Here’s an interesting Politico piece by Roger Simon looking at a largely unexamined but undeniable part of the primary demographic: the racist vote.
What percentage of voters are likely to vote against Barack Obama simply because he’s African-American?
In a recent AP-Yahoo poll, notes Simon, about 8 percent of white respondents said they’d be “uncomfortable†voting for a black candidate for president. But those are only the people willing to admit racism to a pollster. He cites a political analyst who guesses that the actual figure is closer to 15 percent.
That may or may not be a decisive swing vote, either in the primaries or general election, but it can’t be ignored, either.
As for Pennsylvania, Greg Mitchell of Editor and Publisher thinks the racist vote gave Hillary Clinton her comfortable margin. He cites a New York Times analysis of the exit polls: “Sixteen percent of white voters said race mattered in deciding who they voted for, and just 54 percent of those voters said they would support Mr. Obama in a general election; 27 percent of them said they would vote for Mr. McCain if Mr. Obama was the Democratic nominee, and 16 percent said they would not vote at all.â€
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Good morning Randy!
Is it just me, or is the implied racism directed toward the republicans? It’s obvious that the racism is on the democratic side!
First of all I deny your premise. Of course there is some racism involved but it’s probably a wash. For every white that won’t vote for Obama because of color there is probably a black or two that will not vote for Hillary because of race. (Philadelphia)
Then, let’s don’t forget the gender factor. How many big strong democrat men voted for ‘any-one-but-the-girl?
Nope, as a republican I refuse to be painted with your liberal, democrat, race brush. 95% of blacks that are registered are black. A democrat can not win a national election with less than 85% of the black vote. You liberals have been cultivating the black vote for 40 years with your false promises and out and out lies. Don’t cry now if the harvest is going bad.
Good morning, Hank.
“95% of blacks that are registered are black.”
I think 100% of blacks that are registered are black. Did you mean 95% of blacks that are registered are Democrats?
Most racist are already Republicans anyway. They did not vote for Gore and did not vote for Kerry and probably not for Bubba either. The Republican Party is tailor made for racist. Why do you think so many whites in the south now belong to it? So while there is a racist vote, Obama can still win. There are enough of us that are not trailer park trash that will vote for him in November.
“False promises and out and out lies”? What in the world are you possibly talking about? Do you really think that African-American voters are so gullible - especially over 40 years of Presidents and elections - as to not be able to figure out which political party best represents their economic interests, and best promotes their equal justice goals? It certainly isn’t the Republican Party which believes that the extremely wealthy and the oil companiies deserve/need more tax cuts, and it most certainly WAS the Republican-controlled Congress and White House which stifled for 6 years the repeal of the racially-discriminatory federal sentencing guidelines for possession of crack cocaine vs. powder cocaine. And the list goes on and on and on . . .
HLP exactly!
If there is racism with some whites towards Obama because he is black, there is at least as much favoritism based on race with blacks voting for Obama because he IS black, and for NO other reason. Same applies with Hillary and the men’s and women’s votes. So what, it’s their vote.
Why wasn’t your blog topic instead on the racist aspect of blacks overwhelmingly voting for Obama and his socialist political voting record simply because he is black, and in spite of his lack of other qualifications for the office? Hum?
Thanks for the correction Hud!
Sometimes I think that at least 70% of all statistics are made up!
So tell me Kelly,
How has the plight of the black man improved after 40 years of the democratic party pandering to them?
In answer to your question, I think the democratic party is absolutely the worst thing that possibly could have happened to the blacks.
Look what the liberal NEA has done to inner city schools. The worst schools in the country are in cities that are controlled by liberal democrats.
Crack cocaine vs powder cocaine? Who controlled congress when those laws were enacted? Johnson’s war on poverty has destroyed the black family over the last 40 years.
You ask:
“Do you really think that African-American voters are so gullible - especially over 40 years of Presidents and elections - as to not be able to figure out which political party best represents their economic interests, and best promotes their equal justice goals?”
The answer is obvious Kelly!
From different sources:
Blacks voting democrat and not republican, I’m confused?
The Republicans freed the slaves (Lincoln and the Republican Congress of 1864)
The Republican Party was founded by abolitionist
Democrats fought for slavery
Democrats founded the KKK
Democrats introduced segregation
Democrats fought the against the civil right movement
Republicans supported the civil right movement
Democrat’s senators filibustered civil right legislation
Republicans voted for Civil rights
I can not understand why the black population votes for Democrats when that party does nothing but keep them down. Again, did I mention that the Republican Party got rid of slavery (and lost hundreds of thousands doing so) and that I could not understand why blacks would stick with the Democrats.
The Republican Party has been fighting for civil rights throughout history while Democrats fought against them every step of the way. Blacks were once strong supporters of the Republican Party but were misled into the Democratic Party where they have been in despair ever since. Sure, life was not great for blacks in the late 1800s though the mid 1900s, it wasn’t for a lot of people black or white, but it was getting better and had the Democrats not blocked advancement, the blacks might have reached parity a long time ago living lives today that are not dependent upon the benevolence of government.
Blacks are taken for granted by the Democrats and that they would be better off if they changed parties and espoused the things the Republican Party does. They would not be beholden to government and they would be more self reliant. It is unfortunate that they blindly follow Democrats and have done so to their own detriment.
One day when schools and the Democrats stop embracing revisionist history the blacks in this country will see what party has embraced them and has fought for their civil rights. Perhaps it will take an action by the Democrats that is so egregious the black community can no longer give blind support to their task masters and will embrace the freedom of the Republican Party. Then you will see more qualified candidates running for office and holding positions of prominence.
“Same applies with Hillary and the men’s and women’s votes.” — nic
The Democrats screwed up. The candidate should be Michelle Obama?
Voting against the man because he is black is no worse than voting FOR the man because he is black.
Polls show that black voters who have never registered before are now doing so - just to vote for Obama. When polled, many of these black-only voters said they would not vote in the General for Hillary, should she make it.
Racism works both ways.
Boxlock:
Republicans worked for the Amendment to make anyone born in the U.S. an automatic citizen, no questions asked. You don’t think they really did so out of the goodness of their hearts, do you? Obviously, they were hoping that all of those recently freed slaves who were declared citizens would show their undying appreciation by voting for the party that won the Civil War and freed them, and vote for them for decades upon decades to come.
Guess it was a case of ingratitude responding to naked, blatant self-interest.
Yep Shery,
And the democrats own it!
Boxlock has it right. The democrats have been feeding all this garbage to the blacks that the republicans are the racists. Republicans opened that door for them to prosper without fear, and most did not take advantage of it. So those blacks,they can just blame themselves. The black person I admire the most is J.C. Watts of Oklahoma. I would support him 110% and more if he would get back in to politics in the future. He is a person all colors should look up to on how to be a leader. Come back to us J.C., this country needs you!
Fiore_,
It is a stupid Amendment now, in light of what is happening today with the illegal invasion of our country and the ‘anchor baby’ problem. But they had no way of knowing that would be happening now, and it was not so stupid back then.
As I understand, and certainly believe, the Amendment was passed to insure babies born to blacks in the U.S. would NOT be automatically born into slavery, which was a very commendable motivation in the text of the time. If those babies eventfully voted Republican, big if don’t ya think, so much the better, but I doubt that was the overriding motivation for that action on their part. Remember slavery was an extremely galvanizing subject, so much so it resulted in a horrific loss of life, and the Amendment was doubtly passed simply to add votes.
How come the article only considered how whites are racist? Consider this little nugget:
The Associated Press noted that McCain drew a crowd Monday of about 100 people that “was mostly white, although, as the campaign noted, Selma’s population is 70 percent black.”
Perhaps all the blacks stayed home because McCain is white? There is about as much evidence of that as that Hillary got votes because of white racism.
What is really telling about the articles and the blog entry is that they like to lump people in groups. Apparently your skin color puts you in a certain group and therefore you are “fill in the blank”. Look into your own eyes.
Not once in the article does RS mention Republicans — yet HLP finds it in his infinite paranoia that it some how implies that the gop is racist — not a word about it —– hear read between these lines ———- !!!!!!!
Oh and aren’t you the one the other day that made a statement calling Hillary and Michelle bitches ?
Shame on you —– grow up small man
If you are not rich. And you vote Republican?
You are an idiot. No matter what color you are.
“The Associated Press noted that McCain drew a crowd Monday of about 100 people that “was mostly white, although, as the campaign noted, Selma’s population is 70 percent black.”
Well that’s EASY “proudman”.
That’s the “stupid white man” syndrome.
MILLIONS of white Americans think that if they CALL themselves Republicans, they get to live like Republicans. They vote accordingly and stupidly.
BJ, you’re not rich or Republican but you’re an idiot…what point are you trying to make?
Dear LR2,
If you take the time to read the links in Randy’s post by Roger Simon and Greg Mitchell you will find the source of my ‘infinite paranoia’.
I’m glad you remember my humorous post about bitches and lawyers running for president. It was a joke, nitwit.
“Boxlock”
I don’t think you’re rich. You DO vote Republican, and you are an a%4hole.
And you made my point.
HLP
Sometimes I think that at least 70% of all statistics are made up!
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Statistics dispute that!
I think the point made earlier has been conveniently ignored - and that is that African-Americans are quite capable of deciding for themselves which political party best serves their interests, and no amount of “revisionist” history by modern neocon Republicans trying to claim the mantle of being “the party of President Lincoln” is going to be swallowed by modern voters. The “Southern Democratic” Party is NOT the Democratic Party of today, or the recent past. Oh, and I should add that, in the up-coming presidential election, Latinos will also vote in even larger percentages than in the past for the Democratic Party nominee, rather than for McCain. I suppose the neocons on this thread also know better than the Latinos what is best for them?
BJ,
You have no point….an there is no point to you either. I doubt you can make the distinction though.
Got something against Hispanics Randy Scholfield or do you consider them white as well?
Leave it to duh Libs to leave out the minority that has the largest voter base and population.
TheMick,
There is not a “revisionist” aspect to actual history. The history we’re talking about consists of dates and facts, not your personal beliefs and agendas which isn’t history. Actual history is the Republican party actually doing more for blacks to self-enable them to achieve parity and not ‘feeding’ them false promises of entitlements which have only shackled them. It should be terribly insulting to blacks that the Democrats invariably through their political action in essence are saying “you can’t do it, you need us to provide it for you,, vote for us”.
The arguments of what any political party has done for anyone would make more sense if either party was what they represent themselves as being.
Actually, Obama is having a very hard time attracting Hispanic votes.
I look for Obama and McCain BOTH to look to Hispanics as running mates.
Democrat “welfare” programs kicked the father out of the house.
Poverty is, mostly, the result of single-parent households.
The rest is, of course, HISTORY!
lindainks55,
Amen fella, you are right on with that sentiment!
“The arguments of what any political party has done for anyone would make more sense if either party was what they represent themselves as being.”
Agree.
By the way, if the crack cocaine laws are really “racist” please answer the following:
Is there some chemical or biological reason why White people can not use or will not use crack?
Also, Black neighborhoods, particularly Obama’s Chicago area, are experiencing record gang violence right now.
Since most Black kids, who are murdered, are murdered by another Black kid, and since most Black murderers are involved with the drug trade -
IT WILL SAVE BLACK LIVES TO PUT BLACK CRACK DEALERS IN PRISON!
“Leave it to duh Libs to leave out the minority that has the largest voter base and population.”
Yeah, we dont like to talk much about how black folks and Koreans hate each other, about black and hispanic prejudice against each other, about blacks and jews and muslims.
We dont like to talk about the distain for women in many cultures. And we DAMN sure dont wanna talk about the one thing all these minority cultures agree upon.
They ALL hate gay folks.
I guess everyone needs to feel superior to someone?
Funny how the mcclurkin thing just gets swept under the rug as no big deal. Minority on minority hatred. All you white guys just need to stay on the sidelines and let the minorities kill each other.
After all, it’s so much easier for minorities to do that, instead of seeing their mutual interests in supporting each other.
Fie on all of you. Kill each other, let god sort ‘em out. It sure doesnt matter to MY community.
There are two dynamics in play here.
Now in the primary election, racism is at best a marginal consideration. There are a very few racist Democrats. There is a somewhat larger number of Republicans crossing party lines to screw with the Democrat primary process.
I am a white male and I am opposed to Obama because of what he has said. NOT because of his race. Obama’s worst enemy among Democrats is his own big mouth.
The question of Obama’s electability goes to the general election. THERE racism is more problematic for Obama. Since most racists are Republicans or otherwise ignorant.
Let us not forget that there are no small number of MEN, black and white, who would not vote for a woman for President.
Yeah Junior (aka BlueJay the B.J.),
You have a (D) behind your political affiliation and suddenly without qualification you are not racist.
In fact, you had to state it in a forum just how non-racist you are you were so certain.
Anyone not having a (D) behind their name, has to be racist according to the B.J.
What a maroon
Brainlock - Yours is a very paternalistic attitude: “We know better than you what political party is best for you to support.” The proof is in the pudding. African-Americans will vote in 2008 in huge percentages for the Democratic nominee, and Latinos will vote for the Democratic nominee in much larger percentages (I think 40% of Latinos voted for Bush in 2004) than before. Unlike (they come out of the woodwork every presidential election year) these paternalistic white Republicans, it is not a difficult analysis at all which political party to support. So keep on lecturing minority voters that the modern Republican REALLY cares about them. Actions speak louder than words, and you don’t have any action. You can’t dance either.
“Is it just me, or is the implied racism directed toward the republicans?”
With all due respect, Hank, it’s just you and those who reflexively respond with the conservative(tm) viewpoint to a topic. The concern of racism outlined in the thread header indeed refers primarily to Democrats and indeed to swing voters. The concern is this: There is (hypothetically, and indeed unfortunately probably) a population of people who believe racism is wrong, and who indeed condemn it, but who still respond racially. When asked on surveys, even anonymously, they will deny it, but they will act on it in the privacy of the voting booth. One of the darker (I mean in this case, of course, disturbing) theories about why Barack Obama has generally done better in caucuses than in primaries is that primaries the voting is done anonymously, while in caucuses everyone in the room sees what you do. Thus, hidden racism is a potentially greater factor in primaries than caucuses. Disgusting, but it is a theory held by some political watchers.
Obama is half white. Anybody out there racist enough to vote for him because he’s white?
And historical reality check.
The descendents of the southern segregationist democrats, and indeed most of the surviving southern segregationist democrats, now form the backbone of the Republican dominance of the south. By the same token, the descendents of the northeastern backbone of the Republican party are now northeastern “elitist” liberal Democrats. To argue otherwise is to display historical illiteracy.
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ksagnostic
Posted April 26, 2008 at 10:21 am | Permalink
And historical reality check.
The descendents of the southern segregationist democrats, and indeed most of the surviving southern segregationist democrats, now form the backbone of the Republican dominance of the south. By the same token, the descendents of the northeastern backbone of the Republican party are now northeastern “elitist” liberal Democrats. To argue otherwise is to display historical illiteracy.
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Speaking of historical illiteracy, evidently you haven’t met that many Southern Democrats.
A portion of my relatives live in Georgia and North Carolina, all Democrats.
My Great Aunt was (dead now) was Miss Daisy (of driving Miss Daisy) in real life. She was a multi-millionaire, part of the southern aristocracy. I flinched every time she said the “N” word. Although most of the time, she said a southern accent of it (nigra).
She talked of the “N” part of town, the “N’s” work can be hired to do the manual work for little money and etc.
My North Carolinian relatives (also Democrats) are basically the same way, but weren’t as rich. They talked of black people as if they were treasured pets to be tolerated instead of being human beings and equals.
The Carolinians spoke about Blacks in terms of their great athletic ability, but seldom mentioned them in academia or other endeavors in which they succeeded. Toleration for them was erecting playgrounds and centers in the Black neighborhood. After all, the good white Democrats couldn’t be having the Blacks coming to their fancier, better funded centers where their white kids played.
So ksagnostic, let’s not brand an entire group of people with racism. Racism and intolerance is straight across the board.
Ask any Black what they think about White Democrats. They will answer that White Democrats are clueless for the most part about what it is to be a black man or woman in the United States.
Don’t believe me, just take a listen to Reverend Jeremiah Wright’s recent speech on Hillary Clinton and comparing her to Barak Obama.
(paraphrasing)
Hillary does not know what’s it’s like being called a (N-word.) Hillary does not what it is like to be pulled over while you’re driving down the road, just because you are a black man driving in a white neighborhood.
So Democrats, let’s not get all high and mighty about being non-racist and accusing those on the right of being racists.
The reason and my own opinion why more Blacks are Democrats is directly because of Democratic Party racism.
The Democrats instead of integrating Blacks into society, gave them “blocked precincts” in which the local Blacks could gain power and prestige. This still happens today. The Democrats instead of integrating Blacks into their white good old boy networks, encouraged Blacks to form their own caucuses and organizations, so they could develop a Black power base.
Instead of integrating black men and women and society, the Democratic party has encouraged separate by equal policies by keeping Blacks segregated into their own groups. This way, the Democratic Party could keep an eye on them and minimize their contacts with them by only having access to the Black leaders, not the black people.
The Democratic Party’s “separate but equal policies have fooled a lot of people, including Blacks, for a long time. But it certainly doesn’t fool me.
Of course it’s known that the Republican party is filled with numerous racist. There wouldn’t be a “Southern Strategy” if it didn’t appeal to racists. That’s why Reagan kicked off his campaign appealing to racists, he needed to convince them that he wasn’t one of those Hollywood liberals that tolerates others, but is a good ol’ boy.
First Regular, allow me to point out that I consider your response to me to be non-trollish. Misguided perhaps, but thoughtful and constructing an argument.
I stand by my comments, but I will allow that they are simplified. The fact of the matter is, the American south since the 1970’s has been a Republican stronghold. The northeast, more decades previous, was also a Republican stronghold but by this time was and is considered a Democratic stronghold. One either hypothesizes that there was a total demographic shift, which did not happen, or that there was an evolution in the parties so that the viewpoints of the people already living in these areas were better represented by the “other” party. This doesn’t mean, of course, that everyone did that. The primary source of “moderate” or “liberal” republicans is the NE and of “moderate” or “conservative” democrats is the SE.
The fact of the matter is that African Americans overwhelmingly tend to be democrats (your little rant about segregation within the Democratic party to the contrary). Why is that? Why are black Republicans such a small proportion of the population as to be considered almost token? 150 years ago and more, the preferred party of African Americans (to the extent that they could participate in party politics at all) was Republican.
“So ksagnostic, let’s not brand an entire group of people with racism. Racism and intolerance is straight across the board.”
You evidently did not read my post immediately prior to the one you replied to. Or, you ignored it. I hardly am arguing that racism is the province of one party (others are making that mistake, not me).
“The Democratic Party’s “separate but equal policies have fooled a lot of people, including Blacks, for a long time. But it certainly doesn’t fool me.”
Interesting comment. You may not want to follow it to its logical conclusion.
TheMick-ey Mouse,
What’s the deal Mickey Mouse, you start off and denigrate with name calling, favor returned thank you, and then put something in quotation marks I NEVER SAID. I quote you, “Brainlock - Yours is a very paternalistic attitude: “We know better than you what political party is best for you to support.””
Very dishonest of you…and relegates your comments to the Trash Bin where they belong.
You are absolutely correct about one thing, even if it’s not what you want when you say, “Actions speak louder than words,”, and the Democratic Party’s action have historically hurt Blacks, while the Republican Party’s actions, in historic fact, have been directed at and accomplished helping them as a race reach parity.
Try again, honestly.
Hank asks,
“So tell me Kelly,
“How has the plight of the black man improved after 40 years of the democratic party pandering to them?”
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Uh, Hank?
They have a black man ready to secure the Democratic Party’s nomination and sweep to victory in November.
Republicans?
Uh, yeah, not so much . . .
Barry Goldwater (famous Arizona Republican) opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Robert Byrd (famous West Virginia Democrat) also opposed it. Both later regretted that vote.
I agree with Ksagnostic that this is off-topic, but since Hank and others insisted on bringing it up. . .
I should state at the outset that most people (Reps and Dems) are probably more privately racist than they indicate in public. The good news: although we may be a more mean-spirited society, I think both Dems and Reps are far less racist, generally speaking, now than 40 years ago. And civil rights legislations that passed back then occurred at a rare nexus of liberal/libertarian Republicans and Democrats, working together (sorry, cons, it’s your legacy, deal with it).
It’s pretty much undeniable that, from Nixon’s 1968 “Southern strategy,” to the North Carolina Republicans’ recent Jeremiah Wright ads, the Republican party has used thinly-veiled raciam to get Democratic racists to jump ship from a party in which they were feeling increasingly unwelcome.
And it’s worked.
An unfortunate side effect: many policies of the modern Republican party smack of racism as well. As always, the motive is cyncically political: African-Americans don’t vote Republican, so payback’s a mo-fo! Of course, it’s more complicated than that: you can be a successful black Republican if you glom onto the “got mine, up yours” philosophy of modern conservatism–and also happen to have the right connections.
Is it any wonder, then, that the last elected black Republican in Congress was Oklahoma City’s JC Watts, who quit in 2002? Yet Watts’s own father reportedly stated that “a black man voting for the Republicans makes about as much sense as a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.”
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/07/02/cf.crossfire/index.html
And KSFarmGrrl–
McClurkin was a bad mistake on Obama’s part. No doubt about it.
But it was a calculation he felt he had to make in the early stages of the race. McClurkin could pack the house and he knew that. After all, Obama can’t help anyone if he loses.
I’m still mystified though as to why a single McClurkin incident makes Obama a “gay-baiter” who throws the LGBT’s “under the bus” and Clinton is the only gay-friendly candidate.
Bill Clinton signed the “Protection of Marriage Act” that openly discriminated against gays. I don’t hear Hillary when citing her “experience” renouncing that act.
Not only that, but a lot of gay-rights types have noticed this about Hillary:
Wednesday, April 23, 2008
Hillary’s gay problem
by John Aravosis (DC) · 4/23/2008
My friend Phil Attey asks why Obama keeps mentioning gays and lesbians in his speeches - speeches he makes to the public at large, not just gay audiences - and Hillary never does.
Phil writes:
Last month, a gay Philadelphian LGBT publisher raised the issue that Senator Obama, though often addressing LGBT issues and including us in his major speeches, was not granting his publication an exclusive interview. Senator Obama quickly addressed the issue and granted an exclusive interview to the national LGBT publication, The Advocate.
Tonight, following the Pennsylvania Primary, Senator Obama once again showed his commitment to our community by including us in his address to the nation. Senator Clinton’s speech, once again, did not include us, and it brings up the issue that hers never do.
Phil is right. And he’s not the only one to notice:
But Obama speaks movingly of gay equality, and not just before gay audiences. He has raised the issue among white farmers and in black churches, where the message is both unwelcome and needed.
Clinton, by contrast, rarely raises the issue on her own, never does so before unfriendly audiences, and seems reluctant even to say the word “gay.”
Obama “gets it” in a way that no previous candidate for president has. Part of this is generational, but it is nonetheless real.
Obama mentions us in his speeches, a lot. And yes, Hillary will say those are just words. But you know, Obama was willing to chastize his own community for their homophobia in a speech given on Martin Luther King’s birthday in MLK’s own church to thousands of black leaders. Those are words that matter. Here’s to hoping that Hillary can find it in herself to utter the word “gay” (and even “lesbian”) in a setting that isn’t limited to a gay audience.
One more thing, watch this interview Hillary did with the gay cable network, Logo. First, the issue comes up about her never using the g-word, and she does use it, once during an entire 5 minute interview with a gay station about gay issues, while mentioning “gay organizations.” But notice how repeatedly in the interview Hillary hesitates and stumbles at places where you would naturally expect her to say the word “gay” - she doesn’t say it - she kind of stops, doesn’t say gay, then moves on. Watch the video for yourself.
She’s not comfortable saying the word. Obama is.
I think that tells you something about how they feel about the issue inside. It’s likely generational - he’s in his 40s, my generation, she’s 60. A transcript of the worst part follows the video, below - note particularly the question and her answer 1 minute and 2 seconds in:
[video link]
1:02 LOGO: “Your opponent, Senator Obama, regularly mentions gay people in his stump speech… You don’t mention gay rights all the time in your stump speech, you do when you’re in front of gay audiences, why is that?”
1:21 CLINTON: “Well I do mention, uh, from time to time, um, you know I don’t mention, you know, everything in every speech that I give, but uh people, you know, know how committed I am and they know what I’ve done, and that I led the efforts uh to try and defeat the Federal Marriage Amendment, working with you know all of the major uh gay rights organizations, uh, so you know I’m gonna continue to not just talk about what I will do but demonstrate by my actions what I have done and will do.”
http://www.americablog.com/2008/04/hillarys-gay-problem.html
I watched the video, Cap’n. One can overdo pop psychology but I nonetheless found her inability to say, uh, that word disturbing.
Seems to me that there is some possible intra-family differences of opinion in the Clinton household on the entire Gay Issues area… Bill having one view, and Chelsea seems to have another… Maybe Hillary is caught in “the middle” ?? Just a thought!!
“”"”Blacks voting democrat and not republican, I’m confused?
The Republicans freed the slaves (Lincoln and the Republican Congress of 1864)
The Republican Party was founded by abolitionist
Democrats fought for slavery
Democrats founded the KKK
Democrats introduced segregation
Democrats fought the against the civil right movement
Republicans supported the civil right movement
Democrat’s senators filibustered civil right legislation
Republicans voted for Civil rights”"”"
That is all true but that was the Democratic Party of yesterday and not today. The GOP party of yesterday was the party of people like Lincoln, Ike and Rockefeller who generally tried to help the black people. The GOP changed after Ike and became the racist party. In fact Ike caught hell from the GOP even before he left office for sending soldiers to Little Rock for the high school students and for insisting on non discrimination in Federal hiring and hiring by contractors (many of which were being given for building the interstate highway system). All the southern white racist like Jesse Helms and Storm Thurman flocked to it because of that. The Democratic Party - beginning with FDR and continuting with JFK, LBJ became the party of civil and human rights.
“The Democratic Party - beginning with FDR and continuting with JFK, LBJ became the party of civil and human rights.”
Oh…and also shackling them to an entitlement mentality, destroying their self-respect, as well as the family unit, so young blacks have a much more difficult time acquiring the skills necessary to compete in todays world which requires a good education.
I see: because Democrats support the enforcement of civil right laws, this somehow creates an “entitlement mentality” in young African-Americans.
Okay, this oughta be good! Go on. . .
>He cites a political analyst who guesses that the actual figure is closer to 15 percent.<
Am I the only one disturbed by this statement? He is citing a professional, who is guessing at statistics? ‘You know, it’s really disturbing that 15% of all white voters are racists.’ ‘Really Mr Analyst? Where did you come up with those figures?’ ‘Oh I just guessed.’
Boxlock…the “family unit” was destroyed as far back as slavery.
Didn’t you know that Black culture is matriarchal?
When daddy can be sold/traded like an animal, it destroys the “family unit”.
If you’re going to blanket Dems with unfounded accusations, at least THINK a LITTLE bit.
“and also shackling them to an entitlement mentality” Boy that’s awful isn’t it? Why the very idea that your fellow Americans might be GASP entitled to even the most meager existence.
You mean as opposed to yoking them with 80 hour work weeks and fighting against the minimum wage, organized labor and all those other worker friendly things cons (Republicans) do?
“destroying their self-respect, ”
Show me a Walmart worker with self respect as they are forced to sing the I love walmart song.
Republicans are the party of “it’s all your fault!”
Come on…cry me some big crocodile tears over all the long suffering. Many of the family units broken apart today have nothing to do with slavery. In fact I would bet that the ’slave’ family held together longer then than many black families today. I am in no way generalizing all black families by any means. But lets face it if after 140+ years it’s time to get on with it and quit blaming others. That’s the first step to parity with others.
But lets face it if after 140+ years it’s time to get on with it and quit blaming others. That’s the first step to parity with others.
140+ years? Thanks for laying bare your thinking there, Box o’Scotch. I wasn’t aware that African-Americans had anything approaching legal equality in 1868 (or 1968, for that matter), but you obviously must have more recent more information.
Didn’t someone mention “separate but equal” upthread?
Yeah the white Democrats are doing such a fine job with racism. Look at where most all race riots and protests are done - all in Democratic Party strongholds.
Of course, we can’t forget those strong leaders in the South like George Wallace.
How about the WWII ultimate hero Franklin D. Roosevelt who put 120,000 Japanese-Americans into concentration camps with total disregard of their constitutional rights and private property ownership.
Senator Ernest Hollings, D-SC, that racial slurring politician who described African Americans as “darkies.”
Representative Dick Gephardt, D-MO, who once lead South Citizens Council, a now defunct white supremacist organization, during his early years as a congressman in efforts to help him get re-elected.
Andrew Cuomo: Cuomo, Bill Clinton’s former Housing Secretary and a prominent Democrat political player in New York, was tape recorded using racially inflamatory rhetoric to build opposition to a potential Democrat primary opponent while speaking to a Democrat group. Cuomo stated that voting for his rival for the New York Democrat gubernatorial nomination Carl McCall, who is black, would create a “racial contract” between Black and Hispanic Democrats “and that can’t happen.” Upon initial reports, Cuomo denied the statement but later a tape recording surfaced. Cuomo later dropped out of the race for governor.
Lee P. Brown: Brown, Bill Clinton’s former drug czar and Democrat mayor of Houston, engaged in racist campaigning designed to suppress Hispanic voter turnout during his 2001 reelection bid. Brown faced challenger Orlando Sanchez, a Hispanic Republican who drew heavy support from the Hispanic community during the general election. Two weeks prior to the runoff, Brown’s campaign printed racist signs designed to intimidate Hispanic voters. The signs featured a photograph of Sanchez and the words “Anti-Hispanic.” The signs drew harsh criticism from Hispanic leaders as their message was designed to intimidate and confuse Hispanic voters.
Billy McKinney: Former Democrat State Representative Billy McKinney of Georgia, who is also the father of former Democrat congresswoman Cynthia McKinney of the same state. During his daughter’s failed 2002 reelection bid, McKinney appeared on television where he blamed his daughter’s difficulties on a Jewish conspiracy. McKinney unleashed a string of anti-semitic sentiments, stating “This is all about the Jews” and spelling out “J-E-W-S.”
<b?Democrat opposition to the Civil Rights Movement:
Democrat Senators organized the record Senate filibuster of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Included among the organizers were several prominent and well known liberal Democrat standard bearers including:
- Robert Byrd, current senator from West Virginia
- J. William Fulbright, Arkansas senator and political mentor of Bill Clinton
- Albert Gore Sr., Tennessee senator, father and political mentor of Al Gore. Gore Jr. has been known to lie about his father’s opposition to the Civil Rights Act.
- Sam Ervin, North Carolina senator of Watergate hearings fame
- Richard Russell, famed Georgia senator and later President Pro Tempore
The complete list of the 21 Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 includes Senators:
- Hill and Sparkman of Alabama
- Fulbright and McClellan of Arkansas
- Holland and Smathers of Florida
- Russell and Talmadge of Georgia
- Ellender and Long of Louisiana
- Eastland and Stennis of Mississippi
- Ervin and Jordan of North Carolina
- Johnston and Thurmond of South Carolina
- Gore Sr. and Walters of Tennessee
- H. Byrd and Robertson of Virginia
- R. Byrd of West Virginia
Democrat opposition to the Civil Rights Act was substantial enough to literally split the party in two. A whopping 40% of the House Democrats VOTED AGAINST the Civil Rights Act, while 80% of Republicans SUPPORTED it. Republican support in the Senate was even higher. Similar trends occurred with the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which was supported by 82% of House Republicans and 94% of Senate Republicans. The same Democrat standard bearers took their normal racists stances, this time with Senator Fulbright leading the opposition effort.
It took the hard work of Republican Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen and Republican Whip Thomas Kuchel to pass the Civil Rights Act (Dirksen was presented a civil rights accomplishment award for the year by the head of the NAACP in recognition of his efforts). Upon breaking the Democrat filibuster of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, Republican Dirksen took to the Senate floor and exclaimed “The time has come for equality of opportunity in sharing in government, in education, and in employment. It will not be stayed or denied. It is here!” (Full text of speech). Sadly, Democrats and revisionist historians have all but forgotten (and intentionally so) that it was Republican Dirksen, not the divided Democrats, who made the Civil Rights Act a reality. Dirksen also broke the Democrat filibuster of the 1957 Civil Rights Act that was signed by Republican President Eisenhower.
Outside of Congress, the three most notorious opponents of school integration were all Democrats:
- Orval Faubus, Democrat Governor of Arkansas and one of Bill Clinton’s political heroes
- George Wallace, Democrat Governor of Alabama
- Lester Maddox, Democrat Governor of Georgia
The most famous of the school desegregation standoffs involved Governor Faubus. Democrat Faubus used police and state forces to block the integration of a high school in Little Rock, Arkansas. The standoff was settled and the school was integrated only after the intervention of Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower.
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Even the Democrat Party organization resisted integration and refused to allow minority participation for decades. Exclusion of minorities was the general rule of the Democrat Party of many states for decades, especially in Texas. This racist policy reached its peak under the New Deal in the southern and western states, often known as the New Deal Coalition region of FDR. The Supreme Court in Nixon v. Herndon declared the practice of “white primaries” unconstitutional in 1927 after states had passed laws barring Blacks from participating in Democrat primaries. But the Democrat Parties did not yield to the Court’s order. After Nixon v. Herndon, Democrats simply made rules within the party’s individual executive committees to bar minorities from participating, which were struck down in Nixon v. Condon in 1932. The Democrats, in typical racist fashion, responded by using state parties to pass rules barring blacks from participation. This decision was upheld in Grovey v. Townsend, which was not overturned until 1944 by Smith v. Allwright. The Texas Democrats responded with their usual ploys and turned to what was known as the “Jaybird system” which used private Democrat clubs to hold white-only votes on a slate of candidates, which were then transferred to the Democrat party itself and put on their primary ballot as the only choices. Terry v. Adams overturned the Jaybird system, prompting the Democrats to institute blocks of unit rule voting procedures as well as the infamous literacy tests and other Jim Crow regulations to specifically block minorities from participating in their primaries. In the end, it took 4 direct Supreme Court orders to end the Democrat’s “white primary” system, and after that it took countless additional orders, several acts of Congress, and a constitutional amendment to tear down the Jim Crow codes that preserved the Democrat’s white primary for decades beyond the final Supreme Court order ruling it officially unconstitutional.
Hispanics in South Texas were treated especially poorly by the Democrat Party, which relied heavily on a system of political bosses to coerce and intimidate Hispanics into voting for Democrat primary candidates of choice. Though coercion is illegal, this system, known as the Patron system, is still in use to this day by local Democrat parties in some heavy Hispanic communities of the southwest.
The next time Democrats take to the national airwaves to dishonestly accuse Republicans of racial hatred, remember who the historical record up until this very day points to as the real bigots: The Democrat Party. In all possible ways, the Democrat Party is built around the pillars of ultra leftists, many of whom are known participants in racism and/or affiliates of racist hate groups. Consider the Democrat Party of today’s heroes and leaders:
- Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Democrat icon and orchestrator of Japanese Internment
- Ex-House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt, former affiliate of a St. Louis area racist group
- Ex-Senate President Pro Tempore Robert Byrd, former Ku Klux Klansman known for making bigoted slurs on national television
- Rev. Jesse Jackson, Democrat keynote speaker and race hustler known for making anti-Semitic slurs
- Rev. Al Sharpten, Democrat activist and perennial candidate and race hustler known inciting anti-Semitic violence in New York City
- Sen. Ernest Hollings, leading Democrat Senator known for use of racial slurs against several minority groups
- Lee P. Brown, former Clinton cabinet official and Democrat mayor of Houston who won reelection using racial intimidation against Hispanic voters
- Andrew Cuomo, former Clinton cabinet official and Democrat candidate for NY Governor who made racist statements about a black opponent.
- Dan Rather, Democrat CBS news anchor and editorialist known for using anti-black racial epithets on a national radio broadcast
- Donna Brazile, former Gore campaign manager known for making anti-white racial attacks. Brazile has also worked for Jackson, Gephardt, and Michael Dukakis
The simple truth is that the Democrat Party’s history during this century is one closely aligned to bigotry in a record stemming largely out of the liberal New Deal era up until the modern day. Bigots are at the center of the Democrat party’s current leadership and role models. And in a striking display of hypocrisy, many of the same Democrats who dishonestly shout accusations of “bigotry” at conservatives are practicing bigots of the most disgusting and disreputable kind themselves.
http://members.tripod.com/~GOPcapitalist/democratrecord.html
Rev. Wayne Perryman, associate pastor of Mt. Calvary Christian COGIC in Seattle, Washington, first filed a significant reparations lawsuit against the Democratic Party in 2004. The suit was dismissed two times before Perryman refiled in 2005 and now the case is pending further action in the U.S. Court of Appeals, 9th Circuit, Docket #0535890.
Perryman’s lawsuit does not seek millions of dollars. It asks that the Democratic Party issue a national apology for what he termed its past racist policies and practices toward blacks-and that they fund production of a series of documentaries which would record and preserve the tainted legacy of the party with free distribution to all public and private schools in the country.
These reported Democratic transgressions, Perryman outlined in his book, “Unfounded Loyalty: An In-depth Look Into the Love Affair Between Blacks and the Democrats.” In it, and in his lawsuit, the Seattle minister details events which occurred from 1792 through 2002 which he claims show the pattern of bias and racism from that political party.
“In addition to lynchings and terrorist attacks by the Democrat’s terrorist organizations (as revealed in the 1871 Senate hearings), Democrats legislated Black Codes, Jim Crow laws and a multitude of other repressive legislation at the federal and state levels (and repealed other key pieces of Civil Rights legislation) all in an effort to deny blacks their rights as citizens. The entire system of racism in America was meticulously thought-out and carried-out by a powerful political machine. And that political machine according to Historians, was the Democratic Party - the party of “White Supremacy.”
Perryman, who has switched his party affiliation to Independent, contended in his recent book, “Unfounded Loyalty: An In-depth Look Into the Love Affair Between Blacks and the Democrats,” that Republicans have less to apologize for than Democrats, outlining events which occurred from 1792 through 2002 which he contends show patterns of bias and racism from the Democrats. One interesting point, the clergyman makes deals with the currently controversial discussion of reparations for slavery.
One of the proofs he cites in his case is that Republicans, in 1866, introduced a Senate bill for reparations but Democratic President Andrew Johnson vetoed it. “We would have had reparations if it weren’t for the Democrats,” Perryman told journalist Adeeba Folami. He also asserts that it was in Democratic controlled states where blacks were doused in kerosene, set on fire and lynched, many times while their homes were simultaneously being burned to the ground. All the while, Democratic mayors, judges and other elected officials joined in and cheered the activities along or looked the other way.
“You never found anywhere or [in] any public record where the Democratic Party ever apologized,” the former Democrat said, adding that he believes last year’s Resolution 39, the government’s official apology for lynching, was inspired by his lawsuit as it was introduced by a Democratic, southern senator on the same day the DNP was to have responded to his lawsuit in federal court. The author views that effort as one aimed at circumventing his case, however, the irony, he said, was in the fact that it was Republicans who congressional records show were introducing anti-lynching laws in the 1870s, laws that were never passed or supported by Democrats.
http://www.wayneperryman.com/wp/?p=22
Wow, I love this new format with the name before the post.
Makes it so much easier to scroll over ReguLIAR’s ridiculous historical (hysterical?) posts from 1870 . . .
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Boxlock writes that [the Dem party] “shacked them [blacks] to an entitlement mentality, destroying their self-respect, as well as the family unit.”
Pay no attention to the simple fact that most people on welfare are white and most blacks are not on welfare.
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CapnAmerica
Posted April 26, 2008 at 7:16 pm | Permalink
Pay no attention to the simple fact that most people on welfare are white and most blacks are not on welfare.
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Ah statistics…
“There are roughly 5.5 million whites on welfare, and roughly 5.2 million blacks on welfare. There are almost 195 million whites in the US, and just almost 35 million blacks. This means that while less than 3% of the white population is on welfare, and over 15% of blacks are on welfare.”
This means a disproportionate amount of Blacks are on welfare, all thanks to indoctrination of the Welfare system by the Democratic Party.
Mercy sakes, looks like James keeps all of his vitriolic spew at finger tip access with just a flick of the mouse on edit/copy!!
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Chas
Posted April 26, 2008 at 7:33 pm | Permalink
Mercy sakes, looks like James keeps all of his vitriolic spew at finger tip access with just a flick of the mouse on edit/copy!!
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Looks to me the Democratic Party love to hide their Racist past and continued Racist Policies.
You know, by keeping mostly Black Districts through gerrymandering political division lines in neighborhoods throughout the country, so the Democratic Party can keep their bought and paid for Black politicians in line and in control of Black people who are suffering because of Democratic “keep them down” politics.
Thanks for googling that, Regular, and proving that everything I said was 100 percent true.
More Whites than Blacks are on welfare. Check.
More Blacks are not on welfare than are on. Check.
In fact as your figures show, 85 percent of blacks are not on welfare.
Wow. Now if we could only get 85 percent of big corporations off of government subsidies, i.e., welfare.
Democrats have been so successful at keeping the African-Americans down on the plantation, that a Democratic African-American is going to be the next president of the United States.
Wow, did we fool them or what?
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CapnAmerica
Posted April 26, 2008 at 7:39 pm | Permalink
Thanks for googling that, Regular, and proving that everything I said was 100 percent true.
More Whites than Blacks are on welfare. Check.
More Blacks are not on welfare than are on. Check.
In fact as your figures show, 85 percent of blacks are not on welfare.
Wow. Now if we could only get 85 percent of big corporations off of government subsidies, i.e., welfare.
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Yet another example of Democratic Party racism.
The racism of ignoring facts when a disproportionate amount of Black population are in prison and on Welfare rolls.
This is policy of political satisfaction by the Democratic Party.
They are satisfied that raw population numbers show more whites in prisons than blacks. They are satisfied that more whites are on welfare than blacks.
CapnAmerica and his Lib cronies on the blog are satisfied that a disproportionate amount of black men are in prisons and black people are on welfare.
Just as the White, Democratic Senators filibustered the Civil Rights Amendment in the 1960s, CapnAmerica and his cronies are filibustering the truth from Black America by giving distorted facts, then defending those same distorted facts.
Democratic Party, the true party of racists, the party that pursues separate but equal policies, the party that keeps breathing life into the evil controlling lungs of the welfare system in order to keep a dependent power base of misinformed minorities.
The Democratic Party doesn’t care about Blacks, it cares about power.
Nice patronizing hysteria there, Regular. I’m sure African-Americans appreciate you enlightening them as how completely foolish they are. After all, it isn’t like they’ve had to struggle to survive or anything. Naah, they’ll follow any pied piper with a good line of bullshit. It’s not like they can think for themselves, or it’s important to them or anything. Damn stupid niggers.
(For the irony-impaired, that was sarcasm)
P.S. I’d love to represented by a “bought and paid for” black politician like John Conyers. To claim that part of Detroit, e.g., is economically depressed due to black politicians like Conyers is about as disconnected from reality as it gets.
It may also depend on what part of the country you are talking about. I lived in rural Oklahoma, the most overwhelmingly Democratic place I have ever lived. It was so Democratic that when my wife and I voted in a primary. The polling place did not even have a Republican ballot! They had to send off for two from the next biggest town over so we could vote! Yet, it had only been about three years since they had finally removed their “Sundown” sign. The sign that warned any Blacks to not let the sun go down on their backs within this town. Once a Black sales man selling car insurance came to town, the chain calls went out and finally he left saying he had never seen a town so full of people whom had gotten DUI and hit and runs in his career. When I first took the job, I was warned if I saw a glow off in the woods to not investigate. AS it would either be the Clan or the occult and neither would want me around. My point is that racism is not limited to one party or the other and is not more in one party or the other. It is not limited to one race or an other.
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Rage
Posted April 26, 2008 at 8:06 pm | Permalink
Nice patronizing hysteria there, Regular. I’m sure African-Americans appreciate you enlightening them as how completely foolish they are. After all, it isn’t like they’ve had to struggle to survive or anything. Naah, they’ll follow any pied piper with a good line of bullshit. It’s not like they can think for themselves, or it’s important to them or anything. Damn stupid niggers.
(For the irony-impaired, that was sarcasm)
P.S. I’d love to represented by a “bought and paid for” black politician like John Conyers. To claim that part of Detroit, e.g., is economically depressed due to black politicians like Conyers is about as disconnected from reality as it gets.
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Yet another strong Democratic Party member Rage, filibustering by diversion tactics.
He calls it “patronizing hysteria.” I call it the stinging truth about the real racism of the Democratic Party.
The Democratic Party that uses subtle “quail covey” techniques to keep Black people in their own groups. The Democratic Party that can’t help themselves to refer to constituents as Blacks because they want to pander by patronizing.
The Democratic Party that is full of racists like Rage and MonkeyHawk, that yearn for the moment to use the “N” word and the disguise it as “irony and sarcasm.”
This is your Democratic Party, white America. The party that compartmentalizes the Black men and women of the U.S. in order to keep them in their place and accounted for.
The Democratic Party that perpetuates racism by holding down Blacks with limited opportunity and make them believe they actually got the “prize.”
The real “prize” would be for Black Americans to dump the Democratic Party as the smooth talking, KKK background and Civil Rights filibustering racists that they are.
Oh, the Democrats talk a good game, until they get behind closed doors in their good old white boy networks, then its “How can we throw a bone to the Blacks to keep them happy.”
The Democratic Party is about preserving white power for the political elitists. They will use smooth talk and deceptive finger pointing. They will even use Black politicians, drunk with power themselves, to keep their dominance over the Black men and women of the U.S.
The Democratic Party is a party of pretenders, evil power seeking, self-glorifying, egocentric demons who will stop at nothing to deceive the Black population of the U.S. It’s time to wake up Black America. You have met the enemy and that enemy is the Democratic Party.
Or, do you want to hear more of the same rhetoric from people like rage, who state the “N” word is that of “irony and sarcasm.” People like rage just wait for the moment to use the word, they want to use the word and they do use the word.
When is the last time one of these “white bread” Democrats visited your community or church without their hand out, asking for political donations?
“Regular” might well be credited with at least SOME knowledge as to welfare.
Since he IS. you know, on it.
That’s your welfare Republican for ya. He’s gonna scream and scream for fewer slices in the pie. He doesn’t want the size of his portion diminished.
“Regular”
His nic is placed in quotes as he so frequently changes it. Something about being ashamed of earlier posts in other nics.
Well in addition to being a hypocrite in decrying welfare while he himself collects it?
He is also a bigot. I note the capitalization of the adjective Black in his post.
A subtle but definite clue. He may not even admit it to himself. But by that simple slip, he is showing that a marginalization exists in his mind. He sees Black people and white people.
And in this case, the capitalization is not complimentary or honorary. It’s just marginalization pure and simple.
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BlueJay
Posted April 26, 2008 at 8:23 pm | Permalink
“Regular” might well be credited with at least SOME knowledge as to welfare.
Since he IS. you know, on it.
That’s your welfare Republican for ya. He’s gonna scream and scream for fewer slices in the pie. He doesn’t want the size of his portion diminished.
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Yeah Junior,
All retired military are on welfare.
You see Black America, this is the deceptive speech of the racist Democratic Party member.
They will use any mean and method of deception, twisted words to ooze their guttural phlegm upon the American public.
Blue Jay didn’t acknowledge the fact that he is racist because he wants the pure whitebread born and raised Hillary Clinton in White House.
Blue Jay can’t be standing behind Obama, because he is a Black man.
You do know what Blue Jay gives as an excuse not supporting Obama? He states that Obama has colluded with the Republicans and supports the Republican cause.
Now, one has to ask themselves, since it is patently false and couldn’t be further from the truth.
Blue Jay is really a bigot - he only wants the white bread Clinton to be in the White House.
The White Bread that only shows up at Black Churches with her hand out for donations.
Consider the source, Blue Jay is swimming in racist views and disguises them by putting blame on the Republican party.
But hey Black America, this is what the Democratic party is made of; deceivers, demons of accusation and purveyor of false testimony.
It’s filled with party members like Rage and MonkeyHawk who have no qualms to freely using the “N” word as that of irony.
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Regular
Posted April 26, 2008 at 8:22 pm | Permalink
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Rage
Posted April 26, 2008 at 8:06 pm | Permalink
Nice patronizing hysteria there, Regular. I’m sure African-Americans appreciate you enlightening them as how completely foolish they are. After all, it isn’t like they’ve had to struggle to survive or anything. Naah, they’ll follow any pied piper with a good line of bullshit. It’s not like they can think for themselves, or it’s important to them or anything. Damn stupid niggers.
(For the irony-impaired, that was sarcasm)
P.S. I’d love to represented by a “bought and paid for” black politician like John Conyers. To claim that part of Detroit, e.g., is economically depressed due to black politicians like Conyers is about as disconnected from reality as it gets.
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Yet another strong Democratic Party member Rage, filibustering by diversion tactics.
He calls it “patronizing hysteria.” I call it the stinging truth about the real racism of the Democratic Party.
The Democratic Party that uses subtle “quail covey” techniques to keep Black people in their own groups. The Democratic Party that can’t help themselves to refer to constituents as Blacks because they want to pander by patronizing.
The Democratic Party that is full of racists like Rage and MonkeyHawk, that yearn for the moment to use the “N” word and the disguise it as “irony and sarcasm.”
This is your Democratic Party, white America. The party that compartmentalizes the Black men and women of the U.S. in order to keep them in their place and accounted for.
The Democratic Party that perpetuates racism by holding down Blacks with limited opportunity and make them believe they actually got the “prize.”
The real “prize” would be for Black Americans to dump the Democratic Party as the smooth talking, KKK background and Civil Rights filibustering racists that they are.
Oh, the Democrats talk a good game, until they get behind closed doors in their good old white boy networks, then its “How can we throw a bone to the Blacks to keep them happy.”
The Democratic Party is about preserving white power for the political elitists. They will use smooth talk and deceptive finger pointing. They will even use Black politicians, drunk with power themselves, to keep their dominance over the Black men and women of the U.S.
The Democratic Party is a party of pretenders, evil power seeking, self-glorifying, egocentric demons who will stop at nothing to deceive the Black population of the U.S. It’s time to wake up Black America. You have met the enemy and that enemy is the Democratic Party.
Or, do you want to hear more of the same rhetoric from people like rage, who state the “N” word is that of “irony and sarcasm.” People like rage just wait for the moment to use the word, they want to use the word and they do use the word.
When is the last time one of these “white bread” Democrats visited your community or church without their hand out, asking for political donations?
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If the above, written by regular, isn’t the biggest piece of Neocon crap I’ve ever read, then I don’t know how to read.
White bread democrats? How about racist conservatives? Why do you think blacks would rather join the Democrat party? Because Conservatives love em so much?
Blacks flock to the Democrat party not by a mob mentality, but an educated choice. Something not offered by the Conservatives. Your sick diatribe on how stupid blacks are is a bit disgusting in a climate supposed to foster quality race relations.
You, sir, are a f**king bigot, and a true credit to your political beliefs. You’ve got one sick view of the human race. Keep it up, a**hole, you’re, thankfully, a dying breed.
That’s a nice try Regular. But it’s been done before.
A word of advice? Don’t steal debating ideas from ANOTHER racist who sees and has posted as to Black people.
There’s that marginalization again in the post you just threw at me.
My reasons for opposing Obama are well known and well stated. You managed to state some of them and invent a few others.
It is true that I am uncertain as to Obama’s political leanings. This uncertainty come from his own words and is shared by many.
Now one option I have discussed if Obama is the nominee is voting for the Green party.
Their candidate is Cynthia McKinney. She is a black woman.
That makes any assertion that I am prejudiced rather baseless. And “Regular” knew it when he made the charge.
I lived in rural Oklahoma, the most overwhelmingly Democratic place I have ever lived.
Me too, dog, though I suspect if you went back there, you’d find Republicans today. And not Henry Bellmon style Republicans–assholes like James Inhofe (the former mayor of Tulsa). People like Regular seem to want to deny the shifts in political allegiance that have occurred over the past 50 years, or why. They have their own agenda.
When Republican Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island was defeated for re-election, his opponent didn’t attack him personally–he didn’t have too. In fact, his opponent complimented him! He simply pointed out that Chaffee’s continuation as a Republican senator empowered people like Trent Lott and Bill Frist.
The man had a 62% percent approval rating, but he still lost. New England moderates had enough. Chafee represented a Republican party that, at the national level, no longer existed.
Well said JM WALKER!
JMWalker
Posted April 26, 2008 at 8:39 pm
If the above, written by regular, isn’t the biggest piece of Neocon crap I’ve ever read, then I don’t know how to read.
You don’t know how to read.
White bread democrats? How about racist conservatives? Why do you think blacks would rather join the Democrat party? Because Conservatives love em so much?
Democratic Party power brokers attract Black Leaders to the party by promising them a piece of the pie. They promise “power” not equality. It’s a deceptive ruse to keep “key” Black Leaders drunk on the wine of power, while keeping the majority of Blacks in their place.
Blacks flock to the Democrat party not by a mob mentality, but an educated choice. Something not offered by the Conservatives. Your sick diatribe on how stupid blacks are is a bit disgusting in a climate supposed to foster quality race relations.
You, sir, are a f**king bigot, and a true credit to your political beliefs. You’ve got one sick view of the human race. Keep it up, a**hole, you’re, thankfully, a dying breed.
Blacks are certainly not stupid, but have been craftily deceived by the Democratic Party from both White and Black Leadership. They use ‘carrots’ to keep the Black populace following, all the while keeping the gems of society for themselves
This folks what J M Walker has done is called in psychological terms as projection and rationalization.
He can’t defend his racist positions, so he projects ad hominem and rationalizes the failures of the Democratic Party have had on Black Americans by pointing the finger at convenient targets, the Republicans.
Beware of the great deceivers Black America. This is the party that will keep you couped up in segregated neighborhoods, keep you from your faith by saying “God does not exist” and use the “carrots” of the welfare system to keep the most vulnerable down and out of the picture.
Regular, good grief man! I take a break for a couple of hours and when I return you are doing such a incredibly great job slaying DemLibs ideologies single-handed that I am going to take a nap, all the while knowing that the battle has been left to good and capable hands.
Their ideological bodies are laying in bloody parts all over this field….good job. Though you do have the advantage of course, their ideologies are weak and stunted, as well as dishonest I suspect.
Rage, it matters not if they “had anything approaching legal equality” now, because they DO NOW and have for a long time. We are living in the NOW not the past, and until everyone starts realizing and acting like that progress will not be made.
And Rage, I think it telling when you say, “I’m sure African-Americans appreciate you enlightening them as how completely foolish they are…Naah, they’ll follow any pied piper with a good line of bullshit.” Because that is exactly what the DemLibs have been feeding them for years, and unfortunately many haven’t awakened to the fact yet. Hopefully that will happen soon, as it will be the first step to real recovery and parity.
Your point could easily have been made by the way without using the term D..n S…id N..g..ers without writing it, I think that telling about your racism, mind and attitude as well.
Of course race is a factor in voting choice. To say otherwise is nuts.
For instance, over 90% of blacks vote for Obama over Clinton. Big surprise. They vote for Obama because he is black. He is one of them. Is that racists of them?
It hardly seems surprising that 8% or whatever it is of whites would have difficulty voting for a black man.
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“As for Pennsylvania, Greg Mitchell of Editor and Publisher thinks the racist vote gave Hillary Clinton her comfortable margin.”
Or you could also say the racist black vote kept the margin close as it was for Obama.
Now you get to watch the Racists and Bigots like Blue Jay, Rage and J M Walker, rationalize and project their way out of the situation.
They won’t bring up any known facts. They will use opportunities of smear and deception. They will employ serendipity stories that show Republican politicians do nothing.
These Democratic Party Blogladytes will demonstrate their deceptive demonic practice asserting atheism for America, meanwhile promoting the sudden appearances of their white bread political candidates to show up Black American Churches with their hand out for donations.
Beware of Satan Black America. He is alive and well in the Democratic Party.
For instance, over 90% of blacks vote for Obama over Clinton. Big surprise. They vote for Obama because he is black. He is one of them. Is that racists of them?
I dunno. Why don’t we ask Al Sharpton? Boy, he sure kicked ass in 2004, didn’t he? The black community was solidly behind him–NOT.
Regular you are the person who made the vile rascist comment that Obama had to move to Chicago in order to learn how to be black.
I asked you where one goes to learn to be white and you would not answer except to make the weak myopic claim that your comment was not rascist.
You sir are a blatant rascist. Your comments tonight have proven that without a shadow of a doubt.
racist…my mistake.
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KansasNative
Posted April 26, 2008 at 9:04 pm | Permalink
Regular you are the person who made the vile rascist comment that Obama had to move to Chicago in order to learn how to be black.
I asked you where one goes to learn to be white and you would not answer except to make the weak myopic claim that your comment was not rascist.
You sir are a blatant rascist. Your comments tonight have proven that without a shadow of a doubt.
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There’s one.
Category: Ad hominem - no facts.
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Rage
Posted April 26, 2008 at 8:59 pm | Permalink
For instance, over 90% of blacks vote for Obama over Clinton. Big surprise. They vote for Obama because he is black. He is one of them. Is that racists of them?
I dunno. Why don’t we ask Al Sharpton? Boy, he sure kicked ass in 2004, didn’t he? The black community was solidly behind him–NOT.
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There’s two
Category: Rationalization - Distorted Facts.
Ok now it is not clear as to whether “regular” is a racist or simply an idiot or both.
He seems fixated on capitalizing adjectives. NOW “Racists” and “Bigots” merit capitalization?
And how shameless of him to swing the bible and faith to defend himself in his losing battle. I believe he is the first to go to that.
I hope the faithful will not be further demeaned by “regular”. Regular has elsewhere ascribed demonic powers to people who simply disagree with him. My religious knowledge aint the best. But I doubt “Satan” has THAT many minions!
So you deny ever saying that Regular? You sir are a liar as well as a racist.
Where do you go to Church Jimmy?
That’s a pretty vauge an unsupported statement about the Rev Al, Rage. I guess my comment would be that racist tendencies are not folks’ only motivation. In Rev Al’s case there would be the desire not to vote for a buffoon.
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BlueJay
Posted April 26, 2008 at 9:08 pm | Permalink
Ok now it is not clear as to whether “regular” is a racist or simply an idiot or both.
He seems fixated on capitalizing adjectives. NOW “Racists” and “Bigots” merit capitalization?
And how shameless of him to swing the bible and faith to defend himself in his losing battle. I believe he is the first to go to that.
I hope the faithful will not be further demeaned by “regular”. Regular has elsewhere ascribed demonic powers to people who simply disagree with him. My religious knowledge aint the best. But I doubt “Satan” has THAT many minions!
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There’s three.
Category: ad hominem, rationalization, projection and distorted facts
Jimmy, what church allows a blatant racist as yourself to be a member?
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KansasNative
Posted April 26, 2008 at 9:09 pm | Permalink
So you deny ever saying that Regular? You sir are a liar as well as a racist.
Where do you go to Church Jimmy?
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There’s four.
Cateogory: Rationalization and ad hominem
I guess my comment would be that racist tendencies are not folks’ only motivation. In Rev Al’s case there would be the desire not to vote for a buffoon.
Precisely.
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KansasNative
Posted April 26, 2008 at 9:11 pm | Permalink
Jimmy, what church allows a blatant racist as yourself to be a member?
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There’s five.
Category: Pure adhominem
Jimmy refuses to admit that he said Obama moved to Chicago to learn how to be Black.
No answers from Jimmy.
Still no answers from Jimmy.
Jimmyt won’t admit his racist comment from the other day.
Pathetic.
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KansasNative
Posted April 26, 2008 at 9:15 pm | Permalink
Jimmy refuses to admit that he said Obama moved to Chicago to learn how to be Black.
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KansasNative
Posted April 26, 2008 at 9:16 pm | Permalink
No answers from Jimmy.
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There’s six.
Category: No facts, just personal attacks
This, Black America, is what the Democratic Party consists of;
They throw in a stripped ox bone into the Political Soup and call it beefy. In reality, it is a party without substance. It is a party without a soul. It is a party without leadership from God. It is a party led by the Great Deceiver himself, Satan.
Point taken Rage. But it is also undeniable that race motivated voting is a factor in a number of both pro and against Obama votes. A fact that the article does not address.
Regular is melting down. Now all Democrats a followers of satan.
Pathetic.
Howard Dean is satan? Incredible.
I think Jimmy has finally totally flipped his wig.
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KansasNative
Posted April 26, 2008 at 9:25 pm | Permalink
Regular is melting down. Now all Democrats a followers of satan.
Pathetic.
Howard Dean is satan? Incredible.
I think Jimmy has finally totally flipped his wig.
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There’s seven.
Category: ad hominem - zero facts
“Black America” is that some sort of separate country Jimmy?
Cut and paste is all Jimmy has now.
He truly is ReguLIAR.
Now who is the father of all lies?
oh yeah….
Regular,
They are beaten…they have nothing except personal attacks to offerup. As if they think they can throw enough crap to cause you to leave or get angry.
All fools again.