(Going out to buy my Hyrdrogen car and Solar Home Electricity Cells now!)
“Each adult age 18 and older, who has at least one registered motor vehicle, shall receive a monthly Gas Coupon (looks like a debit card) which will allow you to buy up to 10 gallons of gasoline per week.”
What do I do with all my left over coupons?
10 gallons a week? Are people that wasteful?
Try again, Ben:
“In the modern era, Cuba’s first significant oil find came in 1971 when Soviet engineers discovered the Varadero field, east of Havana. After the Soviet Union collapsed, Cuba opened its oil program to foreign investment in 1993. Today, companies from Spain, Norway, India, Malaysia and China are involved, either drilling wells onshore or using horizontal drilling to reach reservoirs in shallow coastal waters.”
http://www.usatoday.com/money/world/2007-02-22-cuba-usat_x.htm
I do agree with McCain on nuclear but with my own twist (which I have discussed before). McCain has also spoken to the need to decommission more warheads – another agreement.
So – back-mix weapons-grade material with depleted uranium to make fuel grade. This also ‘ruins’ it for weapons. With that as fuel we have enough for centuries.
Biblical ’swords into plowshares’
Going to the Solar store at: http://www.altersystems.com/catalog/specials.php
Only $24,999 right now for a start-up solar/wind kit. In 7 years, it will have paid for itself.
Buy em quick though, they are selling out fast!
Converting my car next month after I order the Hydrogen Conversion kit.
http://www.water-car-truth.com/index4.php?bkw=hydrogen%20fuel%20car%20kits&src=Google&ver=&med=PPC&adg=Hydrogen+Fuel+Kit&cam=Content+America&gclid=CMrx9dDRkJQCFQtvGgod20U8uQ
My car will run on water!
Max is a fruit cake. However, he will probably lose some weight or have a heart attack flailing his arms so much
I hope he does….
onshore or using horizontal drilling to reach reservoirs in shallow coastal waters
Onshore and slant drilling. NOT out in the ocean.
Ask your neighborhood Licensed Geologist about the difference Paul.
More details on my Hydrogen car can be found here:
http://www.drivewithwaterfuel.com/?hop=stevemgray
Our conversion guide will show you how to use electricity from your car’s battery to separate water into a gas known as HHO. HHO, also known as Hydroxy burns effectively and supplies significant energy, whilst the end product is just Water. HHO has the atomic power of Hydrogen and maintains the stability of Water! This is very easy to do, we will show you exactly how!
This technology is proven. Only a small amount of water is needed as well, for example: one quart of water provides you with over 1800 gallons of HHO gas, which will last you for months as fuel, this will save you heaps of money at the same time as improving your vehicles fuel efficiency dramatically.
“In the modern era, Cuba’s first significant oil find came in 1971 when Soviet engineers discovered the Varadero field, east of Havana. After the Soviet Union collapsed, Cuba opened its oil program to foreign investment in 1993. Today, companies from Spain, Norway, India, Malaysia and China are involved, either drilling wells onshore or using horizontal drilling to reach reservoirs in shallow coastal waters.”
You notice how that isn’t offshore drilling as Republicans claim. Where are the oil rigs that are 45 miles off the coast of Florida? Too bad Republican politics prevented American companies from getting in on the action.
Monkey
You do NOT know what you are talking about, at all, on this subject.
EVERY drop of oil produced, anywhere in the world, MEETS world demand.
Therefore, we want EVERYONE to produce as much oil as possible.
Oil produced in Alaska will bring down the price of United States gasoline, no matter who that end product is sold to.
It does NOT matter if Alaskan oil ends up in Canada, China, Japan or the lower 48, that oil WILL be part of the “supply” in the “supply and demand” calculations that determine price.
Oh, they have a big sale for today only! Go to this site now and get a great deal.
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“This technology is proven. Only a small amount of water is needed as well, for example: one quart of water provides you with over 1800 gallons of HHO gas, which will last you for months as fuel, this will save you heaps of money at the same time as improving your vehicles fuel efficiency dramatically.”
Huh? I guess we’ll have to rewrite the laws of thermodynamics. Can I interest you in purchasing a perpetual motion machine as well?
And, Oil produced off shore, and oil produced in Alaska will definately produce jobs, tax revenue, and economic benefits for all Americans.
Got it! Buying the Hydrogen Car Kit (you can install it yourself!) for just $9,995 and they even financed it at 9.95% interest too!
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Go Democrats, jack up the price of gas now!
I
DON’T
CARE !!!
“Therefore, we want EVERYONE to produce as much oil as possible.
Oil produced in Alaska will bring down the price of United States gasoline, no matter who that end product is sold to.”
So your claim that there is so much oil in ANWR that it will affect global prices? Well, okay, it is estimated that the price of gas will drop by a penny a gallon.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4542853/
Wow, that makes it all worth it doesn’t it? Increasing fuel efficiency would reduce the cost of gasoline more than sucking all the oil out of ANWR. I drink your milkshake.
Ah, come on Maggot, don’t you support Alternative Energy NOW? Don’t you care about saving the planet?
No oil drillin needed, we have OPTIONS today!
Ben
When was the last time you got a pay check from the oil industry?
When was the last time you did any seismic tests, or the last time you ever certified reserves for an industry or SEC report?
Intellectual narcissist that you are, I know that your sheepskin is, often, all you have to wave around.
Not much, in the way of results.
But, HEY, you got that degree huh?
Your degree does not intimidate me or anyone else, Ben. Lots of people with much higher levels of training than you think you are full of it.
Try to win on logic and facts, would you?
It is a standard rule to live by: those who constantly bring up their credentials are usually the most defensive about their actual abilities, and often for very good reason.
You are not an expert on oil reserves.
You are not an expert on oil exploration.
You are are an environmental nut with about the same familiarity with the oil industry as the average college prof.
Not much, in other words.
Feel free to buy your water car Max. I’ll stick with the one vehicle that truly runs on water, a boat.
“When was the last time you got a pay check from the oil industry?”
I got one in 1997. Lovely thing about being an Alaskan, you get one big fat check every year. So does that make me an expert now? Well, comparing myself to one that sees Chinese oil wells off the coast of Florida and believes oil in ANWR will give us cheap gas, I guess it does.
Prices are set, in large measure, by predictions of the future supply and demand.
Proving to the world that the United States WILL produce more of its own oil would have an immediate downward effect on price.
By the way, Maggot, the Dems in Congress want to SUE Opec, and force OPEC to — produce about as much additional oil as ANWR could provide!!!
Hypocrits!
Why Paul, aren’t you an advocate of the free market? Now you are shilling for a cartel that engages in price fixing? I didn’t know you were a commie.
For the record, I clearly stated that China WAS involved in exploration, off the coast of Cuba.
I have not been proven wrong on that point.
In fact, I have proven my point:
China is involved in Cuban oil exploration!!
I want the world to produce as much oil as possible.
The rest of the world WILL do exactly that.
It is only America, if the greens have their way, which will not produce as much as possible.
Paul – I have been out of the oil industry for a while. However I have many ‘drinking buddies’ who are still in the oil patch and converse with them regularly.
How about you?
You are a skeptic idiot with about the same familiarity with science as the average freshman econ student.
Zero, in other words.
“For the record, I clearly stated that China WAS involved in exploration, off the coast of Cuba.”
“China is involved in Cuban oil exploration!!”
So when you said:
“China is drilling off the coast of Cuba.”
What were you saying? That’s the thing about lying Paul, sometimes it’s easy to check what you write.
McCain says we should not drill in ANWAR which is basically a frozen wasteland where nobody ever goes. I guess he is worried that the Caribu will get pissed off or something. But on other hand he can support putting drilling platforms off the beautiful clean beachfronts of Georgia and Florida where millions of people go and live. This proves that McCain really has no brain at all.
econ101 posted,
“… produce about as much additional oil as ANWR could provide!!!”
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The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is very unlikely to produce “additional” oil.
By the time Refuge production becomes significant (if it ever does), it’ll only help replace other declining domestic sources.
Maybe status quo at best.
Higher energy efficiency is guaranteed to “produce” many Refuges of oil.
World oil price is set by supply AND demand.
Reduce demand with higher energy efficiency, and prices will drop — that was proven in the 1980’s.
One other problem I have with the rush to drill is ‘tomorrow’ – after we use up all of our reserves then what? Wouldn’t we be better off kicking our addiction now?
It’s like the Ogalalla aquifer – we need to wean ourselves from it BEFORE it runs dry; not after we crash and burn.
You know what is funny? What is funny is to watch Americans bawl like spoiled children over gas prices. I guess most people in this country think low gas prices and huge SUVs are a “birthright” or something. And then have politicians complain about how much China’s demand is rising. Never to mention that the average American uses 25 barrels of oil to every 1 that the Chinese use! If gas prices bother you that much, here are your options:
A. Buy a Toyota or Honda
B. Move closer to work
C. Ride the bus
D. Wait until fall when the prices go back down
People in Europe, that pay twice and more what we pay for gas, must really be amused watching us all moan, groan and bitch about $4 a gallon! They would KILL for $4 a gallon!
Kev posted June 25, 2008 at 5:49 pm
“McCain says we should not drill in ANWAR which is basically a frozen wasteland where nobody ever goes. I guess he is worried that the Caribu will get pissed off or something.”
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A frozen wasteland…?
http://www.oilonice.org/gallery/gallery.php?slide=130AutumnLakeshore.htm
‘Potential Impacts of Oil and Gas Development on Refuge Resources’
http://arctic.fws.gov/issues1.htm#section4
Impact of the “modern” oil technology that would be used in the Refuge,
http://www.wilderness.org/Library/Documents/upload/AlpineNoEnvironmentalShowpiece.pdf
A speculative map of what the 2,000-acre “limit” allows,
http://www.inforain.org/Northslope/anwr_3.html
Increasing U.S. light vehicle fleet mpg by only 0.4 mpg (4/10ths) would save about 3.2 BILLION barrels of oil over a 30-year period.
There are other savings in heavy vehicle mpg, heating oil usage, etc.
cosmos_originally
Posted June 25, 2008 at 6:06 pm | Permalink
Increasing U.S. light vehicle fleet mpg by only 0.4 mpg (4/10ths) would save about 3.2 BILLION barrels of oil over a 30-year period.
There are other savings in heavy vehicle mpg, heating oil usage, etc.
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30 year period?
And cosmos is worried about taking 3-10 year to explore for oil.
30 years from now, we will be a subsidiary of OPEC, China and the European Union as slave states to do their work.
Multi-nic’d ‘Regular’ posted,
“30 year period?”
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Actually, if the Arctic Refuge was opened to drilling, it’d take about 10 years for the first oil to flow. And decades more to increase, peak, and then run dry.
Higher energy efficiency could “produce” more than the Arctic Refuge, sooner, faster, and cheaper.
http://old.rmi.org/images/other/Energy/E01-04_FoolsGoldAnnot.pdf
“… and if the refuge yielded the USGS’s’s mean estimate of about 3.2 billion barrels of profitable oil, the 30-year output would average a modest 292,000 barrels of crude oil a day.
Once refined, that amount would yield 156,000 barrels of gasoline per day — enough to run 2 percent of American cars and light trucks. That much gasoline could be saved if light vehicles became 0.4 mpg more efficient.
Compare that feat to the one achieved in 1979–85, when new light vehicles on average gained 0.4 mpg every 5 months.”
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