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Perhaps Mr. Ayers has grown up and chenged a bit from 40 years ago?

I thought it was Stephanoupolis who brought up the name of Ayers.

GMC - so true. Having been a ‘reform’ type around Chicago I learned all too well about the machine. However I think in the decades since that things have changed - at least some.

I went to high school with Dennis Rader. Guess that makes me a mass murderer, or at least in approval of his actions. Maybe even makes me responsible for what he did. Get a clue.

Ben, we better never run for public office (like either of us is that brainless!) since we’ve been keeping some mighty unsavory company. And that obviously makes us some really bad something, doesn’t it?

Sorry, Ben! I must tell you that I think you are among a small minority of those who run for elected office who are intelligent, capable, honest, trustworthy. Or, maybe I am just way too cynical and unable to see past my prejudices.

Politics has left a bad taste in my mouth over the past few years.

bth
Posted April 18, 2008 at 12:03 pm | Permalink
Perhaps Mr. Ayers has grown up and chenged a bit from 40 years ago?

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Ben, I have seen nothing to have me believe he has changed. In fact, it was reported by several sources that after 9-11-2001, he stated that his group had not did enough bombing.

Wow on a second look?

I missed it the first time.

I don’t really read Randy that close anymore. I’ve sorta lost all my respect for him. Total tool.

Steven got it.

The part I missed?

“Does Hillary Clinton think she’s helping the party by raising these talking points?”

SO Randy wasn’t content to just plant the seeds to grow a lie.

He just out and out lit up the sky with it!

Senator Clinton DID NOT ask the question. She did not go after the story. Or if she did she CHOSE not to use it.

I’m a supporter of Senator Clinton because I do not trust Obama based on his own words. I knew about this story a month ago.

Linda knows. I emailed her about it.

But I didn’t bring it here either.

Editors? I have a request.

PLEASE restrict Randy from posting threads concerning Senator Clinton. He cannot be objective.

Or remotely honest.

If he wants to write his little love letters for Barack ok. But keep him away from anything that requires any journalistic integrity.

Seventeen comments. Real intriguing stuff here, huh? The only ones who find this potentially damaging to Obama are those who won’t vote for him and hope they may convince others. Their attempts to make it something damaging reflect more poorly on them then on Obama. People can see what is and what isn’t pure BS. A couple days ago ksgrm was trying to make this “relationship” much more than it was / is. However, when asked to refute the facts, she couldn’t. All she had was her own fear and her own agenda and it was all very transparent. She repeated her accusations like saying them often enough could make them something more. It’s a trick Rove used well. We know the trick, it won’t work this time.

BlueJay, I would say the reason this hasn’t been a story before is that it still isn’t a story. Has little to do with Clinton could have brought this to the public’s attention, or who did and when anyone knew anything. There isn’t anything to know.

People are acquainted with other people — parents of children at the same school, clerks and other frequent customers at a store we shop often, neighbors, fellow bloggers etc. — in that context and not further. Being acquainted with, associated with, doing business with, knowing another person does not make you share their viewpoints or be responsible for their actions.

And the same goes for the non-story of Resko and any connection with his legal woes to Obama. Another non-story. Not that it won’t be attempted to make a sow’s ear from a silk purse — it will, it has been. It just won’t be anything with legs and it won’t run. There is nothing there.

So relax and let the primary process proceed. I hope both candidates remain above the fray, concentrate on issues that are important, take the high road and in doing will show the pettiness of the Republican attack machine for exactly what it has always been. Obama is right — Americans are smarter than that. We want a president capable of tackling our problems. The games of politics keep us from finding solutions.

“GMC, Nathan, and your neighbor Hank have coronated you Mary. You’re vetted.
You are a Republican. You live like one. You live with them.
Our side is sorry to lose you. But you never really were on our side at all. It just made you feel better to pretend at it.
You help people during the day and get paid to do so.
Then you bash on them afterwords.
I s that about right?”

I think for myself, JR and I really doubt that Hank and Nathan consider me one of their own.
I don’t belong to either “side”, and no one has “lost” me.
Get over the “us against them” attitude that you’ve branded into your head…it’s meaningless and solves nothing. You know nothing about what I do and don’t do for the poor and mentally ill.
You have no business judging me, or anyone else for that matter.

I spend two hours of my own time yesterday after work helping one of my clients look for a cheaper apartment so he can save money and be closer to better resources…how much time did YOU spend yesterday helping someone out, JR?

I remember one time you accused me of “marrying money”…after I had the laugh of my life, I wondered why you’d believe you have some special insight into people’s lives…and I think it’s called narcissism.

Well,

My comment that you posted is from another thread Mary.

It’s a bit out of context here.

And on that other thread I did not say you were a bad person. Though you seem here and elsewhere to find fault with me.

In fact I think you are a very good person.

But I find you like many who favor Obama. You have “made it”. And like Obama, you seem to find fault or forget those who have not. At least in some ways.

It is Obama’s own words turned me against him. And it is his own words that push me further from him every day. He’s not a fighter because he doesn’t have to fight for anything.

MY take is he doesn’t have to beat them. That’s why he doesn’t want to. Has he joined them I don’t know.

“People are Policy” it has been said. You can tell what kind of President someone will make by the people who have advised them and worked with them their entire lives, and by who those people appoint to policy positions.

Association DOES matter, especially for someone with a very short resume’, like Obama.

Obama did not simply “know” Rezko, Farrakhan, Wright and Ayers —

Obama had business dealings with Rezko, Obama went to Farrakhan’s “Million Man March” after helping Farrakhan organize it, Obama went to nutty Pastor Wright’s church for 20 years and gave that Churc $22,500.00 in 2006, alone, and Obama worked on policy issues with terrorist Ayers!

Obama claims that he can “work with” all sides of an issue and get results.

Those who want NO terrorism at all, on United States soil, think we should do whatever it takes to fight terrorism.

Obama wants to “compromise” with terrorists.

I guess Obama would ask OBL to only take one of the “Twin Towers” and not both of them?

Well, what EXACTLY do you get, when you say that you can bring all sides, of EVERY debate, together and work on “compromise”????

Obama has NEVER shown the ability to forge legislation, not in Illinois, not in Washington DC.

The ONLY talents Obama has seem to be his speaking ability, and his ability to find very radical friends!