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- By Phillip Brownlee
- Posted April 8, 2008 at 6:03 a.m.
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Good morning Kansas. Hung over?
Well, I’ve got to admit. Even the Songbird has to admit it.
The adorable and witty Adam Carolla isn’t much of a dancer. I don’t want him to be voted off this evening, but it’s probable he will be.
Even judge Len admitted what I’ve always attested: The Very First Man is lovable. (The Very First Woman, conversely, has a douche named after her.)
It’s an inveterate trait with me: When I adore someone, I don’t see his/her faults.
When I wrote several book reviews back in 2001 while laid up with a back injury, my efforts weren’t objective - they were gushing and adoring. Because the books were written about a precious little Scottish Fold feline - and they warm my heart to this day.
At least I warned my readers beforehand: If you’re looking for criticism and/or objectivity, you won’t find it here, I intoned. One of my reviews was chosen by Amazon.com as a “Spotlight Review”, so I guess my efforts weren’t too poorly written.
Mr. Carolla is just so darned CUTE - that moustache last night was great! I have to admit, though, I won’t miss Little Mormon Twinkletoes, whose propensity for bragging about her virginity is matched by her gracelessnses when she isn’t dancing. The Very First Dude deserves better.
“Did I brag about my purity when I actually WAS a virgin?” I asked myself last night. Probably not - since it was forcibly plundered - before I had a chance to think about lording it over other women like the anvil of the gods.
Now here’s a sick thought: Those reform school grads my ex keeps tied up in the basement to help him go pee-pee should send him to “Dancing’s” set. Let Little Miss Mormon deal with HIS skanky a$$. Then she’ll REALLY be traumatized.
I don’t think the Book of Mormon will help her much when the dude starts piddling himself when he’s supposed to be hoofin’ it up.
And that wheelchair and/or back brace isn’t very telegenic, neither……………………………………….
Anyone else think Petraeus won’t be participating in a love fest this time when he reports to congress? Wonder if anyone will bring up the ‘benchmarks’?
Doubt he’s too concerned as he will soon be out of Iraq and at the U.N.
Repubs will undoubtedly be drooling all over him though.
Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich on Monday signed into law a measure designed to ensure the presidency goes to the winner of the popular vote, joining Maryland and New Jersey in promising to award electoral votes to the candidate with the most support nationwide.
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/104-04072008-1515355.html
That sounds like it could unconstitutional lindainks55. :)
Phantom I too think this is going to be interesting, I have watched several of the Senate’s sub-committees hearings before hand. With the information that Maliki is using the national security forces as his own Militia. That Iraq is going in the direction of a Somalia like country ran by war lords rather then the central government.
America are you watching?
John McCain is on TV right now saying that we must maintain a military presence in Iraq forever.
THIS while gas grows ever more expensive.
We have all the liabilities of an empire. But only a few American companies are seeing any of the benefits of same.
The US must get out of Iraq.
Looks like he is reading his script. Even with a script to keep him from blunders he doesn’t sound convincing. He sounds, well, lame and same, without substance and without solutions.
“John McCain is on TV right now…”
jr:
Do you get to watch TV at work?
That’s a pretty good gig!
Editorial by Kathleen parker titled “McCain right about Iraq,” in this morning’s paper made me shake my head in amazement. She goes on and on about her online Iraqi journalist acquaintance changing from this position to that position, holding this opinion and then that opinion, changing with the circumstances. The times when America must leave Iraq are spoken of, followed by times when they shouldn’t. The whole piece is about knowing no clear way to end the bloodbath Then she sums up (after all the words of waffling!) that now finally the path ahead is clear. Stay and keep doing what has been done with no success.
This was definitely one of her more stupid editorials.
As tax day approaches, it would be interesting to calculate how many murders we each are responsible for in the name of the American gov’t who kills “for freedom and democracy” of course.
Let’s go with a very, very conservative 100,000 innocent civilian deaths caused by the American invasion of Iraq.
I want a picture of the child that my money killed, like those overseas “sponsor a child” adoption deals. I want letters from his family telling me what he or she wanted to do when they grew up, before the five hundred bomb slammed into their living room.
Sh!t, I paid for the murder. A letter and a photo isn’t too much to ask for all my taxes.
Heheh, Linda.
I once wrote a LTTE (which I never bothered to send in) entitled, “Kathleen Parker, Idiot.”
She’s living proof you don’t have to be smart to be successful.
So about that global cooling and the shrill global warming alarmists. Never let a fact stand tall when it doesn’t align with what is making you money.
whoops. Here is the link.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/04/07/climate-activist-got-bbc-change-global-temperatures-decrease-article
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Sol–
You’d have to be nearly brain-dead to think that anyone is making money warning of catastrophic global warming.
How’d Exxon do last year?
Record profits for any corporation in history?
Why, yes.
So don’t be an ass. All the big money is shilling for the fossil fuel industry.
“This would mean global temperatures have not risen since 1998, prompting some to question climate change theory.”
“Mr Jarraud told the BBC that the effect was likely to continue into the summer, depressing temperatures globally by a fraction of a degree.”
“This would mean that temperatures have not risen globally since 1998 when El Nino warmed the world.”
BTW, re: your “newsbuster” article–
Maybe the figures were revised because they were wrong.
What was the original source?
Sol,
Why do you think the GW alarmists changed their battle cry to “climate change” rather than “Global Warming?”
It’s because they were hedging their bets. That is, if the temperature went either way, they could say, “See, man is causing blah blah…”
Some peer reviewed science eh? :)
“brain-dead”
Ostrich comes to mind when I see you write this. Government grants? Private donations? Carbon credits? Speaking fees? You aren’t that stupid are you capn? Get the sand out of your eyes and ears. Follow the money.
And you called me brain dead capn? Both articles are listed in the link I provided. The link to the BBC page is in there too. There were no figures that were altered.
Damn. Get that sand out of your eyes !!! Knee jerk response while uninformed. Sounds like a shrill alarmist to me :-)
“Follow the money” leads right back to Big Oil and Big Coal.
They’ve got more money than God.
And Al Gore? Yeah, heard he applied for food stamps. His $10,000 utility bill is crushing. You think it is cheap to fly around the world in a private jet?
Do as I say…not as I do…
The idea that rag-tag groups of tree-huggers like the Sierra Club is a real power against Exxon-Mobile . . . well, you’d have to be a CON to believe that.
Al Gore’s house has been completely re-tooled to make use of the latest green technology.
But keep going with that six year old story–fudging the facts are what you deniers do best . . .
Congress To Question Big Oil Profits
Seems to me Big Oil has its own problems.
http://www.manufacturing.net/News-Congress-To-Question-Big-Oil-Profits.aspx
What a problem!
I wish I had this . . . uh . . . “problem” . . .
“Profits too high.”
Lord, how will they ever survive?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp
But keep going with that six year old story–fudging the facts are what you deniers do best . .
Ya whiffed on that one scooter
An Inconveniently Easy Headline: Gore’s Electric Bills Spark Debate
The group cited some damning kilowatt-consumption figures — 221,000 for the Gores in 2006, compared with the American average of 10,656, for instance — which, it said, were obtained from the Nashville Electric Service. It put the Gores’ average monthly electric bill at $1,359.
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/02/28/an-inconveniently-easy-headline-gores-electric-bills-spark-debate/
6 year old story huh?
The Alarmists are blaming the bad old El Nino and La Ninja for screwing up their perfect plan.
Odd, those oscillations were always there. The only thing that changed was the GORACLE mantra of Global Warming. :)
What’s your dog in the fight there solie?
Oil stocks?
Or… is it just you are a sucker for lost causes?
Denying that there is climate change is just about as lost a cause as the candidacy of Ron Paul.
Oh there is money and a lot of noise. But ya boil it down and all you find is a handful of kooks.
“…all you find is a handful of kooks.”
Agree. And Al Gore is at the top of the list.
JR,
Lost cause in Ron Paul? Nah, you whiffed on that one too scooter. He won’t get the nod, but you keep watching him.
I’d rather support someone who stands by virtue instead of lying through her teeth damn near every time she opens her mouth.
If Big Oil is screwing America, I hope that Congress lays into them so damn hard they nearly bankrupt. I want off of oil just as bad as you shrill alarmists.
But, unlike you JR, I don’t follow liars. I seek the truth.
Try it once or twice. You might like it. Just don’t expect it from a Clinton.
You seem reading challenged there “Hud”.
It is an accepted fact that global climate change is happening and that human activity has a role in it.
NASHVILLE, Tennessee (AP) — Al Gore, who was criticized for high electric bills at his Tennessee mansion, has completed a host of improvements to make the home more energy efficient, and a building-industry group has praised the house as one of the nation’s most environmentally friendly.
Al Gore recently won the Nobel Peace Prize for his work on global climate change.
The former vice president has installed solar panels, a rainwater-collection system and geothermal heating. He also replaced all incandescent lights with compact fluorescent or light-emitting diode bulbs — even on his Christmas tree.
“Short of tearing it down and staring anew, I don’t know how it could have been rated any higher,” said Kim Shinn of the U.S. Green Building Council, which gave the house its second-highest rating for sustainable design.
Gore’s improvements cut the home’s summer electrical consumption by 11 percent compared with a year ago, according to utility records reviewed by The Associated Press. Most Nashville homes used 20 percent to 30 percent more electricity during the same period because of a record heat wave.
Shinn said Gore’s renovations are impressive because his home, which is more than 80 years old, had to meet the same rigorous standards as new construction.
“One of the things that is tremendously powerful about what the Gores have done is demonstrate that you can take a home that was a dog, an absolute energy pig, and do things to correct that,” Shinn said.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/gore.home.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
So capn, about ole Gore’s house?
If you respect practicing what you preach, then by golly you support Bush. His ranch is far ‘greener’ than your hero’s place will ever be.
Okay, it wasn’t years old–I was wrong about that– but it was still old.
The CONs who attacked Gore in Jan-Feb last year KNEW damn well that he was already updating the house.
When those updates were completed in October, they made no attempt to correct the former story.
Typical.
Bush’s house was built green from the ground up.
Bush didn’t buy it for that reason.
He just needed an instant ranch for the cameras, and he got one.
cut the home’s summer electrical consumption by 11 percent compared with a year ago
WOOOOOOOOW !!! Give that man a Nobel !!!
Funny that the story capn provides fails to mention kilowatt usage. Wonder why that is. Oh wait, here it is…
The typical Nashville home uses about 1,300 kilowatt hours a month.
Vs.
10,000 by Gore. Do the math…
Gore for using an average of 16,000 kilowatt hours a month
but Gore’s power consumption decreased by 6,890 kilowatt hours,
Funny how we went from a shrill GW alarmist strong arming the BBC to Gore. Now that Gore is again proven to be an energy hog, wonder what the alarmists will detract to next?
Care to talk about the carbon foot print of Gore’s private flights?
The GORACLE must be doing something wrong if all he got was 11 percent.
I re-insulated my house, put in new windows and doors, sealed up leaks and my utility bill is “half of what it was in the winter and about one-third less of what it was in the summer.”
Of course, I don’t keep “heated pool rooms” like the GORACLE does. :)
“Bush’s house was built green from the ground up.”
Sounds like an environmentally friendly purchase then ;-)
“Give that man a Nobel !!!”
A SECOND one?
Probably he merits it.
Without the direct actions of Vice President Al Gore, you have no internet to post on.
It is an accepted fact that global climate change is happening and that human activity has a role in it.
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That’s weaselly language there JR. “Climate change” could be cooling or warming and “human activity” could be massive to miniscule and still be true under that statement.
By Noel Sheppard | February 20, 2007 - 19:42 ET
Many conservatives are familiar with a marvelous book by Peter Schweizer entitled “Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy.” In it, Schweizer detailed how America’s top liberals are famous for not practicing what they preach.
On Sunday’s “Hannity’s America,” the host demonstrated how the country’s leading global warming alarmist, Dr. Al Gore, is a perfect example of a liberal who doesn’t come close to following the lofty environmental ideals he demands of the rest of us (video available here).
At issue was the inherent absurdity of a self-righteous politician complaining about the dangers of greenhouse gases while he flies fly around the world in private airplanes:
http://newsbusters.org/node/10951
If America has become weaker, as to the dollar value and our sacraficing our resources, why has there not been an attack on us while we are down? I dont want one, I was just curious. If Iraq, Saddam, and Al-Queda struck when we were strong, why have they not struck while we are weaker? What is the ultimate goal of achievement in Iraq that will strenghten us as America? Where does a stronger Iraq benefit us as America? Do we remember that the oil reserve or underground oil shelf is under Saudia Arabia, Iraq and Iran? The first Gulf War was done because Saddam stated “Saudi Arabia over pumped the underground shelf of the shared oil shelf. He felt this breeched the aggreement between the countries. With Irag at War Saudi Arabia is free to pump all they want. Example, your neighbor digs straight down and finds gold under their land. They have rights to the gold straight down within their yard space/property lines. If they tunnel over into the gold under your property lines you have the right to file suit on them. Well, oil is a liquid. If someone pumps out liquid from one end of a resevoir it then moves the rest of the liquid towards them. This is “claim jumping” or breech of contract. Example, a river is on more than one property. The guy upstream dams the river to hold back water. The guy downstream can file suit because they dont get the water they need for their property. Also, if the guy downstream opens up and widens the river into a big holding area causing the water to flow faster and more of it all at once the guy upstream can also file suit. This is contracted and monitoered all the time. This also is done state to state. I am not condoning Saddam Hussien. I am only stating facts. He felt Saudi Arabia pumped more oil per day than aggreed on. He recated. Was it properly acted upon? I dont feel so. Did he have the right to be upset? Yes, should he have done other things? Yes. Is Saudi benefiting from this breech of contract? Yes. Is Iran loosing oil reserves do to the overpumping by contract of a shared oil reserve of crude oil? Yes. Do we have the right to tell them to get over it and profit from stealing from them with Saudi? NO!!!! Please look at all angles, bring the Troops Home!!!!!! Herbert West III, west.herb@yahoo.com P.S. Again, I don not support Saddams actions at all!!! I do acknowledge his anger in the breech of contract.
If we were to calculate the amount of carbon emitted from Al Gore’s trip from Nashville to San Francisco, it would be 45,000 pounds of carbon. From Camarillo to San Fransico [sic], it would be 10,000 pounds of carbon, for a total of 55,000 pounds of carbon.
Notably the average car emits .916 lbs. of CO2/ gallon vs. Al Gore’s 21 lbs. of CO2/gallon in his jet. So for the amount of carbon and gasoline that Al Gore emitted, the average family could travel back and forth from Nashville to San Francisco in a Station Wagon 15 times. Again, they could do that 15 times just to equal Al Gores “damage to the Planet” in one day. Worst of all, Sean Hannity and Fox News found out that there were 112 commercial alternatives that Al Gore could have flown to reach that exact destination.
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/09/10/will-media-report-al-gore-s-hypocritical-private-plane-flights
The message comes across loud and clear: The Gores are rich, and rich people are going to burn a lot of energy. They won’t let their belief in global warming crimp their lifestyle.
That’s why “Inconvenient Truth” producer Laurie David can boast on the movie Website that she is “committed to stopping global warming,” denounce people who drive SUVs — and still fly in private Gulfstream jets. (Having been blasted in the press for her high-flying ways, David told ABC last year that she was cutting back on her private-plane travel. Talk about commitment.)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/03/gores_crusade_ends_at_his_fron.html
Oh OK.
I shoulda figured solie for one of the “Hannitized” That explains a lot.
Uh yeah,
“Hannity’s America” has also done features on demon possession among other things.
Hannity is a complete loon.
It’s sort of like the Clinton’s charitable donations Sol.
You know where the largest amount of their “charitable” (cough) donations went?
The Clinton Presidential Library…10 million bucks worth…
Of which, the Clinton’s completely control and can use as their political driven speech fund driver.
That, and getting the Prince of Dubai to donate twelve million dollars for speaking (cough) engagements.
Hannity is a complete loon.
Won’t argue there, but facts is facts. And about the rest of the posted articles?
And about that liar you support JR? Not attacking you, just your candidate. I don’t understand how you can continue to support a candidate that blatantly lies, tells stories she has not fact checked, etc. etc. I really just don’t get it.
Another female employee of the military contractor KBR has come forward with allegations of rape in Iraq. The woman, identified by the pseudonym “Lisa Smith” says two colleagues raped her at a southern Iraqi military base in January. She says a supervisor told her to “keep quiet” or face danger. “Lisa Smith” will be testifying publicly tomorrow before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Last year, former KBR employee Jamie Leigh Jones sued KBR and its former parent company Halliburton after she says she was drugged and gang-raped by employees of the company in Baghdad. Today, in their first joint interview, we speak to both of these women who have bravely come forward with their stories. We also speak with journalist Karen Houppert who broke the story of “Lisa Smith” in The Nation magazine.
http://www.democracynow.org/
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SolDevVB
Posted April 8, 2008 at 8:09 am | Permalink
So about that global cooling and the shrill global warming alarmists. Never let a fact stand tall when it doesn’t align with what is making you money.
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Having read the link one can come to a conclusion either way: there is a short term cooling going on this year due to El Nino, or it’s a blip in the current warming trend. It’s basically a non-issue.
this year due to El Nino
La Nina actually. Temps have failed to rise since 1998.
The point of my post was that when this fact is brought to light, the shrill alarmists strong arm the BBC to suppress that fact.
US mortgage crisis may cost 945 bln dlrs worldwide: IMF
The International Monetary Fund said Tuesday the worldwide losses stemming from the US subprime mortgage crisis could hit 945 billion dollars as the impact spreads in the global economy.
The IMF, in a particularly stark biannual report, said that falling US housing prices and rising delinquencies on the residential mortgage market could lead to losses of 565 billion dollars.
Combined with other categories of loans originated and securities issued in the United States related to commercial real estate, the consumer credit market, and corporations “increases aggregate potential losses to about 945 billion dollars,” it said.
“The crisis is spreading beyond the US subprime market — namely to the prime residential and commercial real estate markets, consumer credit, and the low- to high grade corporate credit markets,” the IMF said in releasing its Global Financial Stability Report.
While the US remains the epicenter, “financial institutions in other countries have also been affected, reflecting the same overly benign global financial conditions and to varying degrees — weaknesses in risk management systems and prudential supervision.”
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/US_mortgage_crisis_may_cost_945_bln_04082008.html
Being as how the republicans used to blame Clinton for every negative blip on the financial screen: Thanks a billion Bush!
State Dept. Renews Blackwater Contract in Iraq Despite Pentagon Labeling Sept. Baghdad Killing of 17 Civilians “A Criminal Event”
The State Department has announced it is extending the private military firm Blackwater’s contract in Baghdad for another year. The news comes despite an ongoing FBI investigation into the September 16th shooting in Baghdad where Blackwater guards were accused of killing seventeen Iraqi civilians. An earlier investigation by the Pentagon found that all seventeen Iraqis were killed as a result of unprovoked and unjustified fire by Blackwater operatives. We speak with journalist Jeremy Scahill, author of the bestselling book, Blackwater: The Rise of the World’s most Powerful Mercenary Army. Scahill recently confronted the vice president of Blackwater about the September 16th shootings.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/4/7/state_dept_renews_blackwater_contract_in
. . . La Nina . . . my bad. Need coffee! Nevertheless, the oceans temps are rising, which will increase land temps over time. Whether that will translate into global warming is something the climatologists can figure out.
JM Walker,
Did you miss the 3000 robots which indicated to NASA that ocean temps are not rising?
US Drafts Document for Open-Ended Military Presence in Iraq
The Guardian newspaper reports it has obtained a controversial draft agreement between the US and Iraqi governments that would allow for an open-ended US military presence in Iraq. The draft strategic framework is intended to replace the existing UN mandate. It authorizes the US to “conduct military operations in Iraq and to detain individuals when necessary for imperative reasons of security” without time limit. Iraqi critics point out that the agreement contains no limits on numbers of US forces, the weapons they are able to deploy, their legal status or powers over Iraqi citizens, going far beyond long-term US security agreements with other countries.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/4/8/headlines#4
Get your Global Warming discusions in now, before Cosmos leaves!
Hurry up! Before he’s gone!
Doesn’t the land warm faster then the water?
Any long term trend would be confirmed by changes in deep ocean temperatures.
Land temperatures change more rapidly and have more variability, thus making long-term trends almost impossible to predict based on only land data.
Course, the air temperature changes the fastest, and thus the GW Alarmists use air temp data to validate their panic alarms.
How’s that global ice sheet doing, btw?
Shiite cleric threatens to end militia’s cease-fire, cancels protest
“The Iraqi government should know that the Mehdi Army will be hand in hand with the Iraqi people to provide them with all security, stability, independence, liberation, unity … that they need,” al-Sadr said on his Web site. “And if interest requires ending the freeze to implement our goals, beliefs, religion, principles and nationalism, we will do that later.”
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/04/08/iraq.soldiers/index.html
http://celebrating200years.noaa.gov/breakthroughs/warming_ocean/welcome.html
“In 2000, the journal Science published “Warming of the World Ocean,” the first paper to report the results of the NODC ocean warming study. In the article, NODC scientists concluded that the world ocean had potentially absorbed 20 x 1022 joules, and warmed 0.06 degrees Fahrenheit. (They revised the energy absorption figure downward to 14.5 X 1022 in a 2005 paper entitled “Warming of the World Ocean, 1955-2003,” in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.). The temperature increase appears to be very small until we consider that the estimated energy input is equivalent to approximately 10 million thunderstorms, 100,000,000 Hiroshima-size atomic bombs, or burning approximately 1,000 trillion barrels of oil (more than are known to exist)!
Put in other terms, the sudden release of this energy from the ocean would warm the bottom 10 km (6.2 mi) of the atmosphere approximately 22 degrees Celsius (40 degrees Fahrenheit). “
Nathan,
No. I am aware of it, but since the oceans levels have risen 1/2 inch, and it usually takes warm water to do that (warm water expands), the reason is still puzzling. Shows how much we don’t know.
As I’ve said along: I’m not sure man is causing warming, but a warming trend is happening. And instead of bickering over who or what, plans should be made to deal with it, if it does turn into a major climate nightmare. In other words, “Be Prepared.” To NOT do so, is courting another Katrina disaster on a major scale.
Sol, I just can’t agree with you on Gore’s house. My reasoning is
“The median income for a household in the city was $39,797, and the median income for a family was $49,317. Males had a median income of $33,844 versus $27,770 for females. The per capita income for the city was $23,069. About 10.0% of families and 13.0% of the population were below the poverty line, including 19.1% of those under age 18 and 10.5% of those age 65 or over. 4.6% of the civilian labor force is unemployed.
Because of its relatively low cost of living and large job market, Nashville has become a popular city for immigrants”
It’s somewhat obvious that Gore doesn’t live in an ‘average home for nashville. I don’t imagine many of the 13% below poverty level do much late night entertaining, opting to nod early when the sun goes down to put in their 16 hours again, tomorrow.
Gotta admit, on the face of it, it is a bit damning. Beyond the face, it’s somewhat reasonable. I’m kinda curious what billy ray cyrus’ electric bill is…
“How’s that global ice sheet doing, btw?”
It recovered a bit over the winter but is still far smaller than in the past:
http://www.wunderground.com/climate/
Also - what ice there is is much thinner than normal:
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=923&tstamp=200804
“To NOT do so, is courting another Katrina disaster on a major scale.”
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Come on JM, global warming had nothing to do with Katrina.
Dubai crown prince buys camel for record 2.7 mln dlrs
The crown prince of the United Arab Emirates of Dubai has bought a female camel for a record 2.72 million dollars, an organiser at a camel beauty pageant said on Monday.
Sheikh Hamdan bin Mohammed bin Rashed al-Maktoum “bought camels… worth 16.5 million dirhams (4.49 million dollars), including a female camel… for 10 million dirhams (2.72 million dollars),” Hamad bin Kardoum al-Amiri said.
Amiri, quoted by the official WAM news agency, made the remarks on the sidelines of the nine-day beauty pageant which opened on Wednesday in the UAE capital of Abu Dhabi.
More than 10,000 camels — including females which are the fasting racing camels — from across the Gulf are competing for prize money totalling around 9.5 million dollars. One hundred cars are also up for grabs.
The contest is part of a camel festival in Abu Dhabi that aims to celebrate and preserve the region’s cultural heritage.
Oil-rich Abu Dhabi, one of seven emirates that make up the UAE federation, produced the world’s first test-tube purebred camel and has begun using remote-controlled robot riders in its camel races in place of child jockeys.
Dubai crown prince buys camel for record 2.7 mln dlrs
Here in the states they’re only $3.20 a pack if you buy the carton.
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Posted April 8, 2008 at 10:31 am | Permalink
“To NOT do so, is courting another Katrina disaster on a major scale.”
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Come on JM, global warming had nothing to do with Katrina.
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Good grief, out, where did I say anything about GW causing Katrina? Katrina was a disaster, no matter the cause, because of the LACK OF PLANNING! Learn to read.
ghotiphaze,
And we complain about high prices !!
JM Walker,
So, what are you driving?
Yes, Nathan, we get it. You have money comin’ outta your (!) so can go out and buy the most expensive fuel-efficient hybrid on the market. I’ll pat your back so you don’t throw your shoulder out.
(Ironic, isn’t it, that you only bought it for the bragging rights and not for the nobel purpose of being good for the environment. Do you also have a 57 Edsel on blocks that you run 24/7 to pay your oil baron buddies?)
Ghotiphaze,
I drive a dakota with a 4.7 liter V8.
Just checking to see if JM Walker is preparing like he wants everyone else too.
Wondert if it was filtered or unfiltered???
I drive a guzzler, too. However, because I can’t afford, nor is it convenient, to my life needs to have a hybrid (I’d need at least two and drive both at the same time) I find other ways to make a small contribution. Car pool. Walk. combine errands. Just don’t go anywhere.
One small aspect doesn’t define the whole picture.
Bob, at the price, you’d better go filtered. Get more without burning your fingers.
Anybody here who has ever rode their bike to work?
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Posted April 8, 2008 at 12:52 pm | Permalink
Anybody here who has ever rode their bike to work?
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I did when I lived overseas.
Was actually quicker than driving a car because I could cut through woodland bike paths.
Got a little bit soggy and cold sometimes, but parking was easy. :)
Anybody here who has ever rode their bike to work?
Many times. About 3 miles. The distance wasn’t much, but there was a 3 block dip about 1/2 way. The downhill was nice, unfortunately it came BEFORE that 3 block climb.
I have, in the last 4 weeks, gotten by on $20 worth of gas, Nathan. Beat that:-)
More on the bushonomy:
“On consumer optimism, the picture is fast deteriorating.
Investor’s Business Daily and TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence said their economic optimism index fell to 39.2 in April from March’s 42.5. That was well below the 50 level that separates pessimism from optimism.”
Also, sales of pre-existing homes at an all time low since tracking began in 01.
JM Waler,
Not the question. What do you drive?
Anybody here who has ever rode their bike to work?
I fly alone in a Gulf Stream IV. The trip would be 47 miles by car one way. But the GS4, it is 120 miles. Plus the limo ride to and from the air strip.
Y’know, JM, 5 bucks a week is pretty good gas mileage in the Winnebago you drive.
Sol, that immigrant slingshot on Mythbusters would be cheaper. Carbon footprint is small, but the splatter pattern is HUGE!
My commute is 7 miles one way. I’ve only managed to ride in about 5 times this year. But riding season is here.
If is wasn’t for La Nina, I could have rode in all winter long! :)
I pedal faster in cold weather, and take my time in warm.
“I fly alone in a Gulf Stream IV. The trip would be 47 miles by car one way. But the GS4, it is 120 miles. Plus the limo ride to and from the air strip.”
So, you name is ALan Paulson?
Sol just flies the gulf to pool with his buddy Travolta–his 747 won’t fit on Jabara runway.
*ducks*
Except from Cliff Schecter’s new book The Real McCain:
“Perhaps the most remarkable story of McCain’s temper involved Arizona Congressman Rick Renzi. Two former reporters covering McCain, one who witnessed the following events and one who confirmed the facts provided by the first, relayed it to me as follows: In 2006, the Arizona Republican congressional delegation had a strategy meeting. McCain repeatedly addressed two new members, congressmen Trent Franks and Rick Renzi, as ‘boy.’ Finally, Renzi, a former college linebacker, rose from his chair and said to McCain, “You call me that one more time and I’ll kick your old ass.” McCain lunged at Renzi, punches were thrown, and the two had to be physically separated. After they went to their separate offices, McCain called Renzi and demanded an apology. Renzi refused. Apparently this posture made McCain admire him, as they became fast friends.”
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_camp_lashes_out_at_reports_0408.html
It seems with Republicans, it’s all about macho, not about brains, which us Liberals are enormously endowed with. So if you Republicans want answers, ask us; we got em:-)
McCain sounds like the Congressmen of old - Has enough spirit to know when to challenge with words and enough guts not to back down from a fist fight. :)
“The man code-named “Angler” by the Secret Service will probably continue to receive the agency’s protection long after he leaves office next year.
The Secret Service is preparing to provide Vice President Cheney with agents, transportation, advance work and other security-related trappings of executive power for six months after the Bush administration packs up and moves out in January, the agency’s director, Mark Sullivan, told Congress last week. The expected cost: $4 million.
Although presidents and their spouses are entitled to Secret Service protection long after they depart the White House, federal law authorizes protective services for the vice president and his immediate family only during his time in office. Extending Cheney’s detail would require a directive from the president or a joint resolution of Congress.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/07/AR2008040702389.html?hpid=moreheadlines
Who would want to do anything to this moron anyway? My wish is for him to witness the disaster he helped create in Iraq, and for him to be brought up on charges, sent up for life and spend his time with the people he so admires.
Evidently, J M Walker likes the “flower in their hair - tree hugger types.” Or maybe those with a slight lilt in their walk.
J M, That final sentence is a succinct and incredibly accurate statement! ;-)
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Evidently, J M Walker likes the “flower in their hair - tree hugger types.” Or maybe those with a slight lilt in their walk.
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Fist fights are for school children, so I guess Regular would rather have school children, than grown ups, running this country. Wait . . . ain’t that what we got now?
Sol, thanks for pointing out during Sexual Assault awareness month that the Military and Military Contractors need to be addressed before more sexual assaults happen. If our military is to be the finest, we should lead by example. If not, we’re no better than Saudi who kill women for being raped.
I’m very tired of those who turn a blind eye to this devistating life altering event of so many. Sadly, recent studies show that around 33% of people believe that women were partially to blame for their own assaults! Studies in England and Ireland are comparable. I don’t have numbers for the US, but I’d like to see a study done.
It’s a big deal when you consider that such a tiny percent of sexual assaults get reported, and an even smaller number get CONVICTED.
This is the statement I admired:
It seems with Republicans, it’s all about macho, not about brains, which us Liberals are enormously endowed with. So if you Republicans want answers, ask us; we got em.
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Evidently, J M Walker likes the “flower in their hair - tree hugger types.” Or maybe those with a slight lilt in their walk.
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Fist fights are for school children, so I guess Regular would rather have school children, than grown ups, running this country. Wait . . . ain’t that what we got now?
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Naw, just people with cajones that don’t bow down to far left pipe dreamers about reaching Nirvana.
Gracias, L55
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1686822,00.html
HOA’s have gotten so powertrip hungry that they’re hurting eco-friendly people who are trying to be energy efficient.
It’s absurd that congress has to take time to fight for the rights of people to own a home.
“Naw, just people with cajones that don’t bow down to far left pipe dreamers about reaching Nirvana.”
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Nirvana being a well run country, by honest politicians, doing their job by the people, for the people, and by the people? That Nirvana? The same one the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are supposed to guarantee?
Or the one characterized by body blows, fingernail scratching and “my senator can kick your senators a**”, bought and paid for politicians, and endorsed by Regular.
I prefer the former:-)
Linda,
Whatever happened to that attitude of yours about being above the petty name calling and insults? Isn’t that what originally drove you and others away to Tracy’s blog?
Remember the place where you claim everyone is so much nicer to one another?
Perhaps if you practiced what you preached over here you could bring about or at least contribute to that better atmosphere.
Or the one characterized by body blows
That was during the Clinton years wasn’t it? :)
“That was during the Clinton years wasn’t it? :)”
Ya, but they kept it in the closet:-)
Nirvana being a well run country, by honest politicians, doing their job by the people, for the people, and by the people? That Nirvana? The same one the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are supposed to guarantee?
Sounds like the platform of a current candidate I know…
Hmmmm….
Whom could it be?
;-)
“HOA’s have gotten so powertrip hungry that they’re hurting eco-friendly people who are trying to be energy efficient.
It’s absurd that congress has to take time to fight for the rights of people to own a home.”
Your first statement is correct. Your last is not. You can own a home if you wish. HOAs do not keep you from doing so. If you foolishly choose to live in an area controlled by an HOA, live by the rules or change them.
For the record, I despise HOAS as an infringement on other peoples property rights.
I think it is absurd that congress has to even address the issue. That’s what I meant.
“Distance Learning Teachers Having Sex With Students Very Hot School Girls on Tiahrt still a warming skeptic”
No wonder he’s a skeptic. The hot skool girls are causing all the warming!
“Perhaps if you practiced what you preached over here you could bring about or at least contribute to that better atmosphere”
Like Nathan does, Linda, just follow his example.
The planned Flight 93 Memorial near Shanksville, PA, designed by Architect Paul Murdoch, titled “Crescent of Embrace”, and supposedly commemorating deadly sneak attacks on America by Arab Muslim terrorists, one of which was thwarted by heroic Flight 93 passengers, is to include Islamic elements like a huge crescent pointing to Mecca and a tower designed like an Islamic sundial or minaret. The 44 memorial glass blocks will include one for each of the 4 Muslim terrorists that slit the throats of passengers, threatened to destroy the White House or Capitol building, and caused the deaths of all aboard when the flight ended in a 115-foot crater. This entire project is being called a memorial for Muslim terrorists. Completion is scheduled for 2011, on about the 10th anniversary of the treacherous Muslim attacks.
As usual, the leftist National Park Service has its fingers in the trashing of America.
ALF for president. :D
Alf on Fox News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diMYcbM__8w&feature=related
Alf Rocking and Rolling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjo_GoJ03ps
Holy Shee-yite - from where are you deriving your facts, Parkay?
Now, don’t go all “Purple Rain” on us. Don’t emulate the musical prodigy who, in his film debut in 1984, boasted of performing one song and splitting.
This crap sounds too grotesque for belief.
wsc, he is scroll over territory. Children are wonderful beings; adults who behave like children are not. I’m sure he will continue to tell others how they should behave. ;-)
Presidential Science Debate!
I would hope everyone would be in favor of this, but neither candidate is agreeing right now.
Let them know you wants these issues discussed, please.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/08/no-democratic-science-debate-yet/
Gee thanks, Parkay. It seems you have indeed gone all “Purple Rain” on us.
Goodness - I can always count on you to brighten my worldview significantly. In fact, the title of a 1960s television program helmed by a famous Roman Catholic priest comes to mind right about now.
Who was this wise man of God, you ask? Well, there’s an actor named Charlie with the same last name. Thanks a bunchie!!!!
Okey-dokey:
Does anyone know if the acutely depressing attestations by Parkay are true?
I mean, I donated to that cause. I was so moved by the movie “Flight 93″ that I gave when I couldn’t really afford to do so.
But if my hard-earned bread is goin’ toward terrorists, I’ll be chagrined. I got a 33-megaton bomb for Osama’s a$$ right about now - not by the sweat ($$$) of my brow.
I heard a story, months after 9/11, that Mr. Bin Laden wants to destroy America - but not before capturing all American women and interring us in a concentration camp where………….
My god - I’d rather be choked by my own entrails………
Notably the average car emits .916 lbs. of CO2/ — eediot
Impossible unless combustion only uses a tiny portion of the molecule. A gallon of gas weighs about 7 pounds I believe. Since the molecule’s weight is mostly carbon and some hydrogen, I doubt this a hell of a lot. I.E. the carbon would shed the hydrogen in the HYDROCARBON molecule and add two Oxygen molecules. The result would be more like 21 pounds of co2 per gallon of gas.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/co2.shtml
McCain lunged at Renzi, punches were thrown, and the two had to be physically separated. After they went to their separate offices, McCain called Renzi and demanded an apology.
B.S. McCain can’t lift his arms above his shoulders making it highly unlikely that he threw any punches. Raw Story is not a reputable source, though it is entertaining.
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McCain lunged at Renzi, punches were thrown, and the two had to be physically separated. After they went to their separate offices, McCain called Renzi and demanded an apology.
B.S. McCain can’t lift his arms above his shoulders making it highly unlikely that he threw any punches. Raw Story is not a reputable source, though it is entertaining.
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I hate to tell you this, multiple nic, but the quote came from a book. I can’t lift my arm above my shoulder either, but that wouldn’t stop me from smackin’ someone, if I was bent that way.
Sheese, if you’re going to claim multiple names, you’d think you could actually know something.
Songbird,
See Flight 93 memorial
news page
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60990
and memorial page
http://pittsburgh.about.com/od/flight_93/ss/memorial_photos.htm
You can’t believe everything (most things?) on the internet, Parkay…there is a lot of crap floating around out there.
” I hate to tell you this, multiple nic, but the quote came from a book.” — walker
He threw undercuts no doubt.
They are called UPPER cuts, Ed Fred.
Well this is, of course, anecdotal.
My Mom knew a lady who ate in the same restaurant with McCain one time.
Apparently John McCain was extremely rude and mean to the restaurant help. My Mom’s friend said it changed her whole perspective on McCain.
She thinks he’s nuts.
Parkay - even if there were some Islamic elements (not at all clear) just where is the “memorial glass blocks will include one for each of the 4 Muslim terrorists that slit the throats of passengers, threatened to destroy the White House or Capitol building, and caused the deaths of all aboard when the flight ended in a 115-foot crater.” I call BS on you.
A number of traditions, including Judaism, have lunar influences. And, even if there were some Islamic symbolism I would point out to you that many Muslims were also killed by those terrorists.
Just as your hero Phelps is not representative of all Christians neither is OBL representative of all Muslims. I don’t care how much you and your kind parrot that bigotry.
“They are called UPPER cuts, Ed Fred.” — WS Clark.
God, you’re lame.
“Sheese, if you’re going to claim multiple names, you’d think you could actually know something.” — JM walker
Shees, if you actually knew something you’d read the book instead of lifting a quotation from the book from Raw Story.
“Songbird
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Okey-dokey:
Does anyone know if the acutely depressing attestations by Parkay are true?”
No evidence of any truth there songbird.
Anyway, here’s a thought I had. Could the excess heat of an engine combined with a catalyst be used to split the water molecule into hydrogen and oxygen to boost mileage?
“J R” –
Not to cast dispersion on so good a source as your Mom’s friend who at at the same restaurant as McCain or anything…
But even if it were true, being “mean and rude to the restaurant help” doesn’t necessarily mean “he’s nuts” or even that his treatment of servers and bus boys makes McCain somehow ill-qualifed to be President of the United States.
He’s nuts for a lot better reasons.
I did say it was anecdotal. Offered here only as such.
“God, you’re lame.”
Damn, you were the idiot that called them UNDER cuts.
If you are going to use a sports term, learn what it means first. Don’t take a shot on goal unless you can knock it out of the park.
(Between the uprights, of course.)
Concerning the flight 93 memorial.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_93_National_Memorial
WS Clark: You dumb sumbitch, do I have to explain every joke to every frickfaced idiot who comes along.
“You dumb sumbitch”
Well, at least you got that part right - my (birth) mother is a bitch.
You’re not frickfaced then?
“Could the excess heat of an engine combined with a catalyst be used to split the water molecule into hydrogen and oxygen to boost mileage?”
NO. However, water injection might be used to increase the power stroke because of the tremendous volume increase upon vaporization. I seem to recall water injection being used in some aircraft engines some time ago.
Probably very hard on the engine though.
Any scuba divers out there?
We have a boat rented in the Bay Islands for late July that has four spaces available to anyone who loves to eat, sleep, and dive.
The Bay Islands are in Honduras and it’s the time of year that the whale sharks migrate through..the last time I went I got to snorkel with one.
Mary - maybe I could learn. I used to be a pretty strong swimmer - back when I had hair.
“You’re not frickfaced then?”
Don’t think so - I am not sure what frickfaced is.
My friends tell me, however, that I am incredibly handsome - is that what you meant?
Hmm; given your self-proclaimed good looks, I’d guess you were conservative. But your posts lead me to think otherwise. My only remaining conclusion is that you probably really are good looking.
And WHO can’t get a joke?
Ben,
Have you read about the 6-stroke engine? Uses steam power, instead of dumping waste heat into cooling system.
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060227/FREE/302270007/1023/THISWEEKSISSUE
“Have you read about the 6-stroke engine?”
Sticking my nose in, Cosmos - interesting concept. As a self-proclaimed gearhead, lover of motors of all kinds, this is really interesting.
The bad thing about internal combustion engines is their relative inefficiency, as noted in the article. Even modest gains in efficiency would yield significant gains in reductions of oil usage and reductions in greenhouse gases.
We can only hope that this sort of technology hits the market instead of being buried by big oil money.
Thanks for posting the link.
Very well. I’ve had a good night’s sleep (well, not that all good, considering my aching back and all) - and I’ve time to go to those URLs and reflect….and….
Sometimes in life one must concentrate on the favorable aspects of a situation. In this case, I am choosing to dedicate my emotions to the Flight 93 passengers - not the terrorists - who bravely became the stuff of legend nearly 7 years ago.
I shall never forget the first time I saw “United 93″ - on April 28, 2006 at the Warren 13th Avenue Theatre. By the closing scenes, when the courage and valor of those anguished passengers reached its apex - I was on my feet. Half weeping, half cheering, tears streaming down my face without my even realizing it, pumping my fists with both anger and jubilation, I knew I had witnessed something that occurs once in a lifetime.
That is what inspired my donation. And it wasn’t a large donation; I had even less of a pot to p— in than I have now. But those saga of those stalwart souls will live forever.