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The only sad news about KU is that they will have too hear from Governor Sebelius when they win nationals. She will taint a gloriuos event just by showing up. KU deserves better as does the rest of the State of Kansas. Congratulations to KU and I congratulate you early, for your national championship win on Monday. Way too play, team work prevailed. You have every right to be proud. Continue having fun, you earned it!!!! Herbert West III west.herb@yahoo.com
The only sad news about KU is that they will have too (sic) hear from President Bush when they win nationals. Stay under your rock, Herb.
Charlton Heston finally died. Do you think they can pry that gun out of his cold dead hands now?
What an ass he was…had the insensitivity and callousness to show up in Columbine Colorado immediately after the high school shooting disaster to promote gun rights for the NRA.
Does Governor Sebelius have a restraining order against you, Herb?
I certainly hope so.
April 5, 2008
Ohio Hospital Contests a Story Clinton Tells
By DEBORAH SONTAG
“Over the last five weeks, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York has featured in her campaign stump speeches the story of a health care horror: an uninsured pregnant woman who lost her baby and died herself after being denied care by an Ohio hospital because she could not come up with a $100 fee.
The woman, Trina Bachtel, did die last August, two weeks after her baby boy was stillborn at O’Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, Ohio. But hospital administrators said Friday that Ms. Bachtel was under the care of an obstetrics practice affiliated with the hospital, that she was never refused treatment and that she was, in fact, insured.
“We implore the Clinton campaign to immediately desist from repeating this story,” said Rick Castrop, chief executive officer of the O’Bleness Health System.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/05/us/politics/05woman.html?ei=5090&en=7824b4f8ea3b363d&ex=1365134400&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print
Ol Hill just can’t keep that forked tongue in her mouth. Just goes to show the truth always take a back seat to her agenda I guess.
Mary Caruso
Posted April 6, 2008 at 7:16 am | Permalink
“Charlton Heston finally died. Do you think they can pry that gun out of his cold dead hands now?
What an ass he was…”
No Mary, you are the ASS…
Charlton Heston was a wonderful person with much more to offer the world that your mindless blogging contributes.
Get a life, he had more of one with senior dementia than you do now.
What did he contribute, Boxlock? He was an actor and spokesperson for the NRA….I see nothing there that would command my respect.
He stepped over the line when he railed about gun rights in front of the Colorado parents and victims less than two days after the shooting….now how cruel was that?
I’m glad the insensitive jerk is dead.
You never did answer my question the other day (or maybe I missed it), Boxlock. What sort of a health care professional are you?
“People! Soylent Green is made out of people!”
This was an incredibly BAD actor. WAY over the top in his performances.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/06/washington/06patch.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
If we kill you, you can’t sue us, even when we lie to the FDA. Ha, ha ha ha. Decon 101 will be dancing.
Changes in Arctic fisheries and the need to act:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/32790.html
“Yet “as the climate changes, the ice recedes, the water warms, we should be expecting and anticipating that there could be major commercial fisheries north of the Bering Strait,” Balton testified at a recent Senate Commerce Committee meeting.
The United States needs to make an aggressive case for managing those Arctic Ocean fisheries before the ice thins enough for fishing vessels to access them in the summer without ice-breaking equipment, said U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska.
“It’s time that we really worked on really an aggressive approach to protect the Arctic,” he said.
There are just two or three years left to develop a plan, Stevens said.”
REPUBLICAN Stevens of Alaska seems to see this happening even though the Republicans in the White House and elsewhere deny that any of this is happening.
Congratulations to the Jayhawks on their very impressive win. If that team shows up tomorrow night I think they can take it all.
As for my Bruins … :(
Let’s not forget Planet of the Apes. It didn’t get much worse than that.
He was in some B movie where everyone was turning blue and growing white afros. I don’t remember the name of it. I know Hesston ran around with a gun a lot in it and not much else.
Well lived, Mr. Heston, well lived.
That was The Omega Man…now that was a good movie! He did act in a few good ones.
And by what do you determine that someone has lived a good life, Out?
Doesn’t seem to me he contributed much to humanity other than fighting for gun rights…how did that make the world a better place?
Well, Boxlock…I’m waiting.
Typical con…throws out a few insults when he can’t think of anything intelligent to write and then takes off.
Off to work. See ya later.
It didn’t get more over the top than Hesston and Yul Brinner in The Ten Commandments. Heh heh that movie is like a comedy because the drama is so…glaring.
It will be interesting to see how this confrontation plays out:
http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/564973.html
Texas authorities prepare for worst at polygamist compound
ELDORADO, Texas — ELDORADO — Tensions were rising late Saturday at the YFZ Ranch in West Texas, where members of a secretive polygamous sect were barring authorities from entering the temple of the church’s sprawling compound.
Allison Palmer, assistant district attorney for the 51st District that includes Schleicher, Coke and part of Tom Green counties, said authorities “were preparing for all possibilities” and that ambulances and other equipment were on stand-by at the ranch.
Waco redeaux?
The Heston family issued the following statement:
“Indeed, he committed himself to every role with passion, and pursued every cause with unmatched enthusiasm and integrity.
We knew him as an adoring husband, a kind and devoted father, and a gentle grandfather, with an infectious sense of humor. He served these far greater roles with tremendous faith, courage and dignity. He loved deeply, and he was deeply loved.
No one could ask for a fuller life than his. No man could have given more to his family, to his profession, and to his country. In his own words, “I have lived such a wonderful life! I’ve lived enough for two people.”
And what will they say about you Mary?
Here is a speech of Heston’s that I had saved for quite some time. I don’t have link to it, so I apologize for the length.
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>> Speech by Charlton Heston at Harvard
>>
>> “Winning The Cultural War”
>> Harvard Law School Forum
>> Tuesday, 16 February 1999
>>
>> I remember my son when he was five, explaining to his
>> kindergarten class what his father did for a living. “My Daddy,”
>> he said, “pretends to be people.”
>>
>> There have been quite a few of them. Prophets from the Old and
>> New Testaments, a couple of Christian saints, generals of various
>> nationalities and different centuries, several kings, three
>> American presidents, a French cardinal and two geniuses,
>> including Michelangelo. If you want the ceiling repainted I’ll
>> do my best. There always seem to be a lot of different fellows up
>> here. I’m never sure which one of them gets to talk. Right
>> now, I guess I’m the guy.
>>
>> As I pondered our visit tonight it struck me: If my Creator gave
>> me the gift to connect you with the hearts and minds of those
>> great men, then I want to use that same gift now to reconnect
>> you with your own sense of liberty … your own freedom of
>> thought … your own compass for what is right.
>>
>> Dedicating the memorial at Gettysburg, Abraham Lincoln said of
>> America, “We are now engaged in a great Civil War, testing
>> whether this nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated
>> can long endure.”
>>
>> Those words are true again. I believe that we are again engaged
>> in a great civil war, a cultural war that’s about to hijack your
>> birthright to think and say what resides in your heart. I fear
>> you no longer trust the pulsing lifeblood of liberty inside you
>> … the stuff that made this country rise from wilderness into
>> the miracle that it is.
>>
>> Let me back up. About a year ago I became president of the
>> National Rifle Association, which protects the right to keep and
>> bear arms. I ran for office, I was elected, and now I serve … I
>> serve as a moving target for the media who’ve called me
>> everything from “ridiculous” and “duped” to a “brain-injured,
>> senile, crazy old man.” I know … I’m pretty old…but I sure
>> ain’t senile.
>>
>> As I have stood in the crosshairs of those who target Second
>> Amendment freedoms, I’ve realized that firearms are not the only
>> issues. No, it’s much, much bigger than that. I’ve come to
>> understand that a cultural war is raging across our Land, in
>> which, with Orwellian fervor, certain acceptable thoughts and
>> speech are mandated.
>>
>> For example, I marched for civil rights with Dr. King in 1963 –
>> Long before Hollywood found it fashionable. But when I told an
>> audience last year that white pride is just as valid as black
>> pride or red pride or anyone else’s pride, they called me a
>> racist. I’ve worked with brilliantly talented homosexuals all my
>> life. But when I told an audience that gay rights should extend
>> no further than your rights or my rights, I was called a
>> homophobe. I served in World War II against the Axis powers. But
>> during a speech, when I drew an analogy between singling out
>> innocent Jews and singling out innocent gun owners, I was called
>> an anti-Semite.
>>
>> Everyone I know knows I would never raise a closed fist against
>> my country. But when I asked an audience to oppose this cultural
>> persecution, I was compared to Timothy McVeigh.
>>
>> From Time magazine to friends and colleagues, they’re essentially
>> saying, “Chuck, how dare you speak your mind. You are using
>> language not authorized for public consumption!”
>>
>> But I am not afraid. If Americans believed in political
>> correctness, we’d still be King George’s boys-subjects bound to
>> the British crown.
>>
>> In his book, “The End of Sanity,” Martin Gross writes that
>> “Blatantly irrational behavior is rapidly being established as
>> the norm in almost every area of human endeavor. There seem to be
>> new customs, new rules, and new anti-intellectual theories
>> regularly foisted on us from every direction. Underneath, the
>> nation is roiling. Americans know something without a name is
>> undermining the nation, turning the mind mushy when it comes to
>> separating truth from falsehood and right from wrong. And they
>> don’t like it.”
>>
>> Let me read a few examples.
>>
>> At Antioch college in Ohio, young men seeking intimacy with a
>> coed must get verbal permission at each step of the process from
>> kissing to petting to final copulation … all clearly spelled
>> out in a printed college directive.
>>
>> In New Jersey, despite the death of several patients nationwide
>> Who had been infected by dentists who had concealed their AIDs
>> — the state commissioner announced that health providers who
>> are HIV-positive need not… need not … tell their patients
>> that they are infected.
>>
>> At William and Mary, students tried to change the name of the
>> school team “The Tribe” because it was supposedly insulting to
>> local Indians, only to learn that authentic Virginia chiefs truly
>> like the name.
>>
>> In San Francisco, city fathers passed an ordinance protecting the
>> rights of transvestites to cross-dress on the job, and for
>> transsexuals to have separate toilet facilities while undergoing
>> sex change surgery.
>>
>> In New York City, kids who don’t speak a word of Spanish have
>> been placed in bilingual classes to learn their three R’s in
>> Spanish solely because their last names sound Hispanic.
>>
>> At the University of Pennsylvania, in a state where thousands
>> died at Gettysburg opposing slavery, the president of that
>> college officially set up segregated dormitory space for black
>> students.
>>
>> Yeah, I know … that’s out of bounds now. Dr. King said
>> “Negroes.” Jimmy Baldwin and most of us on the March said,
>> “black.” But it’s a no-no now. For me, hyphenated identities are
>> awkward … particularly “Native-American.” I’m a Native
>> American, for God’s sake. I also happen to be a blood-initiated
>> brother of the Miniconjou Sioux. On my wife’s side, my grandson
>> is a thirteenth generation native American … with a capital
>> letter on “American.”
>>
>> Finally, just last month … David Howard, head of the Washington
>> D.C. Office of Public Advocate, used the word “niggardly” while
>> talking to colleagues about budgetary matters. Of course,
>> “niggardly” means stingy or scanty. But within days Howard was
>> forced to publicly apologize and resign.
>>
>> As columnist Tony Snow wrote: “David Howard got fired because
>> some people in public employ were morons who (a) didn’t know the
>> meaning of niggardly,’ (b) didn’t know how to use a dictionary to
>> discover the meaning, and (c) actually demanded that he apologize
>> for their ignorance.”
>>
>> What does all of this mean? It means that telling us what to
>> think has evolved into telling us what to say, so telling us what
>> to do can’t be far behind. Before you claim to be a champion of
>> free thought, tell me:
>>
>> Why did political correctness originate on America’s campuses?
>> And why do you continue to tolerate it? Why do you, who’re
>> supposed to debate ideas, surrender to their suppression? Let’s
>> be honest. Who here thinks your professors can say what they
>> really believe? It scares me to death, and should scare you too,
>> that the superstition of political correctness rules the halls of
>> reason.
>>
>> You are the best and the brightest. You, here in the fertile
>> cradle of American academia, here in the castle of learning on
>> the Charles River, you are the cream. But I submit that you, and
>> your counterparts across the land, are the most socially
>> conformed and politically silenced generation since Concord
>> Bridge. And as long as you validate that … and abide it …
>> you are – by your grandfathers’ standards – cowards.
>>
>> Here’s another example. Right now at more than one major
>> university, Second Amendment scholars and researchers are being
>> told to shut up about their findings or they’ll lose their jobs.
>> Why? Because their research findings would undermine big-city
>> mayor’s pending lawsuits that seek to extort hundreds of millions
>> of dollars from firearm manufacturers. I don’t care what you
>> think about guns. But if you are not shocked at that, I am
>> shocked at you. Who will guard the raw material of unfettered
>> ideas, if not you? Who will defend the core value of academia, if
>> you supposed soldiers of free thought and expression lay down
>> your arms and plead, “Don’t shoot me.”?
>>
>> If you talk about race, it does not make you a racist. If you see
>> distinctions between the genders, it does not make you a sexist.
>> If you think critically about a denomination, it does not make
>> you anti-religion. If you accept but don’t celebrate
>> homosexuality, it does not make you a homophobe. Don’t let
>> America’s universities continue to serve as incubators for this
>> rampant epidemic of new McCarthyism.
>>
>> But what can you do? How can anyone prevail against such
>> pervasive social subjugation? The answer’s been here all along. I
>> learned it 36 years ago, on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in
>> Washington D.C., standing with Dr. Martin Luther King and two
>> hundred thousand people.
>>
>> You simply … disobey. Peaceably, yes. Respectfully, of course.
>> Nonviolently, absolutely. But when told how to think or what to
>> say or how to behave, we don’t. We disobey social protocol that
>> stifles and stigmatizes personal freedom. I learned the awesome
>> power of disobedience from Dr.King … who learned it from
>> Gandhi, and Thoreau, and Jesus, and every other great man who
>> led those in the right against those with the might.
>>
>> Disobedience is in our DNA. We feel innate kinship with that
>> Disobedient spirit that tossed tea into Boston Harbor, that sent
>> Thoreau to jail, that refused to sit in the back of the bus, that
>> protested a war in VietNam. In that same spirit, I am asking you
>> to disavow cultural correctness with massive disobedience of
>> rogue authority, social directives and onerous law that weaken
>> personal freedom.
>>
>> But be careful … it hurts. Disobedience demands that you put
>> yourself at risk. Dr. King stood on lots of balconies. You must
>> be willing to be humiliated … to endure the modern-day
>> equivalent of the police dogs at Montgomery and the water
>> cannons at Selma. You must be willing to experience discomfort.
>> I’m not complaining, but my own decades of social activism have
>> taken their toll on me.
>>
>> Let me tell you a story. A few years back I heard about a rapper
>> named Ice-T who was selling a CD called “Cop Killer” celebrating
>> ambushing and murdering police officers. It was being marketed by
>> none other than Time/Warner, the biggest entertainment
>> conglomerate in the world. Police across the country were
>> outraged. Rightfully so – at least one had been murdered. But
>> Time/Warner was stonewalling because the CD was A cash cow for
>> them, and the media were tiptoeing around it because the rapper
>> was black.
>>
>> I heard Time/Warner had a stockholders meeting scheduled in
>> Beverly Hills. I owned some shares at the time, so I decided to
>> attend. What I did there was against the advice of my family and
>> colleagues I asked for the floor. To a hushed room of a thousand
>> average American stockholders, I simply read the full lyrics of
>> “Cop Killer” – every vicious, vulgar, instructional word.
>>
>> “I GOT MY 12 GAUGE SAWED OFF
>> I GOT MY HEADLIGHTS TURNED OFF
>> I’M ABOUT TO BUST SOME SHOTS OFF
>> I’M ABOUT TO DUST SOME COPS OFF…”
>>
>> It got worse, a lot worse. I won’t read the rest of it to you.
>> But trust me, the room was a sea of shocked, frozen, blanched
>> faces. The Time/Warner executives squirmed in their chairs and
>> stared at their shoes. They hated me for that.
>>
>> Then I delivered another volley of sick lyric brimming with
>> racist filth, where Ice-T fantasizes about sodomizing two 12-year
>> old nieces of Al and Tipper Gore.
>>
>> “SHE PUSHED HER BUTT AGAINST MY … .”
>>
>> Well, I won’t do to you here what I did to them. Let’s just say I
>> left the room in echoing silence. When I read the lyrics to the
>> waiting press corps, one of them said “We can’t print that.” “I
>> know,” I replied,”but Time/Warner’s selling it.” Two months
>> later, Time/Warner terminated Ice-T’s contract. I’ll never be
>> offered another film by Warners, or get a good review from Time
>> magazine. But disobedience means you must be willing to act, not
>> just talk.
>>
>> When a mugger sues his elderly victim for defending herself …
>> jam the switchboard of the district attorney’s office.
>>
>> When your university is pressured to lower standards until 80%
>> of the students graduate with honors … choke the halls of the
>> board of regents.
>>
>> When an 8-year-old boy pecks a girl’s cheek on the playground
>> and gets hauled into court for sexual harassment … march on
>> that school and block its doorways.
>>
>> When someone you elected is seduced by political power and
>> betrays you…petition them, oust them, banish them.
>>
>> When Time magazine’s cover portrays millennium nuts as
>> deranged, Crazy Christians holding a cross as it did last month
>> … boycott their magazine and the products it advertises.
>>
>> So that this nation may long endure, I urge you to follow in the
>> hallowed footsteps of the great disobediences of history that
>> freed exiles, founded religions, defeated tyrants, and yes, in
>> the hands of an aroused rabble in arms and a few great men,
>> by God’s grace, built this country.
>>
>> If Dr. King were here, I think he would agree. Thank you.
>>
Man, it is SCARY sharing the planet with some of you people…
Mary Caruso
Posted April 6, 2008 at 7:56 am |
“Well, Boxlock…I’m waiting.”
Ha, Mary you humor me, well actually saying that is simply being kind on my part….you’re a joke.
What makes you think I would feel ANY obligation to respond to you at all other than when I feel like it.
Here let me explain….I don’t.
Off one of Obama’s websites
Barack Obama will raise the minimum wage, index it to inflation and increase the Earned Income Tax Credit to make sure that full-time workers earn a living wage that allows them to raise their families and pay for basic needs.
Does this mean that every 17 year old worker at his McJob will make enough to support his family on the pay he makes at minimum wage.
I guess this means that the job I work so hard at and make a good living, I can quit and go pump gas and make the same money? Sweet! Mindless work, making the same money.
Of course I’d hate to think what the cost of products wil be.
Would one of you libs be so kind as to explain HOW Obamanation is going to bring back the manufacturing jobs to Penn and Iowa? Somehow the reason they left was because of President Bush (I still haven’t figured that one out yet). So I can only assume that if one president can make them allllll go away then one president can make them allllll come back. How is Obama gonna do it??
Get rid of all the government regulation?
So if one of you nice libs will go to obamas website, I refuse to “sign in” and paste what he said I love to read it.
Thanks
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#innovation
There you go Gene. You don’t need to “sing in.” Of course, going to his site and clicking on the correct spot takes you to all the info without signing in, guess you didn’t see that option with your eyes closed.
Ben, I was disappointed with you at the Bruins loss. Then I remembered the teams your alma mater has put together have been to three successive final fours and that only addresses the most recent times. Quite a lot of success to be very happy and proud of! Wear your Bruins shirt proudly! Does this mean you won’t be at Players?
Probably not. Have too much work I should be doing anyway at home. Working weekends interferes with getting the ‘honey-do’ list taken care of.
It should be quite a crowd there though and I have to say that KU looked awesome against UNC. And UCLA looked HORRIBLE. I have to wonder – is Memphis that good? We’ll find out tomorrow night. Should be a barn-burner.
Dont forget the women’s games. I believe it was the immortal Bruin John Wooden who noted that the purest basketball being played today is in the women’s game. I think that was about 5 years ago or so when he said that, and the women’s games just keep getting better.
No running up and down the court and dunking. They actually PLAY basketball.
You are absolutely correct ksfg – Wooden noted that for team play watch the women’s games. In many ways they are reminiscent of basketball of the 70s.
Charlton Heston finally died. Do you think they can pry that gun out of his cold dead hands now?
According to the article I read in the wee hours of this morning, Hesston had been battling Alzheimers for several years. No mention of how long, but who knows how this affected his thinking, early on?
I also wasn’t aware that he was a Kennedy Democrat, before the gun issue became big. And now that I’m typing this, I’m wondering how one could be a Kennedy Democrat and think gun ownership should have no boundaries. That is, of course, if you believe in the Magic Bullet theory.
Yes, the Women’s Game is very good, passing, screens, setting up shots, defense, but……….
But, as played by KU, the raw athleticism of the Men’s game combined with true team play is awe inspiring.
As for UCLA – sorry Ben – I really thought they had a very good shot at Memphis, but those Tigers are just on top of their game – just four points short of a perfect season with one game to go.
KU will be a 5-7 point underdog, I think, but stranger things have happened.
Go KU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Outlander thanks for sharing the Heston speech with us. He was right on on so many things.
Loved the KU game. Can’t wait for the finals. It should be a very good game
I have followed Tennessee womens BB for years. They are always awesome. Telling my age here but when I was in school we still played 1/2 court. Much better today.
‘granny’ – I also remember the half-court girls games. I guess they were not considered able to go the entire floor.
RD I too was a Kennedy democrat. On the day he was shot I grieved as if a member of my family had been shot. It didn’t make me hate guns but it did make me severely dislike revolutionaries who thought they had all of the answers. I see some of that same thought process is alive and well today unfortunately.
I believe all of the old adages such as:
When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns.
Guns don’t kill people, people kill people.
I guess that mindset is the difference between gun advocates and 2nd amendment surpressors.
I was always a guard and never got to shoot a basket. We were more ‘delicate’ then I guess.
With BB on everyones mind I have to brag a little on college wrestling and how proud I am of the men who compete in this sport. We were fortunate enough to be able to attend the D1 National Finals in St Louis Easter weekend. What a parade of talent. These boys are so disciplined and are models of clean living. This is reflected in the level of competetion they exhibited.
One young man who was there wrestling for Cornell was involved on a car accident the day after he got back home. From the subsequent MRI it was discovered that he was in stage III cancer. He started a web page and daily writes about his treatments and feelings. What an inspiration. Anyone who is interested can read it at:
http://adamfrey.us/?page_id=5#comment-413
I played against a female basketball once that had started for a University (can’t remember her name now…) She was about six foot one inches tall. Every time I took a step towards her, she would pop one through the net.
She won the game of H.O.R.S.E. btw
:(
er female basketball player
– lack of coffee or caffeinated beverage of choice.
http://www.iraqupdates.com/p_articles.php/article/25097
Who is to blame for this?
5 million Iraqi orphans, anti-corruption board reveals
Baghdad, 15 December 2007 (Voices of Iraq)
Iraq’s anti-corruption board revealed on Saturday that there were five million Iraqi orphans as reported by official government statistics, urging the government, parliament, and NGOs to be in constant contact with Iraq’s parentless children.
“The government should set up an institutional or legislative program to help the Iraqi orphans. Iraqi is an oil-rich country and it is not acceptable that its orphans remain groaning in this tragedy,” the anti-corruption board chief, Moussa Faraj, said during a conference in Baghdad dedicated to orphans in Iraq.
“The board on its own cannot meet the Iraqi orphans’ needs, but there should be an organization or even a ministry to provide care for orphans,” he said.
The Iraqi parliament’s women & family committee had proposed a draft law to set up a fund for the orphans.
During the conference, Wijdan Salem Mikhail, the Iraqi minister of human rights, said in a speech that the phenomenon “is one of the most passive things that grew immensely during the past few years due to destructive wars and unbridled violence in the country to unprecedented heights.”
We weren’t less tough just lived in days when women and men were treated differently and women couldn’t possibly be equal to anything men did (sic).
There were six members of the team and we concentrated on defense or offense. Maybe that’s why still today the basics of basketball are visible on more women’s teams than mens.
Rice wants to be VP. Ain’t that a laugher.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/GOP_strategist_Condi_actively_campaigning_to_0406.html
Another Waco? I wonder if we’ve learned anything at all.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Conflict_escalates_at_polygamist_re_04052008.html
A lot of “firsts” could fall with Rice — first woman, black, gay to hold such a high elected office. Of course, NONE of those qualifies her to even hold an appointed position, but I trust some won’t see beyond the ends of their turned-up noses. I’m also not sure she knows more than McCain about who is who and what is what in the Middle East. If she does, she hasn’t yet shown it!
Baby-hating Democrat Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano vetoed pro-life bills Friday banning partial-birth abortion and strengthening parental consent requirements, making a total of 7 vetoes of pro-life bills passed by the Arizona Legislature.
Where are Senator McCain’s repeated condemnations of his governor’s vetoes?
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“The way you end a pregnancy to save a woman’s life is to deliver the (baby}. If you wait three days to do a partial birth abortion, she’s going to end up in the morgue.”
. . . former abortionist quack Anthony Levatino, of Las Cruces, NM, on the reason no health exception loophole should appear in partial-birth abortion bans
Gene Raston — Your post upthread might have been comical, ecept I think you qactually believe the drivel you wrote.
Go back and read what you said again… About the McD’s worker… Those people aqre not FULL TIME employees… Therefore, that is a total straw man argument you try to use… The McD’s employee would not qualify for the proposal you try to pawn off on to Obama…
NOR would your own job/work situation… And Obama’s proposal NOWHERE says all people get paid the same amount of income, regardless of what job they do!! That is just another one of your “I Want Obama to be a Commie” stupidity routines!!
Try again, dude!!
“5 million Iraqi orphans, anti-corruption board reveals”
Add that to the 20 million refugees that Bush’s elective war has created and you have great recruiting ground for alQuada.
Gene Raston – “Obamanation” – gee, now you sound like Parkay with your irrational name-calling.
“I also wasn’t aware that he was a Kennedy Democrat, before the gun issue became big. And now that I’m typing this, I’m wondering how one could be a Kennedy Democrat and think gun ownership should have no boundaries. That is, of course, if you believe in the Magic Bullet theory.” — RD
Mental deterioration/whoring?
Hard core conservatives = about the same percentage of people who later get Alzheimer’s. Could there be a connection? However, I’m sticking with my prime theory that Conservatism is just drunken bar talk, since what I used to hear there before I stopped going was the same thing I hear from Conservatives on this board. That is, drunken muttering.
More Signs of National Healthcare Failure! Britain must now resort to Pharmacists prescribing drugs, because there are not enough doctors willing to work for $peanuts/year to treat all the patients!
What do you expect from FREE Healthcare?
http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5i_5mbbLrXFP039Kq5AXG7LuQVgjw
British pharmacists blur line with doctors, treat patients, prescribe drugs
5 hours ago
LONDON — Twice a week, Stephen Inns sees patients with high blood pressure at his office in a medical practice in southern England. Usually, he conducts a few quick tests, asks them how they’re doing, and adjusts their medicines if necessary.
But Inns isn’t a doctor. He’s a pharmacist.
Inns is one of fewer than 100 pharmacists across Britain recently given permission to prescribe drugs for patients and provide basic care, without relying on a doctor. The move is part of Britain’s attempt to expand its health system, by allowing medical professionals like nurses and pharmacists to treat patients.
While many countries are slowly loosening the rules on non-doctors giving out medicines, none has given pharmacists as much power as Britain has in its effort to increase services and cut costs to a financially overburdened health system.
If today’s Conservatives would spend half the time trying to get anything closer to grand back in the Grand Ole Party as they do flaming they may have a candidate worth voting for. I’m old enough to remember when fiscally conservative and limited government were more than words with no meaning.
But today’s Republicans sure make the Democratic Party look grander!
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-46/#comment-327040
We have that here already Max… been around for years… P.A.’s — F.N.P.’s — They see patients… treat patients… prescribe medications… perform medical tests… But they arent Doctors!!!
In fact Max, if it wasnt for PA’s and FNP’s hundreds of small town clinics could not keep their doors open!! They are all over Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, Iowa, and many other states!!
Dont know what point you are trying to make… Looks like England is just now catching up to where we are here!! LOL
Believe me: Memphis IS that good. Should be a great game tomorrow night. I was hoping Ben’s Bruins could play well enough to crystallize some thought in, and athleticism out, of Memphis last night, but I really didn’t see that happen. The Tigers are so good that no opponent has made them doubt their athleticism on the court (like Davidson was able to do to KU). They’re able to just go and blow. If KU lets Derrick Rose stutter step to the bucket like UCLA let him stutter step to the bucket last evening, it’s probably going to be a long night for the Jayhawks. I was stunned that Rose was able to get away with that against UCLA.
That said, KU plays some pretty damn fine defense.
Anybody catch CBS’s broadcast of Self’s pre-game speech last night? THAT was a great speech. It should show up in biz skools, it was so good (I am not kidding). Self told his kids to relax, that Davidson was behind ‘em. Then he told them to have as much fun playing UNC as he was going to have coaching against UNC. You could literally feel the tension flow out of the locker room when he said that. But the kicker was when Self told his team that in about 2.5 hours they’d be back celebrating a victory. You could just see those young men welling up with anticipation when he finished, they were P U M P E D. Great, great speech.
Old Bill Self is a great motivator, and a great recruiter. Tomorrow night I guess we’ll get to see just how far he and his kids have come.
GO KU!
PS Wore the same gray KANSAS tee shirt I wore under my duds last night to the gym this afternoon. My gym is in Norfolk, but this is definitely UNC country. Got some peevish looks and one guy tried to take the piss outta me by asking “who won that game last night?” (he knew; he thought I was rubbin’ it in), kinda wish I hadn’t worn it. Sure didn’t mean to rub the salt in. Oh well.
GO KU!!!
I caught one good comment from Memphis coach – he was asked about one of his players who doesn’t often shoot but does ’support’ on the court (don’t recall the details). Coach pointed out that the player is unslefish and just wants his team to win. I was quite impressed by their team play last night.
It will definitely be a great game tomorrow night. I think we play a game much like Memphis, and both teams have depth, and strong front lines. I predict that we will win if we have 10 turnovers or less, and if we out-rebound Memphis like we did to NC. But the team who makes the fewest mistakes will win. Both teams have great defenses. This game may resemble more the game against Davidson than the game against N.Caro.
“And what will they say about you Mary?”
Probably kinder things than they’ll say about you, “Boxlock”.
I thought you said you worked in the medical profession for 40 years….are you pulling a Hilary?
Did you just “misspeak”?
“More Signs of National Healthcare Failure! Britain must now resort to Pharmacists prescribing drugs, because there are not enough doctors willing to work for $peanuts/year to treat all the patients!”
Their failures in hralthcare pale in comparison to our’s, Max.
PAs and nurse practitioners have been prescribing drugs forever in this country, Max…what’s the big whoop? If I want to know the scoop on a drug..I go to a pharmacist for info before I go to a doctor.
I think you’ll see that the infant mortality is lower and the overall health of citizens is better in European countries. No system is perfect…and we have a long way to go before ours is even up to par. Get seriously ill, Max..and you’ll see what I mean.
The team with the highest score when the buzzer goes off is usually the winner. Mistakes or not. :D
It would be quite convenient and cost-effective for me if I could get certain routine tests done at the dillons Pharmacy. Then I could relay the results to my DR and adjust dosages accordingly. There is no reason a Doctor of Pharmacy cannot do more than just be a pill dispenser.
Regular – very true. I think tomorrow night’s game will be one of the great ones – even without the Bruins.
So Ben, will UCLA be Loveless next year or do you think that there is a chance he will come back for one more year, a la the Florida team?
I would think that if he did come back, UCLA would be a virtual lock for a preseason 1#.
Kelly and Mary Caruso, No the Governor doesnt have a restraining order aginst me. It is Unconstitutional to hinder Admendment 1 of the Constitution. I have spoke with Captain Eric Sauer a couple of times. He is in charge of her security. He works for the Highway Patrol. What has she done for kansas that justifies what she has taken for herself? As I stated earlier, she belongs to the “P.A.C.” Personal Agenda Committee. Herbert West III, west.herb@yahoo.com P.S. I realize President Bush will speak too the National Champs of the NCAA Tournament. When Kansas wins, so will the States Governor, Sebelius.
“I have spoke with Captain Eric Sauer a couple of times. He is in charge of her security.”
Were you in handcuffs at the time?
WSC – I sure hope he stays. I’d love to see the Bruins take it all next year.
Herb- probably no reason to do a restraining order – just ignore the ranting. As for “P.A.C.” – just what is YOUR personal agenda Herb?
maybe the padded room?
No, I called the mansion and spoke with him there and I called the Capitol and caught him at the Capital Office. Why?? You seem to find it odd that people can carry conversations with the Police while not in custody. Why? Herbert West III west.herb@yahoo.com
What Persoanl Agenda would I have? I dont want anything that I would get that would sacrifice the rights or needs of all kansas Residents for my Persoanl Use or Gain. Name 1 thing I would recieve or gain personaly that is taking away from the majority of kansas Residents and their rights/resources. Herbert West III west.herb@yahoo.com
“I have spoke with Captain Eric Sauer a couple of times. He is in charge of her security”
Herb, you’re starting to scare me.
“It would be quite convenient and cost-effective for me if I could get certain routine tests done at the dillons Pharmacy. Then I could relay the results to my DR and adjust dosages accordingly. There is no reason a Doctor of Pharmacy cannot do more than just be a pill dispenser.”
That’s a brillant idea, Ben…Why not? Just one more way to cut the cost of healthcare, making it more affordable.
Yea right – but you want to be appointed governor of my state. If you think you should be governor do it the old-fashioned way – RUN FOR OFFICE!
“Why?”
Oh, I don’t know, maybe your irrational attitude towards our twice elected Governor.
That might be it.
“Get seriously ill, Max..and you’ll see what I mean.
” — Mary Caruso
Max is seriously ill.
Mary – I think one of the places where we have failed in health care is that we do not demand more responsibility on the part of the patient. Ever since my valve job I have recognized that it is I who has to take charge. I have a GREAT doctor-nurse team; they do a great job. But they cannot be held responsible for my own decisions to not do what I should do.
I would not want such pharmacy testing to replace my DR’s role; rather to supplement it. Pharmacists get a lot of specialized training – they are much more than pill counters. Let us recognize that fact.
And besides – Dillons has better hours!
What is wrong with utilizing the KSA’s and letting the Majority Decide? The KSA’s offer a way to remove her and place a new or replacement Governor. This is an allowed way. It still takes a Majority Vote/Petition. I am not comfortable in being screwed for 3 1/2 more years until I would get the chance to be on a ballet. A Petition is legal and it is within kansas Law. Herbert West III, And, Mary, what scares you? That someone actually cares about others and not only for themselves or what??
I can see where this conversation is not being utilized for open conversations. I can show where the Governor is a crook and others get defensful as if they too will be exposed of Personal Agenda. I choose to stop responding. I hope and pray that her cohorts call upon you and the last thought you have is, “Herb might have been right and should have listened”. I am not vain, it is just that the wrtong person has not been messed over yet. I choose to watch my back, and I will tell others, you all chose to tell me to keep my mouth shut as she approaches her prey. I will send them your regards appropriately. Herbert West III, west.herb@yahoo.com
I agree, Ben. Too many Americans get really overweight, eat too much of the wrong things, drink, smoke, they don’t get enough exercise, and rather than making an effort to change their lifestyle, they want a pill to fix it all.
I guess it’s job security for me…
But there are so many ways to bring down the cost of healthcare..making it more affordable for the average person. We don’t have to sacrifice quality…just use more common sense in the delivery and the access so that it’s fair for everyone.
Heston whines “But during a speech, when I drew an analogy between singling out innocent Jews and singling out innocent gun owners, I was called an anti-Semite.”
Because no one has been persecuted like gun-owners, right, Charles?
Who can forget those horrific scenes of walking skeletons behind electrified barbed wire, the cattle cars full of women and children, sent to gas chambers and why?
Simply because the believed in the Second Amendment.
Oh, please.
The victimology of the right wing is truly demeaning to real victims . . .
Herb – then get your petitions and get your recall going. DO IT!
Mary – There was a great Hager the Horrible cartoon some time ago. Dr. Zook tells Hager “You drink too much, you smoke to much, you eat too much, you are overweight, you don’t exercise enough … ” The next panel: “Is there a pill you can give me for that?”
I gave the cartoon to my DR – his nurse has it posted. She and I get along real well – my parents were DR and Nurse so I can easily see their perspective too.
Herbert–
Thank you for vociferously standing up as proud CONservative.
It’s great to have idiots like you representing the opposition.
We Libs thank and salute you.
Keep it up, good man!
I guess Max’s “Flame” must have burnt out for today… Or else, his/her keepers called him back in… Or else, he couldnt admit he was just flaming wrong??? Nawwww… never happen!!!
:-D
Who — or WHAT — is a Herbert West, III… And what has the Governor of Kansas done to him/it???
Pedant,
Are you still around? I have waiting to catch you so I could ask if you could repost that great narrative about Mr. Cave. I am hopelessly lost in the “search” feature, or maybe I’m not remembering the name correctly. It was about all the subjects McCain has taken first one then an opposite position on. I’m just sure it was your post and it was so good! I should have copied it the first time, if you repost I will this time.
Is this the energy solution we’ve all been looking for? And is this guy the future richest man in the world?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImGaraPrEo8
CHAS, Herbert West II is my name. She, sabatoged my State Pention and my Disability. She steals FEDERAL and State funds. Herbert West III. P.S. Do a yahoo search engine on mt name, I am at youtube, CNN, wen2k.com etc:..Herb West III west.herb@yahoo.com
http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSN0643751320080406?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0&sp=true
U.S. retailers cut jobs as shoppers stop shopping
Sun Apr 6, 2008 12:47pm EDT
By Brad Dorfman – Analysis
CHICAGO (Reuters) – From Ann Taylor to Sears to Wilsons The Leather Experts, it seems the only thing retailers are moving out the doors these days is jobs.
Since the beginning of 2008, retailers — beset by an environment where scared consumers have slashed spending on apparel and discretionary items — have eliminated 75,000 jobs, according to Labor Department data released on Friday. That accounts for almost one-third of the non-farm payroll jobs lost this year.
What’s worse for the U.S. economy is the cuts are likely not just a reaction to weak sales, but also a sign that retailers do not expect improvement any time soon, analysts said.
“As they come through the last two or three quarters, they are beginning to realize there isn’t an end in sight,” said Wendy Liebmann, chief executive at consulting firm WSL Strategies. Retailers are anticipating “the next shoe, or the other shoe or the other shoe, to drop going forward.”
*****
Even the United States of America can’t continue to be led by Worst. President. Ever. without consequences . . .
Herb — how many years did you work for the State of Kansas???
Wow, Herb.
Talk to Regular.
He seems to know how to milk gov’t money for disabilities and pensions etc.
BTW, aren’t you CONs always talking about getting gov’t off our backs and taking personal responsibility?
Karma is a beyotch, ain’t she?
More from the Reuters article:
“What we’re seeing today is a consumer who is buying virtually nothing, unless it’s a need item,” said Britt Beemer, chairman of America’s Research Group. “If it’s a want item, they aren’t buying it.”
Many retailers have responded by cutting costs, including jobs. Among those announced this year: Macy’s Inc (M.N: Quote, Profile, Research) plans 2,300 job cuts, Wilsons The Leather Experts (WLSN.O: Quote, Profile, Research) said it would cut 938 jobs, AnnTaylor Stores Corp (ANN.N: Quote, Profile, Research) said it would cut 13 percent of its headquarters staff and Sears Holdings Corp (SHLD.O: Quote, Profile, Research) said it was cutting 200 support staff.
Tax refund checks typically spur purchases of big-ticket items, but the money may be used to pay down debt or buy necessities this year, he said.
“You’re just seeing consumers realize that they don’t have any extra money,” Beemer said. “The consumer, at this time, has no choice in where to spend their money.”
One-off tax rebates meant to stimulate the economy also might be spent on essentials, too.
18 months.
My KPERS was sabatoged and the rules were not followed. This is not fair. Herb West III west.herb@yahoo.com
Herb, you might not have qualified to receive any State Pension… That is less than TWO years… Are you 62+??
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Posted April 6, 2008 at 4:47 pm | Permalink
Wow, Herb.
Talk to Regular.
He seems to know how to milk gov’t money for disabilities and pensions etc.
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Sure, just get an irreversible spine injury and your set.
Thanks for the compassion Capn!
Well Herbster, I imagine that Kathy stole your pension so that she could finance her drug addiction.
/sarcasm/
“Sure, just get an irreversible spine injury and your set.”
I thought is was an irreversible brain injury.
My bad.
Actually, w.s., Kathy stole Herb’s pension to finance my drug addiction — it’s the liberal way.
Under the category of “No shit! She makes stuff up?”
“Also Saturday, Clinton campaign officials acknowledged that an anecdote Clinton has made a staple of her stump speech in recent weeks may not have been true and wasn’t thoroughly checked for accuracy before she began repeating it on the campaign trail.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23972397/
You only get KPERS after you’ve been in the system for 10 years.
KPERS may have changed it 8 years IIRC.
After 18 months, all you’d get is the money you paid in back.
Herb–
Call 867-5309
Ask for Jenny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqUPApCUt90
This is funny, unless you are a Hillary supporter….
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/NanceGreggs/370
“(5) Moving of goalposts from pledged delegates voting as-per-constituents to voting as-per-desire-of-losing-candidate”
“Thank you for your anticipated cooperation in this regard……. Acme Goalpost Movers Inc.”
After Obama wins PA on the 22nd, Hillary will go where all witches go . . . below, below, BE – LOW . . .
“Is this the energy solution we’ve all been looking for? And is this guy the future richest man in the world?” — outlander
Note he says he splits the molecule with water; no way you can get more out than you put in. Still, using windchargers to split water might be one method of storing excess power.
with electricity. oopsie
God damn, this makes me feel SOOOOOOOOOOOO much better……
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23985124/
“Report: Iraq risks ‘massive chaos’ if U.S. leaves
Assessment says security better since ’surge’ but credits Sunni militias”
“The U.S. is no closer to being able to leave Iraq than it was a year ago,” said the report”
“Lasting political development could take five to ten years of full, unconditional U.S. commitment to Iraq.”
Great, you’re doing a hell of a job, Bushie…..
Interesting post, WSClark.
When Obama gets all the Bush idiots the hell out of there, who knows, maybe the place can actually be stabilized?
Some of you Obama supporters seem to have some difficulty with enemy identification.
Kinda like Barack does?
Please remember not to treat Senator Clinton as the enemy. And this Clinton supporter will afford Barack the same courtesy.
Thanks.
“And this Clinton supporter will afford Barack the same courtesy.”
“Given the opportunity, I will not vote for Obama.”
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm………………………….
Charlton Heston………….
“Were it not for your active involvement,” Florida Gov. Jeb Bush told him, “it’s safe to say my brother may not have been president of the United States.”
Well, now we know who is to blame.
Thanks, Chuck………………………..
Expressing my personal misgivings as to Senator Obama is different from Obama supporters using right wing smear to attack Senator Clinton.
And by my early count, it is 3 Obama supporter assaults on Senator Clinton to my ONE misgiving as to Obama.
We can go 4 to 2.
Or not.
As soon as Obama lies, J R, feel free to point that out.
I’d like to hear about it . . .
“Expressing my personal misgivings as to Senator Obama is different from Obama supporters using right wing smear to attack Senator Clinton.”
Do you mean smear tactics like “sniper fire in Bosnia” and fake stories about a woman that died?
Like that?
Whoa . . . Mark Penn, Clinton’s campaign dude, is stepping down.
That can’t be good for the Hillary campaign.
As you SHOULD be well aware, the story Senator Clinton had told was relayed to her by a law enforcement official.
And Capn if you wanna join in you know I can give just as good as I get.
“told was relayed to her by a law enforcement official.”
She had an obligation to have it checked out before she used it in SEVERAL speeches.
Cops NEVER lie?
Neither do politicians.
Politicians just never do it as often…….
Right?
/sarcasm/
I am content to let the process play out.
NEITHER candidate can win on pledge delegates.
Therefore the nomination IS going to the convention.
But…
If you want a mud fight now?
I brought plenty.
J R posted April 6, 2008 at 7:21 pm
“Expressing my personal misgivings as to Senator Obama is different from Obama supporters using right wing smear to attack Senator Clinton.”
What about the Clinton’s “right wing smear” tactic of claiming Senator Obama’s saying “ideas”, WITHOUT a modifier, meant “good ideas” and “better ideas”?
But I guess it’s okay if the Clinton’s do that…?
That was NOT just Senator Clinton’s take on what Obama said.
When I heard Obama call the Republicans the “party of ideas” I was flabbergasted. What else CAN you conclude from his statement then that he was CLEARLY complimenting Republicans?
J R I live on plays on words… When I heard Obama say that Republicans are a “party of ideas” my first thought was: Yea, BAD ideas… my second thought was: Yep… Ideas, and no action…. my third thought was: Ideas? Yea, Reagan, And Bush, and Ashcroft, and Cheney… Ideas!!
Mary,
The TRUTH is that the NRA had it’s annual meeting in Columbine which has been planned well in advance of that shooting there.
The NRA canceled most of it’s week long meetings and only kept the one day which was required to meet their meeting requirements.
The NRA didn’t go there in spite of Columbine or to rub it in anyones faces. They went there because it was scheduled and to cancel the meeting would have been extremely costly.
Get your facts straight. Then again, you never do in these conversations about guns.
I think I also included AG Gonzo in that list of “ideas” not to mention Judge BORK, and a host of others!!
And ideas: “Stay the Course” “Mission Accomplished” Ideas?? Yep, thats Republicans for ya!!
I am not sure if someone caught this one already, but it looks like Hilary is out there misspeaking again…
Ohio Hospital Contests a Story Clinton Tells
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/05/us/politics/05woman.html?_r=1&ei=5090&en=7824b4f8ea3b363d&ex=1365134400&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin
“We reviewed the medical and patient account records of this patient,” said Mr. Castrop, the health system’s chief executive. Any implication that the system was “involved in denying care is definitely not true.”
Looks like she better change that story!! OR, prove the hospital is covering up… LOL
Easier to change the story
I don’t consider Jake Tapper a very credible source, but if this is true, it adds to Sen. Clinton’s “problems”.
‘In Oregon, Clinton Makes False Claim About Her Iraq Record Vs. Obama’s’
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/in-oregon-clint.html
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IMHO, trustworthiness is a very important factor. Polls say the same.
In the 2000 campaign, the Republicans (aka the “party of ideas”) falsely attacked Al Gore with a few misquotes: ‘Love Story’, “invented”(sic) the Internet, Love Canal, farm chores, etc..
Then they nit-picked every tiny error Gore made in his debates, and speeches.
(And MSM mostly ignored the larger # of errors Bush made. Lower expectations, etc.)
Sen. Clinton now has the sniper story, the hospital story, possibly Tapper’s ‘Iraq’ story, and…?
The Republics can easily take those, add a few misquotes, and then nitpick every error she makes before November.
My favorite Al Gore quote is when he was watching a Chicago Bulls game, he said, “That Michael Jackson sure can play!
What a maroon.
Well isn’t this interesting!
We find Obama supporters standing shoulder to shoulder with Nathan on a non story.
“I brought plenty.”
To quote Marlon Brando in the Wild One, “wadda ya got?”
The difference between me and you “WS” is I know who the enemy is.
You hang on to platitudes like “hope” and “change”. And in doing so, you find yourself in bed with Nathan.
As I have said, I am content to let the process play out. That is the way the rules are set up.
I have very serious concerns as to Obama. It is not my job, yet, to address them.
One of my favorite jimmymac quotes is when he wrote a false, completely fictional paragraph, and added it to a copy/paste about the New Orlean levees.
And jimmymac also stole J M Walker’s nic.
But there are also jimmymac’s many, many lies about the Airborne Laser system, climate science, the posters on this blog, etc…
“The difference between me and you “WS” is I know who the enemy is.”
Well, J R, who is the enemy? Your fellow Americans?
And, we would REALLY like to see your “job” play out vis a vi Obama and his supposed issues.
Come on, don’t just bullshit around – back it up.
J R,
Your “enemy” seems to be your inability to parse English, and do unbiased research on the candidates.
Plus making false, unsupported assumptions.
Cosmos, has McCluer EVER justified his false copy/paste/add ploy? We all know that he just made up shit, but how does he rationalize his deceit?
Damn, I want to hear this one!
pretty graphic showing size and distribution of foreclosures circa 12/2007
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2008/04/05/business/20080406_METRICS.html
Also, compare Sen. Clinton’s website, with Sen. Obama’s, on specific issues.
For example, Obama has a very detailed page re “foreign policy”.
But all that I could find at Clinton’s site was re the Iraq situation.
Nathan is my enemy WS.
In your wars with him on this forum, he would seem to be yours as well.
And yet, we find you standing with him here this evening. What’s up with that?
And YES I do know that Obama is getting a pass on VERY troubling facts.
But I am willing, for now, to let the process play out. THIS in light of the unbelievable bias of the media at large to Obama and McCain.
“And yet, we find you standing with him here this evening. What’s up with that?”
Huh? Price and I do not even agree on what time it is – how are we standing together?
It’s simple “WS”.
You brought an irrational attack on Senator Clinton here.
Not long after, Nathan brought that same attack.
Birds of a feather?
I repeat. Despite my reservations with Obama, I am content to let the process play out. For now.
WSClark,
I’m sure that jimmymac will correct me if I’m wrong.
But from his other posts, he seems to believe that his lies here are justified because:
1) jimmymac has a long Kansas family heritage.
2) jimmymac believes that he personally represents Kansas “values”.
3) jimmymac believes that this blog is just a “fantasy” — when he turns off his computer, then “blip”, everything just disappears.
Al Gore reports he has skin cancer from Solar Panels installed in Mansion.
“You brought an irrational attack on Senator Clinton here.”
What was my irrational attack? She failed to verify her story about the dead woman? She failed to verify her “sniper fire” story?
She lied and she and you know it.
How is that irrational?
J R posted April 6, 2008 at 9:27 pm
“You brought an irrational attack on Senator Clinton here.”
Sen. Clinton’s political campaign failed to properly “vet” the story from ONE “law enforcement official”.
J R… do you really want to brag again about Sen. Clinton’s political “savvy”?
So, McCluer, how DO you justify your copy/paste/add deception?
Eh?
Also Regular, Algore has wrecked his Bently because he was “hypnotized” by a wind farm he noticed…I believe he is suing for 5 mil for damages to his ego.
If I were you “WS” and “cosmos”?
I’d be in a hurry to decide the nominee too.
Since YOUR candidate is so unknown.
You guys are attacking the wrong direction.
It is Obama’s own words and the uncertainty attached to him that distances voters. You should not be attacking Senator Clinton or her supporters.
You SHOULD be out in front of Obama’s negatives and trying to make me hear his words spoken by him as something other than how I have interpreted them.
Obama once gave a blood transfusion to an ailing radical Shiite Cleric. While traveling in Sunni garb, Hussein Obama was captured by Hamas supporters and taken to head quarters.
After convincing the Shiites through his articulate words, Obama then volunteered to donate his rare Type B.S.+ blood to cure the ailing Cleric.
Two weeks after receiving Obama’s blood, the Cleric has gone on several speaking engagements raising campaign funds for Obama and promising to help lead Jihad against the evil ones in D.C.
“You SHOULD be out in front of Obama’s negatives and trying to make me hear his words spoken by him as something other than how I have interpreted them.”
You are one vote, J R, and you have already said that you will not vote for Obama.
End of story, nothing more to say.
You’ll need a link for that claim “regular”.
Reposted…………
So, McCluer, how DO you justify your copy/paste/add deception?
Got an answer, McCoward, or are you just going to pretend that you are an innocent?
Asshole.
sure than J R,
http://www.hillaryclinton.com
J R, I disagree with 95% of WSClark’s post, however he has got you, you have nothing. Backing Clinton must be like rolling thru a cockabur (sp?) field naked and saying “it feels great!”
And so “WS” you, like your candidate, are prepared to sell out the base to stand and deliver to your enemies.
“And so “WS” you, like your candidate, are prepared to sell out the base to stand and deliver to your enemies.”
Still waiting, J R, for you to tell me about my irrational attack on Hillary……………
Facts are just that, facts.
She failed to verify her story about a dead woman. She lied about “sniper fire.”
Where is the irrationality?
Do you see what happens “WS” and “cosmos”?
The right sees division. And they seek to exploit that.
I am not a party to it. You are.
First, we dont’ know the whole story about the Hospital yet. So lets wait till we call her a liar. We know hospitals like to lie too, especially if it shows their incompetence.
Where is my right wing ally here “WS”?
It seems YOU have many.
By the way, where are the antis on this story>? Remember they claim women die from abortions but NEVER pregnancy.
Snopes.com
“It notes that “Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim,” and that “since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when you are seeking political office in the United States, Obama joined the United Church of Christ to help purge any notion that he is still a Muslim.”
McCluer. Are you going to respond to a direct question about your copy/paste/add or are you just a yellow bellied coward that can’t back up what he writes?
If you can’t explain your deception, you must be even more of a liar, two bit jackass, than I thought.
Damn, you called me out and then refused to show up – now you can’t even explain why you added a phony paragraph to a copy and paste post.
Why are you such a coward, McCluer?
“Dont forget the women’s games. I believe it was the immortal Bruin John Wooden who noted that the purest basketball being played today is in the women’s game. I think that was about 5 years ago or so when he said that, and the women’s games just keep getting better.
“No running up and down the court and dunking. They actually PLAY basketball.”
Actually, Candace Parker can, when she’s healthy. I was really disappointed for Sylvia Fowles and the rest of the LSU Tigers, especially the seniors. Tennesee thwarts them again.
J R — I am curious — What is that bee in your bonnet when it comes to Obama?? I have been following your various rantings… But I cant figure out your almost fanatical opposition….. Good grief, BOTH Obama AND Hillary are Democrats… The goal is to defeat the Republicans… And to find out the best person to do that…
I am just curious why you got that “as yet unspoken” been in your bonnet??? Cant you tell us???
“I am not a party to it. You are.”
“And so “WS” you, like your candidate, are prepared to sell out the base to stand and deliver to your enemies.”
“You SHOULD be out in front of Obama’s negatives”
“I repeat. Despite my reservations with Obama, I am content to let the process play out. For now.”
“Birds of a feather?”
“WS” the media is giving Obama a pass.
Because I know who the enemy is, I know what they are planning.
It is not my job to do their work.
PLEASE I beg you to do your research. There is so much that is not known generally as to Obama. And while it does not trouble me so much, it is very dangerous to hang as an October surprise.
I am NOT your enemy. Maybe I’m just the guy you are prepared to cut loose to work with folks like Nathan.
“First, we dont’ know the whole story about the Hospital yet.”
Actually we do, it has been investigated and proven that her story is false – either she fell for a story from a police officer or she lied.
Either way, she screwed up.
“I am NOT your enemy. Maybe I’m just the guy you are prepared to cut loose to work with folks like Nathan.”
Yeah, I’ve already told Price that I would not want to be seen in public with him lest someone think that he is my friend.
Yeah, you are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO right, J R.
J R tell us what you are afraid of… I think you have run this cloak and dagger thing far enough…
10 things you should know about John McCain (but probably don’t):
1. John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has “evolved,” yet he’s continued to oppose key civil rights laws.1
2. According to Bloomberg News, McCain is more hawkish than Bush on Iraq, Russia and China. Conservative columnist Pat Buchanan says McCain “will make Cheney look like Gandhi.”2
3. His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban.3
4. McCain opposes a woman’s right to choose. He said, “I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned.”4
5. The Children’s Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children’s health care bill last year, then defended Bush’s veto of the bill.5
6. He’s one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a “second job” and skip their vacations.6
7. Many of McCain’s fellow Republican senators say he’s too reckless to be commander in chief. One Republican senator said: “The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He’s erratic. He’s hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me.”7
8. McCain talks a lot about taking on special interests, but his campaign manager and top advisers are actually lobbyists. The government watchdog group Public Citizen says McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates.8
9. McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls his “spiritual guide,” Rod Parsley, believes America’s founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a “false religion.” McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God’s punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church “the Antichrist” and a “false cult.”9
10. He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year.10
“Snopes.com”
Provide a complete link, McCluer.
Here’s an interesting website: republicanoffenders.com ! You can find a complete list of convicted and indicted republicans for the last 10 years. They even break them down by category, such as perjury, fraud/embezzlement, corruption/bribery, PEDOPHILES(60!), etc. The total list contains 272 names.
J R,
Go do one of your “bone digs”, and prove your false claim that I am in a “hurry to decide the nominee”.
Then post your comments about Sen. Obama’s economy speech.
And then post your link(s) re Sen. Obama personally calling you “irresponsible”.
But J R wont do any of the above…
BTW: J R, you very definitely are a party to the “division”.
Wallace of Fox News interviewing Senator J. Kerry, an Obama supporter.
WALLACE: “Back in 2004, you spoke very differently about John McCain. You considered him as a possible vice presidential running mate.
In May of 2004, you said that McCain was your first choice to be secretary of defense, and that’s at a time when we had already been in Iraq for more than a year, sir.”
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For Kerry aides, McCain would fit bill as running mate
“Naming Republican seen as potent lure to undecided voters”
By Glen Johnson, Globe Staff | April 6, 2004
WASHINGTON — The great parlor game inside the Beltway right now focuses on whom John F. Kerry will pick to be his running mate, and the game rages no more fiercely than inside Kerry’s own campaign headquarters.
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If there is a consensus among Kerry aides about who would be the boldest and most potent pick, it is Senator John S. McCain of Arizona — a Republican.
While Kerry has talked about his search with few people other than his wife, campaign manager, and the head of his search committee, Washington power broker James A. Johnson, many high-level staff members believe — based on Kerry’s past and recent comments — that McCain will get serious consideration.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/04/06/for_kerry_aides_mccain_would_fit_bill_as_running_mate/
“Snopes.com”
Provide a complete link, McCluer.
I have Sources for my McCain post… However, the little Blog thingy says it cant find the right page to post it…
“BTW: J R, you very definitely are a party to the “division”.”
Oh you bet I am.
I want nothing to do with Republicans. MOST of them are just ill informed.
SOME of them are just plain evil.
But as to division among Democrats?
It is you and the supporters of Obama bringing that here.
“Whoa . . . Mark Penn, Clinton’s campaign dude, is stepping down.
That can’t be good for the Hillary campaign.”
Now Capn. You KNOW there is a deeper story to this.
What? You shook Obama’s hand and it took away your ability to think or post objectively?
“It is you and the supporters of Obama bringing that here.”
Hillary agreed that the “delegates” from Michigan and Florida would not count, yet NOW she says that all votes must be counted (despite the fact that Obama wasn’t even on the ballot in MI.)
Her position is completely contrary to the party rules that she AGREED to.
So who is being divisive?
Third post……………
“Snopes.com”
Provide a complete link, McCluer.
Where is the link, McCoward?
Senator Barak Hussein Obama, the not so reformed Muslim
“On February 27th, speaking to Kristof of The New York Times, Barack Hussein Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
In an interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times, Obama recited the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, “with a first-class [Arabic] accent.”
The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the Shahada:
“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet….”
According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim. This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim’s complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam. Obama chanted it with pride and finesse.”
On Feb 15/08, Usama K. Dakdok, President of The Straight Way of Grace Ministry called Obama’s Church and reported the following conversation: ” I then asked the person who answered what I needed to do to join. She told me that I needed to attend two Sunday School classes in a row and then I would walk the aisle. I replied, “That sounds easy. One last question please. If I am Muslim and I believe in the Prophet Mohammed, peace be unto him and I also believe in Jesus, peace be unto him, do I have to give up my Islamic faith to be a member in your church? She answered: “No, we have many Muslim members in our church.”
In Kenya while he was a Senator, Obama stumped for his cousin, opposition leader Raila Odinga, the son of Senior’s sister, a direct first cousin and nephew of Obama’s father.
On August 29, 2007, Raila Odinga and Shiekh Abdullah Abdi, chairman of the National Muslim Leaders Forum of Kenya signed a Memorandum of Understanding in which it pledges the support of Kenyan Moslems for Raila’s election. In return, as President of Kenya, Raila agrees … within 6 months re-write the Constitution of Kenya to recognize Shariah as the only true law sanctioned by the Holy Quran for Muslim declared regions [and] within one year to facilitate the establishment of a Shariah court in every Kenyan divisional headquarters — everywhere in Kenya, not just in “Muslim declared regions” — and to popularize Islam, the only true religion … by ordering every primary school in Kenya in the regions to conduct daily Madrassa classes.”
Amiris, now the manager of Bank Mandiri, Jakarta, recently said, “Barry was previously quite religious in Islam. His birth father, Barack Hussein Obama was a Muslim economist from Kenya. Before marrying Ann Dunham, Hussein Obama was married to a woman from Kenya who had seven children. All the relatives of Barry’s father were very devout Muslims”
Emirsyah Satar, CEO of Garuda Indonesia, was quoted as saying, “He (Obama) was often in the prayer room wearing a ’sarong’, at that time.”
“He was quite religious in Islam but only after marrying Michelle, he changed his religion.”
So Obama, according to his classmates and friends was a Muslim until the confluence of love and ambition caused him to adopt the cloak of Christianity: to marry Michelle and to run for President of the United States,”
Three years later, in 1971, Obama enrolled in the Besuki Primary School, a government school, as Barry Soetoro, Muslim. In third grade, Senator Obama wrote an essay titled ‘I Want To Be a President.’ His third grade teacher: Fermina Katarina Sinaga “asked her class to write an essay titled ‘My dream: What I want to be in the future.’ Senator Obama wrote ‘I want to be a President,’ she said.” [The Los Angeles Times, 3/15/07]
accumulated research from primary sources who knew Obama from his childhood indicate that he was a devout Muslim, the son of a devout Muslim, the step-son of a devout Muslim and the grandson and namesake (”Hussein”) of a devout Muslim. He was registered in school as a Muslim and demonstrated his ability to chant praise to Allah in impressive Arab-accented tones even as an adult. Just as he has not disavowed his “uncle” Jeremiah, neither has he disavowed his Muslim faith that he was born into, raised with, celebrated and never abandoned. He just covered it over with a thin veneer of his own self-styled “Christianity.”
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12745.htm
In his autobiography, “Dreams From My Father,” Obama mentions studying the Koran and describes the public school as “a Muslim school.”
Oh Jesus Christ. Here it is.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
Regular, of course, is selectively quoting from this to paint the most outrageous picture possible, and I am sure he is just doing it in his weird version of fun. I don’t know or care where the nonsense about blood transfusions come from.
He’s trolling Mr. Clark, probably with tongue planted thoroughly in cheek.
The appropriate response when he does this remains…
Re: Regular
DNFTT
Ummmm the evening Muslim call to Prayer is a gorgeous song! I have no idea what the words are, but it is one beautiful chant!!
Which, BTW, is what Obma was talking about!!
I say again…
Re: Regular
DNFTT
Somebody get the water bucket… James is intentionally flaming LIES again!!
WS?
You and Obama are being politically stupid.
Even if a revote in Florida and Michigan went 100% for Senator Clinton, she could not win on pledge delegates.
And she cannot know the outcome of the revote.
She simply knows, as I do, that you cannot dis Florida and Michigan and give the voters there the impression that their votes do not count.
Obama is idiotic in opposing a revote.
It does not hurt him. It helps the party.
In truth, Obama is truly stupid to NOT embrace a revote. It will NOT change the FACT that the nomination is going to the convention. He could gain by embracing a revote. But he can’t see it.
J R WHY are you totally ignoring me??
Want more of “Regular’s” crap?
Rush to nominate Obama.
Obama is an unknown. He is vetted by the fight.
Let it play out.
J R can’t do a “bone dig”, and prove his false claim that I am in a “hurry to decide the nominee”.
J R can’t post his comments about Senator Obama’s economy speech.
J R can’t post any link(s) re Senator Obama personally calling him “irresponsible”.
But… J R can make vague, unsupported attacks against Senator Obama.
Way to go J R… it looks like you are becoming a Republican.
“She simply knows, as I do, that you cannot dis Florida and Michigan and give the voters there the impression that their votes do not count.”
Hillary has called for the delegates to be seated based on the January vote – not based on anything else.
She is a hypocrite for agreeing to the rules then contending that they disenfranchise the voters in Michigan and Florida.
She agreed to the rules BEFORE the fact.
Let’s see — IF either candidate suppports a revote in FL and MI, then they stand in opposition to each State’s Legislatures.. If I were either one of them I dont think I would want that in the Republican talking points in the Fall… would any of you??
Just saying…
(chortles)
As usual, the coward McCluer is full of shit and full of lies.
What else is new?
He has all the credibility of a pregnant bride claiming that she is a virgin.
Of course, McCluer himself is still a virgin – saving himself for “marriage.”
J R I am not attacking you, but I am most curious why you are ignoring everything I ask you here??
The Obama Cover Up shovel is working fast and furious – First Reverend Wright – Now ties to a Real Estate Scandal”
CHICAGO, Illinois (CNN) — “Indicted real estate developer and political fundraiser Tony Rezko, whose links to Sen. Barack Obama have brought his name into the national spotlight, was arrested Monday morning, an FBI spokesman said.
Rezko was taken into custody by the FBI at his Wilmette, Illinois, home just outside Chicago following a government motion to revoke his bond, said FBI spokesman Tom Simon.
Rezko — whom Sen. Hillary Clinton referred to in a debate as having run a “slum landlord business” — has pleaded not guilty to federal charges of conspiracy, influence peddling and demanding kickbacks from companies seeking Illinois state business.
Obama, speaking Sunday to ABC’s “This Week,” described Rezko as “a friend of mine, a supporter, who I’ve known for 20 years.”
Rezko has contributed to the campaigns of numerous Democrats, including Obama — though the Illinois senator has vowed to give up all funds connected to Rezko. Obama said in a debate that as an attorney he did just about five hours of work for a Rezko project.
Shortly after his election to the U.S. Senate, Obama bought a house for $300,000 below the asking price. The same day, Rezko’s wife bought the lot next door for full price. Months later, Obama bought a sliver of the Rezko land to expand his yard.
As a state senator, Obama wrote letters supporting some Rezko deals.”
I’m a known quantity here “cosmos”
How about you?
Sigh….
It’s been my deal to deal with the late night on the blog.
Damn the stuff and people I have dealt with.
I did not mean to ignore you Chas. It is just that I had folks on my back while you seem on the fence.
What can I answer for you?
So, McCluer, how DO you justify your copy/paste/add deception?
“J R”,
You are not a “known quantity” to me.
Chas,
J R does not need to explain his fanatical opposition to Senator Obama.
The reasons are very obvious, in his misinformed rants in the archives.
J R tell us what you are afraid of… I think you have run this cloak and dagger thing far enough…
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Let’s see — IF either candidate suppports a revote in FL and MI, then they stand in opposition to each State’s Legislatures.. If I were either one of them I dont think I would want that in the Republican talking points in the Fall… would any of you??
Sigh….
I have not ranted in some time “cosmos”.
If you search the archive you could find me longer and more stridently written.
But when you do the same issues over and over again, sooner or later the best ya have to say has already been said.
Yada, yada, yada, Obama bad, Hillary good, yada, yada, Obama Republican, yada, yada, Hillary Democrat, yada, yada, Michigan, yada, yada, Florida, yada, yada Obama will work with Republicans, yada, yada, Hillary will not work with Republicans, yada, yada.
And……………………
Chas
The media has given Obama a pass.
You saw it. Before the pastor Wright stuff came out fully, it came out here now and again.
I knew about it but did not add to it.
There is more that is embarrassing for Obama. I HAVE tried to advise his supporters to get out in front of it and I have not brought it here.
And I do not understand why people who are supposed to be my political friends are treating me like the enemy.
J R You keep insinuating something sinister about Obama…. Yet, you dont tell us what that sinister something might be…
Can you please enlighten us??
J R I am not treating you like an enemy… But I am most curious what you think you might know that could be SO embarassing to Obama??
“J R”,
Okay… repost your comments from the archives, about what you thought Senator Obama said about children’s health insurance, and parents not buying it.
And also post a link to Senator Obama’s actual words, providing the full context.
“J R” seems to have very good reasons not to do the two points above.
Damn but I love a fight.
Why do I have to fight people who are supposed to be on my side?
“Know your enemy” That’s a simplistic take from Sun Tzu from “The Art of War”
The whole weight of the media, talk radio etc is on Senator Clinton.
I have my difficulties well archived with Senator Obama. But it is not my task to destroy him. I am content as I have EVER said to let the process play out.
But if he is to be your nominee, and if you want to appeal to me to make him mine, you HAVE to convince me and not attack Senator Clinton.
Cosmos — I know of at least five PR offices that are doing all they know how to do to try to stop all of the intentionally misdirected SMEAR tactics attempting to somehow make Obama a child hood Muslim…
I have been told that all that CAN be done, IS being done… including several impending law suits… It seems that you cannot intentionally spread a FALSE REPORT as FACT, even during an election cycle…
It should be interesting to see how this all works out very soon….
BTW, JR… THEY ARE DOING THE SAME INVESTIGATIONS ON THOSE WHO ARE SMEARING HILLARY’S FACTUAL DATA AS WELL!! I DONT WANT YOU TO BE ALARMED…
J R I dont want to attack Clinton… She has a lot going for her… I just want to know what YOU think you are sitting on that is so damaging to Obama, that you dont want to post it here….
And again…………..
So, McCluer, how DO you justify your copy/paste/add deception?
You stick the fight real well against me “cosmos”.
You should apply the same zeal elsewhere. You should convince me that Obama is not a Republican apologist and sympathizer.
I seriously doubt that Cosmos is a former Republican.
J R — Obama is about as far from being a Republican as you are from being a Facist!!
Now, honestly, HOW are you making any connection with what OBAMA says, to Republican junk politics???
“J R”,
When I have some free time, I will bone dig your rants against Senator Obama here on the WE Blog, and compare them to what Obama actually said.
I suggest that you get “out in front of it”, before I make those posts.
Not that it will help you…
Here is the place where I used to be profound and get told “Good post”!
Well.
Like I said before, when you have done the fight so many times, probably you have already said your best.
And in george bush’s America, I am close to used up.
And what am I here fighting?
The right is out of the fight. They will be out of the fight.
So I am fighting people who are supposed to be on my side. I doubt that their candidate IS on my side. And that is based on his own words.
I keep up the fight but I am tired. It would be easy I guess to knuckle under and try and pretend as to hope and change.
Well that is not what I do.
Bring it cosmos.
Bring it in person.
Name the time and the place.
J R — I dont know how else to say it…
WHY ARE YOU AFRAID OF OBAMA?? WHAT ARE YOU HINTING AROUND AT THAT COULD BE SO BAD??
WHAT HAS HE DONE AS A PUBLIC SERVANT THAT HAS GONE AGAINST THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, AND ITS PRINCIPLES??
OK?? There you have it… Thats what I want to know… Thats all I expect of you!! OK??
“Name the time and the place.”
Cut this crap with your insinuated threats, J R. Enough is enough.
You are no better than McCluer with this shit.
You just might find……………
Well, you have a good night, JR…
I have meetings all day tomorrow….
Good night; Good luck; and God bless;
Whatever you conceive God to be!!
Blessings ALL!!
I was going to bed.
I’d like to meet you “WS” and “cosmos” as well.
We can leave your pal Nathan out.
“J R”,
Are you a little “slow”?
I am not going to “[b]ring it in person”.
I will just post it to this blog, for everyone to read.
Like I said, you should get “out in front of it”, before I make those posts.
Not that it will help you…
And actually, I do not even need to make those posts. It’s pretty obvious to anyone who reads your rants in the archives.
But that’s your problem “J R”… not mine.
Now, go shadow-box with yourself in an back alley, if that makes you feel better.
“cosmo”?
How is it that you have been posting here so long and yet nobody has ever met or knows anything about you?
Well the way I am going to play it is that you could just as easy be another nic of “Regular”.
Obama supporters?
You might want to rein in folks like “cosmo” and “WS”.
The process is going to play out. The nomination is going to the convention.
You like your candidate. By his own words, I do not trust him. If there is to be a party civil war it will be Obama supporters that starts it.
For a start, I’ve no further use or respect for “cosmo” or “WS”.
Oh and since they asked?
Obama has a pal who was once part of the domestic terrorist group “Weather Underground”.
The media is ignoring this. It may be that it should be more looked into. Before it gets dropped on his head in October should he be the nominee?
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11. McCains’ been a Senator from Arizona for 25 years — and he acts like the immigration problem just happened last week — asleep at the switch.
12. The scandal that forced him to withdraw from the GOP presidential field in 2000 — is it now less important ? Why?
13. He’s never met a lobbyist he didn’t like.
J R,
It’s informative that you attack me, instead of defending your false statements about Senator Obama — like parents today are “irresponsible”, etc.
And I don’t see any of your friends here helping you.
“Obama has a pal who was once part of the domestic terrorist group “Weather Underground”.
The media is ignoring this. It may be that it should be more looked into. Before it gets dropped on his head in October should he be the nominee?”
Oh for God’s sake, JR…you’re starting to sound as paranoid as Herb West.
I’m sure if you looked into it, every candidate has been friends with people they later regretted even knowing.
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