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This is a win-win for McCain. Denounce the ad in the “strongest terms” but the ad still airs (and still influences people against Obama).

Score one for the McCaininator.

Ask the Dems how much control they had over Florida and Michigan’s primary schedule . . .

cha-ching!

:D

Hmmm…the wannabe Commander-in-Chief cannot command nor is he respected by his peers.

Time for some S&L ads for McCain/Keating5

Democrats have a pretty good McCain ad. The Democrats problem is there is just so much to criticize madman McCain about.

https://www.democrats.org/page/contribute/fundTheAd

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bth
Posted April 24, 2008 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

Wasn’t there some sort of explosion he was involved in on an aircraft carrier? How many died in that?
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Yeah Ben, but McCain’s plain was the recipient of the misfired zuni rocket. In Lib words, he was the ‘victim.’

Here’s an original video and explanation of it.

http://www.hosla.com/index.cfm?method=watch_video&watchvideo=chuiyXQKw3I

But a nice try Ben to try and discredit an honorable man serving his country.

Swiftboating. Is that what they call it when Republicans use the words of a Democrat against them. Thought so. Hilly has tried to do it too but her Bosnia Sniper Fire Story kinda got in the road.

The Swift Boat advertising was accurate and necessary.
John Kerry was a complete fraud.
Can anyone deny that John Kerry’s radical work AGAINST the Vietnam War was far more important, in history, then the short about of time that Kerry spent in Vietnam?
Do any of you claim that John Kerry actually Spent a “Christmas in Cambodia” while Nixon was President?
Kerry was caught in several lies.

Kerry also received less than an honorable discharge, from the Navy. Kerry later had that Discharge upgraded under the Jimmy Carter Amnesty Program.

Navy Secretary Claytor was involved in Kerry’s discharge. Kerry told us that, on his own web page! However, Claytor was not Navy Secretary until Carter was President, which was several years AFTER Kerry’s original discharge. The ONLY reason Claytor would be involved? A “Board of Officers” was called, under Carter’s Amnesty Program, to upgrade Kerry’s less-than-honorable discharge! There is NO other reason Claytor would be involved!
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Anyway, the most dishonest think Kerry did was to run as some kind of “war hero” — If Kerry had been honest, he would have run as a Veteran Against the War.

Kerry did not have the courage to be honest about his past.

The Swift Boat Veterans had to do what they did, since Kerry would not tell the truth.

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

It’s no wonder McCain hates veterans.

M-P – I LOVE IT! Lets hope we see a lot of that over the next 7 months.

Valid point sol. However I hope he DOES strike back – with a vengeance.

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Fiore_Buccieri
Posted April 24, 2008 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

“But a nice try Ben to try and discredit an honorable man serving his country.”

Oh, yes, the same honorable man who partnered with Ted Kennedy in putting together the illegal alien amnesty bill.
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Can’t say I don’t disagree with you on that matter Fiore.

However, stupid political games, does not make a person dishonorable – just makes them momentarily stupid.

Besides, McCain admits his mistake on that particular bill.

“an honorable man serving his country.”

Regular – in my opinion that could apply to BOTH VietNam Vets McCain an Kerry. The Republicans have established “rules of engagement” that allow for discrediting such veterans. McCain carries tha mantle of that Party.

[sarcasm]

Of course the Republicans started this Ben!

It isn’t like the Democrats attacked Bush’s National Guard service over and over and over again in 2000.

They would never have done that….

[sarcasm]

Oh wait, thats right, in politics both parties have been scrutinizing each others records whether they are Veterans or not.

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CapnAmerica
Posted April 24, 2008 at 11:10 pm | Permalink

Listen to Reguliar–”But a nice try Ben to try and discredit an honorable man serving his country.”

Discredit an honorable man serving his country . . . hmmmm . . . that reminds of something . . . what does it remind me of . . . discredit an honorable man serving his country.

Now I remember, John Kerry, silver star, bronze star with V for valor, three purple hearts

We learned from that, CONs, we learned a good f***ing lesson from you.

This time YOU get the Swiftboat Ads.
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Yeah, Kerry got those in (cough) about three months time.

Besides, Kerry symbolically threw his medals away. He wanted nothing to do with them.

Why should you hold them up as an iconic symbol when Kerry is the one who threw them away?

Capn, you still do NOT get it do you?

Many of us do not fault Kerry’s actual service, at all. I make note of the fact that Kerry never spent the night in a hospital, and further note of the fact that those who served, with Kerry, doubt Kerry’s account of events, and the fact that Kerry, himself, tossed out his medals in a protest.

(Therefore, most of us have shown more respect, towards Kerry’s medals, than has Kerry, himself!)

I also make note of the fact that Kerry did LIE about being in Cambodia, over Christmas, under Richard Nixon’s term in office.

I do not think that Kerry served much time under Nixon, at all, for starters, lol!

And of course, Kerry never was in Cambodia.

Anyway, it is what Kerry did, when Kerry got HOME, that bothers me the most.

Kerry received a less than honorable discharge from the Naval Reserve. That discharge was later upgraded under the Jimmy Carter Amnesty program.

Who are you to talk about lies paulie?

My GOD it is your stock and trade.

You LIVE on lying to people.

You sell them insurance and deny claims.

Oh truly you are the most despicable personage here.

If you did not exist I’d have to invent you.

Kerry was NEVER sent to Cambodia.

You prove that one Paul. As you know; all details of the cross-border operations were classified.

Frank the Shill writes, “those who served, with Kerry, doubt Kerry’s account of events.”

Totally and utterly false, but that won’t stop them from saying it.

When the Swiftboat Liars say “I served with John Kerry in Vietnam,” it simply means they were somewhere in country at roughly the same time he was.

They didn’t know him from Adam. He was just another sailor on a boat at the time.

The ones who did know him have nothing but good to say about him–like Rasmussen, the Republican who maintains to this day that Kerry saved his life under fire.

The Democrats were not as vicious in their attacks against Bush, yes.

Too bad.

He deserved it for cocaine use and going AWOL.

Kerry didn’t.

CapnAmerica,

You just don’t see how absurd you are being do you?

On one foot you complain about the attacks on Kerry, then you turn around on the other foot and say that Bush deserved the attacks on him!

Well guess what goofball? There are plenty of us who thought Kerry deserved it too!

Paul – have you personally talked with any veterans about their experiences in cambodia? That is REAL.

Ben
John Kerry lied. There is no way to get around that:

“In today’s Minneapolis Star Tribune, Strib editorial board member Jim Boyd writes that our analysis of John Kerry’s Christmas in Cambodia fable was “fraudulent.” He also calls us “smear artists,” and the Strib’s headline on his article says our analysis “can’t stand up to the facts.” When someone uses language that strong, you’d naturally expect him to have the facts to back up his words. Yet, for someone who purports to “fact-check” our article, Boyd’s tirade is remarkably fact-free.

First, the basics. We wrote that the Kerry campaign has had to retract Kerry’s oft-told tale of being in Cambodia on Christmas, 1968. Boyd does not dispute this. We wrote that there is no record of John Kerry being in Cambodia in December, 1968, or at any other time. Boyd does not dispute this. We wrote that Kerry’s commanding officers have emphatically denied that he was ever sent into Cambodia. Boyd does not dispute this. We wrote that not a single crewman who ever served with Kerry has supported Kerry’s claim to have been in Cambodia, and several crewmen have specifically denied that their boat was ever, at any time, in Cambodia. Boyd does not dispute this. We wrote that there is no record of Swift boats being used for clandestine missions, like the insertion of special ops, as claimed by Kerry. Boyd does not dispute this. We wrote that Swift boats were singularly unsuited for such secret missions, given their large size and extraordinarily large output of noise. Boyd does not dispute this.”

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/007565.php

“In an October 14, 1979 review of “Apocalypse Now” in the Boston Herald, Kerry wrote:

I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real.
If Kerry’s Cambodian adventure actually happened in January, why were the South Vietnamese soldiers still celebrating Christmas?

We pointed out that, as everyone in the blogosphere knows, Kerry’s account was false on its face, since Richard Nixon was not President in December 1968. In a laughably inept response, Boyd says that Nixon was then President-elect, so Kerry’s “discrepancy” was “understandable.” Obviously, however, President-elect Nixon was in no position to assure the American people that there were no troops in Cambodia.

There is a far more important point to be made, however. It was not just a slip of the tongue that caused Kerry to refer, repeatedly, to President Nixon’s statement that there were no troops in Cambodia. If he had attributed that statement to Lyndon Johnson, who was President in 1968, it would have made no sense. Johnson never said such a thing; the issue never came up during his administration.

But Richard Nixon did say that there were no American troops fighting in Cambodia. Our younger readers may not recall this, but Nixon’s statement to that effect was very famous, and very controversial. Richard Nixon said that we had no troops in Cambodia in a press conference on November 12, 1971, two and one-half years after Kerry had left Vietnam.”

And Paul – my friends also talked about being shot at by ARVNs.