Barack Obama is expected to secure the Democratic nomination tonight, between the primaries in South Dakota and Montana and the endorsements of more superdelegates. It has certainly been an epic race, but also one that, columnist Richard Cohen argues, had a lot to hate about it. “Yes, voter participation is way up and in the end, the Democrats will choose a woman or an African-American and, to invoke that tiresome phrase, history will be made,” Cohen wrote. “But this messy nominating process has eroded the standing of both candidates. It has highlighted the reality that racism still runs deep and that misogyny, although more imagined than real, is not yet a wholly spent force. This is an ugly porridge that has been placed before us, turned rancid since the cold, pristine days of Iowa only five months ago.”
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It doesn’t matter how ugly it will get. The Republicans look like they don’t even want the White House in 2008. Now we have Dick Cheney torquing off West Virginia. This has to be scripted. It’s looking like the WWF more and more every day.
Regular: I will assume that Halliburton has no need for the Bituminous coal that you spoke of 3 weeks ago
(chortle)
…..and it’s all Bushes fault…….
“But this messy nominating process has eroded the standing of both candidates”
The vision of a pen full of pigs fighting over a chicken carcass comes to mind….
Well Heckler, you are thinking too much. This is West Virginia we are talking about. These people vote for Hillary because someone gave their son the middle name of Hussein.
But we shouldn’t look down on them. We may need their Bituminous coal. Or at least that is the opinion of my good buddy Regular.
No wonder the voter turn out was high during this election. There was more American Idol type drama for everyone to drink in.
Mr. Brownlee makes some excellent points here.
Sadly, I’m not exuberant about any of the candidates. In 2004, I was enthused by John Kerry. Then, in the wake of his defeat in 11/2004, even his own Democratic pundits were pounding on his faults. Terry McAuliffe was even savagely trounced by (Democrat) commentators.
Oh, what a dirty, ugly business is politics.
It was sort of akin to one of O.J.’s lawyers deriding his own ilk – AFTER the insipid verdict came in and a double butcher walked, natch. (”We not only played the race card, we dealt it from the bottom of the deck.” – Robert Shapiro – 10/3/95)
I’m sick to saturation of Rev. Wright. I’m tired of ol’ Billy-Club Clinton. I’m horrified of McCain. I’m terrified of four more years of Bush politics.
It shouldn’t have to be this way. Politics is a noble and honorable profession. None of us would enjoy the lives we live today were it not for so many dedicated individuals.
But I’m not enthused – and perhaps the fault lies with me. But I must vote – I regard it as my obligation. If I do not – I have no right to (b-word) – none whatsoever.
“Politics is a noble and honorable profession.”
Since when? Ever? It’s a dirty business. It’s about winning, first and foremost. Policy goals are a means to an end; the end is winning and assuming power. It has always been so.
“None of us would enjoy the lives we live today were it not for so many dedicated individuals.”
No, FilmFan; we enjoy our lives largely despite government, not because of it. And every responsibility handed over to the State, and the commensurate tax to support it, is one of a thousand cuts which slowly but surely strip away our freedom to live our lives as we choose.
JR likes to fanticize about keeping the “enemy” in our sights. Never forget that, as much as government may be, in Thomas Paine’s words, a necessary evil, it is indeed ultimately an evil; a cancer which eats away at productivity and freedom.
May not be “woman or African American”, but both.
“The vision of a pen full of pigs fighting over a chicken carcass comes to mind….”
Granted who would want the pigstye bush had made of the economy, budget, and foreign affairs?
The Repubs. should be stuck with it.
I think more than anything, with this drama thats been going on, the democratic side is helping McCain out. I’ve never seen so much shit slinging going on, it seems like Clinton and Obama are some toddlers throwing kitty poop at one another in a sand box.
Phantom
……and it’s all Bush’s fault……….that the Democrats are trying to eat one another…..yeah.
“But this messy nominating process has eroded the standing of both candidates.”
Really? The “nominating process” has eroded their standing?
Blaming someone else again?
They did it to themselves, by exposing their true selves thru attacks on the other.
You really want 4 years of this crap with Obama?
You ain’t seen nuthing yet.
LLTVET
Posted June 3, 2008 at 12:39 pm | Permalink
Regular: I will assume that Halliburton has no need for the Bituminous coal that you spoke of 3 weeks ago
(chortle)
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Still sore about being proven wrong on basic facts eh? :cool:
Misogyny is NOT AT ALL more imaginary than real. Figures it’d be a man saying that crap. I’ve seen it, I’ve lived it, women can’t even get a freaking equal rights amendment passed, we’re not equal under the freaking constitution of the US.
“I’ve seen it, I’ve lived it, women can’t even get a freaking equal rights amendment passed.”
Absolutely one of the greatest missed opportunities in American civil rights history.
BUT!!!!!!! We NEED an amendment to prevent the pesky gays from up and marrying.
Our priorities are phucked up, to say the least.
If you dont like the mainstream canidates then vote for bob Barr, or Ralph nader
Sheesh, you throw a no holds barred cage death match,and bitch about it being messy. Politica is a bunch of lawyers who are too lazy to chase ambulances and get their suits and gucci’s dusty.
Well, it’s more less official. On MSNBC’s website, AP is claiming that Obama’s clinched the nom. Evidently, Hillary is open to the veep spot. Of course, her sycophants are claiming it’s all bee-ess.
Let’s hope we’ve heard and seen the last of Rev. Wright. Let’s hope Mr. Obama finds a more genteel pastor with whom to bond.
Most of Osama Obama’s support comes from the guilt-ridden Democratic party that wants a black man to bare the burden of their racists past and they found one that will do so and speaks their progress liberal language in an ‘articulate’ manner.
The Democrats figure if they can nominate a black man, it will relieve them of their chronic racism problems and show they are equal opportunity voters.
Don’t believe me, just make a comment about Obama and the Democratic Obamites cannot restrain themselves in calling anyone a racist who does not bow down to the Barak.
The Democrats have promoted Obama much like the first black quarterback in the NFL. They consider him a franchise politician. Doesn’t matter he has zero executive experience and doesn’t know the difference between 10,000 deaths in Greensburg nor the 57 states he has visited in the United States.
The homes of the caucasian Democratic elites are being redecorated with African artifacts and they are whipping out the old soul LP’s, dancing the ‘nasty bump’ and drinking those 32 ouncers with their homeboys.
Whispered glorious shouts among Washington insiders in Congress are exclaiming, “We have ourselves a Negro to run for President!” As the caucasoids in D.C. are expressing their glee at their good fortune, they are wildly expressing their own ‘blackness’ and decrying any other candidate as an apartheid instilled racist.
Re-analogueing from that movie line of a “Time to Kill,” where Jake Brigance, the novice attorney for Carl Lee Hailey (Samuel L. Jackson), is giving his final summation before the jury;
And when they’re done, after they’ve killed his tiny experience, murdered any chance for him to have a career, to have a political life beyond his own, they decide to use him for target practice. They start throwing full Jeremiah Wright sermons at him. They throw them so hard that it tears the memory from his skull about any Reverend Wright’s sermons. Then they urinate on his Muslim background. Now comes the political hanging. They have a rope. They tie a noose. Imagine the noose going tight around his neck and with a sudden blinding jerk he’s pulled into the air and his feet and political correctness legs go kicking. They don’t find the ground. The hanging branch isn’t strong enough. It snaps and he falls back to the earth politics reality. So they pick him up, throw him in the back of the truck and drive out to Trinity Church. They pitch Obama Gay Support over the edge and it drops some thirty feet down under the anti-gay pulpit below. Can you see him? His politically raped, beaten, broken body soaked in the bomb urine of Weatherman Underground, soaked in their accusations of shakey real estate deals, soaked in his blood of forsaken UCC Ministers, left to die politically. Can you see him? I want you to picture him . Now imagine he’s white.
That’s right, imagine if Obama was white, would the cheers be as loud or the support be as strong.
We all the know the answer to that don’t we?
Political pandering in the old South Democratic Party tradition.
“Most of Osama Obama’s support comes from the guilt-ridden Democratic party that wants a black man to bare the burden of their racists past and they found one that will do so and speaks their progress liberal language in an ‘articulate’ manner.”
Got loose from your handlers again, McCluer? That is an amazingly stupid post. Amazing.
(By the way, it should be “bear the burden” although your version does lend some humor.)
And his name is spelled “Barack.”
But, if the Republican do such a great job with racial issues, why are there so very, very few black Republicans?
Or are you suggesting that the Democrats are masters of brainwashing?
Or are you suggesting that the Democrats are masters of brainwashing?
Cmon WS, you already posted the secret agenda. Of course y’all are masters of brainwashing
:-D
JR likes to fanticize about keeping the “enemy” in our sights. Never forget that, as much as government may be, in Thomas Paine’s words, a necessary evil, it is indeed ultimately an evil; a cancer which eats away at productivity and freedom.
**********
Do you not work for the government? And, if so, if you really believe the above, how do you live with yourself?
Only Jimmy Mac would use the quote of a fictional character on a B movie to make his flight of fantasy point — get back on the meds
… loser
LR@ – that’s all he’s got. Nothing else but his steadfast worship of his boy Bush.
Regular: Why don’t you re-read yesterday’s thread about Rev Wright. There was quite a bit of group therapy, Nathaniel diagnosed with PTSD etc.
People don’t vote for Barack Obama because they feel guilty about slavery. They don’t vote for him because they liked Warren Moon (or whoever you were referring to in the NFL) They don’t vote for Barack Obama because they watched “a time to kill” or read “To kill a mockingbird”
Why don’t you stop practicing psychobabble without a license?
Oh, and I’m not sore about being wrong on a detail. I stood corrected. I just didn’t want your beloved West Virginia folks to get their feelings hurt.
“Barack Obama is expected to secure the Democratic nomination tonight,”
Mmmm
Not exactly.
He MAY get the requisite number of pledge and super delegates. But that’s not an end to it.
The results get vetted in August at the convention.
And so if I am writing Senator Clinton’s speech for this evening?
Thank you Thank you.
Back at the beginning of this campaign, I said, let’s have a dialogue And what a conversation it has been!
(Applause)
Senator Obama has had some things to say and so have I. And in record numbers folks have come out to agree with one or the other of us.
I want to thank Senator Obama for an exhilerarting contest. And now it’s time for all of us to think on what we’ve said, and what we’ve heard. And I will be proud to stand on the floor at the convention in Denver with all of his delegates there and all of my delegates there. And we will make history together as we decide together who will be the next President of the United States!
(Applause)
So I’ll see you all in Denver and may the best woman win!
(thunderous applause)
All I can say is that I’m glad there are actually candidates. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to deal with the Bushllit legacy we’re up to our necks in!
“So I’ll see you all in Denver and may the best woman win!
(thunderous applause)”
Is Senator Clinton going to campaign nationally against McCain for the next 3 months?
CYNTHIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://mckinney2008.com/PRESIDENT/
She’s the best of all worlds. Black, female and smart as a whip. And she’s not afraid of the devil himself!
She would be REAL change!
I’m not ready for Cynthia just yet farmgrrl.
Senator Clinton is carrying the fight forward!
Farm Gal,
Cynthia McKinney? All I can say is that when the Green Party nominates a black candidate, we’ve truly achieved a colorblind society.
“Senator Clinton is carrying the fight forward!”
You remind me of the Monty Python skit where the man tries to return a dead parrot and the shop keeper insists the bird still alive.
Obama’s the man, JR…sometimes accepting reality is a good thing, y’know.
Don’t you have some homeless people to bag on Mary?
Truly you eptitomize the worst in Obama supporters. I’m happy to tell you, Obama will never be President.
Wow junior, first republicans are the enemy and must be destroyed. Now you turn on Obama supporters. Pretty soon you may only have yourself left. You might just be there right now. Sad thing that. Americans are Americans. Full of differing ideas. That is what makes this country as great as it is. Too bad you can’t see that.
I think he’s already pretty much alone…some people only can only energize themselves with anger and resentment. Go away JR, some of us WANT to work toward solutions, not just sit around bitching about the problems.
The Democrats don’t need people with such negative, hateful, and antagonistic attitudes.
BTW, JR…what have YOU done with YOUR free time to help the homeless and underserved today? Let’s compare your list with mine.