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	<title>Comments on: Roberts failed at oversight, Wilson says</title>
	<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/</link>
	<description>The Wichita Eagle Editorial Department Blog</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 20:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Loans News Aggregator &#187; Comment on Roberts failed at oversight, Wilson says by Faxless &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-346971</link>
		<dc:creator>Loans News Aggregator &#187; Comment on Roberts failed at oversight, Wilson says by Faxless &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 22:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Faxless Payday Loans</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-346931</link>
		<dc:creator>Faxless Payday Loans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 19:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-346931</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Faxless Payday Loans...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: Employment In Iraq</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-342320</link>
		<dc:creator>Employment In Iraq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 06:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-342320</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Employment In Iraq...&lt;/strong&gt;

There is only one thing infamous in love, and that is a falsehood. ~ Paul Bourget...</description>
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<p>There is only one thing infamous in love, and that is a falsehood. ~ Paul Bourget&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lindainks55</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337514</link>
		<dc:creator>lindainks55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337514</guid>
		<description>I don’t even know where to begin, so I don’t even think I’ll try. RedHawk
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Followed by MANY words.  Sure glad you didn't "try."  You couldn't use enough words to make Roberts not guilty of exactly what he is charged with -- he failed his duty to exercise prompt oversight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t even know where to begin, so I don’t even think I’ll try. RedHawk<br />
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<p>Followed by MANY words.  Sure glad you didn&#8217;t &#8220;try.&#8221;  You couldn&#8217;t use enough words to make Roberts not guilty of exactly what he is charged with &#8212; he failed his duty to exercise prompt oversight.</p>
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337360</link>
		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337360</guid>
		<description>Roberts was the Chairman with a repub. majority, add to that he was calling for increased scrutiny/punishment for leaks, well I mean for leaks that didn't come from his side of the aisle or from the administration.
He played bush's defense team, now it catches up with him. Have no mercy (he wouldn't have).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roberts was the Chairman with a repub. majority, add to that he was calling for increased scrutiny/punishment for leaks, well I mean for leaks that didn&#8217;t come from his side of the aisle or from the administration.<br />
He played bush&#8217;s defense team, now it catches up with him. Have no mercy (he wouldn&#8217;t have).</p>
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		<title>By: RedHawk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337292</link>
		<dc:creator>RedHawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337292</guid>
		<description>I don't even know where to begin, so I don't even think I'll try. I learned long ago that it is useless trying to argue with conspiracy-minded individuals such as most of the bloggers on here today. What do you people think? That former-Marine Roberts woke up one morning and said "I think I'm going to get a bunch of my comrades killed today"? If so, you need to go stick your head in a cold bucket of water and re-group.  There is one part of the American political system you are so conveniently forgetting in your finger pointing--that while Senator Roberts was chair of the committee, there was a vice chair too who was *Gasp* a Democrat! As someone stated earlier-a limited number of officials had the classified information and half of those officials were dems.  If this is all as horrible, corrupt, and evil as everyone on here is suggesting, how did those high-powered dems not notice it or do anything at the time? How convenient that it is all resurfacing NOW--an election year just days before Slattery (finally) formally decides to run. Let's paint Senator Roberts--who has been working for Kansans and has proved himself to be a noble and hard-working Senator, regardless of what you conspiracy hacks say--as next to kin of the devil. I guess that's to try to get the Kansans who will absolutely hate recent liberal lobbyist Slattery to see him as the lesser of the two evils? As a proud Kansan, I know that we are smarter than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t even know where to begin, so I don&#8217;t even think I&#8217;ll try. I learned long ago that it is useless trying to argue with conspiracy-minded individuals such as most of the bloggers on here today. What do you people think? That former-Marine Roberts woke up one morning and said &#8220;I think I&#8217;m going to get a bunch of my comrades killed today&#8221;? If so, you need to go stick your head in a cold bucket of water and re-group.  There is one part of the American political system you are so conveniently forgetting in your finger pointing&#8211;that while Senator Roberts was chair of the committee, there was a vice chair too who was *Gasp* a Democrat! As someone stated earlier-a limited number of officials had the classified information and half of those officials were dems.  If this is all as horrible, corrupt, and evil as everyone on here is suggesting, how did those high-powered dems not notice it or do anything at the time? How convenient that it is all resurfacing NOW&#8211;an election year just days before Slattery (finally) formally decides to run. Let&#8217;s paint Senator Roberts&#8211;who has been working for Kansans and has proved himself to be a noble and hard-working Senator, regardless of what you conspiracy hacks say&#8211;as next to kin of the devil. I guess that&#8217;s to try to get the Kansans who will absolutely hate recent liberal lobbyist Slattery to see him as the lesser of the two evils? As a proud Kansan, I know that we are smarter than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337131</link>
		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337131</guid>
		<description>Roberts, take a clue from many of your compatriots,and do one honorable thing, announce you'll not be running for re-election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roberts, take a clue from many of your compatriots,and do one honorable thing, announce you&#8217;ll not be running for re-election.</p>
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337118</link>
		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337118</guid>
		<description>Roberts should have called for an immediate investigation, and damage assessment from the outing, instead of playing partisan politics with the matter
 An honorable person would have put his country and those that work to protect it first and foremost above politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roberts should have called for an immediate investigation, and damage assessment from the outing, instead of playing partisan politics with the matter<br />
 An honorable person would have put his country and those that work to protect it first and foremost above politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337107</link>
		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337107</guid>
		<description>David
So, when a government official claims that you broke the law, that is all we need?

The defininitions and classifications that the CIA uses are not at all important, in a criminal case.

The people who WROTE the law, protecting CIA agents' identities, say that the law THEY WROTE was NOT violated in the Plame case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David<br />
So, when a government official claims that you broke the law, that is all we need?</p>
<p>The defininitions and classifications that the CIA uses are not at all important, in a criminal case.</p>
<p>The people who WROTE the law, protecting CIA agents&#8217; identities, say that the law THEY WROTE was NOT violated in the Plame case.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337105</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337105</guid>
		<description>Obtuse! LOL!
I demonstrate a lack of intelligence ... yeah, I am sure you are right. I am not very bright.

Thank you for sweetening my day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obtuse! LOL!<br />
I demonstrate a lack of intelligence &#8230; yeah, I am sure you are right. I am not very bright.</p>
<p>Thank you for sweetening my day.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337099</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337099</guid>
		<description>LIke I say.. deny the truth all you want. If the CIA calls an agent covert, I think they may probably be covert.

If you say a covert CIA agent is not covert... you can twiddle all the words you want... 

Some accuse liberals of making morality 'relative'. I say making the truth relative far more dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LIke I say.. deny the truth all you want. If the CIA calls an agent covert, I think they may probably be covert.</p>
<p>If you say a covert CIA agent is not covert&#8230; you can twiddle all the words you want&#8230; </p>
<p>Some accuse liberals of making morality &#8216;relative&#8217;. I say making the truth relative far more dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337097</link>
		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337097</guid>
		<description>David
Slattery would be wise to stay away from the liars Wilson and Plame.

Those two have NO credibility at all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David<br />
Slattery would be wise to stay away from the liars Wilson and Plame.</p>
<p>Those two have NO credibility at all!</p>
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		<title>By: kansasdem</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337096</link>
		<dc:creator>kansasdem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337096</guid>
		<description>Both Roberts and Brownback have opened the door for two new Democratic senators.  Roberts is a shining example of non-feasance when he chaired the Senate Intel Committee.  Yahoo Brownback has associated himself with an anti-Catholilc bigot.  And both were complicit in shipping thousands of Boeing jobs out of Wichita to France.  Amazing.  Kansas, a Republican state, with one Blue county out of 105, now has a Democratic governor, a Democratic Lt. Gov., a Democratic AG, and TWO! Democratic members of Congress.  Soon to have TWO Democratic United States Senators?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both Roberts and Brownback have opened the door for two new Democratic senators.  Roberts is a shining example of non-feasance when he chaired the Senate Intel Committee.  Yahoo Brownback has associated himself with an anti-Catholilc bigot.  And both were complicit in shipping thousands of Boeing jobs out of Wichita to France.  Amazing.  Kansas, a Republican state, with one Blue county out of 105, now has a Democratic governor, a Democratic Lt. Gov., a Democratic AG, and TWO! Democratic members of Congress.  Soon to have TWO Democratic United States Senators?</p>
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		<title>By: DavidB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337094</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337094</guid>
		<description>Next Tuesday, a Kansan will announce his intention to run against and defeat Sen. Roberts.

Let's hope Roberts will get swept away with the rest of the Republicans who have failed us these past eight years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next Tuesday, a Kansan will announce his intention to run against and defeat Sen. Roberts.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope Roberts will get swept away with the rest of the Republicans who have failed us these past eight years.</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337093</link>
		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337093</guid>
		<description>David
You are being intentionally obtuse.

What the CIA says does NOT matter!

The LAW in question has specific requirements. Those legal requirements stand alone, the CIA "status" does not matter.

The CIA has no authority to determine if any law was brokent.

Plame was NOT outside the United States in the 5 years prior to the Novak column.

Beyond that, in order to violate the law in question, you must KNOW that you are violating the law. 

Hard to prove, when dealing with a desk-job employee who has such a high profile husband!

Again, the entire Plame thing is a FARCE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David<br />
You are being intentionally obtuse.</p>
<p>What the CIA says does NOT matter!</p>
<p>The LAW in question has specific requirements. Those legal requirements stand alone, the CIA &#8220;status&#8221; does not matter.</p>
<p>The CIA has no authority to determine if any law was brokent.</p>
<p>Plame was NOT outside the United States in the 5 years prior to the Novak column.</p>
<p>Beyond that, in order to violate the law in question, you must KNOW that you are violating the law. </p>
<p>Hard to prove, when dealing with a desk-job employee who has such a high profile husband!</p>
<p>Again, the entire Plame thing is a FARCE!</p>
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		<title>By: bth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337092</link>
		<dc:creator>bth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337092</guid>
		<description>RussP.us is a liar and a grand standing political hack and publicity hound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RussP.us is a liar and a grand standing political hack and publicity hound.</p>
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		<title>By: bth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337091</link>
		<dc:creator>bth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337091</guid>
		<description>Pat Roberts is a liar and a grand standing political hack and publicity hound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat Roberts is a liar and a grand standing political hack and publicity hound.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337089</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337089</guid>
		<description>What part of the meaning of "truth" do you guys not understand? 

Testimony Of Rep. Henry Waxman:
"Ms. Wilson was a covert employee of the CIA. We cannot discuss all of the details of her CIA employment in open session. 

I have met with General Hayden, the head of the CIA, to discuss what I can and cannot say  about Ms. Wilson's service....  I have been advised by the CIA that even now, after all that has happened, I cannot disclose the full nafure, scope, and character of Ms. Wilson's service to our nation without causing serious damage to our national security interests. 

But General Hayden and the CIA have cleared these following comments for today's hearing. 

During her employment at the CIA, Ms. Wilson was under cover. 
Her employment status with the CIA was classified information prohibited from disclosure under Executive Order 12958. 
At the time of the publication of Robert Novak's column on July 14,2003, Ms. Wilson's CIA employment status was covert."

Source: http://oversight.house.gov/Documents/20070316104030-43341.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What part of the meaning of &#8220;truth&#8221; do you guys not understand? </p>
<p>Testimony Of Rep. Henry Waxman:<br />
&#8220;Ms. Wilson was a covert employee of the CIA. We cannot discuss all of the details of her CIA employment in open session. </p>
<p>I have met with General Hayden, the head of the CIA, to discuss what I can and cannot say  about Ms. Wilson&#8217;s service&#8230;.  I have been advised by the CIA that even now, after all that has happened, I cannot disclose the full nafure, scope, and character of Ms. Wilson&#8217;s service to our nation without causing serious damage to our national security interests. </p>
<p>But General Hayden and the CIA have cleared these following comments for today&#8217;s hearing. </p>
<p>During her employment at the CIA, Ms. Wilson was under cover.<br />
Her employment status with the CIA was classified information prohibited from disclosure under Executive Order 12958.<br />
At the time of the publication of Robert Novak&#8217;s column on July 14,2003, Ms. Wilson&#8217;s CIA employment status was covert.&#8221;</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://oversight.house.gov/Documents/20070316104030-43341.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://oversight.house.gov/Documents/20070316104030-43341.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337076</link>
		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337076</guid>
		<description>Six Reasons Why the Plame Episode is a Farce:

http://russp.us/Plame.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Six Reasons Why the Plame Episode is a Farce:</p>
<p><a href="http://russp.us/Plame.htm" rel="nofollow">http://russp.us/Plame.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337075</link>
		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337075</guid>
		<description>"Bush's adversaries quickly concluded that he or someone close to him had illegally "outed" Plame in retribution for her husband's editorial, and thus a "scandal" was born. Many of them demanded that Karl Rove, the President's close advisor and an early suspect in the case, be fired immediately. Many more speculated and hoped that the "leak" would ultimately bring Bush down in classic Watergate style.

President Bush appointed a Special Prosecutor to investigate the matter, and thus began one of the most ridiculous episodes in American history. The original conspiracy theory was absurd on its face and has been debunked, but the "mainstream" media has kept most of the American public ignorant of several absurdities that have permeated this case from start to finish. For at least six reasons, the Plame episode was and is a farce.

Reason #1: Plame was not a covert agent when the "leak" occurred
The "mainstream" media routinely refer to Plame as a former "covert" or "undercover" agent, but they almost always conveniently neglect to mention that she had not been one for several years prior to the so-called "leak." When the "leak" occurred, Plame was working openly at a desk job at CIA headquarters and had been for over five years. Whether or not she was "officially" categorized as covert by the CIA bureaucracy is essentially irrelevant.

Common sense suggests that once an agent works regularly at CIA headquarters, the agent is no longer useful for long-term, high-priority covert work. The law that was supposedly broken sets the threshold at five years, and Plame had exceeded that threshold for not working an extended undercover assignment in a foreign country. Hence, the law about "outing" a covert agent simply did not apply.

The law also requires that the leak be intentional, which is very difficult to prove under any circumstances. When the "outed" agent had been working openly at a desk job at CIA headquarters for several years prior to the "outing," malicious intent is almost impossible to prove. And when the agent is married to a high-visibility public figure, forget about it.

Victoria Toensing and Bruce W. Sanford wrote in the Washington Post:

"As two people who drafted and negotiated the scope of the 1982 Intelligence Identities Protection Act, we can tell you: The Novak column and the surrounding facts do not support evidence of criminal conduct."

http://russp.us/Plame.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bush&#8217;s adversaries quickly concluded that he or someone close to him had illegally &#8220;outed&#8221; Plame in retribution for her husband&#8217;s editorial, and thus a &#8220;scandal&#8221; was born. Many of them demanded that Karl Rove, the President&#8217;s close advisor and an early suspect in the case, be fired immediately. Many more speculated and hoped that the &#8220;leak&#8221; would ultimately bring Bush down in classic Watergate style.</p>
<p>President Bush appointed a Special Prosecutor to investigate the matter, and thus began one of the most ridiculous episodes in American history. The original conspiracy theory was absurd on its face and has been debunked, but the &#8220;mainstream&#8221; media has kept most of the American public ignorant of several absurdities that have permeated this case from start to finish. For at least six reasons, the Plame episode was and is a farce.</p>
<p>Reason #1: Plame was not a covert agent when the &#8220;leak&#8221; occurred<br />
The &#8220;mainstream&#8221; media routinely refer to Plame as a former &#8220;covert&#8221; or &#8220;undercover&#8221; agent, but they almost always conveniently neglect to mention that she had not been one for several years prior to the so-called &#8220;leak.&#8221; When the &#8220;leak&#8221; occurred, Plame was working openly at a desk job at CIA headquarters and had been for over five years. Whether or not she was &#8220;officially&#8221; categorized as covert by the CIA bureaucracy is essentially irrelevant.</p>
<p>Common sense suggests that once an agent works regularly at CIA headquarters, the agent is no longer useful for long-term, high-priority covert work. The law that was supposedly broken sets the threshold at five years, and Plame had exceeded that threshold for not working an extended undercover assignment in a foreign country. Hence, the law about &#8220;outing&#8221; a covert agent simply did not apply.</p>
<p>The law also requires that the leak be intentional, which is very difficult to prove under any circumstances. When the &#8220;outed&#8221; agent had been working openly at a desk job at CIA headquarters for several years prior to the &#8220;outing,&#8221; malicious intent is almost impossible to prove. And when the agent is married to a high-visibility public figure, forget about it.</p>
<p>Victoria Toensing and Bruce W. Sanford wrote in the Washington Post:</p>
<p>&#8220;As two people who drafted and negotiated the scope of the 1982 Intelligence Identities Protection Act, we can tell you: The Novak column and the surrounding facts do not support evidence of criminal conduct.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://russp.us/Plame.htm" rel="nofollow">http://russp.us/Plame.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337070</link>
		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337070</guid>
		<description>Valerie Plame is a liar and a grand standing political hack and publicity hound.
Joe Wilson, her husband, is a liar and a grand standing political hack and publicity hound.

The entire legal case against Libby should have been dropped:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/16/AR2007021601705_pf.html

Joe Wilson admitted, in a Senate Hearing, that he LIED in his Op-Ed piece! There is no way that Joe Wilson could possibly know about the "forged documents" he mentioned in his Op-Ed, prior to the time that Wilson gave his oral (not written, another Wilson lie) "report" to the CIA upon his return from Niger.

Plame was NOT "undercover" --- the CIA saying Plame was "undercover" is like the police chief saying that a police shooting was justified prior to an investagation of the matter.

The CIA does NOT have the power to bring criminal charges against anyone. The CIA does not have the authority, even, to give a legal opinion on the matter.

NO ONE was charged with "outing" Plame. 

Those who claim that Plame was "outed" have absolutely nothing to back that up, other than non-binding, non-controlling opinions of non-qualified public officials.

Again, the CIA is NOT qualified to determine if a criminal law was violated.

The case was referred to a competent legal authority, the Independent Prosecutor. The Independent Prosecutor never charged ANYONE with "outing" Plame.

Besides, a very good case can be made that Joe Wilson "outed" his wife, Plame! (But she was not covert, anyway, she had not been outside the United States in the 5 years prior to the Novak story so she was NOT covered by the law in question.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valerie Plame is a liar and a grand standing political hack and publicity hound.<br />
Joe Wilson, her husband, is a liar and a grand standing political hack and publicity hound.</p>
<p>The entire legal case against Libby should have been dropped:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/16/AR2007021601705_pf.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/16/AR2007021601705_pf.html</a></p>
<p>Joe Wilson admitted, in a Senate Hearing, that he LIED in his Op-Ed piece! There is no way that Joe Wilson could possibly know about the &#8220;forged documents&#8221; he mentioned in his Op-Ed, prior to the time that Wilson gave his oral (not written, another Wilson lie) &#8220;report&#8221; to the CIA upon his return from Niger.</p>
<p>Plame was NOT &#8220;undercover&#8221; &#8212; the CIA saying Plame was &#8220;undercover&#8221; is like the police chief saying that a police shooting was justified prior to an investagation of the matter.</p>
<p>The CIA does NOT have the power to bring criminal charges against anyone. The CIA does not have the authority, even, to give a legal opinion on the matter.</p>
<p>NO ONE was charged with &#8220;outing&#8221; Plame. </p>
<p>Those who claim that Plame was &#8220;outed&#8221; have absolutely nothing to back that up, other than non-binding, non-controlling opinions of non-qualified public officials.</p>
<p>Again, the CIA is NOT qualified to determine if a criminal law was violated.</p>
<p>The case was referred to a competent legal authority, the Independent Prosecutor. The Independent Prosecutor never charged ANYONE with &#8220;outing&#8221; Plame.</p>
<p>Besides, a very good case can be made that Joe Wilson &#8220;outed&#8221; his wife, Plame! (But she was not covert, anyway, she had not been outside the United States in the 5 years prior to the Novak story so she was NOT covered by the law in question.)</p>
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		<title>By: SolDevVB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337034</link>
		<dc:creator>SolDevVB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337034</guid>
		<description>Speaking of oversight, how many billions have been ‘lost’ in Iraq? Unaccounted for. How about weapons? How many have been 'lost'?

This administration seems to think that it is accountable to no one. Time to shorten the leash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of oversight, how many billions have been ‘lost’ in Iraq? Unaccounted for. How about weapons? How many have been &#8216;lost&#8217;?</p>
<p>This administration seems to think that it is accountable to no one. Time to shorten the leash.</p>
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		<title>By: Predestined</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337025</link>
		<dc:creator>Predestined</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337025</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;...double dipping the federal payroll with her husband another CIA employee...&lt;/i&gt;

Double dipping, Jwink??

So if I and my (imaginary) husband are working for the same company...say the USPS (he's a carrier &#38; I work in the REC)...we're double dipping?

Do you have a photo of Reagan on the wall and have regular worship services?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;double dipping the federal payroll with her husband another CIA employee&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Double dipping, Jwink??</p>
<p>So if I and my (imaginary) husband are working for the same company&#8230;say the USPS (he&#8217;s a carrier &amp; I work in the REC)&#8230;we&#8217;re double dipping?</p>
<p>Do you have a photo of Reagan on the wall and have regular worship services?</p>
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		<title>By: gster</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337019</link>
		<dc:creator>gster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337019</guid>
		<description>Pat Roberts repeatedly used his position as Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee to stall, delay, prevent releasing the various reports he promised to deliver regarding the Iraq War. He put his party ahead of his country to prevent the general publics right to have access to this information and  the conclusions reached by the professionals.

Pat Roberts is a sneasel, a combination snake/weasel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat Roberts repeatedly used his position as Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee to stall, delay, prevent releasing the various reports he promised to deliver regarding the Iraq War. He put his party ahead of his country to prevent the general publics right to have access to this information and  the conclusions reached by the professionals.</p>
<p>Pat Roberts is a sneasel, a combination snake/weasel.</p>
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337018</link>
		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/roberts-failed-at-oversight-wilson-says/#comment-337018</guid>
		<description>Ol' Partisan Pat's chickens are coming home to roost. He thought he could evade them  by resigning from the Senate Intel. committee, but they're still following him home!
He's given Kansas another black eye in the annals of history. He is our shame and embarrassment.
An example of 'What's The Matter with Kansas' is that they will vote for Roberts, Brownback and McCain even though McCain proposed legislation making it possible for Airbus to walk away with the contract, and Roberts and Brownback put their stamp of approval on it.
For those who didn't catch it, I posted an article under Tiahrt Tanker late last night showing why Boeing should have gotten the award.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ol&#8217; Partisan Pat&#8217;s chickens are coming home to roost. He thought he could evade them  by resigning from the Senate Intel. committee, but they&#8217;re still following him home!<br />
He&#8217;s given Kansas another black eye in the annals of history. He is our shame and embarrassment.<br />
An example of &#8216;What&#8217;s The Matter with Kansas&#8217; is that they will vote for Roberts, Brownback and McCain even though McCain proposed legislation making it possible for Airbus to walk away with the contract, and Roberts and Brownback put their stamp of approval on it.<br />
For those who didn&#8217;t catch it, I posted an article under Tiahrt Tanker late last night showing why Boeing should have gotten the award.</p>
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