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It would be interesting to know if the Hispanic folks that were involved in recent traffic accidents (train and motorcycle) were U.S. citizens.

It would be interesting to know that Businesses larger than 50 people have to report publicly how many on their payroll are not U.S. Citizens.

It would be interesting to know how many people accessing subsistence, housing and child care programs offered by the State of Kansas are U.S. Citizens.

It would be interesting to know how many local non-indigenous, non-citizen people are treated at medical facilities through-out the state.

It would be interesting to know how many non-citizens attend our local public schools.

Yes, a detailed statistical analysis would be helpful.

DEA style punishments for anyone who hires illegals.

If you are found with even the smallest amount of drugs, the DEA can take everything you own. We need much the same for those who hire illegal immigrants.

BlueJay,
I don’t believe it…maybe I’ve had TOO MUCH coffee and am not reading accurately.
We NEVER agree on ANYTHING and here a subject WE DO.
Well, glory be! :)

look who’s back!!! LOL.
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Blue Jay…why stop with the DEA type enforcement on the employers who hire them? I’ve always though the only way to end the problem of illegal immigration is to put that kind of stricture on everyone who does business with them. Rent them someplace to live? Lose the property you rented them. Cash their paycheck? Lose the store, bank, etc. where you cashed it. Sell them a car? Lose your car business. Sell them food? Lose your grocery story or restaurant. Provide them medical care? Lose your hospital, clinic, etc.

Let’s not just place the burden on the businesses who hire them, let’s place it on everyone. If we’re going to crack down and make them truly unwanted, then crack down on EVERYTHING!!!

Holman who is taking charge of this great study you are supporting? If you are than we need Americans involved in this so ” WE THE PEOPLE ” are truely supported.

I’m so tired of hearing about studies and consultants. Did we elect anyone at any level who is capable and competent to do the job?

beber,
“then your report of property tax consuming your rebate was, shall we say, exaggerated, boxlock?”

Uh…NO, rebate check = $1200, half property tax = $1200, home evaluation <$200,000.
Do you have any idea what you’re talking about?

Nile is right.
No sense in passing legislation that might cost more money than it saves.
No sense using a sledge hammer when a fly swatter will do.
Whassa matter, afraid of finding out the truth???

Gee, Grobnik, I sure hate to confuse you with the facts, but Dillemore’s proposed study is to see how much enforcement costs, and what enforcing other laws in states like Oklahoma is costing them, vis-a-vis what they’re getting from it.
I thought you conservatives were all about fiscal responsibility.

The study is aimed at NEW laws.
What do I have to do, draw you a picture?
Don’t answer that.

Yup, that’s what we need, MORE NEW immigration laws. More laws that won’t be enforced.

Did we study the existing laws before they were passed, to see how much enforcement would cost?

Maybe we should have a study on the study process.

I agree with the study. It is needed, and would tend to separate the bs from facts. Then a comprehensive set of enforceable laws could be generated. That would be a good thing for Kansas.

The study is only going to reflect that illegal aliens are:

1. Not taking our jobs.
2. Not using revenue resources (schools/social).
3. Not using our hospitals.
4. Are contributing to the tax base.
5. And when you stick em, they bleed red just like the rest of us.

O.K., get on with it. Get the fear factor delay working.

Then come back into session:

1. Direct our cops to apprehend the illegal criminals.
2. Stop any subsidies for higher education/in state tuition.
3. Strength the laws and PUNISH EMPLOYERS who hire them.
4. Stop any welfare/social assistance for these criminals.
5. Turn all of them over to the INS/HLS/ICE.

Not a matter of fear. They are here illegally. They are coming in greater numbers because our surrounding states have gotten tough on them.

What don’t you understand about illegal?

But nice political delay to take the heat off our legislatures who DO FEAR not getting reelected.

Linda…I welcome tourists (and their income) as much as anyone. But there is a major difference…they are here legally to visit.

Immigration Absurdity

The top issue on the minds of Kansas voters at the beginning of this Session was clearly that of illegal immigration. WE demanded we deny public benefits to those illegally in our country. WE demanded an end to in-state tuition for illegal aliens. WE demanded an end to our catch-and-release approach to law enforcement. And WE demanded that businesses stop hiring illegal aliens.

However, it looks like the Kansas Legislature has stuck its head in the sand again – and refused to do much about it – other than falsely to claim progress.

Caving into the pressure from businesses and welfare groups, both the House and Senate passed varying versions of nearly-toothless reform. Let me explain.

First, the Senate bill. It does very little — but that is more than nothing. Unfortunately, some of the most rigorous proposals were eliminated – but at least the denial of illegal alien access to most tax dollars remains.

But the House bill is likely to worsen the situation. Not only are businesses not part of the solution any time soon either, the House included language that potentially opens up more welfare benefits to illegal aliens than even allowed under federal law.

For the first time, Kansas would be creating a new right for illegal aliens state financed medical care, no questions asked.

Kansans deserve better – much, much more must be done. But the tone-deaf Legislature just can’t seem to listen very well on this issue – but that is what elections are for… Unless major changes are made to these bills during the Veto Session, illegal aliens will have once again evaded the wrath of Kansas citizens.

Below is a summary of some of the absurd immigration provisions:

· In-state tuition subsidies will continue for illegal aliens – in clear violation of federal law. Meanwhile, the Senate refused to allow nearly 70 brave ROTC Cadets to have access to the same in-state tuition rates. Hmm…illegal aliens deserve taxpayer help, but not the young men and women who have already committed to four years of military service?

· The bill requires these illegal alien students to file an affidavit with a new Illegal Immigration Enforcement Division in the Attorney General’s Office stating that the person is working toward citizenship. Yes, that’s right. These illegal aliens must report to the very office supposedly tasked with stopping illegal immigration!

· Besides, this affidavit to work toward citizenship is simply legal fiction. Those illegally in our country can not even begin the citizenship process until they return to their home country – and can never legally work here.

· Refuses to allow local law enforcement to inquire into the immigration status of those we arrest for crimes – for we just might learn the extent of the criminal problems associated with illegal aliens. Maricopa County (Arizona) Sheriff Joe Arpaio would be persona non grata in Kansas.

· Lack of law enforcement cooperation between federal and state authorities will permit the development of sanctuary cities.

· Continues to allow businesses to take a tax deduction for the hiring of illegal aliens.
· Claims of fines or jail terms for employers who hire illegal alien workers is simply not true. The provisions in the bill only permit a civil contempt of court charge and are essentially unenforceable. Additionally, they likely preempt federal law – and will not withstand legal challenge as a result. I predict absolutely no employer will be fined or serve a day in jail under these provisions.

· Penalizes unions up to $2,000 for having illegal aliens as members – meanwhile, no fines for the employers who hire these illegal workers.

· Continues the don’t-ask-don’t-tell approach to many welfare benefits. The Senate rejected my amendment to require proof of lawful presence for all government benefits – instead we just take the word of the applicant.

Those awful furriners hjave been a perennial distraction, used by politicians and other confidence men for well over a century to distract and frighten the public while their money and votes are being stolen. Ooh, Look! Another hispanic! Quick, check his green card while I head for the bank!

There are only two effective ways to eliminate the motivation: bring our economy down to their level or bring theirs up to our level. Take your choice!

The choice we want to make is obvious, but the choice they make is the exact opposite. Unless we act, our economy will soon be at their level, not vice versa.

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