“Do white right-wing preachers have it easier than black left-wing preachers? Is there a double standard?†E.J. Dionne asked in the Washington Post. He noted that the Revs. Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson made even more divisive comments after Sept. 11 than the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, yet GOP politicians still sought their endorsements. The Rev. John Hagee has made many offensive comments, yet John McCain spent a year trying to get Hagee’s endorsement. “It’s entirely true that Wright’s foolishness is a bigger deal because of his long-standing relationship with Obama,†Dionne wrote. Still, he said, “the question is whether we will be just as tough on false prophets who happen to be white and right-wing.â€
Registered?
Commenting on WE Blog now requires you to be a Kansas.com member. Use the links above to register, if you haven't already, or to log in.Contact us
Follow us
Daily Archives
-
Recent Comments
- Monkeyhawk on Minority status in Senate; majority approval at home
- JWink on Jail consultants straining patience
- Monkeyhawk on Health care reform would save state money
- Monkeyhawk on Health care reform would save state money
- satatom on Open thread 11/22
- satatom on Health care reform would save state money
- XXX on Open thread 11/22
- JWink on Health care reform would save state money
- Monkeyhawk on Open thread 11/22
- Monkeyhawk on Open thread 11/22
252 Comments
Absolutely. It’s a huge double standard because lets face it, white racism is still alive and well, and they are scared to death that blacks are going to be equally powerful someday.
Lets talk frankly about what they’re really afraid of- that someone is going to treat them as badly as they’ve treated blacks….from housing discrimination to job discrimination.
I’ve heard one person even complain that he fought for black rights…until he was rejected for a job years ago to affirmative action. Well, gee. You lost ONE job, and yet, how many jobs did that black guy get passed up for?
LOL only in Politics can it be that some would not vote for a candidate that is not openly religious. Yet other will not vote for someone because they are known to have attended the same church for twenty years!
This dead horse is being beaten so much we are going from tenderizing the meat to trying for bone meal!
Can I let you in on a little secret? I hear that Hillary once sat and watched a speech made by Hitler! OMG does that mean she agree with what he said? AND-AND John Mc Cain back in the seventies spend some time with people that were… Wait… Wait… Communists!
You know perhaps there is a closer tie to the Weathermen than Obama will admit! I bet it could have came in handy to have an eight y.o. to get those bombs into the tight spaces! And Hillary, well she is tied to those Arkansans and us Kansans know what their like! Mc Cain could have meant to be shot down! How else could he explained having a black child? And this is just shocking! It is rumored that all three have had SEX! What you think the children were adopted?
Yeah forget about the times, Post and Eagle…. I get all my news from the most reliable source in print media… THE ENQUIRER! Informed people want to know, not much in reality but they still want to know!
If McCain had been attending a church regularly for 20 years that was led by a person making racist, incendiary sermons, it would be a big deal. He would surely not be a viable candidate for the presidency. The double standard, if there is one, is that Obama is still a legitimate contender despite this association.
Obama is not responsible for everything any black preacher anywhere says, nor is McCain responsible for everything any white preacher anywhere says. Obama isn’t really responsible for what Mr. Wright, specifically, says, but the fact that they had a close relationship for so many years does reflect on his judgment.
RobertL,
Applause…Applause…Applause…Standing ovation!
RobertL and Boxlock…what church(es) do you attend?
There is no double standard with respect to Wright.
If a white preacher said the things Rev. Jeremiah Wright said most would get up and leave and he’d have no one to ‘preach’ to the next ’service’.
The fact they didn’t, and don’t, and that Obama listened to that tripe for 20+ years speaks volumes.
Two days after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, Jerry Falwell, appearing on Pat Robertson’s “700 Club,” declared: “I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way — all of them who have tried to secularize America — I point the finger in their face and say, ‘You helped this happen.’ “
Is this the church RobertL and Boxlock go to?
Don’t know…they haven’t said. They apparently approve of that message.
Spot on RobertL. Your post says everything that really needs to be said.
The Obama campaign is doing whatever they can to put the Rev Wright matter to bed. But the press just can’t seem to let it fade away. Here, they attempt (lamely)to frame it as a right vs left, black vs white issue.
I bet Obama cringes every time a new story like this comes out.
Racism rears it ugly head this fine Sunday morning with outbursts from outlander, boxlock, and robertl.
Sad that they fail to see their own black souls.
KansasNative sounds an awful lot like CapnAmerica. The nonsense and what not.
Where do you attend church outlander?
(sound of) Frogs croaking…
And perhaps, since you like to throw around labels KansasNative, you’d like to demonstrate your substance. So please, point out my “racist” statement.
I’ll wait over here.
— all of them who have tried to secularize America — I point the finger in their face and say, ‘You helped this happen.’ “
Apparently that includes boxlock, outlander, and robertl (good people afraid to announce their faith and where they practice it).
Still waiting for your pointing out my “racist” statement, KN/CapnA.
God knows who you are outlander and your denials only keep you from the truth of yourself.
It speaks volumes that you cannot answer a simple question like “what is your faith and where do you practice it?”.
Fear is understandable and one day you will no longer fear but enjoy the life God has given you.
I pray every day for all of you that you will know the truth and be free.
….. and boxlock sounds like outlander who sounds like regular who sounds like robert L 4 peas same pod — an in bred mutual admiration society —- whats up cuz……?
incapable of original thought
KansasNaive,
First, I feel absolutely NO OBLIGATION to respond to your personal questions and will not.
Second, those others never said “GOD DAMN AMERICA”. They questioned whether God has turned his back on the United States because of it’s increasingly sinful secular/progressive nature.
Big difference.
Third, the comments condemning Wright have nothing to do with racism and everything to do with treason, and the fact Obama sat and listened to it for so long, which implies agreement.
KansasNaive, have you had your coffee yet, your certainly aren’t thinking clearly yet.
BTW…your support of the Wright controversy is racist. Read the Post article by Dionne.
Your denials are a result of your fear.
Again, there are many here praying for your soul.
Fear Boxlock…that’s what 8 years of President sissyboy has given you.
You are afraid and not free.
BTW, Boxlock.
I know your faith and where you practice it…one day you won’t be afraid to say it yourself.
KansasNaive,
I laugh in your face.
Is yours a cheap and futile attempt at threating me?
Simpleton!
More fear … no truth.
God forbid that some people sound bitter, and cling to their guns, their nativism and their “religion,” such as it might be.
As a previous post asked, what percentage of Americans are so racist and/or sexist they would vote only for a white male? My guess is more than 15 percent and less than 50.
Perhaps a better question would be what % of REPUBLICANS are so racist and/or sexist they would vote only for a white male? My guess is more than 50 per cent but less than 100 per cent.
Frank Rich address this issue in his column today:
http://tinyurl.com/4vvzfd
Good morning Phillip!
Another thread apologizing for, rationalizing for, struggling to explain away a poor bitter left-wing nut of a preacher!
First of all comparing the stupid remarks of Jerry Falwell to the hateful, racist, anti American remarks of the good Rev Wright is a little disingenuous. Falwell is hardly as far to the right as Wright is to the left.
Then to answer the question, “What if Wright were white and right wing?” Simple! The Washington Post would have been criticizing him for the last twenty years with story after sorry story just like they have been covering Falwell.
Wright is more than a harmless liberal preacher. He’s a proponent of black liberation philosophy. His hateful ministry deserves to be examined without being justified with comparison to stupid white men.
In fact, by his own account, Mr. McCain sought out Mr. Hagee, who is perhaps best known for trying to drum up a pre-emptive “holy war” with Iran. (This preacher’s rantings may tell us more about Mr. McCain’s policy views than Mr. Wright’s tell us about Mr. Obama’s.)
Even after Mr. Hagee’s Catholic bashing bubbled up in the mainstream media, Mr. McCain still did not reject and denounce him, as Mr. Obama did an unsolicited endorser, Louis Farrakhan, at the urging of Tim Russert and Hillary Clinton.
Mr. McCain instead told George Stephanopoulos two Sundays ago that while he condemns any “anti-anything” remarks by Mr. Hagee, he is still “glad to have his endorsement.”
Rev. John Hagee, lecturing in front of an enormous diorama. Wielding a pointer, he pokes at the image of a woman with Pamela Anderson-sized breasts, her hand raising a golden chalice. The woman is “the Great Whore,” Mr. Hagee explains, and she is drinking “the blood of the Jewish people.” That’s because the Great Whore represents “the Roman Church,” which, in his view, has thirsted for Jewish blood throughout history, from the Crusades to the Holocaust.
Mr. McCain instead told George Stephanopoulos two Sundays ago that while he condemns any “anti-anything” remarks by Mr. Hagee, he is still “glad to have his endorsement.”
Since then, Mr. McCain has been shocked to learn that his clerical ally has made many other outrageous statements. Mr. Hagee, it’s true, did not blame the American government for concocting AIDS. But he did say that God created Hurricane Katrina to punish New Orleans for its sins, particularly a scheduled “homosexual parade there on the Monday that Katrina came.”
KansasNaive posts;
“15 percent and less than 50″ and “more than 50 per cent but less than 100 per cent.”
Wow…that’s really nailing it down close.
Ridiculous remark there KansasNaive
Mr. McCain instead told George Stephanopoulos two Sundays ago… he is still “glad to have his endorsement.”
” those others never said “GOD DAMN AMERICA”
Ya know? I say that every now and again myself.
“the comments condemning Wright have nothing to do with racism and everything to do with treason,”
Oh come now. That IS a stretch.
Hmm….probably the biggest mental of physical one you will make all day.
“sat and listened to it for so long, which implies agreement.”
Well John McCain keeps close company with ministers who think we are in the “end times”.
Do you tend to agree?
SOME of those ministers even think we should act out foreign policy and military actions to conform with paving the way to Armageddon!
Would I find you and McCain in THAT camp?
All that said, there is only one candidate wihout issues of church mixing with matters of state.
Senator Clinton does not have these radical affiliations.
Tom Friedman in today’s NYT:
—
…Much nonsense has been written about how Hillary Clinton is “toughening up” Barack Obama so he’ll be tough enough to withstand Republican attacks. Sorry, we don’t need a president who is tough enough to withstand the lies of his opponents. We need a president who is tough enough to tell the truth to the American people. Any one of the candidates can answer the Red Phone at 3 a.m. in the White House bedroom. I’m voting for the one who can talk straight to the American people on national TV — at 8 p.m. — from the White House East Room.
Who will tell the people? We are not who we think we are. We are living on borrowed time and borrowed dimes. We still have all the potential for greatness, but only if we get back to work on our country.
I don’t know if Barack Obama can lead that, but the notion that the idealism he has inspired in so many young people doesn’t matter is dead wrong. “Of course, hope alone is not enough,” says Tim Shriver, chairman of Special Olympics, “but it’s not trivial. It’s not trivial to inspire people to want to get up and do something with someone else.”
It is especially not trivial now, because millions of Americans are dying to be enlisted — enlisted to fix education, enlisted to research renewable energy, enlisted to repair our infrastructure, enlisted to help others. Look at the kids lining up to join Teach for America. They want our country to matter again. They want it to be about building wealth and dignity — big profits and big purposes. When we just do one, we are less than the sum of our parts. When we do both, said Shriver, “no one can touch us.”
—
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/opinion/04friedman.html?hp
Boxlock:Wow…that’s really nailing it down close.
Ridiculous remark there KansasNaive
You are right, Republicans are probably 95% racist….
In the 21st century, the so-called party of Lincoln does not have a single African-American among its collective 247 senators and representatives in Washington. Yes, there are appointees like Clarence Thomas and Condi Rice, but, as we learned during the Mark Foley scandal, even gay men may hold more G.O.P. positions of power than blacks.
A near half-century after the civil rights acts of the 1960s, this is quite an achievement. Yet the holier-than-thou politicians and pundits on the right passing shrill moral judgment over every Democratic racial skirmish are almost never asked to confront or even acknowledge the racial dysfunction in their own house.
In our mainstream political culture, this de facto apartheid is simply accepted as an intractable given, unworthy of notice, and just too embarrassing to mention aloud in polite Beltway company. Those who dare are instantly accused of “political correctness” or “reverse racism.”
An all-white Congressional delegation doesn’t happen by accident. It’s the legacy of race cards that have been dealt since the birth of the Southern strategy in the Nixon era.
No one knows this better than Mr. McCain, whose own adopted daughter of color was the subject of a vicious smear in his party’s South Carolina primary of 2000.
Better question.
“What if this story AND McCain’s radical affiliations had come out in December?”
I think that what the thread overlooks the fact that most religous leaders are douchebags anyways. In fact religon of all stripes makes people stupid
“There is no double standard with respect to Wright.
If a white preacher said the things Rev. Jeremiah Wright said most would get up and leave and he’d have no one to ‘preach’ to the next ’service’.
The fact they didn’t, and don’t, and that Obama listened to that tripe for 20+ years speaks volumes.”
That’s bull…Falwell, Robertson..both of them had huge followings no matter how outrageous they became, and Bush was one of them…I really doubt that any one of their congregation walked out after the stupid and ridiculous statements they made. And they were much farther right than Obama is left.
Why can’t we stick to the issues rather than focus on all the stupid stuff that just doesn’t matter? At least Obama has some common sense and he’s not so disingenuous to be shooting guns, throwing back boilermakers, and promising to save Americans $2 every fill at the gas pump for votes.
Let’s focus on the REAL issues…not all these distractions which mean nothing, it doesn’t do a thing to solve our problems.
“RobertL” pontificates –
“…Obama isn’t really responsible for what Mr. Wright, specifically, says, but the fact that they had a close relationship for so many years does reflect on his judgment.”
Hell, my Dad attended the same church for 30 years and half the time was spent debating issues of theology, morality, politics, barbecue recipes…everything. You may go to church for answers. Some people join a church for the questions.
And the thing is, most people join a church, not a pastor. (Albeit, a lot of those mega-church evangelical salvation shopping malls often embrace cult-of-personality trappings about “
BagwanBrother Billy Sol Kindheart.”)For most people church is the people, the fellowship, the reason they show up on Sundays and tithe and sing with the choir.
The Roman Catholic Church had a decades-long problem with pedophile priests. Using your logic, “RobertL,” every Catholic worshiper must be pro-altar-boy-buggering.
Wow.
I gotta say that the odds are ginormous that Wright’s comments will seem merely annoyingly trivial when compared by the twice-born to John Hagee’s book, “In Defense of Israel.” Surely McCain literally hunting down the approval and endorsement of a religious nutcase like Hagee is far worse than Obama’s sitting subject for 20 years to a social nutcase like Wright. At least in certain white enclaves.
For example: Christ didn’t come to earth to become the Messiah?!? Christ refused by “deed” to claim to be the Messiah?!?
I sure can’t claim any expertise on Christian theology, but that all sounds pretty fishy to me. I think if you’re a christian then comments like that’ll earn you some quality time in the hot place (that’s what they told me when I was ten or so, anyway).
The only problem that I see in America today is Republicans following their boy king President Sissypants to hell and trying to drag everybody with them.
That will be taken care of in November.
Then McCain takes over KansasNative
hahahahahahahahahahahah
Thanks for the laugh coot!
:lol:
No wonder the twice-born can’t get excited about McCain.
It’s like McCain decided one day, “gotta find me a fundamentalist, ANY fundamentalist, to fire up the twice-born to the point they’ll literally burn up their shoe leather to get out the vote…for me.”
Ouch. When you look at it that way, McCain does seem something less than inspiring I guess.
Here is another prospective on this, Oh yes it is so much more respectable that Mc Cain would “whore himself” to get a kooky preacher to endorse him! Then for Obama to actually attend a church for twenty years where the preacher is kooky! It makes as much sense as the pimp husband who was divorcing his whore wife for having sex and not demanding money up front.
But seriously kansasnative, look from which we get to choose. Hillary, who cant spell truth, Obama, the closet racist or McCain the hothead.
I just now got the connection!
Rev. John Hagee, lecturing in front of an enormous diorama. Wielding a pointer, he pokes at the image of a woman with Pamela Anderson-sized breasts, her hand raising a golden chalice. The woman is “the Great Whore,”
John Sydney McBush has a fetish for big breasted women…no wonder he picked Hagee. Only bad boy John would call her the Great C***.
Obama is no more responsible for Rev. Wright than any of us. Look at what Obama has done that last several weeks. He has worked to distance himself from the fine Reverend. No one should forget, he is a politician first. Rev. Wright is going to hurt Obama because he has realized he is now on the national stage. He will use Obama to further his own personal cause.
Obama is a politician on the national stage. If he gets slammed, don’t cry racism is the cause; he chose to get into a very vicious game. He deserves everything he is getting. If the super delegates vote against him, it’s politics, not racism. It’s all politics.
Fallwell and Roberts are just as egotistical. Why isn’t there much fanfare when a white preacher does this? There isn’t someone standing in front of a camera screaming, “Racist.” Not everything that happens to a black man at the hands of a white man is racism. Maybe bad things happen to good people. Racism isn’t going to go away until people like Rev. Wright let it go.
KansasNaive posts;
“An all-white Congressional delegation doesn’t happen by accident.”
No it doesn’t, it results from the abuse a black candidate takes from his own people and the DemLib. party if he even attempts to run. And that he/she gets voted down by those same racists.
How is it Democrats and liberals are responsible for the racism in the Republican party?
Ya can’t circle that square.
As evidenced by the puffery of the sanctimonious white Republican bigots on this thread, f course there’s a double standard. Bill Moyers puts it so perfectly that it would be redundant for me to add a word:
**************************************************
http://www.alternet.org/election08/84330/?page=2
“Behold the double standard: John McCain sought out the endorsement of John Hagee, the warmongering, Catholic-bashing Texas preacher, who said the people of New Orleans got what they deserved for their sins.
But no one suggests McCain shares Hagee’s delusions or thinks AIDS is God’s punishment for homosexuality. Pat Robertson called for the assassination of a foreign head of state and asked God to remove Supreme Court justices, yet he remains a force in the Republican religious right.
After 9/11, Jerry Falwell said the attack was God’s judgment on America for having been driven out of our schools and the public square, but when McCain goes after the endorsement of the preacher he once condemned as an agent of intolerance, the press gives him a pass.
Jon Stewart recently played tape from the Nixon White House in which Billy Graham talks in the Oval Office about how he has friends who are Jewish, but he knows in his heart that they are undermining America.
This is crazy and wrong — white preachers are given leeway in politics that others aren’t.
Which means it is all about race, isn’t it?
Wright’s offensive opinions and inflammatory appearances are judged differently. He doesn’t fire a shot in anger, put a noose around anyone’s neck, call for insurrection, or plant a bomb in a church with children in Sunday school.
What he does is to speak his mind in a language and style that unsettles some people, and says some things so outlandish and ill-advised that he finally leaves Obama no choice but to end their friendship.”
*****************************************
Watching the bigots hide behind their bigoted code language, while getting up in arms about bigotry they perceive as directed at them kind of tells you everything you need to know about the level of hypocrisy white Republicans have over race.
Boxlock,
So African Americans are so stupid that they vote for whomever liberal white Democrats tell them to?
That’s patronizing, racist AND stupid, Boxlock. I’d call that a Wingnut Trifecta.
I guess since each of us is perfect and our opinion the only acceptable one we should be able to criticize everyone else, everything they’ve ever done personally and hold them responsible for the actions and words of every person they’ve ever known. Boy, I’m glad none of us has ever done anything we need to be held accountable for. ‘Cause ya know, glass houses and all that.
What a ridiculous topic.
Let’s see,
What if Martin Luther King were a white man?
What if Timothy McVeigh was a liberal professor and 20 years later stated he didn’t regret the bombing (re: Weathermen)
What if Obama were a Republican and spoke in the same manner with the same ideas, would he be accused of being an Uncle Tom by the left?
What if Hagee were black and spoke of the U.S. of KKK of A and the United States invented the AIDS virus to infect black people?
Ridiculous hypotheticals all, just like the heading topic question poses.
The American Family Association said nutty things like you can catch AIDS from porn box covers. Wright said the government spread AIDS intentionally (their spreading of AIDS was merely through neglect and a desire that it would only affect gays).
Of course AFA is considered acceptable since they are on the Reich side of crazy, not the Wright side of crazy.
I think the press has beaten this whole subject to death…and Wright is reveling in it. He certainly loves being the center of attention, doesn’t he?
I think it’s time to ignore the a**hole and move on to a relevent issue.
Maggotpunk,
Indeed. And what the white racists Repukes on the board want to conceal is that the U.S. Government did, in fact, without informing them or getting their consent, allow 399 black men with syphillis to go untreated for FORTY YEARS, in order to study the effects of syphillis. This was called the “Tuskegee Experiment,” Wingnuts. Read up: it’s part of America’s proud racist history.
“By 1947 penicillin had become the standard treatment for syphilis. Prior to this discovery, syphilis frequently led to a chronic, painful and fatal multisystem disease. Rather than treat all syphilitic subjects with penicillin and close the study, or split off a control group for testing penicillin; the Tuskegee scientists withheld penicillin and information about penicillin, purely to continue to study how the disease spreads and kills. Participants were also prevented from accessing syphilis treatment programs that were available to other people in the area. The study continued until 1972, when a leak to the press resulted in its termination.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Study_of_Untreated_Syphilis_in_the_Negro_Male
Or, for that matters, there was the “Cincinnati Experiments,” in which poor Cincinnatians, 2/3 of whom were African-American, were non-consensually exposed to high doses of radiation. Given Cincinnati’s racial divisions and violent legacy, there’s no doubt about a link to racism.
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2002/03/26/tem_book_revisits_uc.html
Yet you racist Wingnuts act as if there’s no historical precedent for Rev. Wright’s accusations, regardless of whether they are true or false. But given your collective ignorance, hypocrisy, and bad faith, maybe the omission isn’t such a surprise.
And as is often the case, Barbara over at Mahablog has a nice takedown of the racist hissy-fits and pearl clutching of the sort we’ve seen on this blog.
“It’s all about fear. Righties base their political choices on what they fear. At the same time, they are drawn to what they fear; they obsess over what they fear. Because they are afraid of angry black men, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright is a big deal to them. He excites them because he vindicates them.
On the whole, the Left doesn’t react the same way to right-wing craziness. That’s partly because there’s so much of it, of course. We hear about a Republican politician associating with an extremist religious whackjob, and we think, What else is new? And news media, which has bought into the narrative that “religion” is something the Right holds a patent on, doesn’t ask questions about the religiosity of the Right. It’s only a “story” when it’s about the Left.”
http://mahablog.com/
“We hear about a Republican politician associating with an extremist religious whackjob, and we think, What else is new?”
—————–
Key word: THINK.
Those who are capable see this for what it is, those who aren’t capable…
Hey CF2K, Muppet Poster, Theodore Kaszinski wanna-be…
The Tuskegee Experiments happened on the Democratic Congress Party watch and mostly Democratic Party Presidents. Tuskegee Experiment was a clinical study, conducted between 1932 and 1972 in Tuskegee, Alabama
So, that finger you’ve been pointing, there’s three fingers and a thumb pointing right back at ya.
So how about a little less B.S. Muppet Head CF2K.
Your B.S. is getting so outrageous, you are now worthy of scroll over by all.
Ad hominem attack #1 from Reguliar.
“Boxlock” fantasizes –
“…it results from the abuse a black candidate takes from his own people and the DemLib. party if he even attempts to run. And that he/she gets voted down by those same racists.”
I think about J.C. Watts. He talked the talk and walked the walk but eventually realized he was a token pawn in the Republic Party strategy.
However sincere he might have been with his conservative beliefs, he was trotted out as the minority spokesman of conservatism only when there was a race angle to the issue. He was called out to dance like a minstrel on cue for the quadrennial sop the GOP gives to counter its obvious institutional racism.
Watts’ daddy once said, “A black man who’s for the Republicans is like a chicken who’s for Colonel Sanders.” His kid finally got the message. And retired from Congress.
KansasNative
Posted May 4, 2008 at 12:56 pm | Permalink
Ad hominem attack #1 from Reguliar.
———————–
Hmmm, I think KansasNative might be CraponAmerica.
There are only two posters, thus far, that have called me Reguliar.
Is CraponAmerica, the hypocrite of many NICS, posting yet under another NIC?
Watch him deny it and watch KansasNative refuse to tell who he was on the old blog.
Both are cowards you know and won’t fess up, they like hiding behind the skirts of their computers.
Ad hominem attack # 2 from Reguliar.
KansasNative
Posted May 4, 2008 at 1:03 pm | Permalink
Ad hominem attack # 2 from Reguliar.
—————-
coward
Would you tell us again how distasteful it is to you when you’re accused of being more than one nic day after day?
Ad hominem attack # 3 from Reguliar.
I’m praying for you too Reguliar. Drop your fear and be free!
Yeah, lindainks…
Be accused of being other posters for over a year and a half and see how much you like it.
Of course, I won’t expect any sympathy from you and you have already shown your bare ass aggression towards others who don’t share your narrowed view of life.
So, unless your CraponAmercia, Kansasnative or CF2K, kindly butt out of this dialog. I can handle it myself.
Of course, if you do continue, then you are admitting you are one of the three in my book.
Oh, I was Pepper.
Guess you don’t.
KansasNative
Posted May 4, 2008 at 1:11 pm | Permalink
Ad hominem attack # 3 from Reguliar.
I’m praying for you too Reguliar. Drop your fear and be free!
———————-
The new and reigning champion of WE Blog cowards – kansasnative.
How do you like your new title Ksnative?
The resident blog coward – feel free to donn your chicken suit with the stripe down the back.
bawk bawk bawk…
Ad hominem attacks continue…there goes # 4!
#5.
KansasNative
Posted May 4, 2008 at 1:12 pm | Permalink
Oh, I was Pepper.
——————
Ah, one of the many nics of one of the Libs, who never confessed to multiple nics.
Still a coward and a lightweight in the mental category.
Hmmmm wonder why there is no Open Thread today??
There isn’t one for today, but there is one for tomorrow. Scroll down to find it. ;-)
I’m sure glad that Reguliar went to church this morning. I think it prepared him for the hate and bile he’s belching right now.
God loves you Reguliar.
Chas
Posted May 4, 2008 at 1:16 pm | Permalink
Hmmmm wonder why there is no Open Thread today??
————————
Wichita Eagle appears to have employed an amateur programmer.
If you check the archives, you’ll find the open thread for 5/5 is missing and one of the designated topics, this one I believe, is now archived in the open category.
They must have got their blog programmer from the Computer Challenged School of the Illiterate.
Between Open Thread 5/2 and Coverage More Sizzle Than Steak is tomorrow. It might be a perfect place for tomorrow the way today is going.
White pastors get ten times the tromping from anti-social comments. It’s just now starting to affect balck pastors, too.
Sure, it’s not Obama’s fault that Wright is a racist nut but he should have distanced himself earlier instead of making the idiotic comment that he couldn’t disown him.
He may live to regret his “audacity.” ha
On the other hand, McCain may be seeking endorsements from some who have made crappy comments but McCain has been VERY quick to denounce such comments.
Obama’s hesitancy is the problem.
Well, I see it is time for a nap… Looks like this thread has turned into Open Thread for today LOL
Shery_n_Shad
Posted May 4, 2008 at 1:29 pm | Permalink
“On the other hand, McCain may be seeking endorsements from some who have made crappy comments but McCain has been VERY quick to denounce such comments.”
Not true obviously:
In fact, by his own account, Mr. McCain sought out Mr. Hagee, who is perhaps best known for trying to drum up a pre-emptive “holy war” with Iran. (This preacher’s rantings may tell us more about Mr. McCain’s policy views than Mr. Wright’s tell us about Mr. Obama’s.)
Even after Mr. Hagee’s Catholic bashing bubbled up in the mainstream media, Mr. McCain still did not reject and denounce him, as Mr. Obama did an unsolicited endorser, Louis Farrakhan, at the urging of Tim Russert and Hillary Clinton.
Mr. McCain instead told George Stephanopoulos two Sundays ago that while he condemns any “anti-anything” remarks by Mr. Hagee, he is still “glad to have his endorsement.”
The hilarious thing is that by that comparing Wright to this guy or that that, or better yet, trying to justify what he said, the smug insulting liberals here are doing their part to keep the controversy alive and the damage piling up.
Hillary and John thank you. Keep up the good work.
What counts is what will happen to John Sydney McBush a few months from now.
That is when the true hilarity will start.
It makes me giggle now to think of what’s in store for the thousand year war candidate.
On the other hand, McCain may be seeking endorsements from some who have made crappy comments but McCain has been VERY quick to denounce such comments.
Obama’s hesitancy is the problem.
————
BULL F”N SHEET! McCain hasn’t even touched on it! He USED to and now he wants their endorsements so he now smiles and agrees.
There aren’t any videos of McCain’s church but there are plenty of videos of Bush’s buddies like Robertson and Falwell, matter of fact Bush has loaded down the Judicial branch and Executive branch with strong evangelical based graduates.
If McCain wins, those people get to keep their jobs, based solely on which fundy school they graduated from. SO don’t give me that crap.
“What if Timothy McVeigh was a liberal professor.”
Billy Ayers did not kill 168 innocent people – he didn’t kill anyone.
“Ah, one of the many nics of one of the Libs, who never confessed to multiple nics.”
JM, Republikhan, Blog Monitor. Republican, James McCluer, Eier, TT, Regular, etc. etc. etc.
Whatever.
Hypocrisy, thy name is McCluer.
Ayers has never been convicted of a crime.
TT?
Now that’s a new one. Who is TT?
Oh btw, CraponAmerica still holds the record for the WE Blog for the number of nics used and switched.
So the phrase,
Hypocrisy, thy name is
applies more to the Crapn, because is the record holding nic switcher and liar on this blog.
Gosh, Ben, you listen to some of the Reich Wingers, you would think Ayers is still a wanted man or Treason or some such thing… LOL
bth
Posted May 4, 2008 at 3:15 pm | Permalink
Ayers has never been convicted of a crime.
——————–
Neither has Osama Bin Laden.
Doesn’t mean that complicity in the acts didn’t involve Ayers by method, design or support.
Always thought Ayers case was dimissed by a Court… Cant say the same about Bin Ladin
But what does Ayers have to do with THIS thread, anyway??
“Oh btw, CraponAmerica still holds the record for the WE Blog for the number of nics used and switched.”
Damn, McCluer, you even made up a nic to compliment yourself on being the “leader of the conservative movement on the blog.”
If that is not some kind of record, I don’t know what would be.
If you look in the urban dictionary for “nic switcher” you’ll find a picture of Mississippi Jim McCluer.
If you look in the urban dictionary for WSClark, you’ll find it under “Chronic Alcoholic.”
Regular
Posted May 4, 2008 at 11:57 am | Permalink
————————-
Your day will come Crapn.
When I find out your real name and address. I will insure every “swinging Ricardo” knows what an Internet arch loch you are. I will post it here, on private Websites, notify your friends, family and anyone generally interested.
You will rue the day you even tested my will. The clock is ticking on the unrepentant CraponAmerica.
____________________
What’s a “swinging Ricardo”? and “arch loch”?
SPIN SPIN SPIN. How easy it is to spin. The favorite spin of the fundies is this 20 year thing. OK, I will play along. That would make Obama 26 years old when he showed the so called “poor judgment” of beginning a association with Wright. Now we have someone in their 70s, supposedly older and wiser being associated with another controversial religious figure. You see how easy it was to spin. Don’t tell me, let me guess, we need to wait 20 years first. Now why don’t we stay on topic and you tell me how Hagee is acceptable and Wright is unacceptable. No spin about 20 years. How is Hagee acceptable if Wright is not. Remember, ONE STANDARD, not a double standard.
Native, what Thread is that from, please? Thanks!!
Chas
Speed and motorcycles kill…
Nasty and vile stuff huh?!
Native —
Uh huh… quite!!
Native, it seems to have been “removed” by the Editors!! Amazing!!
Never mind Native — I found it!!
My goof!! — But maybe it should have been removed by the Editors… looks like a personal threat to me!!
Hmmm…
it’s still there Chas almost to the bottom between two posts by Mary.
Look again please.
So right Chas…worst I’ve ever seen on a blog.
I’ll call Brownlee Monday and complain.
Doesn’t anyone from Kansas realize that the Republicans would rather have McCain running against Hilary than Obama.. so the powers that be..will keep Rev. Wright in the news as long as possible. They know Obama truly has the best interests of the American citizens in his heart. The Clintons will be easy to take down with their history…not so Obama. Give the young people of this country a chance…get rid of the old, “experienced”, politicos now.
But anyway…what the hell is a “swinging Ricardo” and an “arch loch”?
The first seems like maybe an ethnic slur, the second a typo?
KansasNative
Posted May 4, 2008 at 4:20 pm | Permalink
So right Chas…worst I’ve ever seen on a blog.
I’ll call Brownlee Monday and complain.
———————–
Go ahead and complain wussy, it won’t save the Crapn.
Notice how duh Libs give the Crapn excuses posting people’s private data online, but when he gets shackled to the same wall, his tattle tale wussy friends go cry to momma Brownlee.
Such wimps and girly men.
Jackie, you may be right but the polls from Oregon seem to indicate that Obama isn’t getting support from the young.
Hillary is getting the support there from those with income under $40,000 and that would be most young people.
Oregon is a pretty liberal state too!
Also, Hillary has been tested and vetted over and over again and still is doing well even among Republicans who do not want a hundred year war in Iraq.
She does well among Catholics who are overwelmingly Republican.
KansasNative
Posted May 4, 2008 at 4:22 pm | Permalink
But anyway…what the hell is a “swinging Ricardo” and an “arch loch”?
The first seems like maybe an ethnic slur, the second a typo?
————————-
I’d explain it to you, but subtle humor loses its effect on simple minds.
I see the troll-boy, McLiar, is at it again today.
A “Swinging Ricardo” sounds strangely akin to a “Dirty Sanchez,” which might reveal another one of “Regular’s” favorite obsessions.
“Such wimps and girly men.”
At least we are not virgins.
“As I said you DemLibs represent the antithesis of those moral laws.” [Boxlock]
And exactly what would you offer as proof of this rather biased statement?? Hmmmm??
J.C. Watts had a safe congressional district in Oklahoma. He talked the talk and did his best to walk the walk until he realized he wasn’t going to climb any higher in the Republic Party hierarchy. So he quit.
————–
BS… I dare you , MonkeyHawk, to show us any evidence that J.C. Watts left public life for the reason you stated. I dare you.
Why again did you call Clarence Thomas “Scalia’s BOY” if you aren’t a racist?
And thank all of you for keeping this Rev Wright – Barack Obama association on the front burner.
We all know MonkeyHock is a racist there Outlander.
He loves using the “N” word at every opportunity and for some reason he knows all the key issues on the subject.
Quite telling about his racist views and attitude.
Let’s see now…ad hominem attack # 15 or 16?
It must be a sad life you lead to hate so much.
God loves you Reguliar and one day you will stop being afraid and you will know the truth.
Chas Posted May 4, 2008 at 5:21 pm |
“As I said you DemLibs represent the antithesis of those moral laws.” [Boxlock]
“And exactly what would you offer as proof of this rather biased statement?? Hmmmm??”
Chas, just read the posts on this blog for your answer.
Responsibility:
You may not compel another’s labor, or steal from it.
The redistribution of wealth, affirmative action, excessive welfare at a cost to someone else = stealing! The DemLibs advocate it.
Defense:
The denial of one’s right to same = the continual attempt at restrictive gun laws. DemLibs advocate it.
Defense of others, violation of the defense of the innocent and helpless = abortion. The DemLibs advocate it.
Self-sufficiency:
Responsibility for yourself (thoughts, actions, being, one’s own welfare, not coveting others things and labors = not stealing and coveting. The DemLibs advocate it.
All these negative aspects presented have repeatedly been advocated by the DemLibs over and over, who then claim anyone not agreeing is selfish and evil. Worse yet they make these things apart of their political platform to buy votes from those who are duped into thinking they will be getting something FREE or gaining freedom.
Chas, it’s spring outside, in case you hadn’t noticed, oh…excuse me, let me use a term from the DemLib bible, the ‘Anthropogenic Global Warming’ is increasing rapidly, and I’ve got better things to do than ‘play’ in here.
I would like to respect you, or anyone, when requested to respond to what I post, but to tell you the truth I’m starting to feel like I am playing in the dirt with some of these folks, and it’s making me feel dirty. I don’t like that, and no one is going to ‘enlighten’ or change anyone’s mind anyway, so the only entertainment is negatively attaching others and that’s dirty.
I may be back later….then again maybe not, we’ll see.
Boxlock — you didnt provide any proof except for your previous line of BS!! You sound like a good ol’ John Bircher!! LOL
“The denial of one’s right to same = the continual attempt at restrictive gun laws. DemLibs advocate it.”
Which Democrat Candidate has proposed any restrictive gun laws in this campaign?? Can you name one??
“Responsibility:
You may not compel another’s labor, or steal from it. The redistribution of wealth, affirmative action, excessive welfare at a cost to someone else = stealing! The DemLibs advocate it.”
Where do you Right Wingers keep coming up with this total nonsense about “redistribution of wealth” — And what is WRONG pray tell, with affirmative action??
[scratching head] Opposing affirmative action is at the least borderline racist commentary..
The only redistribution of wealth that I see is from the pockets of the poor and middle class to Cheney’s bosses at Halliburton.
Chas, your arguments is disingenuous and you are also lazy.
I stated where you can find ‘proof’, its all over the blog, I’m not taking my time to entertain you. You go look….it’s all there.
Much of the DemLibs make-up, their political platform, philosophy, et al. is a lie and immoral.
You go check it out. Like I said though, you won’t change me and I realize I won’t change you if you don’t want to be.
A snake is just always going to be a snake when it comes to the worst of the DemLibs.
I don’t think much of the concept of eternal predestination but the DemLibs make for a pretty good argument that some people are just inherently evil and always will be.
Now that ought to get a rise going…see, I can’t help it, it’s just to much fun, and so predictable, how the DemLibs respond. Watch. Like very simple but repulsive organisms.
Where do you Right Wingers keep coming up with this total nonsense about “redistribution of wealth” — And what is WRONG pray tell, with affirmative action??
According to that Black Minister I referenced the other day, Affirmative Action means that as a Black Man you are admitting inferiority and cannot make it on your own merit.
His words, not mine.
KansasNaive, yeah….but you’re blind.
KansasNative
Posted May 4, 2008 at 6:19 pm | Permalink
Let’s see now…ad hominem attack # 15 or 16?
It must be a sad life you lead to hate so much.
God loves you Reguliar and one day you will stop being afraid and you will know the truth.
————–
Here count this and rotate on it.
(holds up middle finger and swirls it around)
I have to assume, Boxlock, that since you refer to the posts on the Blog to prove your point, that you really dont have anything except to say that is what you happen to “believe”…. Thats fine… Just say it that way… I prefer to have some kind of proof to take any body seriously that chooses to make the kind of accusatory statements you have made here, and not to mention that you didnt even bother to answer my two direct challenges… Have a nice evening, Boxlock… BTW, you might check out the Wisconsin Synod… They are much more conservative than the MO Synod… Oh, and there would also be the Association of Free Lutherans… more conservative yet… :-)
Maybe they have robe rental in Wisconsin?
And then Reguliar you can eat it correct?
Sad little single man.
Boxlock, why is it that those with whom you disagree, are named, by you, as Evil?? What kind of self-righteous, self-appointed, superior existence gives you such a right as determining that??
You know, those with whom you disagree could just as easily determine that YOU are the Great Satan… Such as what the radical Islamists call the West (and US in particular)…
James, I DO hope you plan on washing your middle finger… my goodness!! Such a vile person!!
They are grumpy, but hey, their nominee is decided and BOTH those who may be the Democratic Parties nominee is betting theirs in head-to-head matches. Maybe with any luck the most vile will just disappear as their political fortunes worsen.
betting = beating.
I wouldnt count on that, Linda… but, its a nice thought :-D
But with our new format we do have the poster’s nic listed first — that helps!
You are right Linda in that the Republicans have picked a loser and the posters here know it.
Remember Bob Dole in 1996? He was a wash from the gitgo.
Native — Do you remember what Dole said when he madE HIS CONCESSION SPEECH TO cLINTON?? how he vowed to do anything possible to bring doiwn the clinton presidency??
Chas I don’t remember that. Ol’ Bob just didn’t git her done though did he?
Close..but Clinton survived.
The thought occurs to me he may just have given it a good ol’ “true blue” KS try!! (as in the color of a certain dress)
Ooops! Open Thread 5/5 is history.
By the way Reguliar, did your poopsicle taste good?
Of course it didn’t stink since I made it for ya!
” They don’t believe blacks can make it without their enslaving entitlement packages camouflaged as affirmative action, welfare, etc.
Republicans are equal opportunity assholes.
They demand EVERYONE suck up to some exploiter for their sustenance. The prime reason for this is that at their base they ARE the exploiters.
“Do not steal”
This is misinterpreted. Scolars believe the original meaning here was far less solid.
For instance, a hungry person would not be sinning or breaking God’s laws if he went into another man’s field and ate his crops. This was not considered stealing.
Blue Jay points out >>>>
“For instance, a hungry person would not be sinning or breaking God’s laws if he went into another man’s field and ate his crops. This was not considered stealing.”
Reference: The Book of Ruth — O. T.
Heh heh.
Regular is pretty much what you think he would look like from his posts here.
oooooohhhhhhh
BlueJay posts:
“For instance, a hungry person would not be sinning or breaking God’s laws if he went into another man’s field and ate his crops. This was not considered stealing.”
What a crock of stink….he would be put to death.
The reference, I think, Chas refers to in Ruth doesn’t give permission to steal. Here what Ruth Chapter 2 basically says;
Naomi and Ruth return to Bethlehem at barley harvest time. They’re flat broke. Ruth goes to glean in the fields, collecting the grain left behind by the harvesters. (Leviticus, Chapter 19, orders farmers to leave gleanings for the poor. This is one of many examples of Ruth showing us Bible laws in practice.) Ruth doesn’t yet know it, but she happens to glean the field of Boaz, a relative of Naomi’s dead husband Elimelech. (Like all good love stories, Ruth begins with a case of confused identity.) Boaz shows up in the field and hears that Naomi’s daughter-in-law has been gleaning. He immediately invites her to drink his water and glean from all his fields. He calls her “daughter”—another brilliant plot device since it distracts us from the idea that they could ever marry. She asks why he’s being so kind to a stranger, and he says he heard how good she was to his kinswoman Naomi. He invites her to eat and drink with him and quietly orders his workers to leave extra stalks so she can glean more.
She is given permission, get it permission. And they are only to take the gleanings, that which is left AFTER the harvest.
Guys, are you that ignorant of this stuff, please get a guide and read it for yourself.
JR, quit trying to shape the world and scripture into what you want it to say to give you permission to live off others. It ain’t gone’a happen.
BlueJay
Posted May 4, 2008 at 8:29 pm | Permalink
Heh heh.
Regular is pretty much what you think he would look like from his posts here.
———————–
Yeah, Junior aka J R aka Bluejay aka JBird was too chicken and not man enough to stop by at the meetup.
So the only thing the coward BlueJay has to do is insult behind his computer screen.
And he has proven himself a coward many times over. The biggest chicken on the blog, besides Clark who won’t even show up for a meet up anytime anyplace, so he makes up places he was supposed to be.
Boxlock, the growers are committed by LAW to permit the poor to glean in the fields… AND they are committed by LAW to leave some of their crop behind for the gleaners…
So, essentially what Blue Jay says is true… but you insist on putting a spin on it that isnt in the Text…
Basically, Ruth and Naomi chose to be bag ladies of Jerusalem, if you would, rather than be Slaves in Moab.
Link:
http://www.moriel.org/articles/sermons/book_of_ruth.htm
And she departed and went and gleaned in the field after the reapers; and she happened to come to the portion of the field belonging to Boaz, who was of the family of Elimelech.
Now behold, Boaz came from Bethlehem and said to the reapers, “May the Lord be with you.” And they said to him, “May the Lord bless you.”
Then Boaz said to his servant who was in charge of the reapers, “Whose young woman is this?”
And the servant in charge of the reapers answered and said, “She is the young Moabite woman who returned with Naomi from the land of Moab. And she said, “Please let me glean and gather after the reapers among the sheaves.’ Thus she came and has remained from the morning until now; she has been sitting in the house for a little while.”
Then Boaz said to Ruth, “Listen care-fully, my daughter. Do not go to glean in another field; furthermore, do not go on from this one, but stay here with my maids. Let your eyes be on the field which they reap, and go after them. Indeed, I have commanded the servants not to touch
you. When you are thirsty, go to the water jars and drink from what the servants draw.”
They were to leave what was left after the harvest, there was never permission to steal. They could not go into another man’s field and eat his crops, only what was left.
Chas is full of beans as usual, boxlock was accurate on his description. Of course, Chas is too scared too announce his name on the blog, so we can look for proof of his ordination that he claims to have.
Gleaning defined;
1. To gather after a reaper; to collect in scattered or
fragmentary parcels, as the grain left by a reaper, or
grapes left after the gathering.
[1913 Webster]
“JR, quit trying to shape the world and scripture into what you want it to say to give you permission to live off others.”
Nah. You’re the one tried to use it to justify forcing people to work FOR others.
And it was not my meetup so not my call on meeting you. But I was there.
Boxlock states >>>>
“They could not go into another man’s field and eat his crops, only what was left.”
That is exactly what I already said… SO, if regular things I am wrong, then Boxlock must also be wrong… LOL :-D
What a racist and biased statment by the Wichita Eagle!
“What if Wright were white and right wing?”
What difference does color and political direction make?
To the Eagle, EVERYTHING.
BlueJay
Posted May 4, 2008 at 9:03 pm | Permalink
“JR, quit trying to shape the world and scripture into what you want it to say to give you permission to live off others.”
Nah. You’re the one tried to use it to justify forcing people to work FOR others.
And it was not my meetup so not my call on meeting you. But I was there.
——————–
As I said a coward, a chicken, a low life ankle biter not man enough to meet someone face to face, but willing to insult them behind the safety of your computer screen.
bawk bawk bawk…
are you feeling a bit yellow Junior?
Drizzle running down your leg?
(chortles)
It’s much easier to defend the radical left view if you can blame any attacks on Wright on Racism or political bias.
If you can’t defend Obama/Wright’s radical left agenda, just accuse the critics of being racists.
And the same for Billary. Just accuse her opponents of Hating Women!
Regular,
Unfortunately we are arguing with ‘fools’ I’m afraid, and I’m afraid of what that makes us.
Both JR, or BlueJay, the savager bird that steals from others, and Chas have an agenda not of self=reliance, and moral honesty I’m afraid.
Gee, sorry guys, but that’s the way I see it.
I am out’a here….I hope to play with this computer to further enlighten myself and quit subjecting myself to the abuse of blogging with them.
Hey JR, I bought some more gold Fri. after a dip in the price and it looks like it’s headed up in Asia today, it’s tomorrows date here.
And you can’t have it, na nana nana, so there.
Speaking of forcing people to work for others, JR, why are you a Socialist?
Hate and more hate from the Right.
It’s all they have left since a loser was picked for them–thousand year war McBush.
God still loves you guys.
You sure that isnt “fools” gold you bought there, Boxlock?? ROFL!!
Usual puppet show?
Not meeting you was not my call. Having seen you, it was the correct one.
You are a pitiable wretch. And I have no kind words for you, nor a sympathetic ear for anything you would say.
Your puppet show bores me.
How many of you all just get real fed up with the arrogance of the Reich Wingers, that always have ad hominem attacks, and NOTHING else???
BlueJay
Posted May 4, 2008 at 9:14 pm | Permalink
Usual puppet show?
Not meeting you was not my call. Having seen you, it was the correct one.
You are a pitiable wretch. And I have no kind words for you, nor a sympathetic ear for anything you would say.
Your puppet show bores me.
———————–
Yeah, whatever you say wormy boy.
bawk bawk bawk…
Bush hails grads in Kansas town recovering from tornado
By BEN FELLER, Associated Press Writer Sun May 4, 5:32 PM ET
Bush told the students Sunday that they had learned a hard lesson of perseverance.
“The lessons that you have learned in this town will give you the strength to rise above any obstacle in your path,” Bush said. “You have seen life at its most difficult. You have emerged stronger from it.”
Bush personally handed a diploma to each graduate.
Hey, maybe you DemLibs need to go through something like that so you can learn a hard lesson of perseverance and self-reliance, not handouts and entitlements.
But then you seem incapable of learning something like that.
Sigh…
So speaks the man on the dole.
Protecting his slice. What a hypocrite.
I only dignified this one because of personal anecdote.
The sob flew over my house on the way to and from Greensburg.
I flipped him a good strong bird on both passes!
“Pride goeth before the fall”
or something like that….
Hate Mongers.
Yeah, that’s the new name to call the Right.
Bunch of 2-year-olds here that can’t support their views with a rational argument.
James 1:27:
Religion that is pure and undefiled before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.
James 2:5-7:
Listen, my beloved brethren. Has not God chosen those who are poor in the world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which he has promised to those who love him? But you have dishonored the poor man. Is it not the rich who oppress you, is it not they who drag you into court? Is it not they who blaspheme the honorable name which was invoked over you?
James 2:14-17:
What does it profit, my brethren, if a man says he has faith but hs not works? Can his faith save him? If a brother or sister is ill-clad and in lack of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what does it profit? So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead.
WTF? Chas a preacher now?
Chas, that’s all true what you pasted in above. But the assistance is to go to those that CAN’T help themselves or provide for their own needs.
It does NOT apply to a bunch of ‘freeloaders’ who simply want to live off the labor of someone else so they don’t have labor themselves.
Why don’t you also site those passages that in effect tell you that if you don’t work….you don’t eat.
“Why don’t you also site those passages that in effect tell you that if you don’t work….you don’t eat.”
Cause there arent any!! Not in that context…
BlueJay
Posted May 4, 2008 at 9:26 pm | Permalink
Sigh…
The sob flew over my house on the way to and from Greensburg.
I flipped him a good strong bird on both passes!
———————————————-
Wow, the powerful JR – to save the world!
Flips the bird. BFD.
Get any blue ice on ya?
Something about reaping what you sow…
Using your talents, something like that.
The Tuskegee Experiments happened on the Democratic Congress Party watch and mostly Democratic Party Presidents. Tuskegee Experiment was a clinical study, conducted between 1932 and 1972 in Tuskegee, Alabama
Ok, point of order Wright has not been saying it was Republican or Democrat he said the U.S. Government.
This pretty much does show at least in the past he is correct in his assertion, also taking into account the action of individuals acting under the colors of the Government. Such as the distribution of Small pox laden
blankets to the Indians. The other day a Senator from Florida said on the floor that the EPA did a study on the effect of pesticides on toddlers. That their test subjects were the poor, minorities of Florida until it was discovered and stopped. He is pushing from a Senate investigate into the matter.
Racism does not have a party affiliation for that matter, it is not limited to the rich or poor, to one color or another. You can be a racist and have never said the “N” word. And to the matter, as I said about Paul a few days ago. It goes for those being accused of racism above, it is I would suspect it is not about the color of skin. More the party affiliation that is the issue for them, race is just the current issue of the day.
“Neither has Osama Bin Laden”
Actually he was convicted in “absences” for his ties to the 93 bombing of the WTC.
“Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead being alone. (James 2:17)
(A man of faith with good works)
For we (Christians) are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works,
which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.” (Eph: 2:8, 9, 10)
(genuine faith – We are saved first through Jesus Christ. Good works come afterwards in the name of Christ not in our name)
“Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, while we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: For we walk by faith, not by sight.” (2 Corinthians 5:6-7)
(The unsaved is blind to our good works because they believe only their eyes, not in their faith.)
Oh Chas,
2nd. Thessalonians 3:10 “”If a man will not work, let him not eat.”"
And if you really hate work, you and BlueJay, I strongly urge you, in the name of Christ, to learn to love it and to thank God for the work he has given you. In 2 Thessalonians 3:10 it says, “If a man will not work, let him not eat.”
The gift of food alone, whether or not limited to an established minimum, can lead only to an endless dependence on governmental charity—in which case charity becomes no more than a subtle form of oppression. If a man continues long in direct and absolute dependence on the government for the necessities of life, he ceases to be a citizen and becomes a slave.
–Wendell Berry, “The Tyranny of Charity” in The Long-Legged House (1969), p. 9
It won’t be long till others who lose things, lose loved ones, commit suicide, lost in war, selling homes…won’t be long till more and more people are so furious with Bush that something will be done. He will be in prison, he will be tried for what he has done to this nation.
You know its almost like part of some master plan to make the middle class poorer and the poor destitude. I’m seeing homeless almost daily in my area, that is unheard of. Look at where we started, ending the bankruptcy of people except the rich….its like he was truly going for fascism.
Isn’t this how it all started with Hitler? THen the wars…
then the concentration camps…
“besides Clark who won’t even show up for a meet up anytime anyplace”
And who failed to show up at Quick Trip several weeks ago – would that be JM? Or was it TT? Or Blog Monitor? Or Republican? Or McCluer? Or Republikihan?
Was it some other fifty six year old virgin?
Eh?
You are SO full of spit Box. Do you have any idea how many millions of people were on welfare at one time and pulled themself out?
Either by opportunity, or by their kids finally growing up and moving out…
What kind of nutjob spouts this nonsense. Remember, JK Rowling was also a welfare mom.
PMomma, you’ve aired your dirty laundry before about not getting your RN title and helping yourself find a new and better job.
If you don’t care about helping yourself, then just keep whining and blaming someone else. After Bush, you will soon have a new President to blame.
Excuses, you know, everybody has one.
P_Mamma,
You are completely delirious.
There may well be financial troubles ahead, but remember it’s congress that appropriates the money, not the President.
No one can see into the future, except those that are delirious, but odds are the President will leave office in approx. 7 months, retire to his ranch in Texas and have one heck of a good time.
And you will still be eating crow.
You lied Clark, you never showed up. You were too drunk to drive and too lazy too walk.
Another alcoholic delusion by Clark.
The days of Pat Robertson, John Hagee and the rest of these Evangelical Right-wing Christians are numbered and they know it.
Perhaps this is why they are so bitter? Our country is in worse shape now after years of TOTAL Republican-controlled Congress with the likes of these Evangelical Christians pulling the strings.
We have seen more corruption, sex scandals, greed and dirty politics from the so-called Religious
Right candidates than I care to see.
Double standard? Of course there is. I do not agree with Rev Jeremiah Wright but he does have he right to say what he thinks. But, like Oprah, Wright has a lot of blacks following him and this time the Religious Right Republicans may not be be able to hold back the onslaught their candidate John McCain will receive.
The Republicans and Religious Right have only themselves to blame.
Good nite whiners.
I have to work tomorrow.
Fuk off Max, you don’t know sheet.
I think PMom said she got caught cheating and she said the school lied about it and wouldn’t let her enroll again.
Heck, I knew a few that cheated, got caught, they just flunked the exam and continued with school.
Must have been some guilt there or something or something more major occurred.
PMom shows her true value with her last comments.
No wonder she doesn’t earn enough to support herself.
Oh well. Fortunately for the Socialists, there are still successful working people out there to support you deadbeats.
Your welcome.
Just don’t tax me to death, leave a couple of crumbs so I can feed my own children.
Good night all!
I did not cheat, you are just saying that because you know it pisses me off.
FO applies to ALL of your ids.
Pathetic loser.
Whatever, everyone should be as p’d off to use a little bad language when it comes to what YOU- yes you and your voting has caused us. And your following of the worst president in history is quite telling.
How does it feel to be oh so wrong all the time?
Just curious, what ID is testicles using? Regular? Max? I could go back and get the ‘I told you so’s’ from years ago ya know.
Must have been something major for you not to complete nursing school there PMom.
Did you curse out the Dean?
Throw a professor out the window?
Threaten a fellow student with an anatomical part? :D
Political_mama
Posted May 4, 2008 at 10:41 pm | Permalink
Just curious, what ID is testicles using? Regular? Max? I could go back and get the ‘I told you so’s’ from years ago ya know.
—————
What the…
Translate that please…
“Boxlock”, “Max”, etc.
All hand puppets for a guy with a foot long beard who lives with his sister.
Don’t feed the clown. Laugh at him.
Even from a distance, I could see.
You don’t bathe much do ya James?
Interesting Passage — by Richard Barc — From Jonathan Livingston Seagull >>>>
“Lastly, there is a seagull who keeps practicing flying in the sky, while many other sea gulls are busy looking for food. The sea gull specially looks great, because he knows the meaning of real life. The sea gull specially looks great, because he knows the meaning of real life. His name is Jonathan Livingston seagull by Richard Barc. His name is Jonathan Livingston seagull by Richard Barc. From his book, this part very meaningful for people who still get confused of getting idea of inmost thoughts.You don’t need me any longer. From his book, this part very meaningful for people who still get confused of getting idea of inmost thoughts.You don’t need me any longer. You need to keep finding yourself, a little more each day, that real, unlimited Fletcher Seagull. You need to keep finding yourself, a little more each day, that real, unlimited Fletcher Seagull. He’s your instructor. He’s your instructor. You need to understand him and to practice him.” A moment later Jonathan’s body wavered in the air, shimmering, and began to go transparent. “Don’t let them spread silly rumors about me, or make me a god. You need to understand him and to practice him. “A moment later Jonathan’s body wavered in the air, shimmering, and began to go transparent.” Don’t let them spread silly rumors about me, or make me a god. OK, Fletch? OK, Fletch? I’m a seagull. I’m a seagull. I like to fly, maybe? I like to fly, maybe? (Bach 5). (Bach 5).”
???: mydnp2 ?? ?? 5:44 0 ?? ?? Auteur: mydnp2 position 5:44 p.m. 0 Comments
“You lied Clark, you never showed up”
I did show up, fat man. It was you that went to Denny’s and stayed away from the meeting place at QT – you were the chicken shit, McCluer.
Try telling the truth for once in your life.
What a loser you are……….
BlueJay
Posted May 4, 2008 at 10:44 pm | Permalink
“Boxlock”, “Max”, etc.
All hand puppets for a guy with a foot long beard who lives with his sister.
Don’t feed the clown. Laugh at him.
——————
Ah, one of the blog’s cowards chimes in again.
My beard isn’t a foot long. You must have bad eyeball measuring skills.
I bet you use the same measuring skills when you talk to women. When they really find out, they call you ’shorty.’
oh and
bawk bawk bawk
WSClark
Posted May 4, 2008 at 10:48 pm | Permalink
“You lied Clark, you never showed up”
I did show up, fat man. It was you that went to Denny’s and stayed away from the meeting place at QT – you were the chicken shit, McCluer.
Try telling the truth for once in your life.
What a loser you are……….
———————–
No you didn’t. I called there to find out, Clancy I believe was working and who I talked to, tall slender fellow with sandy hair. You never showed up.
Clark making up stories faster than his alcoholic diseased brain can keep up with.
Holocaust Remembrance Day >>>>
“It is a matter of history that when Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower, found the victims of the death
camps, he ordered all possible photographs to be taken, and for the German people from surrounding villages to be ushered through the camps and even
made to bury the dead.
He did this because he said in words to this effect: ‘Get it all on record now – get the films – get the witnesses – because somewhere
down the track of history some b*stard will get up and say that this never happened’”
WOULD you like to meet James?
Now, I really do not care to meet you. I’ve a weak stomach. And I think your body odor would nauseate me.
But I’ll meet you and any of your puppet nics. I made that offer already.
Word up. I’ll not be diplomatic. I will tell you face to face just exactly what I think of you.
Now that’s funny, Clancy. WS, one of these days, you’re going to have to drive me by this guy’s house just so I can see what kind of person has such a sad little life that he has to lie about everything and everything.
P_Mamma posts,
“You are SO full of spit Box. Do you have any idea how many millions of people were on welfare at one time and pulled themself out?”
Very few that weren’t forced off. Remember ‘welfare reform’? It was mandated and millions had to get off, did get off, and now hopefully have a little self-respect. And, are hopefully doing much better too.
“Full of spit”, I am tonight, aren’t I? I had a good day and I’m having a good evening teaching the DemLibs a lesson here and there. And if they aren’t learning at least I’m showing themselves to be wrong “98.7% of the time”. Isn’t that how that saying goes.
Like Chas quoting me first;
“Why don’t you also site those passages that in effect tell you that if you don’t work….you don’t eat.” and then him saying;
“Cause there arent any!! Not in that context…”
Isn’t Chas a ‘minister’, well what about 2nd. Thessalonians 3:10 “”If a man will not work, let him not eat.””
If you mean that kind of spit, yes I am a little ‘full of it’. Too full probably.
But to anyone I offend…I am sorry. And I truly mean it when I say that.
Isaiah 2:11
“The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day”
And, Proverbs 16:18
“Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.”
I have strong feelings on conservative/liberal issues, believing that man/woman can’t prosper when they have no self-respect. And, entitlements and hand-outs rob them of self-respect.
P_Mom, I don’t want anybody to ‘hurt’, and I’m willing to help and help my fair share or more. But I have little compassion for freeloaders and do not want to ‘help’ or further contribute to their own destruction by enabling them.
Hope you can understand.
Good night, have a good rest, maybe we can ‘fight’ tomorrow again.
“No you didn’t. I called there to find out”
Yeah, I ALWAYS check in with the clerk at QT and give them my name…………
Tell us McCluer do you always have these fantasies about being a real man?
James, I think your constant ongoing obsession with Clark and Alcohol is far beyond the scope of rational. I highly encourage all on the Blog to totally ignore James and his constant barrage of vitriolic Ad Hominems aimed at any other posters… James is trying to ruin the Blog…
BlueJay
Posted May 4, 2008 at 10:53 pm | Permalink
WOULD you like to meet James?
Now, I really do not care to meet you. I’ve a weak stomach. And I think your body odor would nauseate me.
But I’ll meet you and any of your puppet nics. I made that offer already.
Word up. I’ll not be diplomatic. I will tell you face to face just exactly what I think of you.
——————-
You would just lie once again, like you have 3 times before when you said you would meet.
Nothing but a sniveling coward J R is.
He still feeds from his momma’s table.
All because he lied when he worked for that Aircraft company about some sort of condition he had and tried to make a false insurance claim. He got fired, but may have quit before he got fired, memories fade, no one cares.
Tried to mooch from the Union insurance coffers and got caught didn’t ya JR?
(chortles)
Box, you only think you’re teaching someone something. We libs know very well not to take advice from Cons.
Look at how well that’s working out now.
When you have sex with yourself, McCluer, are you usually the man or the woman?
Has regular ever gone to meet anyone? Lib or COn?
Lets have another meetup, shall we?
Box — that II Thessalonians passage is just what I meant, when I said there are none, in the context YOU stated originally… I knew you would spin it to make it look like you are the only one right… But, this time, bozo, you are just wrong!! Put it in the total context of the passage, and quit your stupid cherry picking of verses!!
One more before I go.
These are so very good, we can all benefit from reading them. Wonder what this blog would look like if we could live them….uh?
Proverbs 16 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
Proverbs 16
1 To man belong the plans of the heart,
but from the LORD comes the reply of the tongue.
2 All a man’s ways seem innocent to him,
but motives are weighed by the LORD.
3 Commit to the LORD whatever you do,
and your plans will succeed.
4 The LORD works out everything for his own ends—
even the wicked for a day of disaster.
5 The LORD detests all the proud of heart.
Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished.
6 Through love and faithfulness sin is atoned for;
through the fear of the LORD a man avoids evil.
7 When a man’s ways are pleasing to the LORD,
he makes even his enemies live at peace with him.
8 Better a little with righteousness
than much gain with injustice.
9 In his heart a man plans his course,
but the LORD determines his steps.
10 The lips of a king speak as an oracle,
and his mouth should not betray justice.
11 Honest scales and balances are from the LORD;
all the weights in the bag are of his making.
12 Kings detest wrongdoing,
for a throne is established through righteousness.
13 Kings take pleasure in honest lips;
they value a man who speaks the truth.
14 A king’s wrath is a messenger of death,
but a wise man will appease it.
15 When a king’s face brightens, it means life;
his favor is like a rain cloud in spring.
16 How much better to get wisdom than gold,
to choose understanding rather than silver!
17 The highway of the upright avoids evil;
he who guards his way guards his life.
18 Pride goes before destruction,
a haughty spirit before a fall.
19 Better to be lowly in spirit and among the oppressed
than to share plunder with the proud.
20 Whoever gives heed to instruction prospers,
and blessed is he who trusts in the LORD.
21 The wise in heart are called discerning,
and pleasant words promote instruction. [a]
22 Understanding is a fountain of life to those who have it,
but folly brings punishment to fools.
23 A wise man’s heart guides his mouth,
and his lips promote instruction. [b]
24 Pleasant words are a honeycomb,
sweet to the soul and healing to the bones.
25 There is a way that seems right to a man,
but in the end it leads to death.
26 The laborer’s appetite works for him;
his hunger drives him on.
27 A scoundrel plots evil,
and his speech is like a scorching fire.
28 A perverse man stirs up dissension,
and a gossip separates close friends.
29 A violent man entices his neighbor
and leads him down a path that is not good.
30 He who winks with his eye is plotting perversity;
he who purses his lips is bent on evil.
31 Gray hair is a crown of splendor;
it is attained by a righteous life.
32 Better a patient man than a warrior,
a man who controls his temper than one who takes a city.
33 The lot is cast into the lap,
but its every decision is from the LORD.
You should read that passage very very carefully Box. Daily you should read it..
Political_mama
Posted May 4, 2008 at 11:03 pm | Permalink
Has regular ever gone to meet anyone? Lib or COn?
Lets have another meetup, shall we?
———————-
Yes, I bet with Steven Davis. J R was supposed to show up and meet me but took the coward’s way out.
Then J R makes up lies about my appearance and hygiene.
But what can you expect from someone like J R, who still suckles on his momma’s breast for support because he won’t get a good job to support this son and buy him medical care.
er met with Steven Davis , not bet…
Box — IF you put that into its appropriate context, those who were living in idleness… and not working, were doing so, because they believed it was not necessary, because of the Imminent Coming of Christ…. It wasd a religious argument… not a welfare system, or a social condition… It was a problem within the CHURCH…. You would do well to keep your quotations in CONTEXT, as I suggested earlier… :-) Have a nice night!!
Uh, aren’t you the one living with your sister?
I’ll have to ask Steven Davis.
Chas,
I’m not ‘cherry picking verses, here’s the whole Chapter. Read in context.
The Book of 2nd Thessalonians, Chapter 3
1.
Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:
2
And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.
3
But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from 1evil.a
1 Matt 5:37, Matt 6:13, Matt 13:19, Matt 13:38, John 17:15, 1st John 2:13, 1st John 3:12, 1st John 5:18
4
And we have confidence in the Lord touching you, that ye both do and will do the things which we command you.
5
And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ.
6
Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.
7
For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;
8
Neither did we eat any man’s bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:
9
Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us.
10
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
11
For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.
12
Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.
13
But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing.
14
And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.
15
Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.
16
Now the Lord of peace himself give you peace always by all means. The Lord be with you all.
17
The salutation of Paul with mine own hand, which is the token in every epistle: so I write.
18
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
Political_mama
Posted May 4, 2008 at 11:09 pm | Permalink
Uh, aren’t you the one living with your sister?
I’ll have to ask Steven Davis.
——————
Yes, I provide her support by paying for the house, utilities, food, all expense, car, gas and etc. She had lost her job when she got sick and couldn’t see my mother supporting her forever, so I moved in and stepped up.
Got a problem with that Pmom?
In the afterglow of making love, McCluer, to you whisper sweet nothings or do you just toss the sock under the bed?
Box — Ummm I know what it says… I have it right in front of me… You arent catching the Context…. They werent WORKING because they were sure Jesus was about to appear… They didnt think work was necessary… I hardly think that applies to those today who are homeless, or what you call “freeloaders” So, dont use some Church Problem from the First Century to try to establish your “social principles” beliefs of the 21st Century… It doesnt work that way!! Get me???
In other words, Box, take the II Thessalonians text, and apply it to some group that goes up to the mountain tops of Montana, to wait for the 2nd Coming… or to the Heaven’s Gate Cult group… Any of those kind of groups who huddle off together somewhere, dont work, an just hang out waiting for the Final Great Lightning Bolt from the Sky… And Jesus riding down on the clouds…
THOSE were the ones in Thessalonica who refused to work along with the rest of them… Paul, rightly, tells them to work along with the rest of those hoping in good faith for the Coming of Christ (Cf. Chap. 2)
Watsa matter Chas, condemn me for my remarks and you saying nothing to Clark?
Are
you
a
Hypocrite
Chas?
Yeah, I thought so and a liar too.
“and you saying nothing to Clark?”
Why didn’t you show at QT, McCoward?
Oh I have you now James.
“You would just lie once again, like you have 3 times before when you said you would meet.”
Nope.
An in person meet was agreed to BY you only once.
My friend Steven stepped in on my repeated calls for a meet up with you and a handful of nics you post under here.
Nathan, as he has before, disrupted that.
I’m game to meet ya James.
And you are gamey to meet me. Hell you can even swing your cane at me.
But when ya fall on your ass, you can ….how is it you say it?
Flail your arms.
I’ll just laugh.
This should be good.
Time and place lamo. I’m gonna get pics for the blog.
So J R is afraid of Nathan? LMAO!
What a certified coward you are J R. Nathan is a gentleman and would never strike up violence. You are just a coward there boy.
Oh, and I’m not worried from you J R. I am extremely strong and deceptively fast when I need to be.
Perhaps I should demonstrate by holding you above my head. No, I don’t want any drizzle running down my arm from your pants, never mind.
“Yes, I provide her support …..yada yada”
No you don’t.
I do. And your fellow bloggers and Americans do.
Pretty sweet little deal you’ve got for yourself. You even parlayed it into multiple properties.
Oh I give you you can game the system.
But you want to game it just for you.
Oh and sis.
Sheesh talk about a dysfunctional family.
WSClark
Posted May 4, 2008 at 11:23 pm | Permalink
“and you saying nothing to Clark?”
Why didn’t you show at QT, McCoward?
——————-
Why didn’t you show up at Denny’s alchy?
I was there for one hour and thirth minutes. No one showed up, not even J R who said he would.
Regular
Posted May 4, 2008 at 11:21 pm | Permalink
Watsa matter Chas, condemn me for my remarks and you saying nothing to Clark?
====================================
Show where I condemned you for your remarks??
BlueJay
Posted May 4, 2008 at 11:33 pm | Permalink
“Yes, I provide her support …..yada yada”
No you don’t.
I do. And your fellow bloggers and Americans do.
Pretty sweet little deal you’ve got for yourself. You even parlayed it into multiple properties.
Oh I give you you can game the system.
But you want to game it just for you.
Oh and sis.
Sheesh talk about a dysfunctional family.
————————–
More lies again from Junior.
You know the guy who tried to defraud the Aircraft Union with his false illness. People talked and J R walked.
Don’t bring Nathan into it James.
He isn’t here to insinuate himself into it.
And I only mention him in for clarification in a story you brought here.
It’s just me and you now Zeke.
Chas,
For Pete’s Sake, pardon my usage of that here, but I UNDERSTAND THAT IN IT’S CORRECT CONTEXT!!! Always have….I think, unless of course I don’t. That’s an attempt at humor.
I do/have always understood they thought Jesus return was imminent, but none the less he still told them to get to work or don’t eat.
I think Jesus is returning too, sooner than I think because of my mortal death if not his return during my life but I still have to work or I don’t eat, and my family doesn’t eat.
That’s all I’m saying.
But I thank you for trying to clarify the context, not because I’m not aware, but you actually seemed to be interested in my correct understanding and not trying to win a point. Hope I’m not wrong.
“Why didn’t you show up at Denny’s alchy?”
You went to Denny’s McCluer, after I invited you to QT to get your comeuppance.
Hell, I didn’t even know that you had chickened out and went to Denny’s until an hour later, fat, smelly man.
It takes a REAL coward to offer a steak to someone AFTER the fact as you did McCluer.
Chickenshit.
Oh you are digging your GRAVE James.
I was in on your confrontaion with WS. It was late at night.
Hello? I’m a single dad. I don’t go out late to meet cellar dwelling loons. If you have proof I posted otherwise go get it.
And this?
“You know the guy who tried to defraud the Aircraft Union with his false illness. People talked and J R walked.”
Go get the posts you say proves this.
And where WOULD you like for me to tell you face to face what I think of you?
See, JR doesn’t deny trying to defraud the Union health care. I asked him once before and he said, “yeah, that’s right.”
Just thought I’d let everyone know who they were dealing with – an insurance scammer.
Junior is probably one of those scammers cops talk about, who cruise Quicktrips, speed up when someone backs out and claim major injury on a two mile an hour collision.
They are investigating that pickup truck incident you know J R and are finding some very interesting things out.
This IS FUN!
“Perhaps I should demonstrate by holding you above my head.”
Uh huh.
I’ve seen ya guy.
You can’t even hold your own cane above your head.
You are correct Box…. Have a nice evening!!
I am waiting on a phone call from my Daughter..
Too MUCH!
Go get the posts James.
See, J R just won’t out and out deny he tried to scam the Union insurance and then ran away before he got caught by the law. Which didn’t help of course. (chortle)
It’s been real, but hasn’t been fun.
I’m off to the showers and then bed.
(chortles)
“See, JR doesn’t deny trying to defraud the Union health care. I asked him once before and he said, “yeah, that’s right.”
I don’t even know what you are imagining.
Go get the post.
See, J R won’t deny it and won’t find it in a post, because I know people and people know JR. Longtime scammer he is and a suspect of the Sedgwick County Sheriff’s Department – along with some ticked off Union reps who took the word of his dad’s friends to give him a job and then got scammed.
Man, what a low life.
“I’m off to the showers and then bed.”
Got a hot date with Dial or is it Fruit of the Loom, MCluer?
Good night; Good luck;
God bless – Whatever you conceive God to be!!
Blessings ALL!!
“See, J R won’t deny it and won’t find it in a post”
The allegation is yours guy.
That makes it incumbent on you to prove it.
The whole blog knows you are….troubled.
If you say you have read posts about or from me as you claim, they may be only in your neurological medication.
Unless of course you can find and re post them here.
I’ve waited a long time for the kill.
You did it to yourself.
“See, J R won’t deny it and won’t find it in a post, because I know people and people know JR. Longtime scammer he is and a suspect of the Sedgwick County Sheriff’s Department – along with some ticked off Union reps who took the word of his dad’s friends to give him a job and then got scammed.
Man, what a low life.”
Prove ANY of this.
And you are off to shower? Sheesh alert the media.
Not a common thing from what I see.
I busted ya James. You and all your nics.
You and them will never be credible here again.
See, he won’t deny it, just says prove it.
Busted me for being some one I’m not.
Yeah…
What a maroon.
“Busted me for being some one I’m not.”
You ain’t nothing but a whack off, McCluer.
Perhaps you’d like to make your allegations in person James?
I have to deny allegations you invent?
Weak.
Here is where James McCluer finally melts down.
” because I know people and people know JR. Longtime scammer he is and a suspect of the Sedgwick County Sheriff’s Department – along with some ticked off Union reps who took the word of his dad’s friends to give him a job and then got scammed.”
James you don’t even know my name.
You KNOW and in maybe weird ways, your sister. You may have met the postman.
Otherwise? You don’t get out much.
Well, not without your meds anyway.
I guess they take you places. You CAN bring that here. But you will need to being more than your own delirium.
I am home late. I am not sure what to think about this thread.
I am hard pressed to see how making up stuff about other posters is useful at all.
And with that thought I am going to bed.
James posts this crap >>>>
““See, J R won’t deny it and won’t find it in a post, because I know people and people know JR. Longtime scammer he is and a suspect of the Sedgwick County Sheriff’s Department – along with some ticked off Union reps who took the word of his dad’s friends to give him a job and then got scammed.”
James, I think if you choose to put something like this on the Blog, you should have the audacity to at least show proof… You know, that thing about bearing false witness against somebody??
So, if you cant prove any of this stupid crap that you post almost daily, then I would humbly suggest that you STOP IT!!
Boy, the maturity level drops through the floor around here at night.
Dear Editors:
Get rid of Blue Jay and Regular. The blog would be a much better place without those 2.
What’s to say you are not another of “Regular”s nics Nano?
I don’t think there is any shortage of folks would like “Regular” gone.
4 Trackbacks
[...] AZ BlueMeanie wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptJerry Falwell and Pat Robertson made even more divisive comments after Sept. 11 than the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, yet GOP politicians still sought their endorsements. The Rev. John Hagee has made many offensive comments, yet John McCain … [...]
[...] if Wright were white and right wing? AZ BlueMeanie wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptJerry Falwell and Pat Robertson made [...]
[...] Irregular Times: News Unfit for Print wrote an interesting post today on What if Wright were white and right wing?Here’s a quick excerpt“It’s entirely true that Wright’s foolishness is a bigger deal because of his long-standing relationship with Obama,” Dionne wrote. [...]
[...] Is there a double standard???? E.J. Dionne?asked in the Washington Post. He noted that the Revs.http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/what-if-wright-were-white-and-right-wing/Controversial statements by other clergymen The Canton Repository1930s The Rev. Charles Coughlin of [...]