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By: Rage

Rage — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:48:07 +0000

The more I learn about this bill, the more I realize that it sucks, period. Never mind immunity–it needs to be scrapped.

But if the immunity provision can be a poison pill )let’s make it one!) then so be it.

By: Jed

Jed — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:03:17 +0000

Pall,
Y’gotta admit though that if 9/11 wasn’t an inside job, it was certainly serendipitous for the previously published neo-con agenda.
Let’s see; they were going to quickly and easily take down Iraq, install a democratic (read friendly to the Bush administration) government, and the rest of the middle east would look at Iraq and demand democracy for themselves and convert, in neo-con’s idiot’s version of the Domino Theory, and be so grateful to the US that they’d practically give Bush their oil! All they needed was an excuse to invade Iraq, which they didn’t exactly get, but close enough for horseshoes. Unfortunately, it seems not to have gone quite according to plan.

By: WSClark

WSClark — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:09:19 +0000

GWB makes clear, however, that some very crazy people do exist, in the Republican Party.

By: Franklin

Franklin — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:53:25 +0000

Monkey
Your partisanship is showing.
You through the “mortgage loan” issue in?
Do you have any idea how many Democrats in Congress got sweetheart deals from Countrywide?
Maggie Williams went from an executive, at a Sub Prime lender, back to the Clinton campaign.
Obama got help from convicted criminal Rezco.

By: Franklin

Franklin — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:46:52 +0000

“Shame on you” — Bill Clinton, not long ago, during a campaign stop, when someone claimed that “9-11 was an inside job”.

I always suspected that the nut who said that was a Clinton plant, used as a foil to make the Clinton’s seem moderate.

BJ makes clear, however, that some very crazy people do exist, in the Democrat Party.

By: writerdog

writerdog — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:04:11 +0000

A question about the domestic spying that has as of yet been answered. Why did the Bush administration start the spying before 9-11? Several heads of communications business have stated that prior to 9-11 they were approached and as a condition of large Government contracts were to allow the intersection of domestic communications by the U.S. government. Nearly five months before Sept 11, 2001, why was this and on what grounds?

By: Jed

Jed — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:57:30 +0000

Monk,
I think you’re on to something there! Proof of an Obama-Second would establish the unit of quantum time/space that would be symmetric to quantum mass/energy, bringing quantum mechanics into line with Superstring Theory. Of course it will need to be written up and submitted to the appropriate peer-review journals and the Vatican for final approval. This will be the greatest thing (outside of declaring war somewhere) that a United States President ever has done for science!

By: Jed

Jed — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:42:05 +0000

WS,
“Just answer, Generass, what did Bush do about the Cole attack?
Simple – then we can go from there…………..

I think I’ll answer that one myself. What he did was tow the damn thing home and make the American Taxpayers cough up however many Billions (with a B) it took to fix it, so he could play “who’s got the bigger dick” with Bin Laden. Bin Laden replied on 9/11.

By: Monkeyhawk

Monkeyhawk — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:49:49 +0000

Thanks, “Chas” –

You might look up the Peggy Noonan profile at (I think; I’ve lost track of the specific URL) wwd.com

She’s one of those conservatives I usually disagree with, but always love to read. Unlike Limbaugh, for example, she sometimes departs from Republic Party sound bites and reveals true conservative integrity. Sort of like Barry Goldwater. “In your guts you know he’s nuts.” But at least he had a certain thought process working.

By: Chas

Chas — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:35:32 +0000

Thats just plain funny, M-H no matter who ya are!! LOL

By: Monkeyhawk

Monkeyhawk — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:17:31 +0000

“DavidB” observes –

“Bush: the most unpopular President in modern history. To his remaining, dwindling defenders: It’s all downhill from here for you guys. No end in sight to the war, the economy in ruins, unemployment up, scandal after scandal, and corruption charges after corruption charges, cronyism, no-bid contracts, toxic FEMA trailers, poisonous Chinese children toys and mortgage crimes caused by anti-regulation extremists….”

In a breakthrough for physics and political science, researchers have predicted the absolute shortest unit of time. Shorter than a millisecond, a billionths of a nanosecond, even less time than it takes a Chicago cab driver to honk at you when the light turns green, this new, tiniest unite of time is called the “Obama-second.”

It marks the length of time it will take after 12 Noon, January 20, 2009 for the Republic Party Slime Machine to blame Democrats for “No end in sight to the war, the economy in ruins, unemployment up, scandal after scandal, and corruption charges after corruption charges, cronyism, no-bid contracts, toxic FEMA trailers, poisonous Chinese children toys, mortgage crimes caused by anti-regulation extremists, and teenaged loose women.”

By: DavidB

DavidB — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:39:31 +0000

Bush swore to defend and uphold the Constitution with his hand on a Holy Bible. I saw it on TV. I guess the Constitution is too weak and poor a document to withstand the assault of a handful of guys and a couple of stolen airplanes.

Bush: the most unpopular President in modern history. To his remaining, dwindling defenders: It’s all downhill from here for you guys. No end in sight to the war, the economy in ruins, unemployment up, scandal after scandal, and corruption charges after corruption charges, cronyism, no-bid contracts, toxic FEMA trailers, poisonous Chinese children toys and mortgage crimes caused by anti-regulation extremists….

Please.. keep defending Bush and his record. Please.

By: WSClark

WSClark — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:15:32 +0000

“How about you WS?”

Just answer, Generass, what did Bush do about the Cole attack?

Simple – then we can go from there…………..

By: Rage

Rage — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:06:54 +0000

Call your Senators: Demand a filibuster unless the retroactive immunity provision is removed.

By: StevenEDavis

StevenEDavis — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:03:04 +0000

“The Repiglican Party: defending the flag, and shitting on the Constitution.”

Thank you. No more needs to be said.

Nite all…

By: Jed

Jed — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:48:50 +0000

Gene, since MP didn’t answer your questions, I will.

“Had Bush done all that he has done against terrorism in the past 7 years, when he got that memo, we wouldn’t be in Iraq now, would we. You’d be okay with that.”

I’d be okay if we weren’t in Iraq, but since the invasion of Iraq had been the the neo-con plan since 1995, we would be in Iraq whether there had been a 9/11 or not. Bush would have found another equally insane justification.

“Having Saddam in power was much more preferable. Tell that to the families of those in the mass graves. Tell them they have NO RIGHT to live in freedom, to do or say what they want.”

Although accurate figures are nearly impossible to come by, the best guess that I can come by is that in the last 5 years, we’ve killed more Iraqis than Saddam did in 16. So Bush holds the current title of Butcher of Bagdad! I might also point out that Iraq is no more free now than it was under Saddam. People are still being arrested with little or no cause and imprisoned and tortured without trial. The overwhelming majority of Iraqis want us the hell out of their country.
I know those weren’t quite the answers you wanted, but given the credibility of the Bush administration, for lack of a better story the truth will just have to suffice.

By: BlueJay

BlueJay — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:06:56 +0000

I’ll answer your question geneo.

I have not ruled out the possibility that 911 was an inside job.

It’s not as crazy as people try to insist it is.

You have to start with the question: “Who benefited the most from the events of Sept 11?

How about you answer that question for me?