Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
- Douglas Adams
Except Douglas Adams was wrong: learning from the experience of others is almost universal among mammals and birds.
Oh well; this mornin’s rave:
Notice how the entire U.S. is hysterical over five teen-age girls who are with child in that crazed texas religious compound story, but is falling over backwards to worship the pope.
How many thousands of very young women do you suppose were married in Catholic ceremonies world wide this year?
So here we have a guy running about the country in a white dress and a pointy hat followed by acolytes with red caps, all of them supported by the pennies of the poor. While the throwback Mormons are self-sufficient.
The two faiths obviously have one thing in common — unrestricted breeding, in a world bursting at the seams with people.
Someone should point out that the child abuse record in Texas foster homes is not exactly stain free. Being Texas, many foster families are Fundy Xians. Out of the frying pan into the fire?
(I once talked to a kid who was put in a Hays foster home where he was required to get down on his knees and blubber loud prayers every time an ambulance passed.)
I would wager that if these children were put into foster homes, the rate of sexual abuse of children would probably be about the same as would the average age of first sexual contact for females. The age of the first partner would no doubt decline. This in essence is what the fight is about.
The children’s health and diets would definately decline. But at least they’d be ‘Mericans.
Five teenage girls out of how many, a hundred maybe? Sounds like a lot lower number than our Wichita high schools. Maybe child protective services should raid the high schools taking them all into custody.
As ‘beber’ pointed out above, and is well worth repeating so as not to get lost, at least the Mormons are self-sufficient and not a tax burden on society when and after they have their babies.
This may or may not turn out to have been necessary, but I have an uncomfortable hunch it’s another example of the ‘authorities’ not liking a lifestyle they don’t understand so they stick their noses in it to force conformity to what they want.
Yeah–burdening taxpayers is SO much worse than raping children.
“ELDORADO, Texas (CNN) — The 16-year-old girl whose phone calls led to a raid on a polygamist compound in Texas identified Dale Evans Barlow as the man who she said beat, choked and sexually assaulted her after their “spiritual marriage,” according to a court document unsealed Wednesday.
An affidavit says “Sarah,” 16, said Dale Evans Barlow, shown in 2005, beat her and forced her to have sex.
The affidavit, signed by Texas Ranger Leslie Brooks Long, also says a former member of the polygamist church told authorities details of the sect’s activities — including a bed inside the group’s temple that adult men used to have sex with underage girls immediately after wedding ceremonies.
After authorities raided the ranch late Thursday, the ranger “observed the bed within the temple that had disturbed bed linens and a strand of hair that appears to be from a female head.”
Seriously, dude. The fact that your “uncomfortable hunch” leads you to preemptorily vindicate the cult and its activities toward children says a lot about you–too much, in fact.
“but I have an uncomfortable hunch it’s another example of the ‘authorities’ not liking a lifestyle they don’t understand so they stick their noses in it to force conformity to what they want.”
Sounds like the Marriage amendment. It also brings to mind folks who think every pregnancy is “a gift from God not to be trifled with”
I’m sorry. Wasn’t there a 911 call reporting spousal abuse at the ranch? I think that would tend to separate the long noses from the short and correctly directed.
As I said, “This may or may not turn out to have been necessary…, and if those things turn out to be true I’m glad there was intervention. The last I read they hadn’t even found the girl that made the call.
John McCain’s latest effort to bribe the American people to vote for him is pandering at its finest. As The Atlantic notes in “McCainomics”:
McCain’s speech reads like an attempt to unify a divided party by offering every faction something to make them happy.
This is quite a departure from the “straight talk express”. He itemized a list of populist economic positions for the sole purpose of gaining more votes in an election year. The belief is that no one will consider the feasibility of transforming this vote bribery into actual law. As we mentioned in the past McCain is a chameleon. He is a political opportunist and not much more. He is the GOP’s answer to Bill Clinton. He is representative of the fact that there is little difference between the two major parties.
Contrary to belief, there is another Republican still in the race who is everything John McCain isn’t. And that is a very good thing. Ron Paul is incapable of pandering. Ron Paul won’t propose policy for the purpose of winning votes. He will (and does) propose policy that preserves and protects the Constitution. By doing so he not only keeps his oath of office, but he protects the American people. For some reason this has become the exception rather than the norm in politics today.
American politics is an STD: A special-interest transmitted disease. As newly elected officials enter their white buildings they slowly become what they once despised. The lure is too great. They transform from well-meaning ideologues into puppets and “Talking Heads”. Indeed, a few wake up every now and then and say to themselves, “how did I get here?”. But far too few do.
By SCOTT MICHELS and CHRIS CUOMO, ABC News
SAN ANGELO, Texas, April 17, 2008
“Where is the 16 year Old Polygamist Victim?
Experts say Texas polygamy case may unravel if girls is not found.
Among the hundreds of children, lawyers and caseworkers involved in an unprecedented child custody hearing, one person will be noticeably absent — the 16-year-old girl whose call for help set in motion the largest child protection case in U.S. history.
Texas authorities say they have not located or identified the girl, though they have said they believe she is among the 416 children from a polygamous sect who were taken into state custody nearly two weeks ago.
Some people are now questioning whether she exists at all.”
How many thousands of very young women do you suppose were married in Catholic ceremonies world wide this year?
I’d like a citation, please. I did a search and could only find references to places like Pakistan, india, and even Egypt where arranged marriages were enacted by the couple living with their parents until puberty. And they weren’t Catholic. And however much you hate Catholics, for whatever reason, it must really get in your craw that it was the first christian religion.
Boxlock, the women are demanded by their husbands to go get on public assistance, because technically they’re single mothers.
Now you say what again?
They also kick their boys out to make more marryable girls for the men.
Then there is this gem.
JESSOP: Well, you know, it was from multiple levels. Merrill did a form of water torture on babies, and it was a method he called breaking them, where he would take the baby and spank them until they were screaming out of control, and then he would hold the baby face up under a tap of running water for a minute, maybe as long as a minute, and then he`d take a baby out, spank them again and then the process would just repeat. He`d do this until the baby was just so exhausted, it couldn`t fight anymore. He called it breaking them. And what the method was behind it was to instill an extreme level of fear for their father, but do it at an age that they wouldn`t remember the process that was used to instill that fear.
GRACE: What would the wives do as he did this to their babies?
JESSOP: You know, he did it to my oldest son, and I still can`t talk about it without crying. I witnessed it. I was terrified of him. I was still a — I mean, I was in my — I had barely turned 20. I was pregnant, with morning sickness and incredibly ill with my second baby. And I didn`t dare to say anything. I was afraid he would be worse and hurt my baby worse. But after that one episode, he never did it in front of me again. But I`m aware, you know, since then, from things that people have told me, that he did it with several of my babies. He just never did it in front of me again.
GRACE: Let me ask you, where are your children now?
JESSOP: I have all of them with me except for my oldest daughter. She — the FLDS are experts in breaking down relationships between children and their mother. And I had to have professional help with this problem when I left to reestablish relationship with my children. I never was able to with my oldest daughter.
Maybe? Maybe? Maybe? What kind of answer is that when 461 children are rounded up and taken from their parents?
Notice the date of CF2..whatever’s information above, it’s old.
Friday, April 18, 2008
Texas cult case: Where’s Sarah?
A week ago, Rusty Shackleford said of the Texas polygamy cult case:
“From the beginning my ’something not right about the way this is being reported’ detector has been going off.
Rusty may be onto something. Remember 16-year-old “Sarah”? Nearly two weeks after the raid, Texas officials say they still haven’t found her:
“In good faith?” Remember, this hearing is about the state of Texas seeking custody of all 461 children from the FLDS cult. The case began with this one allegation of abuse, the state has failed even to locate the person who made the allegation, and yet hundreds of children are in danger of being taken from their parents?
As Rusty said, it’s the way the media is reporting the case that causes suspicion. The media has tried to portray this as a “children endangered” case, repeating Texas officials’ claims that girls were “spiritually married” as soon as they reached puberty. But if there is any actual evidence of that, it didn’t come out in the first day of court hearings:
” but where’s the evidence? If the state can produce actual evidence of pregnant 13- and 14-year-olds — and obstetric examinations could determine that very easily –then they’ve got a serious case. So far, though, there has been no report of any such evidence. So far as can be determined from this CNN/AP story, they’ve found one 16-year-old with a baby, but if every pregnant 16-year-old in Texas is cause for a paramilitary raid, they’re going to need more SWAT teams.
Statutory rape and polygamy are both against the law, and FLDS members may be charged with either crime. But lurid tales of young virgins forcibly raped in temple rituals by their “spiritual” husbands as soon as the girls reached menarche? Sounds like media hype to me.
As I said, if there is abuse…prosecute, but they better have more than this or it’s abuse by government.
“the women are demanded by their husbands to go get on public assistance, because technically they’re single mothers.”
Political_mama, if that’s the case then take APPROPRIATE action to stop the welfare abuse.
Also you say, “They also kick their boys out to make more marryable girls for the men.” I say if that’s true, at what age. That happens frequently with young men ‘of age’.
Listen, I’m not defending them if they’ve done something wrong. And if the stories we are hearing are true, and are as bad as indicated by some as far as abuse, then prosecute them, hell hang um. But this was a rush to judgment by the authorities that need to respect individual, and group, liberties.
“She may have lived all her life in a faith that teaches her that she will be condemned to hell if she dare raise her voice or ask a question.” Blue Jay.
Catholics in Mexico believe that if a man rapes a girl, she must marry him. — P.M.
Actually, p.m., it’s the other way around. Generally, if a man impregnates a woman, he must marry her, as she is otherwise dishonored, as is he. That’s fairly archaic, though, even in Mexico. Have you ever been to Mexico. Read a book about Mexico. Studied Mexican literature?
“How is that any different than the rest of them?”
Other faiths you mean.
In belief, not a great deal different.
See political mama’s post at 8:43 as to practice.
I think it is fair to assume we have a couple of posters here who regard women as a lower form of human being. There other posts here speak volumes about them and their character.
Add 81-year-old Isaac Singletary to your list of wrongful drug war victims.
Police were apparently conducting an undercover drug investigation when Singletary asked them to leave his property. They didn’t. So he asked again, this time with a handgun.
And that was the end of Isaac Singletary.
Whether or not he had reason to know the men on his lawn were police is still under investigation. It seems unlikely. The officers were undercover. And neighbors and relatives say Singletary was protective of his property precisely because of the drug activity in the area.
It’s the third shooting involving the Jacksonville, Fla. sheriff’s office in three weeks, causing local state’s attorney Harry Shorstein to ponder, “If we’re just selling drugs to addicts, I don’t know what we’re accomplishing.”
Shame that it takes a pile of bodies to come to that realization.
“…because the laws in this country only recognize one of their multiple marriages as legal, the other wives are apparently claiming to be single moms struggling to care for a house full of dependents. This makes them eligible for government aid, and lots of it. They are on welfare and you are footing the bill!”
No Bases for Empire: International Activists Organize Against U.S. Foreign Bases in Their Backyards
It sounds like a fast-food franchise—hundreds of locations spanning some 130 countries across the globe. But in fact, it’s perhaps the ultimate face of U.S. hegemony: military bases. There are more than 700 U.S. military bases worldwide, used for launching wars, holding prisoners and testing weapons. One could be closing down in Ecuador, where lawmakers recently approved a ban on foreign bases. Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa has famously quipped that he’ll let the U.S. military remain if the U.S. agrees to an Ecuadorian military base in Miami.
300,000 US troops who served in Iraq and Afghanistan are suffering from major depression or post-traumatic stress disorder. This, according to a new study by the RAND Corporation. Researchers say nearly 20 percent of the troops who served in the war zones are suffering PTSD and depression, but only half of them have sought treatment. RAND researcher Terri Tanielian said, “Unless they receive appropriate and effective care for these mental health conditions, there will be long-term consequences for them and for the nation.” The study also estimates that 320,000 service members had experienced a possible traumatic brain injury while deployed. Researchers say female soldiers and reservists had the highest rates of post-traumatic stress disorder and major depression. Meanwhile, in Texas, the Dallas VA Medical Center has been forced to close its psychiatric ward to new patients after the suicides of four veterans this year.
To all the pro-war people, justify this. Justify the torment of these troops. This doesn’t even cover their families. Look at the devastation this idiotic war has wreaked on our soldiers.
You pro-war types say that you support the troops. You support the troops and want to keep putting them through this. That is an oxymoron. You support their torment. Nice job.
Think about the cost of treating these troops long term. How many of them will receive treatment and still not recover? Pro war folks don’t support the troops; they support the troop’s demise. No, you want to know what an ‘Un-American’ is? It is one who supports the continued devastation of our troops for oil that will never materialize. How American of you.
US to Release Iraqi Prisoners, Teach Them About Islam
The Wall Street Journal reports US commanders in Iraq have begun releasing hundreds of Iraqi prisoners after concluding the military’s detention policy might be harming US goals in Iraq[ya THINK???]. The US is currently holding about 23,000 Iraqis, many without charge. The US military has begun building a pair of large halfway houses in Taji and Ramadi, where detainees will undergo vocational training. The Wall Street Journal reports the US military also plans to teach religious courses[THAT should work out well.] to the former prisoners about how to be a moderate Muslim. Imams will be brought in by the military to teach courses that highlight the Islamic precepts that bar the killing of innocents and offer alternative interpretations of jihad. Link
I’d read several children had identified a female meeting the callers description, on their campus. She may have been brough in, consecrated in the temple, and moved out. Who Knows, she may have been found out and ‘chastised’.
Those horney old bastids couldn’t even wait to get them home and had to set up a ‘marriage bed’ in the temple!
GOP Rep.: Revoke Jimmy Carter’s passport for Hamas visits
Nick Langewis and David Edwards
Published: Thursday April 17, 2008
He’s just unilaterally going off on his own and undermining everything the international community and the United States is (sic) trying to do,” protested Republican U.S. House Rep. Sue Myrick (NC-09) today in the call to revoke the passport of former president Jimmy Carter.
Myrick also wants taxpayer funds to the Carter Center, which conducts humanitarian efforts worldwide, severed. “Why,” the lawmaker asks, “should we support his center when he will not support his government?”
“Frankly,” the lawmaker said, “I wanted to send a strong message, because we have a policy in this country about Hamas, and he is just deliberately undermining that policy, and it’s wrong.
“You know, Hamas has continually stood for terrorism against peace, and the State Department, the administration [and] Israel all opposed him going over there to meet.”
Hamas has been designated as a terrorist organization by the United States, Canada, Israel and Japan.
“Any side that kills innocent people guilty of terrorism,” President Carter, author of Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid, told an audience at Cairo’s American University, following visits with Hamas officials and Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. He was responding to a student that told him that he was legitimizing terrorists by speaking with Hamas leaders.
Interesting statistics there Sol, care to back them up with real numbers?
My nephew is out of the Army with 100 percent disability, PSTD, shrapnel wounds, exposed to several road-side bombs and other conditions which I won’t describe here.
I’m curious how that number was derived. 300,000 is a lot, especially considering there are not that many troops now or in the past in Iraq. Even considering rotations, not every troop is exposed to hostile fire and certainly not all to road side bombs.
I would like to know where your story got those statistics.
Since October 2001, approximately 1.64 million U.S. troops have been deployed for Operations Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom (OEF/OIF) in Afghanistan and Iraq.
I know how it’s spelled sol, it was a typo. You can climb down from your high horse now.
The findings were extrapolated from a survey of 1,926 recently returned service members from across the military services. The sample was designed to represent the 1.6 million troops who have deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan since 2002.
Yeah okay, this is the same method that was used by that highly rated Statistical team that said 600,000 Iraqi Civilians had been killed when they surveyed 1000 civilians.
“The RAND Corporation (Research ANd Development[1]) is a nonprofit global policy think tank first formed to offer research and analysis to the United States armed forces. The organization has since expanded to working with other governments, private foundations, international organizations, and commercial ”
“Since October 2001, approximately 1.64 million U.S. troops have been deployed for Operations Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom (OEF/OIF) in Afghanistan and Iraq. ”
A little ommission there, They’re in large part,The Same Troops!
It is hard to believe Dave! So much has been hard to believe over the past seven plus years.
“May we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion”
“Every gun that’s made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms…is spending the genius of its scientists, the sweat of its laborers,”
“The findings were extrapolated from a survey of 1,926 recently returned service members from across the military services. The sample was designed to represent the 1.6 million troops who have deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan since 2002.”
It is inherently flawed.
For one 1.6 million troops include all types, including those not near, in or part of contact with hostiles or a even a chance to get TBI.
- That’s part of the extrapolation mistake.
Secondly, one does not equate clinical diagnosis to patients never examined.
Thirdly, and as far as I know (from all the tests my nephew had to take) Traumatic Brain Injury has to be diagnosed through several complicated test over a period of time. How is it Rand Corporation did this without touching a MRI, X-Ray or even a stethoscope?
Perhaps I am wrong about how the 600,000 figure was derived kscitydude, but the erroneous results achieved by the statistical survey is still an error.
At the time of that erroneous report, the Iraqi government and the U.S. Military had concluded that about 60,000 had been killed (iraqi civilians)
Exploding that to 10 times the amount is almost funny, if it wasn’t so tragic.
I called B.S. on that study as well and was later confirmed as being correct in doing so.
Editors, I am sick of this crap popping up all the time. Surely you are not powerless to stop it. I’m sure that some young people occasionally pop in and are exposed to this garbage.
“…because the laws in this country only recognize one of their multiple marriages as legal, the other wives are apparently claiming to be single moms struggling to care for a house full of dependents. This makes them eligible for government aid, and lots of it. They are on welfare and you are footing the bill!”
Lindalaikes correctly quotes this (“http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/09/randi-kaye-are-you-paying-for-polygamy/) CNN story, but fails to mention it is mealy-mouthed bullshit. Any reporter could determine instantly if the Reform Mormons in Texas are milking wellfare by comparing wellfare expinditures in the county in which the temple is located with those before it located there.
Note how the journalist qualified the lead:
“I hope you have some extra cash lying around because Warren Jeffs and his polygamist sect may be dipping into your wallet.”
In other words what he is reporting is it is possible that the sect is milking the system, but he doesn’t know one way or the other.
I may have had sex with Linsey Lohan, according to sources.
How about the next time we get the porno link trackbacks, we copy it and send it to Brownlee’s email? I’m gonna do it. If several do it, it will get his attention.
A total of 1,965 individuals responded.
Results showed that
• 18.5% of all returning servicemembers meet criteria for
either PTSD or depression (see Figure 1); 14% of returning
servicemembers currently meet criteria for PTSD,
and 14% meet criteria for depression (numbers
not shown in Figure 1).
• 19.5% reported experiencing a probable TBI during
deployment (see Figure 1).
• About 7% meet criteria for a mental health problem and
also report a possible TBI.
About 1.4 million troops have served in Iraq or Afghanistan, and more than 205,000 have sought care from the veterans’ agency, according to the government. Link
The number of troops who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan recently passed 1.5 million early this year. Link
• VA hospitals, where Iraq and Afghanistan veterans have been screened for combat brain injuries since April. The VA found about 20% of 61,285 surveyed — or 11,804 veterans — with signs of brain injury, spokeswoman Alison Aikele says. VA doctors say more evaluation is necessary before a true diagnosis of brain injury can be confirmed in all these cases, Aikele says. Link
Maybe we should all just read the 500 page study that Rand put out. By reading a small summary by a couple of reporters, we all might be not getting a clear picture.
Here is another article I found about this when I went to the armytimes.com:
VA hospitals, where Iraq and Afghanistan veterans have been screened for combat brain injuries since April. The VA found about 20% of 61,285 surveyed — or 11,804 veterans
Yes Sol, that sounds more like the numbers expected to occur under proper clinically diagnosed scenarios.
That’s the point I was attempting to make. Diagnosis from statistics partially extrapolated out of a complex report by Rand, may have been literally and deliberately misinterpreted by some glory seeking reporters.
Common sense told me otherwise as you have just confirmed.
Thanks for the second look at the problem Sol.
Oh btw, just from your one paragraph: About 1.4 million troops have served in Iraq or Afghanistan, and more than 205,000 have sought care from the veterans’ agency, according to the government.
The 300,000 number hasn’t even been reached by clinical visits of returning veterans. That number all by itself should have set alarm bells off in your head.
• About 19 percent, or 320,000 service members, reported that they experienced a possible traumatic brain injury while deployed. In wars where blasts from roadside bombs are prevalent, the injuries can range from mild concussions to severe head wounds.
• About 7 percent reported a probable brain injury and current PTSD or major depression.
• Only 43 percent reported ever having been evaluated by a physician for their head injuries.
• Only 53 percent of service members with PTSD or depression sought help during the past year.
• They gave various reasons for not getting help, including that they worried about the side effects of medication; believe family and friends could help them with the problem; or that they feared seeking care might damage their careers.
• Rates of PTSD and major depression were highest among women and reservists.
so are you stating that the Army times would run a story and “literally and deliberately misinterpreted ” it?
I haven’t made an error to apologize for. I am restating what RAND (as hired by the military to do) reported.
19% of service members, reported that they experienced a possible traumatic brain injury while deployed. In wars where blasts from roadside bombs are prevalent, the injuries can range from mild concussions to severe head wounds.
About 7 percent reported a probable brain injury and current PTSD or major depression.
• Only 43 percent reported ever having been evaluated by a physician for their head injuries.
• Only 53 percent of service members with PTSD or depression sought help during the past year.
The above are hard numbers. % of those questioned. So let’s hear how you refute these numbers.
Remember – RAND, hired by the Dod. Army Times ran the same story…
“I just keep wondering, what happen to the America we grew up in? Is it gone forever? or was it ever really here? — Greatful Dave.
I read one study which concluded that the average age of first sexual experience hasn’t changed in the USA since the 1940s. Remember, in computing this statistic, age of marriage is irrelevant.
At any rate, Linda’s link to the CNN story regarding Reformed Mormons on welfare made me realize how when Fox set a new low bar for journalism, other providers had to follow in order to maintain ratings. Could you imagine Beck or Grace on CNN pre-Fox?
What this tells us about our country is that the common denominator is pretty low. All our troubles aren’t due to Bush, to the Democrats or the Republicans; they have all been caused by us.
funny, he still buys the study of WMDs and not having a clue about flying airplanes into buildings. I’ll see your Rand Corp., Reg and raise you two Kindaliesalot Rices!
To say that the sample was unrepresentative because soldiers without direct combat experience were over-sampled, makes the logical error by way of an unstated assertion that one would not be at risk for PTSD unless one had direct combat experience. Experience from Viet Nam and the rate of PTSD among medical personnel would tend to dispute that underlying assumption.
Dorking, I know we ALL gathered from your statements months ago that you’re a proponent of child rape, so your opinion matters to me as much as the freakshows down there that are being tried.
I get my information from many sources. There are many cultural beliefs among mexicans that frankly should be addressed by the Catholic church. It is NOT the other way around, why do you find so many girls being molested and raped by illegal immigrants? It’s because they don’t take this seriously there.
Its also why they had to finally give up on keeping abortion illegal in Mexico.
women should not be property or a conquest in any culture. US or not. We’re not someone’s slaves. That polygamist camp is notorious for this kind of abuse of women and children, it’s all about dominance.
Yes Steven Davis, but EMT’s and Emergency Room Personnel also suffer from PTSD. High stress situations often lead to future mental anomalies.
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Amusing Fish, however, the nature of some WMD’s such as biologicals degrade over time as to not give any clue of their existence. At least, not outside of normal background noise.
You are most likely familiar with the term half-life. Actually, all things, including biologicals have their own types of half-lives.
This means if you go looking for stuff where it was once stored, you may find unexpected results. That is very little trace, no detectable trace or traces that are meaningless because they are overwhelmed by the environmental background noise.
I used to inspect underground shelters (storm and Civil Defense.) It was always curious to me to find bottles of aspirin completely turned to powder and virtually useless, as the components, salicylic acid had completely broken down the constituent parts. The fillers are often more susceptible to decay that the main active ingredient.
Chemical WMD’s are even more volatile. Perhaps Ben, a trained Chemist wants to explain that. But let’s just say that chemicals used in warfare are not only inherently unstable, the containers that hold are more than likely to leak out the chemical over time, especially if they are poorly constructed.
“There are more than 700 U.S. military bases worldwide, used for launching wars, holding prisoners and testing weapons.”
I said something to that effect and Nathan jumped down my throat.
It’s true that there are so many US bases around the world that even the US military may not have an accurate count of them. But the known bases are over 700, just as I said.
I pulled this from a blog I read. I thought it was well written and deserved to be shared:
On Kudlow and Company today I saw someone try to argue inflation as good for the economy cause it keeps prices from rising due to loss of purchasing power. My jaw hit the floor when I heard this, afterwards another commentator said America will be able to afford luxury items as long as the Fed keeps lower interesting rates and printing dollars to meet the demand… at this point my jaw dropped to the floor ripped off my skull.
So first let’s explore the first statement and break it down:
“Inflation is good for the economy”
First off a weaker dollar hurts everyone. Here’s How:
-Prices on food, gas another necessities go up while wages lose purchasing power faster than they rise.
- This decreases the labor supply for many small companies that can’t afford to increase their wages to keep up with increase need for higher wages to keep the same standard of living, in the meanwhile their purchasing power is dropping with their productivity.
- imports increase in cost, increasing the cost of a lot of electronics, and the cost of materials used to make domestic goods in effect increasing domestic prices further.
- The increased purchasing power of other nations creates higher levels of ownership of the US economy by foreign nations, which will in the long term effect US sovereignty.
etc. etc. etc.
But the statement in question has another section that deserves scrutiny.
“the decreased purchasing power pushes luxury prices down”
To Be fair, this statement is partly correct but the implication of this reality isn’t something to be optimistic about. The way this happens is that since a persons ability to afford necessities becomes so tight that many have to forgo luxury items, so things like IPODs and Guitars would have either drop prices to even out demand or increase the prices and charge a premium to the elite few who have the discretionary funds to buy these items.
So what does this mean?
- Gas and Good prices have gone up so they have to cut spending on leisure, this is not a good economic indicator for anyone unless your planning to sell Apple. Luckily, there is the Chinese market.
- With less demand for these kind of items you’ll see less variety, which will result in less innovation from competitive pressure which slows the progress of society.
Now to go on to the second statement…
“The economy will be fine if the Federal Reserve continues to print money and lower interest rates”
No and No
Against Printing Cash:
When you have more of something, it becomes worth less thus the law of supply and demand. More money means it’ll be worth less, and you have the economic effects above. This primarily effects the middle class and below who’s economic world is primarily domestic. More wealthy people are suffering losses in their investments in the housing sector and many luxury items may hurt in the long term if this continues but at least these people usually have safety nets of foreign investments that are in some places less volatile than the US currently.
Against Lower Interest Rates:
I’m not against interest rates going down or up, but the federal reserve does this by manipulating the money supply which is essentially shifting the value of peoples assets in an indirect re-distribution of the nations wealth which is ridiculously immoral no matter which way you shift the interest rate.
Like if you and I both had a glass but yours was filled with water so I poured half of your water in my glass, while I didn’t take your glass I did steal half the value from your glass. This is the effect of lower interest rates artificially.
Or if 10 people had glasses 1/10th full so I took all their water and put it in one cup. This would simulate the effect of artificially raising interest rates.
either way this manipulation of the value of the dollar shifts wealth. The answer is to let the market decide interest rates by ending the borrowing of money from the discount window so Banks must practice smart and safe banking.
Regliar writes: “I’m curious how that number [of wounded in Iraq] was derived. 300,000 is a lot, especially considering there are not that many troops now or in the past in Iraq.”
KCDude links to an article the headline of which reads “PTSD, depression afflict 300,000 Iraq, Afghan war vets: study” and Sol smacks him down with this: “Since October 2001, approximately 1.64 million U.S. troops have been deployed for Operations Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom (OEF/OIF) in Afghanistan and Iraq.”
But ReguLIAR insists he is not wrong. No he’s not wrong.
Then he himself posts this: “The VA found about 20% of 61,285 surveyed — or 11,804 veterans.”
Hey, Jeenyous, what is 20 percent of 1.6 million? Oh, sh!t, it’s 320,000, exactly what the study in question said it was.
All CONs are not as dumb as ReguLIAR. But all dumb people are CONs.
Good observation,
‘What this tells us about our country is that the common denominator is pretty low. All our troubles aren’t due to Bush, to the Democrats or the Republicans; they have all been caused by us.”
Sol, I dont believe I have seen any postings from Chas today. You must need your vision checked, unless you are normally this stupid. I also dont see any posts from this double colon you make reference to. See, your Editors mqde me use my full “handle” with their new Sign In system, which seems to work very well, for the time being.
Regular - YOU told us about the breakdown of the substances, thus leaving what might once have been a WMD, worthless. Whatever high horse you rode in on, why dont you ride out on it as well.
I lived in the border town of Laredo for two years, and had a Mexican girlfriend at the time . . . if you can call chapeoned dates with the girl’s mother having a girlfriend.
I never heard anyone say that directly, but it sounds about par: Men are dogs and it’s the woman’s job to keep them in line. If he goes too far, it’s her fault for letting him.
“why do you find so many girls being molested and raped by illegal immigrants?” — p.m.
Because there are a lot of illegal immigrants so there are bound to be a lot of girls molested by them. However, I doubt seriously the rate at which girls are molested in Mexico, or in the U.S. by people of Mexican/Central American descent is any higher than the rate at which white people molest young girls. The vast majority of girls who are molested are molested by their relatives or acquaintances of the family. You know that.
Also, despite the low age of consent in Mexico, I wouldn’t be molesting any young girls there. The punishment is often being beaten to death on a public street by a mob. I’ve seen it many times on television, and read of many instances of such “justice” in the newspapers. By practically stating that it is accepted, you are only restating my contention that you are an ignorant, vicious bitch.
“You are most likely familiar with the term half-life. Actually, all things, including biologicals have their own types of half-lives” — Regular.
This the the height of cheek. Remember before the war when so many rational people argued that Saddam could not have biological or chemical weapons because of the half-life argument? It was essentially one of Scott Ritter’s main points. Now, reversed, it is an excuse as to why we did not find WMD in Iraq. I doubt seriously whether this is original thought from Regular, as he is often too busy diddling his nieces to do his own thinking.
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Just to be clear, it would appear to me that the Rand study used methodology consistent with that which is usually employed in the psychiatric epidemiology discipline.
I am not aware of any recent studies where cases were identified by diagnostic interview. The cost of such would be prohibitive and the benefits, over the survey method, seldom worth the greater expence.
Naw! Max is too busy ranting and raving to even notice. And if she does notice, we won’t know she did since she and her posts are scroll-over material!
The point of ABC / Disney backing Clinton might mean, don’t know for sure, that big corps. see her as more “business friendly” (i. e. more republican).
Also, it would explain all the Obama-baiting in the last debate.
Oh gee, McCain says he made a little over $400,000 last year — Yea, he released his far after Hillary, and we heard Nothing from the Reicvh Wing —
And you all remember how much of a Stink was made over John Kerry’s wife’s fortune — which was not included in Kerry’s taxes??
WELLLLLL…. Seems Cindy McCain is worth roughly $100,000,000! Again, not an issue for the Reich Wing??? Vey hypocritical. I SAY — Out Cindy’s money, and blame it on John-John!
If Max is scroll over material, why do you liberals keep posting in response to her posts?
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Nathaniel,
This liberal (that would be ME) doesn’t. It’s impossible to answer a question addressed to liberals since each one is a distinct person who thinks for him / herself.
Sorry, Kansas Farm Girl, I go every year for at least a month, and have for a decade. I’m going to the Dominican Republic this Christmas. What kind of tractor do you have?
Did Obama Give a ‘Flip’ Response to Clinton Attacks?
by FOXNews.com
Friday, April 18, 2008
Just when you thought the Democratic race couldn’t get uglier, Barack Obama is being accused of giving Hillary Clinton the finger at a town hall meeting in North Carolina.
The gesture — which may have been an innocent scratch of the face or, according to some, something more mischievous — came as Obama was complaining Thursday about the debate in Philadelphia the night before.
Bloggers were quick to note that as the Illinois senator scolded his Democratic rival for her performance at the debate, he raised his right hand and scratched his cheek with one finger. That finger.
“This is one of those political moments that really needs few words,” wrote the Los Angeles Times in a blog. “He’ll no doubt deny it later, but that mischievous smile seems to confirm plenty. And the crowd sure sees something.”
Obama’s Lead in National Poll Shrinks Following Debate
by FOXNews.com
Friday, April 18, 2008
A new national poll shows Barack Obama’s once-healthy lead shrinking to a hair’s width, suggesting his defensive performance at the Wednesday debate in Philadelphia may have hurt him.
Regular, had to leave so just now reading your new comments about the Rand study. I found the study on line and a free download is availble, if you are interested in reading it. As a supporter of the troops, I’m sure you would really want to get to the bottom of what is happening with our troops.
And…………..in one of your comments I read where you referred to your blog. I would be very interested in visiting it, if you are allowed to post it here.
My political/government blog is way outdated and after revising it last year I dumped a lot of archives, so it’s pretty empty.
Since I can make any kind of blog, my most active blogs are for my graphics works that I do. I’d rather not post them here though (for my own reasons and NDA type of things)
Is Hillary suffering from ED,(Excessive Dishonesty)
Spending Time Dreaming Up Stories?
Maybe she’s been taking ‘LIAGRA’
“I was shot at by snipers”
“I was for/no against NAFTA”
“Illegals should/no shouldn’t get drivers licenses”
“I didn’t know Bill was a cheater or even like cigars.”
“Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on 9/11″
“White Water????”
“Travelgate????”
“What Pardons????”
Yep…that’s what ‘LIAGRA’ will do for you!
Benefits:
1. Stronger, longer lasting fabrications
2. Tell lies faster with more enthusiasm
3. Removes all sense of remorse
4. Even believe your own made up stories
Warnings:
*Do not use product if you have a conscience
*The speed with which you can tell lies may exceed lung capacity, stop using if short of breath.
*Loss of vision (philosophically speaking)
*Expect loss of hearing (criticism)
*Antidote–exorcist
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Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
- Douglas Adams
Except Douglas Adams was wrong: learning from the experience of others is almost universal among mammals and birds.
Oh well; this mornin’s rave:
Notice how the entire U.S. is hysterical over five teen-age girls who are with child in that crazed texas religious compound story, but is falling over backwards to worship the pope.
How many thousands of very young women do you suppose were married in Catholic ceremonies world wide this year?
So here we have a guy running about the country in a white dress and a pointy hat followed by acolytes with red caps, all of them supported by the pennies of the poor. While the throwback Mormons are self-sufficient.
The two faiths obviously have one thing in common — unrestricted breeding, in a world bursting at the seams with people.
Someone should point out that the child abuse record in Texas foster homes is not exactly stain free. Being Texas, many foster families are Fundy Xians. Out of the frying pan into the fire?
(I once talked to a kid who was put in a Hays foster home where he was required to get down on his knees and blubber loud prayers every time an ambulance passed.)
I would wager that if these children were put into foster homes, the rate of sexual abuse of children would probably be about the same as would the average age of first sexual contact for females. The age of the first partner would no doubt decline. This in essence is what the fight is about.
The children’s health and diets would definately decline. But at least they’d be ‘Mericans.
They would be free to get knocked up in high school
Five teenage girls out of how many, a hundred maybe? Sounds like a lot lower number than our Wichita high schools. Maybe child protective services should raid the high schools taking them all into custody.
As ‘beber’ pointed out above, and is well worth repeating so as not to get lost, at least the Mormons are self-sufficient and not a tax burden on society when and after they have their babies.
This may or may not turn out to have been necessary, but I have an uncomfortable hunch it’s another example of the ‘authorities’ not liking a lifestyle they don’t understand so they stick their noses in it to force conformity to what they want.
Boxlick,
Yeah–burdening taxpayers is SO much worse than raping children.
“ELDORADO, Texas (CNN) — The 16-year-old girl whose phone calls led to a raid on a polygamist compound in Texas identified Dale Evans Barlow as the man who she said beat, choked and sexually assaulted her after their “spiritual marriage,” according to a court document unsealed Wednesday.
An affidavit says “Sarah,” 16, said Dale Evans Barlow, shown in 2005, beat her and forced her to have sex.
The affidavit, signed by Texas Ranger Leslie Brooks Long, also says a former member of the polygamist church told authorities details of the sect’s activities — including a bed inside the group’s temple that adult men used to have sex with underage girls immediately after wedding ceremonies.
After authorities raided the ranch late Thursday, the ranger “observed the bed within the temple that had disturbed bed linens and a strand of hair that appears to be from a female head.”
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/09/texas.ranch/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
Seriously, dude. The fact that your “uncomfortable hunch” leads you to preemptorily vindicate the cult and its activities toward children says a lot about you–too much, in fact.
“but I have an uncomfortable hunch it’s another example of the ‘authorities’ not liking a lifestyle they don’t understand so they stick their noses in it to force conformity to what they want.”
Sounds like the Marriage amendment. It also brings to mind folks who think every pregnancy is “a gift from God not to be trifled with”
I’m sorry. Wasn’t there a 911 call reporting spousal abuse at the ranch? I think that would tend to separate the long noses from the short and correctly directed.
“…not a tax burden on society when and after they have their babies.”
Considering much of their money comes from government contracts I am not so sure about the term “self-sufficient”.
As I said, “This may or may not turn out to have been necessary…, and if those things turn out to be true I’m glad there was intervention. The last I read they hadn’t even found the girl that made the call.
John McCain’s latest effort to bribe the American people to vote for him is pandering at its finest. As The Atlantic notes in “McCainomics”:
McCain’s speech reads like an attempt to unify a divided party by offering every faction something to make them happy.
This is quite a departure from the “straight talk express”. He itemized a list of populist economic positions for the sole purpose of gaining more votes in an election year. The belief is that no one will consider the feasibility of transforming this vote bribery into actual law. As we mentioned in the past McCain is a chameleon. He is a political opportunist and not much more. He is the GOP’s answer to Bill Clinton. He is representative of the fact that there is little difference between the two major parties.
Contrary to belief, there is another Republican still in the race who is everything John McCain isn’t. And that is a very good thing. Ron Paul is incapable of pandering. Ron Paul won’t propose policy for the purpose of winning votes. He will (and does) propose policy that preserves and protects the Constitution. By doing so he not only keeps his oath of office, but he protects the American people. For some reason this has become the exception rather than the norm in politics today.
American politics is an STD: A special-interest transmitted disease. As newly elected officials enter their white buildings they slowly become what they once despised. The lure is too great. They transform from well-meaning ideologues into puppets and “Talking Heads”. Indeed, a few wake up every now and then and say to themselves, “how did I get here?”. But far too few do.
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By SCOTT MICHELS and CHRIS CUOMO, ABC News
SAN ANGELO, Texas, April 17, 2008
“Where is the 16 year Old Polygamist Victim?
Experts say Texas polygamy case may unravel if girls is not found.
Among the hundreds of children, lawyers and caseworkers involved in an unprecedented child custody hearing, one person will be noticeably absent — the 16-year-old girl whose call for help set in motion the largest child protection case in U.S. history.
Texas authorities say they have not located or identified the girl, though they have said they believe she is among the 416 children from a polygamous sect who were taken into state custody nearly two weeks ago.
Some people are now questioning whether she exists at all.”
Maybe she’s dead.
Or
“she is among the 416 children from a polygamous sect who were taken into state custody nearly two weeks ago.”
Maybe she is scared out of her wits.
She may have lived all her life in a faith that teaches her that she will be condemned to hell if she dare raise her voice or ask a question.
How many thousands of very young women do you suppose were married in Catholic ceremonies world wide this year?
I’d like a citation, please. I did a search and could only find references to places like Pakistan, india, and even Egypt where arranged marriages were enacted by the couple living with their parents until puberty. And they weren’t Catholic. And however much you hate Catholics, for whatever reason, it must really get in your craw that it was the first christian religion.
Boxlock, the women are demanded by their husbands to go get on public assistance, because technically they’re single mothers.
Now you say what again?
They also kick their boys out to make more marryable girls for the men.
Then there is this gem.
JESSOP: Well, you know, it was from multiple levels. Merrill did a form of water torture on babies, and it was a method he called breaking them, where he would take the baby and spank them until they were screaming out of control, and then he would hold the baby face up under a tap of running water for a minute, maybe as long as a minute, and then he`d take a baby out, spank them again and then the process would just repeat. He`d do this until the baby was just so exhausted, it couldn`t fight anymore. He called it breaking them. And what the method was behind it was to instill an extreme level of fear for their father, but do it at an age that they wouldn`t remember the process that was used to instill that fear.
GRACE: What would the wives do as he did this to their babies?
JESSOP: You know, he did it to my oldest son, and I still can`t talk about it without crying. I witnessed it. I was terrified of him. I was still a — I mean, I was in my — I had barely turned 20. I was pregnant, with morning sickness and incredibly ill with my second baby. And I didn`t dare to say anything. I was afraid he would be worse and hurt my baby worse. But after that one episode, he never did it in front of me again. But I`m aware, you know, since then, from things that people have told me, that he did it with several of my babies. He just never did it in front of me again.
GRACE: Let me ask you, where are your children now?
JESSOP: I have all of them with me except for my oldest daughter. She — the FLDS are experts in breaking down relationships between children and their mother. And I had to have professional help with this problem when I left to reestablish relationship with my children. I never was able to with my oldest daughter.
That was from Nancy Grace.
Maybe? Maybe? Maybe? What kind of answer is that when 461 children are rounded up and taken from their parents?
Notice the date of CF2..whatever’s information above, it’s old.
Friday, April 18, 2008
Texas cult case: Where’s Sarah?
A week ago, Rusty Shackleford said of the Texas polygamy cult case:
“From the beginning my ’something not right about the way this is being reported’ detector has been going off.
Rusty may be onto something. Remember 16-year-old “Sarah”? Nearly two weeks after the raid, Texas officials say they still haven’t found her:
“In good faith?” Remember, this hearing is about the state of Texas seeking custody of all 461 children from the FLDS cult. The case began with this one allegation of abuse, the state has failed even to locate the person who made the allegation, and yet hundreds of children are in danger of being taken from their parents?
As Rusty said, it’s the way the media is reporting the case that causes suspicion. The media has tried to portray this as a “children endangered” case, repeating Texas officials’ claims that girls were “spiritually married” as soon as they reached puberty. But if there is any actual evidence of that, it didn’t come out in the first day of court hearings:
” but where’s the evidence? If the state can produce actual evidence of pregnant 13- and 14-year-olds — and obstetric examinations could determine that very easily –then they’ve got a serious case. So far, though, there has been no report of any such evidence. So far as can be determined from this CNN/AP story, they’ve found one 16-year-old with a baby, but if every pregnant 16-year-old in Texas is cause for a paramilitary raid, they’re going to need more SWAT teams.
Statutory rape and polygamy are both against the law, and FLDS members may be charged with either crime. But lurid tales of young virgins forcibly raped in temple rituals by their “spiritual” husbands as soon as the girls reached menarche? Sounds like media hype to me.
As I said, if there is abuse…prosecute, but they better have more than this or it’s abuse by government.
Catholics in Mexico believe that if a man rapes a girl, she must marry him.
That’s just as bad.
“the women are demanded by their husbands to go get on public assistance, because technically they’re single mothers.”
Political_mama, if that’s the case then take APPROPRIATE action to stop the welfare abuse.
Also you say, “They also kick their boys out to make more marryable girls for the men.” I say if that’s true, at what age. That happens frequently with young men ‘of age’.
Listen, I’m not defending them if they’ve done something wrong. And if the stories we are hearing are true, and are as bad as indicated by some as far as abuse, then prosecute them, hell hang um. But this was a rush to judgment by the authorities that need to respect individual, and group, liberties.
“She may have lived all her life in a faith that teaches her that she will be condemned to hell if she dare raise her voice or ask a question.” Blue Jay.
How is that any different than the rest of them?
Catholics in Mexico believe that if a man rapes a girl, she must marry him. — P.M.
Actually, p.m., it’s the other way around. Generally, if a man impregnates a woman, he must marry her, as she is otherwise dishonored, as is he. That’s fairly archaic, though, even in Mexico. Have you ever been to Mexico. Read a book about Mexico. Studied Mexican literature?
Oy, in lockstep with Boxlock. My Gawd; I could be a Republican. The horror, the horror.
“Boxlock, the women are demanded by their husbands to go get on public assistance, because technically they’re single mothers.” — P.M.
Stop watching Fox, p.m., swear off Nancy Grace.
“How is that any different than the rest of them?”
Other faiths you mean.
In belief, not a great deal different.
See political mama’s post at 8:43 as to practice.
I think it is fair to assume we have a couple of posters here who regard women as a lower form of human being. There other posts here speak volumes about them and their character.
Another Damned Drug War Death
Radley Balko | January 29, 2007, 8:46am
Add 81-year-old Isaac Singletary to your list of wrongful drug war victims.
Police were apparently conducting an undercover drug investigation when Singletary asked them to leave his property. They didn’t. So he asked again, this time with a handgun.
And that was the end of Isaac Singletary.
Whether or not he had reason to know the men on his lawn were police is still under investigation. It seems unlikely. The officers were undercover. And neighbors and relatives say Singletary was protective of his property precisely because of the drug activity in the area.
It’s the third shooting involving the Jacksonville, Fla. sheriff’s office in three weeks, causing local state’s attorney Harry Shorstein to ponder, “If we’re just selling drugs to addicts, I don’t know what we’re accomplishing.”
Shame that it takes a pile of bodies to come to that realization.
“…not a tax burden on society when and after they have their babies.”
Ah, yes. Another member of the pro-life movement speaks. Good job, Boxlock.
Are you paying for polygamy?
“…because the laws in this country only recognize one of their multiple marriages as legal, the other wives are apparently claiming to be single moms struggling to care for a house full of dependents. This makes them eligible for government aid, and lots of it. They are on welfare and you are footing the bill!”
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/09/randi-kaye-are-you-paying-for-polygamy/
A FREAKIN men. Bout damn time
No Bases for Empire: International Activists Organize Against U.S. Foreign Bases in Their Backyards
It sounds like a fast-food franchise—hundreds of locations spanning some 130 countries across the globe. But in fact, it’s perhaps the ultimate face of U.S. hegemony: military bases. There are more than 700 U.S. military bases worldwide, used for launching wars, holding prisoners and testing weapons. One could be closing down in Ecuador, where lawmakers recently approved a ban on foreign bases. Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa has famously quipped that he’ll let the U.S. military remain if the U.S. agrees to an Ecuadorian military base in Miami.
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Report: 300,000 Iraq & Afghan Vets Suffer PTSD & Depression
300,000 US troops who served in Iraq and Afghanistan are suffering from major depression or post-traumatic stress disorder. This, according to a new study by the RAND Corporation. Researchers say nearly 20 percent of the troops who served in the war zones are suffering PTSD and depression, but only half of them have sought treatment. RAND researcher Terri Tanielian said, “Unless they receive appropriate and effective care for these mental health conditions, there will be long-term consequences for them and for the nation.” The study also estimates that 320,000 service members had experienced a possible traumatic brain injury while deployed. Researchers say female soldiers and reservists had the highest rates of post-traumatic stress disorder and major depression. Meanwhile, in Texas, the Dallas VA Medical Center has been forced to close its psychiatric ward to new patients after the suicides of four veterans this year.
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To all the pro-war people, justify this. Justify the torment of these troops. This doesn’t even cover their families. Look at the devastation this idiotic war has wreaked on our soldiers.
You pro-war types say that you support the troops. You support the troops and want to keep putting them through this. That is an oxymoron. You support their torment. Nice job.
Think about the cost of treating these troops long term. How many of them will receive treatment and still not recover? Pro war folks don’t support the troops; they support the troop’s demise. No, you want to know what an ‘Un-American’ is? It is one who supports the continued devastation of our troops for oil that will never materialize. How American of you.
US to Release Iraqi Prisoners, Teach Them About Islam
The Wall Street Journal reports US commanders in Iraq have begun releasing hundreds of Iraqi prisoners after concluding the military’s detention policy might be harming US goals in Iraq [ya THINK???]. The US is currently holding about 23,000 Iraqis, many without charge. The US military has begun building a pair of large halfway houses in Taji and Ramadi, where detainees will undergo vocational training. The Wall Street Journal reports the US military also plans to teach religious courses [THAT should work out well.] to the former prisoners about how to be a moderate Muslim. Imams will be brought in by the military to teach courses that highlight the Islamic precepts that bar the killing of innocents and offer alternative interpretations of jihad.
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I’d read several children had identified a female meeting the callers description, on their campus. She may have been brough in, consecrated in the temple, and moved out. Who Knows, she may have been found out and ‘chastised’.
Those horney old bastids couldn’t even wait to get them home and had to set up a ‘marriage bed’ in the temple!
Can you believe this crap…
GOP Rep.: Revoke Jimmy Carter’s passport for Hamas visits
Nick Langewis and David Edwards
Published: Thursday April 17, 2008
He’s just unilaterally going off on his own and undermining everything the international community and the United States is (sic) trying to do,” protested Republican U.S. House Rep. Sue Myrick (NC-09) today in the call to revoke the passport of former president Jimmy Carter.
Myrick also wants taxpayer funds to the Carter Center, which conducts humanitarian efforts worldwide, severed. “Why,” the lawmaker asks, “should we support his center when he will not support his government?”
“Frankly,” the lawmaker said, “I wanted to send a strong message, because we have a policy in this country about Hamas, and he is just deliberately undermining that policy, and it’s wrong.
“You know, Hamas has continually stood for terrorism against peace, and the State Department, the administration [and] Israel all opposed him going over there to meet.”
Hamas has been designated as a terrorist organization by the United States, Canada, Israel and Japan.
“Any side that kills innocent people guilty of terrorism,” President Carter, author of Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid, told an audience at Cairo’s American University, following visits with Hamas officials and Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. He was responding to a student that told him that he was legitimizing terrorists by speaking with Hamas leaders.
Mercy — how eager some are to exonerate this Mormon (Ahem) Cult — Why dont we jusst caalll them whaat they are? A bunch of religious sex fanatics!
My kinda gal.
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Colbert-Clinton.mov
Interesting statistics there Sol, care to back them up with real numbers?
My nephew is out of the Army with 100 percent disability, PSTD, shrapnel wounds, exposed to several road-side bombs and other conditions which I won’t describe here.
I’m curious how that number was derived. 300,000 is a lot, especially considering there are not that many troops now or in the past in Iraq. Even considering rotations, not every troop is exposed to hostile fire and certainly not all to road side bombs.
I would like to know where your story got those statistics.
Regular, http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080417/ts_alt_afp/usiraqafghanistanmilitaryhealth
Regular,
Did you read the story?
This, according to a new study by the RAND Corporation.
And it is PTSD.
Regular,
The google is a wonderful thing…
Since October 2001, approximately 1.64 million U.S. troops have been deployed for Operations Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom (OEF/OIF) in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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Kinda like using facts instead of pulling things out of your fourth point of contact.
300,000 is a lot, especially considering there are not that many troops now or in the past in Iraq.
Rand Corporation is a pro-military organization; not a bunch of “lefties”
I know how it’s spelled sol, it was a typo. You can climb down from your high horse now.
The findings were extrapolated from a survey of 1,926 recently returned service members from across the military services. The sample was designed to represent the 1.6 million troops who have deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan since 2002.
Yeah okay, this is the same method that was used by that highly rated Statistical team that said 600,000 Iraqi Civilians had been killed when they surveyed 1000 civilians.
Sorry, not buying it. I call B.S.
Yeah you’re right, the RAND Corporation is ever so known for flawed studies. Guess that is why they do so well and are still around.
Typical pro-war arguments. Don’t like the message, attack the source. Got absolutely nothing to back it up with, but yeah, it is trash.
And as for the high horse, morally, you will forever look up to me as I will never wallow in the filth you so enjoy.
“The RAND Corporation (Research ANd Development[1]) is a nonprofit global policy think tank first formed to offer research and analysis to the United States armed forces. The organization has since expanded to working with other governments, private foundations, international organizations, and commercial ”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAND
Hmmm.
Looks like you whiffed again scooter.
“Since October 2001, approximately 1.64 million U.S. troops have been deployed for Operations Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom (OEF/OIF) in Afghanistan and Iraq. ”
A little ommission there, They’re in large part,The Same Troops!
It is hard to believe Dave! So much has been hard to believe over the past seven plus years.
“May we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion”
“Every gun that’s made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms…is spending the genius of its scientists, the sweat of its laborers,”
Eisenhower
Wonder if a pedophile might be inclined to join just such a cult?
Sol, examine statement carefully.
“The findings were extrapolated from a survey of 1,926 recently returned service members from across the military services. The sample was designed to represent the 1.6 million troops who have deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan since 2002.”
It is inherently flawed.
For one 1.6 million troops include all types, including those not near, in or part of contact with hostiles or a even a chance to get TBI.
- That’s part of the extrapolation mistake.
Secondly, one does not equate clinical diagnosis to patients never examined.
Thirdly, and as far as I know (from all the tests my nephew had to take) Traumatic Brain Injury has to be diagnosed through several complicated test over a period of time. How is it Rand Corporation did this without touching a MRI, X-Ray or even a stethoscope?
As I said before, I call B.S.
I believe you are wrong with how the figure of 600,000 dead was arrived at.
R7ZgGRS2_Bz9LXSKJsg43vQ_20071010.html
Perhaps I am wrong about how the 600,000 figure was derived kscitydude, but the erroneous results achieved by the statistical survey is still an error.
At the time of that erroneous report, the Iraqi government and the U.S. Military had concluded that about 60,000 had been killed (iraqi civilians)
Exploding that to 10 times the amount is almost funny, if it wasn’t so tragic.
I called B.S. on that study as well and was later confirmed as being correct in doing so.
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Editors, I am sick of this crap popping up all the time. Surely you are not powerless to stop it. I’m sure that some young people occasionally pop in and are exposed to this garbage.
IT IS TOTALLY CLASSLESS TO ALLOW IT ON YOUR BLOG.
It’s their trackbacks outlander. It’s why I don’t allow them on my blog.
IIRC, it was Zogby, not RAND who came up with the 600,000 figure. They sstood by their numbers AT THAT TIME. Maybe you want to check out Zogby.
Got a merger consult. Back later!
What is a trackback?
I can see them at the bottom of some threads but I don’t understand what they are. Anyone?
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Some more for our enjoyment. Thanks Editors. Again;
IT IS TOTALLY CLASSLESS TO ALLOW IT ON YOUR BLOG.
Reg; your blog is looking better all the time as an alternative.
“…because the laws in this country only recognize one of their multiple marriages as legal, the other wives are apparently claiming to be single moms struggling to care for a house full of dependents. This makes them eligible for government aid, and lots of it. They are on welfare and you are footing the bill!”
Lindalaikes correctly quotes this (“http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/09/randi-kaye-are-you-paying-for-polygamy/) CNN story, but fails to mention it is mealy-mouthed bullshit. Any reporter could determine instantly if the Reform Mormons in Texas are milking wellfare by comparing wellfare expinditures in the county in which the temple is located with those before it located there.
Note how the journalist qualified the lead:
“I hope you have some extra cash lying around because Warren Jeffs and his polygamist sect may be dipping into your wallet.”
In other words what he is reporting is it is possible that the sect is milking the system, but he doesn’t know one way or the other.
I may have had sex with Linsey Lohan, according to sources.
Now how credible is that?
How about the next time we get the porno link trackbacks, we copy it and send it to Brownlee’s email? I’m gonna do it. If several do it, it will get his attention.
A total of 1,965 individuals responded.
Results showed that
• 18.5% of all returning servicemembers meet criteria for
either PTSD or depression (see Figure 1); 14% of returning
servicemembers currently meet criteria for PTSD,
and 14% meet criteria for depression (numbers
not shown in Figure 1).
• 19.5% reported experiencing a probable TBI during
deployment (see Figure 1).
• About 7% meet criteria for a mental health problem and
also report a possible TBI.
Link
These numbers make you feel better?
How about these numbers?
About 1.4 million troops have served in Iraq or Afghanistan, and more than 205,000 have sought care from the veterans’ agency, according to the government.
Link
The number of troops who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan recently passed 1.5 million early this year.
Link
• VA hospitals, where Iraq and Afghanistan veterans have been screened for combat brain injuries since April. The VA found about 20% of 61,285 surveyed — or 11,804 veterans — with signs of brain injury, spokeswoman Alison Aikele says. VA doctors say more evaluation is necessary before a true diagnosis of brain injury can be confirmed in all these cases, Aikele says.
Link
Maybe we should all just read the 500 page study that Rand put out. By reading a small summary by a couple of reporters, we all might be not getting a clear picture.
Here is another article I found about this when I went to the armytimes.com:
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/04/ap_mental_041708/
VA hospitals, where Iraq and Afghanistan veterans have been screened for combat brain injuries since April. The VA found about 20% of 61,285 surveyed — or 11,804 veterans
Yes Sol, that sounds more like the numbers expected to occur under proper clinically diagnosed scenarios.
That’s the point I was attempting to make. Diagnosis from statistics partially extrapolated out of a complex report by Rand, may have been literally and deliberately misinterpreted by some glory seeking reporters.
Common sense told me otherwise as you have just confirmed.
Thanks for the second look at the problem Sol.
Oh btw, just from your one paragraph:
About 1.4 million troops have served in Iraq or Afghanistan, and more than 205,000 have sought care from the veterans’ agency, according to the government.
The 300,000 number hasn’t even been reached by clinical visits of returning veterans. That number all by itself should have set alarm bells off in your head.
Hmmm, the Army Times is running the same story I linked to. Looks like your “source is crap” argument just fell under the bus.
From the KCDude link
• About 19 percent, or 320,000 service members, reported that they experienced a possible traumatic brain injury while deployed. In wars where blasts from roadside bombs are prevalent, the injuries can range from mild concussions to severe head wounds.
• About 7 percent reported a probable brain injury and current PTSD or major depression.
• Only 43 percent reported ever having been evaluated by a physician for their head injuries.
• Only 53 percent of service members with PTSD or depression sought help during the past year.
• They gave various reasons for not getting help, including that they worried about the side effects of medication; believe family and friends could help them with the problem; or that they feared seeking care might damage their careers.
• Rates of PTSD and major depression were highest among women and reservists.
so are you stating that the Army times would run a story and “literally and deliberately misinterpreted ” it?
Again Sol, you are using a flat number with no break down of what actually is reality.
When you admit your error, I’ll be here.
Until then, try not to hang your hat on raw numbers that stand outside of factual context.
lindainks55,
I just keep wondering, what happen to the America we grew up in? Is it gone forever? or was it ever really here?
What I see and hear theses days makes me long for those days of innocence.
I haven’t made an error to apologize for. I am restating what RAND (as hired by the military to do) reported.
19% of service members, reported that they experienced a possible traumatic brain injury while deployed. In wars where blasts from roadside bombs are prevalent, the injuries can range from mild concussions to severe head wounds.
About 7 percent reported a probable brain injury and current PTSD or major depression.
• Only 43 percent reported ever having been evaluated by a physician for their head injuries.
• Only 53 percent of service members with PTSD or depression sought help during the past year.
The above are hard numbers. % of those questioned. So let’s hear how you refute these numbers.
Remember – RAND, hired by the Dod. Army Times ran the same story…
Sorry Regular about the bad web site info. I’ll try it again. I, for one, think we will never know the correct death count of Iraqis.
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/
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If this does not post correctly google:
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“I just keep wondering, what happen to the America we grew up in? Is it gone forever? or was it ever really here? — Greatful Dave.
I read one study which concluded that the average age of first sexual experience hasn’t changed in the USA since the 1940s. Remember, in computing this statistic, age of marriage is irrelevant.
At any rate, Linda’s link to the CNN story regarding Reformed Mormons on welfare made me realize how when Fox set a new low bar for journalism, other providers had to follow in order to maintain ratings. Could you imagine Beck or Grace on CNN pre-Fox?
What this tells us about our country is that the common denominator is pretty low. All our troubles aren’t due to Bush, to the Democrats or the Republicans; they have all been caused by us.
Sorry, not buying it. I call B.S.
funny, he still buys the study of WMDs and not having a clue about flying airplanes into buildings. I’ll see your Rand Corp., Reg and raise you two Kindaliesalot Rices!
To state he obvious, inferential statistics makes inferences about a population based upon a sample.
The Rand study used a random sampling technique:
http://rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/2008/RAND_RB9336.pdf
To say that the sample was unrepresentative because soldiers without direct combat experience were over-sampled, makes the logical error by way of an unstated assertion that one would not be at risk for PTSD unless one had direct combat experience. Experience from Viet Nam and the rate of PTSD among medical personnel would tend to dispute that underlying assumption.
“Someone should point out that the child abuse record in Texas foster homes is not exactly stain free.”
Someone should point out to Berber the Muddle-Headed that two wrongs do not make a right.
Because some children may have been abused in the foster-care system, it’s alright for others to be systematically abused by a religious cult?
Berber imagines himself sitting on a throne fanned with peacock feathers wielded by virginal maidens.
Grow up, fascist.
Dorking, I know we ALL gathered from your statements months ago that you’re a proponent of child rape, so your opinion matters to me as much as the freakshows down there that are being tried.
I get my information from many sources. There are many cultural beliefs among mexicans that frankly should be addressed by the Catholic church. It is NOT the other way around, why do you find so many girls being molested and raped by illegal immigrants? It’s because they don’t take this seriously there.
Its also why they had to finally give up on keeping abortion illegal in Mexico.
women should not be property or a conquest in any culture. US or not. We’re not someone’s slaves. That polygamist camp is notorious for this kind of abuse of women and children, it’s all about dominance.
Yes Steven Davis, but EMT’s and Emergency Room Personnel also suffer from PTSD. High stress situations often lead to future mental anomalies.
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Amusing Fish, however, the nature of some WMD’s such as biologicals degrade over time as to not give any clue of their existence. At least, not outside of normal background noise.
You are most likely familiar with the term half-life. Actually, all things, including biologicals have their own types of half-lives.
This means if you go looking for stuff where it was once stored, you may find unexpected results. That is very little trace, no detectable trace or traces that are meaningless because they are overwhelmed by the environmental background noise.
I used to inspect underground shelters (storm and Civil Defense.) It was always curious to me to find bottles of aspirin completely turned to powder and virtually useless, as the components, salicylic acid had completely broken down the constituent parts. The fillers are often more susceptible to decay that the main active ingredient.
Chemical WMD’s are even more volatile. Perhaps Ben, a trained Chemist wants to explain that. But let’s just say that chemicals used in warfare are not only inherently unstable, the containers that hold are more than likely to leak out the chemical over time, especially if they are poorly constructed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gqaw5UnHA4&eurl=http://condimustgo.com/
See Robert Greenwald’s film clip “Condi Must Go!”
The current Secr’y of State okayed torture and then lied about it under oath.
Thank you for posting this information, Sol:
“There are more than 700 U.S. military bases worldwide, used for launching wars, holding prisoners and testing weapons.”
I said something to that effect and Nathan jumped down my throat.
It’s true that there are so many US bases around the world that even the US military may not have an accurate count of them. But the known bases are over 700, just as I said.
Ahem — Then, ummm if they are so degraded as to be of no use, then they are as good as not even being there… Thus, no WMD’s, right??
Good lord, Full moon has to be getting close again!!
And Beber/doorking… if you like sex with young girls so much, that compound in TX must sound like heaven on earth to you!! LOL
CapN - dont wait up for an apology — you will just get overwhelmed by sleep deprivation!!
CapnAmerica,
I didn’t jump down your throat because of the information you posted about the number of bases.
It was the FALSE claim you made that KBR was the main supplier for all of them.
A Claim you never came back to own up to being wrong I might add.
So I find it rather funny that you sit here still not knowing what it was I actually said.
Have a good weekend chas/double colon. Two colons, same a$$hole…
I pulled this from a blog I read. I thought it was well written and deserved to be shared:
On Kudlow and Company today I saw someone try to argue inflation as good for the economy cause it keeps prices from rising due to loss of purchasing power. My jaw hit the floor when I heard this, afterwards another commentator said America will be able to afford luxury items as long as the Fed keeps lower interesting rates and printing dollars to meet the demand… at this point my jaw dropped to the floor ripped off my skull.
So first let’s explore the first statement and break it down:
“Inflation is good for the economy”
First off a weaker dollar hurts everyone. Here’s How:
-Prices on food, gas another necessities go up while wages lose purchasing power faster than they rise.
- This decreases the labor supply for many small companies that can’t afford to increase their wages to keep up with increase need for higher wages to keep the same standard of living, in the meanwhile their purchasing power is dropping with their productivity.
- imports increase in cost, increasing the cost of a lot of electronics, and the cost of materials used to make domestic goods in effect increasing domestic prices further.
- The increased purchasing power of other nations creates higher levels of ownership of the US economy by foreign nations, which will in the long term effect US sovereignty.
etc. etc. etc.
But the statement in question has another section that deserves scrutiny.
“the decreased purchasing power pushes luxury prices down”
To Be fair, this statement is partly correct but the implication of this reality isn’t something to be optimistic about. The way this happens is that since a persons ability to afford necessities becomes so tight that many have to forgo luxury items, so things like IPODs and Guitars would have either drop prices to even out demand or increase the prices and charge a premium to the elite few who have the discretionary funds to buy these items.
So what does this mean?
- Gas and Good prices have gone up so they have to cut spending on leisure, this is not a good economic indicator for anyone unless your planning to sell Apple. Luckily, there is the Chinese market.
- With less demand for these kind of items you’ll see less variety, which will result in less innovation from competitive pressure which slows the progress of society.
Now to go on to the second statement…
“The economy will be fine if the Federal Reserve continues to print money and lower interest rates”
No and No
Against Printing Cash:
When you have more of something, it becomes worth less thus the law of supply and demand. More money means it’ll be worth less, and you have the economic effects above. This primarily effects the middle class and below who’s economic world is primarily domestic. More wealthy people are suffering losses in their investments in the housing sector and many luxury items may hurt in the long term if this continues but at least these people usually have safety nets of foreign investments that are in some places less volatile than the US currently.
Against Lower Interest Rates:
I’m not against interest rates going down or up, but the federal reserve does this by manipulating the money supply which is essentially shifting the value of peoples assets in an indirect re-distribution of the nations wealth which is ridiculously immoral no matter which way you shift the interest rate.
Like if you and I both had a glass but yours was filled with water so I poured half of your water in my glass, while I didn’t take your glass I did steal half the value from your glass. This is the effect of lower interest rates artificially.
Or if 10 people had glasses 1/10th full so I took all their water and put it in one cup. This would simulate the effect of artificially raising interest rates.
either way this manipulation of the value of the dollar shifts wealth. The answer is to let the market decide interest rates by ending the borrowing of money from the discount window so Banks must practice smart and safe banking.
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Ahem — Then, ummm if they are so degraded as to be of no use, then they are as good as not even being there… Thus, no WMD’s, right??
Good lord, Full moon has to be getting close again!!
And Beber/doorking… if you like sex with young girls so much, that compound in TX must sound like heaven on earth to you!! LOL
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You and Chas must have attended the same school of “can’t see past the end of my nose logic.”
Regliar writes: “I’m curious how that number [of wounded in Iraq] was derived. 300,000 is a lot, especially considering there are not that many troops now or in the past in Iraq.”
KCDude links to an article the headline of which reads “PTSD, depression afflict 300,000 Iraq, Afghan war vets: study” and Sol smacks him down with this: “Since October 2001, approximately 1.64 million U.S. troops have been deployed for Operations Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom (OEF/OIF) in Afghanistan and Iraq.”
But ReguLIAR insists he is not wrong. No he’s not wrong.
Then he himself posts this: “The VA found about 20% of 61,285 surveyed — or 11,804 veterans.”
Hey, Jeenyous, what is 20 percent of 1.6 million? Oh, sh!t, it’s 320,000, exactly what the study in question said it was.
All CONs are not as dumb as ReguLIAR. But all dumb people are CONs.
Its also why they had to finally give up on keeping abortion illegal in Mexico.
–p.m.
Abortion is not legal in Mexico, it is legal in the federal district of Mexico. Read a book, bitch.
A reasonable and mature person would respond at this point that the evidence is overwhelming that he was wrong.
But ReguLIAR is not a reasonable and mature person.
And he’ll prove it with his next post.
Hey, Berber, you little bitch.
Looks like Mr. Tough Guy likes to pick on women.
I can’t abide that, you dickhead.
Good observation,
‘What this tells us about our country is that the common denominator is pretty low. All our troubles aren’t due to Bush, to the Democrats or the Republicans; they have all been caused by us.”
Here’s where the concept for fox news came from,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08
Policial Mama,
Please show me where Catholics in Mexico believe that if a man rapes a girl she must marry him.
CapnAmerica,
You are one of the biggest tin-foil hat wearing people on this website who believes some really wierd crap regardless of the evidence…
Pot meet kettle.
Sol, I dont believe I have seen any postings from Chas today. You must need your vision checked, unless you are normally this stupid. I also dont see any posts from this double colon you make reference to. See, your Editors mqde me use my full “handle” with their new Sign In system, which seems to work very well, for the time being.
Regular - YOU told us about the breakdown of the substances, thus leaving what might once have been a WMD, worthless. Whatever high horse you rode in on, why dont you ride out on it as well.
I lived in the border town of Laredo for two years, and had a Mexican girlfriend at the time . . . if you can call chapeoned dates with the girl’s mother having a girlfriend.
I never heard anyone say that directly, but it sounds about par: Men are dogs and it’s the woman’s job to keep them in line. If he goes too far, it’s her fault for letting him.
Sol and the rest of you.
I tell you I know Chas personally. Square Peg is not Chas.
Stop annoying the guy.
I thought Right Angle was Reguliar. BTH told me it wasn’t. I was wrong about that. I admit it.
Let it go.
Sure, you betcha, Nathan.
Go smash some fossils why don’t you?
That way the devil won’t be able to fool people with them . . .
“Here’s where the concept for fox news came from”
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Mob rule, mass hysteria, group mind.
Yep, the common denominator is pretty low.
CapnAmerica,
Your beliefs don’t fly any less in the face of science than mine do.
Of course, I doubt you will ever see the irony in that though.
CraponAmerica writes:
Then he himself posts this: “The VA found about 20% of 61,285 surveyed — or 11,804 veterans.”
Hey, Jeenyous, what is 20 percent of 1.6 million? Oh, sh!t, it’s 320,000, exactly what the study in question said it was.
All CONs are not as dumb as ReguLIAR. But all dumb people are CONs
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Please tell me you’re not that stupid.
Please show me some sign of intelligence that you know better than to cook a set of numbers from another set of completely different numbers.
Please tell me you know the difference between “clinically diagnosed” and “surveyed.”
Come on Crapn, help yourself out here, you are making yourself look stupid to your Lib Progressive friends.
“why do you find so many girls being molested and raped by illegal immigrants?” — p.m.
Because there are a lot of illegal immigrants so there are bound to be a lot of girls molested by them. However, I doubt seriously the rate at which girls are molested in Mexico, or in the U.S. by people of Mexican/Central American descent is any higher than the rate at which white people molest young girls. The vast majority of girls who are molested are molested by their relatives or acquaintances of the family. You know that.
Also, despite the low age of consent in Mexico, I wouldn’t be molesting any young girls there. The punishment is often being beaten to death on a public street by a mob. I’ve seen it many times on television, and read of many instances of such “justice” in the newspapers. By practically stating that it is accepted, you are only restating my contention that you are an ignorant, vicious bitch.
“You are one of the biggest tin-foil hat wearing people on this website who believes some really wierd crap regardless of the evidence…”
You didn’t really say that now, did you?
Upthread, I predicted that ReguLIAR would prove his unreasonableness and immaturity in his next thread.
Here’s his next thread: “Come on Crapn, help yourself out here, you are making yourself look stupid to your Lib Progressive friends.”
Yup. As predictable as clockwork.
There is absolutely no conflict between my religious views and my scientific views.
Believing that the earth is only 10 thousand years old because ‘the Bible says so’ would be a clear contradiction with scientific evidence.
Yeah Crapn, perhaps it was this statement from you.
Hey, Jeenyous, what is 20 percent of 1.6 million? Oh, sh!t, it’s 320,000, exactly what the study in question said it was.
All CONs are not as dumb as ReguLIAR. But all dumb people are CONs
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Live by the smartass comment Crapn, die by the smartass comment.
(chortles)
CapnAmerica,
There is absolutely no conflict between my religious views and my scientific views either!
Look, we have found some common ground.
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Posted April 18, 2008 at 1:41 pm | Permalink
Sol and the rest of you.
I tell you I know Chas personally. Square Peg is not Chas.
Stop annoying the guy.
I thought Right Angle was Reguliar. BTH told me it wasn’t. I was wrong about that. I admit it.
Let it go.
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Do you occasionally swaps socks and underwear with Chas?
If you don’t know SquarePeg, why are you vouching or a person unknown?
Appears to be a porous claim.
“You are most likely familiar with the term half-life. Actually, all things, including biologicals have their own types of half-lives” — Regular.
This the the height of cheek. Remember before the war when so many rational people argued that Saddam could not have biological or chemical weapons because of the half-life argument? It was essentially one of Scott Ritter’s main points. Now, reversed, it is an excuse as to why we did not find WMD in Iraq. I doubt seriously whether this is original thought from Regular, as he is often too busy diddling his nieces to do his own thinking.
I know Chas would not make up sock-puppet nics and not admit to it.
End of story.
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M3/C00431569/A_EMPLOYER_C00431569.html
Isn’t that interesting.
ABC News gave almost 6,000 dollars to the Clinton campaign.
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“ABC News gave almost 6,000 dollars to the Clinton campaign” — cappy.
Cappy’s site says ABC news gave $55 to the clinton campaign
Isn’t that interesting?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-418/#comment-333372
All the major news networks were listed as donating money to the Clinton Campaign and CapnAmerica only highlighted that ABC news did.
Makes you go hmmmmmm?
Isn’t that amazing; the ho ho express and haliburton contributed to the McCain campaign.
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M3/C00430470/A_EMPLOYER_C00430470.html
Just to be clear, it would appear to me that the Rand study used methodology consistent with that which is usually employed in the psychiatric epidemiology discipline.
I am not aware of any recent studies where cases were identified by diagnostic interview. The cost of such would be prohibitive and the benefits, over the survey method, seldom worth the greater expence.
ABC NEWS 55.00
ABC STAFFING 337.15
ABC STUDIOS 2,450.00
ABC TV NETWORK 250.00
ABC, INC. 250.00
ABC-TV 2,300.00
ABC/TV 300.00
Put on your glasses, Berber.
Outlander and I don’t agree much, but you’re right on this one.
I thought the whole idea of registration was that The Eagle can stop this kind of spam.
Somebody’s not making the effort is what it looks like to me.
ABC News is not ABC, idiot.
ABC (all) and ESPN (all) are controlled by The Walt Disney Company.
Say it aint so Linda!! Max will have to give ups mickey mouse club ears now Mickey is a Democrat!!! Yikes!!
CapnAmerica,
Before this gets too absurd.
What is your point?
My sister works for them.
Naw! Max is too busy ranting and raving to even notice. And if she does notice, we won’t know she did since she and her posts are scroll-over material!
Linda,
If Max is scroll over material, why do you liberals keep posting in response to her posts?
Did you all get your fancy four-color, printed on heavy gloss stock Taker Update from Tiarht in today’s mail? Wonder how much that cost us?
Oooops, should have been Tanker Update. Some errors seem predestined… (sorry to the poster who goes by that name!)
Really Berber?
And you know this how?
What is ABC News if it’s not . . . uh . . . ABC News?
The point of ABC / Disney backing Clinton might mean, don’t know for sure, that big corps. see her as more “business friendly” (i. e. more republican).
Also, it would explain all the Obama-baiting in the last debate.
Oh gee, McCain says he made a little over $400,000 last year — Yea, he released his far after Hillary, and we heard Nothing from the Reicvh Wing —
And you all remember how much of a Stink was made over John Kerry’s wife’s fortune — which was not included in Kerry’s taxes??
WELLLLLL…. Seems Cindy McCain is worth roughly $100,000,000! Again, not an issue for the Reich Wing??? Vey hypocritical. I SAY — Out Cindy’s money, and blame it on John-John!
Turnaabout is fair play!
Yeah, good point, ::.
Kerry’s rich wife, bad bad.
McCain’s rich wife, good good.
The ABC deal might Also have something to do with the Clintons’ close ties to the entertainment industry, you think CapN??
Linda,
If Max is scroll over material, why do you liberals keep posting in response to her posts?
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Nathaniel,
This liberal (that would be ME) doesn’t. It’s impossible to answer a question addressed to liberals since each one is a distinct person who thinks for him / herself.
Since when can corporations donate to a political campaign?
Looks to me to be a list of where people worked when they donated.
dorking/beber would be well advised to stay away from Mexico, as his research has confirmed.
I’m thinking the Dominican Republic is way more his style. Just like Rush…
On a lighter note,
I just bought a puppy! Going to fly up to Seatle on May 10th and bring it home.
A little Beardie bitch out of a great herding/conformation line.
We expect photos Hank.
Sorry, Kansas Farm Girl, I go every year for at least a month, and have for a decade. I’m going to the Dominican Republic this Christmas. What kind of tractor do you have?
beber, I would guess a Cub Cadet.
Cappy would argue that a doorknob is a door.
More like a push mower, ANTI.
Exciting news, Hank! Congratulations to the soon to be new daddy. Will your others accept / welcome her?
My paternal grandfather had this giant front-splined rotor tiller monstrosity. Don’t even remember the name or brand, but it was huge.
He did three acres with it even after he retired. It was like trying to control three mules going in different directions.
Hmmmm… maybe this is why doorking has a trip planned to the Dominican Republic?
http://www.ecpat.org.uk/downloads/Dom_Rep05.pdf
And this is why he goes to Mexico?
http://www.libertadlatina.org/LatAm_US_San_Diego_Crisis_Index.htm
Hey pmom, is this guy also “puppy”?
Here’s 1 for you Libs:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/18/did-obama-give-a-flip-response-to-clinton-attacks/
Did Obama Give a ‘Flip’ Response to Clinton Attacks?
by FOXNews.com
Friday, April 18, 2008
Just when you thought the Democratic race couldn’t get uglier, Barack Obama is being accused of giving Hillary Clinton the finger at a town hall meeting in North Carolina.
The gesture — which may have been an innocent scratch of the face or, according to some, something more mischievous — came as Obama was complaining Thursday about the debate in Philadelphia the night before.
Bloggers were quick to note that as the Illinois senator scolded his Democratic rival for her performance at the debate, he raised his right hand and scratched his cheek with one finger. That finger.
“This is one of those political moments that really needs few words,” wrote the Los Angeles Times in a blog. “He’ll no doubt deny it later, but that mischievous smile seems to confirm plenty. And the crowd sure sees something.”
Not the first time Hillary’s gotten The Finger!
Here’s how the military feels about Hillary:
http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/hillary_soldier_finger_duress.PNG
PRICELESS!
McCain would say this lead is down to a C*nt Hair’s width!
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/18/obamas-lead-in-national-poll-shrinks-following-debate/
Obama’s Lead in National Poll Shrinks Following Debate
by FOXNews.com
Friday, April 18, 2008
A new national poll shows Barack Obama’s once-healthy lead shrinking to a hair’s width, suggesting his defensive performance at the Wednesday debate in Philadelphia may have hurt him.
That’s “finga” to you white folks Max.
Regular, had to leave so just now reading your new comments about the Rand study. I found the study on line and a free download is availble, if you are interested in reading it. As a supporter of the troops, I’m sure you would really want to get to the bottom of what is happening with our troops.
http://rand.org/pubs/monographs/MG720/
And…………..in one of your comments I read where you referred to your blog. I would be very interested in visiting it, if you are allowed to post it here.
Clinton/Obama have reduced themselves down to road rage and personal attacks.
They both need a timeout.
Thanks for the link kccitydude.
My political/government blog is way outdated and after revising it last year I dumped a lot of archives, so it’s pretty empty.
Since I can make any kind of blog, my most active blogs are for my graphics works that I do. I’d rather not post them here though (for my own reasons and NDA type of things)
But, here the link to one of the blogs.
http://republikan.typepad.com/republikansan/2008/02/this-is-a-new-p.html
I also had an environmental blog, but no one was interested in it, so it’s antiquated.
I don’t get any sign-ins, but do get quite a few hits. Stopped updating it as there was no interest in it generally.
Is Hillary suffering from ED,(Excessive Dishonesty)
Spending Time Dreaming Up Stories?
Maybe she’s been taking ‘LIAGRA’
“I was shot at by snipers”
“I was for/no against NAFTA”
“Illegals should/no shouldn’t get drivers licenses”
“I didn’t know Bill was a cheater or even like cigars.”
“Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on 9/11″
“White Water????”
“Travelgate????”
“What Pardons????”
Yep…that’s what ‘LIAGRA’ will do for you!
Benefits:
1. Stronger, longer lasting fabrications
2. Tell lies faster with more enthusiasm
3. Removes all sense of remorse
4. Even believe your own made up stories
Warnings:
*Do not use product if you have a conscience
*The speed with which you can tell lies may exceed lung capacity, stop using if short of breath.
*Loss of vision (philosophically speaking)
*Expect loss of hearing (criticism)
*Antidote–exorcist