One of the male anchors on Fox News (Ch 27 in Mlvne) is wearing a big Jayhawk sticker on his Brooks Brothers —– check it out (now 735) …… maybe not fair and balanced —- but certianly apropos …..
1. I contacted the “March of Dimes” at KS632@marchodimes.com about a Card Tournament to be held monthly as a benefit for Bikers for Babies. I will keep you posted as to the communications as they evolve.
2. I seem to catch flack over letting people know about how my life and theirs is affected by dirty Politics and people. This stills seems odd to me. I seem to catch my grief and flack from those I try to help than by those who started it to begin with. I wont ever gain anything huge by telling my side of these problems. People seem to act as if there are $Millions at stake. All that is at stake is that, the corrupt will be exposed and removed. Only their cohorts will loose in this. Some responders hear at kansas.com take it “Financialy Personal” when corruption is exposed. I have been called an idiot, a fool etc:.. They refuse to ellaborate. They just “Buddy up Bash”. They dont give any solid rebuttles. They just sarcastically protect corruption and “Personal Agenda”. Just a view, opinion etc:.. And last and not least, “Why are Politicians not required to back up Campaign Claims and promises when they get to an Elected Office, under disclosure”? Honesty in Politics would be nice for once. Herbert West III west.herb@yahoo.com I realisze I will be asked about meds and lock up times do to I posted here again. I still dont see why, I just know the comments are about top fly. Consider all sides please. HLWIII, west.herb@yahoo.com
Pakistan and Russia held their elections on time but USD259 wants to delay the bond election to “educate” the public?
The bond election HAD to be held in May to save money and get the building started. Now a delay doesn’t matter. Was the administration lying then, or are they lying now?
Sen. Clinton has made much of a September 1995 speech she delivered in Beijing, in an effort to show she is willing to get tough on China. She said in her book “Living History” that she was briefed by the State Department and the Secret Service in advance of that speech, and was even fed “intelligence information” during those discussions. The schedules don’t reflect such briefings, however…
And, indeed, here is the claim on page 363 of her ghostwritten autobiography, Living History: Before leaving for China, I had received briefings from the State Department and Secret Service that included intelligence information as well as protocol and diplomatic issues. I had been cautioned to assume that everything I said or did would be tape-recorded, particularly in the hotel room.
Whether the newspaper’s arrival was a coincidence or an example of the Chinese government’s internal security, it led to some good laughs, and we realized that we’d all been unusually tense about being watched and recorded. From that point on, my staff regularly winked at the television screen and spoke into lamps, making loud requests for pizza, steak and milkshakes and hoping that our security handlers would deliver again. But after three days, only the newspaper had arrived at the door.
One of the ironies here is that Mrs. Clinton now claims that, unlike Mr. Obama, she doesn’t need briefings before facing foreign matters. Having been co-President for eight years.
Why did Hillary lie about a health care horror involving an uninsured pregnant woman?
Over the last five weeks, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has featured in her campaign stump speeches the story of a health care horror: an uninsured pregnant woman who lost her baby and died herself after being denied care by an Ohio hospital because she could not come up with a $100 fee.
The woman, Trina Bachtel, did die last August, two weeks after her baby boy was stillborn at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, Ohio. But hospital administrators said Friday that Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured.[…]
Wow, anyone who missed the women’s games last night missed some goodies. The LSU-Tennessee game wasnt decided until the last second. Damn Pat Summit. I love Van Chancellor, but I dont know WTF happened to LSU last night. Not good play, but it sure was a barn burner. Cant wait for the final…
Soldevvb & Mary,Leave Hillary alone and talk about that Obama. He is the one we have to watch out for. We dont need that Obama to run our country. Why don’t they check Obama & Michelle’s taxes.
Stanford looked GREAT! Of course, ya just can never count out Tennessee. I think the battle of Candice and Candace will be great. I just hope Candace has time to heal up a little bit. She was clearly in pain last night.
And I STILL dont know WTF was up with LSU last night. Intimidated? Just because Pat Summit is known to eat dynamite and poop firecrackers?
“In an interview Sunday on CNN, onetime gay conservative pundit Andrew Sullivan asserted that Bush officials who worked on a memo authorizing legal use of torture “should not leave the country” because they “will be, at some point, indicted for war crimes.”
Sullivan cited specifically former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld; onetime White House lawyer John Yoo, who penned the so-called 2003 torture memo and Dave Addington, Vice President Cheney’s then-lawyer and now chief of staff.”
Million-dollar fixer-upper for sale: five bedrooms, four baths, three-car garage, cavernous living room. Big holes above fireplace where flat-screen TV used to hang.
The U.S. housing crisis has come to McMansion country.
Just as the foreclosure crisis has hollowed out poorer neighborhoods, “for sale” signs are sprouting in upscale developments so new they don’t show up on GPS navigation screens.
Poor people weren’t the only ones who took out risky, high-interest loans during the housing boom. The sharp increase in housing costs — and the desire to live in brand-new, spacious houses with modern features — led many affluent buyers to take out loans they couldn’t afford.
“People had in their head, ‘I need a mud room, I need giant columns, I need a media room, and I’m going to do anything to get it,”‘ said Robert Lang, co-director of Virginia Tech’s Metropolitan Institute, a research organization that focuses on real estate and development.
Security officials extinguished the Olympic torch three times Monday as protests against China’s human rights record turned a relay through Paris into a chaotic series of stops and starts.
Despite massive security, at least two activists got within almost an arm’s length of the flame before they were grabbed by police. Officers tackled many protesters and carried off some of them. A protester threw water at the torch but failed to extinguish it and was also taken away.
At the start of the relay, a man identified as a Green Party activist was grabbed by security officers as he headed for 1997 400-meter world champion Stephane Diagana, the president of France’s national athletics league, who was carrying the torch from the first floor of the Eiffel Tower. The man was tackled before he got close to Diagana.
The procession continued but, soon after, a crowd of activists waving Tibetan flags interrupted it for the first time by confronting the torchbearer on a road along the Seine River. The demonstrators did not appear to get close to the torch, but its flame was put out by security officers and brought on board a bus to continue along the route.
The Senator from Illinos, Barak Hussein Obama, the not so reformed Muslim
“On February 27th, speaking to Kristof of The New York Times, Barack Hussein Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
In an interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times, Obama recited the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, “with a first-class [Arabic] accent.”
The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the Shahada:
“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet….”
According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim. This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim’s complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam. Obama chanted it with pride and finesse.”
On Feb 15/08, Usama K. Dakdok, President of The Straight Way of Grace Ministry called Obama’s Church and reported the following conversation: ” I then asked the person who answered what I needed to do to join. She told me that I needed to attend two Sunday School classes in a row and then I would walk the aisle. I replied, “That sounds easy. One last question please. If I am Muslim and I believe in the Prophet Mohammed, peace be unto him and I also believe in Jesus, peace be unto him, do I have to give up my Islamic faith to be a member in your church? She answered: “No, we have many Muslim members in our church.”
In Kenya while he was a Senator, Obama stumped for his cousin, opposition leader Raila Odinga, the son of Senior’s sister, a direct first cousin and nephew of Obama’s father.
On August 29, 2007, Raila Odinga and Shiekh Abdullah Abdi, chairman of the National Muslim Leaders Forum of Kenya signed a Memorandum of Understanding in which it pledges the support of Kenyan Moslems for Raila’s election. In return, as President of Kenya, Raila agrees … within 6 months re-write the Constitution of Kenya to recognize Shariah as the only true law sanctioned by the Holy Quran for Muslim declared regions [and] within one year to facilitate the establishment of a Shariah court in every Kenyan divisional headquarters — everywhere in Kenya, not just in “Muslim declared regions” — and to popularize Islam, the only true religion … by ordering every primary school in Kenya in the regions to conduct daily Madrassa classes.”
Amiris, now the manager of Bank Mandiri, Jakarta, recently said, “Barry was previously quite religious in Islam. His birth father, Barack Hussein Obama was a Muslim economist from Kenya. Before marrying Ann Dunham, Hussein Obama was married to a woman from Kenya who had seven children. All the relatives of Barry’s father were very devout Muslims”
Emirsyah Satar, CEO of Garuda Indonesia, was quoted as saying, “He (Obama) was often in the prayer room wearing a ’sarong’, at that time.”
“He was quite religious in Islam but only after marrying Michelle, he changed his religion.”
So Obama, according to his classmates and friends was a Muslim until the confluence of love and ambition caused him to adopt the cloak of Christianity: to marry Michelle and to run for President of the United States,”
Three years later, in 1971, Obama enrolled in the Besuki Primary School, a government school, as Barry Soetoro, Muslim. In third grade, Senator Obama wrote an essay titled ‘I Want To Be a President.’ His third grade teacher: Fermina Katarina Sinaga “asked her class to write an essay titled ‘My dream: What I want to be in the future.’ Senator Obama wrote ‘I want to be a President,’ she said.” [The Los Angeles Times, 3/15/07]
accumulated research from primary sources who knew Obama from his childhood indicate that he was a devout Muslim, the son of a devout Muslim, the step-son of a devout Muslim and the grandson and namesake (”Hussein”) of a devout Muslim. He was registered in school as a Muslim and demonstrated his ability to chant praise to Allah in impressive Arab-accented tones even as an adult. Just as he has not disavowed his “uncle” Jeremiah, neither has he disavowed his Muslim faith that he was born into, raised with, celebrated and never abandoned. He just covered it over with a thin veneer of his own self-styled “Christianity.”
The misery and headaches of air travel in this country is unconscionable. I love this quote from the article:
“The airlines are in a tough situation, Headley said. A year ago, they were almost ready to make money when they were hit by increased fuel prices, he said.
“‘Oil prices have forced them to say, ‘We can’t consider the customer as much as we’d really like because we have to stay in business,’ he said.
“Performance isn’t expected to improve anytime soon.”
How can you stay in business if you can’t consider the constomer? What do you free market zombies say to that?
NCLB, No Child Left Behind. What is that? It isn’t enough that’s for sure.
We need NALB, No Adult Left Behind! We need a safety net for those who need it. A safety net that is not set at the lowest level of poverty, but one that is set at a level that is decent for a normal human being. A level that allows a family to be raised in a home, not a shack. A level that allows a family to eat, and get health care. A level that ensures we have good schools for our kids.
We need jobs for those who can work, and a helping hand from government to make sure all the people in this great land of opportunity get just that - opportunity. Not an opportunity for poverty level help, but an opportunity to live with a sense of pride at a level that all Americans should expect to be.
For those who are trying real hard, and getting beat down by the man every day, the government should be there to help.
Obama is right. The call to prayer is a haunting beautiful sound. He no doubt heard it often when he lived in Indonesia, and that’s where he learned to recite it.
I learned it when I lived for three years in Malaysia, and I fully concur with Obama.
However, that doesn’t mean he’s a Muslim, but you already knew that, didn’t you.
“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet….”
CBS) A federal court has released former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman from prison, six weeks after 60 Minutes aired a report about a prosecution so suspect that 52 former state attorneys-general have asked Congress to investigate.
In 2006, Siegelman was convicted of bribery, but the prosecution was so troubling that Congress started the investigation. Siegelman says his prosecution was political, orchestrated in the White House.
Siegelman was in prison in February when he watched the original 60 Minutes broadcast with other inmates.
In an interview with 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley, he describes the jailhouse reaction to the broadcast: “Well immediately people were standing up, sayin’, ‘You got screwed.’ And I’d say, ‘Well, you know, I think there were a lot of ya’ll that got screwed.’ And then, one guy stood up and said, ‘No, I was guilty. You got screwed.’ ”
Using different words, a federal appeals court raised the same possibility, agreeing that his “appeal raises substantial questions of law or fact likely to result in reversal” of his conviction.
Siegelman was once the most successful Democrat in Alabama. He claims his prosecution by the U.S. Department of Justice was influenced by the president’s former political advisor, Karl Rove.
“What we need,” Siegleman says, “is Karl Rove to get himself over to the Judiciary Committee and put his hand on a Bible and take an oath and give testimony. And he can either tell the truth or take the Fifth. Either one will satisfy me.”
Karl Rove declined to speak before the House Committee investigating this.
Indeed. I don’t recall GMC70 ever commenting on the obvious railroading of Governor Siegelman. I do recall him repeatedly denying there was anything untoward in the Bush’s Justice Department’s use of political prosecutions.
Given his unwavering apologetics and “nothing to see here” in the face of clearly malicious and poltical prosecutions, I would like to know whether GMC70 is a member of the Federalist Society
If you’re going to quote the Muslim call to prayer, please be kind to translate the whole thing:
“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! I witness that there is no god but Allah I witness that there is no god but Allah I witness that Muhammad is his prophet….”
Obama Cover Up shovel is working fast and furious - First Reverend Wright - Now ties to a Real Estate Scandal”
CHICAGO, Illinois (CNN) — “Indicted real estate developer and political fundraiser Tony Rezko, whose links to Sen. Barack Obama have brought his name into the national spotlight, was arrested Monday morning, an FBI spokesman said.
Rezko was taken into custody by the FBI at his Wilmette, Illinois, home just outside Chicago following a government motion to revoke his bond, said FBI spokesman Tom Simon.
Rezko — whom Sen. Hillary Clinton referred to in a debate as having run a “slum landlord business” — has pleaded not guilty to federal charges of conspiracy, influence peddling and demanding kickbacks from companies seeking Illinois state business.
Obama, speaking Sunday to ABC’s “This Week,” described Rezko as “a friend of mine, a supporter, who I’ve known for 20 years.”
Rezko has contributed to the campaigns of numerous Democrats, including Obama — though the Illinois senator has vowed to give up all funds connected to Rezko. Obama said in a debate that as an attorney he did just about five hours of work for a Rezko project.
Shortly after his election to the U.S. Senate, Obama bought a house for $300,000 below the asking price. The same day, Rezko’s wife bought the lot next door for full price. Months later, Obama bought a sliver of the Rezko land to expand his yard.
As a state senator, Obama wrote letters supporting some Rezko deals.”
If you don’t understand the obvious difference in what Muslims believe to be god and what Christians to believe to be God then you have some serious things to work on Mr Sunday School teacher.
My cousin who lives abroad recently traveled to Turkey where they broadcast the call mulitiple times per day. He said it was beautiful too.
And he certainly isn’t muslim.
Why are you STILL trying to perpetuate this myth? Are you really that hard up dude?
You don’t believe in God, you don’t practice Christianity, and at every turn you can’t even quote the Bible correctly and fall for the same old atheist misconceptions and attacks on the Bible.
Now you are attempting to tell me that Muslims and Christians worship the same God?
Nathan — Go make a little visit to Wichita Interfaith, and get some facts… Then come back and tell us what all you learned!! It will do us ALL some good!!
Nathan — Go make a little visit to Wichita Interfaith, and get some facts… Then come back and tell us what all you learned!! It will do us ALL some good!!
Ha Walker! About the mcmansion crisis, I also saw someone suggesting today that we rip up all these abandoned suburbs and put them back into CROP LAND!
heheheheheheheheheheh.
Seems the price of food is worrying everyone.
I guess it’s true. What goes around, comes around.
Nathan is a LIAR — bears false witness against others, when he knows nothing!! Bases false allegations on those who disagree with HIS religious beliefs… LIAR LIAR!!
Hey, KsFarmGrrl: I’m here - but it’s the last 10 days of tax season - and this chick is busy workin’. But I’m at lunchie right now…..
Anyway, I gotta confess. Ain’t got no interest in Islam. Ain’t got no stomach for the Muslim faith. I know others do - and that is their right (unless they emulate Muhammad and practice pedophilia. Unless they emulate Osama and fly biggie planes into biggier buildings….).
This sort of debate makes me head spin - and menopause is makin’ me dizzy enough right now. Nathan answered my question about those really horrifying biblical passages. He doesn’t seem to be one of those Victorian vultures who believe in keepin’ wimmin praygnunt ‘n barefootin’ until they croak. Thus, I wish him well with his faith, even if I lost much of mine nearly 19 years ago.
But if someone gets on here and lays this heapin’ helpin’ of s–t on me: I was the guiltier party 33 years ago and my impregnator/serial sex offender/habitual rapist was an innocent choirboy who somehow just hopped, skipped and gutterhumped his way into my stratosphere without REALLY MEANING TO - well, I’ll probably explode……
I’ve tried in as many words as I know to tell you it isn’t any of my business and in fact is between the individual and their God. I don’t expect I will need to answer for anyone but me. And that is the extent of my business on this subject - ME. I think it is sinful and immoral for me to think I have the right to judge another’s soul. I think God has that under control.
Just a simple ??. Why is it so important that several people on this blog have to jump on Nathan about his faith? He has challenged Chas on the basis of his faith because Chas keeps demeaning Nathan’s faith. Why do the rest (P-mom, Linda, etc..) think that you need to defend Chas?
I say let Chas defend his own position and the blog won’t go into meltdown because of the flame throwers.
ksgrm, not that I think you will understand, but I answered a question directed at me. If anyone is jumping in where they shouldn’t be it seems it might be you this time.
Linda if Nathan believes that there is one true God (as I do also) why does he have to accept anyone elses belief and let go of his own.
Tolerance is a double edged sword. It has to be on both sides or it is indeed judgemental. When Chas stops injecting his credentials and faith then Nathan should back up and say Ok we agree to disagree. But it has to be between them and not the entire blog.
FRANKFURT AN DER ODER, Germany (AP) - A German woman convicted of killing eight of her babies must serve the maximum 15 years in prison, a court ruled Monday.
Sabine Hilschenz, 42, was convicted in 2006 of killing eight of her newborn babies and burying them in flower pots and a fish tank in the garden
of her parents’ home near the German-Polish border.
Frank: Didn’t I see you in “Rocky Horror Picture Show?”
Oh, wait - I didn’t SEE that movie. Tim Curry kind of scared me back then - I was only seventeen. Seein’ a dude wearing fishnets was too much for my nubile senses.
I used to think every gay-ee guy wore a dress.
Anyway - are you serious? A woman gave birth to eight children? Is that even medically possible? I guess I haven’t kept up my knowledge - seein’ as how I’ve never crossed the reproductive rubicon meself…..
“Why is it so important that several people on this blog have to jump on ‘Nathan’ about his faith?”
Probably because “Nathan” is particulaly eager to jump on others’ spiritual journey.
If there’s anything at all to fundamentalists’ talking about their “personal relationship with Jesus,” it supposed to be, y’know, personal, isn’t it?
I really don’t care what “Nathan” thinks he’s saved from or save for or how he got that way… until “Nathan” starts strutting around as if he, “Nathan,” has somehow come upon THE “Truth” and all others are somehow less than he.
MH if Chas says something that is patently false Nathan has the right to challenge him on it. By the way Chas posts erronious ‘facts’ on here daily and probably needs to be challenged more often on many subjects. That is part of blogging. It’s the mob mentality on here that gets to me.
ksgrm, it reminds me when I played basketball. Some dude would go in for what they thought was an easy lay up, I would then leap over him and snatch the basketball before it reached the backboard and they would whine about goal tending (which it wasn’t - on the way up.)
They just couldn’t believe that someone could do that.
Naw Max, usually played half court during lunch - so just had to take it “back out.” My “dribble skills were never that good to run full court against another team.
I had pretty good leaping ability for a white guy.
From a flat footed jump I could touch 10 foot 9 inches (9 inches above the rim.)
It wasn’t that big of a mistake. Yet Chas won’t even admit being wrong about the little things, which turns it into a lie when you keep repeating the same BS.
Christians in Palestine pray to Allah - the God of Abraham. Christians in Spain pray to Dios - that same God. Those are words that mean God in Arabic and Spanish.
In the Quran Jesus is named as a Prophet. So, it would seem to me that the biggest difference between Christianity and the other two Abrahaimic religions is the Christian belief that Jesus was THE Son of God; not the identity of God Himself.
Nathan, In no way did you say you base your FAITH on the Bible in the post I commented on.
You said, “I read the Bible for “facts” on my religion.”
And why do I interject myself? That’s an excellent question. One I thank you very much for asking!
I would think whatever name is used there isn’t anyone who spends time in worship, witness, prayer, study of the entity they don’t consider and believe to be the one true God.
But then, humanity surprises me sometimes so there could be someone who knows for a fact they are spending their time worshiping a false God but do it anyway.
Nathan, based on what you just said to Ben, then Jewish folk dont pray to the “One True God” either, right??
BTW, Nathan, you LIE because you keep insisting I do not believe in the One True God…
FIND ONE PLACE WHERE I HAVE SAID THAT… AND IF YOU CANT FIND IT, THEN JUST SHUT UP ABOUT IT!!
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MAX — What I SAID the other day is that the 2007 returns arent even DUE to be filed until April 15 — Why would her 2007 returns be released, when the filing date isnt for another week yet??? Huh???
She HAS RELEASED all of her others!! THAT is not a lie!!
Nathan - all three of the Abrahaimic religions claim to pray to the God of Abraham. Since Jews also do not accept Jesus as devine does that mean that Jews also do not pray to the same God?
You must now register and be more civil Chas. You are really not being nice, and civil, and honest about your lying, but that’s ok, you can’t help yourself. So get help.
I have a hard time consigning my Jewish friends to Hell simply because they do not accept Christ. I guess others, like the followers of Hagee, have no problems with that.
Furthermore, Max, you flaming is totally irrelevant either way!! Extensions of IRS filings are a routine matter…. So, WTF is your big deal?? Ahh yes, you just want to be noticed, and want everybody to think you are posting something earth shaking!!
Nathan, I make my belief in God based on what is right for everyone, not just myself.
That’s the difference, I don’t need a book to tell me that either.
KSGrm you made the worst statement ever, saying that nathan must accept others beliefs and give up his own. Nobody has ever said a word about him giving up his religion. He does need to accept other people’s beliefs…that doesn’t mean he has to believe them personally.
Christ it must be hard to live inside your heads…the world, so difficult and confusing… all these wrong opinions..
I see Nathan cannot prove I said there is not one true God… Which is true…
Nathan, asd PMama so rightly says it, you really must learn to accept that others have differing beliefs, but nobody is asking you to give up yours… Yours is not the only belief…
When you can prove I said there is not one true God… Then perhaps, we can discuss it… But you really must stop lying about what I believe first!!
My take is that God has revealed Himself to man in different ways. To the Israelites it was a burning bush and a piller of fire. Might He have revealed himself to my Native American ancestors in a different manner? And, if He did and they therefore refer to him as the “Great Father who makes the Forest Green” might He still be the same Being?
Do you believe in heaven and hell? If so, is there anything which would send someone to hell or does everyone go to heaven?
“I” am not consiging anyone to hell. I am following what the Bible clearly says.
Either you accept that or not, I don’t mind. You just can’t claim to be a Christian or that Christians believe in the same God as do Muslims and Jews when we don’t.
Christians believe in Christ, Muslims and Jews don’t. Thus we don’t believe in the same God.
Allah, Yahwey, God same meaning, different languages. Muslims along with Christians and Jews revere the prophets of the Old Testament and worship the same God. Muslims revere Christ as a prophet along with Mohammed but do not worship them. Those who suggest there is more than one God (ie.,you don’t worship my God) are bordering on heresy for indicating there is more than one God. All of which firms up my reasons to be an agnostic.
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. John 14:26
If there is a heaven and a hell, I feel God is fair enough that if you believe but act like you don’t, you’ll go to hell; if you don’t believe and you act like you do, you’ll end up in heaven anyway. You just KNOW God has a special place in hell for the religiously hypocritical.
‘Gallup Daily: Obama Moves to 9-point Lead Over Clinton
McCain, Obama remain tied in general election trial heat’ http://www.gallup.com/poll/106282/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Moves-9point-Lead-Over-Clinton.aspx
” Barack Obama has gained support in the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking report for April 4-6, and now leads Hillary Clinton by a statistically significant margin, 52% to 43%.”
Nathan - I don’t pretend to know the full nature of God. I also do not believe that any mortal man does. This includes those imperfect mortal men who have written their descriptions of what they think God is.
God did not write the various Books that make up the arbitrary collection you call the Bible.
According to scripture Hell is a physical place on Earth. However, nobody can actually find where this is. It has to be physical otherwise fire would be an impossibility (not to mention it’s affect on the nervous system). Given the description of a “lake of fire” it would appear to be a volcano.
Anyone care to tell me where this hell is other than in the imagination of Christians?
In one sentence you claim you don’t pretend to know the nature of God, but in another you know enough to be able to say that Christians, Muslims, and Jews all worship the same one.
In one sentence you seem to know how God revealed himself to us and in the other you you don’t pretend to know the nature of God.
So which is it Ben? If you don’t know the nature of God and can’t answer questions, what then is it that drives you to get involved in a conversation with me on it while making statements on what you consider the nature of God to be?
I have never said God did write the Bible. I believe that those writers were divinely inspired by God to do so though.
Yeah, it’s a personal belief from the book of fishes. I just assume God is righteous and fair, and isn’t as easily deluded as so many people who pompously promote their version of Him.
You tell me, AmWay, is God intelligent, or a dolt?
Where is hell? I’ll tell you where Hades is, young man.
Hell is something akin to what a wise priest once said (during my confirmation classes in 1976, actually): “Hell is a place of eternal boredom.”
Actually, I’d add to that s–t the following: Hell is having a major depressive illness and being prescribed too low (or too high) of a dosage of one’s life-saving medication.
Perhaps that’s why the fundamentalists’ dire warnings about hell-fie-yah don’t scare me into abject submission. I’ve endured something akin to what Kurt Cobain complained of before he offed himself in 1994: When you’re on this particular med - and ya ain’t got no feelin’s - positive or negative - and you’re just sorta mordant all over - it’s sort of a thanatic existence.
That is what hell is. And I hope you don’t ever go there.
I converted to Catholicism in 1976 (at age 18). When everyone else in my freshman (college) class was doing the “Dirty Lowdown” (with or without Boz Skaggs playing in the background) - I was committing myself to one of the strictest religious factions on the face of the earth.
Actually, I have fond memories of Father Moriarty, the priest who confirmed my brother and me. (We both left the church 13 years later, by the way.) He was a sprightly Irish leprechaun who cracked jokes, made it clear he’d had a drink or two during his long life, and disdained the hysteria of so many televangelists. (”I don’t act like that when I’m sober,” he deadpanned one evening.)
Father died in 1989, months before both my sibling and I broke away from the Roman Church. But his remark about hell has stayed with me through the years. At 18, I didn’t know what he meant.
As I understand the history of Jeruselum the descriptions of Hell may have come from the malodorous fires in the garbage dump outside the city’s walls.
You know that does bring up another point. How come we know what Egyptians looked like, we know what the Romans looked like, long before Jesus’s time, but this powerful man there was not ONE image of him drawn, sketched, anywhere?
I agree, Nathan would probably shoot the guy who looked like Jesus.
As far as hell, I was always taught in my whacko fundy religion that Hell was translated incorrectly in the bible and that it just meant the grave.
Songbird, I was just placing you about 2 years or so behind me in school. As I was confirmed in 64, I thought it was a typo. BTW, did your brother graduate in 72? Just curious, don’t answer if you’d rather not.
Political_mama,
We know what Jesus looked like. He was a blue eyed, blond haired Aryan with pale white skin. You know, like your typical Arabic Jew looks like today.
PoliMom, it’s so hard to tell just what people looked like 2000 years ago. There’s been so much cross-breeding. Somewhere in jr high or high school (way back when) I was told there were 4 races of egyptian, everything from lily white to ebony black. Original Iberians were white and blond haired, and blue-eyed, too (some still are) before the moorish occupation.
Someone should have told me never to store old LP’s flat. Still have my classics, all warped and scratched. On my highly sensitive record player, they sound awful.
Why am I keeping them? Something won’t let me discard them. (and someone mentioned 45’s, those went out long ago).
No. Me too. I mean, I THREW mine out long ago….
Old, broken up, warped, wet, scratched (mostly by me as a kid skipping the needle back to the good parts).
I always hated the 45’s. Face it, a full stack was only 20–25 minutes max. then again, I hated spending the 5 bucks for one good song out of 12 on Lps. I still ended up with boxes of 45s. milk crates of lps. and drawers of 8 tracks! Dang, I’m old.
I was pleasantly surprised when all of my old 8 tracks sold at a garage sale. Some guy had restored an old car and wanted them. So you might check out their worth on line.
I dumped all my old music a few years ago. I ahven’t even had a turntable hooked up since the 80s. The last time I listened to a cassett was in the early 90s. I still have the cass player hooked up, though LOL. The stuff just got in the way.
Damn, you are old. Do you remember having to memorize what was on the other tracks from a given point? If you were playing “Gotta Move” on one track, two clicks on the changer would get you over to “Wild Horses.”
Gotta love that technology.
Ha! The music was great back then, but the technology sucked!
So Max — Put up or shut up!! Better yet, WHY do you care, Max?? WHY is it important to you, Max?? I know damned well what I said, and didnt say… You want to prove something different, be my guest!! But get off my case about Hillary’s Damned Tax returns!! I dont really care about them… YOU were the one crapping your drawers because she hadnt released them until Satuday!! YOU go have your own coniption fit, I sure dont need one over HIllary!! She released everything up to 2007 — For 2007, she released a projection … Since it aint due to next week…. WHERE DID I LIE BY SAYING SHE RELEASED HER RETURNS SATURDAY???
HMMMM???? SEEMS TO ME LIKE YOU JUST GOT A BEE IN YOUR BOXERS, MAX!! BETTER GET OUT SOME BEE SPRAY!!
ghotiphaze, I still have an ancient cassette with the original bootlegged version of “Let It Be” before Spector got a hold of it and added strings and choirs.
It was called “Get Back” and it sounded far better than the over produced version that Phil cranked out.
True, WSC, the technology may have “sucked”, but the 8 track was a lot better than trying to set up a record player (on purpose use of the term) on the tranny hump, etc., to hear something other than being played on the AM “Top 40″ station. A buddy of mine tried to set up a “record player” (he’d seen pictures of some custom car type with one) and never had too much success. Not to mention the skipping on the record as a bump was encountered….
And who can forget the extraction of the seeming miles of tape when an 8 track cassette went south? Ah, the not-so-good old days…
So it is not your opinion that Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship the same God?”
You are wrong. I believe that they are worshipping the God of Abraham. Just that they, like you, have different understandings of His nature. ALL are imperfect and incomplete. NONE is complete or perfect. ALL claim to rely upon “inspired” writings and many share common writings. But NONE have original manuscripts.
On the other topic - I have a long version of ‘Get Ready” - an enire album side. In good shape.
AmericanWay, one had arrived when one had a “reel to reel” hooked up to the amp at home. I had a buddy in high school whose dad had such a set up; the admonition of “look, don’t touch” rang loud and clear in that household.
trying to set up a record player (on purpose use of the term) on the tranny hump,
had a friend do something similar. In the trunk, loaded with cinderblocks and suspended on springs. Worked only on real smooth streets and going real slow. Corners still killed it.
Ben
Posted April 7, 2008 at 1:31 pm | Permalink
Nathan - I did not say that. I stated that all three of the Abrahaimic religions claim to follow the God of Abraham.
You are speaking around the question. In one sentence you are saying I am wrong, but then you go on to basically say that you do believe we all worship the same God.
So, to put the matter at rest, a simple yes or no question:
Do you believe that Christians, Muslims, and Jews all worship the same God?
Dynamic Range Expander (pioneer model) supposedly expands the high and low end sounds which are lost on the cassette tape medium. When overseas, I was one of the servicemen who just had to buy a complete stereo “system” in Japan when the dollar to yen was a great deal.
I’m tone deaf. But the DRE has a neat light display which flashes horizontally with a blue light and expands when you crank it up.
Had to have it. And now, alas, my wife has relegated the entire syste
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Fair and Balanced — not this guy
One of the male anchors on Fox News (Ch 27 in Mlvne) is wearing a big Jayhawk sticker on his Brooks Brothers —– check it out (now 735) …… maybe not fair and balanced —- but certianly apropos …..
Go Jayhawks
1. I contacted the “March of Dimes” at KS632@marchodimes.com about a Card Tournament to be held monthly as a benefit for Bikers for Babies. I will keep you posted as to the communications as they evolve.
2. I seem to catch flack over letting people know about how my life and theirs is affected by dirty Politics and people. This stills seems odd to me. I seem to catch my grief and flack from those I try to help than by those who started it to begin with. I wont ever gain anything huge by telling my side of these problems. People seem to act as if there are $Millions at stake. All that is at stake is that, the corrupt will be exposed and removed. Only their cohorts will loose in this. Some responders hear at kansas.com take it “Financialy Personal” when corruption is exposed. I have been called an idiot, a fool etc:.. They refuse to ellaborate. They just “Buddy up Bash”. They dont give any solid rebuttles. They just sarcastically protect corruption and “Personal Agenda”. Just a view, opinion etc:.. And last and not least, “Why are Politicians not required to back up Campaign Claims and promises when they get to an Elected Office, under disclosure”? Honesty in Politics would be nice for once. Herbert West III west.herb@yahoo.com I realisze I will be asked about meds and lock up times do to I posted here again. I still dont see why, I just know the comments are about top fly. Consider all sides please. HLWIII, west.herb@yahoo.com
Pakistan and Russia held their elections on time but USD259 wants to delay the bond election to “educate” the public?
The bond election HAD to be held in May to save money and get the building started. Now a delay doesn’t matter. Was the administration lying then, or are they lying now?
http://www.wichita259truth.blogspot.com/
Sen. Clinton has made much of a September 1995 speech she delivered in Beijing, in an effort to show she is willing to get tough on China. She said in her book “Living History” that she was briefed by the State Department and the Secret Service in advance of that speech, and was even fed “intelligence information” during those discussions. The schedules don’t reflect such briefings, however…
And, indeed, here is the claim on page 363 of her ghostwritten autobiography, Living History:
Before leaving for China, I had received briefings from the State Department and Secret Service that included intelligence information as well as protocol and diplomatic issues. I had been cautioned to assume that everything I said or did would be tape-recorded, particularly in the hotel room.
Whether the newspaper’s arrival was a coincidence or an example of the Chinese government’s internal security, it led to some good laughs, and we realized that we’d all been unusually tense about being watched and recorded. From that point on, my staff regularly winked at the television screen and spoke into lamps, making loud requests for pizza, steak and milkshakes and hoping that our security handlers would deliver again. But after three days, only the newspaper had arrived at the door.
One of the ironies here is that Mrs. Clinton now claims that, unlike Mr. Obama, she doesn’t need briefings before facing foreign matters. Having been co-President for eight years.
sweetness-light.com/archive/shocker-hillary-lied-about-her-china-briefings
Why did Hillary lie about a health care horror involving an uninsured pregnant woman?
Over the last five weeks, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has featured in her campaign stump speeches the story of a health care horror: an uninsured pregnant woman who lost her baby and died herself after being denied care by an Ohio hospital because she could not come up with a $100 fee.
The woman, Trina Bachtel, did die last August, two weeks after her baby boy was stillborn at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, Ohio. But hospital administrators said Friday that Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured.[…]
answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080406134921AAYysDE
Can you believe anything this woman says?
Yeah, she even lied about not being a “stand by your man” kinda woman.
Who is Obama standing by?
GO TIGERS!
May-um-phus is gonna stomp a mudhole in you Jaywalkers, ah tell yew whuuuuuuuuuut.
Let’s see - does anyone remember the following golden-oldie nuggets?
“Read my lips! No tax increase!” - President Bush, - 1989
“I am innocent! No Watergate on my conscience! I shall NEVER resign!” - President Nixon - 1973
Let’s see - those were both Republicans, weren’t they? Or is the Songbird just imagining it?????
Republicans are far from above lying, but it seems Hillary lies when the truth would serve her better. She lies about really dumb stuff.
Wow, anyone who missed the women’s games last night missed some goodies. The LSU-Tennessee game wasnt decided until the last second. Damn Pat Summit. I love Van Chancellor, but I dont know WTF happened to LSU last night. Not good play, but it sure was a barn burner. Cant wait for the final…
GO STANFORD!
Soldevvb & Mary,Leave Hillary alone and talk about that Obama. He is the one we have to watch out for. We dont need that Obama to run our country. Why don’t they check Obama & Michelle’s taxes.
Stanford looked real tough last night. Lots of hustle.
Stanford looked GREAT! Of course, ya just can never count out Tennessee. I think the battle of Candice and Candace will be great. I just hope Candace has time to heal up a little bit. She was clearly in pain last night.
And I STILL dont know WTF was up with LSU last night. Intimidated? Just because Pat Summit is known to eat dynamite and poop firecrackers?
heheheheheheheheeheheheheheheeheh!
“In an interview Sunday on CNN, onetime gay conservative pundit Andrew Sullivan asserted that Bush officials who worked on a memo authorizing legal use of torture “should not leave the country” because they “will be, at some point, indicted for war crimes.”
Sullivan cited specifically former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld; onetime White House lawyer John Yoo, who penned the so-called 2003 torture memo and Dave Addington, Vice President Cheney’s then-lawyer and now chief of staff.”
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Andrew_Sullivan_Bush_officials_will_be_0407.html
The evolution of the internet. Goodies yet to come and ‘The Grid’.
http://www.internet2.edu/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,347212,00.html
Million-dollar fixer-upper for sale: five bedrooms, four baths, three-car garage, cavernous living room. Big holes above fireplace where flat-screen TV used to hang.
The U.S. housing crisis has come to McMansion country.
Just as the foreclosure crisis has hollowed out poorer neighborhoods, “for sale” signs are sprouting in upscale developments so new they don’t show up on GPS navigation screens.
Poor people weren’t the only ones who took out risky, high-interest loans during the housing boom. The sharp increase in housing costs — and the desire to live in brand-new, spacious houses with modern features — led many affluent buyers to take out loans they couldn’t afford.
“People had in their head, ‘I need a mud room, I need giant columns, I need a media room, and I’m going to do anything to get it,”‘ said Robert Lang, co-director of Virginia Tech’s Metropolitan Institute, a research organization that focuses on real estate and development.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Foreclosures_come_to_McMansion_coun_04072008.html
Think they’ll be asking for a government bailout? Or maybe the Chinese can help em.
Security officials extinguished the Olympic torch three times Monday as protests against China’s human rights record turned a relay through Paris into a chaotic series of stops and starts.
Despite massive security, at least two activists got within almost an arm’s length of the flame before they were grabbed by police. Officers tackled many protesters and carried off some of them. A protester threw water at the torch but failed to extinguish it and was also taken away.
At the start of the relay, a man identified as a Green Party activist was grabbed by security officers as he headed for 1997 400-meter world champion Stephane Diagana, the president of France’s national athletics league, who was carrying the torch from the first floor of the Eiffel Tower. The man was tackled before he got close to Diagana.
The procession continued but, soon after, a crowd of activists waving Tibetan flags interrupted it for the first time by confronting the torchbearer on a road along the Seine River. The demonstrators did not appear to get close to the torch, but its flame was put out by security officers and brought on board a bus to continue along the route.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Officials_put_out_Olympic_torch_3_t_04072008.html
From the same people who brought us YOU PEOPLE, now we have THAT OBAMA.
We dont need that Obama to run our country.
Sheesh. Get a clue.
The Senator from Illinos, Barak Hussein Obama, the not so reformed Muslim
“On February 27th, speaking to Kristof of The New York Times, Barack Hussein Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
In an interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times, Obama recited the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, “with a first-class [Arabic] accent.”
The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the Shahada:
“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet….”
According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim. This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim’s complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam. Obama chanted it with pride and finesse.”
On Feb 15/08, Usama K. Dakdok, President of The Straight Way of Grace Ministry called Obama’s Church and reported the following conversation: ” I then asked the person who answered what I needed to do to join. She told me that I needed to attend two Sunday School classes in a row and then I would walk the aisle. I replied, “That sounds easy. One last question please. If I am Muslim and I believe in the Prophet Mohammed, peace be unto him and I also believe in Jesus, peace be unto him, do I have to give up my Islamic faith to be a member in your church? She answered: “No, we have many Muslim members in our church.”
In Kenya while he was a Senator, Obama stumped for his cousin, opposition leader Raila Odinga, the son of Senior’s sister, a direct first cousin and nephew of Obama’s father.
On August 29, 2007, Raila Odinga and Shiekh Abdullah Abdi, chairman of the National Muslim Leaders Forum of Kenya signed a Memorandum of Understanding in which it pledges the support of Kenyan Moslems for Raila’s election. In return, as President of Kenya, Raila agrees … within 6 months re-write the Constitution of Kenya to recognize Shariah as the only true law sanctioned by the Holy Quran for Muslim declared regions [and] within one year to facilitate the establishment of a Shariah court in every Kenyan divisional headquarters — everywhere in Kenya, not just in “Muslim declared regions” — and to popularize Islam, the only true religion … by ordering every primary school in Kenya in the regions to conduct daily Madrassa classes.”
Amiris, now the manager of Bank Mandiri, Jakarta, recently said, “Barry was previously quite religious in Islam. His birth father, Barack Hussein Obama was a Muslim economist from Kenya. Before marrying Ann Dunham, Hussein Obama was married to a woman from Kenya who had seven children. All the relatives of Barry’s father were very devout Muslims”
Emirsyah Satar, CEO of Garuda Indonesia, was quoted as saying, “He (Obama) was often in the prayer room wearing a ’sarong’, at that time.”
“He was quite religious in Islam but only after marrying Michelle, he changed his religion.”
So Obama, according to his classmates and friends was a Muslim until the confluence of love and ambition caused him to adopt the cloak of Christianity: to marry Michelle and to run for President of the United States,”
Three years later, in 1971, Obama enrolled in the Besuki Primary School, a government school, as Barry Soetoro, Muslim. In third grade, Senator Obama wrote an essay titled ‘I Want To Be a President.’ His third grade teacher: Fermina Katarina Sinaga “asked her class to write an essay titled ‘My dream: What I want to be in the future.’ Senator Obama wrote ‘I want to be a President,’ she said.” [The Los Angeles Times, 3/15/07]
accumulated research from primary sources who knew Obama from his childhood indicate that he was a devout Muslim, the son of a devout Muslim, the step-son of a devout Muslim and the grandson and namesake (”Hussein”) of a devout Muslim. He was registered in school as a Muslim and demonstrated his ability to chant praise to Allah in impressive Arab-accented tones even as an adult. Just as he has not disavowed his “uncle” Jeremiah, neither has he disavowed his Muslim faith that he was born into, raised with, celebrated and never abandoned. He just covered it over with a thin veneer of his own self-styled “Christianity.”
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12745.htm
In his autobiography, “Dreams From My Father,” Obama mentions studying the Koran and describes the public school as “a Muslim school.”
Airline service is as bad as I think, check this out:
http://www.kansas.com/news/story/364877.html
The misery and headaches of air travel in this country is unconscionable. I love this quote from the article:
“The airlines are in a tough situation, Headley said. A year ago, they were almost ready to make money when they were hit by increased fuel prices, he said.
“‘Oil prices have forced them to say, ‘We can’t consider the customer as much as we’d really like because we have to stay in business,’ he said.
“Performance isn’t expected to improve anytime soon.”
How can you stay in business if you can’t consider the constomer? What do you free market zombies say to that?
NCLB, No Child Left Behind. What is that? It isn’t enough that’s for sure.
We need NALB, No Adult Left Behind! We need a safety net for those who need it. A safety net that is not set at the lowest level of poverty, but one that is set at a level that is decent for a normal human being. A level that allows a family to be raised in a home, not a shack. A level that allows a family to eat, and get health care. A level that ensures we have good schools for our kids.
We need jobs for those who can work, and a helping hand from government to make sure all the people in this great land of opportunity get just that - opportunity. Not an opportunity for poverty level help, but an opportunity to live with a sense of pride at a level that all Americans should expect to be.
For those who are trying real hard, and getting beat down by the man every day, the government should be there to help.
Regular–
What a piece of unmitigated slime you are.
Obama is right. The call to prayer is a haunting beautiful sound. He no doubt heard it often when he lived in Indonesia, and that’s where he learned to recite it.
I learned it when I lived for three years in Malaysia, and I fully concur with Obama.
However, that doesn’t mean he’s a Muslim, but you already knew that, didn’t you.
Perhaps not.
You are pretty ignorant.
CapnAmerica, (Mr Christian Sunday School teacher)
I suppose you see no conflict in saying this:
“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet….”
and then calling yourself a Christian?
I wonder how GMC, the RepubliCON shill, would apologize for this egregious political witch hunt:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/04/60minutes/main3995061.shtml
CBS) A federal court has released former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman from prison, six weeks after 60 Minutes aired a report about a prosecution so suspect that 52 former state attorneys-general have asked Congress to investigate.
In 2006, Siegelman was convicted of bribery, but the prosecution was so troubling that Congress started the investigation. Siegelman says his prosecution was political, orchestrated in the White House.
Siegelman was in prison in February when he watched the original 60 Minutes broadcast with other inmates.
In an interview with 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley, he describes the jailhouse reaction to the broadcast: “Well immediately people were standing up, sayin’, ‘You got screwed.’ And I’d say, ‘Well, you know, I think there were a lot of ya’ll that got screwed.’ And then, one guy stood up and said, ‘No, I was guilty. You got screwed.’ ”
Using different words, a federal appeals court raised the same possibility, agreeing that his “appeal raises substantial questions of law or fact likely to result in reversal” of his conviction.
Siegelman was once the most successful Democrat in Alabama. He claims his prosecution by the U.S. Department of Justice was influenced by the president’s former political advisor, Karl Rove.
“What we need,” Siegleman says, “is Karl Rove to get himself over to the Judiciary Committee and put his hand on a Bible and take an oath and give testimony. And he can either tell the truth or take the Fifth. Either one will satisfy me.”
Karl Rove declined to speak before the House Committee investigating this.
Reciting it doesn’t mean that one agrees with it.
It’s just like when you say the Pledge of Allegiance, Nathan.
“with liberty and justice for all.”
You say it not because it’s true, but because someone believes that it’s true.
I learned it when I lived for three years in Malaysia, and I fully concur with Obama.
I’m guessing that some how you avoided getting ‘caned’ in order to repair your personality.
Cap’N,
Indeed. I don’t recall GMC70 ever commenting on the obvious railroading of Governor Siegelman. I do recall him repeatedly denying there was anything untoward in the Bush’s Justice Department’s use of political prosecutions.
Given his unwavering apologetics and “nothing to see here” in the face of clearly malicious and poltical prosecutions, I would like to know whether GMC70 is a member of the Federalist Society
BTW, the only thing I have a problem with is “Mohammed is his prophet.”
Christians also believe that there is only one God (Allah is just the Arabic word for God, like YHWH is in Hebrew).
It’s exactly what we say in the Apostle’s Creed, “I believe in God the Father Almighty . . . “
Your kinky mind is revealing itself yet again, Reggie.
I’m thinking that caning is what you CONs are really into . . .
If you’re going to quote the Muslim call to prayer, please be kind to translate the whole thing:
“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet….”
…translated, fully, to:
“GOD is Supreme!
… there is no god but GOD…
You got a problem with that?
Obama Cover Up shovel is working fast and furious - First Reverend Wright - Now ties to a Real Estate Scandal”
CHICAGO, Illinois (CNN) — “Indicted real estate developer and political fundraiser Tony Rezko, whose links to Sen. Barack Obama have brought his name into the national spotlight, was arrested Monday morning, an FBI spokesman said.
Rezko was taken into custody by the FBI at his Wilmette, Illinois, home just outside Chicago following a government motion to revoke his bond, said FBI spokesman Tom Simon.
Rezko — whom Sen. Hillary Clinton referred to in a debate as having run a “slum landlord business” — has pleaded not guilty to federal charges of conspiracy, influence peddling and demanding kickbacks from companies seeking Illinois state business.
Obama, speaking Sunday to ABC’s “This Week,” described Rezko as “a friend of mine, a supporter, who I’ve known for 20 years.”
Rezko has contributed to the campaigns of numerous Democrats, including Obama — though the Illinois senator has vowed to give up all funds connected to Rezko. Obama said in a debate that as an attorney he did just about five hours of work for a Rezko project.
Shortly after his election to the U.S. Senate, Obama bought a house for $300,000 below the asking price. The same day, Rezko’s wife bought the lot next door for full price. Months later, Obama bought a sliver of the Rezko land to expand his yard.
As a state senator, Obama wrote letters supporting some Rezko deals.”
Much jibberish on this blog about nothing cept personal attacks.
Any intelligent life here?
CapnAmerica,
If you don’t understand the obvious difference in what Muslims believe to be god and what Christians to believe to be God then you have some serious things to work on Mr Sunday School teacher.
What do you teach in Sunday school?
Regular have you ever HEARD the calls to prayer?
My cousin who lives abroad recently traveled to Turkey where they broadcast the call mulitiple times per day. He said it was beautiful too.
And he certainly isn’t muslim.
Why are you STILL trying to perpetuate this myth? Are you really that hard up dude?
Same God Nathan. You can deny it if you want, but that doesn’t make it factual.
Yes Pmom, I’ve heard it many times while stationed at Incirlik Air Base, Turkey.
As usual, the Democrats don’t get the big picture about Obama sugar-coating his past.
It’s all the same “god,” “Nathan” –
And you’re not Him.
Political Mama,
You don’t believe in God, you don’t practice Christianity, and at every turn you can’t even quote the Bible correctly and fall for the same old atheist misconceptions and attacks on the Bible.
Now you are attempting to tell me that Muslims and Christians worship the same God?
LOL
I believe in God, my own version not yours. I can quote the bible correctly, it depends on your version.
And yep, they stem from the same source. Even have identical stories in them.
Political Mama,
Are you a simple diest or do you have any specific religion you adhere to?
And no, you can’t quote the Bible correctly.
Yeah Nathan, it depends on which version of which Bible you use.
The Cliff Notes version is much different then King James.
Nathan — Go make a little visit to Wichita Interfaith, and get some facts… Then come back and tell us what all you learned!! It will do us ALL some good!!
Chas,
We already know that you think everyones version of god is the same and that there is no one true God.
Nathan — Go make a little visit to Wichita Interfaith, and get some facts… Then come back and tell us what all you learned!! It will do us ALL some good!!
Nathan
Posted April 7, 2008 at 10:09 am | Permalink
Chas,
We already know that you think everyones version of god is the same and that there is no one true God.
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You start the week off with your same friggin LIES — Does your Christianity allow for lying about people you dont agree with???
Chas,
I read the Bible for “facts” on my religion. I don’t need to go to interfaith.
If that is what you want to believe, fine, just don’t call yourself a Christian while you do.
Chas,
If I am lying then answer my very simple questions about what you do believe.
Based on your refusal to answer, your obvious side stepping, and the things you say here, I am left with no other conclusion.
Chas,
If I am telling lies, all you have to do is say this one thing to prove me wrong:
“I believe in the One true God, Jesus Christ, whom everyone must have faith in to be saved”
“I read the Bible for “facts” on my religion”
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That says it all, doesn’t it?
Ha Walker! About the mcmansion crisis, I also saw someone suggesting today that we rip up all these abandoned suburbs and put them back into CROP LAND!
heheheheheheheheheheh.
Seems the price of food is worrying everyone.
I guess it’s true. What goes around, comes around.
Where is SONGBIRD??????
I wish she’d start singin’ and chime in here. Could be the smackdown of the century, all eight years of it!
Nathan is a LIAR — bears false witness against others, when he knows nothing!! Bases false allegations on those who disagree with HIS religious beliefs… LIAR LIAR!!
“Nathan” –
If there is, in fact, only “…one true God…” there’s no way any mere human (even one who uses a different word for “god”) is gonna change that.
Ah, but you feel compelled to speak up for God because somehow the “…one true God,” can’t handle it on His own?
Lucky for God you have His back, “Nathan.” Without “Nathan,” God couldn’t possibly survive, could he?
Chas lied the other day about Hillary Clinton releasing her 2007 tax returns.
Another day, another lie…
SSDD
And NO, Hillary has NOT released her 2007 tax returns yet!
In fact, she filed an extension so that they won’t have to be released before the election in November!
It was all over CNN!
Chas,
Well? Why can’t you say it if I’m a liar?
Hey, KsFarmGrrl: I’m here - but it’s the last 10 days of tax season - and this chick is busy workin’. But I’m at lunchie right now…..
Anyway, I gotta confess. Ain’t got no interest in Islam. Ain’t got no stomach for the Muslim faith. I know others do - and that is their right (unless they emulate Muhammad and practice pedophilia. Unless they emulate Osama and fly biggie planes into biggier buildings….).
This sort of debate makes me head spin - and menopause is makin’ me dizzy enough right now. Nathan answered my question about those really horrifying biblical passages. He doesn’t seem to be one of those Victorian vultures who believe in keepin’ wimmin praygnunt ‘n barefootin’ until they croak. Thus, I wish him well with his faith, even if I lost much of mine nearly 19 years ago.
But if someone gets on here and lays this heapin’ helpin’ of s–t on me: I was the guiltier party 33 years ago and my impregnator/serial sex offender/habitual rapist was an innocent choirboy who somehow just hopped, skipped and gutterhumped his way into my stratosphere without REALLY MEANING TO - well, I’ll probably explode……
Linda,
At least I have something to base my faith on. What does Political Mama base hers on?
Nathan,
I’ve tried in as many words as I know to tell you it isn’t any of my business and in fact is between the individual and their God. I don’t expect I will need to answer for anyone but me. And that is the extent of my business on this subject - ME. I think it is sinful and immoral for me to think I have the right to judge another’s soul. I think God has that under control.
Just a simple ??. Why is it so important that several people on this blog have to jump on Nathan about his faith? He has challenged Chas on the basis of his faith because Chas keeps demeaning Nathan’s faith. Why do the rest (P-mom, Linda, etc..) think that you need to defend Chas?
I say let Chas defend his own position and the blog won’t go into meltdown because of the flame throwers.
ksgrm, not that I think you will understand, but I answered a question directed at me. If anyone is jumping in where they shouldn’t be it seems it might be you this time.
I have never jumped Nathan about his faith.
Linda if Nathan believes that there is one true God (as I do also) why does he have to accept anyone elses belief and let go of his own.
Tolerance is a double edged sword. It has to be on both sides or it is indeed judgemental. When Chas stops injecting his credentials and faith then Nathan should back up and say Ok we agree to disagree. But it has to be between them and not the entire blog.
This be legal in USA?
German woman who killed 8 babies sentenced to 15 years
© AP
2008-04-07 18:01:47 -
FRANKFURT AN DER ODER, Germany (AP) - A German woman convicted of killing eight of her babies must serve the maximum 15 years in prison, a court ruled Monday.
Sabine Hilschenz, 42, was convicted in 2006 of killing eight of her newborn babies and burying them in flower pots and a fish tank in the garden
of her parents’ home near the German-Polish border.
Linda not casting stones sorry if it came across that way but when others get in their arguments it just escalates.
Lindainks55
Posted April 7, 2008 at 10:15 am | Permalink
“I read the Bible for “facts” on my religion”
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That says it all, doesn’t it?
Frank: Didn’t I see you in “Rocky Horror Picture Show?”
Oh, wait - I didn’t SEE that movie. Tim Curry kind of scared me back then - I was only seventeen. Seein’ a dude wearing fishnets was too much for my nubile senses.
I used to think every gay-ee guy wore a dress.
Anyway - are you serious? A woman gave birth to eight children? Is that even medically possible? I guess I haven’t kept up my knowledge - seein’ as how I’ve never crossed the reproductive rubicon meself…..
“ksgrm” asks –
“Why is it so important that several people on this blog have to jump on ‘Nathan’ about his faith?”
Probably because “Nathan” is particulaly eager to jump on others’ spiritual journey.
If there’s anything at all to fundamentalists’ talking about their “personal relationship with Jesus,” it supposed to be, y’know, personal, isn’t it?
I really don’t care what “Nathan” thinks he’s saved from or save for or how he got that way… until “Nathan” starts strutting around as if he, “Nathan,” has somehow come upon THE “Truth” and all others are somehow less than he.
Nathan’s view doesn’t bother me at all, I read it, nod and move on. It’s his view after all.
Libs just can’t resist the notion of bashing a religious reich winger - they think it’s a party game.
Then they get all weepy and refractive when they touch a hot pot.
(chortles)
MH if Chas says something that is patently false Nathan has the right to challenge him on it. By the way Chas posts erronious ‘facts’ on here daily and probably needs to be challenged more often on many subjects. That is part of blogging. It’s the mob mentality on here that gets to me.
“if Chas says something that is patently false”
ksgrm, should that not be “when” not “if”.
Does Chas ever say anything that is true?
ksgrm, it reminds me when I played basketball. Some dude would go in for what they thought was an easy lay up, I would then leap over him and snatch the basketball before it reached the backboard and they would whine about goal tending (which it wasn’t - on the way up.)
They just couldn’t believe that someone could do that.
(smirks)
Take the lie about Hillary Clinton releasing her 2007 tax return, for example.
Chas went on and on about that, go read CNN, etc…
When in fact, Hillary’s own web site stated that she was filing an extension for 2007. Thus, no 2007 tax return can be released.
Right Regular. Then, after stealing the ball, you would race down to the other end and Dunk It!
Just like the time I kicked a 63 yard field goal in New Orleans.
Naw Max, usually played half court during lunch - so just had to take it “back out.” My “dribble skills were never that good to run full court against another team.
I had pretty good leaping ability for a white guy.
From a flat footed jump I could touch 10 foot 9 inches (9 inches above the rim.)
Not a “typical” white guy then Regular!
oops, long arms too - could grab the bottom of the net and squeeze it closed, standing flat-footed on the ground.
“Take the lie about Hillary Clinton releasing her 2007 tax return, for example.”
Max, you keep leaving out the good parts. I loved the name calling because you would not go to CNN and get the real story.
Never did see an “I’m sorry, I made a mistake.”
Standing on the Golden Gate bridge, I discovered that not only is San Francisco bay cold, it’s deep too!
Right on Hud.
It wasn’t that big of a mistake. Yet Chas won’t even admit being wrong about the little things, which turns it into a lie when you keep repeating the same BS.
Sorta like a parrot, isn’t he?
If CNN said so, it must be true!
ROFLMAO!
Linda,
If the extent of this subject for you is… well… you, then why do you keep interjecting yourself into the discussions I am in on faith?
You were the one who took a jab at me because I base my faith on the Bible.
I don’t judge peoples souls either. You seem to have no problem going after my faith, but then chastise me for questioning others.
There is that famous Linda double standard again.
Christians in Palestine pray to Allah - the God of Abraham. Christians in Spain pray to Dios - that same God. Those are words that mean God in Arabic and Spanish.
In the Quran Jesus is named as a Prophet. So, it would seem to me that the biggest difference between Christianity and the other two Abrahaimic religions is the Christian belief that Jesus was THE Son of God; not the identity of God Himself.
Ben,
Christians believe that Jesus was divine, not simply a prophet.
When you reject one part of God, you reject him completely.
Simply saying that because they all use the word “god” in a different language, doesn’t imply that they all actually worship the same god.
Christians do not worship the same god that Muslims do.
Nathan - “Christians believe that Jesus was divine, not simply a prophet.” That is what I said (THE Son).
Ben,
Then why do you say Christians and Muslims are praying to the same God?
Nathan, In no way did you say you base your FAITH on the Bible in the post I commented on.
You said, “I read the Bible for “facts” on my religion.”
And why do I interject myself? That’s an excellent question. One I thank you very much for asking!
I would think whatever name is used there isn’t anyone who spends time in worship, witness, prayer, study of the entity they don’t consider and believe to be the one true God.
But then, humanity surprises me sometimes so there could be someone who knows for a fact they are spending their time worshiping a false God but do it anyway.
Nathan, based on what you just said to Ben, then Jewish folk dont pray to the “One True God” either, right??
BTW, Nathan, you LIE because you keep insisting I do not believe in the One True God…
FIND ONE PLACE WHERE I HAVE SAID THAT… AND IF YOU CANT FIND IT, THEN JUST SHUT UP ABOUT IT!!
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MAX — What I SAID the other day is that the 2007 returns arent even DUE to be filed until April 15 — Why would her 2007 returns be released, when the filing date isnt for another week yet??? Huh???
She HAS RELEASED all of her others!! THAT is not a lie!!
BTW, MAX The other day when Hillary released all of those other years… They also released what they said was a projection of the 2007 return…
Now, WHERE did I lie???
Get a hold of yourself Chas.
You are losing it boy!
Nathan - all three of the Abrahaimic religions claim to pray to the God of Abraham. Since Jews also do not accept Jesus as devine does that mean that Jews also do not pray to the same God?
NO MAX — You lost it a long time ago!! ANYBODY can file for an extension… for ANY reason!! Nothing out of line there… Sorry, Max, YOU LOSE — AGAIN!!
So many apologists for the religion of Islam.
Perhaps some are hoping for “40 virgins.”
He’s breaking up! He’s breaking up!
Oh My! That wasn’t very pretty! (Crash and Burn)
You must now register and be more civil Chas. You are really not being nice, and civil, and honest about your lying, but that’s ok, you can’t help yourself. So get help.
And remember to be civil!
I have a hard time consigning my Jewish friends to Hell simply because they do not accept Christ. I guess others, like the followers of Hagee, have no problems with that.
Re: MAX
Max is delusinal…
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Chas. are you saying that you did not say (several times” her 2007 returns were released.
Yep I said her projected return was released with the others… BECAUSE 2007 is not even due to be filed until NEXT WEEK, Max…
Furthermore, Max, you flaming is totally irrelevant either way!! Extensions of IRS filings are a routine matter…. So, WTF is your big deal?? Ahh yes, you just want to be noticed, and want everybody to think you are posting something earth shaking!!
Nathan, I make my belief in God based on what is right for everyone, not just myself.
That’s the difference, I don’t need a book to tell me that either.
KSGrm you made the worst statement ever, saying that nathan must accept others beliefs and give up his own. Nobody has ever said a word about him giving up his religion. He does need to accept other people’s beliefs…that doesn’t mean he has to believe them personally.
Christ it must be hard to live inside your heads…the world, so difficult and confusing… all these wrong opinions..
I see Nathan cannot prove I said there is not one true God… Which is true…
Nathan, asd PMama so rightly says it, you really must learn to accept that others have differing beliefs, but nobody is asking you to give up yours… Yours is not the only belief…
When you can prove I said there is not one true God… Then perhaps, we can discuss it… But you really must stop lying about what I believe first!!
You know, like Max said - Be Civil!!
My take is that God has revealed Himself to man in different ways. To the Israelites it was a burning bush and a piller of fire. Might He have revealed himself to my Native American ancestors in a different manner? And, if He did and they therefore refer to him as the “Great Father who makes the Forest Green” might He still be the same Being?
“the Christian belief that Jesus was THE Son of God; not the identity of God Himself.”
Get’s real hairy that one. When Jesus was crucified and dead for three days and nights (got up Monday morning for coffee), was God dead?
That whole trinity thing is bogus. Not in the actual texts.
And Christians are NOT all in agreement on this one either.
Like did Adam and Eve have belly buttons? And along comes those who have opinions yes or no. Hence the Church of the Navel.
Christians have divisions in the beliefs just like those of Muslims.
Hard to put a single label on the entire sect.
Spot On Amway!! Well put!!
And that great picture of Jesus with the wavy flowing hair and beard. White guy. Probably one of the most wide spread photo’s on earth?
In the photo he even lacks a jewish nose.
And then that lost tribe found in Africa.
So Jesus is a black man.
And another church is formed.
Ben,
Do you believe in heaven and hell? If so, is there anything which would send someone to hell or does everyone go to heaven?
“I” am not consiging anyone to hell. I am following what the Bible clearly says.
Either you accept that or not, I don’t mind. You just can’t claim to be a Christian or that Christians believe in the same God as do Muslims and Jews when we don’t.
Christians believe in Christ, Muslims and Jews don’t. Thus we don’t believe in the same God.
Allah, Yahwey, God same meaning, different languages. Muslims along with Christians and Jews revere the prophets of the Old Testament and worship the same God. Muslims revere Christ as a prophet along with Mohammed but do not worship them. Those who suggest there is more than one God (ie.,you don’t worship my God) are bordering on heresy for indicating there is more than one God. All of which firms up my reasons to be an agnostic.
Is Jesus God?
And all those famous prayers Jesus made. “Oh Lord, whose art is in heaven….” “My God, My God, for this purpose was I spared!” “It is finished”
Was the guy talking to himself?
And so it goes with religion…..
“And that great picture of Jesus with the wavy flowing hair and beard.”
As a Palestinian Jew, Jesus most likely looked like a young Yasar Arafat.
“Christians believe in Christ, Muslims and Jews don’t. Thus we don’t believe in the same God.”
Again, that label. Nathan, you can speak for yourself - but not all Christians.
“We” Christians, do not all believe as you do.
So why try to represent us all? I’m a little, slightly offended. No disrespect intended.
Reference for the Trinity:
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. John 14:26
“As a Palestinian Jew, Jesus most likely looked like a young Yasar Arafat.”
And I was thinking John Lennon.
If there is a heaven and a hell, I feel God is fair enough that if you believe but act like you don’t, you’ll go to hell; if you don’t believe and you act like you do, you’ll end up in heaven anyway. You just KNOW God has a special place in hell for the religiously hypocritical.
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Nathan - I don’t pretend to know the full nature of God. I also do not believe that any mortal man does. This includes those imperfect mortal men who have written their descriptions of what they think God is.
God did not write the various Books that make up the arbitrary collection you call the Bible.
According to scripture Hell is a physical place on Earth. However, nobody can actually find where this is. It has to be physical otherwise fire would be an impossibility (not to mention it’s affect on the nervous system). Given the description of a “lake of fire” it would appear to be a volcano.
Anyone care to tell me where this hell is other than in the imagination of Christians?
Trinity was a great action movie, a really cool place to watch in July of 1945, and a beautiful county in California.
Nothing much else.
American Way,
What makes you a CHRISTian then?
“You just KNOW God has a special place”
Is that one of those “faith” things fish?
Or is this more from the Book of Ghotiphaze.
No respecter of persons…..
Simple:
Romans Chapter 10. Verses 9 and 10.
Nothing more. Nothing Less. Covers it all.
The rest is trival pursuit. Did God have a belly button too? Who cares!
Ben,
In one sentence you claim you don’t pretend to know the nature of God, but in another you know enough to be able to say that Christians, Muslims, and Jews all worship the same one.
In one sentence you seem to know how God revealed himself to us and in the other you you don’t pretend to know the nature of God.
So which is it Ben? If you don’t know the nature of God and can’t answer questions, what then is it that drives you to get involved in a conversation with me on it while making statements on what you consider the nature of God to be?
I have never said God did write the Bible. I believe that those writers were divinely inspired by God to do so though.
Yeah, it’s a personal belief from the book of fishes. I just assume God is righteous and fair, and isn’t as easily deluded as so many people who pompously promote their version of Him.
You tell me, AmWay, is God intelligent, or a dolt?
Where is hell? I’ll tell you where Hades is, young man.
Hell is something akin to what a wise priest once said (during my confirmation classes in 1976, actually): “Hell is a place of eternal boredom.”
Actually, I’d add to that s–t the following: Hell is having a major depressive illness and being prescribed too low (or too high) of a dosage of one’s life-saving medication.
Perhaps that’s why the fundamentalists’ dire warnings about hell-fie-yah don’t scare me into abject submission. I’ve endured something akin to what Kurt Cobain complained of before he offed himself in 1994: When you’re on this particular med - and ya ain’t got no feelin’s - positive or negative - and you’re just sorta mordant all over - it’s sort of a thanatic existence.
That is what hell is. And I hope you don’t ever go there.
during my confirmation classes in 1976, actually)
66?
“And I was thinking John Lennon.”
But could Jesus do a rocking cover of “Twist and Shout?”
Chas anybody can read your posts yesterday and see you were lying about Hillary Clinton’s 2007 tax returns.
You can’t hide that fact now.
Give it up already.
You have twist and shout by the beatles on epic label? Man!!! My copy got watergated!
Nathan - I did not say that. I stated that all three of the Abrahaimic religions claim to follow the God of Abraham.
As for what drives me? Perhaps the same thing that drives you to make scientific pronouncements as though you were an expert in THAT field.
I converted to Catholicism in 1976 (at age 18). When everyone else in my freshman (college) class was doing the “Dirty Lowdown” (with or without Boz Skaggs playing in the background) - I was committing myself to one of the strictest religious factions on the face of the earth.
Actually, I have fond memories of Father Moriarty, the priest who confirmed my brother and me. (We both left the church 13 years later, by the way.) He was a sprightly Irish leprechaun who cracked jokes, made it clear he’d had a drink or two during his long life, and disdained the hysteria of so many televangelists. (”I don’t act like that when I’m sober,” he deadpanned one evening.)
Father died in 1989, months before both my sibling and I broke away from the Roman Church. But his remark about hell has stayed with me through the years. At 18, I didn’t know what he meant.
I do now as an old broad.
As I understand the history of Jeruselum the descriptions of Hell may have come from the malodorous fires in the garbage dump outside the city’s walls.
You know that does bring up another point. How come we know what Egyptians looked like, we know what the Romans looked like, long before Jesus’s time, but this powerful man there was not ONE image of him drawn, sketched, anywhere?
I agree, Nathan would probably shoot the guy who looked like Jesus.
As far as hell, I was always taught in my whacko fundy religion that Hell was translated incorrectly in the bible and that it just meant the grave.
Muslims do believe in Jesus by the way.
They just deny he being the son of God.
Songbird, I was just placing you about 2 years or so behind me in school. As I was confirmed in 64, I thought it was a typo. BTW, did your brother graduate in 72? Just curious, don’t answer if you’d rather not.
“You have twist and shout by the beatles on epic label?”
Naw, my ex-wife had all my vinyl when I moved out and she lost/pawned them all.
Original copies of Sgt. Peppers, Disraeli Gears, Flowers, Are You Experienced?, etc - over 300 LP’s and hundreds of 45’s.
All the more reason to divorce her.
Political_mama,
We know what Jesus looked like. He was a blue eyed, blond haired Aryan with pale white skin. You know, like your typical Arabic Jew looks like today.
PoliMom, it’s so hard to tell just what people looked like 2000 years ago. There’s been so much cross-breeding. Somewhere in jr high or high school (way back when) I was told there were 4 races of egyptian, everything from lily white to ebony black. Original Iberians were white and blond haired, and blue-eyed, too (some still are) before the moorish occupation.
Aryans come from the pakistan/india area–they can’t be white!
So many haters…
Someone should have told me never to store old LP’s flat. Still have my classics, all warped and scratched. On my highly sensitive record player, they sound awful.
Why am I keeping them? Something won’t let me discard them. (and someone mentioned 45’s, those went out long ago).
“(and someone mentioned 45’s, those went out long ago)”
I’m old, damn it.
No. Me too. I mean, I THREW mine out long ago….
Old, broken up, warped, wet, scratched (mostly by me as a kid skipping the needle back to the good parts).
for skeet shooting, AmWay, 12 guage works better.
I always hated the 45’s. Face it, a full stack was only 20–25 minutes max. then again, I hated spending the 5 bucks for one good song out of 12 on Lps. I still ended up with boxes of 45s. milk crates of lps. and drawers of 8 tracks! Dang, I’m old.
And how many of you also scratched an album trying to hear “Turn me on, dead man” on Revolution Number Nine? Helter Skelter type stuff.
“and drawers of 8 tracks!”
I was pleasantly surprised when all of my old 8 tracks sold at a garage sale. Some guy had restored an old car and wanted them. So you might check out their worth on line.
“Fools and their money soon part.”
American Way,
So you believe that Jesus is Lord, just not Divine?
I dumped all my old music a few years ago. I ahven’t even had a turntable hooked up since the 80s. The last time I listened to a cassett was in the early 90s. I still have the cass player hooked up, though LOL. The stuff just got in the way.
Ben,
So it is not your opinion that Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship the same God?
“and drawers of 8 tracks!”
Damn, you are old. Do you remember having to memorize what was on the other tracks from a given point? If you were playing “Gotta Move” on one track, two clicks on the changer would get you over to “Wild Horses.”
Gotta love that technology.
Ha! The music was great back then, but the technology sucked!
my 8 tracks were so old and worn you could hear the track above and below while listening to the middle.
So Max — Put up or shut up!! Better yet, WHY do you care, Max?? WHY is it important to you, Max?? I know damned well what I said, and didnt say… You want to prove something different, be my guest!! But get off my case about Hillary’s Damned Tax returns!! I dont really care about them… YOU were the one crapping your drawers because she hadnt released them until Satuday!! YOU go have your own coniption fit, I sure dont need one over HIllary!! She released everything up to 2007 — For 2007, she released a projection … Since it aint due to next week…. WHERE DID I LIE BY SAYING SHE RELEASED HER RETURNS SATURDAY???
HMMMM???? SEEMS TO ME LIKE YOU JUST GOT A BEE IN YOUR BOXERS, MAX!! BETTER GET OUT SOME BEE SPRAY!!
ghotiphaze, I still have an ancient cassette with the original bootlegged version of “Let It Be” before Spector got a hold of it and added strings and choirs.
It was called “Get Back” and it sounded far better than the over produced version that Phil cranked out.
Good stuff.
“I still have the cass player hooked up”
So fish, you might know someone interested in buying a slightly used Dynamic Range Expander?
True, WSC, the technology may have “sucked”, but the 8 track was a lot better than trying to set up a record player (on purpose use of the term) on the tranny hump, etc., to hear something other than being played on the AM “Top 40″ station. A buddy of mine tried to set up a “record player” (he’d seen pictures of some custom car type with one) and never had too much success. Not to mention the skipping on the record as a bump was encountered….
And who can forget the extraction of the seeming miles of tape when an 8 track cassette went south? Ah, the not-so-good old days…
And I remember the real techie guys who were so cool (and rich?) who had reels-to-reels.
“Ben,
So it is not your opinion that Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship the same God?”
You are wrong. I believe that they are worshipping the God of Abraham. Just that they, like you, have different understandings of His nature. ALL are imperfect and incomplete. NONE is complete or perfect. ALL claim to rely upon “inspired” writings and many share common writings. But NONE have original manuscripts.
On the other topic - I have a long version of ‘Get Ready” - an enire album side. In good shape.
AmWay - I had lots of reel/reel - still have some of the tapes.
Nathan
Posted April 7, 2008 at 2:01 pm | Permalink
Ben,
So it is not your opinion that Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship the same God?
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NATHAN — Clean your glasses/contacts/eyeballs… Ben never said such a thing!! Intentional Meved style SPIN!!! And you blew it!!
Dynamic Range Expander?
Vrrrrrttttt~! right over my head LOL
pre-dolby dolby?
Ben, I was like the guy at your parties, who you told, “Don’t touch it man!”
AmericanWay, one had arrived when one had a “reel to reel” hooked up to the amp at home. I had a buddy in high school whose dad had such a set up; the admonition of “look, don’t touch” rang loud and clear in that household.
trying to set up a record player (on purpose use of the term) on the tranny hump,
had a friend do something similar. In the trunk, loaded with cinderblocks and suspended on springs. Worked only on real smooth streets and going real slow. Corners still killed it.
THIS IS WHAT BEN SAID, NATHAN >>>>
Ben
Posted April 7, 2008 at 1:31 pm | Permalink
Nathan - I did not say that. I stated that all three of the Abrahaimic religions claim to follow the God of Abraham.
Ben,
You are speaking around the question. In one sentence you are saying I am wrong, but then you go on to basically say that you do believe we all worship the same God.
So, to put the matter at rest, a simple yes or no question:
Do you believe that Christians, Muslims, and Jews all worship the same God?
Y’know God is getting whiplash from looking everytime his name is used here.
Dynamic Range Expander (pioneer model) supposedly expands the high and low end sounds which are lost on the cassette tape medium. When overseas, I was one of the servicemen who just had to buy a complete stereo “system” in Japan when the dollar to yen was a great deal.
I’m tone deaf. But the DRE has a neat light display which flashes horizontally with a blue light and expands when you crank it up.
Had to have it. And now, alas, my wife has relegated the entire syste