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	<title>Comments on: McCainâ€™s preacher problems</title>
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		<title>By: colonoscopy risks</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/mccain%e2%80%99s-preacher-problems/#comment-370969</link>
		<dc:creator>colonoscopy risks</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;colonoscopy risks...&lt;/strong&gt;

For very small rigid borescopes, the gradient index lens relays are better. They are also used in manufacturing of machined or cast...</description>
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<p>For very small rigid borescopes, the gradient index lens relays are better. They are also used in manufacturing of machined or cast&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mary_Caruso</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/mccain%e2%80%99s-preacher-problems/#comment-357626</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary_Caruso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 01:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better yet, if you put a dress and a bonnet on him and gave him a hachet, he&#039;d look just like Carrie A Nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better yet, if you put a dress and a bonnet on him and gave him a hachet, he&#8217;d look just like Carrie A Nation.</p>
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		<title>By: lucee</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/mccain%e2%80%99s-preacher-problems/#comment-356815</link>
		<dc:creator>lucee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 23:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all this talk about the religious right endorsing McCain, what did the Democrats expect?  

Of course the Religious Right will endorse McCain, because there is no other alternative.  And the way McCain flip-flops and bends over to placate any and all groups; who knows, the Religious Right might just end up with some of the things they want from McCain.

The bigger question is who will McCain pick for his VP.  That choice will tell you alot about the future of the GOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all this talk about the religious right endorsing McCain, what did the Democrats expect?  </p>
<p>Of course the Religious Right will endorse McCain, because there is no other alternative.  And the way McCain flip-flops and bends over to placate any and all groups; who knows, the Religious Right might just end up with some of the things they want from McCain.</p>
<p>The bigger question is who will McCain pick for his VP.  That choice will tell you alot about the future of the GOP.</p>
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		<title>By: bth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/mccain%e2%80%99s-preacher-problems/#comment-356789</link>
		<dc:creator>bth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 22:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok - that guy at Phillips overstated his view of our reserves - and/or underestimated our insatiable appetite.  We do, however, have enough nuclear material ON HAND to fuel reactors for at least a couple of centuries.  We don&#039;t even have to dig it out of the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok &#8211; that guy at Phillips overstated his view of our reserves &#8211; and/or underestimated our insatiable appetite.  We do, however, have enough nuclear material ON HAND to fuel reactors for at least a couple of centuries.  We don&#8217;t even have to dig it out of the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: okobserver</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/mccain%e2%80%99s-preacher-problems/#comment-356777</link>
		<dc:creator>okobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 22:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary I don&#039;t believe I have ever seen a fat woman&#039;s ass uncovered as his face is so you got me on that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary I don&#8217;t believe I have ever seen a fat woman&#8217;s ass uncovered as his face is so you got me on that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary_Caruso</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/mccain%e2%80%99s-preacher-problems/#comment-356772</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary_Caruso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 21:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have any of you ever noticed that John Hagee&#039;s face looks like some fat woman&#039;s ass?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have any of you ever noticed that John Hagee&#8217;s face looks like some fat woman&#8217;s ass?</p>
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		<title>By: Maggotpunk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/mccain%e2%80%99s-preacher-problems/#comment-356710</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggotpunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 19:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another Christian group has come out and endorsed McCain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5N_MsfBgaM

I don&#039;t know why the guy had marbles in his mouth when he talked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Christian group has come out and endorsed McCain.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5N_MsfBgaM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5N_MsfBgaM</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why the guy had marbles in his mouth when he talked.</p>
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		<title>By: lucee</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/mccain%e2%80%99s-preacher-problems/#comment-356702</link>
		<dc:creator>lucee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 19:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okobserver - and it does not help to have the entire Bush family being cozy friends with the Saudis, does it?

BTW, doesn&#039;t Bob Dole also lobby for some Saudis?  Is it to keep the US dependent on the Middle East oil?

I think it is both Democrats and Republicans fault.  I also think it is the greed of big oil willing to sell America&#039;s soul for more profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okobserver &#8211; and it does not help to have the entire Bush family being cozy friends with the Saudis, does it?</p>
<p>BTW, doesn&#8217;t Bob Dole also lobby for some Saudis?  Is it to keep the US dependent on the Middle East oil?</p>
<p>I think it is both Democrats and Republicans fault.  I also think it is the greed of big oil willing to sell America&#8217;s soul for more profit.</p>
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		<title>By: okobserver</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/mccain%e2%80%99s-preacher-problems/#comment-356685</link>
		<dc:creator>okobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 18:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bth if you have indeed worked in the oil industry then you know that we have a huge compacity of unexplored oil in the US and it pocessions. The head geologists at Phillips in Bartlesville years ago told me we had enough undrilled oil in the 49 continental states and the off shore compacity to last hundreds of years. We made the mistake of buying into the OPEC story that they could meet all of our needs cheaper and we would always have plenty of fuel. When oil went below $28 a barrel in OK it was no longer economically feasable to drill. The drillers lost money, the refiners lost money and if you look at the history of oil companies they lost money. 

Enter OPEC with their magic pill. Hook the US on their oil and then after enough years pull the plug. That glug you hear is our economy going down the drain. And still the congress continues the dog and pony show with the oil execs.

Democrats and republicans alike need to wake up before we have foreigners running our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bth if you have indeed worked in the oil industry then you know that we have a huge compacity of unexplored oil in the US and it pocessions. The head geologists at Phillips in Bartlesville years ago told me we had enough undrilled oil in the 49 continental states and the off shore compacity to last hundreds of years. We made the mistake of buying into the OPEC story that they could meet all of our needs cheaper and we would always have plenty of fuel. When oil went below $28 a barrel in OK it was no longer economically feasable to drill. The drillers lost money, the refiners lost money and if you look at the history of oil companies they lost money. </p>
<p>Enter OPEC with their magic pill. Hook the US on their oil and then after enough years pull the plug. That glug you hear is our economy going down the drain. And still the congress continues the dog and pony show with the oil execs.</p>
<p>Democrats and republicans alike need to wake up before we have foreigners running our country.</p>
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		<title>By: bth</title>
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		<dc:creator>bth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 18:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having worked in the oil industry I agree that refinery capacity is NOT the issue.  I was there when they shuttered refineries due to (a) overcapacity and (b) increased throughput at other refineries due to &#039;debottlenecking&#039;.  We easily have sufficient refining capacity - the problem lies with the limited resource of crude.

If you look carefully at the pronouncements of the industry you will see that they say the same thing - it is not refining where the problem lies.

As for emptying our own remaining reserves that will simply hasten the BIG crash when we no longer have liquid fuels but also no longer have chemical feedstocks.  George Bush has mouthed the words that we need to end our addiction to oil.  Now we need to replace those empty words with action.

writerdon - &quot;Franklin, it can not be both ways of faulting Obama for attending the same Christian church for twenty years. And still question his religious alliance as to whether he is Moslem or Christian.&quot;  You should know by now that Paul CAN have it both ways - he has never let the truth get in the way of his talking points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked in the oil industry I agree that refinery capacity is NOT the issue.  I was there when they shuttered refineries due to (a) overcapacity and (b) increased throughput at other refineries due to &#8216;debottlenecking&#8217;.  We easily have sufficient refining capacity &#8211; the problem lies with the limited resource of crude.</p>
<p>If you look carefully at the pronouncements of the industry you will see that they say the same thing &#8211; it is not refining where the problem lies.</p>
<p>As for emptying our own remaining reserves that will simply hasten the BIG crash when we no longer have liquid fuels but also no longer have chemical feedstocks.  George Bush has mouthed the words that we need to end our addiction to oil.  Now we need to replace those empty words with action.</p>
<p>writerdon &#8211; &#8220;Franklin, it can not be both ways of faulting Obama for attending the same Christian church for twenty years. And still question his religious alliance as to whether he is Moslem or Christian.&#8221;  You should know by now that Paul CAN have it both ways &#8211; he has never let the truth get in the way of his talking points.</p>
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		<title>By: CelticKin</title>
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		<dc:creator>CelticKin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 13:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>writerdog
Posted May 25, 2008 at 6:01 am &#124; Permalink
Celtickin, there is little if anything left of the refinery in Augusta they would have to build a new refinery here. Toward the end of the operations in Augusta the fire department was called to there at least one every couple of months. Poor maintenance and lack of interest by the company lead to that. But you are right once the refinery closed down Augusta hurt badly. Now it is mainly a bedroom community of Wichita and even that has been threatened by the growth of Andover.

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Big oil started screwing America and Americans twenty years ago by reducing production of domestic oil. They harmed entire communities by putting workers at every level on unemployment. That the Augusta refinery has been allowed to fall into ruin is just another indicator that other than bleeding the American people dry big oil has no investment in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>writerdog<br />
Posted May 25, 2008 at 6:01 am | Permalink<br />
Celtickin, there is little if anything left of the refinery in Augusta they would have to build a new refinery here. Toward the end of the operations in Augusta the fire department was called to there at least one every couple of months. Poor maintenance and lack of interest by the company lead to that. But you are right once the refinery closed down Augusta hurt badly. Now it is mainly a bedroom community of Wichita and even that has been threatened by the growth of Andover.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Big oil started screwing America and Americans twenty years ago by reducing production of domestic oil. They harmed entire communities by putting workers at every level on unemployment. That the Augusta refinery has been allowed to fall into ruin is just another indicator that other than bleeding the American people dry big oil has no investment in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: writerdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>writerdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 11:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Franklin, it can not be both ways of faulting Obama for attending the same Christian church for twenty years. And still question his religious alliance as to whether he is Moslem or Christian.  The very fact he attended a Christian church for that long is a sure sign he is not a Moslem. It answers any question as to that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Franklin, it can not be both ways of faulting Obama for attending the same Christian church for twenty years. And still question his religious alliance as to whether he is Moslem or Christian.  The very fact he attended a Christian church for that long is a sure sign he is not a Moslem. It answers any question as to that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: writerdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>writerdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 11:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Celtickin, there is little if anything left of the refinery in Augusta they would have to build a new refinery here. Toward the end of the operations in Augusta the fire department was called to there at least one every couple of months. Poor maintenance and lack of interest by the company lead to that. But you are right once the refinery closed down Augusta hurt badly. Now it is mainly a bedroom community of Wichita and even that has been threatened by the growth of Andover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Celtickin, there is little if anything left of the refinery in Augusta they would have to build a new refinery here. Toward the end of the operations in Augusta the fire department was called to there at least one every couple of months. Poor maintenance and lack of interest by the company lead to that. But you are right once the refinery closed down Augusta hurt badly. Now it is mainly a bedroom community of Wichita and even that has been threatened by the growth of Andover.</p>
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		<title>By: Pedant</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/mccain%e2%80%99s-preacher-problems/#comment-356343</link>
		<dc:creator>Pedant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 02:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pedant, not Pendant, ya notch-obvlious pissant.

It&#039;s all right, I love ya anywayz. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pedant, not Pendant, ya notch-obvlious pissant.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all right, I love ya anywayz. :D</p>
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		<title>By: CelticKin</title>
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		<dc:creator>CelticKin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 01:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Pendant.

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PS Here’s to the “memorial” part of Memorial Day. Thanks, yall men and women of the armed forces. ALL of youse: thank you.

Amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Pendant.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>PS Here’s to the “memorial” part of Memorial Day. Thanks, yall men and women of the armed forces. ALL of youse: thank you.</p>
<p>Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: Pedant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pedant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 01:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fwiw, my new favorite poster here is CelticKin.  

Way to go, bro.  Jesus, if only a quarter of us here could write so thoughtfully, this place would NOT be the vermin infested hellhole people like me have so obviously made it.  Thank you for your thoughtfulness as expressed here. :D

Also, here&#039;s a shout out to filmfan.  And others, too (my memory for new names is sinfully crappy, and I sincerely regret that in me).  

Steve, ya think a rethink of yer sorely observed absence her is in order now?  I&#039;m thinking it should, bro. :D

PS  Here&#039;s to the &quot;memorial&quot; part of Memorial Day.  Thanks, yall men and women of the armed forces.  ALL of youse: thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fwiw, my new favorite poster here is CelticKin.  </p>
<p>Way to go, bro.  Jesus, if only a quarter of us here could write so thoughtfully, this place would NOT be the vermin infested hellhole people like me have so obviously made it.  Thank you for your thoughtfulness as expressed here. :D</p>
<p>Also, here&#8217;s a shout out to filmfan.  And others, too (my memory for new names is sinfully crappy, and I sincerely regret that in me).  </p>
<p>Steve, ya think a rethink of yer sorely observed absence her is in order now?  I&#8217;m thinking it should, bro. :D</p>
<p>PS  Here&#8217;s to the &#8220;memorial&#8221; part of Memorial Day.  Thanks, yall men and women of the armed forces.  ALL of youse: thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos_originally</title>
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		<dc:creator>cosmos_originally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 01:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Franklin posted May 24, 2008 at 8:04 pm

&quot;A few years back, Bush even made the proposal that refineries be built on closed military bases.&quot;

econ101, are you really so dumb that you cannot understand that companies do &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; want to build very &lt;b&gt;expensive&lt;/b&gt; new refineries -- and have excess capacity that &lt;b&gt;lowers&lt;/b&gt; their profits&lt;/b&gt;?

Well duuhhh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Franklin posted May 24, 2008 at 8:04 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;A few years back, Bush even made the proposal that refineries be built on closed military bases.&#8221;</p>
<p>econ101, are you really so dumb that you cannot understand that companies do <b>not</b> want to build very <b>expensive</b> new refineries &#8212; and have excess capacity that <b>lowers</b> their profits?</p>
<p>Well duuhhh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 01:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Refineries is a non issue.

    Has anyone ever experienced a gas station running out of gas recently? Exactly.

    In fact, I should think that the oil companies themselves in alliance with the futures traders would likely OPPOSE any increase in refining capacity.

    This is why drilling for the meager supply of oil in the US is not relevant or helpful. The refineries are running at capacity now. More oil would just sit in storage tanks waiting to be refined.

    But let&#039;s get back to those gas stations that are never out of gas.

      The supply of gasoline remains pretty much constant. Otherwise, stations would at least occasionally run out of the stuff.

     We are being had. There is no shortage of gasoline. There are just greedy futures traders using every fart and sneeze in the world to jack the price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Refineries is a non issue.</p>
<p>    Has anyone ever experienced a gas station running out of gas recently? Exactly.</p>
<p>    In fact, I should think that the oil companies themselves in alliance with the futures traders would likely OPPOSE any increase in refining capacity.</p>
<p>    This is why drilling for the meager supply of oil in the US is not relevant or helpful. The refineries are running at capacity now. More oil would just sit in storage tanks waiting to be refined.</p>
<p>    But let&#8217;s get back to those gas stations that are never out of gas.</p>
<p>      The supply of gasoline remains pretty much constant. Otherwise, stations would at least occasionally run out of the stuff.</p>
<p>     We are being had. There is no shortage of gasoline. There are just greedy futures traders using every fart and sneeze in the world to jack the price.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/mccain%e2%80%99s-preacher-problems/#comment-356311</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 01:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CelticKin writes:

&quot;Making the issue political to the point of having Americans at one another’s throats gave a handful of the privileged huge opportunities to capitalize on our differences and got us to act against our own interests.&quot;

Celtic,  that  patern,  indeed,  is one of  the  foundational  building blocks of  Facism... History is only too clear on that!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CelticKin writes:</p>
<p>&#8220;Making the issue political to the point of having Americans at one another’s throats gave a handful of the privileged huge opportunities to capitalize on our differences and got us to act against our own interests.&#8221;</p>
<p>Celtic,  that  patern,  indeed,  is one of  the  foundational  building blocks of  Facism&#8230; History is only too clear on that!!</p>
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		<title>By: CelticKin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/mccain%e2%80%99s-preacher-problems/#comment-356310</link>
		<dc:creator>CelticKin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 01:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the oil companies could fix some of their refining issues by reopening the refinery in Augusta and the one that, as far as I know, is closed in El Dorado. They&#039;ve been sitting idle for - what? - twenty-five years. Can you imagine what a boost that would be to Augusta and southcentral Kansas? I just think this administration and big oil are more interested in their own profits than they are in the well-being of the American people. That&#039;s my conclusion. Others???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the oil companies could fix some of their refining issues by reopening the refinery in Augusta and the one that, as far as I know, is closed in El Dorado. They&#8217;ve been sitting idle for &#8211; what? &#8211; twenty-five years. Can you imagine what a boost that would be to Augusta and southcentral Kansas? I just think this administration and big oil are more interested in their own profits than they are in the well-being of the American people. That&#8217;s my conclusion. Others???</p>
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		<title>By: CelticKin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/mccain%e2%80%99s-preacher-problems/#comment-356307</link>
		<dc:creator>CelticKin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 01:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Franklin back in the 1980&#039;s when the oil companies were closing refineries and putting oilfield workers in places like Augusta, KS and El Dorado, KS out of work they made it really clear that it was worth it to them to put American&#039;s out of work to get the high profits off imported foreign oil. They also told us that they wouldn&#039;t go back to producing oil in America again until they could make the same profits on it as they make on imported oil. I watched oil well after oil well being capped in America. I saw my friends be put out of work. I know Augusta&#039;s economy has never recovered from it and I suspect El Dorado&#039;s hasn&#039;t either. As recently as five years ago the numbers came out that we don&#039;t need to drill any more oil wells, we just need to reopen the ones that got capped. So, big oil sits back claiming the shortage is because &quot;Democrats&quot; won&#039;t allow new drilling. It&#039;s not required. Big oil just won&#039;t reopen old wells unless they can secure high profits. And NOW they won&#039;t reopen old wells because they are making horrendously high profits on nothing but speculation. 

You know, oil speculators have set the goal of $8 per gallon of gas over the next ten years. Do you know what that&#039;s going to mean to young Ameicans just starting out in their early twenties ten years from now? You think real wages are going to keep up with the kind of inflation that&#039;s going to cause - no way.

70% of oil lobby money goes into Republican congressmen&#039;s pocket: 70%. The US Senate isn&#039;t getting work done passing bills those guys don&#039;t want passed because Mitch McConnell is fillibustering everything. Democrats aren&#039;t making an issue of it, because Republicans are ruining their own prospects for regaining the majority or even keeping a close minority in the Senate. 

When 47% of your countrymen TRIED and TRIED to tell you that the intensity of your committment to your &quot;values&quot; was being taken advantage of by the privileged and their access to power in government you called us baby killers - AS IF that was addressing the issues.

You want to tell me this country is going great, everything&#039;s great; you go right ahead. But this country isn&#039;t going great. The religious right didn&#039;t get any  big bills ending abortion or stopping gays from existing. You can&#039;t teach intelligent design in schools. You didn&#039;t get your agenda met and you weren&#039;t ever going to because the people with the power were just using you. 

Now, you have an opportunity: quit calling people who aren&#039;t baby killers, baby killers. It doesn&#039;t seem hard. When someone says something you don&#039;t agree with = don&#039;t call them baby killers. Also, you might want to refrain from calling them Moslems when they&#039;re really Episcopalians. That&#039;s just silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Franklin back in the 1980&#8217;s when the oil companies were closing refineries and putting oilfield workers in places like Augusta, KS and El Dorado, KS out of work they made it really clear that it was worth it to them to put American&#8217;s out of work to get the high profits off imported foreign oil. They also told us that they wouldn&#8217;t go back to producing oil in America again until they could make the same profits on it as they make on imported oil. I watched oil well after oil well being capped in America. I saw my friends be put out of work. I know Augusta&#8217;s economy has never recovered from it and I suspect El Dorado&#8217;s hasn&#8217;t either. As recently as five years ago the numbers came out that we don&#8217;t need to drill any more oil wells, we just need to reopen the ones that got capped. So, big oil sits back claiming the shortage is because &#8220;Democrats&#8221; won&#8217;t allow new drilling. It&#8217;s not required. Big oil just won&#8217;t reopen old wells unless they can secure high profits. And NOW they won&#8217;t reopen old wells because they are making horrendously high profits on nothing but speculation. </p>
<p>You know, oil speculators have set the goal of $8 per gallon of gas over the next ten years. Do you know what that&#8217;s going to mean to young Ameicans just starting out in their early twenties ten years from now? You think real wages are going to keep up with the kind of inflation that&#8217;s going to cause &#8211; no way.</p>
<p>70% of oil lobby money goes into Republican congressmen&#8217;s pocket: 70%. The US Senate isn&#8217;t getting work done passing bills those guys don&#8217;t want passed because Mitch McConnell is fillibustering everything. Democrats aren&#8217;t making an issue of it, because Republicans are ruining their own prospects for regaining the majority or even keeping a close minority in the Senate. </p>
<p>When 47% of your countrymen TRIED and TRIED to tell you that the intensity of your committment to your &#8220;values&#8221; was being taken advantage of by the privileged and their access to power in government you called us baby killers &#8211; AS IF that was addressing the issues.</p>
<p>You want to tell me this country is going great, everything&#8217;s great; you go right ahead. But this country isn&#8217;t going great. The religious right didn&#8217;t get any  big bills ending abortion or stopping gays from existing. You can&#8217;t teach intelligent design in schools. You didn&#8217;t get your agenda met and you weren&#8217;t ever going to because the people with the power were just using you. </p>
<p>Now, you have an opportunity: quit calling people who aren&#8217;t baby killers, baby killers. It doesn&#8217;t seem hard. When someone says something you don&#8217;t agree with = don&#8217;t call them baby killers. Also, you might want to refrain from calling them Moslems when they&#8217;re really Episcopalians. That&#8217;s just silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/mccain%e2%80%99s-preacher-problems/#comment-356304</link>
		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 01:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WS
A few years back, Bush even made the proposal that refineries be built on closed military bases.</description>
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A few years back, Bush even made the proposal that refineries be built on closed military bases.</p>
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		<title>By: WSClark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/mccain%e2%80%99s-preacher-problems/#comment-356302</link>
		<dc:creator>WSClark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 00:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Still, I give Presidents very little credit or blame for economic issues.&quot;

But the Republics are happy to blame the recession of 2001 on Clinton.

&quot;Bush wants to build more refineries.&quot;

Quote when Bush made that statement.

&quot;Bush wants to drill for more oil.&quot;

So why did he acquiesce to Jeb&#039;s request that the Feds not grants a permit to drill off the Gulf coast of Florida?

&quot;Democrats do NOT want to drill for more oil.&quot;

Bullshit.

&quot;If Bush had his way, on the PRODUCTION side of the balance sheet, gasoline would be: CHEAPER!&quot;

More bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Still, I give Presidents very little credit or blame for economic issues.&#8221;</p>
<p>But the Republics are happy to blame the recession of 2001 on Clinton.</p>
<p>&#8220;Bush wants to build more refineries.&#8221;</p>
<p>Quote when Bush made that statement.</p>
<p>&#8220;Bush wants to drill for more oil.&#8221;</p>
<p>So why did he acquiesce to Jeb&#8217;s request that the Feds not grants a permit to drill off the Gulf coast of Florida?</p>
<p>&#8220;Democrats do NOT want to drill for more oil.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bullshit.</p>
<p>&#8220;If Bush had his way, on the PRODUCTION side of the balance sheet, gasoline would be: CHEAPER!&#8221;</p>
<p>More bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: CelticKin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/mccain%e2%80%99s-preacher-problems/#comment-356300</link>
		<dc:creator>CelticKin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 00:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t credit me with ever saying Barack Obama was Muslim. I never did. That wasn&#039;t the issue I brought up. I said:

&quot;Explain to me how you suck out of your thumb the conclusion that one convert is better than another.&quot;

I never, ever said that Obama was a Muslim. My question was how does one person get to chose the goodness of another person&#039;s conversion experience. I&#039;ve gathered from remarks that Obama has made that he &quot;became&quot; a Christian, that he came into life in the Christian faith. I never said he converted from Islam to do it.  Maybe he converted from not having an especially well defined religious faith of any particular sort? I dunno, but he does say he&#039;s a Christian. He does say he has a life in the Church.

It has been INSISTED that Obama is Muslim and therefore he;s not a real Christian and not a real American. I&#039;m saying the head of the Liberty School of Theology REALLY is a Muslim who converted to the Christian faith. Doesn&#039;t the same judgement hold true for him that he&#039;s not a real Christian and not a real American?

&#039;Cause, frankly, that just sounds like more religious right double talk: Well, if he&#039;s OUR convert he&#039;s OK. And if he&#039;s YOUR convert he&#039;s not. 

Not only that. But, I believe the point I made was that people who are shooting off their mouths about Obama and his faith had one of their own sitting right in one of their own schools of theology and they didn&#039;t even know it. hadn&#039;t bothered to know it. And didn&#039;t expect, once again, to be caught in their ignorance about it. You want to have credibility? Do your homework and find out the facts before you go shooting off you mouth in judging other peoples&#039; faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t credit me with ever saying Barack Obama was Muslim. I never did. That wasn&#8217;t the issue I brought up. I said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Explain to me how you suck out of your thumb the conclusion that one convert is better than another.&#8221;</p>
<p>I never, ever said that Obama was a Muslim. My question was how does one person get to chose the goodness of another person&#8217;s conversion experience. I&#8217;ve gathered from remarks that Obama has made that he &#8220;became&#8221; a Christian, that he came into life in the Christian faith. I never said he converted from Islam to do it.  Maybe he converted from not having an especially well defined religious faith of any particular sort? I dunno, but he does say he&#8217;s a Christian. He does say he has a life in the Church.</p>
<p>It has been INSISTED that Obama is Muslim and therefore he;s not a real Christian and not a real American. I&#8217;m saying the head of the Liberty School of Theology REALLY is a Muslim who converted to the Christian faith. Doesn&#8217;t the same judgement hold true for him that he&#8217;s not a real Christian and not a real American?</p>
<p>&#8216;Cause, frankly, that just sounds like more religious right double talk: Well, if he&#8217;s OUR convert he&#8217;s OK. And if he&#8217;s YOUR convert he&#8217;s not. </p>
<p>Not only that. But, I believe the point I made was that people who are shooting off their mouths about Obama and his faith had one of their own sitting right in one of their own schools of theology and they didn&#8217;t even know it. hadn&#8217;t bothered to know it. And didn&#8217;t expect, once again, to be caught in their ignorance about it. You want to have credibility? Do your homework and find out the facts before you go shooting off you mouth in judging other peoples&#8217; faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/mccain%e2%80%99s-preacher-problems/#comment-356299</link>
		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 00:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Celtic

Just what, exactly, has George W. Bush done to increase the price of gasoline?

Well, the economy does have an effect on consumption, and 6 of Bush&#039;s 8 years in office saw an economic recovery, and then a boom.

Still, I give Presidents very little credit or blame for economic issues.

Even if you are in the naive school of thought that thinks Presidents, some how, magically &quot;control&quot; the economy, that is only ONE thing, in a mix of several variables, where the price of gasoline is concerned.

On the other issues?

Bush wants to build more refineries.

Democrats do NOT want to build more refineries.

Bush wants to drill for more oil.

Democrats do NOT want to drill for more oil.

If Bush had his way, on the PRODUCTION side of the balance sheet, gasoline would be: CHEAPER!

Instead, Democrats had THEIR way, and gasoline is: MORE EXPENSIVE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Celtic</p>
<p>Just what, exactly, has George W. Bush done to increase the price of gasoline?</p>
<p>Well, the economy does have an effect on consumption, and 6 of Bush&#8217;s 8 years in office saw an economic recovery, and then a boom.</p>
<p>Still, I give Presidents very little credit or blame for economic issues.</p>
<p>Even if you are in the naive school of thought that thinks Presidents, some how, magically &#8220;control&#8221; the economy, that is only ONE thing, in a mix of several variables, where the price of gasoline is concerned.</p>
<p>On the other issues?</p>
<p>Bush wants to build more refineries.</p>
<p>Democrats do NOT want to build more refineries.</p>
<p>Bush wants to drill for more oil.</p>
<p>Democrats do NOT want to drill for more oil.</p>
<p>If Bush had his way, on the PRODUCTION side of the balance sheet, gasoline would be: CHEAPER!</p>
<p>Instead, Democrats had THEIR way, and gasoline is: MORE EXPENSIVE!</p>
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