This is from a guy that openly LIES about himself, his experiences and his life.

What a joke?

What a joke!

Hey, McCluer, how was Mississippi?

Yet, you demand to know My personal information?

Hypocrite!!

Have you ever been to Mississippi, JM?

I never ASKED for your personal information - you have posted SEVERAL version of it, however, Mr. McCluer.

“That’s none of your business either Clark.”

So why do you claim to be a ‘Nam vet one day and then claim to have been too young for ‘Nam the next?

“That’s your problem Clark, no one trusts you and because of your conduct here, you can never be trusted.”

That is funny, JM.

“You don’t get to know the personal aspects of my life Clark.”

I cannot imagine anything more horrifying than knowing the personal aspects of your life, McCluer - my only issue is your credibility and why you lie about the “personal aspects” of your life?

“You use it and abuse it in your daily attacks on posters.”

Using your own words to point out your hypocrisy is not a “daily attack on posters.” It is just showing one know-it-all poster to be the fraud that he is.

So, McCluer, why are you such a liar?

LOL LOL

Chas uses his profession like a sledgehammer exercising some sort of “moral authority” over others. I just want him to prove his claim.

Ask Steven Davis about my veteran status, I showed him my retired military ID card.

That’s none of your business either Clark. I don’t go around claiming to being an expert on military matters either. I do have broad based experience and will call things like I see them. That’s called opinion.

The problem with people like you Clark, is that you can’t be trusted with personal information. You use it and abuse it in your daily attacks on posters.

That’s your problem Clark, no one trusts you and because of your conduct here, you can never be trusted.

You have zero credibility, since so many of your lies have been exposed, yet you have the gall to accuse Chas.

What a liar you are, McCluer.

Regular:
“But, I have strong suspicions about Chas. Perhaps he was defrocked? I dunno, I remain doubtful.”

Ksgrm:
“Nothing of substance in his posts - Just you are wrong because you are stupid, ignorant, your reading comprehension is bad, etc… His constant lies and exaggerations are ridiculous.

“Does your concern not run in both directions?”

First, of course it does, grm.

I got an email sent to me by Chas, that had a .pdf attachment with his vita and several church ratings on it. It looked ligit to me, but I do confess I am not an expert on such things.

He does appear to do part-time church business as necessitated by his health concerns.

I believe what he says about his business. It is okay with me, if you don’t. I am fairly sure if Christ himself showed up and told you something other than what you wanted to believe, you would not accept it.

Night.
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All ordained Minister have to be listed. All one has to do is go to where Marriage Licenses are issued in the courthouse and check to see if they are listed. There is a collection of books, (probably computerized now,) that has a list of ordained Ministers which are authorized by States to marry people.

I found this out by accident when my cousin got married and my cousin couldn’t remember when his father (my uncle) was ordained, so the Clerk looked it up.

I have another cousin, coincidentally named Charles, who was a “Captain” in the Salvation Army. I’m sure he has a rather lengthy PDF to provide as well. But he wasn’t an ordained Minister, just a very hard worker for the Salvation Army that did the work of the Lord.

Knowledge is good.

Blessings ALL!!

If you are going to accuse me of something, please make sure that it is me that posted whatever comment that offended you.

For the record, Grm, I never posted anything about Scalia and the Bush v. the World Decision.

But nice try. As I have asked before, please try to use actual facts when you post.

Ksgrm:
“Nothing of substance in his posts - Just you are wrong because you are stupid, ignorant, your reading comprehension is bad, etc… His constant lies and exaggerations are ridiculous.

“Does your concern not run in both directions?”

First, of course it does, grm.

I got an email sent to me by Chas, that had a .pdf attachment with his vita and several church ratings on it. It looked ligit to me, but I do confess I am not an expert on such things.

He does appear to do part-time church business as necessitated by his health concerns.

I believe what he says about his business. It is okay with me, if you don’t. I am fairly sure if Christ himself showed up and told you something other than what you wanted to believe, you would not accept it.

Night.

This time in the part of “Regular” says:

“Or perhaps J R, when he attacks others and talks about their wife or ex-wives and the lies he constantly posts about other posters?”

I have never lied here. If you can prove otherwise I invite you to do so.

“Tip to “peace” loving war protesters: Avoid assaulting people in wheelchairs.
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Sounds like something J R would do.”

I HAVE said I would not hesitate to kick your wrist canes out from under you. But that’s just because you are a despicable person who has threatened to kill me.

“The robe looked well worn and unclean to me. I didn’t make it up.”

YOU’VE room to talk.

Now out of deference to my friend Steven, I chose not to meet you.

For fear Nathan might make trouble.

But I HAVE seen ya James.

You look like a member of ZZ Top that fell through a garbage dump. I should imagine there is an odor I would find nauseating.

You want me to bring back those articles on how the Clinton and Gore administration lost millions of emails as well?

It’s still sad that you believe in Internet trash, instead of a Senate Intelligence Committee finding.

As I said, if the people lie in the Senate, they go to prison or at the very least will be admonished by the entire Senate.

So tell me J M Walker, on this particular subject, has that occurred? The answer is of course, no.

I also stated congress was a willing partner in looking the other way during the whole fiasco leading up to the war. So just how the hell can that same congress come to any other conclusion? If congress had found against the white house and the CIA, they would have been shooting themselves in the foot. And, gee, that might mean they wouldn’t get reelected. So who are you going to believe, Regular, a corrupt congress bent on getting reelected, or people who were there during this OSP fiasco?

To quote, “Don’t tell me, I already know the answer and that answer is a sad one - it is sad in that it measures the content of your character Regular.”

And you STILL don’t understand why I brought up Douglas Feith’s denials in the first place, so how can you understand anything else brought up here? It had nothing to do with his denials, OSP or his freakin’ book; it had everything to do with how this administration backstabs its own appointees, then cries foul when the appointees bite back. Or how about just the corrupt ones?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/132173/25-Most-Corrupt-Officials-in-the-Bush-Administration

“You can’t erase e-mails, not today,” said Leahy, D-Vermont. “They’ve gone through too many servers. They can’t say they’ve been lost. That’s like saying, ‘The dog ate my homework.’ ”
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/13/white.house.email/index.html

The report I gave you is from the United States Senate where people can go to prison for lying if they don’t report the truth as the facts state.

Not only did an CIA evidence refute the allegations made; Senator Rockefeller and Levin have TO DATE UNABLE TO COME UP WITH ANY EVIDENCE THAT CONFIRMS THEIR ALLEGATIONS.

There, I did a Chas.

Was that clear enough for you J M Walker?

Two U.S. Senators on the Democratic side of the house have yet to come up with any evidence on the allegation you now claim is made by some ‘book writer.’

Senate investigation or some writer who sold out to the higher bidder in a publishing war - who ya gonna believe J M Walker?

Don’t tell me, I already know the answer and that answer is a sad one - it is sad in that it measures the content of your character J M Walker.

“Despite extensive planning by the U.S. Department of State’s Future of Iraq Project to deal with post-Saddam chaos, much of which (including museum looting and extensive water and power shortages) was fully anticipated and provided for in those plans, these plans were simply set aside by Rumsfeld. [1].

“Air Force Lt. Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski, who worked in the Pentagon until her retirement, was with the Office of Special Plans: ‘What I saw was aberrant, pervasive and contrary to good order and discipline,’ Kwiatkowski wrote recently. ‘If one is seeking the answers to why peculiar bits of ‘intelligence’ found sanctity in a presidential speech, or why the post-Saddam occupation has been distinguished by confusion and false steps, one need look no further than the process inside the Office of the Secretary of Defense.’ She described the activities of Rumsfeld’s Office of Special Plans as, ‘A subversion of constitutional limits on executive power and a co-optation through deceit of a large segment of the Congress.’ [2].

In July 2003, “due to ever increasing criticism about the role OSP has played in the gathering of intelligence and the conclusions made to justify the war with Iraq, the Pentagon changed the name of OSP back to its original name, Northern Gulf Affairs Office.” [3].

Julian Borger, in his July 17, 2003 article “The spies who pushed for war,” published by the Guardian/UK, writes that Democratic congressman David Obey said concerning the OSP: “‘The office was charged with collecting, vetting and disseminating intelligence completely outside of the normal intelligence apparatus. In fact, it appears that information collected by this office was in some instances not even shared with established intelligence agencies and in numerous instances was passed on to the National Security Council and the president without having been vetted with anyone other than political appointees’.” [4]

On March 9, 2004, Los Angeles Times’ staff reporter Greg Miller writes that during testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee, George J. Tenet, Director of the CIA, revealed that “A special intelligence unit at the Pentagon provided private prewar briefings to senior White House officials on alleged ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda without the knowledge of [the] CIA Director … [and the] disclosure suggests that a controversial Pentagon office played a greater role than previously understood in shaping the administration’s views on Iraq’s alleged ties to the terrorist network behind the Sept. 11 attacks, and that it bypassed usual channels to make a case that conflicted with the conclusions of CIA analysts.” [5]

In her 4-page article “The New Pentagon Papers” published March 10, 2004, by Salon, Karen Kwiatkowski, “reveals how Defense Department extremists suppressed information and twisted the truth to drive the country to war.” [6]

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Office_of_Special_Plans

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“Everything I’m hearing from my own sources in Washington is that what you have now is a kind of push back by Vice-President [Dick] Cheney and his office and other hardliners who are opposed to diplomatic dealings with North Korea,” he said.

“[They are] hoping that by making public these allegations of nuclear cooperation it will torpedo the diplomatic process.”

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/04/25/2227483.htm?section=world

http://rpc.senate.gov/_files/Feb0706DoDIntellMS.pdf

It appears that J M Walker is repeating unsubstantiated swill that has no foundation and even refuted by a CIA investigation.

September 22, 2005: Senator Levin repeated the same allegation of deception in his letter to
the Department of Defense Inspector General. Senator Levin asserted that DOD “sent to
several congressional committees in January 2004 revised ORCON materials that were
represented as containing the CIA’s requested changes to the October 2003 documents, but
which did not fully and accurately reflect the CIA’s requested changes,” and he asked if this
constituted “mislead[ing] Congress.”40
• Thus, Senator Levin repeated a serious charge, the factual basis of which the CIA had
undercut nearly a year before.

At the July 9, 2004, press conference for the public release of the SSCI report, Senator
Rockefeller asked whether “the number three guy in the Defense Department, Douglas Feith,
. . .was he running a private intelligence failure [sic – the Senator presumably meant
operation], which is not lawful.”
• In response, the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Legislative Affairs wrote to Senator
Rockefeller asking him to provide “evidence supporting the serious charge, . . . [or] a
retraction and apology would be appropriate.”41
• To this day, Senator Rockefeller has not provided any evidence for the charge, has not
apologized for it, but has not abandoned it.
o SSCI Chairman Pat Roberts summarized the situation: “The Committee is concerned
about persistent and, to date, unsubstantiated allegations that there was something
unlawful or improper about the activities of the Office of Special Plans within the
office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy. . . . I have not discovered any
credible evidence of unlawful or improper activity, yet the allegations persist.”42

• To this day, Senator Levin has yet to retract, or apologize for his allegation against Mr. Feith,
which the CIA long ago exposed as having no foundation.

The entire PDF can be read at the link provided above.

Yep I believe that man.

Jm I would be much more impressed with this revelation if the man wasn’t hawking a book. It amazes me how many memories are jarred to the realities when writing a book are concerned.
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His book and the bs going with it is not the point. The point is his falling off the bushbus, as so many of ex bushco’s have done. Really sick pattern here.

Yo J M Walker,

Bush was briefed daily by a Clinton appointed head of the CIA.

He should have gotten up to date and accurate information right?
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What was this “Clinton appointee” fed, and who was feeding him, Paul Wolfowitz or Douglas Feith? Get real, Regular, this one IS a smoking gun, and brings to light just how corrupt this administration is. the OSP was the main planning stage for the war in Iraq, and used nonvetted info; something NO intelligent, responsible President would do. And what does that leave? Bushco.