Thursday is the deadline set by a federal judge in Alaska for the Fish and Wildlife Service to decide whether the polar bear is a threatened or endangered species. All the evidence shows the polar bear doesn’t need his help. Environmental groups petitioned for such a listing and sued when a decision was not forthcoming by the deadline. They claimed that global warming had already diminished polar ice, would continue to do so and doom the estimated 23,000 or so bears to extinction by perhaps 2050.
If the bears were listed, the service would be obliged to designate “critical habitat.” The Endangered Species Act provides that each federal agency would have to `insure that any action authorized, funded or carried out by such agency is not likely to jeopardize any endangered species or threatened species or result in the destruction or adverse modification (our italics) of (critical) habitat of such species.”
The environmentalists, if not the service, could claim that any activity that emitted carbon dioxide, the chief gas causing the supposed warming, could not be authorized, financed or done by a federal agency. The agencies would have to bring the modern world to a crash as no fossil fuels could be burned in power plants, no highways built and so forth throughout the economy.
The plaintiffs’ claims are highly dubious. Polar ice is shrinking, but the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said in October that it was caused not by warming but a shift in wind patterns that pushed more ice out of the Arctic. Another report in January said surface warming in the Arctic was caused by unexplained atmospheric heat transfer from the tropics.
Polar bears have been around for 100,000 years, surviving much warmer temperatures before the last ice age. Population estimates are subject to huge and unknowable uncertainties. Native groups say there are more than there were several decades ago. Environmentalists are pursuing another petition to list a seal species as endangered - one eaten by bears, it seems. If there weren’t so many bears, there’d be more seals. Canada, on whose territory about two-thirds of the bears live, has refused to classify them as threatened or endangered. The United States should follow suit.
I have a sister-in-law who is into dog rescuing. Not on the scale you are, but she does do some local work.
Are you familiar with dogs who have been placed in a number of homes having what they are calling an “attachment disorder” - some of these dogs get real anxious when left alone. There are varying treatments for this. Do you know about the course of this problem - i.e., how long it lasts, and preferred treatments? I had heard about a treatment that you plug into the wall electrical outlet that is supposed to release a smell that is like that of a mother dog’s which calms such dogs down.
I copied an article without comment from the Boston Hearald! Now I don’t care who you are, but the Boston Herald is not one of the great bastions of conservative thought.
You really need to look deep within yourself to find the source of your bitterness.
You shouldn’t let the fact that a poor, old, over the hill fundy like me is happy bother you so much!
No matter what the ‘word’ is, it’s your little personal problem, not mine!
I’m just small enough that your ‘disgust’ with me brings me a little smile. Normally one has to personally attack someone as small and bitter as you to get a rise but all I have to do to annoy you is merely exist!
One must take life’s little pleasures where he finds them!
Apparently, if you are the ambassador to Iraq, and this government is giving you money, while you’re socking all your income in banks around the world, you have a God given right to complain when someone says, “Hey, spend your own money!”
Iraq envoy rejects Democrats’ anger over US funding:
. . . and republicans denounce Obama because of Wright?
Leader of GOP convention quits after Myanmar ties reported.
Coordinator of GOP convention quits after Newsweek report on his firm’s ties to Myanmar junta
The man picked by the John McCain campaign to run the 2008 Republican National Convention resigned Saturday after a report that his lobbying firm used to represent the military regime in Myanmar.
Hagee makes Wright look like a boy scout. Where’s the uproar from the media? Maybe because Hagee isn’t black? I’ll believe McCain when he denounces Hagee’s endorsement.
I tried to respond a couple of times before I left home this morning, but my neighbor’s WiFi went away!
I’ve placed a few dogs with separation anxiety but I’m afraid I can’t be much help. They’ve all been special cases, not much to learn from one I could use on the next one.
I try to place them in homes with retired people that can prety much stay with them all day. Some have worked well being placed in homes with other dogs.
Will have to remember that name. The odor treatment, I was mentioning above, lets off the scent of a nursing mother - whatever that would be like. It is kind of expensive as I understand it.
Yeah, Hank, the seperation anxiety disorder does seem like a fairly intractable problem. Attachment to others is so evoluntionarily important to dogs - with the pack business, it would make sense that disruptions in this area would be difficult to overcome. But, maybe God has something to do with, too. :)
The dog Dr Weiss helped us with had some very severe problems, didn’t trust anyone. He was impossibel to place with anybody. He thinks Samson is a rock star! He follows Samson around like he’s his hero.
With our new puppy, we now have five dogs and Samson has one!
After reading Chas/Square Peg argue math on what became a very humorous thread yesterday (Open 5/11), I now understand something about the Socialists and their argument for higher taxes for the rich.
You see, the Socialists either 1)Do not have the math and comprehension skills or 2)Intentionally lie with numbers to support their argument for higher taxes for the rich and less for them - ie. Redistribution of Wealth.
So, maybe we can all do some MATH exercises today to torture the Math-Challenged Socialists a bit more.
So, everyone had their taxes cut by the Bush tax cuts, by at leat 9%.
Capn want to play the game with percentages and dollars and say that someone making $125,000 getting a 17% tax cut is somehow unfair if someone making $60,000 gets a 16% tax cut.
Da*n unfair, ain’t it?
Gee, if you make more money, you pay more taxes. If you get almost the same percentage tax cut as someone making less money, then your cut totals more dollars. Duh.
The married person making $125,000 also paid $19,463 in taxes - MUCH MORE DOLLARS then the married person making $60,000 who paid $5,513 in taxes.
Let’s do some more math - The one with $125,000 in income paid 3.5 times more tax, while making just 2 times more income.
Speaking of taxes, to measure the benefit you’d also need to take into consideration if something which was being taxed, was no longer subject to tax. And, say capital gains tax reduction which has only a minimal affect on the vast majority of citizens. Also, credits which benefit businesses.
Much more to the story than simple tax bracket percentages.
To help the Socialists better understand the US Income Tax and the Redistribution of Wealth, here is one short math lesson for today:
3RD GRADE MATH LESSON:
Say the Sales Tax is 5%. You buy a video game for $100. You pay $5 in Sales Tax.
(Chas, get your calculator to check my math: 100 x .05 = 5)
Say the Sales Tax is INCREASED from 5% to 6%. Is that a 1% Increase or a 20% Increase in the Sales Tax?
Let’s test it, boys and goils.
I buy the same video game as above for $100. With a 6% Sales Tax the Sales Tax is now $6, instead of $5.
(Chas: 100 x .06 = 6)
So, I have now paid $6 instead of $5 in Sales Tax on the same $100 video game. That’s a $1 increase in the sales tax OR (Chas get your calculator) a 20% Increase in the Sales Tax!
($1 divided by $5 = 20%)
So, going from a 5% Sales Tax to a 6% Sales Tax is a 20% INCREASE in the Sales Tax.
One of the CONs wrote: “Let’s do some more math - The one with $125,000 in income paid 3.5 times more tax, while making just 2 times more income.
Your right Capn - that ain’t fair.”
Okay, CON, I got a deal for you. Since poor people pay so much less in taxes and you’re saying they get a break, why don’t you voluntarily cut your salary down to 20 or 30 K a year so you can get their “unfair” advantage?
Yeah.
Didn’t think so.
When you make more, and thus benefit more, you should pay more. That’s the foundation of progressive taxation that every modern advanced society uses.
If you don’t like it, you might try Somalia. Taxes are very low there.
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Also, it’s ridiculous to argue that someone with taxable income of 1 million dollars getting a three percent cut is fair because the guy who makes 10K also gets a three percent cut.
The million dollar earner gets a 30,000 tax break. The 10K earner only gets 300 dollars back. There’s no comparison between the two.
Obviously, you can’t just look at percentages–you also have to look at the numbers those percentages represent.
Take for instance this headline: “CRIME RATES SOAR 30 PERCENT!”
A little town who had 9 instances of shoplifting in 2007 and 12 in 2008 would indeed have a big percentage increase. But do three more crimes in a year justify the idea of a “soaring 30 percent increase?” Technically, yes. Realistically, no.
The previous lesson boyz and goils was calculating the impact of a Sales Tax Increase. The next lesson for the Socialist Children (raised in public schoolz) is to see the impact of a Sales Tax Decrease.
3RD GRADE MATH LESSON NUMBER 2:
When Taxes Go Down
Say the Sales Tax is 6%. You buy a video game for $100. You pay $6 in Sales Tax.
(Chas, get your calculator to check my math: 100 x .06 = 6)
Say the Sales Tax is DECREASED from 6% to 5%. Is that a 1% Decrease or a 16.6% Decrease in the Sales Tax?
Let’s test it, boys and goils.
I buy the same video game as above for $100. With a 5% Sales Tax the Sales Tax is now $5, instead of $6.
(Chas: 100 x .05 = 5)
So, I have now paid $5 instead of $6 in Sales Tax on the same $100 video game. That’s a $1 decrease in the sales tax OR (Chas get your calculator) a 16.6% Decrease in the Sales Tax!
($1 divided by $6 = 16.6%)
So, going from a 6% Sales Tax to a 5% Sales Tax is a 16.6% DECREASE in the Sales Tax.
Also, taxes don’t take “money from the rich to give to the poor.”
About half of the income taxes (some estimate that it’s already over half) go to fund present and past military costs and the interest on the debt from military costs.
And your taxes are for the most part flowing to big companies with huge profits–Halliburton, Bechtold, CACI, Blackwater, Raytheon, et al.
The small percentage that flows directly to “poor people” goes mainly to children.
I suppose you just want them to starve.
I’ve got an idea. Why don’t you show me one thriving, successful country that doesn’t use progressive taxation like we have here?
Regular, thanks for helping yesterday with the Math lessons.
Since most the children now have ADD, I figured we’d have to repeat this exercise every day until Chas admits that he was W-R-O-N-G.
Regular, can you help with the lesson? My union contract only allows me to teach 10 hours per week, while doing lesson plans and training for 30 hours per week.
BTW, I already showed beyond a reasonable shadow of a doubt that Chas was correct. AND the CONs were correct.
It just depends on whether one looks at the difference in tax in real terms (24 percent -21 percent = 3 percent) or in percentage terms (21 percent / 24 percent is 88 percent or 12 percent lower).
Okay, CON, I got a deal for you. Since poor people pay so much less in taxes and you’re saying they get a break, why don’t you voluntarily cut your salary down to 20 or 30 K a year so you can get their “unfair” advantage?
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Why should I do that? Will you?
I earn my money Capn.
There’s a big differnce between EARNING money and TAKING it from someone else. Didn’t you learn that in 3rd grade?
CapnAmerica
Posted May 12, 2008 at 11:16 am
CapnAmerica
Posted May 12, 2008 at 11:16 am | Permalink
BTW, I already showed beyond a reasonable shadow of a doubt that Chas was correct. AND the CONs were correct.
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Yeah…
The following conclusion by Chas is correct? rofl!
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Chas
Posted May 11, 2008 at 10:29 pm | Permalink
Max’s table is based on a false premise… What more can I say?? There IS no more to say!!
Chas
Posted May 11, 2008 at 8:52 pm | Permalink
24% — 21% = 10% Cut?
Gee, must be the New Math
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Chas didn’t have a clue what he was talking about and got caught with his smelly foot in his mouth.
There’s a big differnce between EARNING money and TAKING it from someone else. Didn’t you learn that in 3rd grade?”
Who is the Capn taking his money from? Why do they allow him to take money from them? Max what illegal act does the Capn commit that upsets you so much? Max what do you do to earn your money? I certainly don’t pay you for your commentary. Did you really go to the 3rd grade Max.
Magnaminous Max, worrying about the poor single person pulling down a little over 10,000 per month, or the poor couple pulling down 20 grand a month that might see their tax share increased.
Max: the consummate republican neocon. His box limits him to two trains of thought: guns and money. But then again, when you consider the source, what else could you possibly expect?
The nursing home where my mother lived until she passed away last month has a dog with an interesting history. His family was killed in the Greensburg tornado, but he survived. He seems very happy, now that he has a place where people love him. But when the fire or tornado siren goes off (small town), he hides under a bed or in a closet for days.
Pre, my Mom’s nursing home had a dog too. She was very sweet, but she didnt like it when my dog went to visit Mom. She would kinda growl and bristle up as if to say “Beat it bub. These are MY old folks!”
She was a rescue dog too, so maybe she thought my girl was gonna beat her out of her job. And my girl loved to visit the home because, well, ya know, old people drop a lot of food on the floor!
I think nursing home companion animals are wonderful. This home had a cat too, but it was a problem because some residents were allergic to cats.
Max, your problem is that you are switching from percentages to dollars in the same equation.
An increase from 5% to 6% is clearly a 1% increase. PERCENTAGE MAX.
Dollars? $1 increase. Compared to the previous tax dollars, that IS 20%. But the PERCENTAGE increase is just 1% - no matter which CON knife you slice it with.
I dont have time for this now. My plane leaves in an hour. So, back on the road.
And knock off with your infantile name calling. It makes you look sicker than you already are!
You want fair taxes, you should be screaming about all those people/corporations that set up shell off shore companies so the rest of their fellow citizens can make up the difference.
The Conservatives have become the minority. 50% of the country now pays 3% of the income tax. The top 50% pays 97% of the income tax. Those with their hands-out now outnumber those with their hands working and earning income.
The politicians (now on both sides) are spending Government money as fast as they can to buy your votes. The politicians know the Socialists will win in the short-run. In the long-run, they DON’T CARE!
In the long run, the Socialists will unite everyone - with all of us sitting on our collective Marxist a**es at the same time. And when no one works in America anymore, the lights will go out.
And you Socialists, are more then happy to hold your hands out and be bought and paid for by Politicians who promise you everything your lil heart desires. You think money grows on trees or that some people will keep working in order to pay for you.
Phantom
Posted May 12, 2008 at 12:05 pm | Permalink
You want fair taxes, you should be screaming about all those people/corporations that set up shell off shore companies so the rest of their fellow citizens can make up the difference.
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You mean like the Clintonistas Dubai investments?
The Square Hole keeps getting deeper, and Chas keeps diggin.
And I keep LMFAO!
(Lil f*ggot in his big jet airplane! And the chicks are free!)
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SquarePeg
Posted May 12, 2008 at 12:02 pm | Permalink
Max, your problem is that you are switching from percentages to dollars in the same equation.
An increase from 5% to 6% is clearly a 1% increase. PERCENTAGE MAX.
Dollars? $1 increase. Compared to the previous tax dollars, that IS 20%. But the PERCENTAGE increase is just 1% - no matter which CON knife you slice it with.
I dont have time for this now. My plane leaves in an hour. So, back on the road.
And knock off with your infantile name calling. It makes you look sicker than you already are!
“In the long run, the Socialists will unite everyone - with all of us sitting on our collective Marxist a**es at the same time. And when no one works in America anymore, the lights will go out.”
Max,
You give the:
Socialists
Communists
Liberals
Greens
Muslims
Hippies
Leftists
Atheists
Unionists
and anybody I left out. You give way to much credit to the power of these groups. All groups have sub groups. No single leader can unify these groups.
Two cats in the one my mom was in. They added the second one just for her, and the damn thing stayed in HER room. Not that the cat had a choice…
Yes, those animals do make a difference. I noticed in the various assisted living places and the nursing home that birds are a big favorite, too. Canaries out the wazoo. :)
Some of the Socialist Nations produce some of the best national economies in the world. And they do it by not working? Max, change your friggin koolade! The guys in the white coats will be lookin for you!
And if Max, the over-anxious capitalist, cannot see the potential income from “green” industries in the very near future, then Max is going to lose a lot of his capitalistic future income possibilities! And some of the rest of us eeeeevil libs will be banking dollars hand over fist!
And, say capital gains tax reduction which has only a minimal affect on the vast majority of citizens.
Really? Over 100 million Americans are invested in equities.
It’s one thing for you liberals to be bickering over how much of MY MONEY to steal, but it is quite another to LIE to justify your points.
BTW, anyone else hear Obama this past week? In an interview he has dropped his definition of wealthy all the way down to “over 100,000 dollars”. That can only mean his advisors are now thinking any tax hikes to bring in the revenue he wants, will have to include the middle class too.
Wind generators — Somebody has to engineer them. Somebody has to manufacture them. Somebody has to sell the materials to manufacture them. Somebody has to assemble them. Somebody has to transport those giants. Somebody has to market them. Somebody has to sell them.
Wow! LOTS of $$$$ just in wind generators!
Same thing with hydrogen fuel cells. Electric hybrid cars. All of the GREEN industries are going to produce Billions of dollars of income, not to mention tax revenue!
And Max thinks the libs are not working? What a friggin Joke Max has become! Not thinking going on in that CON brain, for sure!
If Max wanted to secure his financial future, he should be out there investing in all kinds of Green Industry — And then Max could sit on his CON a$$ and watch the $$$$ roll in!
AmWay - I dont have the money to invest, but I can see that the possibilities are wide open for such investment, and it will be very profitable for those who CAN invest in the Green industries.
AmWay, how many people do you see now days making a fortune off of buggy whips? LOL
100 mil. are invested in equities, right, but primarily through their 401k’s and thus no benefit from capital gains tax reduction. They’ll pay their gains at the regular income tax rate.
“Somebody has to manufacture them. Somebody has to sell the materials to manufacture them. Somebody has to assemble them. Somebody has to transport those giants. Somebody has to market them. Somebody has to sell them.”
YEah and dont forget Chas, someday… someone…
will have to decommission those towers, tear them down, and clean up after they are gone.
Very few communties got agreements about the END of the windfarms at the begining. If wind becomes unprofitable or unworkable, the local counties and communties will be left to clean up after them.
And even the few communties who GOT those agreements up front cant be sure the companies and their shell game identities wont obscure who pays.
Just like any love affair, it’s all good in the beginning. It’s the end that no one plans for. And the commercial viability of wind is, as yet, unproven over the long term.
Chas - an additional commetn on wind turbines: Who better than our aircraft industry to build them. Aerodynamics, strong lightweight materials - things they know how to do.
Phantom you are correct on the 401K sheltering from capital gain. But not all Americans work for companies with these programs, so not everyone is benefiting. Remember these 401K’s contain energy stock, so any increased taxes on the oil companies, will hurt these investors as well.
But regarding direct equity ownership:
” Equity ownership in America has grown over the past two decades, and now half of all U.S. households and one in three individuals own equities. Nearly 57 million U.S. households own stocks directly or through mutual funds, according to a survey by the Investment Company Institute (ICI) and the Securities Industry Association (SIA).”
ksfarmgrrl, there are some amazing advances being made in wind turbine technology. The old wind mill is basically inefficient. Some of the newer ones, both vertical and horizontal, have much better numbers, operate at lower wind speeds and take up much less space. Just some of the vids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQPQkhDE8eY&feature=related
Problem is getting the financial backing to replace the wind mills, or use newer tech instead. That’s going to take some major backing because of the foothold wind mills already have. Kind of like the hold coal plants held for so long and are now bucking their eventual deaths.
Chas
Posted May 12, 2008 at 12:29 pm | Permalink
Some of the Socialist Nations produce some of the best national economies in the world. And they do it by not working? Max, change your friggin koolade! The guys in the white coats will be lookin for you!
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Name one country Chas.
Then tell me how great is that country’s:
Inflation Rate
Unemployment Rate
Interest Rate
Export/Import Ratio
Average Income
Average Tax Rate
Average cost of living
Productivity Rate
Defense Budget as % of GDP
Phantom
Posted May 12, 2008 at 1:02 pm | Permalink
I heard Sen. Reid is proposing raising the margin requirements on oil speculators. Better book thos xom profits.
Watching developments closely Phantom. Anyone invested in energy should be following, as well as anyone interested in our environment.
If government increases the cost of doing business, the tax implications, shareholders will still demand and expect good returns. Easiest cut for XOM would be to cut the billions they spend on exploration (more than profits in North America) and development of new sources of energy.
In the long run, I’m thinking XOM should get out of the PR game trying to look green. Slow exploration and research and watch demand continue to push up the price per gallon.
But just this one company spends billions on research into new energy sources. Go ahead and tax them some more. Consumers will pay at the pump.
Chas
Posted May 12, 2008 at 12:39 pm | Permalink
AmWay - I dont have the money to invest, but I can see that the possibilities are wide open for such investment, and it will be very profitable for those who CAN invest in the Green industries.
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Name one company Chas.
Then tell me how great is their:
Stock Price, Current and 52 week high/low
Dividends/share
P/E Ratio
ROI
Net Income
Revenue
Max: Most western democracies have a greater social attitude than the US but are hardly socialist states. Mostly they are European, especially Nordics states, along with New Zealand, Australia, Canada and Japan. They’d be amused if not annoyed with the term “socialalist” describing their governance.They are all republics or kingdoms with a Parliament, not subservient citizens of undemocratic states. Look up the international placements for standards of living, education, health, longevity, etc. I have and you’d be surprised. When I see the words liberal, communist or socialist bandied about, it makes me think some posters can’t tell the difference between Karl Marx and Groucho Marx. Your benchmarks to determine a livestyle or quality of life, are not universally accepted.
The Effects of Stroke
Different sides of the brain deal with different areas of human intellectual functioning. Generally speaking, brain damage due to a stroke causes the kinds of problems noted below. However, it is important to note that brain injury in left-handed individuals results in effects that are exactly the opposite of those explained below.
Left Brain Injury (right-sided weakness (hemiplegia) )
Those with left brain injury and a paralyzed right side are more likely to have problems with speech and language. Apart from language problems, these individuals tend to be cautious, hesitant, anxious and disorganized when faced with an unfamiliar problem. Many of those with right hemiplegia need frequent assurance that they are doing okay, with lots of immediate positive feedback. Breaking tasks down into steps and practicing often will aid learning.
Right brain injury (left hemiplegia)
People often assume that if a stroke has not affected language and speech, a stroke survivor is not impaired. This is not true! Left hemiplegia may result in problems with spatial-perceptual tasks - the ability to judge distance, size, position, rate of movement, form and how parts relate to wholes. People with severe spatial-perceptual deficits may have more trouble with self-care than those with equally severe language deficits. They may not be able to read a paper - not because they can’t read, but because they lose their place on the page. They tend to have a behavioural style that is too quick and impulsive, and behave in a way that makes overestimating their abilities easy. They are often unaware of their deficits, and may think themselves capable of tasks they are not-driving for instance, which even with minor spatial-perceptual disabilities can be dangerous.
Depression
Depression resulting from a stroke is one of the most difficult factors for a spouse and family to deal with. A certain amount of crying, though upsetting to the family, may be a natural and normal emotional response to the stroke survivor’s greatly changed circumstances. However, chemical changes caused by stroke may result in deeper depression and apathy, with the survivor appearing passive and detached, a state that will usually improve with time.
Emotional Lability
Often, excessive crying seems to have little relationship to sadness or what is happening around the survivor. This loss of emotional control due to brain injury is called emotional lability. Someone who is emotionally labile may not be sad when crying, happy when laughing, or angry when appearing hostile. If possible, interrupting the emotional behaviour of such a person (by clapping hands or snapping fingers) is usually a good idea, saving them embarrassment and fatigue.
Change in Personality
Changes in personality and emotional response are common after a stroke. The type, size and location of a stroke, as well as the individual’s previous personality all have a bearing on what these changes will be. The stroke survivor may seem a different person, showing feelings of anger, caution or anxiety that are completely out of character. The affected individual may also feel this-and feel less of a person.
Memory Deficits
Almost any brain injury, however slight, may cause memory problems, contributing to language, spatial-perceptual and retention span difficulties. For most stroke survivors, remembering old information (from before the stroke) remains easy, while new learning is difficult.
Generalization
Some stroke survivors are capable of learning new information, but are unable to apply that learning to other similar situations (generalization). For instance, they may make safe transfers to and from a wheelchair while in the hospital, but are unable to once at home. They may become very sensitive to and often fearful of changes in their environment, and will thus benefit from, and be comforted by, an effectively established routine.
Sensory deprivation and over-stimulation
Many recent stroke survivors are overwhelmed by too much stimulation. When visiting, go singly or in small, quiet groups, and speak one at a time.
Conversely, some stroke survivors may have diminished sensations of touch, pressure, sight or pain, causing them to suffer a constant level of sensory deprivation, leading to psychological stress. The quiet of night may compound this-a radio playing softly or a soft light left on may help.
Quality Control
Even minor brain damage affects a memory related area of behaviour called quality control. This refers to how well individuals check and control their own behaviour. A previously fastidious person may fail to bathe or zip his fly, or a formerly polite person may become rude and profane.
Please be polite when posting and remember some have mental and emotional problems as well as the physcial problems associated with the Cap Lock Syndrome. Be kind to one another.
I’m starting to think that Max is a few fries short of a happy meal.
He asks how much “pies” should cost?
I keep asking him to show me the thriving modern country without progressive taxation.
Maybe we shouldn’t bother to answer his questions until he answers ours.
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Regular, as we all know, is a total lost cause. Here’s a guy who’s entire income rests on the largesse of the American taxpayer, and he defends to the death Paris Hilton’s tax break.
Sweden is a Socialist State — Norway is a Socialist State — Denmark is a Socialist State –
England is a Socialist State — France is a Socialist State — Germany is a Socialist State — Spain is a Socialist State — Italy is a Socialist State — Greece is a Socialist State –Japan is a Socialist State — Israel is a Socialist State!!
They all hold their own FREE elections — They have their own Parliaments; or Congresses; or Kinessets or whatever they call them in their countries…
The PEOPLE in those countries WORK for a living… And they dont all make the same income either… And when they get old, and they retire, their countries take care of them… They have good education for their people… And they dont have to worry about going bankrupt if they suffer a catastorophic illness…
Now, wherever you are getting your stupid garbage about Socialist countries, is just flat out lying to you…
Sometimes, Max… SOMETIMES… even when it pains me to do so… I just HAVE to answer your Bull Shit…. If for no other reason, than to let others reading this Blog, that not everybody who reads the Eagle is as big of an SOB LIAR as YOU and your fellow Goons!!
Thats right Blog readers… Max and his kind are not big in numbers… just loud of mouth, and repetitive of keyboard… They believe if they tell their LIES often enough, that even THEY might believe them!!
Remember folks… it is the Right Wingers who come from the RED States… :-)
Let me tell you something, if you have to use two or more different ID’s to post on the same Anonymous board, then there is something wrong with YOU. And that goes for everyone who does that.
If you’re such a weenie that you can’t defend your own posts without having to make some name up to defend you, then there is something wrong with your thinking.
About 159 years ago someone named Karl Marx sat down to put his dream to words; his dream of a communist state that was to become a worker’s paradise. Somehow it didn’t work out all that well, but it certainly wasn’t for a lack of effort. Tens of millions of people died in Russia, China and elsewhere to show what an incredibly bad idea Marx had.
It’s ironic to me that the countries who suffered under the rule of Marx’ worker’s paradise have largely rejected so many of the tenants set forth in his Communist Manifesto, while the one country that held communism at bay for over 70 years and eventually destroyed it still embraces many of those ideas.
We’ve gone through this before, but once again (hey, there might be new Nuze readers!) let me tell you of just two of the essential elements of a communist society as set forth in Marx’s work:
1. A progressive graduated income tax.
2. Government education of the children.
Countries across Europe, especially former communist countries, are moving from a progressive income tax to either consumption taxes or a flat tax. Ever heard of the Irish Miracle? And across Europe more and more people are being allowed the freedom to choose where their children shall be educated. They choose the school, the tax money follows. And yes, more and more this is including private schools.
See, Max, you just proved your already well known ignorance… I havent said ONE WORD about Karl Marx, and his Manifesto… And thats because I am talking about Socialist States… NOT Communist States!! Are you that STUPID that you continue to think they are the same thing?? LOLOL What a JOKE you are Max… And with a name like Grobnik, one would think you would know better!!
BTW, Max, I believe Japan is doing pretty earned good economically… not to mention Sweden, and England, and Germany, and France… South Africa isnt even doing too bad, since they got rid of that evil stinking Apartheid system!!
Inflation Rate
Unemployment Rate
Interest Rate
Export/Import Ratio
Average Income
Average Tax Rate
Average cost of living
Productivity Rate
Defense Budget as % of GDP
Baby-hating sophomore Roderick King, a student senate leader at the University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point, told pro-life display supporters they have no right to express their opinion on the volatile issue of abortion, while leading a gang of vandals in ripping up their authorized pro-life display of white crosses. After a spineless university security guard appeared, Mr. King continued ranting and ripping up crosses, although caught on video.
The spineless Student Government Association declined to take any action to protect academic freedom or the First Amendment.
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Pro-lifers have again found aborted late-term babies, medical records, and biohazard waste illegally dumped in another Michigan abortion mill’s garbage bin. Six dead babies of 16 to 20 weeks gestation were discovered April 12 in a garbage bin outside the Women’s Advisory abortion mill in Livonia, MI, owned by abortionist quack Reginald Sharpe, who has received a warning, which may be more than previous Michigan abortionist quack Alberto Holdari got for dumping babies, medical records, and waste in a garbage bin.
See the YouTube video if you have a strong stomach for viewing mangled feet, legs, skulls, and eyes retrieved from garbage, at video page
youtube.com/watch?v=aIehOHSG1ZI
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46% of all health insurance plans in the USofA cover elective abortions. Check your medical policy. Is part of your monthly medical premium paying for mangling, dismembering, poisoning, and beheading babies that end up in garbage bins or incinerators? Does your employer know how you feel about such coverage?
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Canadian abortionist quack Henry Morgentaler, the one man most responsible for unrestricted, taxpayer-funded, rampant abortions in Canada, appears to have, in order to further his abortion agenda in the past, used threats of blackmail involving the release of records of mistresses and relatives of elected officials who committed abortions. The proof is in his unearthed threatening letter of April 28, 1973 letter to Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau.
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The tiny dead body of a newborn girl, likely born alive and murdered, was found Friday night wrapped in bloody towels and clothes in a dryer in the laundry room of the Victory Home rehab center in San Antonio, TX. Policy prohibits pregnant women from living in the facility, which treats boozers and junkies.
Ya know Max, it doesnt take LINKS to know what is or isnt true… Just look around you, for God’s sake… Everywhere you go, and everything you do is benefited in some way through Tax Dollars, or government subsidies… Even for YOU Max, some tax payer more wealthy than you — helps pay for the roads you drive on… for the rail transportation to deliver your goods and products, and food… for the medical knowledge of your family doctor… for Everything, EXCEPT for the Church you attend!! Hallelujah for that small favor!!
Max, you cant make your morning coffee without tax dollars at work… You cant wash your clothes without tax dollars at work… And Max, MANY of those tax dollars come from people a LOT wealthier then YOU will ever be…
But, MAX, the Stupid, can only see those things that HIS tax dollars support for those who are poorer than Max… Do you think, maybe, Max, that somebody wealthier than YOU is bitching about all the tax dollars YOU are using, and taking from HIS pocket, they way you bitch about those less fortunate than you??
I would bet the answer is: YES!!
Before you go flaming much more, maybe you better think about the benefits YOU get from tax dollars from the wealthy-er than YOU crowd!! :-)
Oh, Max, if its good enough for YOU to spout off all day without any facts… Well, I guess its good enough for ME to spout off occasionally about what ANYbody who can READ, or HEAR, or SEE already knows, without the need for some damn link….
“He said he had a typo bolding the name McCleur in that obiturary. He lied.”
Max, I didnt BOLD anything… The name that ended up in bold was NOT McCleur — it was McClure… And it was not related to the blog’s own James McCluer… Everybody knows that already… Why dont you stick it where the sun dont shine, and forget about your constant LIE about the subject!! It is WAY past outdated!! LOL like YOU Max… LOL
“Not trying to be mean, but one time you unintentionally CAP LOCKED someone’s personal information, I believe, but said that was UNintentional.”
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I have NEVER posted anybody’s personal information on this Blog… NEVER This is not the place for posting personal information, as James will be most happy to tell you!
So, why dont YOU put it where the sun dont shine along with Max?? eh??
Have you noticed the increased attention a flat tax is getting in Europe? Even a couple of those socialist countries Chas mentioned are thinking about converting to a flat tax - everyone pays the same rate.
Very popular in eastern Europe, but France, Germany, and England are considering it.
No longer the leader in political change, I’m sure the USA will follow the flat tax movement and European lead eventually.
Projected changes in future sea ice conditions, if realized, will result in loss of approximately 2/3 of the world’s current polar bear population by the mid 21st century.
Because the observed trajectory of Arctic sea ice decline appears to be underestimated by currently available models, this assessment of future polar bear status may be conservative.”
And while many aspects of some of the countries listed above are socialized, I am not sure they would consider themselves socialist. Perhaps. Perhaps not
FYI
Inflation rate for the “socialist” countries listed above:
Sweden 2.0
Norway 0.4
Denmark 1.50
England 2.4
France 1.50
Germany 2.0
Spain 2.4
Italy 1.70
Greece 2.6
Japan 0
Isreal 0.4
European Union (collectiely 1.8)
US (latest) 2.7
Looks like our inflation rate is higher thaan any of the Countries I listed, Max… And, oh, Max, you DID ask for a percentage increase, and not a Dollar amount… Please try to keep up with your own fiasco…
But, sorry Max, anybody can plainly see that an increase from 5% to 6% is a 1% increase… Now, go sit on it and spin, spin, spin!!! No wonder you are so friggin dizzy all the time!!
That’s why I support sex education, birth control access and safe, legal and rare abortions.
Now ask Parkay why he wants more unwanted babies.
Ask him why he’s dumpster diving to find body parts…wasn’t it him that was trying to BUY baby parts? Is that so that he can throw them in a dumpster and profess to find them?
Trust me when I say this..it wouldn’t be beyond him.
On income of $10,000/year, If my taxes increases from 5% to 6% — and of 5% and 6% are tax percentages of my INCOME… Then the percentage of my Income that is increased by the tax increase is 1% (or, $100)
$100 = 1% increase of my income for the tax increase… The Tax percentage is on the INCOME Max… NOT on the Tax!! C’mon, idiot, use the brain God gave you!!
Let’s see - the Flat Tax conservatives want to effectively raise taxes for the poor, the working poor and the middle class while simultaneously giving massive tax cuts for the upper class and rich people.
That sounds like a good recipe for an economic policy.
Let’s say we do away with Income Tax, and go to a consumption tax.
Max has an income of $100,000 for the year. Max has consumption taxes, lets say, of 10% on goods and services(instead of an income tax table) —
Let’s say Max spends ohhh, $40,000 on goods and services, and spends $4,000 on taxes…
Lets say Max’s not so hard working cousin, Jax, only makes $40,000… And just for grins, let’s say Jax’s spending on goods and services is also 40% ($1,600)
On the consumption tax, Jax would only pay in $160 in taxes…
Max is still going to pay more taxes than his lazier cousin, Jax. And Max will still be arm flailing and bitching cause he wont think its fair!
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Polar bears OK without our help
Says the Boston Herald:
Thursday is the deadline set by a federal judge in Alaska for the Fish and Wildlife Service to decide whether the polar bear is a threatened or endangered species. All the evidence shows the polar bear doesn’t need his help. Environmental groups petitioned for such a listing and sued when a decision was not forthcoming by the deadline. They claimed that global warming had already diminished polar ice, would continue to do so and doom the estimated 23,000 or so bears to extinction by perhaps 2050.
If the bears were listed, the service would be obliged to designate “critical habitat.” The Endangered Species Act provides that each federal agency would have to `insure that any action authorized, funded or carried out by such agency is not likely to jeopardize any endangered species or threatened species or result in the destruction or adverse modification (our italics) of (critical) habitat of such species.”
The environmentalists, if not the service, could claim that any activity that emitted carbon dioxide, the chief gas causing the supposed warming, could not be authorized, financed or done by a federal agency. The agencies would have to bring the modern world to a crash as no fossil fuels could be burned in power plants, no highways built and so forth throughout the economy.
The plaintiffs’ claims are highly dubious. Polar ice is shrinking, but the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said in October that it was caused not by warming but a shift in wind patterns that pushed more ice out of the Arctic. Another report in January said surface warming in the Arctic was caused by unexplained atmospheric heat transfer from the tropics.
Polar bears have been around for 100,000 years, surviving much warmer temperatures before the last ice age. Population estimates are subject to huge and unknowable uncertainties. Native groups say there are more than there were several decades ago. Environmentalists are pursuing another petition to list a seal species as endangered - one eaten by bears, it seems. If there weren’t so many bears, there’d be more seals. Canada, on whose territory about two-thirds of the bears live, has refused to classify them as threatened or endangered. The United States should follow suit.
On a much happier note. . .
We now have a new addition to our house, Nicki!
Nicki is an eight week old Beardie from Washington. I flew to Seattle and back over the week end to bring her home.
She’s passed the miniature Schnauzer test and Samson is taking care of her like a good big brother.
I see we start the day again with the usual reichwing, evangelical “christian”, global climate change denial, diatribe from the Price household.
Isn’t about time from the gun crazed marine-boy to chime in in defense of hi ol’ pappy?
Hank,
I have a sister-in-law who is into dog rescuing. Not on the scale you are, but she does do some local work.
Are you familiar with dogs who have been placed in a number of homes having what they are calling an “attachment disorder” - some of these dogs get real anxious when left alone. There are varying treatments for this. Do you know about the course of this problem - i.e., how long it lasts, and preferred treatments? I had heard about a treatment that you plug into the wall electrical outlet that is supposed to release a smell that is like that of a mother dog’s which calms such dogs down.
Just curious.
Good morning my dear Apophis!
I copied an article without comment from the Boston Hearald! Now I don’t care who you are, but the Boston Herald is not one of the great bastions of conservative thought.
You really need to look deep within yourself to find the source of your bitterness.
You shouldn’t let the fact that a poor, old, over the hill fundy like me is happy bother you so much!
…..BITTER isn’t the word
DISGUSTED with your type is much more accurate.
Well, my dear Apophis,
No matter what the ‘word’ is, it’s your little personal problem, not mine!
I’m just small enough that your ‘disgust’ with me brings me a little smile. Normally one has to personally attack someone as small and bitter as you to get a rise but all I have to do to annoy you is merely exist!
One must take life’s little pleasures where he finds them!
“The United States should follow suit.”
Uh huh.
It’s fairly obvious the cut n paste is an editorial. And so what? The Eagle runs that loon Cal Thomas.
Probably why no link was provided.
…sorry hankie, YOU are the one with the problem.
It’s obvious YOU are the one with the”fringe” BELIEFS.
I enjoy the personal attacks on any of your kind, it’s my goal in life.
Apparently, if you are the ambassador to Iraq, and this government is giving you money, while you’re socking all your income in banks around the world, you have a God given right to complain when someone says, “Hey, spend your own money!”
Iraq envoy rejects Democrats’ anger over US funding:
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Iraq_envoy_rejects_Democrats_anger__05112008.html
Worst administration ever:
The US Attorney who wasn’t fired: How Bush pick helped prosecute top Democrat-backed judge.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/How_Bush_US_attorney_riddled_with_0401.html
. . . and republicans denounce Obama because of Wright?
Leader of GOP convention quits after Myanmar ties reported.
Coordinator of GOP convention quits after Newsweek report on his firm’s ties to Myanmar junta
The man picked by the John McCain campaign to run the 2008 Republican National Convention resigned Saturday after a report that his lobbying firm used to represent the military regime in Myanmar.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Leader_of_GOP_convention_quits_afte_05102008.html
Hagee makes Wright look like a boy scout. Where’s the uproar from the media? Maybe because Hagee isn’t black? I’ll believe McCain when he denounces Hagee’s endorsement.
John Hagee’s McCain Endorsement Sparks Uproar.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/29/john-hagees-mccain-endor_n_89189.html
McCain’s relationships with some very questionable people are slipping under the radar, for instance, Gordon Liddy:
http://www.goleft.tv/viewer.asp?v=1360
http://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/
Great cartoon from today’s paper!
Good mornig Steven,
I tried to respond a couple of times before I left home this morning, but my neighbor’s WiFi went away!
I’ve placed a few dogs with separation anxiety but I’m afraid I can’t be much help. They’ve all been special cases, not much to learn from one I could use on the next one.
I try to place them in homes with retired people that can prety much stay with them all day. Some have worked well being placed in homes with other dogs.
I don’t think I’ve ever really ‘fixed’ one.
We have a puppy mill dog we rescued four or five years ago. Dr Sandy Weiss helped us with him.
She is very good with problem dogs and she’s local. Dr Weiss is a nationally acclaimed animal behaviorist. Truly a national treasure!
Hank
“…Dr Sandy Weiss helped us with him.”
Will have to remember that name. The odor treatment, I was mentioning above, lets off the scent of a nursing mother - whatever that would be like. It is kind of expensive as I understand it.
Yeah, Hank, the seperation anxiety disorder does seem like a fairly intractable problem. Attachment to others is so evoluntionarily important to dogs - with the pack business, it would make sense that disruptions in this area would be difficult to overcome. But, maybe God has something to do with, too. :)
The dog Dr Weiss helped us with had some very severe problems, didn’t trust anyone. He was impossibel to place with anybody. He thinks Samson is a rock star! He follows Samson around like he’s his hero.
With our new puppy, we now have five dogs and Samson has one!
Oops!!
My wife just walked by and slapped me up side the head!
Emily Weiss. It’s EMILY Weiss!
http://www.emilyweiss.com/about.html
Sorry.
After reading Chas/Square Peg argue math on what became a very humorous thread yesterday (Open 5/11), I now understand something about the Socialists and their argument for higher taxes for the rich.
You see, the Socialists either 1)Do not have the math and comprehension skills or 2)Intentionally lie with numbers to support their argument for higher taxes for the rich and less for them - ie. Redistribution of Wealth.
So, maybe we can all do some MATH exercises today to torture the Math-Challenged Socialists a bit more.
To start with, I’ll repost my post from yesterday - USING THE NUMBERS AND LINK POSTED BY CapnA.
Note, Chas accused me of lying with the numbers.
All I did was use CapnA’s numbers, I cited CapnA as the source and reposted the link FROM CapnA.
I then ADDED to CapnA’s numbers percentages of Tax Rates and percentages of Tax Cuts.
So, if my numbers are wrong, blame CapnA and his link.
Oh, an Income Tax thread, and I missed it!
Using Capn’s numbers and link from yesterday, I added percentages to make for a more thoughtful analysis.
For the challenged out there, I added 1) next to the old tax, the old tax rate 2) next to the new tax, the new tax rate 3) the Tax Cut perentage.
Single, income of 30,000 … $3,158 … 11% $2,756 … 9% Cut 13%
Single, income of 50,000 … $7,263 … 15% $6,606 … 13% Cut 9%
Married, income of $50,000 … $5,085 … 10% $4,013 … 8% Cut 21%
Married, income of $60,000 … $6,585 … 11% $5,513 … 9% Cut 16%
Single, income of $75,000 … $14,263 … 19% $12,856 … 17% Cut 10%
Married, income of $75,000 … $9,427 … 13% $7,763 … 10% Cut 18%
Single, income of $125,000 … $29,379 … 24% $26,472 … 21% Cut 10%
Married, income of $125,000* … $23,427 … 19% $19,463 … 16% Cut 17%
http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/23003.html
So, everyone had their taxes cut by the Bush tax cuts, by at leat 9%.
Capn want to play the game with percentages and dollars and say that someone making $125,000 getting a 17% tax cut is somehow unfair if someone making $60,000 gets a 16% tax cut.
Da*n unfair, ain’t it?
Gee, if you make more money, you pay more taxes. If you get almost the same percentage tax cut as someone making less money, then your cut totals more dollars. Duh.
The married person making $125,000 also paid $19,463 in taxes - MUCH MORE DOLLARS then the married person making $60,000 who paid $5,513 in taxes.
Let’s do some more math - The one with $125,000 in income paid 3.5 times more tax, while making just 2 times more income.
Your right Capn - that ain’t fair.
Speaking of taxes, to measure the benefit you’d also need to take into consideration if something which was being taxed, was no longer subject to tax. And, say capital gains tax reduction which has only a minimal affect on the vast majority of citizens. Also, credits which benefit businesses.
Much more to the story than simple tax bracket percentages.
Here’s the original post from Capn:
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/open-thread-510/#comment-346695
I’m waiting for the Income and Asset argument from you Socialists….
“But those who make $125,000 STILL have more money left even after paying taxes!”
Yeah, those evil successful people - YOU Socialists want to take 100% of what they make and give it to yourselves.
THAT IS REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH - so just be HONEST - You want to STEAL money from some and give to yourselves.
To help the Socialists better understand the US Income Tax and the Redistribution of Wealth, here is one short math lesson for today:
3RD GRADE MATH LESSON:
Say the Sales Tax is 5%. You buy a video game for $100. You pay $5 in Sales Tax.
(Chas, get your calculator to check my math: 100 x .05 = 5)
Say the Sales Tax is INCREASED from 5% to 6%. Is that a 1% Increase or a 20% Increase in the Sales Tax?
Let’s test it, boys and goils.
I buy the same video game as above for $100. With a 6% Sales Tax the Sales Tax is now $6, instead of $5.
(Chas: 100 x .06 = 6)
So, I have now paid $6 instead of $5 in Sales Tax on the same $100 video game. That’s a $1 increase in the sales tax OR (Chas get your calculator) a 20% Increase in the Sales Tax!
($1 divided by $5 = 20%)
So, going from a 5% Sales Tax to a 6% Sales Tax is a 20% INCREASE in the Sales Tax.
REPOST FROM YESTERDAY’S OPEN THREAD:
One of the CONs wrote: “Let’s do some more math - The one with $125,000 in income paid 3.5 times more tax, while making just 2 times more income.
Your right Capn - that ain’t fair.”
Okay, CON, I got a deal for you. Since poor people pay so much less in taxes and you’re saying they get a break, why don’t you voluntarily cut your salary down to 20 or 30 K a year so you can get their “unfair” advantage?
Yeah.
Didn’t think so.
When you make more, and thus benefit more, you should pay more. That’s the foundation of progressive taxation that every modern advanced society uses.
If you don’t like it, you might try Somalia. Taxes are very low there.
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Also, it’s ridiculous to argue that someone with taxable income of 1 million dollars getting a three percent cut is fair because the guy who makes 10K also gets a three percent cut.
The million dollar earner gets a 30,000 tax break. The 10K earner only gets 300 dollars back. There’s no comparison between the two.
Obviously, you can’t just look at percentages–you also have to look at the numbers those percentages represent.
Take for instance this headline: “CRIME RATES SOAR 30 PERCENT!”
A little town who had 9 instances of shoplifting in 2007 and 12 in 2008 would indeed have a big percentage increase. But do three more crimes in a year justify the idea of a “soaring 30 percent increase?” Technically, yes. Realistically, no.
It’s a waste of time Max. No amount of reasonable posting will change the mind of Chas or his airhead supporters.
And, I must say your posts are reasonable, loaded with facts, illustrative explanations and straight forward.
Doesn’t matter though, it’s lost on the tinfoils.
The previous lesson boyz and goils was calculating the impact of a Sales Tax Increase. The next lesson for the Socialist Children (raised in public schoolz) is to see the impact of a Sales Tax Decrease.
3RD GRADE MATH LESSON NUMBER 2:
When Taxes Go Down
Say the Sales Tax is 6%. You buy a video game for $100. You pay $6 in Sales Tax.
(Chas, get your calculator to check my math: 100 x .06 = 6)
Say the Sales Tax is DECREASED from 6% to 5%. Is that a 1% Decrease or a 16.6% Decrease in the Sales Tax?
Let’s test it, boys and goils.
I buy the same video game as above for $100. With a 5% Sales Tax the Sales Tax is now $5, instead of $6.
(Chas: 100 x .05 = 5)
So, I have now paid $5 instead of $6 in Sales Tax on the same $100 video game. That’s a $1 decrease in the sales tax OR (Chas get your calculator) a 16.6% Decrease in the Sales Tax!
($1 divided by $6 = 16.6%)
So, going from a 6% Sales Tax to a 5% Sales Tax is a 16.6% DECREASE in the Sales Tax.
Also, taxes don’t take “money from the rich to give to the poor.”
About half of the income taxes (some estimate that it’s already over half) go to fund present and past military costs and the interest on the debt from military costs.
And your taxes are for the most part flowing to big companies with huge profits–Halliburton, Bechtold, CACI, Blackwater, Raytheon, et al.
The small percentage that flows directly to “poor people” goes mainly to children.
I suppose you just want them to starve.
I’ve got an idea. Why don’t you show me one thriving, successful country that doesn’t use progressive taxation like we have here?
Good luck.
Regular, thanks for helping yesterday with the Math lessons.
Since most the children now have ADD, I figured we’d have to repeat this exercise every day until Chas admits that he was W-R-O-N-G.
Regular, can you help with the lesson? My union contract only allows me to teach 10 hours per week, while doing lesson plans and training for 30 hours per week.
BTW, I already showed beyond a reasonable shadow of a doubt that Chas was correct. AND the CONs were correct.
It just depends on whether one looks at the difference in tax in real terms (24 percent -21 percent = 3 percent) or in percentage terms (21 percent / 24 percent is 88 percent or 12 percent lower).
Sheesh, no wonder Korea is eating our lunch.
Okay, CON, I got a deal for you. Since poor people pay so much less in taxes and you’re saying they get a break, why don’t you voluntarily cut your salary down to 20 or 30 K a year so you can get their “unfair” advantage?
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Why should I do that? Will you?
I earn my money Capn.
There’s a big differnce between EARNING money and TAKING it from someone else. Didn’t you learn that in 3rd grade?
Last I heard, we had the FREEDOM in America to work hard, and earn as much money as we wanted to work for!
Nope, FREEDOM isn’t in the vocabulary of the Socialist Liberal Democrats.
Max, I am sorry to tell you this but you are teaching the wrong subject.
The first thing that has to be understood is the difference between Tax Rate and Tax Change.
Tax Rate is based on Total Income while Tax Change is based on Tax Paid. You have to move the reference point or you get the wrong answer.
Person A is married with an income of $125,000.
They pay $19,463 in taxes or 15.6% of their income in taxes.
Person B is married with an income of $60,000. They pay $5,513 in taxes or 9.2% of their income in taxes.
Person A makes 208% more income then Person B.
Person A pays 353% more income tax then Person B.
How much more “Progressive” do you Socialists want it? Come on, get some balls and give me the numbers you think are FAIR!
Person B gets the same or more benefits from Government as Person A.
Person A pays 353% more of the cost for these benefits.
So Person A is SUBSIDIZING the cost of Person B.
THAT is your redistribution of wealth.
CapnAmerica
Posted May 12, 2008 at 11:16 am
CapnAmerica
Posted May 12, 2008 at 11:16 am | Permalink
BTW, I already showed beyond a reasonable shadow of a doubt that Chas was correct. AND the CONs were correct.
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Yeah…
The following conclusion by Chas is correct? rofl!
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Chas
Posted May 11, 2008 at 10:29 pm | Permalink
Max’s table is based on a false premise… What more can I say?? There IS no more to say!!
Chas
Posted May 11, 2008 at 8:52 pm | Permalink
24% — 21% = 10% Cut?
Gee, must be the New Math
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Chas didn’t have a clue what he was talking about and got caught with his smelly foot in his mouth.
Certifiable idiocy is what Chas rates.
Person A and Person B each go to the Government Benefit store and buy a pie.
Person A pays $35.30 for the pie.
Person B pays $10.00 for the very same pie.
Person A is SUBSIDIZING the cost of Person B.
THAT is your redistribution of wealth.
SOCIALISTS - How much more should Person A pay for his pie? How much less should Person B pay for his pie?
COME-ON! Give me some numbers!
If this doesn’t crack you up, nothing will. The Bill O’Reilly melt down. Scroll down until you hit it.
http://thinkprogress.org/
Ok HUD, please carry-on with the lessons.
My union contract prevents me from teaching any more today.
So, here ends today’s lesson from Max.
“Why should I do that? Will you?
I earn my money Capn.
There’s a big differnce between EARNING money and TAKING it from someone else. Didn’t you learn that in 3rd grade?”
Who is the Capn taking his money from? Why do they allow him to take money from them? Max what illegal act does the Capn commit that upsets you so much? Max what do you do to earn your money? I certainly don’t pay you for your commentary. Did you really go to the 3rd grade Max.
Magnaminous Max, worrying about the poor single person pulling down a little over 10,000 per month, or the poor couple pulling down 20 grand a month that might see their tax share increased.
Max: the consummate republican neocon. His box limits him to two trains of thought: guns and money. But then again, when you consider the source, what else could you possibly expect?
Nice J M Walker, a video from 20 years ago?
I don’t like the guy either, but obviously being embarrased on National Television by an incompetent staff is enough to test anyone’s patience.
I don’t believe I stated anything either way, other then to point out some humor, reg. But since you bring it up . . .
Ok genious posters:
How much should Person A pay for the pie?
How much should Person B pay for the same pie?
My Massa, he says he can’t afford no more tax!
JM, if there weren’t Socialist Thiefs like you around, I wouldn’t worry so much about money or guns.
Just why do you care so much what I have?
Hank and Steven,
The nursing home where my mother lived until she passed away last month has a dog with an interesting history. His family was killed in the Greensburg tornado, but he survived. He seems very happy, now that he has a place where people love him. But when the fire or tornado siren goes off (small town), he hides under a bed or in a closet for days.
Phantom, how much more you want to steal?
Come on Chicken Sh*ts, give me the magic number!
How much should Person A pay for the pie?
How much should Person B pay for the same pie?
(They are ashamed to admit they want Person A to pay $45.30 and Person B to pay $0.)
(They are even more ashamed to admit they want Person A to pay $55.30 and Person B to receive $10 back for “buying” the same pie!)
OMG, now Walker = Socialist?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Pre, my Mom’s nursing home had a dog too. She was very sweet, but she didnt like it when my dog went to visit Mom. She would kinda growl and bristle up as if to say “Beat it bub. These are MY old folks!”
She was a rescue dog too, so maybe she thought my girl was gonna beat her out of her job. And my girl loved to visit the home because, well, ya know, old people drop a lot of food on the floor!
I think nursing home companion animals are wonderful. This home had a cat too, but it was a problem because some residents were allergic to cats.
“Just why do you care so much what I have?”
We don’t Max.
If your movement is so deep and powerful…..
Why didn’t your side overhaul the taxcode?
Eliminate social security?
Vastly increase the size of the military?
Max, your problem is that you are switching from percentages to dollars in the same equation.
An increase from 5% to 6% is clearly a 1% increase. PERCENTAGE MAX.
Dollars? $1 increase. Compared to the previous tax dollars, that IS 20%. But the PERCENTAGE increase is just 1% - no matter which CON knife you slice it with.
I dont have time for this now. My plane leaves in an hour. So, back on the road.
And knock off with your infantile name calling. It makes you look sicker than you already are!
You want fair taxes, you should be screaming about all those people/corporations that set up shell off shore companies so the rest of their fellow citizens can make up the difference.
That’s a great question Annie Moose at 11:57.
The Conservatives have become the minority. 50% of the country now pays 3% of the income tax. The top 50% pays 97% of the income tax. Those with their hands-out now outnumber those with their hands working and earning income.
The politicians (now on both sides) are spending Government money as fast as they can to buy your votes. The politicians know the Socialists will win in the short-run. In the long-run, they DON’T CARE!
In the long run, the Socialists will unite everyone - with all of us sitting on our collective Marxist a**es at the same time. And when no one works in America anymore, the lights will go out.
And you Socialists, are more then happy to hold your hands out and be bought and paid for by Politicians who promise you everything your lil heart desires. You think money grows on trees or that some people will keep working in order to pay for you.
Good luck with that.
Phantom
Posted May 12, 2008 at 12:05 pm | Permalink
You want fair taxes, you should be screaming about all those people/corporations that set up shell off shore companies so the rest of their fellow citizens can make up the difference.
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You mean like the Clintonistas Dubai investments?
The Square Hole keeps getting deeper, and Chas keeps diggin.
And I keep LMFAO!
(Lil f*ggot in his big jet airplane! And the chicks are free!)
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SquarePeg
Posted May 12, 2008 at 12:02 pm | Permalink
Max, your problem is that you are switching from percentages to dollars in the same equation.
An increase from 5% to 6% is clearly a 1% increase. PERCENTAGE MAX.
Dollars? $1 increase. Compared to the previous tax dollars, that IS 20%. But the PERCENTAGE increase is just 1% - no matter which CON knife you slice it with.
I dont have time for this now. My plane leaves in an hour. So, back on the road.
And knock off with your infantile name calling. It makes you look sicker than you already are!
“In the long run, the Socialists will unite everyone - with all of us sitting on our collective Marxist a**es at the same time. And when no one works in America anymore, the lights will go out.”
Max,
You give the:
Socialists
Communists
Liberals
Greens
Muslims
Hippies
Leftists
Atheists
Unionists
and anybody I left out. You give way to much credit to the power of these groups. All groups have sub groups. No single leader can unify these groups.
KFG,
Two cats in the one my mom was in. They added the second one just for her, and the damn thing stayed in HER room. Not that the cat had a choice…
Yes, those animals do make a difference. I noticed in the various assisted living places and the nursing home that birds are a big favorite, too. Canaries out the wazoo. :)
Some of the Socialist Nations produce some of the best national economies in the world. And they do it by not working? Max, change your friggin koolade! The guys in the white coats will be lookin for you!
And if Max, the over-anxious capitalist, cannot see the potential income from “green” industries in the very near future, then Max is going to lose a lot of his capitalistic future income possibilities! And some of the rest of us eeeeevil libs will be banking dollars hand over fist!
And, say capital gains tax reduction which has only a minimal affect on the vast majority of citizens.
Really? Over 100 million Americans are invested in equities.
It’s one thing for you liberals to be bickering over how much of MY MONEY to steal, but it is quite another to LIE to justify your points.
BTW, anyone else hear Obama this past week? In an interview he has dropped his definition of wealthy all the way down to “over 100,000 dollars”. That can only mean his advisors are now thinking any tax hikes to bring in the revenue he wants, will have to include the middle class too.
” cannot see the potential income from “green” industries in the very near future”
So Chas, you have money to invest? You must be one of the evil rich people!
Wind generators — Somebody has to engineer them. Somebody has to manufacture them. Somebody has to sell the materials to manufacture them. Somebody has to assemble them. Somebody has to transport those giants. Somebody has to market them. Somebody has to sell them.
Wow! LOTS of $$$$ just in wind generators!
Same thing with hydrogen fuel cells. Electric hybrid cars. All of the GREEN industries are going to produce Billions of dollars of income, not to mention tax revenue!
And Max thinks the libs are not working? What a friggin Joke Max has become! Not thinking going on in that CON brain, for sure!
If Max wanted to secure his financial future, he should be out there investing in all kinds of Green Industry — And then Max could sit on his CON a$$ and watch the $$$$ roll in!
LOL LOL LOL
“some of the rest of us eeeeevil libs will be banking dollars hand over fist”
RFLMAO! If you were an investor, you would know how silly you sound. You can only dream about it.
But then again, if you evil libs WERE capable of making dollars hand over fist - you wouldn’t be crying to take more from the rest of us.
AmWay - I dont have the money to invest, but I can see that the possibilities are wide open for such investment, and it will be very profitable for those who CAN invest in the Green industries.
AmWay, how many people do you see now days making a fortune off of buggy whips? LOL
Buggy whips are all manufactured overseas now.
China I believe. The new market for them is
in novelty stores for people into BDSM.
But I am invested heavily in green industries.
XOM being the biggest. Great returns last quarter!
100 mil. are invested in equities, right, but primarily through their 401k’s and thus no benefit from capital gains tax reduction. They’ll pay their gains at the regular income tax rate.
I heard Sen. Reid is proposing raising the margin requirements on oil speculators. Better book thos xom profits.
“American_Way” shares –
“…The new market for [buggy whips] is
in novelty stores for people into BDSM.”
If you say so.
I bow to your obvious personal expertise.
“Somebody has to manufacture them. Somebody has to sell the materials to manufacture them. Somebody has to assemble them. Somebody has to transport those giants. Somebody has to market them. Somebody has to sell them.”
YEah and dont forget Chas, someday… someone…
will have to decommission those towers, tear them down, and clean up after they are gone.
Very few communties got agreements about the END of the windfarms at the begining. If wind becomes unprofitable or unworkable, the local counties and communties will be left to clean up after them.
And even the few communties who GOT those agreements up front cant be sure the companies and their shell game identities wont obscure who pays.
Just like any love affair, it’s all good in the beginning. It’s the end that no one plans for. And the commercial viability of wind is, as yet, unproven over the long term.
Chas - an additional commetn on wind turbines: Who better than our aircraft industry to build them. Aerodynamics, strong lightweight materials - things they know how to do.
Hank,
Thanks for the link to Dr. Emily.
They could even set up a plant in Western Ks., that should appease Neufield (not).
Monday May 12th, 2008.
Still have not been contacted by anyone yet Chas.
Phantom you are correct on the 401K sheltering from capital gain. But not all Americans work for companies with these programs, so not everyone is benefiting. Remember these 401K’s contain energy stock, so any increased taxes on the oil companies, will hurt these investors as well.
But regarding direct equity ownership:
” Equity ownership in America has grown over the past two decades, and now half of all U.S. households and one in three individuals own equities. Nearly 57 million U.S. households own stocks directly or through mutual funds, according to a survey by the Investment Company Institute (ICI) and the Securities Industry Association (SIA).”
ksfarmgrrl, there are some amazing advances being made in wind turbine technology. The old wind mill is basically inefficient. Some of the newer ones, both vertical and horizontal, have much better numbers, operate at lower wind speeds and take up much less space. Just some of the vids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQPQkhDE8eY&feature=related
Problem is getting the financial backing to replace the wind mills, or use newer tech instead. That’s going to take some major backing because of the foothold wind mills already have. Kind of like the hold coal plants held for so long and are now bucking their eventual deaths.
No phantom. They just want to dump their waste out here and use up the water.
Jobs and money belong in eastern kansas, while pollution and dirty industry belong out here.
Just ask anyone in Topeka… Or Ingalls…
Chas
Posted May 12, 2008 at 12:29 pm | Permalink
Some of the Socialist Nations produce some of the best national economies in the world. And they do it by not working? Max, change your friggin koolade! The guys in the white coats will be lookin for you!
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Name one country Chas.
Then tell me how great is that country’s:
Inflation Rate
Unemployment Rate
Interest Rate
Export/Import Ratio
Average Income
Average Tax Rate
Average cost of living
Productivity Rate
Defense Budget as % of GDP
Phantom
Posted May 12, 2008 at 1:02 pm | Permalink
I heard Sen. Reid is proposing raising the margin requirements on oil speculators. Better book thos xom profits.
Watching developments closely Phantom. Anyone invested in energy should be following, as well as anyone interested in our environment.
If government increases the cost of doing business, the tax implications, shareholders will still demand and expect good returns. Easiest cut for XOM would be to cut the billions they spend on exploration (more than profits in North America) and development of new sources of energy.
In the long run, I’m thinking XOM should get out of the PR game trying to look green. Slow exploration and research and watch demand continue to push up the price per gallon.
But just this one company spends billions on research into new energy sources. Go ahead and tax them some more. Consumers will pay at the pump.
Chas
Posted May 12, 2008 at 12:39 pm | Permalink
AmWay - I dont have the money to invest, but I can see that the possibilities are wide open for such investment, and it will be very profitable for those who CAN invest in the Green industries.
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Name one company Chas.
Then tell me how great is their:
Stock Price, Current and 52 week high/low
Dividends/share
P/E Ratio
ROI
Net Income
Revenue
Nathan, Chas Lied about turning you in.
He’s pathological.
And his math skills suck too.
But he is entertaining.
DDBK sure plays a mean pinball!
And all of you prematurely gloating on your new democratic government ending the Bush tax cuts on capital gains -
Take a look at your parents and grandparents portfolio’s (if they will let you).
See an investments subject to capital gains? It likely you will, more seniors own stock than young people.
But at least they have their social security..a..
Dear Steven,
Your welcome!
She is a very gracious lady and has a soft spot in her heart for rescues!
Hank
“Nathan, Chas Lied about turning you in.”
OMG Max! Say it ain’t so! Ch-Chas, a, a liar.
Did you REALLY use the “L” word?
Here I have been passing the hat at work to veterans to collect money for Nathan’s defense fund.
Hank told me - cash only. So now what do I do with all this cash?
Max: Most western democracies have a greater social attitude than the US but are hardly socialist states. Mostly they are European, especially Nordics states, along with New Zealand, Australia, Canada and Japan. They’d be amused if not annoyed with the term “socialalist” describing their governance.They are all republics or kingdoms with a Parliament, not subservient citizens of undemocratic states. Look up the international placements for standards of living, education, health, longevity, etc. I have and you’d be surprised. When I see the words liberal, communist or socialist bandied about, it makes me think some posters can’t tell the difference between Karl Marx and Groucho Marx. Your benchmarks to determine a livestyle or quality of life, are not universally accepted.
Hey Predestined,
I lost a Beardie a few years ago that was a wonderful therapy dog.
We had adopted one of the local nursing homes (or rather, they adopted us!)
We went out regularly and visited the elderly people there. We brought a little happiness to them and they brought a lot of joy to us!
Ok sursum, I’ll bite.
What are your favorite benchmarks to measure the “best economy”?
Yup AmWay. Chas lied.
Several times.
He said he’d no longer read my posts. He did. Several times.
He said he’d no longer reply to my posts. He did.
Several times.
He said he’d report Nathan. He didn’t. He lied.
He said he had a typo bolding the name McCleur in that obiturary. He lied.
If he’d just admit to being human and sometimes being wrong, then we wouldn’t have so much fun with him.
For example, the math game he played yesterday AND today.
I think he believes his own BS.
The Effects of Stroke
Different sides of the brain deal with different areas of human intellectual functioning. Generally speaking, brain damage due to a stroke causes the kinds of problems noted below. However, it is important to note that brain injury in left-handed individuals results in effects that are exactly the opposite of those explained below.
Left Brain Injury (right-sided weakness (hemiplegia) )
Those with left brain injury and a paralyzed right side are more likely to have problems with speech and language. Apart from language problems, these individuals tend to be cautious, hesitant, anxious and disorganized when faced with an unfamiliar problem. Many of those with right hemiplegia need frequent assurance that they are doing okay, with lots of immediate positive feedback. Breaking tasks down into steps and practicing often will aid learning.
Right brain injury (left hemiplegia)
People often assume that if a stroke has not affected language and speech, a stroke survivor is not impaired. This is not true! Left hemiplegia may result in problems with spatial-perceptual tasks - the ability to judge distance, size, position, rate of movement, form and how parts relate to wholes. People with severe spatial-perceptual deficits may have more trouble with self-care than those with equally severe language deficits. They may not be able to read a paper - not because they can’t read, but because they lose their place on the page. They tend to have a behavioural style that is too quick and impulsive, and behave in a way that makes overestimating their abilities easy. They are often unaware of their deficits, and may think themselves capable of tasks they are not-driving for instance, which even with minor spatial-perceptual disabilities can be dangerous.
Depression
Depression resulting from a stroke is one of the most difficult factors for a spouse and family to deal with. A certain amount of crying, though upsetting to the family, may be a natural and normal emotional response to the stroke survivor’s greatly changed circumstances. However, chemical changes caused by stroke may result in deeper depression and apathy, with the survivor appearing passive and detached, a state that will usually improve with time.
Emotional Lability
Often, excessive crying seems to have little relationship to sadness or what is happening around the survivor. This loss of emotional control due to brain injury is called emotional lability. Someone who is emotionally labile may not be sad when crying, happy when laughing, or angry when appearing hostile. If possible, interrupting the emotional behaviour of such a person (by clapping hands or snapping fingers) is usually a good idea, saving them embarrassment and fatigue.
Change in Personality
Changes in personality and emotional response are common after a stroke. The type, size and location of a stroke, as well as the individual’s previous personality all have a bearing on what these changes will be. The stroke survivor may seem a different person, showing feelings of anger, caution or anxiety that are completely out of character. The affected individual may also feel this-and feel less of a person.
Memory Deficits
Almost any brain injury, however slight, may cause memory problems, contributing to language, spatial-perceptual and retention span difficulties. For most stroke survivors, remembering old information (from before the stroke) remains easy, while new learning is difficult.
Generalization
Some stroke survivors are capable of learning new information, but are unable to apply that learning to other similar situations (generalization). For instance, they may make safe transfers to and from a wheelchair while in the hospital, but are unable to once at home. They may become very sensitive to and often fearful of changes in their environment, and will thus benefit from, and be comforted by, an effectively established routine.
Sensory deprivation and over-stimulation
Many recent stroke survivors are overwhelmed by too much stimulation. When visiting, go singly or in small, quiet groups, and speak one at a time.
Conversely, some stroke survivors may have diminished sensations of touch, pressure, sight or pain, causing them to suffer a constant level of sensory deprivation, leading to psychological stress. The quiet of night may compound this-a radio playing softly or a soft light left on may help.
Quality Control
Even minor brain damage affects a memory related area of behaviour called quality control. This refers to how well individuals check and control their own behaviour. A previously fastidious person may fail to bathe or zip his fly, or a formerly polite person may become rude and profane.
Please be polite when posting and remember some have mental and emotional problems as well as the physcial problems associated with the Cap Lock Syndrome. Be kind to one another.
Dear AmWay,
Put the cash in a plain envelope and I’ll tell you where to meet men later.
Say BlogMonitor,
Does a stroke cause TYPING IN ALL CAPS?
“Put the cash in a plain envelope and I’ll tell you where to meet men later.”
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psssssttt…. Hank, dont most folks know republican men meet in airport restrooms?
I can’t make the meet-up, so maybe I will just contribute to the beer fund. Nothing light. Real beer. The kind that adds to greenhouse emmissions.
Chas, SquarePeg–
I’m starting to think that Max is a few fries short of a happy meal.
He asks how much “pies” should cost?
I keep asking him to show me the thriving modern country without progressive taxation.
Maybe we shouldn’t bother to answer his questions until he answers ours.
*****
Regular, as we all know, is a total lost cause. Here’s a guy who’s entire income rests on the largesse of the American taxpayer, and he defends to the death Paris Hilton’s tax break.
There is truly no fixing stupid.
The only response he is worthy of is ridicule.
Correction = not who’s but whose
Never mind BlogEditor. I see you mentioned Cap Lock Syndrome.
That explains a lot.
Sweden is a Socialist State — Norway is a Socialist State — Denmark is a Socialist State –
England is a Socialist State — France is a Socialist State — Germany is a Socialist State — Spain is a Socialist State — Italy is a Socialist State — Greece is a Socialist State –Japan is a Socialist State — Israel is a Socialist State!!
They all hold their own FREE elections — They have their own Parliaments; or Congresses; or Kinessets or whatever they call them in their countries…
The PEOPLE in those countries WORK for a living… And they dont all make the same income either… And when they get old, and they retire, their countries take care of them… They have good education for their people… And they dont have to worry about going bankrupt if they suffer a catastorophic illness…
Now, wherever you are getting your stupid garbage about Socialist countries, is just flat out lying to you…
Sometimes, Max… SOMETIMES… even when it pains me to do so… I just HAVE to answer your Bull Shit…. If for no other reason, than to let others reading this Blog, that not everybody who reads the Eagle is as big of an SOB LIAR as YOU and your fellow Goons!!
Thats right Blog readers… Max and his kind are not big in numbers… just loud of mouth, and repetitive of keyboard… They believe if they tell their LIES often enough, that even THEY might believe them!!
Remember folks… it is the Right Wingers who come from the RED States… :-)
Damn, I left off Canada, and Iceland!! LOL
Let me tell you something, if you have to use two or more different ID’s to post on the same Anonymous board, then there is something wrong with YOU. And that goes for everyone who does that.
If you’re such a weenie that you can’t defend your own posts without having to make some name up to defend you, then there is something wrong with your thinking.
YOU can’t answer the question Capn, or any other Lib.
Chas can’t point to a single Socialist country as he bragged about above, that has a more thriving economy then ours.
You want progressive taxes?
Karl Marx wanted Progressive taxes too!
http://canadiancoalition.com/forum/messages/25779.shtml
About 159 years ago someone named Karl Marx sat down to put his dream to words; his dream of a communist state that was to become a worker’s paradise. Somehow it didn’t work out all that well, but it certainly wasn’t for a lack of effort. Tens of millions of people died in Russia, China and elsewhere to show what an incredibly bad idea Marx had.
It’s ironic to me that the countries who suffered under the rule of Marx’ worker’s paradise have largely rejected so many of the tenants set forth in his Communist Manifesto, while the one country that held communism at bay for over 70 years and eventually destroyed it still embraces many of those ideas.
We’ve gone through this before, but once again (hey, there might be new Nuze readers!) let me tell you of just two of the essential elements of a communist society as set forth in Marx’s work:
1. A progressive graduated income tax.
2. Government education of the children.
Countries across Europe, especially former communist countries, are moving from a progressive income tax to either consumption taxes or a flat tax. Ever heard of the Irish Miracle? And across Europe more and more people are being allowed the freedom to choose where their children shall be educated. They choose the school, the tax money follows. And yes, more and more this is including private schools.
LOL Farm Girl!
I had no idea what you were getting at until I read my post. men=me
Of course I know where to meet men! Any democrat gathering is a great place to meet men and you don’t have to sneak around in restrooms!
I’m currently setting up a 501 for a charity, I may go ahead and start one for my boy’s defence fund!
I’ll be the administer for a small fee!
See, Max, you just proved your already well known ignorance… I havent said ONE WORD about Karl Marx, and his Manifesto… And thats because I am talking about Socialist States… NOT Communist States!! Are you that STUPID that you continue to think they are the same thing?? LOLOL What a JOKE you are Max… And with a name like Grobnik, one would think you would know better!!
Shame on you Max… perpetrating LIES!!
BTW, Max, I believe Japan is doing pretty earned good economically… not to mention Sweden, and England, and Germany, and France… South Africa isnt even doing too bad, since they got rid of that evil stinking Apartheid system!!
Can’t do it, can you Chas?
Name one country Chas.
Then tell me how great is that country’s:
Inflation Rate
Unemployment Rate
Interest Rate
Export/Import Ratio
Average Income
Average Tax Rate
Average cost of living
Productivity Rate
Defense Budget as % of GDP
Max — get out a European History book… European nations have had private education for centuries!!
Max, you call OUR economy good?? Another joke!!
Oh, what Chas “believes” unsupported by any facts, no source documents, we are ALL TO BELIEVE TOO!
BS
Baby-hating sophomore Roderick King, a student senate leader at the University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point, told pro-life display supporters they have no right to express their opinion on the volatile issue of abortion, while leading a gang of vandals in ripping up their authorized pro-life display of white crosses. After a spineless university security guard appeared, Mr. King continued ranting and ripping up crosses, although caught on video.
The spineless Student Government Association declined to take any action to protect academic freedom or the First Amendment.
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Pro-lifers have again found aborted late-term babies, medical records, and biohazard waste illegally dumped in another Michigan abortion mill’s garbage bin. Six dead babies of 16 to 20 weeks gestation were discovered April 12 in a garbage bin outside the Women’s Advisory abortion mill in Livonia, MI, owned by abortionist quack Reginald Sharpe, who has received a warning, which may be more than previous Michigan abortionist quack Alberto Holdari got for dumping babies, medical records, and waste in a garbage bin.
See the YouTube video if you have a strong stomach for viewing mangled feet, legs, skulls, and eyes retrieved from garbage, at video page
youtube.com/watch?v=aIehOHSG1ZI
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46% of all health insurance plans in the USofA cover elective abortions. Check your medical policy. Is part of your monthly medical premium paying for mangling, dismembering, poisoning, and beheading babies that end up in garbage bins or incinerators? Does your employer know how you feel about such coverage?
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Canadian abortionist quack Henry Morgentaler, the one man most responsible for unrestricted, taxpayer-funded, rampant abortions in Canada, appears to have, in order to further his abortion agenda in the past, used threats of blackmail involving the release of records of mistresses and relatives of elected officials who committed abortions. The proof is in his unearthed threatening letter of April 28, 1973 letter to Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau.
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The tiny dead body of a newborn girl, likely born alive and murdered, was found Friday night wrapped in bloody towels and clothes in a dryer in the laundry room of the Victory Home rehab center in San Antonio, TX. Policy prohibits pregnant women from living in the facility, which treats boozers and junkies.
Ya know Max, it doesnt take LINKS to know what is or isnt true… Just look around you, for God’s sake… Everywhere you go, and everything you do is benefited in some way through Tax Dollars, or government subsidies… Even for YOU Max, some tax payer more wealthy than you — helps pay for the roads you drive on… for the rail transportation to deliver your goods and products, and food… for the medical knowledge of your family doctor… for Everything, EXCEPT for the Church you attend!! Hallelujah for that small favor!!
Max, you cant make your morning coffee without tax dollars at work… You cant wash your clothes without tax dollars at work… And Max, MANY of those tax dollars come from people a LOT wealthier then YOU will ever be…
But, MAX, the Stupid, can only see those things that HIS tax dollars support for those who are poorer than Max… Do you think, maybe, Max, that somebody wealthier than YOU is bitching about all the tax dollars YOU are using, and taking from HIS pocket, they way you bitch about those less fortunate than you??
I would bet the answer is: YES!!
Before you go flaming much more, maybe you better think about the benefits YOU get from tax dollars from the wealthy-er than YOU crowd!! :-)
“Shame on you Max… perpetrating LIES!!”
Hey Chas, in your above posts, were those intentional CAPS, or unintentional.
Were you using the CAP LOCK feature to emphasize a point, or was it scattered brain waves?
Not trying to be mean, but one time you unintentionally CAP LOCKED someone’s personal information, I believe, but said that was UNintentional.
Thanx
Oh, Max, if its good enough for YOU to spout off all day without any facts… Well, I guess its good enough for ME to spout off occasionally about what ANYbody who can READ, or HEAR, or SEE already knows, without the need for some damn link….
Max LIES >>>>
“He said he had a typo bolding the name McCleur in that obiturary. He lied.”
Max, I didnt BOLD anything… The name that ended up in bold was NOT McCleur — it was McClure… And it was not related to the blog’s own James McCluer… Everybody knows that already… Why dont you stick it where the sun dont shine, and forget about your constant LIE about the subject!! It is WAY past outdated!! LOL like YOU Max… LOL
Emphasis AmWay I used one hand to make sure.
AmWay spins >>>>
“Not trying to be mean, but one time you unintentionally CAP LOCKED someone’s personal information, I believe, but said that was UNintentional.”
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I have NEVER posted anybody’s personal information on this Blog… NEVER This is not the place for posting personal information, as James will be most happy to tell you!
So, why dont YOU put it where the sun dont shine along with Max?? eh??
BTW, Amway — A published Obit. is not personal information. It is published in a quite public newspaper. Get it??
Hey Max,
Have you noticed the increased attention a flat tax is getting in Europe? Even a couple of those socialist countries Chas mentioned are thinking about converting to a flat tax - everyone pays the same rate.
Very popular in eastern Europe, but France, Germany, and England are considering it.
No longer the leader in political change, I’m sure the USA will follow the flat tax movement and European lead eventually.
Chas, if the sales tax rises from 5% to 6%, what is the percentage tax increase?
HLP posted May 12, 2008 at 7:27 am
“… the Boston Herald is not one of the great bastions of conservative thought.”
The Boston Herald is conservative.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Herald
“… the Herald is noted for… its conservative editorial page and news columnists.”
And their “opinion editorial” is wrong.
But Hank Price seems to prefer a vague, inaccurate right-wing op-ed over peer-reviewed science.
http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/special/polar%5Fbears/
“Newly-released USGS information from 9 recent studies presents relationships of polar bears to present and future sea ice environments.”
http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/special/polar_bears/docs/executive_summary.pdf
“The overall conclusion of the USGS research effort is:
Projected changes in future sea ice conditions, if realized, will result in loss of approximately 2/3 of the world’s current polar bear population by the mid 21st century.
Because the observed trajectory of Arctic sea ice decline appears to be underestimated by currently available models, this assessment of future polar bear status may be conservative.”
‘Biologists Honored for Rapid-Response Investigations of the Impacts of Future Sea-Ice Change on Polar Bears’
http://soundwaves.usgs.gov/2008/01/awards.html
“BTW, Amway — A published Obit. is not personal information. It is published in a quite public newspaper. Get it??”
If you say so Chas. Sorry but I swore I saw a post by you about the CAPS being a result of your stroke, and not intentional.
FYI
Unemployment rate for the “socialist” countries listed above:
Sweden 6.10
Norway 2.10
Denmark 1.90
England 5.30
France 7.50
Germany 8.40
Spain 8.30
Italy 6.10
Greece 8.30
Japan 3.80
European Union (collectiely 7.10)
US (latest) 5.30
1% Max — just 1% — PERCENT MAX
Dear Cosmos,
The earth is currently cooling down. Wrap you mind around it!
The polar bears will do just fine.
And while many aspects of some of the countries listed above are socialized, I am not sure they would consider themselves socialist. Perhaps. Perhaps not
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
Wrong Chas.
Going from a 5% tax to a 6% tax is a 20% increase in the tax.
AmWay, I did know many European countries are going to a flat tax, usually a consumption tax.
Just waiting for Chas to figure that out. Course, hard to say how he defined “socialist” country!
For such a hard working person?
“Max” and others sure seem to have plenty of screen time.
If you earn 10,000/yr and pay 5% tax, then you pay $500 in taxes.
If you earn 10,000/yr and the tax goes up from 5% to 6%, then your tax is now $600.
That is a $100 increase from your previous tax of $500 OR
wait for it…
get out your bean counter…
A 20% increase in your taxes!
FYI
Inflation rate for the “socialist” countries listed above:
Sweden 2.0
Norway 0.4
Denmark 1.50
England 2.4
France 1.50
Germany 2.0
Spain 2.4
Italy 1.70
Greece 2.6
Japan 0
Isreal 0.4
European Union (collectiely 1.8)
US (latest) 2.7
Flat tax aint gonna happen.
Sorry Neal Boortz and other rich people.
You have more than your fair share of America. It is incumbent upon you to pay for it. If that is not agreeable with you? Move.
So Chas, you admit you are a Socialist?
Dear Hank Price,
The current “cooling” is just a short-term natural fluctuation.
Man-made global warming is still occurring.
Are you smart enough to wrap your mind around the graphs here?
‘Uncertainty, noise and the art of model-data comparison’
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/01/uncertainty-noise-and-the-art-of-model-data-comparison
So BlueJay,
Person A and Person B each go to the Government Benefit store and buy a pie.
Person A pays $35.30 for the pie.
Person B pays $10.00 for the very same pie.
How much more should Person A pay for his pie? How much less should Person B pay for his pie?
(Person A is married with an income of $125,000.
They pay $19,463 in taxes or 15.6% of their income in taxes.
Person B is married with an income of $60,000. They pay $5,513 in taxes or 9.2% of their income in taxes.)
Dear Cosmos,
Congradulations! You admit the earth is currently colling down!
So tell me my friend, just how does this current cooling trend fit in with the IPCC computer model predictions?
LOL
Hank, the NOISE applies just to cooling.
None of the heating can be considered to be NOISE.
(That wouldn’t fit the model.)
“The debate is over.”
Al Gore.
DON’T DARE QUESTION AL GORE!!!
THE DEBATE IS OVER!!!
SHUT-UP ABOUT IT ALREADY!!!
Parkay…hoping for more dumpster babies every day since 1973.
Can’t get enough dead babies Pmom?
Since the Goracle and others seem to believe in carbon offsets here’s where you can do your part for nothing!
FreeCarbonOffsets.com
I’ve got my certificate framed and I really feel good about myself!
Looks like our inflation rate is higher thaan any of the Countries I listed, Max… And, oh, Max, you DID ask for a percentage increase, and not a Dollar amount… Please try to keep up with your own fiasco…
But, sorry Max, anybody can plainly see that an increase from 5% to 6% is a 1% increase… Now, go sit on it and spin, spin, spin!!! No wonder you are so friggin dizzy all the time!!
I don’t want unwanted babies to be born period.
That’s why I support sex education, birth control access and safe, legal and rare abortions.
Now ask Parkay why he wants more unwanted babies.
Ask him why he’s dumpster diving to find body parts…wasn’t it him that was trying to BUY baby parts? Is that so that he can throw them in a dumpster and profess to find them?
Trust me when I say this..it wouldn’t be beyond him.
On income of $10,000/year, If my taxes increases from 5% to 6% — and of 5% and 6% are tax percentages of my INCOME… Then the percentage of my Income that is increased by the tax increase is 1% (or, $100)
$100 = 1% increase of my income for the tax increase… The Tax percentage is on the INCOME Max… NOT on the Tax!! C’mon, idiot, use the brain God gave you!!
Let’s see - the Flat Tax conservatives want to effectively raise taxes for the poor, the working poor and the middle class while simultaneously giving massive tax cuts for the upper class and rich people.
That sounds like a good recipe for an economic policy.
Or a class warfare revolution.
Let’s say we do away with Income Tax, and go to a consumption tax.
Max has an income of $100,000 for the year. Max has consumption taxes, lets say, of 10% on goods and services(instead of an income tax table) —
Let’s say Max spends ohhh, $40,000 on goods and services, and spends $4,000 on taxes…
Lets say Max’s not so hard working cousin, Jax, only makes $40,000… And just for grins, let’s say Jax’s spending on goods and services is also 40% ($1,600)
On the consumption tax, Jax would only pay in $160 in taxes…
Max is still going to pay more taxes than his lazier cousin, Jax. And Max will still be arm flailing and bitching cause he wont think its fair!
That sound about right, Max??