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I thought it was very interesting that Jack Pelton, the CEO of Cessna Aircraft, has an editorial column in the paper today in which he endorses the Governor’s energy plan. If a few more CEOs come out of the closet against the coal plants – at least that is what I read in between the lines -
then maybe next legislative session the Republican non-leadership can get around to doing the work of Kansas, instead of playing political games with the Governor.

I see we are again graced with a “Hank Price” global climate change denial ditribe.

Anyone surprised?

sorry mr. EVANGELICAL…………….I dropped an “a”. Shame on me! Imagine, sitting here on an early Sunday morning grading LAB reports and multi-tasking on the web.

Shame on me for dropping that “a”.

Of course, a LAB report is irrelevant to you since you don’t believe in real science anyway …………denial of global climate change, your belief in the lie of creationism, etc.

Sorry price, the word “diAtribe” very accurate;y reflects the vast majority of your posts.

yep, mr. “christian”, it sure is.

How can you live with yourself price?

“MIT’s Richard Lindzen”

Another kept man…

Tsk tsk… Hank, from the reaction it’s obvious that you’re again insulting a key doctrine of liberal religion.

And on Sunday morning to boot.

HLP
Posted May 17, 2008 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

“I took a picture of a Volkswagen ADD and then made a positive from the negative so I could run off posters of the ADD for the printer-reader.

I ran off 100 posters of the ADD and started hanging them around the boat a few weeks before the good senator’s expected visit.

Want to see the ADD?”

Only a true nimrod misspells the same word four times.

HLP
Posted May 18, 2008 at 8:32 am | Permalink
Poor sentence structure, improper use of quotation marks, misspelled words, failure to capitalize proper nouns. . .

………since when does GRAMMAR matteron a blog? (I guess only to an anal retentive, evangelical)

All signs of an uneducated man.

………andTHIS statement coming from a price.

Never adds anything constructive to the conversation; seemingly obsessed with a poster that is obviously happy and self assured. . .

………anyone who doesn’t agree with a price is considered non-constructive to their narrow minds. As to the “obsessed” statement, I won’t even go there.

All signs of man that has reached middle aged and is very unhappy with his life.

………not quite middle aged yet and actually very happy with my life. I make a difference in our society and obviously you do not.

Claiming to grade lab reports this time of the school year? An obvious lie just to further his morning diatribe!

………at my school, we provide productive learning experience through the last day of the term. Sorry to burst your bubble mr. “christian”, I won’t be showing movies this last week of school.

We have an obvious unhappy, middle aged so-called-educator that resorts to lies and anonymous personal attacks to boost his self esteem.

……..Name ONE lie I have ever posted.

……..Oh, I have plenty of self esteem, unlike you. I don’t have to lean on some mythical sky god to survive in this world.

Nimrod.

……..talk about petty name-calling!

You are correct, the IB program at East produces some great graduates. Of course, many of the the comprehensive high schools do as well. Many of my former students have gone through the IB program and gone on to post graduate studies and productive careers.

One note, there are some who post here who will openly critcize the IB program.

Be forewarned!

OK I am not trying to pick a fight, I am serious and curious too. Of those that are supporting Hillary Clinton, other then your thinking she will be in the trenches giving Conservatives a bloody nose and making their political lives a living hell. Do you have any other reasons? And please try not limit it to using phrase and platitudes. If you like her health care plan, what is it about her health care plan? Her economic plan, her foreign policy, what is it beyond the meaning less platitudes?

“I am a Clinotn supporter, but it is over.”

Oh no it’s not.

And it is my personal belief that even if Obama was electable, he might be worse than McCain.

There is nothing so dangerous as a cornered, wounded animal. That is what the GOP is right now. Reaching out to work with them can only cause the worst of them to come out.

I’m sorry you see it this way JR.

How exactly do you see Hillary earning the nomination of our party? I agree that she is the better candidate to take on McCain, but it is unlikely that she will get the opportunity.

I hope you know that an inter-party civil war is just what the republics want. Now is the time to unite.

The Deniers use the very nature of the scientific process against science. Either they do not understand how the process works, or they deliberately misconstrue it.

” And almost all scientists in the latest debate, including Keenlyside, agree that any temporary cooling doesn’t alter that – blips due to natural effects are to be expected.”

In 1913, black came up at the Monte Carlo roulette table 26 times in a row. The casino made millions, as usual, because the gamblers doubled and tripled their bets because they thought there was a pattern. They did not understand the nature of random chance.

The Warming Deniers jump on any mere indication that appears to support their views. All the while, the scientific community continues to discover more and more evidence that warming is a real phenomenon.

We, as a nation, could use this to develop new technologies and new industries and new jobs and new exports. But the Denier’s diseased ideology prevents them from looking forward and compels them to attack the theory and to cheer for dirty coal and petroleum trying to make a supposed political point.

One wit here referred to Al Gore’s private jet. Al Gore does not own a private jet. But anything goes for these guys.

Truth or lie; facts or distortions … all the same for these guys, apparently.

Namaste!

J what the Cons hate is being countered with logic and reason, they just do not know how to act if it is not about mudslinging and name calling. Why was Obama so sure when he said to a debate of foreign policy, “bring it on!”. Its because the current foreign policy that Mc Cain wants to continue is not better then a 12 y.o. school yard bully could have came up with!

In a sense the Cons love Hillary, they know that she would be playing on their level.
Jay I do not need to remind you what is at stake, he is somewhere in your house right now!

BlueJay – will Clinton reach the benchmark set by McAuliffe – a plurality of the total popular vote?

BlueJay – we obviously cannot count ‘remourse’ – in any direction. My concern is that if Obama wins a plurality of the popular vote but Clinton wins the nomination we will see 1968 all over again. I remember that all too well. So, my question to you is simple: If Clinton loses at the ballot box – using her own benchmarks – do you exit gracefully?

As I have noted before – there are things I like about BOTH of them. However I am very hard pressed to find ANYTHING I like about McBush any more.

As I said I was not wanting to start a fight, I was hoping that someone could point to a reason to vote for Hillary that I just do not see. If Hillary did win I do not see anything change from the way it was yesterday, if that is good or bad depends on where you stand.

Lindainks55 and other IB program supporters: The Wichita East High School IB program and, indeed, other advanced educational programs in the USD 259 school system provides a way for serious students to advance in their chosen fields along with other like-minded students who have dedicated themselves to a preparatory course for serious higher education. Obviously when these students move on to the college level they will be in competition with students from across the nation who have prepared themselves for serious studies at universities.

Frankly, students with less rigorous preparation at the high school level are going to be hard pressed to compete later in either college or military leadership positions.

So, here, let’s congratulate our East IB students as they approach another goal in their education.

I have been a Hillary supporter all along as well.

It does not look like she will be the nominee. I will support Obama 100 % if he is the nominee.

The rhetoric between the two has calmed down considerably as they begin to focus on the real battle of this election cycle.

I would support Hillary if she is selected for the # 2 spot and think the two would be a formidable force for Democrats.

I also think that Govs Sebelius or Richardson would be good choices as well.

“Apophis” asks –

“How exactly is Obama “unelectable”?”

Good question, which “BlueJay” never seems to support with, y’know, evidence?

I mean, if Barack Obama is such as inferior candidate, how is it he’s leading Senator Clinton?

I admire Senator Clinton a lot. She’s the fighter “BlueJay” wants and gets down and dirty with the worst of ‘em. But IT’S NOT WORKING!!

Moderate Republic Party voters (and “BlueJay” seems convinced those people don’t exist) aren’t strong for McSame, but would likely turn out in droves simply for the chance to vote against a Clinton again. She’s a wingnut lightning rod. She has a safe Senate seat, would be a superb Majority Leader with a Democratic president in the Oval Office….

“BlueJay” tries to spin straw into gold with thinly-veiled “Manchurian Candidate” scenarios about Obama which defy logic.

To his credit, “BlueJay” has not played the race card, but that’s beginning to appear like a code that really means, “America will not vote for a black man.” And it stinks.

The people (West Virginia, anyone?) who say they’d never vote for a black man are the same people who’d never vote for a woman or a Clinton. Or a Democrat, for that matter.

“Apophis” –

We should probably give McBush the Queen of Diamonds test. If he says, “Barack Obama is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life,” we’re in trouble.

I “stood for” Senator Clinton last February. Since that snowy day I have changed my support to Senator Obama, because I know more about him and (sadly) I’ve learned more about her too.

I am not in support of Florida and Michigan delegates being seated. If a compromise acceptable to both candidates is worked out, I too will accept it. I think any after-the-fact concession to the stated rules and consequences for breaking those rules puts the party in the position of having more states break / bend the rules. Why not? Why not make sure whatever your state does accomplishes your desired outcome? Florida’s Republican-dominated legislature wanted to cause havoc. If they get their desired outcome and there are true consequences will voters will allow that to happen again? Just maybe it will have a further affect of UNelecting some of those Republican legislators!

If Senator Clinton becomes the Democratic nominee in a fair way that reflects the will of the voters I will vote for her. If the Super Delegates choose her over the candidate with the most popular votes I will need to do some very serious thinking about what I will do. I know I will be sad, disillusioned and probably angry. I will see it as another part of business as usual that is corrupt and needs to be changed!

I also think I can overcome my personal feelings for the good of America! ‘Cause that’s what I see this election being — a choice between business as usual or a chance for improvement.

I don’t think stickin’ it to the Republicans makes anything better for Americans. It’s the same as I feel about torture — other countries torture doesn’t make it right, doesn’t make it something America should copy. America is bigger than other countries and shouldn’t stoop that low! Democrats are bigger than Republicans and shouldn’t stoop to the level we’ve see for the last almost eight years! Business as usual will get Democrats UNelected as quickly as it will Republicans. Allow history to show what bushco did and don’t dignify it as something worth emulating. Business as usual, especially what bushco has done to our country, MUST END!

BlueJay posted May 18, 2008 at 10:08 am

“And as mentioned, we cannot know the number of votes already cast that may carry “buyer’s remorse”.”

‘Californians Would Switch Clinton Vote For Obama’
http://cbs5.com/politics/poll.clinton.obama.2.720136.html

Yes, Obama clearly has a solid record of ???, and consistently votes ‘not present’ on sensitive issues that may affect his political career.

Other than pandering to those who “were ‘agin’ him before they were ‘fer’ him, Obama has minimized his deception through his stealthy “change” message, by disguising any clear message through a barrage of muddled backpeddling.

The ‘chameleon’ candidate refractory attitude and sensitivity towards anything that might ruin his pristine record of ???, has proven to be Obama’s greatest asset.

That is, the art of tefloning the public’s view of a candidate is more important than making a stance on issues.

Ok now that I have brought up the subject and to be fair to the Conservatives/ Republicans. Why would you vote for John Mc Cain other then he is the Republican in the race and the heir apparent to the GOP? Or why will you not vote for him, many of us do have our own candidate that if it was solely up to us we would have in place of Mc Cain. Mine is Ron Paul and because of Mc Cain stance of basically continuing Bush’s Iraq policy and economic policy I can not vote for him. Which if Hillary would become the Democratic candidate I would be hard pressed in November. I at first thought of just a write in protest but this is too important to me to simply throw my vote away. Having been raised to believe if one does not vote then they have no right to complain. LOL I could always tell when Dad voted or not in the Presidential race, either four years of content complaining or four years of silence on the matter.

I’ll take my chances. I know what the options are. And, I think more people are paying closer attention. I give credit for that to bushco. The few areas I can offer praise — made his father’s presidency look much better, taught us new ways to accomplish corruption and made us more aware of how watchful we should be. Oh, and, united many people. United those many against anything that smacks of continuing his failed policies.

* * * * FLASH TRAFFIC: WASHINGTON UPDATE * * * *

ALL EYES ON THE EPICENTER

Bush, Obama, and Dobson are riveted on Israel and Iran. They’re not alone.

By Joel C. Rosenberg

(Washington, D.C., May 15, 2008) — The eyes of the world are riveted today on Israel, the epicenter of the momentous events that are shaking our world and shaping our future.

President Bush delivered an important and controversial address to the Israeli parliament this morning. A few excerpts worth noting: “Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along,” the President noted. “We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: ‘Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.’ We have an obligation to call this what it is – the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history. Some people suggest that if the United States would just break ties with Israel, all our problems in the Middle East would go away. This is a tired argument that buys into the propaganda of our enemies, and America rejects it utterly. Israel’s population may be just over 7 million. But when you confront terror and evil, you are 307 million strong, because America stands with you. America stands with you in breaking up terrorist networks and denying the extremists sanctuary. And America stands with you in firmly opposing Iran’s nuclear weapons ambitions. Permitting the world’s leading sponsor of terror to possess the world’s deadliest weapon would be an unforgivable betrayal of future generations. For the sake of peace, the world must not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon.”

Sen. Barack Obama — sounding quite defensive, in my judgment — quickly fired back, though the President did not mention the junior Illinois Senator by name, and may very well have been thinking more of former President Jimmy Carter.

“It is sad that President Bush would use a speech to the Knesset on the 6Oth anniversary of Israel’s independence to launch a false political attack,” Sen. Obama replied. “It is time to turn the page on eight years of policies that have strengthened Iran and failed to secure America or our ally Israel. Instead of tough talk and no action, we need to do what Kennedy, Nixon and Reagan did and use all elements of American power — including tough, principled, and direct diplomacy – to pressure countries like Iran and Syria. George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the President’s extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel.”

Meanwhile, Dr. James Dobson — the most-listened-to evangelical Christian on radio anywhere on the planet, with more than 9 million listeners a week in North America alone — begins the first of two programs on God, evangelicals and Israel. Today, he, author Tom Doyle and I explore the Biblical theology of the miraculous and prophetic rebirth of the modern State of Israel 60 years ago this week, God’s everlasting and unconditional love and plan for the Jewish people and all the people of the epicenter, and the prophecies concerning Israel’s future. Tomorrow, we will focus on the work of The Joshua Fund, Tom’s organization, and some of the ways that evangelical Christians can pray for the people of the epicenter and bless Israel and her neighbors in the name of Jesus. Please tune in on your local Christian radio station, or go to our weblog for a link to listen on-line.

At the same time, hundreds of churches, conferences and radio stations around the country are also focusing on Israel over the next few weeks.

This weekend, for example, more than 500 radio stations will be airing the “Epicenter Radio Special,” a two-hour broadcast of the major speeches and key moments from the Epicenter Conference we held in Jerusalem last month. Please check local listings, or listen on-line at http://www.epicenter08.com.

On Saturday, May 17, Tim LaHaye and I will address the Southern California Strategic Issues Conference in Los Angeles. My subject will be, “All Eyes on the Epicenter: Russia, Iran and The Future of Israel.”

On Sunday, May 18, I will will speak on God’s plan and purpose for the nation of Israel at Calvary Chapel of Chino Valley, California.

On Saturday, May 24, I will have the privilege of serving as the closing night speaker at the “Past, Present & Future Conference” at the Tucson Convention Center in Arizona, before an expected audience of some 10,000 people. The event has been organized by pastors from all over the Tucson metro area. Randy Travis is the headlining musical act. Pastors Skip Heitzig and Robert Furrow will speak the first two nights. I will talk about Bible prophecy, Israel, and how we can know the God who knows the future.

For details on any of these events, please check on our weblog. Please keep my family, my team, and me in your prayers, if you would, as we have these remarkable opportunities to help millions of people to better understand God’s heart for the Israel and her neighbors at this critical moment in world history. Thanks so much.

http://www.ucc.org/sacred-conversation/

http://www.uua.org/news/newssubmissions/110016.shtml

http://www.pcusa.org

http://www.elca.org/Our-Faith-In-Action.aspx

I just tried to post, and it says, “Your comment is awaiting moderation”.
Anybody else getting that? Can somebody tell me what that means?

Chas posted from the UCC website link above:

“Sacred Conversations – Let’s talk about race”

On Sunday, May 18, many pastors across the UCC will be preaching on race in hopes of beginning a sacred conversation, a dialogue that is needed in our pews, our homes and the hallways of power across our country. After May 18, congregations are encouraged to develop a months-long process in order to set aside the necessary time and attention needed to structure a sacred conversation about race.

The UCC is holding this national dialogue in order to foster a spirit of healing and unity in our churches and communities. While much has been said during the past few weeks about the Rev. Jeremiah A Wright Jr., this dialogue among our members is intended to be a larger conversation, one not focused directly or exclusively on the recent controversy, but one certainly influenced by it. Find a UCC church near you.

Sacred conversations are never easy, especially when honest talk confronts our nation’s painful past and speaks directly to the injustices of the present day. Yet sacred conversations can, and often do, honor the value of diverse life experiences, requiring an openness to hear each others’ viewpoints. Growth often happens when honest conversations are communicated in a respectful environment.

In the coming days and weeks, this webpage will be a repository for resources to assist with preaching preparation and worship planning for May 18. In addition, you will soon find materials to assist your congregation with how to plan church-wide and community-wide dialogues that will enable “sacred conversations” to take place.

While May 18 is an opportunity for UCC pastors to preach collectively on a common theme, it’s impossible for a sacred conversation on race to be a single-day event. Instead, pastors and lay leaders are encouraged to begin thinking how the coming months can be used to appropriately plan and organize your congregation’s role in facilitating a sacred conversation on race.”

Where is God not mentioned in this weblink?

Is He not part of the healing process?

We are all descendents of the one man Adam, if you believe in God’s word, so we are one race, the human race.

Why make the distinctions about race all the time?

The second Adam, Christ, is the only way to resolve our differences, and through the power of His Resurrection.

StevenEDavis

Posted May 17, 2008 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

“I apologize. And I assume you are willing to apologize for the many asinine statements you’ve made in the past. Now can you answer the question, or do you have more red herrings you’d like to throw out?”

http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/open-thread-517/#comment-351054

Steven,

Thank you for the apology, I think.

I have apologized numerous times for when I have made a mistake or crossed the line on saying something.

So if there is something else in particular you were looking for an apology from me on, please let me know.

I don’t see this as a red herring either. You don’t simply get to leave the blog in what appears to be a temper tantrum, calling me names and saying things about my father and I, and then come back a couple of days later and act like all is well.

So, please forgive me for expecting an apology.

Yes, I do accept the historical premise of (heterosexual) serial monogamy.

Criminal abortionist quack Harvey Karman, 84, who served 2 1/2 years in prison for illegal abortions, died May 6 in Californicatia. In the early 1970s he invented a soft, flexible tube, or cannula, that was widely adopted in the United States and developing countries for committing first-trimester abortions. Sometimes, babies live long enough to die in the cannula, or in the vacuum bottle into which they are brutally dislodged. Karman also invented a disastrous second-trimester abortion device called the super coil, which was inserted into the uterus and expanded when exposed to moisture, causing a miscarriage. It caused serious complications, including hemorrhaging and infection, when it was used on about a dozen women in Philadelphia on Mother’s Day in 1972. Karman’s ultimate goal was for mothers to safely commit self-abortions, and he invented a cheap do-it-yourself method called the lunch-hour abortion, using a manually-operated vacuum syringe and thin, flexible plastic tube to commit early abortions.
Mr. Karman is survived by 3 children and 6 grandchildren. We might wonder whether he hated them as much as he hated the rest of the world’s children.
—

YouTube chuckle for Kansans – Nazier than you think:
youtube.com/watch?v=gAcDBb6kJt0

Lindainks55: My apologies. I knew you looked familiar but so many people at the IB recognition ceremony, it was difficult to recognize all. A few minutes later, I realized you were you! Should have remembered since you sat across from me at the recent WE blogger meetup.

Comparison of me to “Wink” Hartman was natural since we share the same nickname but we have no connection.

And best wishes to your son, an East High IB graduating senior. So many outstanding students in that group. That truly is an achievement.

MrC.

It means you tried to post using some forbidden word.

I wrote about “The Big B@ng” one time, and it wouldn’t let me post because of the word “b ang.”

See if you can figure out what word flagged the system, and re-post.

MrC,

You didn’t by any chance use the word T e X a S, did you?

Will Manly’s April 15 opinion letter to Barack Obama, Hays Daily News: Good!
“Dear Barack Obama:
I grew to like you over the last year.
I’ve always thought of you as dangerously naive at best. Eloquent, gifted, genuine, yes. But dangerously naive at best.
I couldn’t vote for you — but not because of your funny name or your lunatic pastor. I couldn’t vote for you because you say we should raise taxes (even on the rich, who I’m convinced already pay too much), and because you say we should abandon Iraq (which I’m convinced would be surrendering a war we must win), and because you don’t respect the Second Amendment (which I’m convinced should disqualify any politician from any office).
Still, I’ve liked your message of unity and your ability to inspire. And, since your rise I’ve hunted, quite frantically, for young conservative leaders with your talent. (To my relief, I found Bobby Jindal.)
And I’ve long said if you beat Hillary Clinton, you will have done your country a tremendous service. But anymore I’m having a harder and harder time rooting for you.

First came your wife’s comment about being proud of America for the first time — conveniently, right after you started winning primaries. Then came your own words about your grandmother, who is just a “typical white person” — a racist, or at least someone with racist tendencies. (I’m a “typical white person,” I suppose, and I’m no racist. In fact, little makes me angrier than when it’s insinuated I am.)
Sometimes people say things they don’t really mean. But this is a pattern.
Last week we heard your comments about small-town America. Someone at a San Francisco fundraiser asked you why it’s so hard for Democrats to win in rural areas. You said:
“You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them … So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them … ”
Is that a minority? HEY CLETUS, GET THE GUN! (If only we had a job to go to, some time in the last 25 years … )

Here’s a thought: Maybe gun rights voters know gun control laws kill people and steal freedom.
Here’s a thought: Maybe some of us have moral objections to an immigration system that forces rule-followers to wait decades for legal status, and rewards border-violators with amnesty.
Here’s a thought: Maybe some Americans cling to their church because their pastor is a nice person, because they find love there, because there they have something they can believe in.
Here’s a thought: Maybe, just maybe, us simpletons in small towns find it harder to be bigoted than all o’ y’all cityfolk. Maybe, in small towns, where everybody knows your name — and how hard you work, if you pay your taxes, how well you treat your neighbors, how often you volunteer in the community, and whether or not you’re a good parent — people see the content of your character, so they don’t give a hoot about the color of your skin. (But I grew up in a small town where about a third of the population is of a different race than me. What do I know?)
And here’s my favorite thought of all: Maybe small-town folks are — really — capable of thinking. All on our own.
You’re wrong about why small-town Americans don’t vote for Democrats.
We don’t vote for Democrats because we’re self-reliant so we don’t like the government trying to “solve” everything for us. And because you tell your rich friends in San Francisco that we’re dumb. And because, each election, whichever one of you is running for president traipses all over the country telling us you have all the answers, that you’re the one on our side, that you respect our way of life. But each time, a little bit here and there slips out — and by the end of the campaign, we can tell what you think about us. And we manage to learn who you really are.
And we see you’re just a horse’s a$$”

The Racist Democratic Party

Black Minister Seeks Racism Apology from Democratic Party
By Christopher Tidmore, Political Columnist
June 12, 2006
http://www.louisianaweekly.com/weekly/news/articlegate.pl?20060612e

“In addition to lynchings and terrorist attacks by the Democrat’s terrorist organizations (as revealed in the 1871 Senate hearings), Democrats legislated Black Codes, Jim Crow laws and a multitude of other repressive legislation at the federal and state levels (and repealed other key pieces of Civil Rights legislation) all in an effort to deny blacks their rights as citizens. The entire system of racism in America was meticulously thought-out and carried-out by a powerful political machine. And that political machine according to Historians, was the Democratic Party – the party of “White Supremacy.”

“Based on these findings, I sent the April 5, 2004 letter to the D[emocratic] N[ational] C[ommittee] requesting that they issue an apology to African Americans. In 2005, I sent a second letter to the DNC, again requesting an apology. When the DNC ignored these requests, I filed my first lawsuit on December 10, 2005.”

“Without an apology and repentance there is no way the Democratic Party can ever sincerely honor Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Ms Rosa Parks; two individuals who literally gave their lives to destroy the racist programs, policies and practices that were established by the Democratic Party. And without an apology and repentance there is no way the Democratic Party can ever respect African Americans. Their past programs and practices from slavery through Jim Crow which literally destroyed the lives of millions of blacks, was an act of mass murder. And to hire an attorney to defend that racist past is not only an official endorsement of murder – it is an insult to the entire black race and to those whites who gave their lives to eliminate racial injustice.”

LOUISVILLE, Ky. – A small but startling sign welcomed the gun lovers who arrived at the National Rifle Association’s annual gathering Friday.

“Firearms WILL NOT be allowed in Hall A during the Celebration of American Values Leadership Forum.”

But . . . but . . . but what if a bunch of Al Qaeda types burst into the NRA gathering?

How would all the weak-kneed gun-huggers have defended themselves?

““How exactly is Obama “unelectable”?”

Good question, which “BlueJay” never seems to support with, y’know, evidence?

And you mentioned racism.

Well we do have to be honest. There IS that element.

But it goes both ways. There are white people who will not vote for Obama. There are black people who will not vote for anyone but Obama.

I don’t care for either dynamic. But they are there. Do racist whites outnumber racist blacks? I don’t know.

And I DID say why I think he is unelectable. Too much has come to light too late. That fuels suspicions that there is even more to know and not like.

I’ve expressed all along the way the various reasons I can’t vote for Obama. Not the least of these is?

He hasn’t had to work hard enough for it.

I mean people FAINT at his rallies for crying out loud. Any person serious about politics should be troubled by that and the total media pass Obama has been given. It is a bad thing for us to start electing leaders this way.

And of course, there is my well known hatred and mistrust of the cons.

Folks? The power brokers. The movers and shakers behind the Republican machine? They are more dangerous and harmful than any terrorist could dream of being. Oh they wave the flag a lot. Bud deep inside? They are about nothing but them and how much more money and power they have than everybody else.

These folks are what gave us Ronald Reagan.

Ronald Reagan WAS once a good man. But his wife decided she needed nice things. Ronnie needed to move with the money crowd. SO hapless Ronald was reprogrammed. HE had made it. (They had made him) So by gosh it must be possible for everyone to make it if only bad ol’ government would get outta the way!

Now comes Barack Obama. Used to winning easy. Big crowds screaming his name. Little to no accountability. Totally disconnected with the common man.

I’m sorry. But to me? I think “yes we can” is gonna morph into “yes you can”. And with all the attendant blame placed firmly on those who can’t.

PS?
I mean, if Barack Obama is such as inferior candidate, how is it he’s leading Senator Clinton?

But AGAIN. WHERE is he leading her? Kansas? Idaho? Come on.

“I mean people FAINT at his rallies for crying out loud”

I’ve also seen them faint at Hill’s rallys and also when Bill is on stage…..maybe it has something to do with the crowds and the temperature of the room?

Anyway…Obama has the right attitude to be a good leader…and as far as how hard he has worked, he wasn’t born into money (unlike Hill) and he’s worked for everything he achieved. I think that is a another good quality…the fact that no one bought his way through the world.
Hillary and McCain were born with wealth and/or power, they’ve never lived in the same world as us..of course they pretend that they have because it’s what they think Americans want to hear. Of the three of them, only Obama is self made.

McCain’s Military Record in the Senate
by TexasVeteran

I cringe at the thought of Senator John McCain as Commander-in-Chief. Too many people are afraid to question Senator McCain’s record and those that do are often lambasted as being unAmerican or insane. The media won’t cover his senatorial record, but they certainly oblige to perpetuate his POW-hero status. I am a combat veteran and I deserve my 1st Amendment rights as much as the next person. I have no desire to slander Senator McCain’s military service, but I am definitely critical of his senatorial record.

In over 3 decades of service, Senator McCain has had plenty of opportunity to draft legislation or to assist our military, but he has been found absent.

- Military retiree benefits have been slashed to all-time lows while Senator McCain remained silent.

- The Veterans Administration hospitals have been cess pools for years and Senator McCain has remained silent.

- Soldiers still qualify for “food stamps” because their pay isn’t adequate to support a family. It is revolting to me to send BILLION$ of dollars overseas and domestically on illegal aliens, but can’t pay soldiers enough to keep them off government assistance programs.

Early on, family members of Vietnam POW/MIAs thought Senator McCain would be an advocate to their cause. They were largely left in tears as Senators McCain and Kerry had government information destroyed or restricted making it more difficult on families to get POW/MIA information. While the disposition of American MIA/POWs was still unknown, Senator McCain fought for the normalization of relations with Vietnam. He even fought for up to $50,000 reparations for select Vietnamese soldiers, but failed to seek any form of compensation for our own American troops or their surviving families.

On issue after issue, Senator John McCain has been found lacking when the military needed him most. The military was decimated in the 1990s, with training funds drying up, base closers and a reduction-in-force. Where was Senator McCain? Many senators looked to Senators McCain and Kerry for leadership on veteran’s issues and found none. Many of the conservatives that faulted Senator Kerry’s military track record won’t even look at Senator McCain’s.

McCain is known as a POW, for Campaign Finance Reform, the Kennedy Immigration Bill, the Keating 5 fiasco, having a cute, rich wife, but he definitely isn’t known for his leadership on veteran’s issues. Interestingly enough, Senator McCain fought for the surge to send more troops to fight and die in Iraq, but where has he been for over 30 years when the military needed him?

It probably isn’t fair for veterans and military families to expect so much from one senator, but it isn’t right for McCain to get a heroes welcome based on his 3 decades of legislative record either.

It’s appropriate to ask whether McCain’s shoot-down was caused by bad luck or simple incompetence on his part. Of course, there is no way to answer definitively. But we can form an assessment based on the rest of McCain’s military record. At the Naval Academy, McCain graduated almost bottom of his class. He was 790th out of 795. McCain lost many aircraft over the course of his military career – five in total. Most pilots who lost aircraft at the rate McCain did would have been kicked out of the service. But McCain had protection from up on high. His father was an admiral. He was an untouchable. So McCain blundered his way through his military career until he was finally shot down.

http://www.forandagainst.com/articles/McCain_s_Military_Record_Shows_He_Is_Unfit_To_Be_President

Kansas Native…can’t say I remember that…I was in Catholic high school (Madonna High) by the late 60s. The one thing I’ll never forget is the Baltimore Catechism that we had to memorize word for word in the 3rd and 4th grade.

“God is the Supreme Being who made all things”.

JR…………Please, let time be our ally. Let us all move past the primary process.

The really enemy is bush and his minions,

McCain is one of his minions…….we must stop him!

JR…I work 3 jobs now and I don’t feel victimized at all…I’m glad I have the opportuntiy to make a decent living…even if I have to work my butt off for it. THAT’S called being an American.

“People who are self made can be blind to those who are not so lucky. They can even, as Reagan did, come to blame the victim.”

I said it.

Along comes Mary to prove it.

Wow Mary_Caruso,
I tip my hat and bow. You are the American ideal with the attitude you show above. YOU GO!
I hope you do well with your work and rental properties. But get that husband of yours to help, ha.
I’m afraid you are whispering into a wind though talking to JR about that type of work ethic.

The opportunities are still there for those who want them, JR. If you can’t find them, don’t depend on the government to help you..it ain’t gonna happen. It may not be the kind of work you want to do…but there are careers that you can get scholarships and grants for…nursing and medicine are just two. To hear everyone bitch about how there are no jobs or opportunities…how can we possibly have a critical nursing shortage in this country?

Box, it’s a privately owned company but it’s a franchise. The owner and my boss is Jay Staley..the best boss in the world.

Junior doesn’t want opportunity, he wants a hand out.

It’s a shame, because he will be waiting for his whole life for it and it will never come.

Like Mary said, go into nursing, there are even scholarships available. Of course Junior may not have the ‘kidneys’ for it or at least the stick-to-it-ness to do it.

Prove me wrong Junior.

You can get into a community college (I graduated from Butler)and take advantage of grants and scholarships…anyone over 25 yrs old can qualify for a student loan that doesn’t have to be paid back until you graduate and have a job…when I applied at Wesley, they had about 200 nursing positions open. I’m 55 and got a job without any problem. You can become a nurse in two years with an associate degree…you have to get the prerequisites out of the way first.
It’s no more expensive than buying a new car.

At least JR works, James… LOL

BlueJay/JR — Please check your email!! Thanks!

All I can say is PMom is that if you want to make it you have to work hard for it.
I’m not “looking down” on anyone…I just know that it isn’t going to happen unless one decides to make it happen…no one (especially the government) is gonna make it easy. I never expected it to be easy…in fact it was the hardest thing I’ve ever did..I had three kids and no money when I went back to school…and if I can do it, anyone can.

Yeah Apophis, I was punching the clock before you got out of diapers. Come back and talk to me when you know about real work.

hmm, I have all the pre-req’s for a Nurse, wonder if I should don the uniform of the healers. :)

I’m sorry James!

Are you in the military now?

Well good for you Apophis!

Besides working on my grandparents farm, I delivered the newspaper and “The Grit” at the age of 8.

Independent contractor as mowing lawns at age 12? Hells bells, we just called them lawn boys back then. I got paid 50 to 75 cents back in the day for mowing a lawn, and extra quarter if I trimmed it.

Let’s see, before the age of 18:
*Worked at an ice house making blocks of ice.
*Unloaded Boxcars from the USDA to stack in the *Warehouse for a commodities Warehouse
*Worked at a Gas Station pumping gas, changing and fixing tires, doing oil changes.
*Employed at a working Ranch as a ranch hand, fixing fences, moving irrigation pipes and guns, herding cattle from pasture to pasture
*Worked at a newspaper as the ‘gopher’ Swept up around the linotype, made iron alloy ‘pig’ ingots for use in the linotype, bound and packaged checks

After 18
*Worked a summer working for the Santa Fe Railroad as a Hostler Helper (refueled locomotives with diesel) Big time unions wages! 3.48/hour! :D They had a strike and being low on the seniority list, I was axed.

*Worked at Nickerson Farms 5 days a week as a Gas Station Attendant until midnight (4-12) (while going to college)

And so on and so forth, also worked for a Veterinarian helping him trim horse hooves and general mucking when he did surgery. Lots and lots of odd jobs during my stint in the military.
Lots of jobs after I left the military, including Safety, Call Center Consultant for a Computer Hardware Equipment, blah blah.

Also volunteered to janitor churches, genealogy librarian and more stuff I’ve forgotten about than I can remember.

Yeah, I got my social security card quite young as well. Don’t recall when, 12? Back then you didn’t get one when you were born, had to go to the Post Office and get one.

Been a NASA test subject in altitude, worked in Research several places and happy as I’ve had a full life.

Done so many things I can’t remember them all, but had fun doing it all (except being chased by cattle on the ranch) :)

The only lie being told is that the Crapn kept adding his own twist to the story. I wrote that some days after changing and fixing the flat for the guy who had forgotten his wallet – my Boss and owner of the gas station had gotten a phone call thanking him for the much needed assistance on that very cold and snowy day. It was from the Lieutenant Governor.

I didn’t know who the guy was and all I got was a belated thank you from my boss. It was no big deal.

However, the Crapn thinks that doing a kind deed from someone involves some sort of spectacular situation or circumstance.

Nothing of the sort, I took off the tire, took it back to the gas station, fixed and put it back on for the guy (his spare was junk.)

Not sure why you Libs like to think that was anything special, people do that all the time. I was just fortunate it was for someone who was semi-important. No big deal to me at the time, I didn’t even mention it to my parents, but my boss did and as I recall I got a bit embarrassed about it.

No Apophis, no matter how you spin it, the Crapn lied about what I did.

I know what I did on Christmas Day and night. That old Apco gas station had some good and bad memories for me. Lot of busted knuckles and back then, it was all full service.

You young’uns don’t know the true meaning of work, so you mock those who have actually done hard work.

That’s true Apophis, I don’t know what you’ve done in your life.

Tell us about your hard, physical labor other than mowing lawns as a boy.

Massive aircraft parts? Like what?

Reason why I’m interested as I used to inspect Aircraft Repair centers for safety. Ergonomics was my bug-a-boo and protecting workers from repetive trauma like back injury.

Well, inspecting bin parts can be challenging. The Air Force and I think Boeing calls them ‘Kit’ inspectors. Where a kit were the assembled parts for a particular Aircraft.

The process before that where parts, were cleaned, blasted, x-rayed, fluxed, painted, coated and repaired is where I inspected. Lot of repetive trauma seen in those types of jobs. Also, exposure to fumes of all kinds.

BTW, that job I had for the railroad had heavy lifting as well. Everything and I mean everything was heavy, dirty and oily. Brakeshoes for a rail car was my least favorite, i.e. re-stacking them and checking for rust/corrosion.

The electrical connections between diesel units were huge. They were in very large rubber conduits with a connecting ring. Of course, they had to be placed above the door to impose the maximum amount of stress on arms and shoulders.

Railroading work wasn’t a favorite of mine either, a dangerous place.

Never had a problem with the non-destructive inspector guys, they usually knew what they were doing.

The most problem I had were with what I called the wratchet and screwdriver people. People who disassembled smaller parts for cleaning or re-assembled them.

Those guys worked on a quota system and it was killing their shoulders, backs, wrist and elbows. Also saw a lot of nerve damage, carpal tunnel. Not too many Raynaud’s syndrome (from vibration) but some.

……so, do I have “manual labor” crdendentials now?

I give you credit for working in your past.

I’ll mute myself about the present for now.

Well, that’s a start!

As you know, I did some substitute teaching. However, a car accident re-injured me from my old wounds I got in the military and started some new problems. Been a lot more inoperable than operable since then.

If I was an aircraft part, I wouldn’t make it through the NDI, as there are too many cracks and tears.

The bottom line to them was the profit. I found that they expected the profit over the integrity of the inspection process.
==========================
Unfortunately, this hasn’t changed.

You would reasonably expect that the owner would require quality over quantity to ensure the bottom line, which is safety first, for the part to be going back on the aircraft.

Profit should never be placed over quality in NDI/NDT inspections.

I just heard that more than 50,000 people attended an Obama rally in Oregon.

10,000 were turned away.

That sort of turnout for a politician is….kinda creepy.

With my digestive system, I am likely more disabled than you James.

But it is almost impossible to get disability anymore thanks to the cons.

I paid into it for years and I can’t get any benefits. Though to be fair, I have not tried. They discourage even trying.

BlueJay,

If those numbers had been for Hillary Clinton, would you be saying the same?

American — YOUR Lie… >>>>

““Where is God not mentioned in this weblink?

Is He not part of the healing process?”

Why did you not post my entire response to what you posted?? Huh???

Yes Rox, I would.

If the FP inspection is done properly, approximately .0001 is eched off the base material to bring any defect to the surface. If this is done properly, I can find the indication of the defect. I was very good at Aluminum…..2024 (a real bitc*), 5051, 7075…..etc. Titanium alloys were the real trick…..they tend to crack shallow and wide, making the indication difficult to see if a standard Type II inspection is performed. Stainless alloys that would not readily magnetize were difficult too, but not as hard as the titanium. A good prep crew is VITAL!

JR

Did you mean “trichlorethylene”?

BlueJay,

Man, that doesn’t sound like a good experience at all!

Unfortunetly, the corporate mantra is to do more with with less and less.

Chas,

You owe an apology for being a alledged minister and using the language you do.

You owe an apology for for claiming to be a Christian, yet rejecting the diety of Christ as THE Lord and Savior for all.

Chas,

I feel I am wasting my effort, but here goes:

Where on your last post above mentions God and that He is a vital part of the healing process?

Please only use what you posted previously, to be fair.

On the lighter side of things.

Has anyone ever seen the movie “Princess Bride”?

I thing that is one funny and witty movie.

I especially enjoyed the swashbuckling parts of the movie.

Holy scrambled post! How did that happen?

Chas,

I officially give up on that topic. I guess you are not very opened minded.

Here is the link again >>>>

http://www.ucc.org/sacred-conversation/

BlueJay,

Fair enough.

Okay, guys, here’s your chance to redeem yourselves.

The following is a “test” I found on Yahoo! News about the 5 signs you have an ego problem. (Perfect for this group, eh?) If you’re brave enough, post your HONEST answer, not what you THINK you should do. Later, I’ll post the answers and “scores”.

1. A poor beggar on the street asks you for change as you leave the coffee shop.

a. You give her your spare change.

b. You scream at her, “Get a job!”

c. Because you are sending a text message as you leave the coffee shop, you accidentally step on the beggar.

2. You’re eating at a restaurant. A random person finds $20 on the ground and says to you, “I think you dropped this money.” But you know you did NOT in fact drop the money. What do you say?

a. “Yes that’s mine, give it to me!”

b. “Um, no it’s not mine, but I’ll take it.”

c. “No it’s not mine, but would you mind if I take it and make a donation?”

3. Your friend gets a flat tire in a roadside ditch. He leaves you a voicemail frantically asking for help. But you have an important meeting that is about to begin. What do you do?

a. Pretend like you couldn’t hear his voicemail clearly and go to your meeting.

b. Call back your friend and tell him to “get a job” so this stuff wouldn’t happen.

c. Prioritize friends and family over work and leave work to help your friend ASAP.

4. You are driving, and you run over a little bird. Your daughter is in the car and asks what just happened. What do you do?

a. You tell her the squishing sound was just a glitch in the CD.

b. You ignore your daughter hoping she won’t ask again.

c. You drive back to help the little bird and teach your daughter to protect sentient life.

5. You’re in the grocery market. You run into someone you haven’t seen in a while and you really hoped never to see again. What do you do?

a. Pretend like you have lost your mind and don’t recognize the person.

b. Take the s uck, open your heart, and be nice to the person.

c. Be really honest and say, “Did you really think we were friends?”

Nathan you’re a class A jackass, and I hope you and your prostelytizing gets you demoted. You are anti-american in every sense of the word.

QUIZ —

1. a

2. c

3. c (should be a choice D)

4. c (should be a choice D here too)

5. b

Lets see….

Does Chas swear and use vulgar language? Yes.

Does Chas claim to be a Christian in one sentence and deny the diety of Christ and his status as Savior in the next? Yes.

So where am I wrong here?

Chas,

So you believe that Christ is the only God and that only through faith in him can someone be saved?

American
Posted May 18, 2008 at 9:59 pm | Permalink
Chas,

I officially give up on that topic. I guess you are not very opened minded.
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Seems to me that YOU are the one being closed minded here… YOU are the one who will not post the ENTIRE web site, that DOES show all kinds of references to GOD!!

I do believe you owe the UCC (Not ME) an apology for lying about their web site!!

1. A poor beggar on the street asks you for change as you leave the coffee shop.

I would give it to him.

2. You’re eating at a restaurant. A random person finds $20 on the ground and says to you, “I think you dropped this money.” But you know you did NOT in fact drop the money. What do you say?

It is not my money.

3. Your friend gets a flat tire in a roadside ditch. He leaves you a voicemail frantically asking for help. But you have an important meeting that is about to begin. What do you do?

Go help the friend and let the people at the meeting know I’ll be late.

4. You are driving, and you run over a little bird. Your daughter is in the car and asks what just happened. What do you do?

We hit a bird. Sorry. Drive away.

5. You’re in the grocery market. You run into someone you haven’t seen in a while and you really hoped never to see again. What do you do?

Smile, say hello, but don’t extend the conversation much beyond being nice.

Good night all!

Have a good rest.

Pray for America, Americans!

We sure need His help.

Nathan, go suck an egg!! My not answering your stupid questions, is not proof of anything, except that I REFUSE to answer your stupid questions… It says NOTHING as to whether I am a Christian…

So, if that is your PROOF… you better find something better than that monotonous diatribe!! That dog dont hunt!!

BTW, that little bird that gets hit??? Might not mean anything to you… But it means a LOT to your little daughter…. Blowing her off like that when she is young, will drive her away from you when she gets older… Think about it…

I give her my spare change.

No I do not claim the 20$

I tell the boss I have something more important to do to help my friend.

And I have done it.

I feel terrible for the little bird. But birds have very fragile skeletal structure. The bird is dead.

As far as the bird goes… it is a bird for crying out loud.

If I had to stop and try to save the life of every bird I have hit in this world it would be absurd.

I will do far more for my daughters mental health by not over reacting to hitting a bird with my truck…

Nathan he’s answered your questions over and over and freaking over again. I was talking about how you preach while in uniform as far as being demoted. It isn’t your job to harass others for being a different religion.

You are so disrespectful, and you can’t understand why we don’t offer you any respect for your beliefs.

Your father won’t even talk about how whacked his religion is, because he doesn’t want to be attacked as you attack others over it.

So let me make it very clear, Chas believes in the same exact god as you do. Chas believes in the trinity (which I don’t), and he believes that they are the one true god. I say they because of the trinity thing that is just bizarre to me.

I believe in A GOD, not the godhead thing. I don’t believe Jesus is the son of God. So when he says “god bless me, whoever I deem my god to be”…that is not denying HIS god. Nor your god. He’s saying that since I believe in a god, he hopes that my god blesses me.

Its really not that hard. Apparently you can’t figure it out.

People like you should lose your freedom to have your religion every once in awhile just so you learn to appreciate other’s rights to their own beliefs.

MEK or Methyl Ethyl Ketone was the chemical I was thinking of that used to make me slightly nauseous. Just didn’t like the sweet smell. The paint hanger and the parts cleaning area wreaked of it.

Political Mama,

I am not in uniform here. There is nothing stopping me from sharing my beliefs while I am in uniform either.

Reguliar posted May 18, 2008 at 5:45 pm

“The people who filed a lawsuit against the Corps disagree with little jimmymac — there’s no mention of the Sierra Club.

From the National Sierra Club Press Releases:

“And they weren’t the only ones who had concerns: …
The case was soon settled, with the Corps of Engineers agreeing in 1997 to look at ways of minimizing the damage to the wetlands.”

http://www.sierraclub.org/pressroom/releases/pr2005-09-13a.asp

It appears that cosmos is a serial liar who does not believe press releases from the Sierra Club that the Sierra Club was involved in the lawsuit along with others.”
————

jimmymac’s “quote” from my post was re a later lawsuit,

http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/open-thread-517/#comment-351321

“The people who filed a lawsuit against the Corps disagree with little jimmymac — there’s no mention of the Sierra Club.

‘Judge tosses Katrina lawsuit against Engineer Corps’
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN30257740

The judge seemed to agree with the plaintiffs, but the Corps is protected by a 1928 law.

jimmymac, aka Regular, is a liar.”

————

Poor little jimmymac. He seems unable to read.

And he seems to believe that New Orleans is a wetlands area.

And he seems unable to understand the difference between:

1) The old 1996 lawsuit, Mississippi River Basin Alliance, et al. v. H. Martin Lancaster, involving a project 100 miles from NO, which had nothing to do with the failures in NO.

‘‘BLAMING ENVIRONMENTALISTS FOR KATRINA: WHAT YOU SHOULD KNOW!’
http://www.sierraclub.org/pressroom/releases/pr2005-09-13a.asp

and

2) The recent lawsuit which blamed the Corps (not the Sierra Club) for the failures in NO.

‘Judge tosses Katrina lawsuit against Engineer Corps’
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN30257740
‘In his ruling, Duval scolded the agency for “its failure to accomplish what was its task.”

“Millions of dollars were squandered in building a levee system … which was known to be inadequate by the Corps’ own calculations,” Duval wrote in his ruling, issued in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana. ”

——

But perhaps jimmymac is not a liar? Maybe he just cannot understand simple, obvious, basic facts?

Once again cosmos lies through his teeth. The Sierra Club was involved in the lawsuit and this is a quote directly from the Sierra Club Website that states so.

The people who filed a lawsuit against the Corps disagree with little jimmymac — there’s no mention of the Sierra Club.

From the National Sierra Club Press Releases:

“And they weren’t the only ones who had concerns: The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Environmental Protection Agency and the Louisiana Legislature all urged the Corps to look at how the proposed project would have impacted the area. It refused to do so. That led the Sierra Club, American Rivers, the National Wildlife Federation, Arkansas and Mississippi Wildlife Federations, and the Mississippi River Basin Alliance to take the Corps to Court. The case was soon settled, with the Corps of Engineers agreeing in 1997 to look at ways of minimizing the damage to the wetlands.”

http://www.sierraclub.org/pressroom/releases/pr2005-09-13a.asp

It appears that cosmos is a serial liar who does not believe press releases from the Sierra Club that the Sierra Club was involved in the lawsuit along with others.

I only referred to the 1997 lawsuit and cosmos is the one combining all the lawsuits into one. The point being is that Federal Funds are supplied Fiscaly (once a year.) If something happens like a lawsuit, those funds cannot be used due to a Judicial order.

The Army Corp of Engineer was forced to do studies and had to rob funds from other areas in order to comply with the Judges orders. Some of those funds came from the levy project area.

I have no idea why cosmos has such a ‘hard on’ for the Sierra Club. Maybe he’s a local president of them, I don’t know. But he’s definetely in butt lust with them.

bullsh#t

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwJQIdQ7CXU

12 It is not for me to judge those outside the church. You are to judge those who belong to the church. 13 God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church.

Chas,

Did you just call Political Mama wicked?

I think you did.

Here are the results of the test. Check out how you did.

If you chose the following you are a giver:

1. a

2. c

3. c

4. c

5. b

If you got one wrong:

“Until you transcend the ego, you do nothing but add to the insanity of the world.” -John Randolph Price

I chose A for #5 and have done it or something similar, like pretending I didn’t see someone. Then again, it depends on my mood.

Nathaniel,
There’s nothing wrong with being wicked. I freely admit to it. :)

Oh, and P_Mom, the idea of the Holy Trinity was around a long time before Christianity. Maiden, Mother, Crone. Also known as the Triple Goddesses.

from Wikipedia:
In ancient Indo-European mythologies, various goddesses or demi-goddesses appear as a triad, either as three separate beings who always appear as a group (the Greek Moirae, Charites, Erinnyes and the Norse Norns) or as a single deity who is commonly depicted in three aspects (Greek Hecate and the cult image of Latin Diana Nemorensis, of whom Hecate is one part[1]). Often it is ambiguous whether a single being or three are represented, as is the case with the Irish Brighid and her two sisters, also called Brighid, or the Morrígan who is known by at least three or four different names. In most ancient portrayals of triple goddesses, the separate deities perform different yet related functions, and there is no obvious difference in their ages. In Wicca and related Neo-pagan religions, the Triple Goddess is, along with the Horned God, held in particular reverence, and her three aspects are most often portrayed as being of different ages: Maiden, Mother and Crone.

Predestined,

Being wicked means you are a sinner. If you value your relationship with God, you don’t want to be a sinner.

There is nothing good about being wicked at all.

Chas,

Just face it.

If you are a minister, you are not a very good one. You swear, you lose your temper very easily, and you refuse to answer any questions regarding your faith.

You claim to be a Christian, yet reject the most basic foundation of being one.

You are a fraud.

Chas,

Political Mama just said she rejects the diety of Christ.

She doesn’t believe in God at all. She believes in some idol, but not the God I believe in.

Girl Escorts on Petraeus says the glass is half full

Geneva Escort Agency on Petraeus says the glass is half full
*****

Is there a reason that certain threads get so much of the porn track back spam? That Petraeus thread gets a lot of it.

Strange, Steven… very strange!! :-)

“Is there a reason that certain threads get so much of the porn track back spam? That Petraeus thread gets a lot of it.”

Must be angling for the “soldiers home between deployments” market.

jimmymac,

So you have no credible source for your fictional, bogus last paragraph in your post here?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/open_thread_25-4/#comment-239232

Then you are a liar.

cosmos_originally posted May 19, 2008 at 1:07 am

“Please try to prove that you are not a liar, by posting a credible link for your “1997[sic] lawsuit,
the Army Corp[sic] of Engineer[sic]” copy/paste[sic] post here.

http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/open_thread_25-4/#comment-239232

jimmymac could not prove his false claims attacking the Sierra Club, so he added a fictional, bogus last paragraph to that post.”

jimmymac,

Okay, so you cannot read.

I said that the Sierra Club was not named in the recent Katrina lawsuit.
———-
blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/open-thread-517/#comment-351321

“The people who filed a lawsuit against the Corps disagree with little jimmymac — there’s no mention of the Sierra Club.

‘Judge tosses Katrina lawsuit against Engineer Corps’
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN30257740
———-

I never claimed that the Sierra Club was not named in the 1996 lawsuit.

I posted the Sierra Club Press Release link jimmymac copy/pasted from at 12:44 pm, on May 26 last year,

http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/dont_count_on_f/#comment-239957
———-

jimmymac has no credible source for his fictional, bogus last paragraph in his post here.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/open_thread_25-4/#comment-239232

jimmymac is a liar.

jimmymac has no credible source for his fictional, bogus last paragraph in his post here.
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/05/open_thread_25-4/#comment-239232

jimmymac is a liar.

jimmymac is a troll who makes false personal attacks on posters, and falsely calls them liars when he cannot support his lies.

Thank you jimmymac, for again proving my earlier points:

“jimmymac is a troll who makes false personal attacks on posters, and falsely calls them liars when he cannot support his lies.”

“cosmos can’t help but lie now, he’s been caught over and over.”

Viet Nam?

Marital status?

Fatherhood?

JM?

Mississippi?

Yep, this posters has been caught over and over again……………………

Poor little jimmymac is just too dumb to understand that my “lawsuit” comment was re the “Katrina lawsuit against Engineer Corps” just below that comment.

My post:
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http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/open-thread-517/#comment-351321

“The people who filed a lawsuit against the Corps disagree with little jimmymac — there’s no mention of the Sierra Club.

‘Judge tosses Katrina lawsuit against Engineer Corps’
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN30257740 ”
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jimmymac also seems to believe that the Sierra Club is a “people”, and that the Sierra Club filed a “class action lawsuit”.

From Reuters link,
“A federal judge in New Orleans on Wednesday dismissed a class action lawsuit against the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers over the failure of the city’s levee system during Hurricane Katrina’s floods in 2005.
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Hundreds of thousands of claims have been filed against the Corps over the flooding, Bruno said. He set the total value of the claims between $30 billion and $50 billion.”

WSClark,

jimmymac cannot defend his lies.

All he can do is post more dumb lies, and stupid personal attacks.