Sedgwick County grand jury wants to review George Tiller’s medical records to determine whether he has performed illegal late-term abortions. His lawyers say that will violate patient privacy, even if identifying information is redacted. During Tuesday’s nearly three-hour hearing of the records case before the Kansas Supreme Court, one exchange between an attorney and a justice was enlightening:
“There is no blanket privilege to have all identifying information excluded,†said David Lowden of the Sedgwick County District Attorney’s Office, arguing the grand jury’s side.
“There is no blanket authority for the state to have any information they want,†responded Justice Lee Johnson.
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Only here does a state go after someone when there is no evidence of any wrongdoing.
Can we call a grand jury of harassment charges against KFL and OR?
Also, watch very closely the Kansas Board of Healing Arts, where the fundy freaks have influenced legislation and got the head out of office there.
Women don’t think this applies to you? Think of your future if you should ever need an abortion, or your children. Join Planned Parenthood or ProKanDo. Get involved, before its too late.
Political_mama
Posted April 10, 2008 at 6:21 am
Women don’t think this applies to you? Think of your future if you should ever need an abortion, or your children. Join Planned Parenthood or ProKanDo. Get involved, before its too late.
…or if you want to use birth control. The male dominated fundies want that banned as well.
A complex issue. IF there is wrong-doing there needs to ba access to the records. HOWEVER - there also needs to be good mechanisms in place to protect those records and their privacy. Broadcasting the information on a right-wing talk show is clearly inappropriate.
Consider the Schneider case. Here is another one where records need to be examined. However, should we be seeing photographs of the patients posted on a web site? Should we see some crusader discussing these patients on television?
More weasel words by Tiller. Get the records and be done with it.
“Get the records and be done with it.”
Yeah. So Bill O’Reilly can put these womens pictures on his TV show.
A woman is going to continue to have the right to choose. This will NOT change.
Those with nose trouble should use their considerable zeal toward making ours a society that embraces and cares for all of it’s citizens.
Every time I go to a clinic, my records are looked at by at least three, probably more people.
Privacy my butt, it’s just a medical procedure and everyone in the entire world knows why they go to Tiller’s Clinic and it sure ain’t to get a massage.
Once the privacy data is redacted, all that is left is the procedure itself.
As I said, weasel words by Tiller.
I took my girlfriend there for a pregnancy test once there James.
And no, I was not looking for an abortion.
But we (my girlfriend and I) found the folks at the “pro life” place off putting.
“Once the privacy data is redacted, all that is left is the procedure itself.”
And, of course, the photographs posted by OR and the hotel records to identify the patients.
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Ben
Posted April 10, 2008 at 8:50 am | Permalink
“Once the privacy data is redacted, all that is left is the procedure itself.”
And, of course, the photographs posted by OR and the hotel records to identify the patients.
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And ancillary evidence are relevant to medical records being turned over how?
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J R
Posted April 10, 2008 at 8:49 am | Permalink
I took my girlfriend there for a pregnancy test once there James.
And no, I was not looking for an abortion.
But we (my girlfriend and I) found the folks at the “pro life” place off putting.
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Well then,
They are interested in looking at pregnancy tests now are they?
As I said, weasel words by Tiller.
er aren’t interested
Ben,
So far anyway, the only “evidence” of wrongdoing by Dr. Tiller is that because he is Satan Incarnate, he must be doing something illegal!
As for releasing patients records, the last time Kline got records with the promise that they be kept sealed, they ended up being read on right-wing TV within a week. That pretty much negates any promises to the effect that the records will be seen only by the grand jury and all Identifying information be redacted. Given that any competant investigator could put those records together with the information that OR has been ccollecting for years, and put names addresses and phone numbers to those records, they, like the previous records will end up splashed all over O’Reilyland! Any judge that hands those records over to anyone should know that patient privacy will most likely be violated on nationwide media.
Bluntly and succinctly put Regular. And correct, I might add.
“Yeah. So Bill O’Reilly can put these womens pictures on his TV show.”
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Quit blowing smoke JR. It’s bad for you.
Uh yeah outie?
Billo’s exec producer goon ambushed Dr. Tiller at the Quick Trip less than a mile from my house.
And YOU outie still have your comment the other day to answer for.
Where you said each pregnancy was a “gift from God not to be trifled with”?
Is that what you would tell a rape victim?
Do you imagine your rhetoric would give comfort to the mother of an anacephalaptic baby?
Is that what you would tell a rape victim?
Do you imagine your rhetoric would give comfort to the mother of an anacephalaptic baby?
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This is a Sedgwick County Jury - there is no Kline, no O’Reilly.
They are asking for medical records with redacted privacy information.
Throwing in straw man arguments about other medical conditions or other irrelevant evidence is well - irrelevant.
Oh JR, there you go again. (A little Reagan reference there for ya)
You are the one who said that pro-life folks thought that babies were punishment.
And there you go making up more ridiculous scenarios.
“So Bill O’Reilly can put these womens pictures on his TV show.”
I probably underestimated anyone reading your comment. Even a mental midget would know that is just stupid. I didn’t need to point it out.
Ben,
Regarding Dr. Schneider, whether he’s innocent or guilty of overprescribing narcotics, one horrifying aspect of his prosecution has been the chilling effect on treatment of chronic pain patients. Many doctors are now refusing to prescribe anything effective to such patients; basically they’re being told to “take two aspirins and call me when the shitstorm is over.”
The thing is, the antis ARE winning. Which is why so many women are coming to Kansas to have their abortions, because they can’t get one in their home states. It’s not because the law doesn’t allow it, it’s because they’ve closed down every abortion doctor in those states.
They’ve decided if they can’t a woman’s right to choose finished thru the court, they’ll do it by shutting down any legal access at all by going after anyone who performs the procdures.
And then, when women are at the level of coat hangers and dumping babies in the dumpsters, then the antis can scream about how we must jail such a horrible woman.
We TOLD you any little thing you give them, they will use it for the big picture. This just shows how very serious those chipping away at laws have hurt already.
it’s a downright abomination to forbid people in pain relief.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re having to go buy illegal drugs now.
Political_mama
Posted April 10, 2008 at 9:11 am | Permalink
The thing is, the antis ARE winning. Which is why so many women are coming to Kansas to have their abortions, because they can’t get one in their home states. It’s not because the law doesn’t allow it, it’s because they’ve closed down every abortion doctor in those states.
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Proof PMom?
Let’s see some statistics from reliable sources.
Under National Healthcare, The Government will know EVERYTHING!
Yipppeeeee!
Maybe the Government will include abortion info in their census data. You know, how many abortions per address, per zip code, per town, etc…
This, students, is tortured logic.
“His lawyers say that will violate patient privacy, even if identifying information is redacted.”
abortion doctor
Oxymoron. “First do no harm”
I don’t know Fleet, who does the redacting?
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2008/mar/29/state_abortion_rate_decreases/
Close to half of the abortions were performed on women who were from outside of Kansas
Great income source for the state of Kanas then.
By all means, production should be maintained or even increased.
Tiller’s Women’s Health Care Services is among the few clinics in the United States that perform abortions in the late second and third trimesters. It draws women from across the country.
That’s the reason PMom, it has nothing to do with other states where Doctors appear to want to obey the law and not skate around it.
The concluding paragraphs of a speech by Ronald Reagan, on the 10th anniversary of Ros v Wade.
“I have often said we need to join in prayer to bring protection to the unborn. Prayer and action are needed to uphold the sanctity of human life. I believe it will not be possible to accomplish our work, the work of saving lives, “without being a soul of prayer.” The famous British Member of Parliament, William Wilberforce, prayed with his small group of influential friends, the “Clapham Sect,” for decades to see an end to slavery in the British empire. Wilberforce led that struggle in Parliament, unflaggingly, because he believed in the sanctity of human life. He saw the fulfillment of his impossible dream when Parliament outlawed slavery just before his death.
Let his faith and perseverance be our guide. We will never recognize the true value of our own lives until we affirm the value in the life of others, a value of which Malcolm Muggeridge says:. . . however low it flickers or fiercely burns, it is still a Divine flame which no man dare presume to put out, be his motives ever so humane and enlightened.”
Abraham Lincoln recognized that we could not survive as a free land when some men could decide that others were not fit to be free and should therefore be slaves. Likewise, we cannot survive as a free nation when some men decide that others are not fit to live and should be abandoned to abortion or infanticide. My Administration is dedicated to the preservation of America as a free land, and there is no cause more important for preserving that freedom than affirming the transcendent right to life of all human beings, the right without which no other rights have any meaning.”
I am not impressed by Mr. Lowden’s airy dismissal.
I want everyone who’s never lived in a small, uber-repressive Kansas enclave to be aware of the following: Privacy issues are extremely important.
21st century Wichita is markedly different than the 1970s s–thole where I grew up - something straight out of “The Magdalene Sisters” or something Tennessee Williams was inspired by. Dana Carvey drew acclaim for his hilarious “Church Lady” protrayal on SNL - I grew up with these hags. (I should probably get a cut of Dana’s profits, but what the hell….).
My pregnancy and abortion were kept secret; however, the RUMORS of my LONE relationship and enciente condition were enough to drive “The Naughty Nine” out of their unnatural habitat and into a 16-year-old’s personal life.
The Naughty Nine, paradoxically, were a cabal of ultra-conservative, stay-at-home, stir-the-cauldron, overweight, ugly-as-sin housewives - hideous old broads for whom eros had long since atrophied, if indeed it had ever existed.
One of their more infamous habits was keeping a scrapbook of newly-married couples, keeping track of their first child’s birth, and counting on their fat, grubby digits to see if any fornication had occurred. If it had, cruel and unusual punishment was meted out - to the female, never the male.
I experienced this full-force: sensational, grossly untrue rumors were flying about me - much to my acute anguish. When you’re very young, experiencing the sting of unrequited love for the very first time, dealing with a sexual sadist/impregnator, and struggling with pregnancy symptoms - The Naughty Nine were a wholly unwelcome force in my young life. (I hate their f–king guts to this day, just so we’re clear.)
If MEDICAL RECORDS are unveiled, can anyone imagine what could ensue? There are gargoyles in this culture who believe that shooting abortionists and their patients and staff is a really, groovy thing. Not only that - but there are people like the Naughty Nine in small towns all over this nation. Probably not in Wichita - but they’re prevalent enough. Probably not as prevalent as in the 1970s, but they do exist.
Mr. Lowden probably needs to consider these issues, and quickly. Until he does, I remain unimpressed with his endeavors.
Absolutely correct on both issues Jed. I have no clue what the situation is with Schneider - but I have some REAL problems with what is happening with his patients. And, as you note, with so many DRs becoming paranoid about prescribing pain meds.
It’s like so much in medicine - we have badly eroded the DR-patient relationship.
looking at the Tiller case I point to the FACT that right-winder O’Reilly disclosed much more than should be allowed. THAT is why I am opposed to giving OR more of his records. If I trusted that they would remain under wraps I might support the subpoena for records; unfortunately their track record goes against them.
Ben, what makes you think OR will get to see the Medical Records?
Aren’t these records going to the Grand Jury?
Is O’Reilly invited inside the Grand Jury Room? How about OR, are they allowed in the area where records are examined?
How about staying with “this case” and the facts on hand in this case and stop all this arm flailing.
“I don’t know Fleet, who does the redacting?”
I don’t know, Max, but if the identifying info is redacted, I don’t know if it would matter.
Tiller’s attorneys would do (supervise) the redacting.
That’s a big IF, if you don’t trust Government.
And I don’t.
I know that Operation Rescue was directing the drive to get enough signatures to enpanel a grand jury. Who are the members of the grand jury? How were they selected? I assumed that the work of this grand jury was not independent from OR.
Does anyone know?
Regular - all I know is that it has been the practice of the ’system’ to pass those records along to O’Reilly. That is how he got them before. As I noted clearly above “unfortunately their track record goes against them.”
As Ben noted the anti-abortion groups do not have a good record on patient privacy. This website has photos of several women going to Tiller’s clinic - their faces are obscured, but this tactic would seem to discourage women going there.
http://www.dr-tiller.com/
If the grand jury is made up of OR folk, I would oppose them getting the records in question.
If the grand jury is made up of OR folk, I would oppose them getting the records in question.
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Prove your accusations or stop speculating as a convenient excuse.
My search indicates that the jurors on a grand jury are selected from the same pool that make up regular trial juries. Usually grand juries last much longer than regular trials and thus represent more of a burden to the juror. This:
“There can be one important difference between trial jurors and grand jurors: Because (as the first section of the FAQ’s explains) grand juries tend to sit for a long time, grand jurors are often retired people or others whose work or home schedules allow them to spend the time required to serve on a grand jury. Most trials are relatively brief (a few days or a week, at most), so while serving on a trial jury is a burden, it is not as great a burden as serving on a grand jury that may sit for two or even three years (if it is a federal grand jury).”
from this site:
http://campus.udayton.edu/~grandjur/faq/faq2.htm
Because of the time burden, you’d have to wonder if members of a grand jury might have more of an investment in the outcome of an investigation than your typical juror. Hence, I think I’d be wary about giving them records that could be abused.
As far as proving who the jurors are, I don’t think that can be done. It would depend on how much of an effort is made to protect their identities. I am guessing there is an effort to protect the jurors’ identities. Does anyone know?
In a separate but not unrelated incident, anti-abortion activist Ron Brock has received an apology from Olathe Police Chief Janet Thiessen for the recent behavior of one of her officers.
I have seen Mr. Brock’s infamous red truck, and unless the truck which met my retinas belonged to someone else, my sentiments are uncomplicated: I cannot condone Mr. Brock’s tactics here. At least one graphic, hideous picture was clearly not related to abortion. I am not alleging that it was “faked.” I am not accusing anyone of unauthenticity. My position is this: It is not the face of abortion. It is, to be sure, the face of tragedy. Pictures such as these can inflict great pain on the vulnerable, the young, the old, and the not-so-vulnerable.
If Mr. Brock’s truck had been emblazoned with images that honored ALL LIFE - that honored his faith - and offered help to pregnant women instead of inflicting suffering, then I would be highly critical of the Olathe Police. As it is, I am unmoved.
This is not the sort of pro-life advocacy which I respect. I do not intend, however, to scream at the offending parties as I have in the past. That serves no purpose other than to induce remorse on my part.
I and countless others believe Mr. Brock is probably hurting his own cause more than he is aiding pregnant women. That’s the real irony here.
“Prove your accusations or stop speculating as a convenient excuse.”
I think the above qualifies as an bifucation fallacy:
http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html#burden
bifucation = bifurcation, sorry.
Just an observation from someone who stops by on a daily basis to read the various viewpoints on the topics at hand. As interesting as both sides voiceing their opinions, It never fails to turn into a festival of character assasinations and personal insults that play out every day. I appreciate the “intent” of this media/forum, but, well, it’s just not fun to read anymore. To those that i have enjoyed reading your opinions, thanks, to those that only come here to “stir the Pot”, enjoy your “net fame”, but in reality, i feel sorry for you. Thanks WE Blog for trying, but, without the ability to censor screen names from a readers standpoint, i must bid goodbye.
Well Steven Davis,
I don’t look at the circumstance as one originating from my personal opinion.
I try to put myself in the Grand Jury Room and from the view point of Justice.
If I find imbalance in the scales of justice one way or the other, I say it’s ‘no go’ regardless of which side it falls upon.
But to pander to speculation and some sort of hidden agenda is at best weak-minded and cries out that there is lack of faith in our justice system.
Abortions are legal for the most part and the exception being - “late term abortions” except as outlined by the law.
Let’s let the law examine whether or not that these late term abortions have been done within the confines of the law.
If they have been done within the law, then it’s over, no more from OR or any others.
If it has not been done within the law, find the reasons why it has not and then deal accordingly within the law.
Adding layers of divisive fluff does nothing for the legal argument.
“There is no blanket authority for the state to have any information they want,” responded Justice Lee Johnson.
I will keep that in mind as I fill out the income tax forms.
Regular, there were other clinics in other states, that have been shut down by the likes of OR. That is why they’re traveling here, because there is no access to services elsewhere.
Even doctors who perform abortions in other states simply don’t want to deal with the issue of late term abortions. Tiller’s willing to stand up for these women and address their need LEGALLY. That is why it is so important that we not let the OR folks win another battle.
Women in other states are already suffering, they just put a man in prison for helping his girlfriend do a home abortion. That’s another tragedy of the whole GD unborn victims of violence act…the mother asked him to do it. It was her choice.
This is the corner they’re backed into. Make no funding to allow them to get it, they’re trapped. Like the antis sneer and laugh at women as some divine punishment when they’re forced into pregnancy. Then the tragedy happens when a woman feels compelled to risk her own life to end the pregnancy, and they go after her as some criminal monster.
Mexico and Portugal finally lifted their bans on abortions despite their heavily Catholic following, because females were dying….literally.
The underlying issue with the Tiller case is not about privacy or a woman’s right to an abortion. It is about the rule of law and the failure of state professional boards to punish local corruption & influence peddling. Let’s assume that Tiller is run out of town and loses his medical license for failing to follow state regulations regarding obtaining an unbiased 2nd opinion about the necessity of having a late term abortion. A new abortionist could take over Tiller’s practice and continue to perform 3rd trimester abortions as long as the state regulations were followed. We never hear any scandals bout the handful of other abortionists who follow the law because they are not criminals.
I am extremely concerned that the pro choice & pro-life advocates are so focused on using the Tiller controversy to build their personal political empires that they are losing focus of the underlying state constitutional rights and human rights issues involved. It is imperative that Kansas citizens have the ability to convene a criminal grand jury to investigate allegations of political corruption, influence peddling and criminal activity by local law enforcement or regulatory enforcement agencies that our legislators and newspapers are too afraid to expose. Our state & federal judges, local-state-federal law enforcement agencies, district attorney, state attorney general and US attorneys have become so powerful that they intimidate attorneys to betray their clients.
If a few extreme pro choice advocates believe that a woman should be able to abort a healthy fetus or baby on demand with no questions asked, then they should have the courage to state their position instead of arguing that the Kansas grand jury laws are outdated and should be repealed. There will be a time when feminist groups will need to petition for a criminal grand jury to seek justice for a woman.
I have personal knowledge that the elitist judicial-law enforcement system covered up to protect a West Wichita family physician who allegedly drugged up, seduced and brutally raped his patient (whose son I coached in soccer). I have documents supporting criminal acts of perjury and alteration of documents to obstruct justice by Wichita police officials, juvenile court judges, SRS employees and employees at their subcontracting agencies in both child custody and CINC cases.
Last August State Rep. Jim Morrison told the weekly GOP Wichita Pachyderm Club meeting that he had illegally obtained a copy of a cancelled check to bribe a Wichita family law judge in a child custody case. Wichita Municipal Judge Bruce Brown was in attendance along with former Mayor Carlos Mayans, GOP County Party Executive Director Kelly Arnold, State Rep. Joe McClelland and Tamara Woods who is the local staffer for Senator Brownback’s office. Morrison also stated that he had a stack of documentation 12” tall about complaints about illegal or unethical actions by Wichita judges, prosecutors, attorneys and mental health officials.
I appreciate Wichita Eagle’s editor, Sherry Chisenhall, for allowing me to post my opinions uncensored for the most part. My little blogs entries are like messages in a bottle that I am trying to send to the east or west coast media to send in investigative reporters to come to Wichita to expose how nepotism, fascism and elitism has corrupted our law enforcement agencies, judges, attorneys, mental health professionals and media. Due to the extensive corruption there are no civil rights protections in our state except for the grand jury system. Wichita Bar Association attorneys are under tremendous pressure from the judges and their peers to sell out their clients. The Wichita Eagle recently changed its policy to require bloggers to pre-register. I suspect that the Eagle’s real motive in requiring bloggers to pre-register is to discourage citizens from making complaints on this blog. About 20 concerned citizens have been able to use this website as a forum to communicate and to encourage each other to serve as family law & juvenile court house observers.
In my opinion the top 2 officials at the Board of Healing Arts (Larry Buening & Mark Stafford) did not resign due to political pressure from self-serving, do-nothing, pro life GOP demagogues like Sen. Susan Wagle or State Rep. Brenda Landwehr. They resigned because of other political pressure. If you go back & check the previous blogs I posted & my e-mails to the 26 district court judges, I claim that I had proof that the BOHA delayed the investigation and discipline for the West Wichita family physician who was ultimately punished only with a 1 week suspension of his medical license. What really concerns me now is that I think that that the victim’s attorney, David Calvert, is running unopposed for district court judge as a reward by the corrupt system for not aggressively representing the victim in her civil lawsuit against the alleged rapist Westside doctor. Interestingly the doctor was represented in the civil suit by Wichita Bar Association president, Pam Clancy, who is married to a prominent heart surgeon, Dr. Ammar. Interestingly Clancy also successfully represented Schneider, the Haysville physician, in a civil suit. About a year ago, Clancy retired from practicing law and is the now president of the board of directors of the Wichita Children’s Home which has been involved in several controversial CINC cases.
After 18 months of pre-trial discovery, my friend’s case was settled out of court for an undisclosed amount so that my friend did not have the opportunity to have her day in court. However she did file a complaint with the BOHA forcing the West Wichita family physician to hire a Topeka attorney, Randy Forbes, to defend him before the BOHA. Interestingly Randy is a partner in small practice that specializes in administrative law. He also serves as the part-time general counsel for the Pharmacy Board, the Board of Optometry and the Dental board and is responsible for prosecuting unethical professionals. An air tight good old boy network exists at the BOHA, the Behavioral Science Board, the Office of Judicial Administration and the Commission on Judicial Qualifications and all other agencies to cover up criminal activity. Any blog reader can send me an e-mail and I’ll forward my documentation to support my allegations that mark Stafford intentionally procrastinated investigating the Westside doctor who allegedly drugged up and raped his patient.
While I at it, I’ll be glad to e-mail you documentation supporting an allegation that that District Court Judge Doug Roth conspired with Triplett Wolf Garretson partner, Rachel Pirner, to suborn forgery to steal real estate from a married couple so it could be resold at a discount to Michelle Borin-Devuono, who is the proprietor of the local topless bar – Michelle’s Beach House and to falsely imprison the victim, Todd Wait, for criminal contempt of court for complaining about the Roth & Pirner’s dishonesty. Judge Roth hand-picked criminal attorneys, Steve Manke & John Tapp to serve as the Wait’s court-appointed attorneys. Manke & Rapp refused to advocate for Todd & his wife (I assume due to political pressure). Interestingly I had a previous professional relationship with Rachel and even asked her to run for judge in early 2006 even though she is a Democrat and pro choice. I thought that she was honest and ethical. At the time Rachel was on the Kansas Bar Association’s Board of Directors and is married to Dave Grant, the news director for the local ABC affiliate, KAKE TV. I have recently spoken to Dave and will continue to plead with him for Rachel to become the first insider to expose the corruption in Wichita to the national media.
I also have documentation that I can e-mail out to anyone that Asst District attorney district attorney and Wichita Bar Association Musical Review Choreographer, Christine Ladner, conspired with Judge Rebecca Pilshaw to suborn perjury of court employees to obtain a felony arrest warrant against Joe Liddell, a disabled air force vet from Iowa who suffered a broken neck while on active duty. Joe was betrayed in 1999 by his attorney, Tripp Shawver, a prominent family law attorney. In 2000 Joe was arrested in Iowa and shackled while in transit back to Wichita where he was imprisoned for 2 days. Because Joe refused to accept a plea bargain for a crime that he never committed, Joe was released and sent back to Iowa. However the felony arrest warrant remained in effect for 8 years to intimidate Joe from returning to Wichita to defend his constitutional rights. 80% of Joe’s monthly disability pension was illegally garnished by district attorney Nola Foulston’s office for several years. Because of the outstanding falsely sworn arrest warrant, the Veterans Administration threatened to cut off Joe’s medical and drug benefits in 2004 forcing Joe to ask the Iowa Senators Grassley & Harkin to intercede.
An even more egregious human rights violation occurred two years later in 2001 when Juvenile Court Judge Tim Henderson assigned Mark Kahrs to represent Joe’s 14 year old son, David, in a criminal matter for stealing $180 from his Mom’s bank account. Henderson, Kahrs and Nola Foulston’s juvenile prosecutors allowed the court records to show a false name for the father so that Joe would not be contacted about his son’s difficulties. I believe that this was done to cover up for the previous criminal acts by Christine Ladner, Judge Rebecca Pilshaw and Tripp Shawver. Even though 14 year old, David, never had any previous criminal record, he spent 2 years in the worst juvenile criminal facilities including the Topeka Forbes facility. I heard through the grapevine that the Commission on Judicial Qualifications met last month and refused to punish Pilshaw for her criminal activity in the Liddell case. Last week end a candidate for district court judge told me that he heard that former Judge Richard Sanborn may challenge Pilshaw in the Democratic primary. I have already posted blog entries questioning the integrity of Pilshaw’s GOP challenger, Pat Walters, who appears to have been unofficially endorsed by Russ Jones and his weekly free Christian newspaper, the Christian Chronicle. Talk about a Hobson’s choice: Sanborn, Walters or Pilshaw.
I ran into Mark Kahrs at Ken Canfield’s inaugural Kansas Family Research Institute two weeks ago to ask him if he knew anything about a group of 18th jduicial district court judges who call themselves the Jesters and alledgedly have wild parties at the Broadview Hotel This may be unsubstantiated gossip, but opnt he other hand it cold be easily corroborated by hotel employees on an animous basis if is it true. At the forum I also sat at the same table with pro0life poltical activist and Kansas Republican Action Assembly President, Mark Gietzen (who is also on record complaining about the dishonesty of another corrupt court appointed child psychologist, Jeanne Erickson). I also sat across the table from Dr. Columbus Bryant who is a corrupt court-appointed forensic psychologist and his teen-aged daughter, Andra, and 6 feet away from State Rep. Steve Brunk and his wife who were at the next table. When the keynote speaker, Christian author - David Barton, quoted scriptures from Proverbs about what happens to a society which allows corrupt leaders to remain in power, I turned to Steve and asked him if he really believed this as Steve is a close political friend of residing family law Judge Tony Powell who also a member with Steve at Central Christian Community Church. In my opinion too many Christian conservatives (especially Ken Canfield and Christian Chronicle publisher, Russ Jones) are intentionally ignoring GOP establishment corruption so that they can build their political empires.
It seems silly to me that the Kansas Repubican Assembly headed by Kansas Naitnal Committee Woman, Helen Van Etten, is squabbling over influence with Mark Gietzen’s alternative conservative GOP group, the KRAA. Helen’s husband, Roger Van Etten, recently took early medical retirement from his position as a senior staff attorney for the Kansas Department of SRS. I met Roger & Helen at an Americans for Prosperity function last August. He told me that he is Christian and repeatedly went to state legislators over the years to privately tell them about the many scandals at the SRS. I hope this e-mail will encourage Roger to unbury his God given talents and life experience to help thousands of children who are being forced to take dangerous psychotropic drugs every day because they were taken away illegally from their parents and grandparents so that the SRS industry could support itself with federal reimbursements. I hope this e-mail will encourage Russ & Ken to do something real and meaningful. I will gladly e-mail out to them or anyone who contacts me.
I heard a rumor that the federal prosecutor in the Schneider case will file a motion to move the trial to any city and declare a mistrial. For the record I have been leaving messages on the office recorder of Schneider’s defense attorney, Laurence Williamson, encouraging him to tell the Scheiders that Williamson has a conflict of interest which could prevent him from aggressively defending the Schneiders him against the corrupt Wichita legal establishment. I have documentation that Laurence had first-hand knowledge about my ongoing complaints that his law partner, Sean Shores, intentionally refused to file a motion before a deadline so that I could go to trial to protect my parental rights and to expose the criminal acts or unethical acts of court appointed psychologist, Kim Kadel, or Wichita Psychiatric Consultants employee, David Seifert, after Shores had an unauthorized private discussion about my with then presiding family law judge, Eric Yost. Shores is a liar who wrote me an e-mail stating that he should not be responsible who missing the filing because the motion was lost in the mail. Shores or Williamson refused to provide me a copy of the motion that was lost in the mail and Shores did not even enter a motion of appearance until one month later. Even though Williamson is a young black attorney who won the 2006 award for courage by the local NAACP chapter, he another example of a self-righteous, hypocritical attorney who claims to a Christian attorney who cares about civil rights. The Shores Williamson law firm was fully aware of all of my allegations of previous illegal activity by other attorneys and court officials when they collected a large retainer. Shores did absolutely nothing by delay and later committed perjury. I’d be glad to also e-mail anyone proof of this including the out of state group that is supporting the Schneiders and advocates that pain victims should receive medication for chronic pain.
I also heard a rumor three weeks ago from former Mayor Bob Knight that Wichita Psychiatric Consultant, LLC, attorney, Ross Hollander, (who is a law partner with Tiller attorney Steve Joseph) dropped out of the Knight’s investment group ( former Sen. Rip Gooch, Knight & Joseph) to build the Mulvane casino with MGM. If it’s true I wonder if Ross’s withdrawal had anything to do with my previous Eagle blog entries accusing Hollander of suborning the perjury of Wichita Psychiatric Consultants psychologist, Alicia Landsverk, in a August 2006 custody trial before Judge Terry Pullman. Landsverk testified in August 2006 that her business partner, court appointed forensic psychologist, Marc Quillen, never owned a minority stock interest in Wichita Psychiatric Consultants even though the October 2005 transcript reflects that Quillen testified that his wife, Marilyn Harp, handled all of the tax accounting for the K-1 that he received from his stock ownership. The transcript form the August 2006 hearing in which I represented myself pro se to have my visitation restored, the Wichita Psychiatric Consultant attorney, Ross Hollander started objecting to my questions of Landsverk from the back of the court room (even though he had no standing with the court) and Judge Pullman refused to allow me to ask any more follow up questions after Landsverk committed perjury. I’d be glad to e-mail this documentation to anyone including the general counsel of the MGM Hotel Casino group.
Interestingly Quillen had written in his court-ordered March 2005 psychological evaluation of me that I am a delusional paranoid person who should be ordered to take psychotropic drugs from another court-appointed for complaining that his employee, David Seifert, was incompetent for putting my 6 year old son on Zoloft and Depacote for 4 months in 2003. What is remarkable is that Quillen’s partner, Landsverk truthfully testified in the August 2005 trail to take away my parental rights that she had told me in 2003 that Seifert and the WPC nurse practitioner, Kathleen Barrett, were not incompetent to be drugging up a 6 year old with Depacote and Zoloft. Within a year after the August 2006 trial to permanently take away my parental rights, the corrupt legal Kansas establishment rewarded Quillen for his dishonesty by appointed his wife, Marilyn Harp, to be Executive Director of Kansas Legal Services which is supposed to advocate for poor lower middle class parents before the corrupt juvenile district court judges throughout Kansas. I’d be happy to e-mail documentation of Landsverk perjury to anyone especially Steve Wagner at the Citizens Commission on Human Rights which seems to be the only out of state national organization that cares about thousands of children being illegally incarcerated and drugged up by the corrupt Kansas child protective industry..
The truth is a powerful weapon against corruption. Free speech and citizens’ grand jury are essential to protect every one’s freedom from the greedy, entrenched, fascist parasites in the Kansas legal, medical, mental health, child protective services and political establishments. The whole system will implode with one aggressive attorney or journalist who wants to expose the insanity and hypocrisy in Wichita.
I think that Judge Pilshaw could sentence a man this week to death for murdering his estranged wife. I hope this blog entry will get the attention of capital punishment opponents and ethics law professor from across the country to examine the corruption at the Commission on Judicial Qualifications which refuses to remove Pilshaw for her criminal actions. Despite the fact that Judge Pilshaw was the judge who took away my parental rights based solely on a letter from Columbus Bryant, I harbor no animosity to her. If you hate one judge or attorney, you have to hate them all which is very tiring and unproductive. I will encourage Pilshaw to be the first judge to come forward to expose the corrupt good old boy system that is endangering the psychological and physical well being of so many children in Kansas so that attorneys, mental health professionals and SRS workers can make a lot of money.
In the meantime I will challenge district attorney, Nola Foulston, or Attorney General Steve Six, to file criminal charges against me for defamation. I believe that liberals & conservatives must declare a truce on the abortion issue by agreeing to disagree and instead start a grass roots movement to reform the legal, medical, mental health and child protective industries in Kansas. There is the famous saying from the Serenity prayer about having the humility to accept the things that you cannot change and the courage to change the times that you can change. If we work together we can demand that Kansas has the least corrupt courts and stare agencies in the country which would give us a tremendous competitive economic advantage over the other 49 states. It could happen very quickly and easily with a little humility from Sherry and a little courage from the investigative reporters at the Eagle. Thanks again for taking the time to read this long entry and send me an e-mail if you want documentation.
Bill McKean kiakahahaha@yahoo.com 316 293-6079
“You are the one who said that pro-life folks thought that babies were punishment.”
For a great many “pro life” people, that is simply a fact. Oh they’d NEVER admit it.
Do you stand accused?
“…see a baby as a blessing from God not to be trifled with.”
That IS your sentiment isn’t it?
Political_mama
Posted April 10, 2008 at 1:07 pm | Permalink
Regular, there were other clinics in other states, that have been shut down by the likes of OR. That is why they’re traveling here, because there is no access to services elsewhere.
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PMom, being neither a Physician nor or an Attorney, I cannot speak to the technical aspects of the case.
However, as a private citizen, I can speak to the common sense aspects of the case. Which are, that a Grand Jury was convened under the laws of Kansas for the purposes of looking into allegations of misconduct as defined by Kansas law by person or persons associated with the Tiller Clinic.
I know pregnancy causes stress to females, but not being a Psychiatrist, I have no idea if a pregnancy would “threaten” the life of a pregnant female. It most likely does or their wouldn’t be an exception to the law for it.
I think the question here, is that minimal contact or perhaps no contact or perhaps even collusion was made between Tiller and his coordinating Physician to “fudge” medical entries in order that a woman could get a late term abortion.
Perhaps I’m all wet on the issue, but it appears to me that “Tiller doest protest too much” if he is indeed innocent of the specific charges.
“Perhaps I’m all wet on the issue, but it appears to me that “Tiller doest protest too much” if he is indeed innocent of the specific charges.”
Is Sedgwick County going to reimburse Dr. Tiller for his expenses when it is found that there is not validity to the charges?
Will OR start another grand jury petition when this one fails?
Will they just start another when that one fails?
Is the objective to bankrupt Tiller with legal costs? Have him just give up the fight because it is too expensive?
This is just harassment.
Privacy is not the issue. At issue is a national crisis in the breakdown of law enforcement in Kansas abortion mills, affecting thousands of Kansas and out-of-state mothers every year who are victimized, traumatized, and exploited, and suffer the consequences for decades, or for a lifetime. The evidence of ongoing heinous crimes is not in question, because judges, victims, lawyers, medical experts, and pro-life eye-witnesses have already publicly attested to that. What is in question is whether Kansas government can solve this crisis with justice, in spite of the blood-stained abortion mill money lavishly spread throughout it.
Parkay, you are just so full of shit.
It (privacy) was an issue with me.
It surely was an issue with my mother, who couldn’t bear to have a pregnant daughter and have this be known.
However, if what you are alleging is true, then certainly I am being selfish here. Mine has not been the only abortion experience; moreover, the 1970s are long gone, thank Christ.
But privacy was probably an issue when it came to the voluminous hate mail I received on 2/14/99, the 24th anniversary of my abortion.
I shall concede that it isn’t the only issue. But it certainly wasn’t a non-issue.
And in the opinion of my present physician, it probably wasn’t a non-issue, either.
I just read Parkay’s post and am victimized, traumatized, and exploited, and will suffer the consequences for decades, or for a lifetime. There is only so much BS one can take.
Parkay=Troy Newman, President of Operation Rescue.