Comments on: Did ignoramus advise McCain on Gitmo ruling?

By: sobredosis de valium

sobredosis de valium — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 09:52:29 +0000

valium…

valium no prescription…

By: Maggotpunk

Maggotpunk — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:52:33 +0000

“Did it ever occur to anyone that McCane may have briefed the administration on what techniques the Vietnamese used to get him to betray his country?”

It was either torture or use the modern technique that convinced McCain to sell out his country, lavish campaign donations and use of a corporate jet.

By: Jed

Jed — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:49:56 +0000

Lindainks,
“The Pentagon in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks pursued abusive interrogation techniques once used by North Korea and Vietnam on American POWs despite stern warnings by several military lawyers that the methods were cruel and even illegal, according to a Senate investigation.”

Did it ever occur to anyone that McCane may have briefed the administration on what techniques the Vietnamese used to get him to betray his country?

By: InspectorT

InspectorT — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:35:29 +0000

Rage, You probably think it’s all about the oil. Let me tell you the secret. We are really stealing the sand to clean up our beaches.

By: Pleefer

Pleefer — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:29:59 +0000

Imagine that, being able to face your accuser…hmm.

By: Jed

Jed — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:52:18 +0000

Rage,
Keeping most of our military personnel halfway around the world prevents them from staging a military coup d’etat here over poverty-level military pay, repeated deployments and mistreatment of wounded soldiers until Honeywell and Blackwater, et al, are finished looting the treasury.

By: Rage

Rage — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:27:47 +0000

P.S. psst. . .Afghanistan is just as bad! Pass it on!

By: Rage

Rage — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:19:48 +0000

Maybe we should just bring home all our military and see how long it takes for those whackos to start with the car bomb here in the U.S.

Uh. . .right. The moment we stop policing a civil war in Iraq, they will attack in the U.S.

I don’t suppose you can explain how spending billions and diverting hundreds of thousands of American soliders to policing a civil war in an occupied country somehow keeps the wackos from us attacking here?

Please go on: this could be grimly entertaining. Though I suspect that one post burnt out the 9-volt battery that powers what passes for your brain.

By: InspectorT

InspectorT — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:12:34 +0000

Since we are only over there with our military for the OIL and not because of the fact that the Islamic Terrorist have issues with bombing American Embassy’s, Buildings, Navy ships or Killing Americans where ever they can.
Maybe we should just bring home all our military and see how long it takes for those whackos to start with the car bomb here in the U.S.

By: Rage

Rage — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:09:49 +0000

Justice Robert Jackson:
The Constitution is not a suicide pact

The case in question involved a single priest making “anti-semetic, pro-Nazi” (Wikipedia) rants. Obnoxious, awful speech, but still speech. Thanks for your endorsement of censorship, fleetie. Jackson, for all of his farsighted opinions, was seriously out to lunch on this one.

Now, from memory, Justice Douglas: “The purpose of free speech is to invite dispute. It often serves its noble purpose best when it {pisses people off}.

The case is Terminiello v. Chicago. Look it up yourself.

P.S. Care to look up the procedures and standards of proof for the war crimes tribunals that Jackson headed? Gee, I didn’t think so, as it would utterly undermine your thoroughly asinine argument.

By: lindainks55

lindainks55 — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:49:41 +0000

From the link above:

“A senior CIA lawyer at the meeting, John Fredman, explained that whether harsh interrogation amounted to torture “is a matter of perception.” The only sure test for torture is if the detainee died.

“If the detainees dies, you’re doing it wrong,” Fredman said.”

McCain wants to continue the bushco war of choice for a hundred years. McCain for bush’s THIRD term! Warmongers, murderers, crazy men!

By: lindainks55

lindainks55 — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:39:42 +0000

Another part of the “detainee” situation for McCain to be proud of.

Probe: Pentagon lawyers sought harsh interrogation

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Pentagon in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks pursued abusive interrogation techniques once used by North Korea and Vietnam on American POWs despite stern warnings by several military lawyers that the methods were cruel and even illegal, according to a Senate investigation.

http://tinyurl.com/5a7xd9

By: Jed

Jed — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:38:37 +0000

Reggie,
“An enemy combatant being an non-uniformed agressor who plays by no rules and is often declared an outlaw by their country of origin”

You mean to tell me that our founding fathers wouldn’t have wanted the Constitution to have applied to….them?

By: lindainks55

lindainks55 — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:55:53 +0000

He lied and started an unjustified war that made no one any safer, lied some more to cover up his lies so he could be reelected (narrowly) during war time. That’s a sad fact!

By: WSClark

WSClark — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:52:17 +0000

“And the American people were so pissed, they elected him again.”

And now he has the lowest sustained approval ratings in American presidential history.

I will resist the temptation to say – I told you so.

By: fleettwood

fleettwood — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:48:06 +0000

5 to 4.

And the American people were so pissed, they elected him again.

Damn it man!

By: WSClark

WSClark — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:41:50 +0000

“In a per curiam opinion, by a vote of 7-2, the Court in Bush v. Gore held that the Florida Supreme Court’s method for recounting ballots was unconstitutional, and by a vote of 5-4, held that no alternative method could be established within the time limits set by the State of Florida. The 7-2 portion of the per curiam opinion was decided based upon the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The critical 5-4 portion of the per curiam opinion involved the remedy for that Equal Protection violation. Three of the concurring justices also asserted that the Florida Supreme Court had violated Article II, § 1, cl. 2 of the Constitution, by misinterpreting Florida election law that had been enacted by the Florida Legislature.”

Five to four………………….

By: fleettwood

fleettwood — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:36:33 +0000

“5-4 – that put your candidate in office in December 2000.”

That would be 7 to 2

Not so close.

By: WSClark

WSClark — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:31:38 +0000

“Not by much.”

You were okay with a SCOTUS decision – 5-4 – that put your candidate in office in December 2000.

Remember – you told us to “get over it?”

Well, hypocrite, get over it.

By: fleettwood

fleettwood — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:28:14 +0000

The SCOTUS disagrees with you

Not by much.

By: fleettwood

fleettwood — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:27:16 +0000

Justice Robert Jackson:
The Constitution is not a suicide pact

By: WSClark

WSClark — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:25:43 +0000

“It has little to do with who is covered under American Law.”

The SCOTUS disagrees with you – I thought you ‘Pukes were ALL about the rule of law…..

Guess not.

By: fleettwood

fleettwood — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:21:44 +0000

“The Framers were quite clear about inalienable rights for everyone regardless of nationality.”

Mankind have those rights. It has little to do with who is covered under American Law.

By: DavidB

DavidB — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:17:51 +0000

We may like to recall that G. Gordon Liddy and his pals in the Nixon White House discussed and considered plans to kidnap and ‘disappear’ anti-war leaders during the war with Vietnam.

By: Rage

Rage — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:37:09 +0000

The only law in the Constitution that specifically applies to citizens is in regards to who is eligible to be President.

So why, exactly, should we allow that damn Panamanian to run this country? I think he’s up to something shady: Off to Gitmo for you, John! Your time in Hanoi will prove to be useful!