Comments on: Creating an army of young volunteers http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/ The Wichita Eagle Editorial Department Blog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:53:40 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: kansas board of regents http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-371965 kansas board of regents Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:09:35 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-371965 [...] Corps of college students who can be dispatched to help communities. ???With a single phone call,http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/KU can rent out space and not pay property tax Lawrence Journal-WorldKansas University will be able [...] [...] Corps of college students who can be dispatched to help communities. ???With a single phone call,http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/KU can rent out space and not pay property tax Lawrence Journal-WorldKansas University will be able [...]

]]> By: SEMPERFIGUY http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-359433 SEMPERFIGUY Thu, 29 May 2008 06:49:09 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-359433 blue jay, I'm not "regular" but I'm sure he is brilliant. blue jay, I’m not “regular” but I’m sure he is brilliant.

]]> By: BlueJay http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-358448 BlueJay Wed, 28 May 2008 04:57:37 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-358448 "Semperfiguy" is another nic for "Regular" “Semperfiguy” is another nic for “Regular”

]]> By: Jed http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-358445 Jed Wed, 28 May 2008 04:53:27 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-358445 I've seen instances where volunteer groups have made a real difference. I had a neighbor, an engineer who was on a Mennonite disaster relief team, and his boss had to make do without him in the event of a tornado, earthquake or flood almost anywhere in the world. He would be there, figuring out how to lift collapsed buildings off of victims or wading waist-deep in flood water to grab a kid, etc. They were well funded, equipped, in communication, organized and experienced in getting in, doing their job and not getting in the way of other rescue efforts. I've also seen volunteer organizations whose only visible purpose was to pat each other on the back. We really have enough of those. I’ve seen instances where volunteer groups have made a real difference. I had a neighbor, an engineer who was on a Mennonite disaster relief team, and his boss had to make do without him in the event of a tornado, earthquake or flood almost anywhere in the world. He would be there, figuring out how to lift collapsed buildings off of victims or wading waist-deep in flood water to grab a kid, etc. They were well funded, equipped, in communication, organized and experienced in getting in, doing their job and not getting in the way of other rescue efforts.
I’ve also seen volunteer organizations whose only visible purpose was to pat each other on the back. We really have enough of those.

]]> By: SEMPERFIGUY http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-358437 SEMPERFIGUY Wed, 28 May 2008 04:44:45 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-358437 It's certainly not good for them, and if it's "them" that matter, you should agree with me! It’s certainly not good for them, and if it’s “them” that matter, you should agree with me!

]]> By: SEMPERFIGUY http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-358436 SEMPERFIGUY Wed, 28 May 2008 04:43:24 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-358436 Mary, I AM SEXIST AND DEMEANING! Look it up in the dictionary, you will see my picture there. However, a good portion of the people collecting "benefits" of certain sorts are merely worthless. I don't care of your a full blown (insert the PC word for retard here). My mother trained those folks to work at jobs. It was her professional trade for many years. Anyone can work, at something! I do not care if it costs MORE to train them to do something in order to earn a living than what it costs to simply give them the money, THEY SHOULD WORK! Not for me, not for you, BUT FOR THEM! We have created a pretty large segment of our population that is truely worthless! Hopeless! That's not good for anybody! Mary, I AM SEXIST AND DEMEANING! Look it up in the dictionary, you will see my picture there.

However, a good portion of the people collecting “benefits” of certain sorts are merely worthless. I don’t care of your a full blown (insert the PC word for retard here). My mother trained those folks to work at jobs. It was her professional trade for many years. Anyone can work, at something! I do not care if it costs MORE to train them to do something in order to earn a living than what it costs to simply give them the money, THEY SHOULD WORK! Not for me, not for you, BUT FOR THEM!

We have created a pretty large segment of our population that is truely worthless! Hopeless! That’s not good for anybody!

]]> By: Mary_Caruso http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-357636 Mary_Caruso Tue, 27 May 2008 01:55:35 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-357636 "I can’t give much though, the government takes so much of it to support the worthless welfare cows." To whom do you refer? The physically disabled or the mentally ill? In case you haven't noticed...women don't get welfare just because they give birth. I find your comment sexist and demeaning. Jerk. “I can’t give much though, the government takes so much of it to support the worthless welfare cows.”

To whom do you refer? The physically disabled or the mentally ill?
In case you haven’t noticed…women don’t get welfare just because they give birth. I find your comment sexist and demeaning. Jerk.

]]> By: SEMPERFIGUY http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-356917 SEMPERFIGUY Mon, 26 May 2008 03:39:25 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-356917 I think any child should be able to go to college, even if they are dirt poor, but they should earn their way through, with programs like this! I applaud them, I want to give them some money myself! I can't give much though, the government takes so much of it to support the worthless welfare cows. What I can give, I will though, how do we donate? I think any child should be able to go to college, even if they are dirt poor, but they should earn their way through, with programs like this! I applaud them, I want to give them some money myself! I can’t give much though, the government takes so much of it to support the worthless welfare cows. What I can give, I will though, how do we donate?

]]> By: BlueJay http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-356799 BlueJay Sun, 25 May 2008 22:41:09 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-356799 Well sure we want to teach volunteerism that is not compensated. But we have to be realistic as well. These are tough times. I see nothing wrong with incentivising community service with some kind of compensation. Well sure we want to teach volunteerism that is not compensated. But we have to be realistic as well.

These are tough times. I see nothing wrong with incentivising community service with some kind of compensation.

]]> By: Apophis http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-356773 Apophis Sun, 25 May 2008 21:55:10 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-356773 Allie Crouse is a former student of mine. Way to go Allie! Allie Crouse is a former student of mine.

Way to go Allie!

]]> By: Monkeyhawk http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-356698 Monkeyhawk Sun, 25 May 2008 18:47:59 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-356698 Barack Obama has proposed a volunteer program that would reward volunteers with a the opportunity for a college education in exchange for a year or two of their public service. Realistically, we can't expect those kids to live on the street and stop eating during their years of volunteering. So, yeah, there'd be a stipend involved and that might cost something. Ah, but John Sidney McCain the Third is even against rewarding people who've volunteered for <i>military</i> service (i.e., getting shot at) with educational opportunities. Which side are you on? Barack Obama has proposed a volunteer program that would reward volunteers with a the opportunity for a college education in exchange for a year or two of their public service.

Realistically, we can’t expect those kids to live on the street and stop eating during their years of volunteering. So, yeah, there’d be a stipend involved and that might cost something.

Ah, but John Sidney McCain the Third is even against rewarding people who’ve volunteered for military service (i.e., getting shot at) with educational opportunities.

Which side are you on?

]]> By: Wiseman http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-356681 Wiseman Sun, 25 May 2008 18:18:08 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-356681 I thought that volunteering work was tied to getting credits? I thought that volunteering work was tied to getting credits?

]]> By: Mary_Caruso http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-356637 Mary_Caruso Sun, 25 May 2008 16:29:26 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-356637 The thought of kids doing voluteer work is that they should get paid for it? Seems like you're missing the whole point..afterall, isn't it the kid's choice to donate their time? If they want to get paid, then they should get a job. The problem is that today, too many people scoff at the idea of doing something for someone or for their community and not getting reimbursed for it. We need to encourage the concept of giving, not discourage it. Voluteering has many rewards other than monetary. It helps us to become better people. Young people need to learn this valuble lesson, too. The thought of kids doing voluteer work is that they should get paid for it?
Seems like you’re missing the whole point..afterall, isn’t it the kid’s choice to donate their time? If they want to get paid, then they should get a job.
The problem is that today, too many people scoff at the idea of doing something for someone or for their community and not getting reimbursed for it. We need to encourage the concept of giving, not discourage it. Voluteering has many rewards other than monetary. It helps us to become better people. Young people need to learn this valuble lesson, too.

]]> By: JWink http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-356525 JWink Sun, 25 May 2008 13:12:51 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/05/creating-an-army-of-young-volunteers/#comment-356525 I'm a little dubious of volunteer initiatives. A distinction should be made. Its great when volunteers come together to help themselves for example in a downtrodden neighborhood or to help cleanup a disaster situation like Greensburg. On the other hand, volunteers are sometimes assembled to do a job for which employees should be paid ... in other words to avoid paying salaries. In the situation mentioned above, building hiking paths to a county landfill, I wonder why the county government isn't paying its young people to do these summer jobs so they have school money this fall? I’m a little dubious of volunteer initiatives. A distinction should be made. Its great when volunteers come together to help themselves for example in a downtrodden neighborhood or to help cleanup a disaster situation like Greensburg.

On the other hand, volunteers are sometimes assembled to do a job for which employees should be paid … in other words to avoid paying salaries.

In the situation mentioned above, building hiking paths to a county landfill, I wonder why the county government isn’t paying its young people to do these summer jobs so they have school money this fall?

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