A Washington Post article reports that behind the cheering crowds that have greeted Barack Obama in states like Indiana, Pennsylvania and West Virginia, his field workers have at times “endured malicious rants and ugly stereotyping from people who can’t fathom that the senator from Illinois could become the first African-American president.â€
While Obama officials say the overwhelming response has been positive and generous, his staffers recount story after story of whites saying they would never vote for a black man.
One told a phone worker in Pennsylvania, “Hang that darky from a tree.â€
In Kokomo, Ind., black high school students holding up signs for Obama along a highway were greeted with racial slurs by several passing motorists.
Whites who don’t see any racism in America should open their eyes.
170 Comments
The sad fact is there will always be racism. It is something handed down from family member to family member by ignorant people who think the color of a persons has something to do with anything.
What racist people don’t, or can’t, understand is they themselves are the ones causing all the damage. And what really gets me is I have known intelligent people who are dyed in the wool racist. How somebody can be so intelligent, and not see the damage done by their racism is beyond me.
It goes along with my feelings we have not yet reached the age of reason, and will not do so until all forms of racism, religious intolerance and social stereotyping are eliminated. We have a long way to go.
Hmm… I understand that it’s racist to not vote for someone just because they’re black. But I personally know several people who are voting for him just because he’s black. Is that not racist as well? It seems to me that the obama campaign just wants to play the race card when it’s beneficial to them.
As stated earlier before, the Democraps were predicted to bring out the ‘race card’ on Obama or the ’sex card’ with Hillary Clinton.
The taunts of racists should never be tolerated, but the innuendo by Randy Scholfield to impose the shame factor on to voters just to vote for Obama just because he is black is pathethic.
I won’t vote for Obama, because he changes his mind too often, doesn’t vote on issues, has no executive experience and has a steady unwise choice of choosing friends with questionable backgrounds and the most liberal voting record in the Senate.
Excuse me. where has he “played the race card” during his campaign?
And how is pointing out the rampant racism that still exists in this country encouraging people to vote for him “just because he’s black”?
I don’t get your train of thought…I think your racism is being projected through your interpetations.
He is a just and honest man with a common sense that is refreshing…just look what “executive experience” has brought us so far…I’ll take someone with a fresh perspective any day over “business as usual” in Washington.
He’ll have my vote..and being biracial has nothing to do with it at all.
Blacks should form their own coalitions. They’ll never be accepted by white working men. The party needs to split. The inhabitants of the big tent can’t cohabitate. West Virginia — cud chewing goobers voting against blacks. That’s all that was.
Regular..you’ve shown by your previous posts that you’re racist..nothing you say on this post has any merit to me.
No Mary, I didn’t say Obama did, I implied that Obama’s pundits and loyal followers have played the race card.
Obama is not stupid, he wouldn’t make a campaign killer statement like that.
However, his followers are stupid enough to make a statement like that.
Beber, speak for yourself. My husband is a “white working man” and he intends to vote for Obama…lots of “white working men” I know plan to vote for Obama.
What I find humorous is that people like you think they speak for everyone…how stupid.
Speaking of work…gotta go.
Mary_Caruso
Posted May 14, 2008 at 7:16 am | Permalink
Regular..you’ve shown by your previous posts that you’re racist..nothing you say on this post has any merit to me.
============================
You’ve made my point Mary.
Anyone who is not voting for Obama must be a racist right?
Thanks for making my point and for calling me a racists.
So much easier to call names when the your agenda is nicely packaged and hand delivered by the MSM isn’t Mary?
er ‘isn’t it Mary?”
Maybe they are just talking about their experiences, which I don’t doubt are true, judging from the posts on this thread.
Go to go.
One more time…I said YOU are a racist…not that you not voting for him makes you racist. But obviously it has played into your decision.
I’m not voting for him NOT because of the color of his skin. He actually makes sense when he talks about the issues, he has vision, he thinks outside the box, and has the qualitys of a great leader. I have to get to work now.
Mary_Caruso
Posted May 14, 2008 at 7:24 am | Permalink
One more time…I said YOU are a racist…not that you not voting for him makes you racist. But obviously it has played into your decision.
I’m not voting for him NOT because of the color of his skin. He actually makes sense when he talks about the issues, he has vision, he thinks outside the box, and has the qualitys of a great leader. I have to get to work now.
—————————–
Okay Mary,
What part of my initial post did you not get?
Here’s my reasons why I said I wouldn’t vote for Obama. Please point out the racist statements.
I won’t vote for Obama, because he changes his mind too often, doesn’t vote on issues, has no executive experience and has a steady unwise choice of choosing friends with questionable backgrounds and the most liberal voting record in the Senate.
You can always apologize to me for calling me a racist you know.
Uh huh.
I shoulda figured. JUST like clockwork.
Obama gets his tail kicked in West Virginia.
And OUT comes Randy with the racism charge again.
It’s the excuse that keeps on giving. IF Obama is not the Democratic nominee, why it will be because of racism! If he IS the nominee and loses? Well that will be racism as well.
So I GUESS it’s easy?
All you have to do to prove you are not a racist is hand Barack Obama the Presidency on a pillow. And if you won’t do that you MUST be a hood wearing member of the Klan or something.
It’s over with as an excuse with me. I can’t fault white folks not voting for Obama because he is black when so many black folks are voting FOR him for the same, meaningless, reason.
Now give us a thread about how Senator Clinton kicked Obama’s tail 67% to 26% in West Virginia!
“He is a just and honest man with a common sense that is refreshing”
Honest huh?
Yeah he sat in that church for 20 years and did not know his pastor was a freaking loon? Puhlease.
no racism here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBocef6iQps
And Hillary has had two campaign offices bombed.
SO… everyone not voting for her is sexist?
Just like everyone who doesnt support obama is racist?
You are right JR it is the excuse that keeps on giving.
But ya gotta wonder, when st. obama moves on to the general, how well that dog will hunt. Because yes, there ARE racist, sexist bigots who vote in droves. And funny thing, they dont care if you call them that. Maybe democrats do, but not everyone outside the party minds being called bigoted.
“If he IS the nominee and loses? Well that will be racism as well.”
Uh no, JR. That will be Hillary’s fault. Get with the program, dammit!
I’m not totally disagreeing that West Virginia is populated in the majority by a buncha crackers. Just like Kansas is populated by a buncha wingnuts.
However, I sure hope the electoral college map doesnt come down to the democrats NEEDING little ol’ West Virginia…
Or little ol’ Florida, or Pennsylvania, or Ohio, or… fill in the blank.
Obama says he can rewrite the map and win in a different way.
Let’s see it.
Actually kfg, and don’t tell Junior about this, I’m more inclined to vote for Senator Clinton right now than McCain or Obama.
McCain just doesn’t cut it for me, I don’t particularly like the guys policies or ideas.
I guess I will still be a racist according to Mary no matter who I vote for.
As I said, the Obama-ites are pulling out the race card if you don’t vote for Obama.
That will be their undoing imo.
Yeah you’re right kfg.
IF Obama is not the nominee, it will be because Senator Clinton stole it.
IF he is the nominee and loses, (he would) then it is because Senator Clinton sabotaged him.
I’m sorry, but racism is just as ugly in the other direction. I am sick to death of people walking on eggshells because Obama is not white.
It’s time to ask ourselves. Would he be getting this tiptoe treatment if he were a white man?
Racism like any social attitude changes over time and depends on which side you are viewing it from.
I have no doubt that it is effecting this race and is as present as those whom would not vote for Clinton because of her gender. Or Mc Cain because he is older, of course they can dance around it by pointing to other factors. Regular is right that no one should be voted for because of the color of skin or looks.
But on a bigger picture many do, Romney for his Hollywood casting call looks for a movie President.
They say they would not vote for Paul because he looks, old, creepy and wrinkled.
Most racism has become polite, they would never come out and say it up front. Its like back in the seventies when I sold Kirby vacuums. The little town of Genola Ks. is so small the sales team I was on had to double up. I was teamed up with the only Black man. The reaction would always be the same, the shocked look, the shuddering reply and finally the slamming door. They did not come out and say it, but they found the presents of a Black man in their town disturbing. There was one old man whom was at least honest about it, he listen to the sales pitch and then finally said. “Nope I did not need your cleaner and you need to get your Nigger out of my town!”. I felt for Anthony and told him I was sorry for the way he was being treated, sadly he replied “Its just a part of being born Black”.
I was once told by a man:
“ I would rather someone came up to me and call me a no good useless Nigger, then those that come up smiling and calling me a Afro-American. At least the man that calls me a Nigger is being honest and not deceiving me as to how they feel. The ones whom smile and call me an Afro-American, you can see it in their eyes. All the time they are saying it, they are thinking No good useless Nigger!”.
BTW, my use of the term is in the context of the the factual statements.
Its like back in the seventies when I sold Kirby vacuums.
So you were the guy running down the street from the big dogs.
Racism, by its perhaps simplest definition, is prejudice and discrimination based on race. -Wikipedia
————–
Racism? Sure there is racism. It goes back and forth and cross ways. And Randy has to print a quote from some mutant that gets everyone’s blood boiling. Not real helpful there, Randy, if your goal is to spur a reasoned discussion.
I don’t have any answers. In the Bible, Jesus commands us to love each other as He loves us (John 13:34) and also that whatever we do to the least of His brothers, we do to Him. (Matthew 25:44,45) If we try to do that, all else will fall into place.
Its like back in the seventies when I sold Kirby vacuums.
Too funny I just bought a Kirby from a door to door. Damn fine piece of machinery.
“It’s time to ask ourselves. Would he be getting this tiptoe treatment if he were a white man?”
Or a gay man of ANY color? I think not.
Yes dog, I know racism up close and personal. When my girlfriend and I went out, we got more looks for being biracial couple than for being gay. And this was in Austin. And dont forget, I spent three years in one of the most racially divided communities in America. Beaumont, Texas, just a five minute drive from VIDOR Texas where the Klan still marches along I-10.
I’ve been on business calls too, with black coworkers who would ask a question of our clients, usually older white southern men, and then those white men would turn to me, speak to ME and answer the question to ME!
WTF?
And Louisianna and Mississippi were part of my territory, where a banker once refered to “the recent unpleasantness”. After the meeting, it was explained to me he was talking about the civil war.
Woof.
So.. I’m no stranger to bigotry, racial, gender and sexual orientation.
And I STILL think the obama campaign uses the “race card” to their advantage.
And I STILL think that dog wont hunt come November.
Oh Jesus WEPT outlander!
Given the evangelical jihad against gay folks, (has hagee apologized to the gay community like he has the catholic church?)…
You posting this:
“I don’t have any answers. In the Bible, Jesus commands us to love each other as He loves us (John 13:34) and also that whatever we do to the least of His brothers, we do to Him. (Matthew 25:44,45) If we try to do that, all else will fall into place.”
…Just SCREAMS of irony.
Although some might call it hypocrisy.
Yeah. I see how your and yours have “done” the least of MY people. It may all be falling in place for you, but not for us.
BIG effin’ eye roll.
Heh, and dog, I sold Lifetime Cookware door to door more than thirty years ago when I was in college. One of the first women to do so. Who knew though, that I was really a CHEF, not a saleswoman!
…and ya know, a guy stood up at a Hillary campaign event and said, essentially, that she should get back in the kitchen where she belonged.
He was booed, but not ejected. And Hillary responded to the “question”.
So… wanna play tit for tat on racist vs sexist events on the campaign trail?
Do you suppose that if someone stood up at an obama event and said he should get back in the cotton field where he belonged, that he would even LIVE to see the door?
IOKIYAAM
Poor, poor persecuted obama…
And it is time to get rid of racial labels. The government cultivates an us against them attitude by classifying people into racial groups. There may be racial recognition in the real world but there is no reason for the government to propagate those attitudes.
African-American. Why use that silly term? I don’t recall having been referred to as a European-American. Why is it important that a person is one part this “race” and three parts that? If you lined a thousand diverse people up, you would never be able to tell where one “race” begins and another ends. Because we are one race. Human.
Obama has said on a number of occasions that he doesn’t want people to vote for him just because he’s black.
Aristotle identified three motivating factors that persuade people–logos, pathos, ethos (logic, emotion, and trustworthiness).
He believed that the most compelling motivation is ethos–or how much the listener feels he or she can trust the person making the claim.
In this regard, people you perceive as having a similar background to you will represent your interests. So, anti-intellectual Texans will naturally be attracted to GW Bush and blacks will be attracted Obama because they will perceive that person as being more like them, and thus caring about what they care about.
As far as I can tell however, I have not heard Obama say or imply that people should vote for him because he’s black. He’s said the opposite in fact.
Shoot Regular I was also the guy whom had the gun pointed in his face! Fortunately at the time he had a large flash light in the other hand so all I could see was the bright light. The sales people setting behind me could see the gun though and were freaking! It was the last day I sold Kirby and yes they are the best vacuum made.
Outlander–
Why is race important?
Paint your face black and try to get a cab at night in a major city.
Good luck.
Interesting post here about how “Clintons played the race card” is one of the biggest lies ever told.
Of course, obama has become ground zero for Hillary Hatred, so the comments are pretty bloody.
But I’ve been saying all along, the obama camp FIRST played the race card with the mcclurkin incident. HE pandered to black evangelicals in a deliberate slap to the gay community. HE is the one who sliced and diced us into separate groups.
And then his campaign played “pin the racist label on teh donkey” every since.
When the obama camp’s own homophobia is so rampant, I’d like to say that is the pot calling the kettle black. But given the vitriol here against Hillary, I better say “pot… meet kettle..”
IOKIYAAO
Sorry, forgot the link.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×5962321
Sorry, forgot the link.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×5962321
Sorry, forgot the link.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×5962321
Face it. We are a divided country. The hagees of the world hate catholics, the terry, joe and freds of the world hate gays, the Nation of Islam hates whites, Americans hate muslims, blacks hate Koreans, and you only have to mention immigration here to get a taste of the hatred Americans have for hispanics.
I know obama wants to be a uniter, but did he really think that letting mcclurkin and caldwell preach on his behalf was going to bring the black and gay communities together?
Or did he just not care as long as the black evangelicals got to the polls in South Carolina?
You be the judge.
And if he’s lying about being a “uniter not a divider”…
…what else is he lying about?
Race and gender are bound to be an issue in this race no matter how it comes out.
If Obama loses of course there will be the claims of it being because he is Black.
If Hillary loses it will be claimed it was because she is a woman.
If Mc Cain loses it will be claimed that it is because he is old.
(Yeah the last one gives all kinds of opening and none will be because of age)
But then in these cases they will not differ from other political races. Superficial has always play a part in the elections. And have been used to have a reason to vote for someone or not to. I still remember the woman that said she voted for Bill Clinton because he was so handsome.
KFG, Oh wouldn’t it be so much fun to suddenly have stood up in the restaurant and shout “Oh yeah! Well she is mine you can not have her!”. Speaking of Texas, I worked with a Black guy from Texas and he was shocked that he found Kansans seem more racist. He had lived a very sheltered life and it was the most interact he had with any one White. He was puzzled that he was getting so much attention from White women. I told him it was the “Black Mystic”, he did not know what I meant by that so I explained it to him.
His jaw dropped and exclaimed “But that’s not true!”.
Hee hee hee dog!
“KFG, Oh wouldn’t it be so much fun to suddenly have stood up in the restaurant and shout “Oh yeah! Well she is mine you can not have her!”.
No kidding, especially since she is hot as hell. And a lawyer. Too bad she doesnt want to farm
Sorry for the multiple posts. Between this slow blog and my slow computer this week, I’m having a heck of a time posting. And typing.
And White,Liberal editorial writers who see racism everywhere should open their eyes.
Well girl there may still be hope, after all if Oliver and Lisa can make a go of farming. “Green acres is the place to be.. Farm living is the life for me!” LOL
Hee hee hee dog. I’m working on a personal ad now for some young baby dyke with big muscles, lots of energy, and a tractor would be nice. Carpentry and plumbing skills a plus.
Please send picture of tractor.
Here you go dog, Green Acres Intro 1966.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=k2WlYgDe1Vs
BTW, I met that guy who played the young farm hand on Green Acres, Tom Lester. He did a stint with roaming evangelism at Baptist Churches. He had some pretty good anecdotal stories, but wasn’t much of an evangelist.
What no one wants to mention is the sexism going on. Do you think Clinton isn’t getting votes because she’s a woman? It’s entirely possible there are women out there who are saying, “Poor Hillary. She put up with that man’s wandering and deserves to be president!”
Some people will vote or not vote for the most ridiculous reasons.
And just in case anyone has forgotten, Obama is half WHITE.
The point of Randy’s post was that “whites who don’t see any racism in America should open their eyes.”
I think we can all agree with that.
Wow, Pre. I never figured you to be one to repeat Tweety’s talking point about Hillary only being where she is because Bill cheated on her.
Looks like no matter how captain and others want to sweep obama’s gay problem under the rug, the problem persists. The last part of this comment on DU is exactly how I feel.
“After the Logo debate
I was okay with him. I prefer Edwards, but I was okay with him. Not happy, but okay. He was parsing and triangulating against us, could have dealt with that.
Now he’s surrounding himself with bigoted (if not outright homophobic) advisors, maintaining that his faith informs his bigotry, and refuses outreach to (need I say it again) the single demographic that has shown its loyalty to the Democratic Party more than any other–more than women, more than union members, more than Hispanics, more than African Americans.
I like the “self-appointed spokesperson” slur, though. That shows you might have the ability to think. Of course, I can turn it around and ask if you’re the “self-appointed spokesperson” for the Obama supporters. Now, of course, you won’t answer that. I guess I can say that I definitely am speaking for myself. There’s extremely heated debate on Obama in gay forums I participate in that isn’t there for Hillary (mildly heated debate there, because she has good and bad points as opposed to, well, all bad points). Obama will need to put some kind of overtly friendly individual up for the VP slot or the party will really risk losing the gay community this time around.
It should, really, be impossible for a Democratic Senator from Illinois (my home state) to lose my wholehearted support. Right now…to not hijack the thread too much, I’m starting to rethink whether I’m having buyers remorse for the entire Democratic Party. ”
Funny. It was the Logo debate that brought me over to Hillary… After Dennis dropped out of course!
Actually Predestined, I think Senator Clinton is getting votes primarily because of the Billiary factor more than anything factor.
I liked ol’ Bill Clinton in certain areas. Sure, he was a world class BS’er, but deep down he’s a pretty good ol’ boy.
I think the combo of a former President with 8 years of experience and a Senator with shared experiences and that of a Senator is more appealing than a nobody from Illinois with zero experience in anything closely resembling executive experience.
McCain? Well, I think he’s past his prime and acts and talks too impulsively for my tastes.
If I had a choice, I’d vote for Huckabee or Romney, both former Governors with executive experience. But I don’t have that choice, at least not one that would matter.
Bigotry is as bigotry does. Perhaps those who live in glass houses shoudnt throw stone?
We reap what we sow…
Maybe if I voted for Obama, I would prove I’m not a racist. I could erase any guilt I might have lurking in my subconscience by voting for Obama. Slavery was partly my fault after all.
And if all of America voted for Obama, we would proved we have ended racism in America forever - at least against blacks. And our collective white guilt for causing slavery would be wiped clean.
Please America, follow the schedule below to ensure we eliminate ALL racism in America:
2008 Elect a Black/White Male President
2012 Elect a Gay Female President
2016 Elect an Asian President
2020 Elect a Black (100%) President
2024 Elect a Transvestite Hispanic President
2028 Elect a Polish President
2032 Elect an Asian/Indian President
2036 Elect a Straight Female White President
2040 Elect a Straight Hispanic President
2044 Elect a Straight White Guy President (Nostalgia)
…and isnt it interesting, that after ALL the threads bashing Clinton…
….we have NEVER had a mcclurkin thread?
““whites who don’t see any racism in America should open their eyes.””
That is the point. ANY racism?? That’s weak.
Why isn’t the headline:
“While Obama officials say the overwhelming response has been positive and generous,…”
Maybe I should vote for Obama based on how he has voted on the issues. Or based on what he promises he will do differently in the future.
His promises and records show that he will:
1. Raise taxes on the rich. (Rich isn’t defined yet, but I’m sure the details will follow in 2009)
2. Ban those nasty guns.
3. Increase spending by trillions, including a $850 Billion Gift to foreign governments.
4. Give away more free stuff from Government (with money from the money trees) like healthcare and energy credits.
And Obama has such an extensive and well qualified record of leadership, who could NOT vote for Obama?
Racism still exists in the United States. This is undoubtedly true. But those of us who have had the opportunity to live and work in other parts of the world know that it exists pretty much everywhere in the world. In many paces it takes on a much more vicious and violent persona than it does here. In the U.S., we have identified and defined racism as a social problem and are taking steps to find a resolution (albeit it won’t likely be resolved in my lifetime). Some governments still adopt genicide as the resolution to racism. Racism certainly isn’t going to be conquered by those who taunt and accuse each other on these blogs. Did Obama’s campaign play the race card? Sure they did. They got alot of mileage out of Clinton’s statement about the “white working-class” not voting for a black presidential candidate. When the furor began to fade, Obama’s campaign had to spin it a little more to get even more mileage out of it. I’m sure that it will burn some white working-class Clinton haters into voting for Obama just to prove Clinton wrong. I’m sure it will shame some other white working-class folks with self-esteem issues into voting for Obama. Obama’s campaign is run by “spin doctors” who capitalize on the tactical errors of his opponent. It’s the best tool that his campaign has, because Obama can’t count on his experience or record to get him to the White House - there just isn’t enough substance there to work with, so they work with countermeasures to Clinton’s campaign. I will not vote for Obama. But I would have voted for Colin Powell had he ever been a presidential candidate. Had there been a race between Hillary Clinton and Condolessa Rice, I would have voted for Rice. Not because of race, but because their proven abilities.
Naw, how Obama has voted on the issues, or the promises he makes now doesn’t matter.
All that matters is his skin color. So, if you vote against him, you are a racist voting against a black man.
No reason to factor in issues into your voting decision. It’s the candidate’s Appearance and How They Make Me Feeeeeeel that matters, and that’s all that matters.
Hope
Change
Tick
Tock
Hope
Change
Tick
Tock
KFG,
I have no idea who “Tweety” is, but I’ve watched interviews and listened to others and, in essence, that’s what some have said. Please note that I uesd the word SOME. Twice now, as a matter of fact.
Is Hillary running on the “I’m a WOMAN!” platform? It depends on your perspective, I guess. It’s not like it’s easy to ignore, just the same as it’s not easy to ignore that Obama’s skin is a tad darker than mine.
Either way, I don’t really give a fat rat’s patootie.
All those political forums you read and you dont know who “tweety” is?
Sorry. Chris Matthews. Head of the MSNBC cabal lynching Clinton.
Using racism to justify your own racism is wrong. Racists are using the anger from blacks who have been discriminated against repeatedly to justify keeping doing it rather than to look in the mirror on how their own actions have created this hostility.
Yes, I heard many racist remarks while I was making phone calls. One made me so angry, and said they were voting for Hillary. I was so miffed I wanted to tell her to take her vote elsewhere, unfortunately my cell phone happened to go dead right at that moment.
I heard about how Obama was a Muslim…how Obama wasn’t fit to be president because he was black. I heard a LOT of people say “well I just don’t think America is ready for a black president”. That in itself is racist.
Sorry, KFG, I haven’t had much time lately to keep up with all those political forums, and TV watching has been even more limited. But I gotta say that Chris Matthews does look a bit like Tweety…
I’ll definitely remember it from here on out.
Based on the facts, it’s pretty obvious that overt, ignorant racism is alive and well in America. Like fathers and mothers, like sons and daughters, I guess. The ignoramus radio dj Jaz McKay in Bakersfield, CA, is a pretty good example, as is the baffoon bar owner in Macon, Ga. God, they’re ugly people. As per a previous WE Blog question, what percentage of Americans fall into that category? More than we presumed. John McCain should be embarrassed and ashamed if he remains silent. They are his people.
War: You are quite right about racism existing elsewhere. It seems a natural occurance to be suspicious/afraid of someone who looks or acts different than you. In France it is the North Africans, in Germany it is the Turks, in the UK it’s the Pakistanis and Blacks and in Australia, Canada and New Zealand it is the native peoples from whom they stole the land. Aboriginals are represented to a crushing degree in substance abuse, addiction, prostitution, street people, unemployement, crime and imprisonment stats. Sound familiar? An extended family member with a Doctorate was dating a Sri Lankan girl of the same professional disclipine but the Sri Lankan parents would not let their daughter marry a white man, so the relationship broke down. Racism goes many ways and, depending on where you are that minority, you will experience the hellish consequences. Racism was not specifically mentioned in the litany of Gods’ curses on Adam and Eve when expelled from the Garden of Eden, but I think it must have been implied.
Heh Pre! And timmeh russert is punkin’ head. Little phucker carlson is gone, so his nic is unimportant.
I know, it’s hard to keep them straight when they are all saying the same crap.
KsFarmGrrl posts, “Now [Obama] is surrounding himself with bigoted (if not outright homophobic) advisors, maintaining that his faith informs his bigotry, and refuses outreach to [LGBT].”
Stampp Corbin and Tobias Wolff are two openly gay members of Obama’s top advisory team.
http://gaycitynews.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19249408&BRD=2729&PAG=461&dept_i
Gay City News endorses Barack Obama.
The Illinois senator has spoken of a politics of hope and change, not surprisingly given a life that has included a father from Kenya and a mother from Kansas, a term as president of the Harvard Law Review and a job as a community organizer on the streets of Chicago.
. . .
This newspaper was probably tougher on Obama than anyone else was for his ill-considered decision to call on Donnie McClurkin - a so-called “ex-gay” gospel singer vitriolic in his attacks on the LGBT community - to reach out to churchgoing African-American communities in South Carolina. We are counting on him to make wiser choices in future efforts to “build bridges” - and on that score applaud the loving words about his “gay brothers and sisters” Obama enunciated from Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.’s Atlanta pulpit last week.
The McClurkin episode, unfortunate as it was, pales in comparison to the divisiveness that Senator Clinton has allowed her campaign to devolve into. Her comparison between the roles played by Dr. King and President Lyndon Johnson in advancing civil rights can be chalked up to inartfulness. The comments coming from her surrogates are far more disturbing, forming a pattern that sadly can no longer be ignored.
Three Clintonites - the husband of former New Hampshire Governor Jeanne Shaheen, Black Entertainment Television founder Robert Johnson, and, most damningly, key strategist Mark Penn - all injected Obama’s acknowledged youthful cocaine use into the debate. New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo inexplicably used the phrase “shuck and jive” in describing what a presidential candidate might try to pull with the media, and then had his operatives bombard the press with official umbrage that his words might be construed as targeting the African-American senator.
Nobody, however, has been more egregious than Bill Clinton. In his ardent championing of his wife, the former president has dissed Obama as “a kid” and this past Saturday was quick to mention Jesse Jackson’s 1984 and 1988 South Carolina primary wins to contextualize Obama’s commanding victory.
Notwithstanding the role of BET’s Johnson and the ardent support for the New York senator from towering African-American members of Congress such as Charlie Rangel and Maxine Waters, the Clinton campaign’s intent is clear - Barack Obama, after his strong showing with white voters in Iowa and New Hampshire, must be marginalized as the “black candidate,” or Hillary runs the risk of losing.
That is unacceptable, and the LGBT community should lend its voice to a growing progressive chorus in turning its back on this kind of politics.
Pre–
Chris Matthews used to dye his hair a brilliant neon yellow. That’s how the Tweety nick-name started if IRCC.
So there is an anti-Clinton gay group? Which really, is the point of captain’s post. NOT obama’s outreach to the gay community. Typical. Question obama and you get “HILLARY! HILLARY!”
Hillary Haters come in all stripes. If you really wanna play tit for tat, let’s see who can post the most links to obscure blogs.
I said that post represented what I felt. It isnt like I said, and the poster said, I’m the spokes person for the entire gay community. A tactic frequently uses by those who support obama. But thank you for thinking you speak for the majority of the gay community.
You just confirmed that post’s last sentence. Again.
OMG!!! HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
Yes indeedy do. Go click on captain’s link to the gay city news. Read the ENTIRE article (and the one before it if you you have the time)!!!!!
Then go to the comments. Seems the readers and commenters there are for obama not so much…
hehehehehheh. Cap, do you just google and then post without reading?
Go read the comments to that endorsement. You’ll see some of the hostility in the gay community towards obama. And clinton.
But thanks for thinking we are ALL the same…
hehehehheheh. Still laughing…
Here’s something a little more interesting on the same subject.
http://citizenchris.typepad.com/citizenchris/2008/02/those-gay-exit.html
From that article, kfg, polls…
The results of the Super Tuesday exit poll are also underwhelming when put into context. For one thing, consider that Clinton won her home state of New York by 57 percent to 40 percent, so backing by gays at a range of 59 percent to 36 percent is not dramatically different. The same holds true to a lesser extent in California, where Hillary won the general vote 52 to 42 percent and the GLB vote 63 to 29 percent.
It appears that Senator Clinton owns the GLB voter base.
Osama Obama is using smoke and mirrors, with a greasy McClurkin handle.
Say, Regular, where does McCain stand on LGBT?
Where does McCain stand on anything, except to echo George W. Bush?
And they said Kerry was a flip-flopper. (Where the heck is that little rolling eyes guy when I need him?)
For the life of me, I still cannot understand why anybody who does not agree with a minority, whether it racial, sexual orientation, or whatever, is prejudiced.
Living in Georgia, I can tell you that I have encountered as many prejudiced black Americans as I ever have white. Either recognize people for who they are individually, and not who they are ethnically, or quit trying to pretend we white folks (male in this case) are the only prejudiced ones.
I suspect he’ll go the way of Kennedy if he gets elected, hope I’m wrong, but there are a lot of skin heads out there.
For the life of me, I still cannot understand why anybody who does not agree with a minority, whether it racial, sexual orientation, or whatever, is prejudiced.
Living in Georgia, I can tell you that I have encountered as many prejudiced black Americans as I ever have white. Either recognize people for who they are individually, and not who they are ethnically, or quit trying to pretend we white folks (male in this case) are the only prejudiced ones.
I seem to remember another candidate that ran on the “I’m a uniter not a divider” slogan and how has that worked out for us?
As I sit and read through these posts, I am thinking that Obama is half black and half white. So really why is he being called just a black man? Obama has his mother’s side (which by they way is from Kansas) as his family also.
I have never heard Obama trying to use the race card. In fact, I have only heard him speak of the race issue as a major problem in this country that needs to be addressed and resolved if the US is to be a strong and united country so we can achieve greatness together.
All this race card business is being done by the political pundits, Republicans and Hillary Clinton herself by bringing up the fact that whites won’t vote for a black man.
But I have to wonder, when push comes to shove, would these whites (especially men) vote for a woman to be president? Isn’t that being sexist (which is just as bad as being racist).
And as for the Rev Jeremiah Wright issue, that is how black churches conduct their services. The reaction to the news clips shows exactly how divided we are in the race issue. Whites have their way to worship and blacks have their way to worship. I agree that Wright went too far in his rantings but doesn’t Pat Robertson go too far in his rantings when calling for the assassinations of foreign leaders he doesn’t like - and where is the outrage at Robertson’s comments?
Bottom line, we all have a single vote. We can use that vote however we choose. If you choose to waste it on ‘none of the above’ then that is your choice also. But if you don’t vote, then you really have no right to complain afterwards.
Predestined
Posted May 14, 2008 at 1:02 pm | Permalink
Say, Regular, where does McCain stand on LGBT?
Where does McCain stand on anything, except to echo George W. Bush?
And they said Kerry was a flip-flopper. (Where the heck is that little rolling eyes guy when I need him?)
—————————
Beats me what McCain’s stance is on the LGBT issue.
Frankly don’t care nor do I intend to vote for McCain.
Of course racism isn’t dead yet, but it’s often dressed up so nice these days that it will look good in a coffin when it finally kicks the bucket! And it will deserve a monstrous headstone so we don’t forget how it happened.
As for Obama, he’s exactly half of what this country needs to claw its way up out of the Bush hole it’s in. He’s a terrific navigator but he needs the political savvy of Hillary or someone like her to be a very active vice president and pull his agenda through congress. Then this country might be something again!
Of course racism isn’t dead yet, but it’s often dressed up so nice these days that it will look good in a coffin when it finally kicks the bucket! And it will deserve a monstrous headstone so we don’t forget how it happened.
As for Obama, he’s exactly half of what this country needs to claw its way up out of the Bush hole it’s in. He’s a terrific navigator but he needs the political savvy of Hillary or someone like her to be a very active vice president and give him the power to pull his agenda through congress. Then this country might be something again!
Sorry, didn’t mean to double-post.
Sorry, Regular, I keep forgetting. But then being a Republican and all, I thought you might have a clue about it. I freely admit I don’t. I gave up on McCain when he let the party run over him in 2000, and then came back for more.
“Whites who don’t see any racism in America should open their eyes.”
Are we seeking sympathy votes? Heck, why can’t we ever get to the issues with this candidate?
Amway,
“Are we seeking sympathy votes?”
Nope, we’re seeing “mad as hell and we want as far away from Bushllit as we can get” votes! Obama said all the right things. All we as voters can do is hope that he gets all those right things done, most of which are already far too long overdue.
We’ve already elected a president because of who his daddy was. I don’t think we’ll make that mistake again soon. Who Obama’s daddy was isn’t an issue, it’s who Obama is that we’re interested in, and electing him is the only real way we have of finding out.
This is interesting.
Remember the flap about Huckabee’s “subliminal” cross? Obama’s appeal is far beyond subliminal. Check it out out for yourself (yes, it’s a GOP site, but the flyer is reproduced there - trust me, liberals, your fingers will not rot off):
http://race42008.com/2008/05/12/barack-obamas-pitch-in-kentucky/
“Faith. Hope. Change.” An interesting rewrite of I Cor. 13; now there’s audacity. And a recitation of the day Obama “felt a beckoning of the spirit and accepted Jesus Christ into his life.” The appeal to Christians, especially evangelicals, is not remotely subtle.
If a Republican offered this flyer, the MSM would . . . oh, hell, we all know what they’d do, except for those in the fantasyland of the “conservative MSM.” The double standard is normal, and to be expected. We just live with it.
Speaking of being a “day late and a dollar short”. It looks like the Obamaman has finally picked up the endorsment of John Edwards.
It’s good that he waited until after the North Carolina primary since the Kerry/Edwards team failed to carry Edwards’ home state!
“If a Republican offered this flyer, the MSM would”
GMC - the corporate media has already skewered Obama for his pastor while giving McCain a free ride for “Catholics Whore of Bbylon” Hagee and “Declare Crusade against the world” Parsley.
GMC I am NOT AT ALL Happy about that flyer, however I also understand that he’s been crucified for being a Muslim.
McBush refuses to accept Jesus as his Saviour…so Obama is certainly “one up” on the old 100 year war man.
Obviously HLP Obama had North Carolina in the bag without Edwards.
Edwards timing is perfect…wake up old man!
“he’s been crucified for being a Muslim”
Which has been traced to an ex-CIA guy:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/election2008/story/36410.html
“One practitioner in Virginia, who hates Obama like a dog hates cats, led a reporter through his efforts. Because the man is a retired clandestine CIA officer, identifying him could endanger officers or operations that remain classified, so McClatchy will not reveal his name.
In late 2006, convinced that an Obama presidency would be disastrous for America, he decided to start an anti-Obama operation. He combed the public record on Obama. He used a couple of allies and informants — half-jokingly dubbing his group “The Crusaders” — to learn about Obama’s background, especially his Africa connection and how he came to be the editor of the Harvard Law Review.
He assembled a dossier on Obama, including allegations that Obama attended a madrassa, or Islamic religious school, in his youth in Indonesia.”
Interesting that the MSM will not name him but was perfectly willing to go along with outing Plame.
“Osama Obama can’t get the vote of non-crackheads. Obama followers vote for people that look like them, wannabe like him and take drugs like him.”
“You can always apologize to me for calling me a racist you know.”
Sounds pretty racist to me, Regular.
“I’m sorry, but racism is just as ugly in the other direction. I am sick to death of people walking on eggshells because Obama is not white.”
Excuse me, but he’s as white as he is black.
It’s so true that racism and bigotry are rampant in every culture, every race, and every social and professional subgroup. I’ve been the target of racism, sexism, and every other aspect of discrimination you can think of, but I realize that assholes abound in every aspect of humanity. I just don’t give it any power in my life.
by Patrick J. Buchanan
Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.?
Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White
America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.
This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions,
grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:
First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It
was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave
ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to
Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and
prosperity blacks have ever known.
Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.
Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white
Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ’60s on welfare,
food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student
loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty
programs designed to bring the African-American community into the
mainstream.
Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination
against white folks — with affirmative action, contract set-asides
and quotas — to advance black applicants over white applicants.
Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over
America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult
education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.
We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude??
Barack talks about new ‘ladders of opportunity’ for blacks.
Let him go to Altoona?and Johnstown, and ask the white kids in
Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters
handing out scholarships for ‘deserving’ white kids.?
Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and
incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of
white America ? Is it really white America ’s fault that illegitimacy in
the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black
dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?
Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure
of the black community itself?
As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and
especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that
while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time,
black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?
Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common
than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as
common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?
We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley,
the Duke rape case and Jena . And all turned out to be hoaxes. But
about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear
nothing.
Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and
40 trillion tax dollars ago.
“First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It
was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave
ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to
Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and
prosperity blacks have ever known.”
You’re kidding right?
Patrick Buchanan is nothing but a a neocon asshole.
Hank - I agree with much of what buchannen says here. I also remember the duke fiasco and tawana brawley. And, the difficulty even I might face if I lambasted mayor Brewer about something. Or, I suppose, former mayor Broadfoot.
But, I have to say that when I see certain of our poster say “Osama Obama” etc it does give me pause.
American whites enslaved blacks for 300 years, kept them as property to do with as they wished, tore apart their families, lynched them from trees, held them down and treated them as second class citizens until just a very short time ago…and blacks are supposed to be grateful?
You’re delusional HLP.
not too odd a racist quoting a racist
mary thats what i meant
I wonder what your perspective would be if you’d been born black in this country, Hank. Would you be grateful to have been forced to go to separate schools, churches, restaurants, hospitals, forced to sit at the back of the bus and in the balcony of the movie theatres, and required to serve your country apart from white soldiers? If you had not had the same opportunities to advance simply because of the color of your skin?
I find it funny and pathetic that those who think the blacks have had it so good are white folks who have never walked in their shoes.
Shame on all of you.
And so it begins, the Obama-ites declaring anyone not voting for Obama must be a racist.
Prediction: This false accusation will be the end of Obama’s Presidential chances.
HLP is just an old fart like his Republican candidate McBush.
Their time is up and they are afraid…
Sucks to be them.
Oh Reguliar..SSDD.
Sucks to be lonely old you too.
I agree Mary…notice it’s the racists who always defend the racism. They should be happy that we did that to them is about the most vile comment I’ve ever heard.
And Pat Buchanan has plenty of them.
Google his racism and see. He should be on Fox News. And truly I have no use for any racists. As far as that goes, I wouldn’t want to sit at the same table with you if you feel that way.
It would be really great if everyone attacked racists every time they show their uglyness.
I’m proud of you Mary.
Got to tuck my babies into bed…how ’bout you Reguliar…got any kids to tell stories to at night?
Sucks to be you.
“And so it begins, the Obama-ites declaring anyone not voting for Obama must be a racist.”
Can you be specific, Reg? I don’t remember saying that…but it IS obvious you’re a racist, and I don’t give a rat’s ass who you vote for.
Thnak God, you and I are the majority PMom…I believe most Americans have evolved beyond judging someone by the color of their skin, thank God. Those that still do aren’t worth much in my opinion.
This thread only confirms the prime opinion of the US, universally held but seldom spoken by others. A racist society where a Pat Buchannnan could actually win a few primaries in a well financed run up to a Party nomination. Only in America!….. or 1930’s Germany. Just subsitute “black” for “Jew”, it’s the same message. And gee, Pat’s a good Catholic but isn’t the guy in the Vatican now a former member of the elite Hitler Youth?
Well Mary, I think you are a bigot. You prove it every time you say something about Christians.
You can call me a racist, but doesn’t mean it’s true. Like a whitebread like yourself can call me a racist and make it stick.
Come live on my side of town in a truly mixed neighborhood and make that statement. I know, you lived here before, but you fled because the blacks were getting too close. White flight and all of that right Mary?
So who walks the talk and who talks b.s. now Mary?
Mary the whitebread bigot who accuses others of being racist who fled from a neighborhood that was turning too black for her.
Lord, lead us not into temptation;
And deliver us from those who think they’re You!
#
KansasNative
Posted May 14, 2008 at 9:00 pm | Permalink
Got to tuck my babies into bed…how ’bout you Reguliar…got any kids to tell stories to at night?
Sucks to be you.
——————
I don’t understand the hate in the liberal mind. And I don’t want to.
Pat Buchanan is quite a ways from a neocon Mary. Read a few of his articles and you will be surprised.
So let’s see now.
Obama makes his greatest speech and it is all about race.
His pastor and former pastor speak racist and bigoted language from the pulpit to make everyone believe what they say.
And then there is Loius Farakan, whom everyone knows is a racist.
Gee, I don’t know if I get it yet.
Regular, I bet my block beats yours for colorful. My granddaughter’s kindergarten class beats both of us.
Pretty sad to attack Mary on your perceived notions of her.
Predestined
Posted May 14, 2008 at 10:05 pm | Permalink
Regular, I bet my block beats yours for colorful. My granddaughter’s kindergarten class beats both of us.
Pretty sad to attack Mary on your perceived notions of her.
————————–
Pretty sad for a bigot to call anyone a racist.
Uh yeah.
I’ve seen Mary’s neighborhood.
Not so much a race thing I guess. Just folks with a lot of money who live in a gated community by a lake.
Wow this whole thread can be summarized in one line:
Obama pulls out the black card.
and the libs eat it right up!
O.K., which will call me a racist first?
Wow,!
I guess we can’t have a conversation about race after all!
Don’t forget the community stables, the wooded riding trails, the motor cross track, the airstrip, the club house and tennis courts! We have more than just a lake!
Oh, but there’s no gate!
“This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions,grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:”
When will there be a White History Month?
It’s only about race because Obama is Black.
It’s only a thread, because the Obama team is not pulling the black thread, and using it wisely to drum up support, sympathy votes, and work the guilt which liberals have about how our ancestors treated
the blacks.
Sure, let’s have a race thread. But without Obama.
Without the politics. This thread is about those two issues. It’s not about the open racism by bigots in day-to-day living which blacks still endure.
It’s about Obama.
It’s only a thread, because the Obama team is pulling pulling the black card,
Yeah I SAW the “clubhouse”. What a dump. AND the rundown playground.
Kind of a tip off what happens when the self satisfied and absorbed congregate.
We’ll have the next gathering at your place junior. Ours evidently fails to meet your standards.
Hank, is there a shooting range nearby?
Why yes there is Max! Close enough to be handy, far enough away that it doesn’t scare the dogs!
We’re about two miles from the range at Lake Afton.
Don’t care to see you or any other cons again there Hank.
You’d probably be as uncomfortable in my neighborhood as I was in yours anyway.
Substitute the name of any politician–or anyone for that matter, in this passage:
As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is {insert name here} aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time,black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?
Is {insert name here} aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?
Think about what Buchanan is really saying: those damn ungrateful, criminally-inclined blacks who love to attack white people! Yet, just a few generations back, it might have been his ass (or a ancestor, anyway) being hauled off in the “paddy wagon.” He seems not to grasp the tragic irony.
Forget about Obama. How can anyone with a functioning conscience read that crap and not be repulsed?
“functioning conscience read that crap and not be repulsed?”
The statistics don’t lie Rage. They reveal a truth that is very much repulsive.
It should open your eyes to the truth.
What’s the matter Rage? Are you repulsed by the truth?
You live your pathetic life in a little box of your own making junior.
“What’s the matter Rage? Are you repulsed by the truth?”
It’s sad really. The facts are horrendous, and instead of addressing the issue and problems the facts reveal -
they want to shoot the messenger.
Hey American_Way,
Bill Cosby, Patrick J Buchanan. Both want African Americans to take responsibility for their own problems. What racists!
sure we can have a white history month…when the term HISTORY no longer automatically refers to WHITE history.
The truth Hank…god how pathetic. The truth is that if people like you stopped acting like blacks are the downfall of society, maybe they’d stop living down to your expectations.
Ever think of that?
No time for any extended detailed discussion, guys. Just two points:
1) Even if the stats are entirely accurate, they don’t make the point Buchanan seems to be arguing.
2) Mark Twain once noted that “there are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.” Absent proper context and controls, you can prove any point by throwing out a few numbers.
For example, note that African Americans are only 12% of the U.S. population. White Americans are a high percentage (not the full remaining 88%, but close enough). So of course , but mere statisical chance, you will see substantially more black-on-white crime then the reverse.
And none of this gets to the causes of crime, which is inescapably relevant to any such examination of same.
I’m not junior to you or anyone else here or anywhere else there Hank.
Lash out much kept man?
Sheesh do you Obama supporters SEE the scum he wants to work with?
“So of course , but mere statisical chance, you will see substantially more black-on-white crime then the reverse.”
Reading you butcher the facts is almost too painful to bear.
P.S. I was speaking of percentages of course. . .caveat viewor.
Reading you butcher the facts is almost too painful to bear.
{Shrug} Feel free to explain how I “butchered” the facts. If I need a good laugh tomorrow, I might check it out.
I have great respect for Bill Cosby. Still have his “Bill Cosby is a very funny fellow” album, which is probably a collectors item.
Also saw him as a guest speaker in person in Chicago a few years ago. And I recorded his appearance on Oprah.
He does not mince words. He calls it as he sees it. He is speaking to blacks as a black. Brutally honest.
And as I listen to him, I learn lessons which apply in my own neck of the woods.
But yep, he’s a racist!
Denial and spinning the facts will ensure we perpetuate the problems. Rather than facing them head-on.
Interesting how you torture the ‘percentages’ to attempt to make a point, Rage.
Of course, your point is destroyed when you consider that over 90% of the crime on blacks is by other blacks.
Well Jay,
You’ll allways be ‘junior’ to me. don’t get so upset about it, it’s a term of endearment!
I just get a little tired of you constantly dumping on Mary because she’s rich.
When I drive by her house at 7am on the way to feed the horses, she’s already at work. When I drive by her house in the evening 6:30 to 7am, she’s not home from work yet.
Her husband works 8 to 10 hours a day. Rich? Oh yes junior, they’re rich. Rich in so many ways that you’ll never be able to comprehend with your pathetic, jealous view of life.
And I’m richer for having them as friends.
“evening 6:30 to 7am”
PM, and I’m a little uneasy with anyone posting the hours others are NOT at their home on an open forum.
I have great respect for you Hank, admire you even. But ask your son if you don’t believe me. This is a nasty security issue.
Good Hank.
Get her off “my side” and my back.
And don’t lecture me. Proud pensioner on the public dime and kept man.
Well, American_Way, just making a point. Junior already knows where we live but he doesn’t know our days off.
Mary and her husband are very gracious people, open their home to all. We aren’t a ‘gated community’ but we do only have one way in and one way out. We have a neighborhood watch and last year I installed security cameras on a 48 hour loop.
We aren’t the idle rich that junior would have you believe, we’re a very diverse neighborhood. A lot of my neighbors have their own businesses, a lot are retired and a lot ‘work for the man’.
We are a close neighborhood. We look out for each other and we know all the children’s names. Both sides of the lake have a group of men that have volunteered to be ‘first response’ in an emergency.
Don’t worry about Mary, we got her back!
Well junior,
Get a job and maybe someday you’ll get a pension. Wash your T-shirt and comb your hair and maybe you’ll get a woman.
Want to know something that will really annoy you?
I don’t need the pension, I’m investing it!
“I don’t need the pension, I’m investing it!”
I may have you beat. I’m investing one pension, and working to get a second! Doesn’t include the better half and hers. That would make us “filthy”, but then, those calling us that would miss the the key word to our abundance: W.O.R.K. Most of it hard.
Another tip: If junior would devote as much time to pursuing a woman and getting a job as he does pursuing the weblog: He’d have both!
I’m positive he could get a job, but a woman. . .?