Comments on: Immigrant crackdown penalized taxpayers

By: getitright

getitright — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:31:28 +0000

Certainly hard to show how an illegal alien family can obtain more food stamp benefits on this screen because the benefits tables are not available easily represented here. But I can tell you is common knowledge within the SRS. One example I had was a illegal alien head of household was earning $10.50 per hour with two children, which were legal. The food stamp household is two, not three. The legal head of household of three earning $10.00 would be disqualified to recieve food stamps. It is a simple matter of changing the code from DI to PA on the eligibility screen to see the difference. The descrepancy is in the computer doing the calculation in the difference for the rent and household expenses.
While the money is minimal, any food stamp recipients do get free school lunches. That makes a difference to any low income family.

By: BlueJay

BlueJay — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:15:56 +0000

Institute draconian penalties on those who hire illegals.

Place a tax of at least 50% on all funds wired from the US to Mexico.

By: WSClark

WSClark — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:56:09 +0000

“It is a fact that an illegal alien head of household can make more money than a legal citizen and get more benefits than that legal family household of the same size.”

If it is a fact, then it should be easy to provide proof of your claim.

So do it…………

By: getitright

getitright — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:58:47 +0000

As a former employee of the SRS I can tell you ole Andy is putting a spin on the facts. One thing the SRS is not telling you is the illegal alien that gives birth does not pay the bill. The newborn is considered a citizen and the state picks up the bill under Medicaid or SOBRA.
Everyone should also understand that SRS knows where families are that receive Food Stamps and TAF (TANF), which have children considered citizens. It is a fact that an illegal alien head of household can make more money than a legal citizen and get more benefits than that legal family household of the same size.
Think about it, the SRS knows where illegal aliens – people breaking the law – and do not turn the names or addresses over to the INS.

By: Jed

Jed — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:54:48 +0000

jbsaab99,
Xenophobia has been exploited in the US for over 150 years as a way to opress workers. If it’s not one group, it’s another. Irish, Chinese, Germans, Jews, Italians Serbians and now Hispanic people have been made to suffer in order to keep American workers properly subjugated. Don’t worry, they’ll be on to some other group before long. It’s just the American way of saying “Howdy!”

By: sunflower5

sunflower5 — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:01:50 +0000

They don’t take into account the illegal’s that use the emergency room for their health care. That cost is paid by all of us in the prices at the hospitals and our insurance rates.

By: jbsaab99

jbsaab99 — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:15:55 +0000

All the arguments about the ‘cost of illegal immigration’ are kind of silly. They would be solved if there was a guest worker program, and they were payed a proper wage and were taxed properly.
The kids that are born here the “anchor babies” know english, try hard and succeed in school. They go on to be successful in life and help our economy. Yet would would deport them to a life of filth in mexico simply because of a choice their parents made. These are the kind of people that help our country, not hurt it! They build it with a hard work ethic and a positive attitude. Most of these kids don’t even have a spanish accent. They are not draining the system they are building it.

So I really try to figure out people’s hatred for them. I hate to think it’s because of racism, but sometimes I think it must be, I can’t think of any other answer. It’s not about them breaking the law or anything like that. Them breaking the law because of a ridiculous system of immigration doesn’t hurt you in any way. You probably break the law everyday when you drive by speeding or not coming to a complete stop, but you don’t hear my saying that someone should take your car away.

It’s a lack of understanding, misplaced hatred. We have always hated the newest immigrant group to our country, whether Irish, polish, or germans. We always blame the newcomer for all our ills. In the end, people will look back at your attitude in the future just like we look back on those who hated the newcomers then- with a sad shake of our head.

By: GMAN

GMAN — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:49:00 +0000

It really boils down to racism; it’s as simple as that!

By: Mary_Caruso

Mary_Caruso — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:33:58 +0000

“…20,000 eligible Kansans lost their health insurance because they had difficulty producing the required documentation.”

It’s really no big deal and it happens all the time…every person on Medicaid has to complete a review every year to stay eligible for benefits…often the ones who have mental illness, mental retardation, or for a variety of other reasons, fail to get the forms filled out and as a result, lose their health insurance. It only takes a moment to get it back once someone realizes what happened, and it’s always retroactive when it comes to medical reimbursements. I’m sure it was handled the same way in this situation.

By: Mary_Caruso

Mary_Caruso — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:06:25 +0000

“Ahhh, if 20,000 lost their coverage because they weren’t Americans, then what was the SAVINGS from not paying for health care for 20,000 non-Americans?”

Just think, the money saved by not covering them for a short while is probably equal to what we spend in a few hours in Iraq.

By: Chas

Chas — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:35:32 +0000

“…20,000 eligible Kansans lost their health insurance because they had difficulty producing the required documentation.”

Thats pretty darned clear… 20,000 ELIGIBLE Kansans LOST (inferring they had it previously) their health insurance…. because of not having the required documents….

Thats the SAD part… they had it, and then some new law comes in, and Poof!! — They LOSE it!!

That law needs to be re-visited…. and fixed!!

By: WSClark

WSClark — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:10:36 +0000

“Yet that is the argument many in our government make over illegal immigration and benefits”

Oh, bullshit – McCain AND Bush both were for amnesty for illegal immigrants and McCain co-wrote the amnesty bill that he is now “against.”

If you want to do something about illegal immigration – and since so many of you are for the death penalty – sentence business owners that hire illegal immigrants to death – one appeal – thirty days – lop off their heads – on live television.

There would be NO illegal immigrants if there were NO jobs.

Off with their heads!!!!

By: bth

bth — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:02:41 +0000

Actually you would be surprised at how often companies WILL use the old Yugo to transport stuff like that. It is safer because nobody expects it.

Paul – I would think that with your experience you could devise at least some methods for ‘grandfathering’ in people like that you mentioned.

By: Boxlock

Boxlock — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:51:52 +0000

Franklin,
Your logic is ’spot on’ above where you say that since armored cars carrying cash almost never are robbed, why do they spend all that money on those vehicles and guards. Bicycle runners should be good enough and much cheaper. Ha!
Yet that is the argument many in our government make over illegal immigration and benefits, and frankly the Democrats make over voter ID as well.
Just stupid.

By: bth

bth — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:37:58 +0000

Paul – I would like to see some other sort of ‘paper trail’ be allowed to show eligibility in cases like that. For example, my tax returns dating back several decades. Very old high school stuff. Sort of a ‘grandfathering’ of it.

I agree with the goal – just not sure of the methodology.

By: Maggotpunk

Maggotpunk — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:28:33 +0000

One million dollars to catch one guy. Another example of Republicans working hard to waste your money.

By: Franklin

Franklin — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:24:05 +0000

I have had trouble with “child bride” situations.
Husband does not fully retire, and go on “Part B” until after age 75 or so.
Wife is, now, nearing 65 or something.
Wife was born on the kitchen table in Indian Territory somewhere.
Wife was on hubby’s insurance, all of these years.
Even if she has a Social Security number, it is hard to get other documents.
Getting HER on Social Security and Medicare can be a headache, but it can be done.
And, it SHOULD be difficult.
This is taxpayer money, and we want to discourage fraud.

By: Franklin

Franklin — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:19:44 +0000

Why do banks waste all of that money using armed guards and armored cars to haul their money around?
They almost never get robbed.
Wouldn’t it be cheaper to hire teenagers to haul around bags of cash in their used Yugo’s?

The logic is just the same, here!

Illegals don’t apply for Medicaid, under the new rules, because they don’t want to get CAUGHT!

By: bth

bth — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:19:01 +0000

Paul – IF they have already vetted their existence.

However, you do have a valid point; but there is still the 55-65 group who were told by the SS administration NOT to use SS cards for ID.

By: bth

bth — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:17:12 +0000

“20,000 eligible Kansans”

I assume that “eligible” means they were not “ineligible”. That would then mean they were NOT illeagls since then they would be “ineligible.”

By: Franklin

Franklin — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:16:46 +0000

Actually, age should HELP, if the person is over 65.
If over 65, or disabled, that person is ALREADY on Medicare.
People on Medicare are NOT affected by this Medicaid law.
People on Medicare are documented through the Medicare system, already.

By: DavidB

DavidB — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:11:55 +0000

Another Republican scheme to “protect” us that then winds up hurting us.

By: bth

bth — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:02:09 +0000

I was lucky. When I had to go through the I-9 documentation my mother was still alive and could deal with the people in Georgia to track down a Birth Registration. (They never did find an actual birth certificate). With that and knowing my SS# I was able to obtain a new SS card. I now keep my passport up-to-date.

I would be very interested in knowing the ages of the 20,000. The older they are the less likely they would be to have their ‘papers’

By: DavidB

DavidB — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:01:56 +0000

20,000 Eligible Kansans Lost Insurance? SHAME SHAME SHAME

Just wait until yer mama cant vote.

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