“The majority of Californians disagree with the state Supreme Court’s decision to legalize same-sex “marriage,” according to a Los Angeles Times/KTLA poll. Fifty-four percent support a constitutional amendment defining marriage as the union between one man and one woman that will appear on the November ballot.

Thanks to the court’s May 15 ruling, same-sex couples can “marry” in California as early as June 14. The Alliance Defense Fund filed a petition with the California Supreme Court on Thursday, asking it to delay its ruling until after Californians have voted on the marriage amendment.

When voters get a chance to define marriage, they overwhelmingly support one-man, one-woman unions. Twenty-seven states have amended their constitutions to protect traditional marriage.

“Americans have voted to define marriage as between one man and one woman because they recognize marriage does not just affect one couple — it affects all of society,” said Wendy Wright, president of Concerned Women for America.”

Indeed. Funny how, when blow jobs are mentioned, homosexuality is the first thing out of fleettwood’s mouth. As it were.

The cocksucking isn’t the problem, fleettwood. The homophobia is.

“I don’t think making fun of homos is helpful.”

There’s nothing particularly “homo” about the term. It applies to just about every woman I have or would date.

(Then again, maybe “fleettwood’s” only experience is giving them. Okay. You’re forgiven.)

”

or the court which made the decision as to which votes were legitimate and which weren’t.”

Uh huh. You mean the Supreme Court in a split decision straight in line with Bush the elder who appointed some of them.

And as the movie shows, for the first and ONLY time before or since, or maybe ever, the decision applied to that case ONLY.

The movie also shows the INCREDIBLE break down in voting and counting the votes. It made me ashamed to be an American. There are third world countries that have better systems.

But then counting votes and counting them fairly does not tend to favor Republicans.

My brother is an Obama supporter. After the movie, I asked him “Are THOSE the people you think we can work with?”

He had to admit the idea tasted a little less appetizing.

I don’t think making fun of homos is helpful.

You don’t tell Democracy to drop dead because you care about the people.

You tell Democracy to drop dead because you want to enrich the few at the expense of the many:

Mission Accomplished!

“Thompson now lives in a fortified compound near Aspen, Colo.”

This is often touted as a sign of mental illness or other some dastardly motive of those on the ultra right, and quite possibly, a correct assessment.

The Boxlocks and HLPs and Nathans and outlanders and PaulRossels have a heavy debt to pay to restoring democracy in America.

Thanks to killing off the democratic process in America we now have war without end for nothing in Iraq, 4 dollar a gallon gas, declining stock prices, declining housing prices, gutting of privacy rights, establishment of secret prisons hold captives without trial, a doubling of the national debt, and wealth inequality not seen since Hoover.

By every conceivable measure, including those of the right-wing, this president has been an utter, miserable failure.

History will judge Boxlock along with the useful idiots who supported fascism in the 30’s.

And just so can make no mistake regarding my utter contempt for you, here is the superlative commentary on the Bush crime family’s unforgivable theft of the 2000 Presidential election in Florida: Dr. Hunter S. Thompson.

“There was one exact moment, in fact, when I knew for sure that Al Gore would Never be President of the United States, no matter what the experts were saying — and that was when the whole Bush family suddenly appeared on TV and openly scoffed at the idea of Gore winning Florida. It was Nonsense, said the Candidate, Utter nonsense. … Anybody who believed Bush had lost Florida was a Fool. The Media, all of them, were Liars & Dunces or treacherous whores trying to sabotage his victory.

They were strong words and people said he was Bluffing. But I knew better. Of course Bush would win Florida. Losing was out of the question. Here was the whole bloody Family laughing & hooting & sneering at the dumbness of the whole world on National TV.

The old man was the real tip-off. The leer on his face was almost frightening. It was like looking into the eyes of a tall hyena with a living sheep in its mouth. The sheep’s fate was sealed, and so was Al Gore’s. … Everything since then has been political flotsam & Gibberish.”

http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?id=906189

You support and defend the scum who stole a Presidential election. By extension, Boxlicker, you ARE the very scum who did so. “Scum” is a much nicer word than the others I could use. But I don’t think there’s another one that’s as appropriate.

And, as I and many others have commented before, and still maintain…nobody cares what you think BlueJay, and nobody respects it other than another Ignoranus like yourself, such as 2FCK’ed.
But cheer up, he’s even a worse one.

And on that cue, I’ll mention, as I so often do, Lance DeHaven-Smith’s research, which shows that, based on a count of spoiled ballots (including overvotes in which the intent of the voter was clear), Gore received 46,000 clear-intent overvotes to George Bush’s 17,000. The majority of Gore’s overvotes were African-American votes.

And why DID African-Americans have such a relatively higher rate of overvoting, anyway?

“RinR: For your research, you merged this set of data with detailed profiles of Florida’s electoral precincts. What did you find?

LdHS: One of the things I found that hadn’t been reported anywhere is, if you look at where those votes occurred, they were in predominantly black precincts. And (when you look at) the history of black voting in Florida, these are people that have been disenfranchised, intimidated. In the history of the early 20th century, black votes would be thrown out on technicalities, like they would use an X instead of a check mark.

So you can understand why African Americans would be so careful, checking off Gore’s name on the list of candidates and also writing Gore’s name in the space for write-in votes. But because of the way the vote-counting machines work, this had the opposite effect: the machines threw out their ballots.”

So, never mind that Florida law was clear that where the intent of the voter could be discerned, the vote should count: Repukes didn’t want those votes to count, and they successfully pulled out all the stops–legal, common-sensical, rational–to prevent them from doing so.

DeHaven-Smith, who is a political independent, by the way, also goes about assigning blame where it is due: to Republican Governor and Bush sibling Jeb Bush.

“By 1998, Jeb Bush…went about really consolidating authority, and it became a very partisan system. And at that point, frankly, my political orientation quit mattering. What started mattering to me was having a democracy, having a government that was actually responsive.

One of the things I would hear a lot is people would say, well, if the Democrats were in, they would do the same thing. And I thought about that, and…my conclusion…is “hell no, they wouldn’t.” I know the Democrats; I know Reuben Askew. That guy would have been an absolute maniac about being technically and legally and ethically straightforward and correct in the application of the law. If there had been a recount under his administration, he would have been bending over backwards to make sure it was right.”

http://www.rinr.fsu.edu/winter2005/features/battlefield.html

So, Boxlick, if your argument is that Republicans had to keep Democrats from “stealing” an election, well, golly, Boxlick, who DO those voters belonging to the majority think they are to get to decide an election. The nerve!

We don’t get HBO so we haven’t seen it yet.

Remember, besides the way the RepubliCONs stole the election–in addition to voter purges with a right-wing Texas company chummy to Gov. George W. Bush–was by simply refusing to count overvotes; these were votes punched for Gore and then also had “Al Gore” pencilled in under “write in candidate.”

These some 12 thousand votes, overwhelmingly for Gore, would have easily given him the victory and they were legal votes under Florida law.

This is the recount that the Supreme Court stopped in Dec. 2000 when it told democracy to go screw itself.

I’ll make this real simple, for a simpleton such as yourself: were thousands of eligible African-American voters illicitly scrubbed from Florida’s voting rolls prior to the 2000 Presidential election, or were they not?

Because if they were–and they were–then your accusation that Democrats were trying to “steal” the election is exposed as the completely dishonest propaganda that it is. That doesn’t even TOUCH the Republican refusal to let all the votes be counted–as per Florida law. What were you afraid of, Boxlick? That a majority of voters were going to “steal” an election? Hate democracy much, Boxlick?

When scoundrels LIE and pretend to be victims, Boxlick, it typically is because they’re trying to get away with some reprobate behavior. If you’re going to lie, Boxlick, you should expect to have everything possible thrown at you.

Of course, you wisely ignore the substantive claim in my post, given that, as per Repuke strategy, when the facts are against you, make stuff up as a distraction. I’m not the issue, Boxlick. Your dishonest and the thievery of your political party–THAT’s the issue.

Oh, and Boxlick? If you call people “assholes,” you can expect to be called a “cocksucker.” Respect is earned. And at the moment, you’re operating at a bit of a deficit.

You are a liar and all round despicable excuse for a human being.

Sit at a table and work with you as Obama wants to?

Nah. I’d rather pull your chair from under you as you sit and then hit you with it.

Hey everybody…I don’t want any of you to miss the intellectual midget’s comments above, and how he accuses others of racism when he is the racist.
His complete loss of control over a simple disagreement about his alleged accusation the 2000 election was stolen.
Please read his vulgarity and the shallowness of his argument, with NO support for his position.
It’s something I should not feel probably but I can’t help take delight in seeing the explosive temper and frustration he has, as quite simply he deserves every bit of of the torment he obviously is letting control him.
CF2K, you are a sad example of human being, if in fact that’s what you are and not some alien, ha.
He is also a ‘Ignoranus’, (that’s a person who’s BOTH STUPID and an ASSHOLE)
Have a nice day Ingnoranus, which of course is impossible being you and all.

I hope you can vote for Senator Clinton. You did not say.

I am not sorry to say that at least for now, I cannot vote for Obama.

I find him and his supporters arrogant and dismissive. My own brother is one of them.

I keep telling my little brother that I fear in time he will become a Republican. He has all the traits.

This and Obama’s supporters here including you I see as much the same. You are ok and comfortable. SO you say “Yes we can!”.

Sorry, I guess it is my fault I feel left out?

“Hope”? For what? A panderer who wants to work with the

Oh forget it.

You have to pander. And I have to fight. You have your candidate and I have mine.

And the deal is both of us and all of us have our own concerns.

I doubt you would vote for Hillary. And I do not plan to vote for Barack.

And if that gets us McCain? Well you and yours ARE all about schmoozing the enemy.

I’ll rely on you to cozy up with old John.

I am not trying to “steamroll” the nomination process.

And your opinions, and your votes are your responsibility — not mine.

I suggest that you write up all of your research, thoughts, etc on the 2008 primary and general election. Then seal it, and give it to your son, to be opened when he is old enough to vote.

I DID look. Maybe it is part of the media love affair for Obama I could not find it.

Now it is you and yours want to steamroll the nomination process. Why don’t YOU go prove me wrong instead of demanding I justify my concerns?

And while you do that. Answer this. Do YOU have a reason not to vote for Senator Clinton if she is the nominee?

Because right or mistaken, I do have a reason not to vote for Obama. The burden of proof is on you to tell me I’m wrong.

” ” Give us a credible link with Obama’s exact quote saying that you’re an “irresponsible” parent today, if you cannot afford the huge cost of child health insurance.”

Well I never said that. ”

BlueJay… didn’t you post earlier as ‘J R’?

J R posted March 11, 2008 at 9:23 pm
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/03/obama-slaps-down-talk-of-being-vp/#comment-311316

“Yeah “dots” I really liked when he lauded Reagan and called the Republicans the party of ideas.

Then he REALLY sold me when he said parents who can’t afford health insurance for their kids are irresponsible.“

Well I never said that.

And why are you making me waste time fighting you when I could be fighting the cons?

I’ll fish a link later.

But since you want to fight me and not the cons.

As I recall, Obama said, “Under my plan, any parent that would not insure their child would be irresponsible.

Now I KNOW that Obama does not want everyone covered by national health insurance.

I’ve a fight to get back to. I’m tired wasting time with you fainters.

“

“I falsely claimed nothing.”

Okay… prove it!

Give us a credible link with Obama’s exact quote saying that you’re an “irresponsible” parent today, if you cannot afford the huge cost of child health insurance.

IIRC, that is basically what you posted that he said.

And I do remember the 2000 election — the dysfunctional MSM attacking Gore, and giving Bush a pass, the people I know who voted against Gore, just because he was Clinton’s VP, etc.