A celebrated green economy produces pollution elsewhere, ongoing power shortages, and business-crippling costs
In January 2007, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger stood before the California legislature in Sacramento and delivered his fourth State of the State address since his improbable 2003 election. It was a rhetorical tour de force that would win him widespread acclaim. “California has the ideas of Athens and the power of Sparta,” said Schwarzenegger. “Not only can we lead California into the future; we can show the nation and the world how to get there.”
Schwarzenegger especially celebrated California for its leadership on energy and the environment. Just three months earlier, he had signed the Global Warming Solutions Act, committing California to reducing greenhouse-gas emissions to 1990 levels-roughly 25 percent below today’s-by 2020, and all but eliminating them by 2050. The Governator then lambasted the Bush administration for failing to tackle global warming: “It would not act, so California did. California has taken the leadership in moving the entire country beyond debate and denial to action.” Such performances have helped establish Schwarzenegger as a national figure, even a statesman, on the environment. In April 2007, he posed for the cover of Newsweek, spinning a globe on his finger under the banner leadership & the environment, and in September, he even addressed the United Nations on climate change.
Schwarzenegger’s reputation as an environmental trailblazer is in keeping with California’s recent history and self-perception. California’s political leaders, business titans, academics, and environmental activists proudly point to the fact that the state has infused its public policy over the last four decades with an environmental consciousness unmatched in the United States, while also maintaining a dynamic economy, arguably the eighth-largest on the planet, with a gross state product of more than $1.6 trillion. The widely shared assumption is that forward-looking Athenian wisdom has nourished awesome Spartan power.
In truth, however, the Golden State’s energy leadership is a mirage. California’s environmental policies have made it heavily dependent on other states for power; generated some of the highest, business-crippling energy costs in the country; and left it vulnerable to periodic electricity shortages. Its economic growth has occurred not because of, but despite, those policies, which would be disastrous if extended to the rest of the country.
Regular: I apologize for my comments last night. I’m sorry for what I posted. I let something another poster wrote get to me. I lost my self discipline and in the heat of the moment, did not stop to think that you are doing your part in your way - and no one has any right to question.
WriterDog: This one is harder, but I’m sorry I came unglued in response to your post. Something about it made me go over the edge. You have a son serving this nation and for that you too are part of the military family. I was wrong. I was also wrong to question your loyality and love of this country. I don’t know what the heck I was thinking. If I was to meet you on the street, at a parade, or on post or station, I would be shaking your hand and telling you how proud I am of you and your son’s service. After reading my post, I’m sure your family situation right now, to include a fresh new daughter-in-law? is not very different from my own and those I know serving today. I am grateful for your entire families sacrafice for this nation in time of war.
Sorry.
Of course you are right Hank and it applies to most of the good people on this blog. If I was a couple of decades younger, someone should kick my butt. I’m ashamed for having posted last night.
“The reason this matters is that there is a close correlation between variations in the sunspot cycle and Earth’s climate. The previous time a cycle was delayed like this was in the Dalton Minimum, an especially cold period that lasted several decades from 1790.”
I wish to apologize to my fellow bloggers, the editorial staff of the Eagle and the readers of the WE blog.
For my uncensored outburst in the thread topic about the Web amendment and President G.W. Bush’s opposing giving the military improved G.I. benefits.
The person the sentiments were for will never see them, but other suffered them. That is not right and for that I apologize for. But to be clear, the apology does not extend to the person the comments are intended for, my harsh, uncensored words are fit and the least of the offenses committed in the last six years.
My comments some will think come from my person sacrifice, they do not. They were fit from the moment the first unarmored Humvee hit the street on patrol, the first moment when a soldier went into battle with inferior body armor. The first moment that it was realized that combat had not ended but had changed to a different form of combat. And there seemed to be foot dragging to provide the needed equipment to assure our troop safety and effective response. They were fitting from the moment the first soldier felt the sting of electric while taking a shower. The moment the water made them ill and their paid for supplies were withheld and traded on the black market.
The moment that in response to the question of why are you sending inferior equipped troop into harm’s way. And the reply was “you do not go to war with the troops you wish you had. But the troops you have!”.
From a S.O.D. of the country with the greatest military in the world. The moment that large shipments of weapons disappear only to turn up to be used against our troops.
Compared to the offenses that has happen prior to last night comments, my comments are not just mild but restrained. None the less no one whom would have read them deserves the offense of reading them. Less you were able to have changed the offenses that inspired them and failed to do so.
They could have been changed…they all didn’t have to happen at all had people been more critical of the information given and stopped being so partisan and actually thought of America first.
This war has had an enormous toll, and I have no patience at all for Bush apologists.
AmWay, keep playing with em. I love your legislative updates, and it’s killing em wondering who you are and how you get this info.
And to Chas, if it’s information about what Government is doing, it must be illegally obatined. Government shouldn’t be transparent and accountable to the people. The actions of the State Legislature are not public info?
Hmmm….Marxist State is what some would prefer - as long as you get free stuff and don’t have to work.
The details in your updates AmWay paint the picture of our corrupt and incompetent Government, a picture many do not want The People to see. If enough People actually paid attention to the details, they’d find that’s where the devil is and they’d get p-o enough to perhaps even make some change happen in our government. But, most just want to sit around and btich, and hold their hand out.
AmWay, whoever you are, keep up the informative posts! Eventually, the info about our Government in action (or inaction) might trickle thru the thick skulls of some of the whiners and complainers, and MAYBE they will get off their a** and do something other then btich about it.
Look at the ‘trifecta’ bush is handing off to his would be successor, contained in the first paragraph.
Didn’t Rove say something about Republican dominance for generations! LOL
McCain likely to be outspent in election By Andy Sullivan
Fri May 9, 1:04 AM ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - He backs an unpopular war in Iraq, represents an unpopular political party and is endorsed by an unpopular president in the midst of an economic downturn.
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As if that’s not enough, Republican John McCain could be heavily outspent by his Democratic rival in the U.S. election in November to succeed President George W. Bush.
For every $1 the Arizona senator has raised, Democrat Barack Obama has raised $3. Hillary Clinton, unlikely at this point to beat Obama for the Democratic nomination, has raised two and a half times as much as McCain.
McCain is likely to have enough to compete with either Obama or Clinton, his campaign and Republican strategists say. But several acknowledged that the yawning money gap is another sign of the uphill battle any Republican would face this year.
“I can’t emphasize enough how terrible the political environment is for Republicans,” said one Republican strategist who requested anonymity to speak candidly. “It is dreadful.”
McCain raised $77 million through the end of March, campaign finance records show. Obama raised $235 million by that point, while Clinton raised $189 million.
Sectors like finance and real estate that traditionally favor Republicans have given more to both Democrats this time, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
And a larger portion of the Democrats’ money has come from donations of $200 or less — a sign of widespread support.
Obama and Clinton need that cash to continue their own battle for the Democratic nomination, while McCain clinched the Republican nomination in March.
But if trends continue, McCain is likely to be outspent significantly by the eventual Democratic nominee.
McCain’s campaign is preparing to take $84 million in public funding after the Republican Party convention in September and he is challenging Obama to stick by last year’s pledge to use public money and its accompanying spending limits.
“It would be unfortunate for the Democratic nominee, particularly if it was Barack Obama, to go back on his commitment to the public financing system,” McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said.
‘A DISTRACTION’
Combined with other funding sources, McCain should have roughly $115 million to last the final two months of the campaign, said Colby College political science professor Anthony Corrado, a campaign finance expert.
Republican strategists expect Obama or Clinton could raise $200 million or more for the final sprint.
That means a bigger budget for television advertising and get-out-the-vote efforts that could put Republican strongholds like Montana and Virginia in play, Corrado said.
Republican experts say McCain will not be hurt by the money gap because the race at that point is likely to be determined by debates, media coverage and e-mail and other relatively cheap online communication methods.
“Neither side’s going to lose because of lack of money,” said Ron Kaufman, who advised Mitt Romney’s unsuccessful campaign for the Republican nomination and served as a political adviser to former President George H.W. Bush.
Fundraising in the general election is “a distraction,” said Michael Toner, a former Republican chairman of the Federal Election Commission.
“You’ve got to prepare for the debates, you’ve got to get out the vote. The last thing you want to be doing is going to some ballroom in Beverly Hills in September to raise money.”
Strategists also point to the Republican National Committee, which is sitting on more cash than its Democratic counterpart and will benefit from a McCain joint fundraising effort that allows donors to give up to $70,000, far above the $2,300 limit for individual candidates.
McCain brought in $7 million to be shared with the Republican National Committee at a New York fundraiser on Wednesday, said a source close to the campaign.
Still, several strategists acknowledged that the record sums raised by Democrats serve as a worrisome indicator.
“I think it’s clearly going to be a tough environment,” said Scott Reed, who managed 1996 Republican nominee Bob Dole’s presidential bid. “But you know, McCain’s challenge is to overcome all that and rebrand the party his way.”
(Additional reporting by Tim Gaynor, editing by John O’Callaghan)
What’s with all the mea culpas today? When the RW repubs. apologizes for calling anyone who initially opposed this Iraq fiasco ‘terrorist sympathizers’, ‘traitors’, and ‘unamerican’ (among a few of the insults), then maybe a mea culpa might be appropriate.
Especially since even knowing what they do now, the 27%ers would do it all over!
Thank you American Way, I too was caught up in the moment. I had backed out of that topic once because I feel as I do. You are right we all do what we can and perhaps it is the frustration of not do more. I inherited a pride and admiration for the Military from my dad whom served in Korea. It was strengthen and brought out by several personal experiences.
My comments last night did not come from a hatred of Bush or for that matter my son being a soldier.
They have been stewing since the first time I learn of slights done to returning personnel even from the Vietnam war. Compounded by the slights done with this war, some listed in my apology above.
But as I said in my apology it was wrong of me to suffer other whom can not change them.
In my defense though, these offenses are not just talking points for some political blog.
They are being done to our troops and for a country that is the richest, most powerful and prideful in the world. There can be no excuse for such failures, there is not a lack of money to excuse it. There is not a lack of knowledge to excuse it.
Regular brought up a valid point, Congress holds the power of oversight and they have fail in it.
Many above our pay grade have dropped the ball and damn them at least for some it has been political for them. Of this we might agree, its not just Republican or Democrat its more they are being Politicians instead of Americans. From what I have received on the matter it is not a lack of citizens responding, the response I get back are form letters that are so generic. That they could easily be as much for my complain about the lack of over sighting the shortages in providing for our troops. As it could be if I was complaining about a pothole in the street.
ROFL, I told you Hank (damn it hard to laugh and type at the same time!!!) name your poison! Jelly is open to many different flavors. You pick your favorite and you can have one or a box load!
For what it’s worth, I asked the editor to remove my own offensive posts and apologized for my use of profanity. Not sure why, but Phil only removed two of the three.
Phantom I have a feeling that within the next ten years there will be many “mea culpa” from many sides.
Passions wan, minds cool and realities become clearer There has been many displaced blames because a feeling of frustrations. WE “grow angry at the wind”, but know that yelling at the wind is meaningless.
So we yell at each other, when the others are no more responsible for the wind they we are. We pee on the fire we feel trapped in. Knowing that it does no good, but at least it is doing something about something we can not change.
Thanks Max. Not sure why someone from Des Plaines would care to read them, but you’ve probably seen the last of them for sometime. Except maybe for a quick post at the end of the month.
I should have more time for posting normal conservative opinions which get labled perverse, convoluted, neocon, religious rightist, evil republican type posts.
Last night, while idly channel-surfing the vast wasteland of available offerings for non-cable subscribers, I clicked on one of the fundamentalist-dominated channels. Normally, I would pass this by, but the beauteous face of Eduardo Verastegui stopped me in my tracks.
This gentleman was the lead actor in “Bella”, a wonderful film which I first viewed on Thanksgiving evening. If the film’s creators and thespians had equated all pro-choice womem with something on the menu at Wendy’s (The Baconator)…..if they had callously dismissed women’s sufferings through the decades in one fell, foul swoop…..if they had stooped to name-calling before the opening credits rolled, I would have walked out.
And what a cinematic jewel I would have missed.
As the stunningly handsome Verastegui attested last night, this is the way to touch hearts and restore hope (or, in my case, to create hope where none existed).
Let this film be a lesson to the most virulent of anti’s: You won’t transform others by alienating them in the extreme.
A pregnant, unemployed and massively depressed teenager cannot do it alone, however much my giving birth would have been the most moral choice. In my case, I do indeed believe this to be so. Yet……
What would you have had me do, I ask you? Stand at the entrance to I-70, thumb aloft, with a sign saying, “Preggo in Need?” greeting the prurient and noncommittal? A crisis pregnancy demands the best of everyone: the clergy, family, educators, parents, friends and, of course, myself.
Hays Kansas is a helluva long way away from Southern California. The landscape is far improved nowadays, thank goodness. My former confessor was instrumental in eliminating the parochial schools’ policy of automatically expelling pregnant teenagers. I am grateful and respectful of this. Most individuals have real families, real connections with their significant others, and the love and support of those important to them.
I had none of this.
But I am grateful for the gift of “Bella” and shall remain so for the rest of my life. Some months ago, I received an e-mail from a priest who reviewed the film nearly one year ago. He didn’t call me names. He didn’t lambast me for my waistline. Astonishingly, he conveyed that he had given thought to what I had said. Finally, he was glad the film had moved me so.
Let this be a lesson to anti-choice activists: This is a wonderful way to touch hearts. Name-calling, whether toward Hillary Clinton, Dr. Tiller and/or his staff - is not.
It’s hard for me to get one together. Joyce and I will be gone most weekends doing dog and horse stuff. I’ll try and maybe work out a cookout in June at our club house by the lake.
How does June 21st or 22nd sound to every one? I’ll supply hamburgers/hotdogs, pot luck on the rest?
Guilty verdict in Swift case
ASSOCIATED PRESS • May 8, 2008
A former union representative who helped illegal workers get jobs at a Swift & Co. meatpacking plant in Marshalltown was found guilty of federal immigration charges today.
A jury found Braulio Pereyra-Gabino guilty of harboring illegal immigrants but acquitted him on other charges that included false use of a Social Security number and aggravated identity theft.
He faces up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.
Pereyra-Gabino was working as vice president of Local 1149 of the United Food and Commercial Workers union when he was arrested by federal immigration officials in July 2007.
Prosecutors contend that he told undocumented workers how to escape detection and protect their fake identities used to get jobs at the Marshalltown plant.
Hey, Max, when we put Obama in the White House, the first thing he’s going to do is confiscate all your guns. Then he’s going to melt them down and stamp peace signs out of them and force you stick one on your car.
Then he’s going to take all your money and give it to people who mainline heroin and cocaine.
Obama Now Takes The Lead in Superdelegates Too
May 09, 2008 6:19 AM
ABC News’ Karen Travers Reports: For the first time this campaign season, Barack Obama has surpassed Hillary Clinton’s support among superdelegates, according to the ABC News delegate estimate.
Sen. Obama, D-Ill., picked up two superdelegates this morning giving him a new metric to tout in addition to his current commanding leads in pledged delegates, popular votes, states won, and money raised.
Ex-cop: Officers routinely lied to obtain search warrants
By STEVE VISSER
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 05/08/08
A former Atlanta police officer testified Thursday that narcotics officers routinely lied under oath when seeking search warrants — a practice that led to police killing a 92-year-old woman.
Former Detective Gregg Junnier told a Fulton County jury that detectives would tell judges that they had verified their informants had bought cocaine from dealers by searching them for drugs before the buy took place.
“I have never seen anyone searched before they go into the house ” I’ve never seen that done ” even though officers always swear to it,” Junnier said. “It’s done that way in 90 percent of the warrants that are written.”
But it wasn’t just lies to get the warrant to search Kathryn Johnston’s home that made Junnier uneasy, he said. He had an inkling something was wrong when he and Officer Jason R. Smith were leading the narcotics team to the front door. He said the northwest Atlanta house differed from the informant’s description.
“I said, ‘Man, this doesn’t look right,’ and he said, ‘I know,’ ” Junnier testified. ” ‘I said what do you want to do.’ He said, ‘Hit it.’”
A minute later, Johnston was lying on her floor, dying.
Junnier testified at the Superior Court trial of one of his former partners, Arthur Tesler, who was guarding the back of Johnston’s Neal Street home on that day, Nov. 21, 2006.
Junnier and Smith pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter and face up to 10 and 12 years in prison, respectively, depending on their cooperation. Tesler faces 15 years on charges of lying in an official investigation, violating his oath as an officer and false imprisonment, a charge stemming from illegally surrounding Johnston’s house.
Junnier, whose confession unraveled the case, is to testify again today.
“I have already asked for forgiveness from God and everybody I can,” he said.
On the day of the raid, Junnier said he knew Smith had lied to a magistrate to get the no-knock warrant — which allows police to break in before identifying themselves — to seize the cocaine they had been told was in the house.
Junnier testified that Smith, who had sworn out the warrant, had lied about more than searching the informant for drugs. Smith swore that a reliable confidential informant had bought cocaine from the Johnston house, Junnier said. In actuality, he said, they relied on Fabian Sheats, a low-level dealer arrested earlier that day.
Junnier said they had confidence in Sheats’ descriptions, which detailed the drugs, location and a dealer named “Sam,” whom Sheats said worked from the house.
He said the chance to seize a kilo — 2.2 pounds — of cocaine also drove the officers, who normally made arrests for much smaller amounts.
In the raid, police fired 39 shots. Junnier was shot in the face, chest and leg. Two other officers were also wounded. Investigators determined Johnston had fired one round from a revolver; the officers were shot in their own crossfire.
Junnier described entering Johnston’s house: “She was still alive. She was gasping for air. I heard … the order to cuff her.”
Later that day, he said, the cover-up began.
WASHINGTON - Former CIA operative Valerie Plame is trying to resurrect a lawsuit against those in the Bush administration she says illegally disclosed her identity.
A federal judge dismissed Plame’s lawsuit last year, saying there was no basis to bring a case. Plame’s lawyers asked a federal appeals court Friday to send the case back before the judge and force him to consider its merits.
Plame and her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, sued Vice President Dick Cheney; his former chief of staff, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby; former White House political adviser Karl Rove and former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage.
Plame’s CIA position was revealed in a syndicated newspaper column in 2003, during a time when her husband was criticizing the march to war in Iraq. Armitage and Rove were the original sources for that story, which Plame believes was retribution for Wilson’s criticism.
Majority of Hill Stands Against D.C. Gun Ban
Members to File Friend-of-the-Court Brief in 2nd Amendment Case Before Justices
By Robert Barnes
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, February 8, 2008
A majority of the Senate and more than half of the members of the House will file a brief today urging the Supreme Court to uphold a ruling that the District’s handgun ban violates the Second Amendment.
You LIBS will LOVE the agenda of Obama who does not want you to have the right to defend your own life, in your own home!
Barack Obama’s Slippery Oratory
by Wayne LaPierre, Executive Vice President
NRA Standing Guard - April 11, 2008
To understand Barack Obama on the Second Amendment, you have to know about the clash of character between the then-Chicago state senator and an ordinary citizen who exercised his right to armed self-defense in violation of a local gun ban.
That citizen was a 52-year-old resident of Wilmette, Illinois, who, on Dec. 28, 2003, woke to find that, during the night, his home had been invaded by a career criminal; a thief who stole household items, keys and the homeowner’s car.
The victim, Hale DeMar, described his fear in a letter to the Chicago Sun- Times: “For me, the seconds until I found my children still safely tucked in their beds were horrifying . . . The police were called and in routine fashion they came, took the report and with little concern left, promising to increase surveillance. Little comfort, since the invader now had keys to our home and our automobiles. The police informed me that this was not an uncommon event in east Wilmette and offered their condolences . . .” Not 24 hours after the first burglary, the thief returned. Using DeMar’s house keys, the man entered the home, this time setting off the alarm system, automatically notifying the security company. Given the previous night’s lackluster response by police, DeMar was prepared, armed with a handgun–legally purchased years before and kept in a safe. But under Wilmette’s gun ban, that firearm in the home was illegal.
DeMar confronted the criminal, and believing his children were in danger, shot the burglar, who then fled the home.
“Until you are shocked by a piercing alarm in the middle of the night and met in your kitchen by a masked invader as your children shudder in their beds, until you confront that very real nightmare, please don’t suggest that some village trustee knows better … “If my actions have spared only one family from the distress and trauma that this habitual criminal has caused hundreds of others, then I have served my civic duty and taken one evil creature off of our streets, something that our impotent criminal justice system had failed to do, despite some thirty odd arrests, plea bargains and suspended sentences.” The burglar, who was arrested after driving DeMar’s stolen SUV to a hospital, had an extensive criminal record.
Cook County prosecutors ultimately declared DeMar’s use of a firearm to be justified. But Wilmette village officials pressed nonetheless to prosecute him for illegal possession of his handgun–a charge punishable by a huge fine and jail time. A town official was quoted in Reason magazine saying, “We need to set the example that we’re trying to protect our citizens.” And he said, DeMar–by possessing a legally purchased handgun–”is endangering innocent civilians.” The outcry of the Illinois public was heard all the way to the state capitol.
As a result, the Illinois House and Senate passed legislation in May 2004 to protect citizens who use handguns in self-defense in their homes or businesses despite local handgun bans.
The House accepted the DeMar selfdefense bill by a vote of 86-25 and the Senate moved the legislation on a 38-20 vote.
And here lies the seminal moment for state Senator Barack Obama. When Obama turned thumbs down on the bill, he voted against the most basic element of the Second Amendment– the right of defense of self and family– the reason that millions of Americans own firearms.
When the governor vetoed the bill, Obama once again voted against a citizen’s right to self-defense.
Despite his vote, the veto override passed the Senate and the House by overwhelming majorities, thereby enacting this bill into law.
Now, fast forward to today’s slippery oratory of U.S. Sen. Barack Obama just three years from being an unknown state senator–now morphed by the media into a spellbinding u.s. senator seeking to be president of the United States.
Using words like “protecting sportsmen,” Obama is now saying that he believes in the Second Amendment … but with almost universal exceptions, all of which he lists under the heading of “common sense gun safety laws.” “Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? Like endorsing the D.C. gun ban, which outlaws armed self-defense in the home–now being challenged before the u.s. Supreme Court. Obama, who as president would be in the position to nominate justices to that high court, has declared that the d.c. ban doesn’t violate the Second Amendment.
“Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? In a “1998 National Political Awareness Test,” he pledged to support a “Ban [on] the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons”–meaning most handguns and many rifles and shotguns that you and I own.
“Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? Like demanding that the federal government preempt the 40 hard-won state laws creating Right-to-Carry.
Here’s how the Chicago Tribune put it: “Obama said he opposed allowing ordinary citizens to carry concealed weapons and that a federal law banning concealed carried weapons except for law enforcement is needed.” “Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? Like the draconian proposals funded to the tune of $18,000,000 by the rabidly anti-gun Joyce Foundation while Obama was an activist member of its board of directors.
Obama’s alleged support of the Second Amendment is utterly cynical and false. Barack Obama is not for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms; he`s out to destroy it.
Max I’ll bet you are just trying to throw us off because you are embarrassed to be from some tiny
Podunk Hollow in Kansas. Some little burg where the big excitement is watching the beagles mate in the dust on mainstreet on Saturday night.
The union is an international brotherhood. Perhaps they are taking any warm body they can get their hands on to pay union dues. With less than what is it 12% of Americans union members, it only makes sense that they are sneaking them in on union 18 wheeler rigs.
You know Davis, you might disagree with Max, but he provides links and sources to his post data.
Not sure who elected you to advise the blog, but why don’t you do your scrolling over on your own, and not worry what anyone else is doing.
Max has made another point here - and neither democratic candidate signed the brief to the Supreme Court regarding private handgun ownership. That’s important information to many gun owners, and constitutionalists alike.
The solar minimum continues. No sunspot activity. New cycle now delayed about 1 year. See current photo of sun.”
However, here on planet earth:
“Earth just experienced its warmest Northern Hemisphere winter on record, according to statistics released today by the National Climatic Data Center. The 3-month Northern Hemisphere winter period December 2006 through February 2007 had an average global temperature +0.72?C (+1.30?F) above normal, beating the previous record set in 2004 by a substantial +0.12?C. The Northern Hemisphere had its warmest winter ever measured, and the Southern Hemisphere (where it was summer) had its 4th warmest summer on record.”
So - we have solar conditions that should make it ’super-cold’ but continue to set records for warmth here on palnet earth.
Sounds a bit like an endorsement, but headline calls it praise.
Obama wins praise from former rival John Edwards
“What he brings to the table is the capacity, number one, to unite the Democratic Party,” Edwards, a former North Carolina senator, told NBC’s “Today” show.
“Number two, to bring in new voters, to bring in people who haven’t been involved in the process over a long time and to get people excited about this change.”
I often wonder if you are truly serious about your convictions or if they are pretend only because they further your dislike for Bush.
“They were fit from the moment the first unarmored Humvee hit the street on patrol,”
Humvee were never meant to be armored. Our military was not equiped to be completely protected from all sorts of IED attacks.
We adapted as does the enemy. Every time we upgraded the armor, they changed how they attacked the aromor.
We put armor on the sides, they attack the bottom. We put armor on the bottom, they attack the top. We try to armor the top, they use more explosives and simply destroy the armor.
You can only do so much to a Humvee. We can’t give every soldier his own personal tank. It is not practical.
“the first moment when a soldier went into battle with inferior body armor.”
We have never issued body armor like we have now to all troops. We fought every war before this one without body armor like we have now.
“The first moment that it was realized that combat had not ended but had changed to a different form of combat. And there seemed to be foot dragging to provide the needed equipment to assure our troop safety and effective response.”
Foot dragging? We are upgrading and fixing our equipment constantly in response to the different tactics being used against us.
“They were fitting from the moment the first soldier felt the sting of electric while taking a shower.”
Like what? Maybe one or two? Shit happens. The fact that you are using it to further your political crap makes you hardly any better. How many soldiers were electricuted in the shower? Please let me know.
“The moment the water made them ill and their paid for supplies were withheld and traded on the black market.”
Who is this “them” you speak of? No one was ill the 7 months I was there from water.
“The moment that in response to the question of why are you sending inferior equipped troop into harm’s way. And the reply was “you do not go to war with the troops you wish you had. But the troops you have!”
That is the truth. Our military is one of the bext trained and equiped in the world and was before we attacked. You simply can’t have the “perfectly” equiped military at all times.
Especially when the liberals fight paying for any of it at every turn.
“From a S.O.D. of the country with the greatest military in the world. The moment that large shipments of weapons disappear only to turn up to be used against our troops.”
A tragedy yes, but hardly the status quo.
You cherry pick events and string them toegether as if it is the status quo. How absurd.
“And I had all this popcorn bought for the trial (and the discovery) too!”
Keep it Max. Maybe they can do the OJ chase thing.
Nathan can take off in his big pickemtruck with the gun rack full, and Chas and the Chaplain Corps can chase him along I-35!
Chas will have to be wielding his bat out the window, but Nathan can have his Glock.
I didn’t tell you to scroll over anyone did I?
Did I tell any poster what to do? Max had a great point with the gun banning democratic candidates.
Davis said to scroll it over.
I’m not seeing the connection.
The “Nathan Immenient Arrest” scandal is widely known by bloggers. I am very concerned for Nathan’s well-being and potential incarceration in the federal pen. He faces grave charges from the Chaplain Corps.
I was trying to infuse some laughter, playing off Max’s post, so Nathan doesn’t get too far into the dumps with his pending courts-martial.
Aren’t you worried too Linda? Chas has made some serious allegations. Nathan could get life.
“So - we have solar conditions that should make it ’super-cold’ but continue to set records for warmth here on palnet earth.”
Exactly. It’s (very roughly) like warming a house with a heater, and then also turning on the A/C. The A/C is helping offset the heater, but the deniers insist that the heater was turned off.
Some great graphs showing the long-term warming trend, and short-term cooling from volcanoes.
I think we’re all capable of knowing who we want to scroll over and who we find interesting to read. In fact, many of us can read things in posts that aren’t even said, without missing connections.
I agree with you Linda. I read what I want and pass over what I don’t. I just read that long article on the ‘religious right’ that Steven linked to. I didn’t see much difference in what they have and what the mainstream conservative party have here. I think it is called being a ‘compassionate conservative’.
I also share AmWays concern for Nathan. It can’t be fun having this hang over your head for this long. Maybe Chas should be the strong one here and withdraw the charges.
Maybe we should all behave as adults, but that’s probably not going to happen either. What was it you were saying yesterday about gaggles or gangs or congregations or whatever?
Hey Hank! If there is a “gathering” (I keep thinking of the the gathering on Clan of the Cave Bear),you can have a collection hat out so we can all contribute a little something towards Nathans legal fees.
“From what I can tell, the list was compiled mostly from reviewed scientific articles in which authors proposed or identified various sources of natural variability in climate; in my case solar irradiance and cosmic ray flux.
I’m not sure of the intent of the compilation of 500 names, but the supplied information seems to suggest 500 authors have questioned human induced variability.
This does not hold in my case and probably does not in the case of many others.”
New Orleans! Bourbon Street?
If Chas hurries the Chaplain Corps up with their investeegayshun, perhaps the Courts-martial could be beld for Mardi Gras 2009!
New Orleans! Bourbon Street?
If Chas hurries the Chaplain Corps up with their investeegayshun, perhaps the Courts-martial could be held in time for Mardi Gras 2009!
Admittedly I’m not an expert on this blog and I don’t get to spend a lot of time posting, but what happened to the thread from yesterday about you know, the word I objected to? I replied to someone and wanted to read their response.
Is there a way I can search for my post to find the thread?
Chas, Chas, Chas too many of us followed the entire conversation. Please don’t embarras youself like this. Just say you made a misstatement and move on.
I have had to do that and even though I did WS still throws it up but I admitted it so what.
Granny — I NEVER said what Nathan just posted upthread I said… But its good for you to show up just to try your usual demeaning and belittling of me once again!!
YOU need to go back and read AGAIN what it is I actually said to Nathan…. What I told Nathan I would do, has been done…
Once again, your reading comprehension and your ability to understand what you read speaks volumes for the bulk of your difficulty here, Granny!!!!
chas you have no need to belittle me. I was just giving you what I think is good advise. Your ability to deny something the entire blog read says more about you than I ever could.
I have no desire to put you down. As I said yesterday you perplex me but that is all.
Grm… If you think you know so damn much, why dont you show that I said what Nathan just posted upthread that I said… I NEVER SAID THAT — And if you had followed the conversation, you would know better… But NO, you just fall into lock step with the Reich Wingers, and ask ME to admit to a misstatement that I didnt make??? You have got to be kidding… or else you really ARE the Blog Wench!!
Hank,
I hope another date is selected, but know you can’t please everyone! After missing the first couple of meet ups, I hate to miss another. The weekend of June 21 I am having my big five-OH?!? bday bash.
Nathan, you are the self-proclaimed Know it all… Did you forget already?? I am not going back over all of that again… I have no intention of doing any more or less than I have already done… What I said I would do, has been done… I will have no more contacts on the matter… Sorry, you are flaming the wrong bush!!
Chas
Posted April 24, 2008 at 6:00 pm | Permalink
Nathan, be certain, the contacts have been made. I have no more to do with the time line beyond that. The time line is in the hands of the Chief of Chaplains. Nuff said!!
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Yep Grrm… thats what I said… not the Chaplains Corp… not that I know the Chief of Chaplains… just that contact has been made… period… I didnt bring it UP, Granny!! LOL Lady, you are just too much!! But as you quoted, I said long ago, Nuff Said!! LOL
Nathan, I also never said that it was because of the way you treat me… That is one reason you are a liar… The other is cause you told Heckler I contacted the Chaplains Corp… which is also NOT TRUE…
“I have had to do that and even though I did WS still throws it up but I admitted it so what.”
No you didn’t - you said that you “made a mistake” not that you lied.
You said that your son was stationed with the Navy in the Middle East at the time of the Cole attack and that “everybody there knew that al Qaeda was behind the attack.”
Later, you said that your son left the Navy in 1992 because Clinton (Governor of Arkansas) cut his wages.
Then you said that your son left the Navy in 1994.
You lied, plain and simple, but you choose to call it a “mistake.”
Then you said that your son was “off limits” for the discussion.
Fine, you brought his service up (not that I would ever denigrate the military service of anyone) but who is counting?
But I notice that you have never chastised McCluer when he accuses me of having sex with my daughters or being sexually abusive to my granddaughter.
What happened to the “both sides” issue that you were ragging Mr. Davis about?
Oh, and McCluer threatened to beat up my son - we’ll be selling tickets - my son is 6′3″ and 275# of solid muscle - he would flat out wipe the floor with McCluer.
WS once and for all just to make you happy. I lied. I lied. I lied. My son left the Navy in 1994 because of the cuts Hill and Bill implemented. If I said he was in the military when the Cole was attacked obviously I LIED. What I intended to say was and thought I did say was that intel knew right away that Bin Laden did it. You said no they didn’t because it wasn’t on the news and I pointed out that not all intel reached the networks right away. The discussion was about Clinton’s inability to respond to a direct attack on one of our carriers.
WS when your childish games start at night I tune out. I did that kind of stuff in middle school. Or maybe it was elementary school. I would encourage you all to grow up. You all know no one is going to fight anyone. You are all a bunch of over the hill guys just as I am an over the hill gal and I won’t be challenging anyone here to a duel. Verbal tryst are only exciting for the participants which is why we are trying to get Chas to admit he erred in what he said to Nathan so it can be put to rest.
“I think Wilde might be Canadian and listed under the Canadian Royal Met. Assoc.”
http://www.cmos.ca/history.html
“The idea of separating from the Royal Meteorological Society and establishing an independent Society had been talked about during the 1950s. Both sides complained about the other and finally the question was discussed at the 1964 and 1965 Congresses. The formal decision was taken at the seventh and last Congress of the Canadian Branch in 1966 at the University of Sherbrooke in the presence and with the full concurrence of the president of the Royal Meteorological Society, who the Canadian members had invited to participate in this historic meeting. The Canadian Meteorological Society came into being on January 1, 1967 …”
HLP posted May 8, 2008 at 6:52 am
“Stephen Wilde has been a Fellow of the Royal Meteorological Society since 1968.”
“I think Wilde might be Canadian… I doubt he’s listed on the British list.”
http://www.rmets.org/membership/index.php
“Joining the Society
…
The Society is made up of weather enthusiasts, practitioners, students and scientists from across the world.”
Wichi we were at the downtown library at noon and the food aroma was overwhelming. They were having a military program with speakers on the front steps and played the ‘Star Spangled Banner’ on the chimes. It was beautiful. I felt downright patriotic.
Just out of curiosity, McCluer, why are you answering questions addressed to JM?
Did you chastise any and every poster that said you were JM? Didn’t you whine like a big fat baby every time someone even suggested that you were JM? Didn’t you deny being JM for eighteen months?
cosmos - sort of like the ‘Chemical Society (London)’ which was open to members from anywhere. I published in one of their Journals even though I am not British. They have standards but they do not include nationality.
Regular
Posted May 9, 2008 at 4:08 pm | Permalink
Shut up Clark, no one cares about your rantings, your son or your daughter.
Just go kill yourself and do the planet earth a favor.
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Regular, I mostly disagree with WSCLARK_ sometimes vehemwntly so, and have been attacked by many, but that is pretty vile. Why don;t you take a time out and not post on the blog for awhile, it seems to have not been kind to you.
“I’ve been a Fellow of the Royal Meteorological Society since 1968. Admittedly that was before a science qualification was required but I’ve been a weather and climate geek for over 50 years.”
“What happened to the ‘both sides’ issue that you were ragging Mr. Davis about?”
Grm, ragging on me? Impossible, I say. Will have to go check out that thread.
“Oh, and McCluer threatened to beat up my son - we’ll be selling tickets - my son is 6?3? and 275# of solid muscle - he would flat out wipe the floor with McCluer.”
It is hard to even imagine a more ridiculous contest. I think they call those types of threats as being the result of “keyboard courage”. It it just silliness.
“I think they call those types of threats as being the result of “keyboard courage”.”
JM has a lot of “keyboard courage” - he has none of the real courage.
He challenged me to fight - I called his bluff - he went to Denny’s and had a steak. I waited for him at the designated meeting place - he never showed.
I never claimed that Nathan had been turned in for anything. That makes Max a LIAR… And a flaming LIAR, since he/she already knows what was posted concerning Nathan. AND Max also knows that it was said upthread to just DROP IT!!
This response is not directd to Max the Flaming Liar, and mentally obsessed poster.
You have been busted so many times it’s ridiculous. I personally say the 1st item Max lists; your” explanation” was beyond lame.
I also personally read the threat to turn Nathan in to the Chaplains; whether to the Chief or th Corps makes no difference.
There’s more, but readers here know I needn’t go on.
You simply have no credibility, Chas. If you wrote the sun rose in the east, I’d have to go out and check to be sure. You’ve been busted too many times.
But it is fun to twist the knife, and see how many times and ways Chas can deny the undeniable, and twist what we’ve all read clearly.
Nathan, Max, I’ve got the popcorn and a beer waiting on me for tonight’s Chas show. I know you won’t let me down.
“Later, you said that your son left the Navy in 1992 because Clinton (Governor of Arkansas) cut his wages.Then you said that your son left the Navy in 1994.”
Is this anything like Hillary Clinton’s LIE about coming under fire?
You know Chas, if you’d just give up the “holier then thou” act and admit your mistakes and lies, life would be easier for you by admitting you’re human.
But it wouldn’t be nearly as much fun for the rest of us.
GMC I never posted ANYthing on this Blog, or any other Blog about “turning Nathan in” to anybody.
Now as an alleged prosecutor, you know full well that your words must be chosen more carefully, or you can be accused of perjury… like max, when he keeps claiming and counting numbers of what MAX calls lies… I specifically stated upthread that the two posts I posted were NOT directed at MAX…
Now, Mr. Prosecutor, either MAX is lying, or he just cant read… your take Counselor??
EADS North America spent $850,000 to lobby in first quarter
Friday May 9, 6:24 pm ET
EADS North America spent $850,000 in 1Q to lobby on Air Force tanker, other defense contracts
WASHINGTON (AP) — EADS North America, part of European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co., spent $850,000 on its own behalf in the first quarter to lobby on Pentagon contracts, including a massive Air Force order for aerial refueling tankers, according to a disclosure report filed April 22.
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The North American arm of the European aerospace and defense contractor, which is the parent of Airbus, focused much of its lobbying on Congress and the Defense Department during the first three months of the year.
EADS and its U.S. partner, Northrop Grumman Corp., recently beat out Boeing Co. for a $35 billion contract to supply 179 air-to-air refueling tankers to the Air Force. The deal is the first of three Air Force awards worth as much $100 billion to replace the entire fleet of nearly 600 tankers over the next 30 years.
Boeing, which has been supplying refueling tankers to the Air Force for 50 years, has filed a formal protest of the decision with the Government Accountability Office. And Boeing supporters in Congress have hauled Air Force officials up to Capitol Hill multiple times in recent weeks to explain their decision to award the contract to a team that includes a European company.
I got to thinking today about the poor sad existence the person who spams dead threads must live. Posting all day the URLs of porn sites. Probably one of those work-at-home scams.
Hell, I thought. They’re even more pathetic than “Regular!”
ONE Senator in a coma for 9 months… Liebermann voting with the Republicans on the War… How is it the Dems are accused of not doing anything in Congress??? Hmmm???
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CALIFORNIA’S POTEMKIN ENVIRONMENTALISM
A celebrated green economy produces pollution elsewhere, ongoing power shortages, and business-crippling costs
In January 2007, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger stood before the California legislature in Sacramento and delivered his fourth State of the State address since his improbable 2003 election. It was a rhetorical tour de force that would win him widespread acclaim. “California has the ideas of Athens and the power of Sparta,” said Schwarzenegger. “Not only can we lead California into the future; we can show the nation and the world how to get there.”
Schwarzenegger especially celebrated California for its leadership on energy and the environment. Just three months earlier, he had signed the Global Warming Solutions Act, committing California to reducing greenhouse-gas emissions to 1990 levels-roughly 25 percent below today’s-by 2020, and all but eliminating them by 2050. The Governator then lambasted the Bush administration for failing to tackle global warming: “It would not act, so California did. California has taken the leadership in moving the entire country beyond debate and denial to action.” Such performances have helped establish Schwarzenegger as a national figure, even a statesman, on the environment. In April 2007, he posed for the cover of Newsweek, spinning a globe on his finger under the banner leadership & the environment, and in September, he even addressed the United Nations on climate change.
Schwarzenegger’s reputation as an environmental trailblazer is in keeping with California’s recent history and self-perception. California’s political leaders, business titans, academics, and environmental activists proudly point to the fact that the state has infused its public policy over the last four decades with an environmental consciousness unmatched in the United States, while also maintaining a dynamic economy, arguably the eighth-largest on the planet, with a gross state product of more than $1.6 trillion. The widely shared assumption is that forward-looking Athenian wisdom has nourished awesome Spartan power.
In truth, however, the Golden State’s energy leadership is a mirage. California’s environmental policies have made it heavily dependent on other states for power; generated some of the highest, business-crippling energy costs in the country; and left it vulnerable to periodic electricity shortages. Its economic growth has occurred not because of, but despite, those policies, which would be disastrous if extended to the rest of the country.
Regular: I apologize for my comments last night. I’m sorry for what I posted. I let something another poster wrote get to me. I lost my self discipline and in the heat of the moment, did not stop to think that you are doing your part in your way - and no one has any right to question.
WriterDog: This one is harder, but I’m sorry I came unglued in response to your post. Something about it made me go over the edge. You have a son serving this nation and for that you too are part of the military family. I was wrong. I was also wrong to question your loyality and love of this country. I don’t know what the heck I was thinking. If I was to meet you on the street, at a parade, or on post or station, I would be shaking your hand and telling you how proud I am of you and your son’s service. After reading my post, I’m sure your family situation right now, to include a fresh new daughter-in-law? is not very different from my own and those I know serving today. I am grateful for your entire families sacrafice for this nation in time of war.
Sorry.
The rest of the article:
http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_2_californias_environmentalism.html
Good morning AmWay!
The ‘dog is a pretty good guy, however, he owes me a jelly donut!
Of course you are right Hank and it applies to most of the good people on this blog. If I was a couple of decades younger, someone should kick my butt. I’m ashamed for having posted last night.
GLOBAL COOLING UPDATE
The solar minimum continues. No sunspot activity. New cycle now delayed about 1 year. See current photo of sun.
http://www.spaceweather.com/
“The reason this matters is that there is a close correlation between variations in the sunspot cycle and Earth’s climate. The previous time a cycle was delayed like this was in the Dalton Minimum, an especially cold period that lasted several decades from 1790.”
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23583376-5013480,00.html
Someone from Wichita needs to schedule a meetup sometime here in the future.
P_Mom,
Talk to Hank. I think he stated he would be putting one together.
I wish to apologize to my fellow bloggers, the editorial staff of the Eagle and the readers of the WE blog.
For my uncensored outburst in the thread topic about the Web amendment and President G.W. Bush’s opposing giving the military improved G.I. benefits.
The person the sentiments were for will never see them, but other suffered them. That is not right and for that I apologize for. But to be clear, the apology does not extend to the person the comments are intended for, my harsh, uncensored words are fit and the least of the offenses committed in the last six years.
My comments some will think come from my person sacrifice, they do not. They were fit from the moment the first unarmored Humvee hit the street on patrol, the first moment when a soldier went into battle with inferior body armor. The first moment that it was realized that combat had not ended but had changed to a different form of combat. And there seemed to be foot dragging to provide the needed equipment to assure our troop safety and effective response. They were fitting from the moment the first soldier felt the sting of electric while taking a shower. The moment the water made them ill and their paid for supplies were withheld and traded on the black market.
The moment that in response to the question of why are you sending inferior equipped troop into harm’s way. And the reply was “you do not go to war with the troops you wish you had. But the troops you have!”.
From a S.O.D. of the country with the greatest military in the world. The moment that large shipments of weapons disappear only to turn up to be used against our troops.
Compared to the offenses that has happen prior to last night comments, my comments are not just mild but restrained. None the less no one whom would have read them deserves the offense of reading them. Less you were able to have changed the offenses that inspired them and failed to do so.
They could have been changed…they all didn’t have to happen at all had people been more critical of the information given and stopped being so partisan and actually thought of America first.
This war has had an enormous toll, and I have no patience at all for Bush apologists.
Hank when are you scheduling it?
AmWay, keep playing with em. I love your legislative updates, and it’s killing em wondering who you are and how you get this info.
And to Chas, if it’s information about what Government is doing, it must be illegally obatined. Government shouldn’t be transparent and accountable to the people. The actions of the State Legislature are not public info?
Hmmm….Marxist State is what some would prefer - as long as you get free stuff and don’t have to work.
The details in your updates AmWay paint the picture of our corrupt and incompetent Government, a picture many do not want The People to see. If enough People actually paid attention to the details, they’d find that’s where the devil is and they’d get p-o enough to perhaps even make some change happen in our government. But, most just want to sit around and btich, and hold their hand out.
AmWay, whoever you are, keep up the informative posts! Eventually, the info about our Government in action (or inaction) might trickle thru the thick skulls of some of the whiners and complainers, and MAYBE they will get off their a** and do something other then btich about it.
Look at the ‘trifecta’ bush is handing off to his would be successor, contained in the first paragraph.
Didn’t Rove say something about Republican dominance for generations! LOL
McCain likely to be outspent in election By Andy Sullivan
Fri May 9, 1:04 AM ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - He backs an unpopular war in Iraq, represents an unpopular political party and is endorsed by an unpopular president in the midst of an economic downturn.
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As if that’s not enough, Republican John McCain could be heavily outspent by his Democratic rival in the U.S. election in November to succeed President George W. Bush.
For every $1 the Arizona senator has raised, Democrat Barack Obama has raised $3. Hillary Clinton, unlikely at this point to beat Obama for the Democratic nomination, has raised two and a half times as much as McCain.
McCain is likely to have enough to compete with either Obama or Clinton, his campaign and Republican strategists say. But several acknowledged that the yawning money gap is another sign of the uphill battle any Republican would face this year.
“I can’t emphasize enough how terrible the political environment is for Republicans,” said one Republican strategist who requested anonymity to speak candidly. “It is dreadful.”
McCain raised $77 million through the end of March, campaign finance records show. Obama raised $235 million by that point, while Clinton raised $189 million.
Sectors like finance and real estate that traditionally favor Republicans have given more to both Democrats this time, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
And a larger portion of the Democrats’ money has come from donations of $200 or less — a sign of widespread support.
Obama and Clinton need that cash to continue their own battle for the Democratic nomination, while McCain clinched the Republican nomination in March.
But if trends continue, McCain is likely to be outspent significantly by the eventual Democratic nominee.
McCain’s campaign is preparing to take $84 million in public funding after the Republican Party convention in September and he is challenging Obama to stick by last year’s pledge to use public money and its accompanying spending limits.
“It would be unfortunate for the Democratic nominee, particularly if it was Barack Obama, to go back on his commitment to the public financing system,” McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said.
‘A DISTRACTION’
Combined with other funding sources, McCain should have roughly $115 million to last the final two months of the campaign, said Colby College political science professor Anthony Corrado, a campaign finance expert.
Republican strategists expect Obama or Clinton could raise $200 million or more for the final sprint.
That means a bigger budget for television advertising and get-out-the-vote efforts that could put Republican strongholds like Montana and Virginia in play, Corrado said.
Republican experts say McCain will not be hurt by the money gap because the race at that point is likely to be determined by debates, media coverage and e-mail and other relatively cheap online communication methods.
“Neither side’s going to lose because of lack of money,” said Ron Kaufman, who advised Mitt Romney’s unsuccessful campaign for the Republican nomination and served as a political adviser to former President George H.W. Bush.
Fundraising in the general election is “a distraction,” said Michael Toner, a former Republican chairman of the Federal Election Commission.
“You’ve got to prepare for the debates, you’ve got to get out the vote. The last thing you want to be doing is going to some ballroom in Beverly Hills in September to raise money.”
Strategists also point to the Republican National Committee, which is sitting on more cash than its Democratic counterpart and will benefit from a McCain joint fundraising effort that allows donors to give up to $70,000, far above the $2,300 limit for individual candidates.
McCain brought in $7 million to be shared with the Republican National Committee at a New York fundraiser on Wednesday, said a source close to the campaign.
Still, several strategists acknowledged that the record sums raised by Democrats serve as a worrisome indicator.
“I think it’s clearly going to be a tough environment,” said Scott Reed, who managed 1996 Republican nominee Bob Dole’s presidential bid. “But you know, McCain’s challenge is to overcome all that and rebrand the party his way.”
(Additional reporting by Tim Gaynor, editing by John O’Callaghan)
What’s with all the mea culpas today? When the RW repubs. apologizes for calling anyone who initially opposed this Iraq fiasco ‘terrorist sympathizers’, ‘traitors’, and ‘unamerican’ (among a few of the insults), then maybe a mea culpa might be appropriate.
Especially since even knowing what they do now, the 27%ers would do it all over!
Thank you American Way, I too was caught up in the moment. I had backed out of that topic once because I feel as I do. You are right we all do what we can and perhaps it is the frustration of not do more. I inherited a pride and admiration for the Military from my dad whom served in Korea. It was strengthen and brought out by several personal experiences.
My comments last night did not come from a hatred of Bush or for that matter my son being a soldier.
They have been stewing since the first time I learn of slights done to returning personnel even from the Vietnam war. Compounded by the slights done with this war, some listed in my apology above.
But as I said in my apology it was wrong of me to suffer other whom can not change them.
In my defense though, these offenses are not just talking points for some political blog.
They are being done to our troops and for a country that is the richest, most powerful and prideful in the world. There can be no excuse for such failures, there is not a lack of money to excuse it. There is not a lack of knowledge to excuse it.
Regular brought up a valid point, Congress holds the power of oversight and they have fail in it.
Many above our pay grade have dropped the ball and damn them at least for some it has been political for them. Of this we might agree, its not just Republican or Democrat its more they are being Politicians instead of Americans. From what I have received on the matter it is not a lack of citizens responding, the response I get back are form letters that are so generic. That they could easily be as much for my complain about the lack of over sighting the shortages in providing for our troops. As it could be if I was complaining about a pothole in the street.
Thank you for your service to our country.
ROFL, I told you Hank (damn it hard to laugh and type at the same time!!!) name your poison! Jelly is open to many different flavors. You pick your favorite and you can have one or a box load!
For what it’s worth, I asked the editor to remove my own offensive posts and apologized for my use of profanity. Not sure why, but Phil only removed two of the three.
In other news, oil hits new peak for the fifth straight day.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080509/bs_nm/markets_oil_dc_40
Phantom I have a feeling that within the next ten years there will be many “mea culpa” from many sides.
Passions wan, minds cool and realities become clearer There has been many displaced blames because a feeling of frustrations. WE “grow angry at the wind”, but know that yelling at the wind is meaningless.
So we yell at each other, when the others are no more responsible for the wind they we are. We pee on the fire we feel trapped in. Knowing that it does no good, but at least it is doing something about something we can not change.
“keep up the informative posts”
Thanks Max. Not sure why someone from Des Plaines would care to read them, but you’ve probably seen the last of them for sometime. Except maybe for a quick post at the end of the month.
I should have more time for posting normal conservative opinions which get labled perverse, convoluted, neocon, religious rightist, evil republican type posts.
Good idea AW, I have not gotten around to looking and seeing if mine was still there.
Last night, while idly channel-surfing the vast wasteland of available offerings for non-cable subscribers, I clicked on one of the fundamentalist-dominated channels. Normally, I would pass this by, but the beauteous face of Eduardo Verastegui stopped me in my tracks.
This gentleman was the lead actor in “Bella”, a wonderful film which I first viewed on Thanksgiving evening. If the film’s creators and thespians had equated all pro-choice womem with something on the menu at Wendy’s (The Baconator)…..if they had callously dismissed women’s sufferings through the decades in one fell, foul swoop…..if they had stooped to name-calling before the opening credits rolled, I would have walked out.
And what a cinematic jewel I would have missed.
As the stunningly handsome Verastegui attested last night, this is the way to touch hearts and restore hope (or, in my case, to create hope where none existed).
Let this film be a lesson to the most virulent of anti’s: You won’t transform others by alienating them in the extreme.
A pregnant, unemployed and massively depressed teenager cannot do it alone, however much my giving birth would have been the most moral choice. In my case, I do indeed believe this to be so. Yet……
What would you have had me do, I ask you? Stand at the entrance to I-70, thumb aloft, with a sign saying, “Preggo in Need?” greeting the prurient and noncommittal? A crisis pregnancy demands the best of everyone: the clergy, family, educators, parents, friends and, of course, myself.
Hays Kansas is a helluva long way away from Southern California. The landscape is far improved nowadays, thank goodness. My former confessor was instrumental in eliminating the parochial schools’ policy of automatically expelling pregnant teenagers. I am grateful and respectful of this. Most individuals have real families, real connections with their significant others, and the love and support of those important to them.
I had none of this.
But I am grateful for the gift of “Bella” and shall remain so for the rest of my life. Some months ago, I received an e-mail from a priest who reviewed the film nearly one year ago. He didn’t call me names. He didn’t lambast me for my waistline. Astonishingly, he conveyed that he had given thought to what I had said. Finally, he was glad the film had moved me so.
Let this be a lesson to anti-choice activists: This is a wonderful way to touch hearts. Name-calling, whether toward Hillary Clinton, Dr. Tiller and/or his staff - is not.
It’s worth going to look.
The 8:18 PM post I think is particualarly interesting.
by any other name and all that.
“calling anyone who initially opposed this Iraq fiasco”
Phantom it had nothing to do with someones stand on the war nor opposition/support of Bush. At least for me anyway. It’s over.
Good morning P-Mom!
It’s hard for me to get one together. Joyce and I will be gone most weekends doing dog and horse stuff. I’ll try and maybe work out a cookout in June at our club house by the lake.
How does June 21st or 22nd sound to every one? I’ll supply hamburgers/hotdogs, pot luck on the rest?
Hank
Des Plaines, right AmWay. LOL.
Never said where I was, but many are dying to know. And Davis I know misses me very much when I’m gone.
Could be in Timbuktu for all anyone knows.
Constantinople maybe?
Look at how the Union helped protect Illegal Immigrants! I thought the Union helped AMERICAN workers!
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080508/NEWS03/80508024/0/NEWS03
Guilty verdict in Swift case
ASSOCIATED PRESS • May 8, 2008
A former union representative who helped illegal workers get jobs at a Swift & Co. meatpacking plant in Marshalltown was found guilty of federal immigration charges today.
A jury found Braulio Pereyra-Gabino guilty of harboring illegal immigrants but acquitted him on other charges that included false use of a Social Security number and aggravated identity theft.
He faces up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.
Pereyra-Gabino was working as vice president of Local 1149 of the United Food and Commercial Workers union when he was arrested by federal immigration officials in July 2007.
Prosecutors contend that he told undocumented workers how to escape detection and protect their fake identities used to get jobs at the Marshalltown plant.
Not far from Salina.
Hey, Max, when we put Obama in the White House, the first thing he’s going to do is confiscate all your guns. Then he’s going to melt them down and stamp peace signs out of them and force you stick one on your car.
Then he’s going to take all your money and give it to people who mainline heroin and cocaine.
Just thought I’d warn you.
Obama Now Takes The Lead in Superdelegates Too
May 09, 2008 6:19 AM
ABC News’ Karen Travers Reports: For the first time this campaign season, Barack Obama has surpassed Hillary Clinton’s support among superdelegates, according to the ABC News delegate estimate.
Sen. Obama, D-Ill., picked up two superdelegates this morning giving him a new metric to tout in addition to his current commanding leads in pledged delegates, popular votes, states won, and money raised.
*****
It’s sooo over.
92 year old woman - victim of the war on drugs.
Ex-cop: Officers routinely lied to obtain search warrants
By STEVE VISSER
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 05/08/08
A former Atlanta police officer testified Thursday that narcotics officers routinely lied under oath when seeking search warrants — a practice that led to police killing a 92-year-old woman.
Former Detective Gregg Junnier told a Fulton County jury that detectives would tell judges that they had verified their informants had bought cocaine from dealers by searching them for drugs before the buy took place.
“I have never seen anyone searched before they go into the house ” I’ve never seen that done ” even though officers always swear to it,” Junnier said. “It’s done that way in 90 percent of the warrants that are written.”
But it wasn’t just lies to get the warrant to search Kathryn Johnston’s home that made Junnier uneasy, he said. He had an inkling something was wrong when he and Officer Jason R. Smith were leading the narcotics team to the front door. He said the northwest Atlanta house differed from the informant’s description.
“I said, ‘Man, this doesn’t look right,’ and he said, ‘I know,’ ” Junnier testified. ” ‘I said what do you want to do.’ He said, ‘Hit it.’”
A minute later, Johnston was lying on her floor, dying.
Junnier testified at the Superior Court trial of one of his former partners, Arthur Tesler, who was guarding the back of Johnston’s Neal Street home on that day, Nov. 21, 2006.
Junnier and Smith pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter and face up to 10 and 12 years in prison, respectively, depending on their cooperation. Tesler faces 15 years on charges of lying in an official investigation, violating his oath as an officer and false imprisonment, a charge stemming from illegally surrounding Johnston’s house.
Junnier, whose confession unraveled the case, is to testify again today.
“I have already asked for forgiveness from God and everybody I can,” he said.
On the day of the raid, Junnier said he knew Smith had lied to a magistrate to get the no-knock warrant — which allows police to break in before identifying themselves — to seize the cocaine they had been told was in the house.
Junnier testified that Smith, who had sworn out the warrant, had lied about more than searching the informant for drugs. Smith swore that a reliable confidential informant had bought cocaine from the Johnston house, Junnier said. In actuality, he said, they relied on Fabian Sheats, a low-level dealer arrested earlier that day.
Junnier said they had confidence in Sheats’ descriptions, which detailed the drugs, location and a dealer named “Sam,” whom Sheats said worked from the house.
He said the chance to seize a kilo — 2.2 pounds — of cocaine also drove the officers, who normally made arrests for much smaller amounts.
In the raid, police fired 39 shots. Junnier was shot in the face, chest and leg. Two other officers were also wounded. Investigators determined Johnston had fired one round from a revolver; the officers were shot in their own crossfire.
Junnier described entering Johnston’s house: “She was still alive. She was gasping for air. I heard … the order to cuff her.”
Later that day, he said, the cover-up began.
The impact of it being over will depend on how the loser loses. Let’s hope gracefully.
WASHINGTON - Former CIA operative Valerie Plame is trying to resurrect a lawsuit against those in the Bush administration she says illegally disclosed her identity.
A federal judge dismissed Plame’s lawsuit last year, saying there was no basis to bring a case. Plame’s lawyers asked a federal appeals court Friday to send the case back before the judge and force him to consider its merits.
Plame and her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, sued Vice President Dick Cheney; his former chief of staff, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby; former White House political adviser Karl Rove and former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage.
Plame’s CIA position was revealed in a syndicated newspaper column in 2003, during a time when her husband was criticizing the march to war in Iraq. Armitage and Rove were the original sources for that story, which Plame believes was retribution for Wilson’s criticism.
Wow, Dave, it looks like another “drug related death.”
Majority of Hill Stands Against D.C. Gun Ban
Members to File Friend-of-the-Court Brief in 2nd Amendment Case Before Justices
By Robert Barnes
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, February 8, 2008
A majority of the Senate and more than half of the members of the House will file a brief today urging the Supreme Court to uphold a ruling that the District’s handgun ban violates the Second Amendment.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/07/AR2008020703689.html
The MAJORITY OF CONGRESS stands up for the 2nd Amendment today.
But NOT Clinton.
But NOT Obama.
You LIBS will LOVE the agenda of Obama who does not want you to have the right to defend your own life, in your own home!
Barack Obama’s Slippery Oratory
by Wayne LaPierre, Executive Vice President
NRA Standing Guard - April 11, 2008
To understand Barack Obama on the Second Amendment, you have to know about the clash of character between the then-Chicago state senator and an ordinary citizen who exercised his right to armed self-defense in violation of a local gun ban.
That citizen was a 52-year-old resident of Wilmette, Illinois, who, on Dec. 28, 2003, woke to find that, during the night, his home had been invaded by a career criminal; a thief who stole household items, keys and the homeowner’s car.
The victim, Hale DeMar, described his fear in a letter to the Chicago Sun- Times: “For me, the seconds until I found my children still safely tucked in their beds were horrifying . . . The police were called and in routine fashion they came, took the report and with little concern left, promising to increase surveillance. Little comfort, since the invader now had keys to our home and our automobiles. The police informed me that this was not an uncommon event in east Wilmette and offered their condolences . . .” Not 24 hours after the first burglary, the thief returned. Using DeMar’s house keys, the man entered the home, this time setting off the alarm system, automatically notifying the security company. Given the previous night’s lackluster response by police, DeMar was prepared, armed with a handgun–legally purchased years before and kept in a safe. But under Wilmette’s gun ban, that firearm in the home was illegal.
DeMar confronted the criminal, and believing his children were in danger, shot the burglar, who then fled the home.
“Until you are shocked by a piercing alarm in the middle of the night and met in your kitchen by a masked invader as your children shudder in their beds, until you confront that very real nightmare, please don’t suggest that some village trustee knows better … “If my actions have spared only one family from the distress and trauma that this habitual criminal has caused hundreds of others, then I have served my civic duty and taken one evil creature off of our streets, something that our impotent criminal justice system had failed to do, despite some thirty odd arrests, plea bargains and suspended sentences.” The burglar, who was arrested after driving DeMar’s stolen SUV to a hospital, had an extensive criminal record.
Cook County prosecutors ultimately declared DeMar’s use of a firearm to be justified. But Wilmette village officials pressed nonetheless to prosecute him for illegal possession of his handgun–a charge punishable by a huge fine and jail time. A town official was quoted in Reason magazine saying, “We need to set the example that we’re trying to protect our citizens.” And he said, DeMar–by possessing a legally purchased handgun–”is endangering innocent civilians.” The outcry of the Illinois public was heard all the way to the state capitol.
As a result, the Illinois House and Senate passed legislation in May 2004 to protect citizens who use handguns in self-defense in their homes or businesses despite local handgun bans.
The House accepted the DeMar selfdefense bill by a vote of 86-25 and the Senate moved the legislation on a 38-20 vote.
And here lies the seminal moment for state Senator Barack Obama. When Obama turned thumbs down on the bill, he voted against the most basic element of the Second Amendment– the right of defense of self and family– the reason that millions of Americans own firearms.
When the governor vetoed the bill, Obama once again voted against a citizen’s right to self-defense.
Despite his vote, the veto override passed the Senate and the House by overwhelming majorities, thereby enacting this bill into law.
Now, fast forward to today’s slippery oratory of U.S. Sen. Barack Obama just three years from being an unknown state senator–now morphed by the media into a spellbinding u.s. senator seeking to be president of the United States.
Using words like “protecting sportsmen,” Obama is now saying that he believes in the Second Amendment … but with almost universal exceptions, all of which he lists under the heading of “common sense gun safety laws.” “Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? Like endorsing the D.C. gun ban, which outlaws armed self-defense in the home–now being challenged before the u.s. Supreme Court. Obama, who as president would be in the position to nominate justices to that high court, has declared that the d.c. ban doesn’t violate the Second Amendment.
“Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? In a “1998 National Political Awareness Test,” he pledged to support a “Ban [on] the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons”–meaning most handguns and many rifles and shotguns that you and I own.
“Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? Like demanding that the federal government preempt the 40 hard-won state laws creating Right-to-Carry.
Here’s how the Chicago Tribune put it: “Obama said he opposed allowing ordinary citizens to carry concealed weapons and that a federal law banning concealed carried weapons except for law enforcement is needed.” “Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? Like the draconian proposals funded to the tune of $18,000,000 by the rabidly anti-gun Joyce Foundation while Obama was an activist member of its board of directors.
Obama’s alleged support of the Second Amendment is utterly cynical and false. Barack Obama is not for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms; he`s out to destroy it.
http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=418899
Ah, Max is back with more scroll over material.
Does Brooks have something here? And is the Tory agenda a lot different than that espoused by the religious right portion of the Republican party?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/09/opinion/09brooks.html?em&ex=1210478400&en=29b06ed4f402e3c5&ei=5087%0A
“Swift & Co. meatpacking plant in Marshalltown”
Max I’ll bet you are just trying to throw us off because you are embarrassed to be from some tiny
Podunk Hollow in Kansas. Some little burg where the big excitement is watching the beagles mate in the dust on mainstreet on Saturday night.
The union is an international brotherhood. Perhaps they are taking any warm body they can get their hands on to pay union dues. With less than what is it 12% of Americans union members, it only makes sense that they are sneaking them in on union 18 wheeler rigs.
“Max is back with more scroll over material”
You know Davis, you might disagree with Max, but he provides links and sources to his post data.
Not sure who elected you to advise the blog, but why don’t you do your scrolling over on your own, and not worry what anyone else is doing.
Max has made another point here - and neither democratic candidate signed the brief to the Supreme Court regarding private handgun ownership. That’s important information to many gun owners, and constitutionalists alike.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/07/AR2008020703689.html
The MAJORITY OF CONGRESS stands up for the 2nd Amendment today.
But NOT Clinton.
But NOT Obama.”
What happened to Hillary wearing a hunting vest and going duck hunting after a shot or two of whisky?
It would be nice to get honest answers from Obama on these questions. He won’t answer them though.
HOPE.
CHANGE.
HOPE.
CHANGE.
1. Will Obama promise to balance the Federal budget?
2. Will Obama push through the largest tax increase in the history of the USA?
3. Will Obama pull US troops out of Iraq on or before 12/31/2009?
4. Will Obama provide any details on his National Health Care plan before the election, to include:
a)Details of what is Covered and what is Excluded,
b)Details on Premium Costs,
c)Details on the annual cost to the Federal Government?
5. Will Obama sign legislation that will effectively ban handguns and all semi-automatic shotguns and rifles?
6. Will Obama solve the Social Security/Medicare fiscal crisis?
Capn brought it up. So I obliged an answer.
As for Hillary and her hunting stories - Bat Sh*t!!!
AmWay - Did I miss something?
“Some little burg where the big excitement is watching the beagles mate in the dust on mainstreet on Saturday night.”
Out in west Kansas the best I ever saw were two women going at it! Didn’t see the beagles though.
“GLOBAL COOLING UPDATE
The solar minimum continues. No sunspot activity. New cycle now delayed about 1 year. See current photo of sun.”
However, here on planet earth:
“Earth just experienced its warmest Northern Hemisphere winter on record, according to statistics released today by the National Climatic Data Center. The 3-month Northern Hemisphere winter period December 2006 through February 2007 had an average global temperature +0.72?C (+1.30?F) above normal, beating the previous record set in 2004 by a substantial +0.12?C. The Northern Hemisphere had its warmest winter ever measured, and the Southern Hemisphere (where it was summer) had its 4th warmest summer on record.”
So - we have solar conditions that should make it ’super-cold’ but continue to set records for warmth here on palnet earth.
http://www.wunderground.com/education/2007winter.asp
I”m not going there today Max.LOL.
Sounds a bit like an endorsement, but headline calls it praise.
Obama wins praise from former rival John Edwards
“What he brings to the table is the capacity, number one, to unite the Democratic Party,” Edwards, a former North Carolina senator, told NBC’s “Today” show.
“Number two, to bring in new voters, to bring in people who haven’t been involved in the process over a long time and to get people excited about this change.”
http://tinyurl.com/3v3d8e
How does June 21st or 22nd sound?
Summer solstice, longest day of the year.
sunset at 8:54.
May 9th, 2008.
Still have not been contacted by anyone Chas.
“Nathaniel” struts –
“Still have not been contacted by anyone.”
They’re probably afraid you’ll shoot them.
Writerdog,
I often wonder if you are truly serious about your convictions or if they are pretend only because they further your dislike for Bush.
“They were fit from the moment the first unarmored Humvee hit the street on patrol,”
Humvee were never meant to be armored. Our military was not equiped to be completely protected from all sorts of IED attacks.
We adapted as does the enemy. Every time we upgraded the armor, they changed how they attacked the aromor.
We put armor on the sides, they attack the bottom. We put armor on the bottom, they attack the top. We try to armor the top, they use more explosives and simply destroy the armor.
You can only do so much to a Humvee. We can’t give every soldier his own personal tank. It is not practical.
“the first moment when a soldier went into battle with inferior body armor.”
We have never issued body armor like we have now to all troops. We fought every war before this one without body armor like we have now.
“The first moment that it was realized that combat had not ended but had changed to a different form of combat. And there seemed to be foot dragging to provide the needed equipment to assure our troop safety and effective response.”
Foot dragging? We are upgrading and fixing our equipment constantly in response to the different tactics being used against us.
“They were fitting from the moment the first soldier felt the sting of electric while taking a shower.”
Like what? Maybe one or two? Shit happens. The fact that you are using it to further your political crap makes you hardly any better. How many soldiers were electricuted in the shower? Please let me know.
“The moment the water made them ill and their paid for supplies were withheld and traded on the black market.”
Who is this “them” you speak of? No one was ill the 7 months I was there from water.
“The moment that in response to the question of why are you sending inferior equipped troop into harm’s way. And the reply was “you do not go to war with the troops you wish you had. But the troops you have!”
That is the truth. Our military is one of the bext trained and equiped in the world and was before we attacked. You simply can’t have the “perfectly” equiped military at all times.
Especially when the liberals fight paying for any of it at every turn.
“From a S.O.D. of the country with the greatest military in the world. The moment that large shipments of weapons disappear only to turn up to be used against our troops.”
A tragedy yes, but hardly the status quo.
You cherry pick events and string them toegether as if it is the status quo. How absurd.
Oh my God, “Nathaniel” –
You mean the “enemy” actually fought back?!
Nathan, those wheels of justice sure are slow.
Or, could it be that Chas lied and didn’t actually contact the Marine pastors to complain? Or did they laugh their a**es off at him?
And I had all this popcorn bought for the trial (and the discovery) too!
“And I had all this popcorn bought for the trial (and the discovery) too!”
Keep it Max. Maybe they can do the OJ chase thing.
Nathan can take off in his big pickemtruck with the gun rack full, and Chas and the Chaplain Corps can chase him along I-35!
Chas will have to be wielding his bat out the window, but Nathan can have his Glock.
Don’t forget about Chas’ bayonet! THAT, would be really scary!
wtg, AmWay!
You scold Steven for saying he scrolls past vs just scrolling past.
But there aren’t any double standards, are there? Sauce for the goose and all that.
Linda,
I didn’t tell you to scroll over anyone did I?
Did I tell any poster what to do? Max had a great point with the gun banning democratic candidates.
Davis said to scroll it over.
I’m not seeing the connection.
The “Nathan Immenient Arrest” scandal is widely known by bloggers. I am very concerned for Nathan’s well-being and potential incarceration in the federal pen. He faces grave charges from the Chaplain Corps.
I was trying to infuse some laughter, playing off Max’s post, so Nathan doesn’t get too far into the dumps with his pending courts-martial.
Aren’t you worried too Linda? Chas has made some serious allegations. Nathan could get life.
Didn’t Chas have a bat behind his door? Or was that some other poster?
bth posted May 9, 2008 at 12:36 pm
“So - we have solar conditions that should make it ’super-cold’ but continue to set records for warmth here on palnet earth.”
Exactly. It’s (very roughly) like warming a house with a heater, and then also turning on the A/C. The A/C is helping offset the heater, but the deniers insist that the heater was turned off.
Some great graphs showing the long-term warming trend, and short-term cooling from volcanoes.
‘Uncertainty, noise and the art of model-data comparison’
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/01/uncertainty-noise-and-the-art-of-model-data-comparison
I think we’re all capable of knowing who we want to scroll over and who we find interesting to read. In fact, many of us can read things in posts that aren’t even said, without missing connections.
I agree with you Linda. I read what I want and pass over what I don’t. I just read that long article on the ‘religious right’ that Steven linked to. I didn’t see much difference in what they have and what the mainstream conservative party have here. I think it is called being a ‘compassionate conservative’.
I also share AmWays concern for Nathan. It can’t be fun having this hang over your head for this long. Maybe Chas should be the strong one here and withdraw the charges.
Maybe we should all behave as adults, but that’s probably not going to happen either. What was it you were saying yesterday about gaggles or gangs or congregations or whatever?
AmericanWay,
Chas is a goofball. He chastised me and others for being prepared to defend ourselves with deadly force.
Yet he brags about how ready he is to defend himself with a bayonet.
The irony is so thick it makes me want to cry that he still doesn’t get it or simply refuses to.
The stupidity of wanting to use a bayonet to defend yourself rather than a gun makes me wonder about Chas as well.
The truth is that nothing can happen to me from any Chaplain based on what I say or do on this blog.
I simply think Chas is absurd for thinking something will and I think he is a liar for saying he contacted anyone.
Nathan
I don’t hang out here as much as some folk do.
What is Chas holding over your head thats got everyone shaking in their boots over?
Heckler,
Chas said he contacted the Chaplains Corp to complain about how I treated him here.
He thinks they will do something to me because I keep saying that Chas is not a Christian.
That was a few weeks ago now, and I still have not heard anything.
HLP posted May 8, 2008 at 6:52 am
“Stephen Wilde has been a Fellow of the Royal Meteorological Society since 1968.”
Dear Hank Price,
Why isn’t “Stephen Wilde” listed at RMETS?
http://www.rmets.org/about/people/fellows.php
“Below is a list of Fellows of the Society entitled to use FRMetS as a sign of professional competence.”
Nathan
Has anyone set up a legal defense fund for you yet?
If so, let me know, I might be able to kick in some beer.
Hey Hank! If there is a “gathering” (I keep thinking of the the gathering on Clan of the Cave Bear),you can have a collection hat out so we can all contribute a little something towards Nathans legal fees.
Perhaps Chas is confusing being a Christian with being a Presbyterian?
[/flamesuit].
Many AGW deniers (Hank, Nathan, et al) rely on Heartland for their “science”(sic).
They seem unable to understand that natural climate variablity, and human induced variability are two separate issues.
http://www.desmogblog.com/drip-drip-drip-heartlands-credibility-leaks-steadily-away
“Matthew Reichbach of the New Mexico Centre for Independent Media contributes another name and another quote from scientists objecting to being added to the Heartland Institute’s overcooked list of scientists who deny climate change.
“From what I can tell, the list was compiled mostly from reviewed scientific articles in which authors proposed or identified various sources of natural variability in climate; in my case solar irradiance and cosmic ray flux.
I’m not sure of the intent of the compilation of 500 names, but the supplied information seems to suggest 500 authors have questioned human induced variability.
This does not hold in my case and probably does not in the case of many others.”
Roger Y. Anderson, University of New Mexico “
Hey AmWay,
Send all donations to me! Cash only please, no small bills.
The court marshall will be in NO and I’ll need a little ‘walking around’ money.
New Orleans! Bourbon Street?
If Chas hurries the Chaplain Corps up with their investeegayshun, perhaps the Courts-martial could be beld for Mardi Gras 2009!
New Orleans! Bourbon Street?
If Chas hurries the Chaplain Corps up with their investeegayshun, perhaps the Courts-martial could be held in time for Mardi Gras 2009!
If Nathan registers his defense fund as a non-profit, then I could get a tax deduction on that cash.
Nathaniel
Posted May 9, 2008 at 2:24 pm | Permalink
Heckler,
Chas said he contacted the Chaplains Corp to complain about how I treated him here.
=========================================
Stop Lying, Nathan(iel) — I never said any such thing!! Why do you have a problem with Truth??
That’s the good part about being divinely assigned Chas.
As fundies tend to see themselves.
They never do anything wrong and they are already forgiven anyway.
Admittedly I’m not an expert on this blog and I don’t get to spend a lot of time posting, but what happened to the thread from yesterday about you know, the word I objected to? I replied to someone and wanted to read their response.
Is there a way I can search for my post to find the thread?
Chas, Chas, Chas too many of us followed the entire conversation. Please don’t embarras youself like this. Just say you made a misstatement and move on.
I have had to do that and even though I did WS still throws it up but I admitted it so what.
Check back on that Thread from yesterday Wichi
Granny — I NEVER said what Nathan just posted upthread I said… But its good for you to show up just to try your usual demeaning and belittling of me once again!!
YOU need to go back and read AGAIN what it is I actually said to Nathan…. What I told Nathan I would do, has been done…
Once again, your reading comprehension and your ability to understand what you read speaks volumes for the bulk of your difficulty here, Granny!!!!
You got THAT right Blue Jay!!
chas you have no need to belittle me. I was just giving you what I think is good advise. Your ability to deny something the entire blog read says more about you than I ever could.
I have no desire to put you down. As I said yesterday you perplex me but that is all.
Chas,
Then who did you contact?
Grm… If you think you know so damn much, why dont you show that I said what Nathan just posted upthread that I said… I NEVER SAID THAT — And if you had followed the conversation, you would know better… But NO, you just fall into lock step with the Reich Wingers, and ask ME to admit to a misstatement that I didnt make??? You have got to be kidding… or else you really ARE the Blog Wench!!
Wichi
Sorry I missed meeting you.
Google is your friend. Search engine math too.
Do this in the search bar…
“WE Blog”+”Max”+”(that word)”_
Or something like that. If it was an open thread, add “open” to the search math
Hank,
I hope another date is selected, but know you can’t please everyone! After missing the first couple of meet ups, I hate to miss another. The weekend of June 21 I am having my big five-OH?!? bday bash.
Nathan, you are the self-proclaimed Know it all… Did you forget already?? I am not going back over all of that again… I have no intention of doing any more or less than I have already done… What I said I would do, has been done… I will have no more contacts on the matter… Sorry, you are flaming the wrong bush!!
Chas,
I didn’t forget. You said you knew the head Chaplain and that you had filed a complaint against me.
If not word for word, something pretty close.
I am not a liar. You obviously contacted someone as you just said so yourself.
So how am I a liar?
Chas
Posted April 24, 2008 at 6:00 pm | Permalink
Nathan, be certain, the contacts have been made. I have no more to do with the time line beyond that. The time line is in the hands of the Chief of Chaplains. Nuff said!!
____________________
Nuff said!!
Now drop it Chas, please.
cosmos, I addressed the Wilde thing last night.
I think Wilde might be Canadian and listed under the Canadian Royal Met. Assoc.
Did you check that list?
I doubt he’s listed on the British list.
Yep Grrm… thats what I said… not the Chaplains Corp… not that I know the Chief of Chaplains… just that contact has been made… period… I didnt bring it UP, Granny!! LOL Lady, you are just too much!! But as you quoted, I said long ago, Nuff Said!! LOL
Nathan, I also never said that it was because of the way you treat me… That is one reason you are a liar… The other is cause you told Heckler I contacted the Chaplains Corp… which is also NOT TRUE…
Get it now??? Just speak the Truth Nathan…
Stop flaming it… and, as Granny said….
DROP IT!! (the time line is not in my hands)
“I have had to do that and even though I did WS still throws it up but I admitted it so what.”
No you didn’t - you said that you “made a mistake” not that you lied.
You said that your son was stationed with the Navy in the Middle East at the time of the Cole attack and that “everybody there knew that al Qaeda was behind the attack.”
Later, you said that your son left the Navy in 1992 because Clinton (Governor of Arkansas) cut his wages.
Then you said that your son left the Navy in 1994.
You lied, plain and simple, but you choose to call it a “mistake.”
Yeah, right.
Then you said that your son
Libs love to bash Rush. But one thing is true for the Libs, It really is “all about the children”
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/08/BAIR10J9JC.DTL&feed=rss.news
Too quick with the trigger finger……………….
Then you said that your son was “off limits” for the discussion.
Fine, you brought his service up (not that I would ever denigrate the military service of anyone) but who is counting?
But I notice that you have never chastised McCluer when he accuses me of having sex with my daughters or being sexually abusive to my granddaughter.
What happened to the “both sides” issue that you were ragging Mr. Davis about?
Oh, and McCluer threatened to beat up my son - we’ll be selling tickets - my son is 6′3″ and 275# of solid muscle - he would flat out wipe the floor with McCluer.
WS once and for all just to make you happy. I lied. I lied. I lied. My son left the Navy in 1994 because of the cuts Hill and Bill implemented. If I said he was in the military when the Cole was attacked obviously I LIED. What I intended to say was and thought I did say was that intel knew right away that Bin Laden did it. You said no they didn’t because it wasn’t on the news and I pointed out that not all intel reached the networks right away. The discussion was about Clinton’s inability to respond to a direct attack on one of our carriers.
I lied. I lied.
Did you get that WS?
WS when your childish games start at night I tune out. I did that kind of stuff in middle school. Or maybe it was elementary school. I would encourage you all to grow up. You all know no one is going to fight anyone. You are all a bunch of over the hill guys just as I am an over the hill gal and I won’t be challenging anyone here to a duel. Verbal tryst are only exciting for the participants which is why we are trying to get Chas to admit he erred in what he said to Nathan so it can be put to rest.
“WS when your childish games start at night I tune out. I did that kind of stuff in middle school.”
Do you mean like lying to try to make a point about a political issue?
Those kind of childish games?
Jeez, I never do that, why do you?
Shut up Clark, no one cares about your rantings, your son or your daughter.
Just go kill yourself and do the planet earth a favor.
You are problem on this blog, constantly attacking people.
How just posting about discussions and grow up?
jimmymac posted,
“I think Wilde might be Canadian and listed under the Canadian Royal Met. Assoc.”
http://www.cmos.ca/history.html
“The idea of separating from the Royal Meteorological Society and establishing an independent Society had been talked about during the 1950s. Both sides complained about the other and finally the question was discussed at the 1964 and 1965 Congresses. The formal decision was taken at the seventh and last Congress of the Canadian Branch in 1966 at the University of Sherbrooke in the presence and with the full concurrence of the president of the Royal Meteorological Society, who the Canadian members had invited to participate in this historic meeting. The Canadian Meteorological Society came into being on January 1, 1967 …”
HLP posted May 8, 2008 at 6:52 am
“Stephen Wilde has been a Fellow of the Royal Meteorological Society since 1968.”
“You are problem on this blog, constantly attacking people.”
Do you mean like accusing straight people of being gay because they support gay marriage?
Do you mean like threatening the offspring of posters that you disagree with?
Do you mean like accusing posters that you disagree with of being child molesters or of incest?
Do you mean like lying about who you are and what you have done?
Do you mean like stealing nics or nic switching to compliment yourself?
Do you mean like that, JM?
*Sigh* I still can’t find it but thanks for the tip JR.
Everyone have a nice weekend, get out and enjoy the nice weather, some River festival activities and of course blog responsibly!
Stop whining Clark, no one wants to hear that crap.
You got a problem, report it.
But stop your whining.
Or go kill yourself if you can’t cope with it.
jimmymac posted,
“I think Wilde might be Canadian… I doubt he’s listed on the British list.”
http://www.rmets.org/membership/index.php
“Joining the Society
…
The Society is made up of weather enthusiasts, practitioners, students and scientists from across the world.”
WSClark,
You left out jimmymac’s adding a fictional, false paragraph to a copy/paste. And lying about what others on the blog have posted.
“But stop your whining.”
Do you mean like whining that the liberals attack you, they aren’t nice to you and that they call you on your lies and erratic behavior?
Do ya’ mean like that, JM?
Wichi we were at the downtown library at noon and the food aroma was overwhelming. They were having a military program with speakers on the front steps and played the ‘Star Spangled Banner’ on the chimes. It was beautiful. I felt downright patriotic.
Okay, back to ‘puter world - bigger fish to fry.
Just out of curiosity, McCluer, why are you answering questions addressed to JM?
Did you chastise any and every poster that said you were JM? Didn’t you whine like a big fat baby every time someone even suggested that you were JM? Didn’t you deny being JM for eighteen months?
So why are you answering questions FOR JM?
Could it be that you are ACTUALLY JM?
Wow!!!!!
The Royal Meteorological Society
‘About Climate Change’
http://www.rmets.org/weather/climate/index.php
cosmos - sort of like the ‘Chemical Society (London)’ which was open to members from anywhere. I published in one of their Journals even though I am not British. They have standards but they do not include nationality.
Regular
Posted May 9, 2008 at 4:08 pm | Permalink
Shut up Clark, no one cares about your rantings, your son or your daughter.
Just go kill yourself and do the planet earth a favor.
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Regular, I mostly disagree with WSCLARK_ sometimes vehemwntly so, and have been attacked by many, but that is pretty vile. Why don;t you take a time out and not post on the blog for awhile, it seems to have not been kind to you.
jimmymac posted,
“I think Dr. Wilde is Canadian…”
Wilde does not seem to be a “Dr.”.
Stephen Wilde:
“I’ve been a Fellow of the Royal Meteorological Society since 1968. Admittedly that was before a science qualification was required but I’ve been a weather and climate geek for over 50 years.”
“What happened to the ‘both sides’ issue that you were ragging Mr. Davis about?”
Grm, ragging on me? Impossible, I say. Will have to go check out that thread.
“Oh, and McCluer threatened to beat up my son - we’ll be selling tickets - my son is 6?3? and 275# of solid muscle - he would flat out wipe the floor with McCluer.”
It is hard to even imagine a more ridiculous contest. I think they call those types of threats as being the result of “keyboard courage”. It it just silliness.
It’s a wunnerful day in the neighborhood, again!
I might as well jump in.
OK, Chas has lied how many times now?
1. Accidentally bolded the McCleur name in an entire obituary that was supposedly posted to show how wunnerful it is when killed kids donate organs.
2. Lied about turning Nathan in.
3. Lied about no longer reading “Max’s” posts.
4. Lied about no longer responding to “Max’s” posts.
That’s a least four times.
Trivial pursuit! Gotta love it.
“SAVE FERRIS!”
Oh, I meant:
“SAVE NATHAN!”
(We truly need to support his legal defense fund.)
Max prognosticates>>>
“1. Accidentally bolded the McCleur name in an entire obituary that was supposedly posted to show how wunnerful it is when killed kids donate organs.”
Max makes up shit as he/she goes… That obit never said one word about a kid being killed… only that the kid was dead…
The obit never did say how the young man died.
This response is not directd to Max the Flaming Liar, and mentally obsessed poster.
“I think they call those types of threats as being the result of “keyboard courage”.”
JM has a lot of “keyboard courage” - he has none of the real courage.
He challenged me to fight - I called his bluff - he went to Denny’s and had a steak. I waited for him at the designated meeting place - he never showed.
What a loser he is.
Nothing to see here that’s on an adult level.
Max the Flaming LIAR posts:
“2. Lied about turning Nathan in.”
I never claimed that Nathan had been turned in for anything. That makes Max a LIAR… And a flaming LIAR, since he/she already knows what was posted concerning Nathan. AND Max also knows that it was said upthread to just DROP IT!!
This response is not directd to Max the Flaming Liar, and mentally obsessed poster.
Chas
Posted May 9, 2008 at 5:06 pm | Permalink
Max prognosticates>>>
This response is not directd to Max the Flaming Liar, and mentally obsessed poster.
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Another LIE!
That’s FIVE!
“Nothing to see here that’s on an adult level.”
Is this your new nic, JM, TR_AILER?
Damn, come up with something better than that.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh.
Chas, Chas, Chas.
You have been busted so many times it’s ridiculous. I personally say the 1st item Max lists; your” explanation” was beyond lame.
I also personally read the threat to turn Nathan in to the Chaplains; whether to the Chief or th Corps makes no difference.
There’s more, but readers here know I needn’t go on.
You simply have no credibility, Chas. If you wrote the sun rose in the east, I’d have to go out and check to be sure. You’ve been busted too many times.
But it is fun to twist the knife, and see how many times and ways Chas can deny the undeniable, and twist what we’ve all read clearly.
Nathan, Max, I’ve got the popcorn and a beer waiting on me for tonight’s Chas show. I know you won’t let me down.
“Later, you said that your son left the Navy in 1992 because Clinton (Governor of Arkansas) cut his wages.Then you said that your son left the Navy in 1994.”
Is this anything like Hillary Clinton’s LIE about coming under fire?
Chas
Posted May 9, 2008 at 5:09 pm | Permalink
Max the Flaming LIAR posts:
This response is not directd to Max the Flaming Liar, and mentally obsessed poster.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
SIX!
AmWay, you mean Bill’s lie about coming under fire?
You know Chas, if you’d just give up the “holier then thou” act and admit your mistakes and lies, life would be easier for you by admitting you’re human.
But it wouldn’t be nearly as much fun for the rest of us.
GMC — YOU ARE ALLEGEDLY A LAWYER.. A PROSECUTOR EVEN… PULL YOUR LEGAL HEAD OUT OF YOUR BUTT….
“Is this anything like Hillary Clinton’s LIE about coming under fire?”
Pretty much the same.
Who was it that said “once a liar, always a liar?”
GMC I never posted ANYthing on this Blog, or any other Blog about “turning Nathan in” to anybody.
Now as an alleged prosecutor, you know full well that your words must be chosen more carefully, or you can be accused of perjury… like max, when he keeps claiming and counting numbers of what MAX calls lies… I specifically stated upthread that the two posts I posted were NOT directed at MAX…
Now, Mr. Prosecutor, either MAX is lying, or he just cant read… your take Counselor??
EADS North America spent $850,000 to lobby in first quarter
Friday May 9, 6:24 pm ET
EADS North America spent $850,000 in 1Q to lobby on Air Force tanker, other defense contracts
WASHINGTON (AP) — EADS North America, part of European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co., spent $850,000 on its own behalf in the first quarter to lobby on Pentagon contracts, including a massive Air Force order for aerial refueling tankers, according to a disclosure report filed April 22.
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The North American arm of the European aerospace and defense contractor, which is the parent of Airbus, focused much of its lobbying on Congress and the Defense Department during the first three months of the year.
EADS and its U.S. partner, Northrop Grumman Corp., recently beat out Boeing Co. for a $35 billion contract to supply 179 air-to-air refueling tankers to the Air Force. The deal is the first of three Air Force awards worth as much $100 billion to replace the entire fleet of nearly 600 tankers over the next 30 years.
Boeing, which has been supplying refueling tankers to the Air Force for 50 years, has filed a formal protest of the decision with the Government Accountability Office. And Boeing supporters in Congress have hauled Air Force officials up to Capitol Hill multiple times in recent weeks to explain their decision to award the contract to a team that includes a European company.
Jeez, when is the last time that anyone actually read something that Max posted?
Six months?
LOL Clark!!
I got to thinking today about the poor sad existence the person who spams dead threads must live. Posting all day the URLs of porn sites. Probably one of those work-at-home scams.
Hell, I thought. They’re even more pathetic than “Regular!”
(Unless, of course it is “Regular. LOL)
Interesting thought, Monkey
ONE Senator in a coma for 9 months… Liebermann voting with the Republicans on the War… How is it the Dems are accused of not doing anything in Congress??? Hmmm???
“exercised his right to armed self-defense in violation of a local gun law”
Lets see… you have a RIGHT to have a gun, even if a local gun law says you DONT have that right??
BTW, Cook County law enforcement sided with the victim of the burglary… Wilmette did NOT… Obam