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Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no Saviour.

What? No National Poli thread yet this a.m.? I’m disappointed.

So I’ll just bring this here.

Yesterday, KFG said (referring to Obama):
We have no idea what he means, but vote for him anyway because his campaign slogan says change.

We have no idea what ANY of the candidates mean. The MSM wants to microfocus on the personal stuff, and the candidates are following right along, when what they should be doing is discussing and talking about the issues. McCain is free to ride his Straight Talk Express, giving us his form of b.s. and blabber all he wants, but let Obama and Hillary begin to focus on the issues, and we get Rev. Wright and sniper fire.

Typical Republican tricks we’ve watch for the past two elections and more, yet no one demands it change. That includes those here on WEBlog. It’s way more fun to repeat ad naseum the same garbage day after day. No one…NO ONE…is going to talk about what they propose to do, until they stop being forced to defend every STUPID thing that has little bearing on what they will (try) to do for US.

The problem is that there are so many stupid Americans who buy into all the bulls**t and don’t really focus at all on what needs to happen to tackle the mess we’re in. It’s a distraction, kinda like watching Jerry Springer instead of the national news because they don’t have to think about the real problems and it’s a sick form of entertainment.

Yeah, right…whatever, Reg.

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bth
Posted April 29, 2008 at 9:54 am | Permalink

Regulaar – it would seem that a strict reading of that passage would negate the existence of Christ as savior.
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True, if that were the only verse in the Bible.

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No one knows who or what “god” is…it’s just all us humans trying to figure out what life is all about and everyone and every culture has their own version. No one has the true answer, they just think they do.

And maybe the Jews, too.

Instead of trying to find out what life is all about, try living it instead. What difference does it make where we came from? We’re here. Make the best of it. Carpe diem!

Just think what the world would be like with no religion…how would we justify our hatred and intolerance of those who are different than us?

Amen, Pre!

Gotta go..work calls
ENJOY LIFE…It’s too short!!!!!!

Religious populations are all too often intolerant and mean gangs. Who tell everyone they are doing their deeds in the name of their god. And thus it has been for all of history.

The World’s Dumbest President ( unfortunately ours) is on NPR explaining the world and our economy. That can’t bode well for Wall Street today! It is truly an embarrassment to listen to that clown.

Heckler posted this link yesterday, but here’s the first part y’all gotta see!

http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0508/0508freedomjefferson.htm

The natural inequality of individual freedom (Lessons from Jefferson)

By J.B. Williams
web posted April 28, 2008

America is politically divided down the center line between individual freedom and a so-called greater common good. Half of the country is trying desperately to protect and preserve a maximum level of individual freedom and liberty for themselves and future generations, while the other half is desperate to take from those according to their means in order to fill the perceived needs that they have failed to fill on their own.

Many American voters are struggling to escape the reality that freedom isn’t free and never was. They try to hide from the fact that freedom to excel bears with it the freedom to fail, and run from the truth that although freedom is quite “fair,” – equal freedom will never result in equal outcomes.

“I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.” – Thomas Jefferson

Half of the nation still believes what the founding fathers believed, that the risk of individual failure while in pursuit of personal excellence, is a small price to pay for the right of self-determination, absolute individual freedom and liberty.

But over the last century, the other half have been trained to accept personal failure as a predisposed condition beyond their individual control, which can only be remedied by an increasingly intrusive central power equipped with the authority and means to strip one of his lawful earnings for the alleged benefit of another.

“A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned – this is the sum of good government.” – Thomas Jefferson

>I don’t think I’m hateful…just realistic. It seems to me nowadays the Christians and the Islamics have the corner on hate.<

Mary… pretty ridiculous comment. There are hateful people everywhere… some are Christians or Islamic, but many are not. MOST Christians are not.

“stop being forced to defend every STUPID thing”

The candidates are not having their arms twisted. Maybe if they showed true leadership – and focused on the specific issues, the distractions would be less glaring.

But this is nothing new. The press focuses on the personal character issues, because it is vague and requires little if any research or intelligence to pursue.

Please remember the number of women who voted for Bill Clinton just because of his looks.

American’s are shallow people for the most part, when it comes to politicians. And is it any wonder? Politicans stack up somewhere around whale shi- in popularity. Somewhere below lawyers (no offense to any of them).

AmWay, Clinton and Obama have no real issues to talk about.

All they have left are the personal lack of character credentials of each other. Much to talk about there for sure.

>Then I guess we hear the most from those who ARE.<

The media loves to report anything negative. And it seems those who are the most negative are also the most vocal.

Sam – I agree – the vast majority of Christians are anything BUT hateful.

A heads-up for you: River cleanup is this Saturday. If you can put the word out to make sure bedrolls etc are ’stashed’ that should help prevent anything happening to them. At laest the groups I am involved in are careful NOT to remove anything that is not trash.

Now for a suggestion: do you think you could get a group to clean under the Harry Bridge? If so I can get trash bags for you and arrange their pickup.

I love the tolerance of all the bloggers. Thank you for letting me keep my personal beliefs. I find joy each morning when I see the sunshine and thank my good Lord for the beauty of the creation. My personal belief. I don’t hate anyone.

Now – on the political side however I am puzzled at the rhetoric coming from the left on Obama. His long time minister inserted himself squarely in the middle of his campaign. He is an issue because of this. When/if Hagee does this he too will be relevant.

That said I want to know how Obama and Hillary plan to kick start a slowing economy. I want to know what new taxes they plan to implement. I want to know how they plan to protect our nation from those who desire to erradicate the great USofA. Lets talk issues.

Change – well I changed the clothes I wore yesterday for the ones I am wearing today. It was change but was it an improvement? Change in itself isn’t a plan. The devil is in the details.

Lets get back to the real campaigns.

hmmm … the City is supporting a morning cleanup. Not sure when they will be running the trash pickup. The main thrust is 10-12; I will be at L-D about 9-9:30 to pick up bags etc.

One thing I like about morning is it is cooler – I tend to wilt in the heat.

Just a public service announcement note for those waiting for their FREE MONEY from the gubermint.

“member calls asking if we have received their Government Stimulus Check. To improve member service and reduce calls, Electronic Services has provided us with a Payment Schedule produced by the Internal Revenue Service.”

Details:

Stimulus Payment Schedule:

Last 2 SSN Digits

Direct Deposit Payment Initiated Date – 2-4 Business Days to Post

00 – 20

April 28

21 – 75

May 9

76 – 99

May 16

Last 2 SSN Digits

Paper Checks

00 -09

May 9

10 – 18

May 23

19 – 25

May 30

26 – 38

June 6

39 – 51

June 13

52 – 63

June 20

64 – 75

June 27

76 – 87

July 4

88 – 99

July 11

Source: Internal Revenue Service”

Those who regularly receive FREE MONEY already know the drill.

OK Ben… I’ll see what I can do, that may be late enough in the morning to work. Maybe I can wake a teenager or two as well! I’ll tell the guys.. but with no transportation… who knows who will show up..

Thanks KS-Sam

BlueJay – just head to the WATER Center. I’ll be bringing stuff down.

In fact – an open invite to everyone: join in the river cleanup this saturday morning. 10 AM on the River.

“Obama and Clinton have said they would do away with the Bush tax cuts on the richest of Americans.”

One said those making over 200K annually.
The other said those making over 250K annually.

“about the AMT – which we need for revenue”
That’s StevenDavis spin on things. WHY do we need that particular item for revenue? Why not end/reduce the EIC payments. That would bring in revenue too. The AMT hits millions of us. It is nasty in it’s bite. It is unfair, in that it takes new victims each year by surprise, and you cannot plan to avoid it. It also is no longer performing it’s original purpose for which the AMT law was enacted – keep rich from paying little or no tax. It is now a middle income to upper middle income tax. Hardly a rich tax. Again, keeping the painful and BIG surprise bite the AMT causes is your personal opinion. But it is as valuable as my opinion of ending the Unearned Income Credit as a means toward increasing revenue.

“Clinton has said recently that big oil needs to pay their fair share”

What’s “fair”? And consumers will pick up whatever that amount is. You think they will “eat” the increases in taxes and decreases to their bottom line? And who is BIG OIL, heh? Millions of Americans own equity, mutual funds, or other investments in BIG OIL. Additionally, Hillary said she would use that money to fund a number of projects to include: new entitlements and reduce greenhouse gases – so NO increase to revenue here.

“we continue the “borrow and spend” strategy another 4 years, it is difficult to even imagine what things will look like.”

Of course you have suggested increasing revenue. But is there nothing you would cut? Defense?

The solution to our financial crises is not simply to create more revenue, unless you live in a land of make believe. We have to cut spending. If you took every dollar the rich man makes: There isn’t enough to resolve the debt issue nor to fund the new entitlement programs you NEGLECTED to mention in your financial comparison post.

Bush is such a Tool!
From his political speech today, “– Immediately violated his own pledge not to get involved in the presidential contest by asserting that McCain would be the victor. He was asked if he was concerned that his successor would not put enough emphasis on continuing the war on terrorism. “I don’t think John McCain is going to neglect the war on terror. And I do think he’s going to be president.”

Was his pledge not to get in the republican candidate debate?

It would be silly to think a president would not openly endorse his parties candidate in the final election.

Amway, Clinton and Obama have no real issues to talk about

Max I will say that none of them are really talking about the issues. If all three were passengers of the Titanic it would be going something like this,
Mc Cain: “Well we should just set in the deck chairs and wait and see just how far the ship sinks!”
Hillary: “The government should pay for the damage to the ship, pay for the damage to the ice berg, pay for the damage to the ego of the ship’s captain for running his ship into the ice berg, pay for the damage to the emotional state of the passengers as they die!”.
Obama: “It will be cheaper if the government pays for part of the damage to the ship, part of the damage to the ice berg, part of the damage to the Captain’s ego, part of the damage to the emotional state of the passengers“.

Some choices huh?

And Hillary’s comment on taxing BIG OIL is an election year ploy. It sounds great because people are mad at the OIL COMPANIES and they are an easy target. But BIG OIL is not the solution to the mess we are in. Some are too stupid to realize this.

Just read Hillary’s web site looking for details on her tax increase plan. She keeps crowing, “Just go to my web site, you’ll see my plan there. Just go to my web site…”

Nuthin.

No details.

No wonder Clinton doesn’t discuss ISSUES!

Going to wash myself now and get Hillary’s webiste slime off of me.

Max other then totally taking over oil, what can Congress do? I hate to admit it but add one more time I have to agree with Bush. Doing away with the fuel tax for a few months is pointless and political grandstanding. Just what can either the Republicans or Democrats do about oil?

Ben, I have a question for you. There is a proposal before the city to eliminate grass clippings. What is your opinion of continuing to be able to dispose of clippings as long as they are not bagged? It seems to be that clippings alone would be helpful in breaking down other refuse. Am I wrong?

WW – you do make a point in that if we actually had decent biology going on in a landfill grass clippings might help make stuff rot. However that is not the case. Since we dump so much non-biodegradeble stuff and also toxins they don’t really help.

Then we run into capacity problems. Why should I be charged the same fee as the guy who dumps 10 times as much?

What I would like to see is some sort of separate pickup of ‘organic’ material for composting. It might be useful to mix with sewage sludge for land reclamation.

Max – many of us scientists had already cut down gasoline consumption prior to the price runup.

OH MY GOSH!

ReguLiar has been discovered:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/78337

“That’s StevenDavis spin on things. WHY do we need that particular item for revenue?”

Duh, AmWay, we have a 9 Trillion (with a T) dollar debt. Unlike you, I am unwilling to mortage the souls of my grandchildren to the Chinese. I’ll let you do that, but no thank you, I do not want to do that.

The AMT was cooked up in the late 60’s, or early 70’s so that people had less of a chance to find tax loop holes. Back in the day, $250K/year, was some real money. In the late 60’s that amount was the same as $1 Million a year today.

If you have to pay that amount, I don’t blame you for pissing and moaning about it. But, even today, people making that amount have it relatively comfortable. Move to some other country if you can’t take that burden – there may be better deals out there, I don’t know.

Max – I agree with everything you list except the drilling to continue to feed the addiction and also the coal issue due to my science background.

“Amway, Clinton and Obama have no real issues to talk about”

What I would like to see is a spreadsheet with the candidates positions on the issues for side-by-side comparison.

Not just the small ones we see in the newspaper from time to time.

But a excel type document which lists each appropriation budget (i.e. defense, Homeland Security, Dept of Agri.. etc..and include revenue projects) and under those headings each candidates position or the change they would make. The final column would contain the COST. This would be expressed as an amount with a credit indicator (+ or -). The bottom line in the amount column would be the net change from the current year budget position.

I think all the issues boil down to money. So why not express their position on each item, and the overall impact on the budget resources and deficit?

LOL what actually brought me to open thread this morning. Since past believes and actions seem more important then actual issues. For those needing more damning guilty by association, The Church of Christ!
For some time and I have been assured that it no longer follows the believe. BUT they did believe that ONLY those whom are members of the Church of Christ denomination. Would be the only one to go to Heaven! Sad news for all of us whom are Baptist, Jewish, Moslem, Catholic, you name it and we are damn to Hell. Wright’s Church and by association Obama are Church of Christ.

I often wonder, and maybe fear, that the truly well qualified and needed people of either party refuse to have their names associated with the stench of today’s politics. Todays crop are sadly lacking.

gster,

Why would the truly qualified put themselves thru the abuse of the papparazzi press today? The best and brightest are doing very well for themselves.

Why should The People who take little responsibility for themselves, expect someone else to take on that burden?

AmWay, if all the working people left, Steven and his kind would actually have to take on responsibility for themselves – for the first time.

The Libs don’t really want to encourage the successful working people to leave the country. Though it is tempting. I know where there’s some beautiful cheap land in Canada, Panama, and Eastern Europe.

I never could understand these personal liberty types complaining about the sin taxes when you can grow it or make it yourself. Save money better quality, sense of accomplishment.

http://www.beer-brewing.com/

http://tobaccotalk.itgo.com/

Yeah Monkeyman, you want to encourage conservation – as long as somebody ELSE pays for it!

Ben,

The Trinity “concept” coincided with their being only one God. It’s doesn’t go against it.

If you actually grasped the concept then there is no contradiction in Christ being the Savior with the verse given by regular to start this thread.

Nathan – I understand that. I was simply noting that there are those who are at least as qualified as you who disagree with your position on the Trinity. Remember, I also grew up with the Trinity concept.

Predestined
Posted April 29, 2008 at 1:01 pm | Permalink
AmWay,

Why do the filthy rich need more?

Read slowly: BECAUSE IT IS NOT YOUR MONEY!!!!
WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO TELL PEOPLE HOW MUCH THEY ARE ENTITLED TO AND TO CALL THEM “FILTHY” FOR MAKING IT!?!?!

” also think Jesus would disagree wtih you.”

JESUS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. IN FACT, HE COULDN’T GIVE A RAT’S ASS ABOUT THIS. THAT AIN’T WHAT HE IS ABOUT….Besides, I tithe my 10%. THE BIG GUY NEVER ASKED ME FOR MORE!

WTF??????????

Disneyland-Style Theme Park Set for Baghdad. Honest to God

[Llewellyn] Werner, chairman of C3, a Los Angeles-based holding company for private equity firms, is pouring millions of dollars into developing the Baghdad Zoo and Entertainment Experience, a massive American-style amusement park that will feature a skateboard park, rides, a concert theatre and a museum. It is being designed by the firm that developed Disneyland. “The people need this kind of positive influence. It’s going to have a huge psychological impact,” Mr Werner said.
The 50-acre (20 hectare) swath of land sits adjacent to the Green Zone and encompasses Baghdad’s existing zoo, which was looted, left without power and abandoned after the American-led invasion in 2003…

Mr Werner, who has been sold a 50-year lease on the site by the Mayor of Baghdad for an undisclosed sum, says that the time is ripe for the amusement park. “I think people will embrace it. They’ll see it as an opportunity for their children regardless if they’re Shia or Sunni. They’ll say their kids deserve a place to play and they’ll leave it alone.”

The project will cost $500 million (£250 million) and will be managed by Iraqis. Under the terms of the lease, Mr Werner will retain exclusive rights to housing and hotel developments, which he says will be both culturally sensitive and enormously profitable. “I wouldn’t be doing this if I wasn’t making money,” he said. “I also have this wonderful sense that we’re doing the right thing – we’re going to employ thousands of Iraqis. But mostly everything here is for profit.”
A $1 million skateboard park, the first phase of the development, will open in July.

Ben, Understood. We really NEED a recycling program to reduce the waste going into the landfill. We now take our recyclables to the bins at Leekers. I also agree about the usage fees. Many times I have only one or two bags of trash in the dumpster, and my b/f argues why even take it to the street? I don’t have much to throw away in the winter, however not being able to get rid of some yard waste is going to be a burden for me. I have 35 trees and one acre. I burn most of the tree limbs in the fireplace and already have a huge compost pile even though I use it in the garden. I have more yard waste than I can use, so I hate to see not having some sort of outlet.
What’s depressing is the poll the WE has where 37% say they’ll dump wherever they can find a spot.

Upon review, I see I have let the HAVE NOT’s demanding more of other peoples money get to me.

I let the beggars with a hand stretched out full of nothing and a mouth full of “gimmee” affect my self discipline and control.

In short I let you make me mad. Sorry for the caps.

Going to chill out.

Best place for this I guess.

Obama has done about the only thing he could do.

He has announced that he is shocked and hurt and feels betrayed and used by his pastor. Well he’s got a right to be. I’m not for Obama but I felt bad he was the victim of his egomaniac and probably racist pastor.

Randy Schofield Obama damage control thread in

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Blue Jay,
I am using a mulch blade now but the leaves of 35 trees is a bit too much mulch for the yard. Too much will kill the little grass I have convinced to grow. And in some places I just let the leaves stay.

“Compare to those on the lower end of the tax bracket. Sometimes through no fault of their own, the opposite is true of them.”

What if it IS their fault they are in the lower end of the tax backet, do they still get handouts? And who decides whether it is their fault or not?

Maybe it’s not the rich man’s fault that he is rich either! Maybe it’s not the rich man’s fault that there are poor people, so is it still OK to punish the rich man to reward the poor?

(Ah, but the Libs have to have someone to blame, other then themselves!)

I get really confused by these Socialists who want to steal money from one group of people and give to another group of people. How do they decide how much to steal from who? And how do they decide how much to give to whoever?

And who is “they”? The elitist ones in Government are so smart. I wonder why we still have poverty 50 years after LBJ launched the war on poverty.

We mulch everything also but it will be a problem in our neighborhood because we see several people who bag grass clippings every week. We see some that dump them in the street and let them wash down the storm sewers.

We had a neighborhood meeting last night to address the problem of grass clippings. We are going to try to have a central dumping point with an approved container for compost. There are more things to worry about than I realized such as being combustable.

Anyone with any good ideas we would welcome.

” How dare us Liberals think we can help people in need”

Be my guest. Why do you have to steal to do it? If liberals are so looking out for the little guy or down on his luck guy, why don’t y’all finace them out of your own pocket? Why do you have to steal from someone else’s pocket to get your warm fuzzy?

Grass Clippings

* Mow regularly

* 1/3 rule – If grass is three inches long, mow off the top 1/3

* For taller grass that leaves clippings, rake up and spread across yard right before next mowing, so it can be mulched in with other clippings

Oops, sorry walker. I misread. That was for Max.

and …

In the summer, when it is so blazing hot, it is SO much easier to just mow it down and not have to deal with the bags and all that. The returned clippings help the lawn survive the heat/dry of summer.

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Posted April 29, 2008 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

” How dare us Liberals think we can help people in need”

Be my guest. Why do you have to steal to do it? If liberals are so looking out for the little guy or down on his luck guy, why don’t y’all finace them out of your own pocket? Why do you have to steal from someone else’s pocket to get your warm fuzzy?
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But we do, sol. It’s called charity. Obviously you haven’t heard of it. And when charity falls short, as it sometimes does, as in Katrina, then the government is called upon to help. I won’t ask you to understand, as the box you Neocons live in is fully insulated from the real world, but sometimes public funds are needed for something other than floating big business, and waging a war in some tin-pot country (Iraq) in the name of terrorism. How many billions spent on killing people? How many billions NOT spent on saving them.

Hey J M Walker, how many of those first church of atheism organized and went down to New Orleans to help?

We all know that those Atheists just line up at home less shelters to pitch in right?

Ask Kansas Sam about that. You know all those do-gooder Progressive, constantly whining Liberals pitch in and help him out with the homeless.

Maybe a Liberal Hollywood actor or two? You know who will whine about charity, then spend two million dollars on a wedding or build their lavish underground boogie studio which they invite their drug taking friends.

:)

“Hey J M Walker, how many of those first church of atheism organized and went down to New Orleans to help?”

Atheism is the only thing rebuilding homes. Unless you can show me and example of divine intervention or a house spontaneously building itself as a result of prayer then all the work is being done by hands working, not hands praying.

“Hey J M Walker, how many of those first church of atheism organized and went down to New Orleans to help?”

He’s right, Mr. Walker. Why J M went down to Mississippi to help and never came back.

A good Christian man, he is, Mr. Walker.

He went down to Mississippi and never returned.

Hagee speaks only for those Christians who allow him to. I don’t think his comments on Katrina were theologically sound. Just his opinion.

But really Maggot, “Atheism is the only thing rebuilding homes”?????

Who to blame the rising oil prices on?
Fox News

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., laid blame of rising gas prices at the feet of Democrats, speaking with reporters.

Why is that a good place to measure? Because during that period, we’ve had an opportunity to build more refineries, and the Democratic majority voted it down. … On the production side of the equation, this new majority is not interested in doing anything,” McConnell said.

Maggotpunk
Posted April 29, 2008 at 4:00 pm | Permalink
And what is that Atheist world view Nathan? Extending a lack of belief in deities to anything else is pure hyperbole on your part.

According to the Christian authority Hagee your gods inflicted the disaster upon Mississippi, Louisiana and Alabama as a result of a parade in New Orleans. So it looks like religion is to blame. And now humans, without god, must go in and repair the damage.

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Maggot where were you when many churches did do just that. My son and 15 men from his church in Colorado Springs, rented a truck at there own expense, loaded it with all of the tools they had, took a month of accrued vacations from their jobs and worked in the NO area for over a month. Stripping houses from the outside walls in. Removing trees that were on top of houses, cleaning up stuff most of us would gag just being around. Where were you and the other athesists?

Their God was there with them and all of the other workers from churches all over the US. They bunked in church basements, slept on the floor and ate Red Cross food.

You guys need to find another mantra this one is tired.

Nathan – there is no such thing as the “world view” of atheism. Each atheist has his or her own view of things. That is the whole point – there IS no heirarchy.

You might be able to claim to speak for Christians but you certainly cannot speak for atheists.

Nathan – I know a number of atheists – their views vary all over the place. I also know Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists – and again I cannot define a ‘world view’ to which they adhere.

Perhaps it is just a bit beyond basic.

My neighbor told me to mow really really slow and it would mulch the grass on its own. And he had one of the most beautiful lawns in the whole neighborhood.

No nathan – it is you who obviously doesn’t have a clue about anyone’s beliefs other than your own. Your ignorance is exceeded only by your know-it-all arrogance.

Gee, you are the world’s expert at philosophy, science, literature, …

Anything you are NOT an expert at?

Ben,

This has nothing to do with my beliefs. It has to do with understanding what a world view is.

Either you have something constructive to add to the conversation or you don’t.

Looks like all you are left with is the name calling and personal attacks.

You could be a bit more graceful with admitting you are wrong, but I have not come to expect much from you liberals.

Thank you Chas, I was actually about to post that link myself.

“Western atheism has its roots in pre-Socratic Greek philosophy, but did not emerge as a distinct world-view until the late Enlightenment.”

How dare they call atheism a world view!

“Maggot where were you when many churches did do just that. My son and 15 men from his church in Colorado Springs, rented a truck at there own expense, loaded it with all of the tools they had, took a month of accrued vacations from their jobs and worked in the NO area for over a month. Stripping houses from the outside walls in. Removing trees that were on top of houses, cleaning up stuff most of us would gag just being around. Where were you and the other athesists?”

How does all your wealth and free time reflect on my Atheism?

I planted some trees last week, where were you and your church?

Maggot,

I already explained it in my simple terms. Chas has provided several links.

Read them. Learn something.

Maggot you were the one putting down Christian. Why don’t you own your own argument instead of changing the subject. I leave my faith out of my posts because that is my personal faith. But when you attack it knowing how many on here believe then you don’t have immunity from being calling on your posts.

And for the love of Pete how does my free time and wealth or lack thereof have to do with this argument or anything else?

My son isn’t rich but he gave of what he had including vacation time he then was not able to spend with his family. What does that have to do with your stupid post?

Maggot,

I already explained it. If you disagree with my explanation then lay out your argument.

Chas didn’t do anything besides post links.

And if you read the link to the wiki page it clearly says that Atheism is a world view. Even goes through it’s history.

It is not my silly claim. It is a sound Philisophical idea held by what I thought to be just about everyone.

I guess I was wrong.

ksgrm whines:
“Maggot you were the one putting down Christian.”

Funny thing about your reading comprehension because I wasn’t being specific about Christianity apart from mentioning Hagee. Nice to know that you associate that racist, hate-filled bigot with representing Christianity. Oh well, looks like you insulted yourself.

BTW, you changed the subject. My views don’t have anything to do with some nutters in Colorado with a lot of time and money on their hands.

Nathan dodges:
“I already explained it. If you disagree with my explanation then lay out your argument.”

What argument? I have yet to hear what my world view is concerning little green men from Mars.

Is my rejection of Krishna somehow influencing what coffee I choose to buy? I don’t think so but that’s your claim and your entire point is that you said it therefore it must be true. But you really haven’t said anything.

I don’t eat beef, it must have something to do with my rejection of Vishnu. Nathan eats beef because he believes in Vishnu although Hinduism forbids the eating of beef. How do you figure that one?

Hehe, Nathan is trying to tell me to read up on philosophy. Tell me wise one, how many college philosophy courses did you take or did you just grab some stuff off wikipedia and consider yourself a philosopher?

Since you are such a great philosopher then answering the question should be no problem for you. Yet, you continue to dodge. I looked up your comments to Ben, you never even defined world view or said what the Atheist world view is and how it’s supposed to relate to the subject. Your entire philosophical treatise is that you said it, and that’s it.

Well I gotta run off for a couple of hours (political stuff you know) so I’m sure when I get back I’ll read nothing substantial from you.

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CapnAmerica
Posted April 29, 2008 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

Regular
Posted April 29, 2008 at 2:53 pm | Permalink
Grass Clippings

* Mow regularly

* 1/3 rule – If grass is three inches long, mow off the top 1/3

* For taller grass that leaves clippings, rake up and spread across yard right before next mowing, so it can be mulched in with other clippings

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This guy is lecturing us on how to mow and he doesn’t even have an effing yard.

Typical.
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Drop on by next week Capn.

You can mow the back of my “no yard”

Hey again, I have found in my 41 years that if I tell someone they are wrong they go on the defensive. They tend to respond in a fashion that may not even be their normal responce. So here goes, “what does the public NEED all these gun changes for”?? What would the general public do with an UZI? A Sawed Off Shotgun? A silencer? How do they currently handle their problems, without these things? Why cant they continue to handle their problems in life, as they currently do? Plain and simple, what would these people use these items for? Please name a situation where these items are needed, based on what the items are. Please explain what you feel these items are. They are not TOYS! What would you do with these items? I am just curious. Herbert West III west.herb@yahoo.com

Well, we shall see if Obama can pull himself together the rest of this week. I think he can. He has the poise, and the savvy to keep his head above water!

I had to share something bizarre that happened to me today. I was taking care of my client, and went to make coffee, opened the cabinet and closed it…and a large decorative ceramic charger that was propped up on top of the cabinet came crashing down on my head. I didn’t slam the cabinet or anything. It hit me so hard, I literally saw stars. Then after hitting my head, it smashed into the countertop actually gouging the surface.

Well, I was just so impressed that my head wasn’t bleeding. I just reached up and dug a chunk of the plate out of my head! Now its bleeding. Death by ceramics?

HA.

Ummmm I think maybe a dish head, not a pot head, or jar head LOL good for you that you are not hurt very bad

Barack Hussein Obamanation restated on a nationwide TV news broadcast Sunday his adamant continued support for the heinous partial birth abortions now banned in federal law, implying his obvious intent to drive the overturning of all such pro-life restrictions on abortions, especially late-term and post-viable abortions, aiming eventually for taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand.
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Perverted Princeton professor Pete Singer, who actually advocates legalized infanticide, in some cases mandatory execution of disabled newborns, will collect $20 thousand for speaking on “conscientious food choices” at Arizona State University.
Why isn’t this man in prison for inciting heinous crimes?
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Eric Paul Henry, 30, was convicted Friday in Milwaukee County, WI Circuit Court of first-degree intentional homicide, for tying up his grandmother Anne Gordon, 75, an ordained minister, and taping a plastic bag over her head, after she refused to give him money for his girlfriend to commit an abortion. Mr. Henry faces a life sentence on June 19.

BlueJay, Your link in your nic goes nowhere. Just thought you should know.

No Troy Newman can’t participate in actual discussion because he knows he lies and will get beaten down so bad that it would make him look worse than he already does.

Let me guess, mandatory extermination of disabled newborns…meaning those who have no hope of living anyway? I think Newman should be forced to sit with a suffering person…I mean a really suffering person just waiting to die.

By the way, again, proves how desperate some people are for abortions…and that could have been prevented had some help been available for her to obtain an abortion.

BlueJay, click on your nic to see the address.

BlueJay, it goes to this:

http://andalsoshacklingthemtoanentitlementmentality/

Ummmm – ANTI – I am not Chas, or are you wanting to start a problem where none now exists? You are being very stupid to continue in this charade of idiocy!

SquarePeg, perhaps you have a twin.

J R, I believe that is true, I noticed it in a thread that would relate to the address.

Promise that if you start having flashbacks that you’ll give your guns away and have your dad lock up his.

Political mama that was not called for.

Nathan thinks he is better and better armed than anyone else.

Let’s try to be better than him.

I thought it was a rather realistic request. Asking me to never have sex again is not realistic at all. I’m fixed, so don’t worry about it- I’ve taken responsibility. Fix yourself if your mind starts going.

Too: Nathaniel, look at CALIFORNIA. LAPD lost Officers when 2 Citizen Gunmen with armored Gear robbed a LA Bank and killed LAPD Officers. These citizens had more “Fire Power” than the Police. The Police were considering looking at the Pawn Shops for Assault Weopans, during this gun fight. This story has been all over the History Channel many times. The Kansas-Partnership Program Director spoke with me today. In his 2 1/2 years as the Director, no Law Enforcement Agency in Kansas has requested an Automatic Weapon. They are available to them. They already can get them thru him. Again, I ask, what does the general public need these?? HERBERT WEST III west.herb@yahoo.com

“At least I asked you to find things to cut – to avoid taking the simpleton route of just taxing the rich more. (and if you read: They don’t have enough money if you took it ALL, to pay off the 9 trillion you throw around).”

I am asking your candidate what he wants to cut. No answer so far. I see none from you either. Big surprise there. You are such a joke and not terribly funny AmWay. In truth, quite sad…

J R, and you are paranoid to boot and don’t seek personal protection…aching to be a victim..WOW! Get help before you start cutting yourself and blaming it on Republicans.

I am out.

AmWay,

You probably won’t see this, but you need to calm down and screw your head on.

filthy rich=mega rich, something you are not, and has nothing to do with soap and water. The mega rich become corporations for “tax relief”, and our government bends over backward for them. Or maybe I should say “bends over” for them, because we all get screwed. Yes, even you. Please recall the oil company execs going to the Capital to cry for more relief, then look at how much money they are currently pocketing. If you truly enjoy being played, you’re welcome to it.

As for your disagreement about Jesus, he walked with the poor, even though he was a “king”. He didn’t sneer at the poor, and he certainly didn’t cheer the rich on to make more.

As for your tithing, it appears you do it grudgingly. Maybe you should give that some thought.