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Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
– Douglas Adams
Except Douglas Adams was wrong: learning from the experience of others is almost universal among mammals and birds.
Oh well; this mornin’s rave:
Notice how the entire U.S. is hysterical over five teen-age girls who are with child in that crazed texas religious compound story, but is falling over backwards to worship the pope.
How many thousands of very young women do you suppose were married in Catholic ceremonies world wide this year?
So here we have a guy running about the country in a white dress and a pointy hat followed by acolytes with red caps, all of them supported by the pennies of the poor. While the throwback Mormons are self-sufficient.
The two faiths obviously have one thing in common — unrestricted breeding, in a world bursting at the seams with people.
Someone should point out that the child abuse record in Texas foster homes is not exactly stain free. Being Texas, many foster families are Fundy Xians. Out of the frying pan into the fire?
(I once talked to a kid who was put in a Hays foster home where he was required to get down on his knees and blubber loud prayers every time an ambulance passed.)
I would wager that if these children were put into foster homes, the rate of sexual abuse of children would probably be about the same as would the average age of first sexual contact for females. The age of the first partner would no doubt decline. This in essence is what the fight is about.
The children’s health and diets would definately decline. But at least they’d be ‘Mericans.
They would be free to get knocked up in high school
Five teenage girls out of how many, a hundred maybe? Sounds like a lot lower number than our Wichita high schools. Maybe child protective services should raid the high schools taking them all into custody.
As ‘beber’ pointed out above, and is well worth repeating so as not to get lost, at least the Mormons are self-sufficient and not a tax burden on society when and after they have their babies.
This may or may not turn out to have been necessary, but I have an uncomfortable hunch it’s another example of the ‘authorities’ not liking a lifestyle they don’t understand so they stick their noses in it to force conformity to what they want.
Boxlick,
Yeah–burdening taxpayers is SO much worse than raping children.
“ELDORADO, Texas (CNN) — The 16-year-old girl whose phone calls led to a raid on a polygamist compound in Texas identified Dale Evans Barlow as the man who she said beat, choked and sexually assaulted her after their “spiritual marriage,” according to a court document unsealed Wednesday.
An affidavit says “Sarah,” 16, said Dale Evans Barlow, shown in 2005, beat her and forced her to have sex.
The affidavit, signed by Texas Ranger Leslie Brooks Long, also says a former member of the polygamist church told authorities details of the sect’s activities — including a bed inside the group’s temple that adult men used to have sex with underage girls immediately after wedding ceremonies.
After authorities raided the ranch late Thursday, the ranger “observed the bed within the temple that had disturbed bed linens and a strand of hair that appears to be from a female head.”
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/09/texas.ranch/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
Seriously, dude. The fact that your “uncomfortable hunch” leads you to preemptorily vindicate the cult and its activities toward children says a lot about you–too much, in fact.
“but I have an uncomfortable hunch it’s another example of the ‘authorities’ not liking a lifestyle they don’t understand so they stick their noses in it to force conformity to what they want.”
Sounds like the Marriage amendment. It also brings to mind folks who think every pregnancy is “a gift from God not to be trifled with”
I’m sorry. Wasn’t there a 911 call reporting spousal abuse at the ranch? I think that would tend to separate the long noses from the short and correctly directed.
“…not a tax burden on society when and after they have their babies.”
Considering much of their money comes from government contracts I am not so sure about the term “self-sufficient”.
As I said, “This may or may not turn out to have been necessary…, and if those things turn out to be true I’m glad there was intervention. The last I read they hadn’t even found the girl that made the call.
John McCain’s latest effort to bribe the American people to vote for him is pandering at its finest. As The Atlantic notes in “McCainomics”:
McCain’s speech reads like an attempt to unify a divided party by offering every faction something to make them happy.
This is quite a departure from the “straight talk express”. He itemized a list of populist economic positions for the sole purpose of gaining more votes in an election year. The belief is that no one will consider the feasibility of transforming this vote bribery into actual law. As we mentioned in the past McCain is a chameleon. He is a political opportunist and not much more. He is the GOP’s answer to Bill Clinton. He is representative of the fact that there is little difference between the two major parties.
Contrary to belief, there is another Republican still in the race who is everything John McCain isn’t. And that is a very good thing. Ron Paul is incapable of pandering. Ron Paul won’t propose policy for the purpose of winning votes. He will (and does) propose policy that preserves and protects the Constitution. By doing so he not only keeps his oath of office, but he protects the American people. For some reason this has become the exception rather than the norm in politics today.
American politics is an STD: A special-interest transmitted disease. As newly elected officials enter their white buildings they slowly become what they once despised. The lure is too great. They transform from well-meaning ideologues into puppets and “Talking Heads”. Indeed, a few wake up every now and then and say to themselves, “how did I get here?”. But far too few do.
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By SCOTT MICHELS and CHRIS CUOMO, ABC News
SAN ANGELO, Texas, April 17, 2008
“Where is the 16 year Old Polygamist Victim?
Experts say Texas polygamy case may unravel if girls is not found.
Among the hundreds of children, lawyers and caseworkers involved in an unprecedented child custody hearing, one person will be noticeably absent — the 16-year-old girl whose call for help set in motion the largest child protection case in U.S. history.
Texas authorities say they have not located or identified the girl, though they have said they believe she is among the 416 children from a polygamous sect who were taken into state custody nearly two weeks ago.
Some people are now questioning whether she exists at all.”
Maybe she’s dead.
Or
“she is among the 416 children from a polygamous sect who were taken into state custody nearly two weeks ago.”
Maybe she is scared out of her wits.
She may have lived all her life in a faith that teaches her that she will be condemned to hell if she dare raise her voice or ask a question.
How many thousands of very young women do you suppose were married in Catholic ceremonies world wide this year?
I’d like a citation, please. I did a search and could only find references to places like Pakistan, india, and even Egypt where arranged marriages were enacted by the couple living with their parents until puberty. And they weren’t Catholic. And however much you hate Catholics, for whatever reason, it must really get in your craw that it was the first christian religion.
Boxlock, the women are demanded by their husbands to go get on public assistance, because technically they’re single mothers.
Now you say what again?
They also kick their boys out to make more marryable girls for the men.
Then there is this gem.
JESSOP: Well, you know, it was from multiple levels. Merrill did a form of water torture on babies, and it was a method he called breaking them, where he would take the baby and spank them until they were screaming out of control, and then he would hold the baby face up under a tap of running water for a minute, maybe as long as a minute, and then he`d take a baby out, spank them again and then the process would just repeat. He`d do this until the baby was just so exhausted, it couldn`t fight anymore. He called it breaking them. And what the method was behind it was to instill an extreme level of fear for their father, but do it at an age that they wouldn`t remember the process that was used to instill that fear.
GRACE: What would the wives do as he did this to their babies?
JESSOP: You know, he did it to my oldest son, and I still can`t talk about it without crying. I witnessed it. I was terrified of him. I was still a — I mean, I was in my — I had barely turned 20. I was pregnant, with morning sickness and incredibly ill with my second baby. And I didn`t dare to say anything. I was afraid he would be worse and hurt my baby worse. But after that one episode, he never did it in front of me again. But I`m aware, you know, since then, from things that people have told me, that he did it with several of my babies. He just never did it in front of me again.
GRACE: Let me ask you, where are your children now?
JESSOP: I have all of them with me except for my oldest daughter. She — the FLDS are experts in breaking down relationships between children and their mother. And I had to have professional help with this problem when I left to reestablish relationship with my children. I never was able to with my oldest daughter.
That was from Nancy Grace.
Maybe? Maybe? Maybe? What kind of answer is that when 461 children are rounded up and taken from their parents?
Notice the date of CF2..whatever’s information above, it’s old.
Friday, April 18, 2008
Texas cult case: Where’s Sarah?
A week ago, Rusty Shackleford said of the Texas polygamy cult case:
“From the beginning my ’something not right about the way this is being reported’ detector has been going off.
Rusty may be onto something. Remember 16-year-old “Sarah”? Nearly two weeks after the raid, Texas officials say they still haven’t found her:
“In good faith?” Remember, this hearing is about the state of Texas seeking custody of all 461 children from the FLDS cult. The case began with this one allegation of abuse, the state has failed even to locate the person who made the allegation, and yet hundreds of children are in danger of being taken from their parents?
As Rusty said, it’s the way the media is reporting the case that causes suspicion. The media has tried to portray this as a “children endangered” case, repeating Texas officials’ claims that girls were “spiritually married” as soon as they reached puberty. But if there is any actual evidence of that, it didn’t come out in the first day of court hearings:
” but where’s the evidence? If the state can produce actual evidence of pregnant 13- and 14-year-olds — and obstetric examinations could determine that very easily –then they’ve got a serious case. So far, though, there has been no report of any such evidence. So far as can be determined from this CNN/AP story, they’ve found one 16-year-old with a baby, but if every pregnant 16-year-old in Texas is cause for a paramilitary raid, they’re going to need more SWAT teams.
Statutory rape and polygamy are both against the law, and FLDS members may be charged with either crime. But lurid tales of young virgins forcibly raped in temple rituals by their “spiritual” husbands as soon as the girls reached menarche? Sounds like media hype to me.
As I said, if there is abuse…prosecute, but they better have more than this or it’s abuse by government.
Catholics in Mexico believe that if a man rapes a girl, she must marry him.
That’s just as bad.
“the women are demanded by their husbands to go get on public assistance, because technically they’re single mothers.”
Political_mama, if that’s the case then take APPROPRIATE action to stop the welfare abuse.
Also you say, “They also kick their boys out to make more marryable girls for the men.” I say if that’s true, at what age. That happens frequently with young men ‘of age’.
Listen, I’m not defending them if they’ve done something wrong. And if the stories we are hearing are true, and are as bad as indicated by some as far as abuse, then prosecute them, hell hang um. But this was a rush to judgment by the authorities that need to respect individual, and group, liberties.
“She may have lived all her life in a faith that teaches her that she will be condemned to hell if she dare raise her voice or ask a question.” Blue Jay.
How is that any different than the rest of them?
Catholics in Mexico believe that if a man rapes a girl, she must marry him. — P.M.
Actually, p.m., it’s the other way around. Generally, if a man impregnates a woman, he must marry her, as she is otherwise dishonored, as is he. That’s fairly archaic, though, even in Mexico. Have you ever been to Mexico. Read a book about Mexico. Studied Mexican literature?
Oy, in lockstep with Boxlock. My Gawd; I could be a Republican. The horror, the horror.
“Boxlock, the women are demanded by their husbands to go get on public assistance, because technically they’re single mothers.” — P.M.
Stop watching Fox, p.m., swear off Nancy Grace.
“How is that any different than the rest of them?”
Other faiths you mean.
In belief, not a great deal different.
See political mama’s post at 8:43 as to practice.
I think it is fair to assume we have a couple of posters here who regard women as a lower form of human being. There other posts here speak volumes about them and their character.
Another Damned Drug War Death
Radley Balko | January 29, 2007, 8:46am
Add 81-year-old Isaac Singletary to your list of wrongful drug war victims.
Police were apparently conducting an undercover drug investigation when Singletary asked them to leave his property. They didn’t. So he asked again, this time with a handgun.
And that was the end of Isaac Singletary.
Whether or not he had reason to know the men on his lawn were police is still under investigation. It seems unlikely. The officers were undercover. And neighbors and relatives say Singletary was protective of his property precisely because of the drug activity in the area.
It’s the third shooting involving the Jacksonville, Fla. sheriff’s office in three weeks, causing local state’s attorney Harry Shorstein to ponder, “If we’re just selling drugs to addicts, I don’t know what we’re accomplishing.”
Shame that it takes a pile of bodies to come to that realization.
“…not a tax burden on society when and after they have their babies.”
Ah, yes. Another member of the pro-life movement speaks. Good job, Boxlock.
Are you paying for polygamy?
“…because the laws in this country only recognize one of their multiple marriages as legal, the other wives are apparently claiming to be single moms struggling to care for a house full of dependents. This makes them eligible for government aid, and lots of it. They are on welfare and you are footing the bill!”
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/09/randi-kaye-are-you-paying-for-polygamy/
A FREAKIN men. Bout damn time
No Bases for Empire: International Activists Organize Against U.S. Foreign Bases in Their Backyards
It sounds like a fast-food franchise—hundreds of locations spanning some 130 countries across the globe. But in fact, it’s perhaps the ultimate face of U.S. hegemony: military bases. There are more than 700 U.S. military bases worldwide, used for launching wars, holding prisoners and testing weapons. One could be closing down in Ecuador, where lawmakers recently approved a ban on foreign bases. Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa has famously quipped that he’ll let the U.S. military remain if the U.S. agrees to an Ecuadorian military base in Miami.
Link
Report: 300,000 Iraq & Afghan Vets Suffer PTSD & Depression
300,000 US troops who served in Iraq and Afghanistan are suffering from major depression or post-traumatic stress disorder. This, according to a new study by the RAND Corporation. Researchers say nearly 20 percent of the troops who served in the war zones are suffering PTSD and depression, but only half of them have sought treatment. RAND researcher Terri Tanielian said, “Unless they receive appropriate and effective care for these mental health conditions, there will be long-term consequences for them and for the nation.” The study also estimates that 320,000 service members had experienced a possible traumatic brain injury while deployed. Researchers say female soldiers and reservists had the highest rates of post-traumatic stress disorder and major depression. Meanwhile, in Texas, the Dallas VA Medical Center has been forced to close its psychiatric ward to new patients after the suicides of four veterans this year.
Link
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To all the pro-war people, justify this. Justify the torment of these troops. This doesn’t even cover their families. Look at the devastation this idiotic war has wreaked on our soldiers.
You pro-war types say that you support the troops. You support the troops and want to keep putting them through this. That is an oxymoron. You support their torment. Nice job.
Think about the cost of treating these troops long term. How many of them will receive treatment and still not recover? Pro war folks don’t support the troops; they support the troop’s demise. No, you want to know what an ‘Un-American’ is? It is one who supports the continued devastation of our troops for oil that will never materialize. How American of you.
US to Release Iraqi Prisoners, Teach Them About Islam
The Wall Street Journal reports US commanders in Iraq have begun releasing hundreds of Iraqi prisoners after concluding the military’s detention policy might be harming US goals in Iraq [ya THINK???]. The US is currently holding about 23,000 Iraqis, many without charge. The US military has begun building a pair of large halfway houses in Taji and Ramadi, where detainees will undergo vocational training. The Wall Street Journal reports the US military also plans to teach religious courses [THAT should work out well.] to the former prisoners about how to be a moderate Muslim. Imams will be brought in by the military to teach courses that highlight the Islamic precepts that bar the killing of innocents and offer alternative interpretations of jihad.
Link
I’d read several children had identified a female meeting the callers description, on their campus. She may have been brough in, consecrated in the temple, and moved out. Who Knows, she may have been found out and ‘chastised’.
Those horney old bastids couldn’t even wait to get them home and had to set up a ‘marriage bed’ in the temple!
Can you believe this crap…
GOP Rep.: Revoke Jimmy Carter’s passport for Hamas visits
Nick Langewis and David Edwards
Published: Thursday April 17, 2008
He’s just unilaterally going off on his own and undermining everything the international community and the United States is (sic) trying to do,” protested Republican U.S. House Rep. Sue Myrick (NC-09) today in the call to revoke the passport of former president Jimmy Carter.
Myrick also wants taxpayer funds to the Carter Center, which conducts humanitarian efforts worldwide, severed. “Why,” the lawmaker asks, “should we support his center when he will not support his government?”
“Frankly,” the lawmaker said, “I wanted to send a strong message, because we have a policy in this country about Hamas, and he is just deliberately undermining that policy, and it’s wrong.
“You know, Hamas has continually stood for terrorism against peace, and the State Department, the administration [and] Israel all opposed him going over there to meet.”
Hamas has been designated as a terrorist organization by the United States, Canada, Israel and Japan.
“Any side that kills innocent people guilty of terrorism,” President Carter, author of Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid, told an audience at Cairo’s American University, following visits with Hamas officials and Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. He was responding to a student that told him that he was legitimizing terrorists by speaking with Hamas leaders.
Mercy — how eager some are to exonerate this Mormon (Ahem) Cult — Why dont we jusst caalll them whaat they are? A bunch of religious sex fanatics!
My kinda gal.
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Colbert-Clinton.mov
Interesting statistics there Sol, care to back them up with real numbers?
My nephew is out of the Army with 100 percent disability, PSTD, shrapnel wounds, exposed to several road-side bombs and other conditions which I won’t describe here.
I’m curious how that number was derived. 300,000 is a lot, especially considering there are not that many troops now or in the past in Iraq. Even considering rotations, not every troop is exposed to hostile fire and certainly not all to road side bombs.
I would like to know where your story got those statistics.
Regular, http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080417/ts_alt_afp/usiraqafghanistanmilitaryhealth
Regular,
Did you read the story?
This, according to a new study by the RAND Corporation.
And it is PTSD.
Regular,
The google is a wonderful thing…
Since October 2001, approximately 1.64 million U.S. troops have been deployed for Operations Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom (OEF/OIF) in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Link
Kinda like using facts instead of pulling things out of your fourth point of contact.
300,000 is a lot, especially considering there are not that many troops now or in the past in Iraq.
Rand Corporation is a pro-military organization; not a bunch of “lefties”
I know how it’s spelled sol, it was a typo. You can climb down from your high horse now.
The findings were extrapolated from a survey of 1,926 recently returned service members from across the military services. The sample was designed to represent the 1.6 million troops who have deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan since 2002.
Yeah okay, this is the same method that was used by that highly rated Statistical team that said 600,000 Iraqi Civilians had been killed when they surveyed 1000 civilians.
Sorry, not buying it. I call B.S.
Yeah you’re right, the RAND Corporation is ever so known for flawed studies. Guess that is why they do so well and are still around.
Typical pro-war arguments. Don’t like the message, attack the source. Got absolutely nothing to back it up with, but yeah, it is trash.
And as for the high horse, morally, you will forever look up to me as I will never wallow in the filth you so enjoy.
“The RAND Corporation (Research ANd Development[1]) is a nonprofit global policy think tank first formed to offer research and analysis to the United States armed forces. The organization has since expanded to working with other governments, private foundations, international organizations, and commercial ”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAND
Hmmm.
Looks like you whiffed again scooter.
“Since October 2001, approximately 1.64 million U.S. troops have been deployed for Operations Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom (OEF/OIF) in Afghanistan and Iraq. ”
A little ommission there, They’re in large part,The Same Troops!
It is hard to believe Dave! So much has been hard to believe over the past seven plus years.
“May we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion”
“Every gun that’s made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms…is spending the genius of its scientists, the sweat of its laborers,”
Eisenhower
Wonder if a pedophile might be inclined to join just such a cult?
Sol, examine statement carefully.
“The findings were extrapolated from a survey of 1,926 recently returned service members from across the military services. The sample was designed to represent the 1.6 million troops who have deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan since 2002.”
It is inherently flawed.
For one 1.6 million troops include all types, including those not near, in or part of contact with hostiles or a even a chance to get TBI.
– That’s part of the extrapolation mistake.
Secondly, one does not equate clinical diagnosis to patients never examined.
Thirdly, and as far as I know (from all the tests my nephew had to take) Traumatic Brain Injury has to be diagnosed through several complicated test over a period of time. How is it Rand Corporation did this without touching a MRI, X-Ray or even a stethoscope?
As I said before, I call B.S.
I believe you are wrong with how the figure of 600,000 dead was arrived at.
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Perhaps I am wrong about how the 600,000 figure was derived kscitydude, but the erroneous results achieved by the statistical survey is still an error.
At the time of that erroneous report, the Iraqi government and the U.S. Military had concluded that about 60,000 had been killed (iraqi civilians)
Exploding that to 10 times the amount is almost funny, if it wasn’t so tragic.
I called B.S. on that study as well and was later confirmed as being correct in doing so.
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Editors, I am sick of this crap popping up all the time. Surely you are not powerless to stop it. I’m sure that some young people occasionally pop in and are exposed to this garbage.
IT IS TOTALLY CLASSLESS TO ALLOW IT ON YOUR BLOG.
It’s their trackbacks outlander. It’s why I don’t allow them on my blog. :)
IIRC, it was Zogby, not RAND who came up with the 600,000 figure. They sstood by their numbers AT THAT TIME. Maybe you want to check out Zogby.
Got a merger consult. Back later!
What is a trackback?
I can see them at the bottom of some threads but I don’t understand what they are. Anyone?
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Some more for our enjoyment. Thanks Editors. Again;
IT IS TOTALLY CLASSLESS TO ALLOW IT ON YOUR BLOG.
Reg; your blog is looking better all the time as an alternative.
“…because the laws in this country only recognize one of their multiple marriages as legal, the other wives are apparently claiming to be single moms struggling to care for a house full of dependents. This makes them eligible for government aid, and lots of it. They are on welfare and you are footing the bill!”
Lindalaikes correctly quotes this (“http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/09/randi-kaye-are-you-paying-for-polygamy/) CNN story, but fails to mention it is mealy-mouthed bullshit. Any reporter could determine instantly if the Reform Mormons in Texas are milking wellfare by comparing wellfare expinditures in the county in which the temple is located with those before it located there.
Note how the journalist qualified the lead:
“I hope you have some extra cash lying around because Warren Jeffs and his polygamist sect may be dipping into your wallet.”
In other words what he is reporting is it is possible that the sect is milking the system, but he doesn’t know one way or the other.
I may have had sex with Linsey Lohan, according to sources.
Now how credible is that?
How about the next time we get the porno link trackbacks, we copy it and send it to Brownlee’s email? I’m gonna do it. If several do it, it will get his attention.
A total of 1,965 individuals responded.
Results showed that
• 18.5% of all returning servicemembers meet criteria for
either PTSD or depression (see Figure 1); 14% of returning
servicemembers currently meet criteria for PTSD,
and 14% meet criteria for depression (numbers
not shown in Figure 1).
• 19.5% reported experiencing a probable TBI during
deployment (see Figure 1).
• About 7% meet criteria for a mental health problem and
also report a possible TBI.
Link
These numbers make you feel better?
How about these numbers?
About 1.4 million troops have served in Iraq or Afghanistan, and more than 205,000 have sought care from the veterans’ agency, according to the government.
Link
The number of troops who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan recently passed 1.5 million early this year.
Link
• VA hospitals, where Iraq and Afghanistan veterans have been screened for combat brain injuries since April. The VA found about 20% of 61,285 surveyed — or 11,804 veterans — with signs of brain injury, spokeswoman Alison Aikele says. VA doctors say more evaluation is necessary before a true diagnosis of brain injury can be confirmed in all these cases, Aikele says.
Link
Maybe we should all just read the 500 page study that Rand put out. By reading a small summary by a couple of reporters, we all might be not getting a clear picture.
Here is another article I found about this when I went to the armytimes.com:
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/04/ap_mental_041708/
VA hospitals, where Iraq and Afghanistan veterans have been screened for combat brain injuries since April. The VA found about 20% of 61,285 surveyed — or 11,804 veterans
Yes Sol, that sounds more like the numbers expected to occur under proper clinically diagnosed scenarios.
That’s the point I was attempting to make. Diagnosis from statistics partially extrapolated out of a complex report by Rand, may have been literally and deliberately misinterpreted by some glory seeking reporters.
Common sense told me otherwise as you have just confirmed.
Thanks for the second look at the problem Sol.
Oh btw, just from your one paragraph:
About 1.4 million troops have served in Iraq or Afghanistan, and more than 205,000 have sought care from the veterans’ agency, according to the government.
The 300,000 number hasn’t even been reached by clinical visits of returning veterans. That number all by itself should have set alarm bells off in your head.
Hmmm, the Army Times is running the same story I linked to. Looks like your “source is crap” argument just fell under the bus.
From the KCDude link
• About 19 percent, or 320,000 service members, reported that they experienced a possible traumatic brain injury while deployed. In wars where blasts from roadside bombs are prevalent, the injuries can range from mild concussions to severe head wounds.
• About 7 percent reported a probable brain injury and current PTSD or major depression.
• Only 43 percent reported ever having been evaluated by a physician for their head injuries.
• Only 53 percent of service members with PTSD or depression sought help during the past year.
• They gave various reasons for not getting help, including that they worried about the side effects of medication; believe family and friends could help them with the problem; or that they feared seeking care might damage their careers.
• Rates of PTSD and major depression were highest among women and reservists.
so are you stating that the Army times would run a story and “literally and deliberately misinterpreted ” it?
Again Sol, you are using a flat number with no break down of what actually is reality.
When you admit your error, I’ll be here.
Until then, try not to hang your hat on raw numbers that stand outside of factual context.
lindainks55,
I just keep wondering, what happen to the America we grew up in? Is it gone forever? or was it ever really here?
What I see and hear theses days makes me long for those days of innocence.
I haven’t made an error to apologize for. I am restating what RAND (as hired by the military to do) reported.
19% of service members, reported that they experienced a possible traumatic brain injury while deployed. In wars where blasts from roadside bombs are prevalent, the injuries can range from mild concussions to severe head wounds.
About 7 percent reported a probable brain injury and current PTSD or major depression.
• Only 43 percent reported ever having been evaluated by a physician for their head injuries.
• Only 53 percent of service members with PTSD or depression sought help during the past year.
The above are hard numbers. % of those questioned. So let’s hear how you refute these numbers.
Remember – RAND, hired by the Dod. Army Times ran the same story…
Sorry Regular about the bad web site info. I’ll try it again. I, for one, think we will never know the correct death count of Iraqis.
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/
SB116052896787288831-zIkhR7ZgGRS2
_Bz9LXSKJsg43vQ_20071010.html
If this does not post correctly google:
Iraqi Death Toll Exceeds 600000, Study Estimates – WSJ.com
“I just keep wondering, what happen to the America we grew up in? Is it gone forever? or was it ever really here? — Greatful Dave.
I read one study which concluded that the average age of first sexual experience hasn’t changed in the USA since the 1940s. Remember, in computing this statistic, age of marriage is irrelevant.
At any rate, Linda’s link to the CNN story regarding Reformed Mormons on welfare made me realize how when Fox set a new low bar for journalism, other providers had to follow in order to maintain ratings. Could you imagine Beck or Grace on CNN pre-Fox?
What this tells us about our country is that the common denominator is pretty low. All our troubles aren’t due to Bush, to the Democrats or the Republicans; they have all been caused by us.
Sorry, not buying it. I call B.S.
funny, he still buys the study of WMDs and not having a clue about flying airplanes into buildings. I’ll see your Rand Corp., Reg and raise you two Kindaliesalot Rices!
To state he obvious, inferential statistics makes inferences about a population based upon a sample.
The Rand study used a random sampling technique:
http://rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/2008/RAND_RB9336.pdf
To say that the sample was unrepresentative because soldiers without direct combat experience were over-sampled, makes the logical error by way of an unstated assertion that one would not be at risk for PTSD unless one had direct combat experience. Experience from Viet Nam and the rate of PTSD among medical personnel would tend to dispute that underlying assumption.
“Someone should point out that the child abuse record in Texas foster homes is not exactly stain free.”
Someone should point out to Berber the Muddle-Headed that two wrongs do not make a right.
Because some children may have been abused in the foster-care system, it’s alright for others to be systematically abused by a religious cult?
Berber imagines himself sitting on a throne fanned with peacock feathers wielded by virginal maidens.
Grow up, fascist.
Dorking, I know we ALL gathered from your statements months ago that you’re a proponent of child rape, so your opinion matters to me as much as the freakshows down there that are being tried.
I get my information from many sources. There are many cultural beliefs among mexicans that frankly should be addressed by the Catholic church. It is NOT the other way around, why do you find so many girls being molested and raped by illegal immigrants? It’s because they don’t take this seriously there.
Its also why they had to finally give up on keeping abortion illegal in Mexico.
women should not be property or a conquest in any culture. US or not. We’re not someone’s slaves. That polygamist camp is notorious for this kind of abuse of women and children, it’s all about dominance.
Yes Steven Davis, but EMT’s and Emergency Room Personnel also suffer from PTSD. High stress situations often lead to future mental anomalies.
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Amusing Fish, however, the nature of some WMD’s such as biologicals degrade over time as to not give any clue of their existence. At least, not outside of normal background noise.
You are most likely familiar with the term half-life. Actually, all things, including biologicals have their own types of half-lives.
This means if you go looking for stuff where it was once stored, you may find unexpected results. That is very little trace, no detectable trace or traces that are meaningless because they are overwhelmed by the environmental background noise.
I used to inspect underground shelters (storm and Civil Defense.) It was always curious to me to find bottles of aspirin completely turned to powder and virtually useless, as the components, salicylic acid had completely broken down the constituent parts. The fillers are often more susceptible to decay that the main active ingredient.
Chemical WMD’s are even more volatile. Perhaps Ben, a trained Chemist wants to explain that. But let’s just say that chemicals used in warfare are not only inherently unstable, the containers that hold are more than likely to leak out the chemical over time, especially if they are poorly constructed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gqaw5UnHA4&eurl=http://condimustgo.com/
See Robert Greenwald’s film clip “Condi Must Go!”
The current Secr’y of State okayed torture and then lied about it under oath.
Thank you for posting this information, Sol:
“There are more than 700 U.S. military bases worldwide, used for launching wars, holding prisoners and testing weapons.”
I said something to that effect and Nathan jumped down my throat.
It’s true that there are so many US bases around the world that even the US military may not have an accurate count of them. But the known bases are over 700, just as I said.
Ahem — Then, ummm if they are so degraded as to be of no use, then they are as good as not even being there… Thus, no WMD’s, right??
Good lord, Full moon has to be getting close again!!
And Beber/doorking… if you like sex with young girls so much, that compound in TX must sound like heaven on earth to you!! LOL
CapN – dont wait up for an apology — you will just get overwhelmed by sleep deprivation!! :-)
CapnAmerica,
I didn’t jump down your throat because of the information you posted about the number of bases.
It was the FALSE claim you made that KBR was the main supplier for all of them.
A Claim you never came back to own up to being wrong I might add.
So I find it rather funny that you sit here still not knowing what it was I actually said.
Have a good weekend chas/double colon. Two colons, same a$$hole…
I pulled this from a blog I read. I thought it was well written and deserved to be shared:
On Kudlow and Company today I saw someone try to argue inflation as good for the economy cause it keeps prices from rising due to loss of purchasing power. My jaw hit the floor when I heard this, afterwards another commentator said America will be able to afford luxury items as long as the Fed keeps lower interesting rates and printing dollars to meet the demand… at this point my jaw dropped to the floor ripped off my skull.
So first let’s explore the first statement and break it down:
“Inflation is good for the economy”
First off a weaker dollar hurts everyone. Here’s How:
-Prices on food, gas another necessities go up while wages lose purchasing power faster than they rise.
- This decreases the labor supply for many small companies that can’t afford to increase their wages to keep up with increase need for higher wages to keep the same standard of living, in the meanwhile their purchasing power is dropping with their productivity.
- imports increase in cost, increasing the cost of a lot of electronics, and the cost of materials used to make domestic goods in effect increasing domestic prices further.
- The increased purchasing power of other nations creates higher levels of ownership of the US economy by foreign nations, which will in the long term effect US sovereignty.
etc. etc. etc.
But the statement in question has another section that deserves scrutiny.
“the decreased purchasing power pushes luxury prices down”
To Be fair, this statement is partly correct but the implication of this reality isn’t something to be optimistic about. The way this happens is that since a persons ability to afford necessities becomes so tight that many have to forgo luxury items, so things like IPODs and Guitars would have either drop prices to even out demand or increase the prices and charge a premium to the elite few who have the discretionary funds to buy these items.
So what does this mean?
- Gas and Good prices have gone up so they have to cut spending on leisure, this is not a good economic indicator for anyone unless your planning to sell Apple. Luckily, there is the Chinese market.
- With less demand for these kind of items you’ll see less variety, which will result in less innovation from competitive pressure which slows the progress of society.
Now to go on to the second statement…
“The economy will be fine if the Federal Reserve continues to print money and lower interest rates”
No and No
Against Printing Cash:
When you have more of something, it becomes worth less thus the law of supply and demand. More money means it’ll be worth less, and you have the economic effects above. This primarily effects the middle class and below who’s economic world is primarily domestic. More wealthy people are suffering losses in their investments in the housing sector and many luxury items may hurt in the long term if this continues but at least these people usually have safety nets of foreign investments that are in some places less volatile than the US currently.
Against Lower Interest Rates:
I’m not against interest rates going down or up, but the federal reserve does this by manipulating the money supply which is essentially shifting the value of peoples assets in an indirect re-distribution of the nations wealth which is ridiculously immoral no matter which way you shift the interest rate.
Like if you and I both had a glass but yours was filled with water so I poured half of your water in my glass, while I didn’t take your glass I did steal half the value from your glass. This is the effect of lower interest rates artificially.
Or if 10 people had glasses 1/10th full so I took all their water and put it in one cup. This would simulate the effect of artificially raising interest rates.
either way this manipulation of the value of the dollar shifts wealth. The answer is to let the market decide interest rates by ending the borrowing of money from the discount window so Banks must practice smart and safe banking.
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SquarePeg
Posted April 18, 2008 at 1:19 pm | Permalink
Ahem — Then, ummm if they are so degraded as to be of no use, then they are as good as not even being there… Thus, no WMD’s, right??
Good lord, Full moon has to be getting close again!!
And Beber/doorking… if you like sex with young girls so much, that compound in TX must sound like heaven on earth to you!! LOL
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You and Chas must have attended the same school of “can’t see past the end of my nose logic.”
Regliar writes: “I’m curious how that number [of wounded in Iraq] was derived. 300,000 is a lot, especially considering there are not that many troops now or in the past in Iraq.”
KCDude links to an article the headline of which reads “PTSD, depression afflict 300,000 Iraq, Afghan war vets: study” and Sol smacks him down with this: “Since October 2001, approximately 1.64 million U.S. troops have been deployed for Operations Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom (OEF/OIF) in Afghanistan and Iraq.”
But ReguLIAR insists he is not wrong. No he’s not wrong.
Then he himself posts this: “The VA found about 20% of 61,285 surveyed — or 11,804 veterans.”
Hey, Jeenyous, what is 20 percent of 1.6 million? Oh, sh!t, it’s 320,000, exactly what the study in question said it was.
All CONs are not as dumb as ReguLIAR. But all dumb people are CONs.
Its also why they had to finally give up on keeping abortion illegal in Mexico.
–p.m.
Abortion is not legal in Mexico, it is legal in the federal district of Mexico. Read a book, bitch.
A reasonable and mature person would respond at this point that the evidence is overwhelming that he was wrong.
But ReguLIAR is not a reasonable and mature person.
And he’ll prove it with his next post.
Hey, Berber, you little bitch.
Looks like Mr. Tough Guy likes to pick on women.
I can’t abide that, you dickhead.
Good observation,
‘What this tells us about our country is that the common denominator is pretty low. All our troubles aren’t due to Bush, to the Democrats or the Republicans; they have all been caused by us.”
Here’s where the concept for fox news came from,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08
Policial Mama,
Please show me where Catholics in Mexico believe that if a man rapes a girl she must marry him.
CapnAmerica,
You are one of the biggest tin-foil hat wearing people on this website who believes some really wierd crap regardless of the evidence…
Pot meet kettle.
Sol, I dont believe I have seen any postings from Chas today. You must need your vision checked, unless you are normally this stupid. I also dont see any posts from this double colon you make reference to. See, your Editors mqde me use my full “handle” with their new Sign In system, which seems to work very well, for the time being.
Regular – YOU told us about the breakdown of the substances, thus leaving what might once have been a WMD, worthless. Whatever high horse you rode in on, why dont you ride out on it as well.
I lived in the border town of Laredo for two years, and had a Mexican girlfriend at the time . . . if you can call chapeoned dates with the girl’s mother having a girlfriend.
I never heard anyone say that directly, but it sounds about par: Men are dogs and it’s the woman’s job to keep them in line. If he goes too far, it’s her fault for letting him.
Sol and the rest of you.
I tell you I know Chas personally. Square Peg is not Chas.
Stop annoying the guy.
I thought Right Angle was Reguliar. BTH told me it wasn’t. I was wrong about that. I admit it.
Let it go.
Sure, you betcha, Nathan.
Go smash some fossils why don’t you?
That way the devil won’t be able to fool people with them . . .
“Here’s where the concept for fox news came from”
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Mob rule, mass hysteria, group mind.
Yep, the common denominator is pretty low.
CapnAmerica,
Your beliefs don’t fly any less in the face of science than mine do.
Of course, I doubt you will ever see the irony in that though.
CraponAmerica writes:
Then he himself posts this: “The VA found about 20% of 61,285 surveyed — or 11,804 veterans.”
Hey, Jeenyous, what is 20 percent of 1.6 million? Oh, sh!t, it’s 320,000, exactly what the study in question said it was.
All CONs are not as dumb as ReguLIAR. But all dumb people are CONs
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Please tell me you’re not that stupid.
Please show me some sign of intelligence that you know better than to cook a set of numbers from another set of completely different numbers.
Please tell me you know the difference between “clinically diagnosed” and “surveyed.”
Come on Crapn, help yourself out here, you are making yourself look stupid to your Lib Progressive friends.
“why do you find so many girls being molested and raped by illegal immigrants?” — p.m.
Because there are a lot of illegal immigrants so there are bound to be a lot of girls molested by them. However, I doubt seriously the rate at which girls are molested in Mexico, or in the U.S. by people of Mexican/Central American descent is any higher than the rate at which white people molest young girls. The vast majority of girls who are molested are molested by their relatives or acquaintances of the family. You know that.
Also, despite the low age of consent in Mexico, I wouldn’t be molesting any young girls there. The punishment is often being beaten to death on a public street by a mob. I’ve seen it many times on television, and read of many instances of such “justice” in the newspapers. By practically stating that it is accepted, you are only restating my contention that you are an ignorant, vicious bitch.
“You are one of the biggest tin-foil hat wearing people on this website who believes some really wierd crap regardless of the evidence…”
You didn’t really say that now, did you?
Upthread, I predicted that ReguLIAR would prove his unreasonableness and immaturity in his next thread.
Here’s his next thread: “Come on Crapn, help yourself out here, you are making yourself look stupid to your Lib Progressive friends.”
Yup. As predictable as clockwork.
There is absolutely no conflict between my religious views and my scientific views.
Believing that the earth is only 10 thousand years old because ‘the Bible says so’ would be a clear contradiction with scientific evidence.
Yeah Crapn, perhaps it was this statement from you. :D
Hey, Jeenyous, what is 20 percent of 1.6 million? Oh, sh!t, it’s 320,000, exactly what the study in question said it was.
All CONs are not as dumb as ReguLIAR. But all dumb people are CONs
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Live by the smartass comment Crapn, die by the smartass comment.
(chortles)
CapnAmerica,
There is absolutely no conflict between my religious views and my scientific views either!
Look, we have found some common ground.
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CapnAmerica
Posted April 18, 2008 at 1:41 pm | Permalink
Sol and the rest of you.
I tell you I know Chas personally. Square Peg is not Chas.
Stop annoying the guy.
I thought Right Angle was Reguliar. BTH told me it wasn’t. I was wrong about that. I admit it.
Let it go.
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Do you occasionally swaps socks and underwear with Chas?
If you don’t know SquarePeg, why are you vouching or a person unknown?
Appears to be a porous claim.
“You are most likely familiar with the term half-life. Actually, all things, including biologicals have their own types of half-lives” — Regular.
This the the height of cheek. Remember before the war when so many rational people argued that Saddam could not have biological or chemical weapons because of the half-life argument? It was essentially one of Scott Ritter’s main points. Now, reversed, it is an excuse as to why we did not find WMD in Iraq. I doubt seriously whether this is original thought from Regular, as he is often too busy diddling his nieces to do his own thinking.
I know Chas would not make up sock-puppet nics and not admit to it.
End of story.
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M3/C00431569/A_EMPLOYER_C00431569.html
Isn’t that interesting.
ABC News gave almost 6,000 dollars to the Clinton campaign.
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“ABC News gave almost 6,000 dollars to the Clinton campaign” — cappy.
Cappy’s site says ABC news gave $55 to the clinton campaign
Isn’t that interesting?
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-418/#comment-333372
All the major news networks were listed as donating money to the Clinton Campaign and CapnAmerica only highlighted that ABC news did.
Makes you go hmmmmmm?
Isn’t that amazing; the ho ho express and haliburton contributed to the McCain campaign.
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M3/C00430470/A_EMPLOYER_C00430470.html
Just to be clear, it would appear to me that the Rand study used methodology consistent with that which is usually employed in the psychiatric epidemiology discipline.
I am not aware of any recent studies where cases were identified by diagnostic interview. The cost of such would be prohibitive and the benefits, over the survey method, seldom worth the greater expence.
ABC NEWS 55.00
ABC STAFFING 337.15
ABC STUDIOS 2,450.00
ABC TV NETWORK 250.00
ABC, INC. 250.00
ABC-TV 2,300.00
ABC/TV 300.00
Put on your glasses, Berber.
Outlander and I don’t agree much, but you’re right on this one.
I thought the whole idea of registration was that The Eagle can stop this kind of spam.
Somebody’s not making the effort is what it looks like to me.
ABC News is not ABC, idiot.
ABC (all) and ESPN (all) are controlled by The Walt Disney Company.
Say it aint so Linda!! Max will have to give ups mickey mouse club ears now Mickey is a Democrat!!! Yikes!!
CapnAmerica,
Before this gets too absurd.
What is your point?
My sister works for them.
Naw! Max is too busy ranting and raving to even notice. And if she does notice, we won’t know she did since she and her posts are scroll-over material!
Linda,
If Max is scroll over material, why do you liberals keep posting in response to her posts?
Did you all get your fancy four-color, printed on heavy gloss stock Taker Update from Tiarht in today’s mail? Wonder how much that cost us?
Oooops, should have been Tanker Update. Some errors seem predestined… (sorry to the poster who goes by that name!)
Really Berber?
And you know this how?
What is ABC News if it’s not . . . uh . . . ABC News?
The point of ABC / Disney backing Clinton might mean, don’t know for sure, that big corps. see her as more “business friendly” (i. e. more republican).
Also, it would explain all the Obama-baiting in the last debate.
Oh gee, McCain says he made a little over $400,000 last year — Yea, he released his far after Hillary, and we heard Nothing from the Reicvh Wing —
And you all remember how much of a Stink was made over John Kerry’s wife’s fortune — which was not included in Kerry’s taxes??
WELLLLLL…. Seems Cindy McCain is worth roughly $100,000,000! Again, not an issue for the Reich Wing??? Vey hypocritical. I SAY — Out Cindy’s money, and blame it on John-John!
Turnaabout is fair play!
Yeah, good point, ::.
Kerry’s rich wife, bad bad.
McCain’s rich wife, good good.
The ABC deal might Also have something to do with the Clintons’ close ties to the entertainment industry, you think CapN??
Linda,
If Max is scroll over material, why do you liberals keep posting in response to her posts?
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Nathaniel,
This liberal (that would be ME) doesn’t. It’s impossible to answer a question addressed to liberals since each one is a distinct person who thinks for him / herself.
Since when can corporations donate to a political campaign?
Looks to me to be a list of where people worked when they donated.
dorking/beber would be well advised to stay away from Mexico, as his research has confirmed.
I’m thinking the Dominican Republic is way more his style. Just like Rush…
On a lighter note,
I just bought a puppy! Going to fly up to Seatle on May 10th and bring it home.
A little Beardie bitch out of a great herding/conformation line.
We expect photos Hank. :)
Sorry, Kansas Farm Girl, I go every year for at least a month, and have for a decade. I’m going to the Dominican Republic this Christmas. What kind of tractor do you have?
beber, I would guess a Cub Cadet.
Cappy would argue that a doorknob is a door.
More like a push mower, ANTI.
Exciting news, Hank! Congratulations to the soon to be new daddy. Will your others accept / welcome her?
My paternal grandfather had this giant front-splined rotor tiller monstrosity. Don’t even remember the name or brand, but it was huge.
He did three acres with it even after he retired. It was like trying to control three mules going in different directions.
Hmmmm… maybe this is why doorking has a trip planned to the Dominican Republic?
http://www.ecpat.org.uk/downloads/Dom_Rep05.pdf
And this is why he goes to Mexico?
http://www.libertadlatina.org/LatAm_US_San_Diego_Crisis_Index.htm
Hey pmom, is this guy also “puppy”?
Here’s 1 for you Libs:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/18/did-obama-give-a-flip-response-to-clinton-attacks/
Did Obama Give a ‘Flip’ Response to Clinton Attacks?
by FOXNews.com
Friday, April 18, 2008
Just when you thought the Democratic race couldn’t get uglier, Barack Obama is being accused of giving Hillary Clinton the finger at a town hall meeting in North Carolina.
The gesture — which may have been an innocent scratch of the face or, according to some, something more mischievous — came as Obama was complaining Thursday about the debate in Philadelphia the night before.
Bloggers were quick to note that as the Illinois senator scolded his Democratic rival for her performance at the debate, he raised his right hand and scratched his cheek with one finger. That finger.
“This is one of those political moments that really needs few words,” wrote the Los Angeles Times in a blog. “He’ll no doubt deny it later, but that mischievous smile seems to confirm plenty. And the crowd sure sees something.”
Not the first time Hillary’s gotten The Finger!
Here’s how the military feels about Hillary:
http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/hillary_soldier_finger_duress.PNG
PRICELESS!
McCain would say this lead is down to a C*nt Hair’s width!
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/18/obamas-lead-in-national-poll-shrinks-following-debate/
Obama’s Lead in National Poll Shrinks Following Debate
by FOXNews.com
Friday, April 18, 2008
A new national poll shows Barack Obama’s once-healthy lead shrinking to a hair’s width, suggesting his defensive performance at the Wednesday debate in Philadelphia may have hurt him.
That’s “finga” to you white folks Max. :D
Regular, had to leave so just now reading your new comments about the Rand study. I found the study on line and a free download is availble, if you are interested in reading it. As a supporter of the troops, I’m sure you would really want to get to the bottom of what is happening with our troops.
http://rand.org/pubs/monographs/MG720/
And…………..in one of your comments I read where you referred to your blog. I would be very interested in visiting it, if you are allowed to post it here.
Clinton/Obama have reduced themselves down to road rage and personal attacks.
They both need a timeout.
Thanks for the link kccitydude.
My political/government blog is way outdated and after revising it last year I dumped a lot of archives, so it’s pretty empty.
Since I can make any kind of blog, my most active blogs are for my graphics works that I do. I’d rather not post them here though (for my own reasons and NDA type of things)
But, here the link to one of the blogs.
http://republikan.typepad.com/republikansan/2008/02/this-is-a-new-p.html
I also had an environmental blog, but no one was interested in it, so it’s antiquated.
I don’t get any sign-ins, but do get quite a few hits. Stopped updating it as there was no interest in it generally.
Is Hillary suffering from ED,(Excessive Dishonesty)
Spending Time Dreaming Up Stories?
Maybe she’s been taking ‘LIAGRA’
“I was shot at by snipers”
“I was for/no against NAFTA”
“Illegals should/no shouldn’t get drivers licenses”
“I didn’t know Bill was a cheater or even like cigars.”
“Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on 9/11″
“White Water????”
“Travelgate????”
“What Pardons????”
Yep…that’s what ‘LIAGRA’ will do for you!
Benefits:
1. Stronger, longer lasting fabrications
2. Tell lies faster with more enthusiasm
3. Removes all sense of remorse
4. Even believe your own made up stories
Warnings:
*Do not use product if you have a conscience
*The speed with which you can tell lies may exceed lung capacity, stop using if short of breath.
*Loss of vision (philosophically speaking)
*Expect loss of hearing (criticism)
*Antidote–exorcist
First Hillary accues Barak of:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/the_pennsylvania_democratic_de.html
SEN. CLINTON: “Well, I think that is a fair general statement, but I also believe that Senator Obama served on a board with Mr. Ayers for a period of time, the Woods Foundation, which was a paid directorship position.
And if I’m not mistaken, that relationship with Mr. Ayers on this board continued after 9/11 and after his reported comments, which were deeply hurtful to people in New York, and I would hope to every American, because they were published on 9/11 and he said that he was just sorry they hadn’t done more. And what they did was set bombs and in some instances people died.”
From his corner–
Then Brarak responds and defends himself by saying Nah Nah Boo Boo – Bill Was Friends with the Weather Undergound Terrorists Too!
SENATOR OBAMA: “I’m going to have to respond to this just really quickly, but by Senator Clinton’s own vetting standards, I don’t think she would make it, since President Clinton pardoned or commuted the sentences of two members of the Weather Underground, which I think is a slightly more significant act than me ”
Time
Out
For both of em!
roflmao!!!
(Can’t wait to see SNL this week!)
First Hillary is against gun ownership, then she is for it.
Or, maybe it depends on where you live. Yeah, that’s it, in some parts of the US, the 2nd Amendment isn’t good for you. In other parts of the US, the 2nd Amendment is good for you.
Clinton and Obama both CLAIM to support the 2nd Amendment, and the right of the individual to keep and bear arms –
except for when a state or city like Washington DC regulates away guns — then that’s OK.
Thanks Max,
I can’t believe I forgot to add the vacillation on the 2nd. Amendment.
Oh you bet Linda, we do rescue and my dogs pretty much except anything that comes through the door. They seem to have an innate ability to distinguish the difference between ‘temporary’ and ‘permanent’ additions to the household.
Which reminds me, it has been two or three days since I have been told there are two viable candidates for the Demos.
Regular—-Thanks
THEME SONG FOR MAX’S DAILY RANT
They’re Coming to Take Me Away
Napoleon the 14th
Remember when you ran away
And I got on my knees and begged you
Not to go because I’d go berserk?
WELL,
You left me anyhow and
Then the days got worse and worse
And now you see I’ve gone completely
out of my mind,
AND
[1st chorus]
They’re coming to take my guns,
Haha, then they’re coming to take me too,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the funny farm
Where Life is Beautiful all the time
And I’ll be happy to see
Those Nice Young Men
In their Clean White Coats
And they’re coming to take me AWAY,
HA HAAAAA
You thought it was a joke,
and so you LAUGHED, YOU LAUGHED
When I had said that losing my guns
Would make me flip my lid,
RIGHT?
You know you laughed.
I HEARD you laugh, you laughed
And laughed and laughed
And then you left,
And now you see I’m Utterly Mad
AND
[second chorus]
They’re coming to take my guns,
Haha, then they’re coming to take me too,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the Happy Home with Trees and Flowers
And Chirping Birds and basket weavers
Who sit and smile and
Twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they’re coming to Take me Away,
HAHAAAAAAAAA
I earned my food,
I built my house,
And this is how you pay me back
For all my unkind selfish capitalist deeds
RIGHT?
Well, you just wait,
They’ll get you yet,
And when they do, they’ll put you in
the ASPCA, you mangy MUTT,
AND
(chorus 1)
(chorus 2)
(chorus 1 trailing into mumbles in the distance)
Two thumbs down for peg leg’s song, oops that’s four peg, nope hair square, my bad, four square… wut eva…
:D
Damn, didnt know this was a rating/review thread! LOL
THE UN-RETOUCHED VERSION [EXCELLENT SONG]
They’re Coming to Take Me Away
Napoleon the 14th
Remember when you ran away
And I got on my knees and begged you
Not to go because I’d go berserk?
WELL,
You left me anyhow and
Then the days got worse and worse
And now you see I’ve gone completely
out of my mind,
AND
[chorus 1]
They’re coming to take me away,
Haha, they’re coming to take me away,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the funny farm
Where Life is Beautiful all the time
And I’ll be happy to see
Those Nice Young Men
In their Clean White Coats
And they’re coming to take me AWAY,
HA HAAAAA
You thought it was a joke,
and so you LAUGHED, YOU LAUGHED
When I had said that losing you
Would make me flip my lid,
RIGHT?
You know you laughed.
I HEARD you laugh, you laughed
And laughed and laughed
And then you left,
And now you see I’m Utterly Mad
AND
[chorus 2]
They’re coming to take me away,
Haha, they’re coming to take me away,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the Happy Home with Trees and Flowers
And Chirping Birds and basket weavers
Who sit and smile and
Twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they’re coming to Take me Away,
HAHAAAAAAAAA
I cooked your food,
I cleaned your house,
And this is how you pay me back
For all my kind unselfish loving deeds
RIGHT?
Well, you just wait,
They’ll get you yet,
And when they do, they’ll put you in
the ASPCA, you mangy MUTT,
AND
(chorus 1)
(chorus 2)
(chorus 1 trailing into mumbles in the distance)
All John Deere cap, no tractors, farm girl. Why don’t you let one of those hair kissers smell your finger?
Cool. Obama and Clinton are in a statistical tie again.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/106630/Gallulp-Daily-Clinton-Moves-Within-Points-Obama.aspx
Beber must you be a total pervert all the time?? Geez!!
When is Limbaugh throwing his “operation chaos” party for you loyal limbaughtimies, Outie??
Still no answers to my questions doorking?
beber=scroll over territory
“beber doorking”?
I’ve got me a tetherpaul and a Regular punching bag.
But I’m starting to see you as one tremendous ass desperately in search of a foot.
“Step right up! Get your porno links right here at the WEBlog. Tell your friends, tell your kids, this is where to go for porno links. Yes sir, and all sponsored by the Wichita Eagle!”
I TOLD you registration wouldn’t help.
The reason I knew is because “Regualar” was all for it.
He knew registration wouldn’t stop him.
You should ask him to stop. He IS the one who has bragged about his “blog warfare software” and claimed he would “turn the blog into hell”.
He’s yours politically. Ask him to stop.
“You should ask him to stop. He IS the one who has bragged about his “blog warfare software” and claimed he would “turn the blog into hell”.”
[BlueJay]
Better watch out B J, he will want you to post a link to prove it! ROFL!
But I’m starting to see you as one tremendous ass desperately in search of a foot.
beber, you might want to cut out the exceptionally crude Neanderthal personal attacks. Apparently you have some personal issues with pmom and ksfarmgrrl. We get it.
That doesn’t mean we have to give a shit. As they say in bars, take it outside.
You can occasionally post intelligent or amusing comments–do you really want to be better known as a petty little annoyance?
beber
Posted April 18, 2008 at 6:11 pm | Permalink
All John Deere cap, no tractors, farm girl. Why don’t you let one of those hair kissers smell your finger?
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That would be a Lethal Weapon.
It’s Hillarious when all the Libs get P-O when Obama and Clinton’s WORDS are posted!
Square Peg, it’s about time for you to sign-off and go back to being Chas.
And my kinda guy. Now this guy would have made a great president, no Edwards, not Colbert. hahahaha
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Colbert-edWords.mov
Wow! Chas appeared all of a sudden and Square Peg went away!
What happened to that girl version of Chas, oh, what was her name….
Sugar!
Max, I have heard of this illness where people talk to imaginary people. The only way I know who Chas is, is because you and your geek brigade keep trying to make me into Chas. Every Day, Every Night, SS DD. Why dont you get it? I even posted my real name here, and still you keep it up.
Either you must be dense, or your hormones need adjusted — Which is it?
That’s weird Max – I dont see Chas posting here anywhere. Must be those hormones out of whack, Max. Better get that fixed. Is that why you dont want a black man, or a woman to run for President? Hormone problem, Max? Or is it a mental problem?
Chas/Square Peg, IF ANYBODY IS ILL, IT BE YOU!!!!!
ROFLMAO!
According to tax filings released today, McCain’s net worth rose by $18 million since 1999. So is that includes what he wife made or just him.
Square Peg–you are sooooooo right about what the right did to Kerry over his rich wife. I hope we Democrat are better by not making an issue out of McCain’s wealthy wife. After all, the lady has smarts. Had John sign a pre-nup.
Oh Square Peg, I’M SURE YOU WON’T ALLOW CHAS TO POST NOW!
LOL!
(Sorry, my stroke causeth my fingers to TypE iN AlL CaPs somEtiMes.)
Max loves guns and god, but cant tell which is which. Max is a racist/sexist SOB. No wonder Iowa doesnt want Max on their Blogs.
Square Peg, it’s about time for you to sign-off and go back to being Chas.
Aw, c’mon, Sergei, this is getting ridiculous. Enough!
The fact is, “Max” “Chas” and “SquarePeg” are all creations of the same mind.
Sergei, isn’t about time we admitted to the blog’s readers that there are only 2 of us? Yes, that’s right, folks! I, Hagbard Celine, sell insurance, and create roughly half of the WEBlog’s characters. Sergei creates the rest.
I thought it was time to come clean.
We discussed over cocktails last Saturday. It really started when I suggested discontinuing the Regular character. I felt it had outlived it’s entertainment value, but Sergei insists on bringing it back. He says the resulting drama made it worth it.
I also thought the running joke (where we accuse one of the other’s creations as also being one of our own!)–was getting old, too. I thought the readers were getting tired of it, and smart ones would realize they were being played.
That’s when I decided to remind our loyal readers that none of this was real. Heck, sometimes it takes too much time away from my insurance business anyway. Besides, when my co-creator turns 18, he’s gonna have to start working for a living! (”Skate punk” is not a job, Sergei!) I will have a very hard time writing the whole blogs myself.
But, for now, I hope you, our dear readers, have enjoyed the show! Thank you!
Sincerely,
Hagbard Celine
Co-creator, The WEBlog Zoo
Well, Hagbard (Rage) I suppose your story would explain a good bit of the foolishness that happens daily on this rag. Hee hee Rag(e). Too much!!
Shoot Rage,
I was gonna sign is as the “Bloginator” too.
(sniff)
Did we forget this early LIE by Hillary?
“On a first-lady goodwill tour of Asia in April 1995—the kind of banal trip that she now claims as part of her foreign-policy “experience”—Mrs. Clinton had been in Nepal and been briefly introduced to the late Sir Edmund Hillary, conqueror of Mount Everest. Ever ready to milk the moment, she announced that her mother had actually named her for this famous and intrepid explorer. The claim “worked” well enough to be repeated at other stops and even showed up in Bill Clinton’s memoirs almost a decade later, as one more instance of the gutsy tradition that undergirds the junior senator from New York.
Sen. Clinton was born in 1947, and Sir Edmund Hillary and his partner Tenzing Norgay did not ascend Mount Everest until 1953, so the story was self-evidently untrue and eventually yielded to fact-checking.”
Yep, presidential material to follow in the footsteps of her lying husband.
So Hillary was an unknown quantity until 1953?
OR is Amway just another sexist right wing nut who cant handle a woman being President??
SquarePeg (I mean Chas),
There was nothing in my post which I provided for you to infer the conclusion you posted. It was just a personal attack.
Did you have a point to your post, or was this just a typical flame?
I asdked you if Hillary (Edmund) was an unknown quantity until 1953! That, dumba$$, is a legitimate question. And with your ddaily attacks on Clinton, its a safe bet you are a sexcist, and opposed to a female president. Now, where is there an attack there?
Sounds like Squarehead is sexist and opposed to a female president.
I suspect Hud suffers from Anal Retinitis.
And I also suspect Hud cannot Read.
Oh, I can read just fine. Did I miss something?
Yea, you missed me saying ANYthing about being against hillary or being a sexist. Yet, you posted the LIE anyway. Thus, you must not be able to comprehend what you think you can read.
Anal Retinitis means your Anal nerve is connected to your Retinal nerve, and it gives you a Sh**ty outlook on life!
KFG, no he’s really not Puppy. Puppy looks 100 times more decent than Molester Beber does.
They are about the same age though. Are you posting over there?
Beber, please call me a bitch in every post. Trust me, coming from you that’s SO a compliment.
BTW, AmWay — Chas does not appear to be poisting here tonight. Try a reality check. My nic is SquarePeg. My name is Southar Wood Park. The only thing I know about Chas is that you and the rest of the geek brigade seem to have this rather stupid, idiotic notion that I am Chas.
Now, get it through your brain, if you have one, I am not Chas. And you will be reminded of that every time you try to make that qssinine connection again.
“Yea, you missed me saying ANYthing about being against hillary or being a sexist.”
I used the same logic you used to make designate AmWay a sexist; I made it up.
Hud, I don’t think it’s worth arguing with this poster. It’s like trying to put a square peg in a round hole. You can beat on it all day long, but all you do is damage both the peg and hole.
“Never pick a fight with an ugly person, they’ve got nothing to lose~Robin Williams”
AmWay, Square Peg/Chas you will find trolling this blog like a Carp. He sucks off the bottom and wraps his lips around EVERY post as if HE is obligated to serve as Lead Bottom Feeder on this Blog.
Feed him a worm, a shiny piece of trash, a tin can, and he’ll latch onto it with his fish lips and suck it till he’s full.
Ahhh but AmWay, a simple bonedig would easily show your numerous attacks on Clinton’s gender to prove my point. But that isnt necessary, since all of the Clinton supporters already know your sexist stance against her. So you see, I didnt make up anything! Not to mention that you dug up an incident from 13 years ago, 1995, to try to make a point about the present. That crap wont fly in this election cycle, no matter who the candidates are in November.
Well Max, I haven’t been on much lately, and haven’t figured out who is who in the zoo since registration. I had glanced up today’s posts and saw something similiar to how others have been re-identifying other posters. I didn’t read close enough to realize the poster claims to be someone else.
But how do you know “southar” is a male?
I am a Male. The name is from an old Southern Family tradition. My ancestors were 18th Century Southern Anglican settlers from England.
And, one more time, now, I am not Chas!
Get it??
Stupid:
SquarePeg
Posted April 18, 2008 at 8:34 pm | Permalink
I asdked you if Hillary (Edmund) was an unknown quantity until 1953! That, dumba$$, is a legitimate question. And with your ddaily attacks on Clinton, its a safe bet you are a sexcist, and opposed to a female president. Now, where is there an attack there?
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Egotistical and Assinie:
SquarePeg
Posted April 18, 2008 at 8:53 pm | Permalink
Yea, you missed me saying ANYthing about being against hillary or being a sexist. Yet, you posted the LIE anyway. Thus, you must not be able to comprehend what you think you can read.
Anal Retinitis means your Anal nerve is connected to your Retinal nerve, and it gives you a Sh**ty outlook on life!
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The Liar South Park:
SquarePeg
Posted April 18, 2008 at 8:57 pm | Permalink
BTW, AmWay — Chas does not appear to be poisting here tonight. Try a reality check. My nic is SquarePeg. My name is Southar Wood Park.
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“an incident from 13 years ago, 1995,”
It’s like CapnAmerica says, “Once a liar – always a liar.” That rings true for the most part and reflects on Hillary’s character, as does the company she keeps.
I don’t believe your “bonedig” will bring up anything sexist I’ve stated about Hillary(or any woman). It will turn up I voted for Obama in the caucus and support him over McLame. It will also turn up that I am not really a true “con”, as I’ve voted for candidates from both parties. Additionally, even those who don’t really care for my posts, will acknowledge I’ve dogged ALL parties and candidates.
Don’t know who you were in the past. I don’t recall your NIC during the last year. But mines out there – bone dig away….
South Park, the sequel to Bevis and Butthead.
#
SquarePeg
Posted April 18, 2008 at 9:06 pm | Permalink
Ahhh but AmWay, a simple bonedig would easily show your numerous attacks on Clinton’s gender to prove my point. But that isnt necessary, since all of the Clinton supporters already know your sexist stance against her. So you see, I didnt make up anything! Not to mention that you dug up an incident from 13 years ago, 1995, to try to make a point about the present. That crap wont fly in this election cycle, no matter who the candidates are in November.
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hmmmmmmmmmmmm,
Squarepants said “bone dig.”
huahuahuahua
And yet again, MMAX cannot read: My name is Southar Wood Park. Cant you get anything right Max? Ooops, that was a dumb question.
AmWay, ANYONE who attacks Clinton – her lies, her record, her positions on the issues, will be called anti-woman.
ANYONE who attacks Obama – his lies, his record, his positions on the issues, will be called racist.
It’s the Fascist way of dealing with your opponent. Attack them, belittle them PERSONALLY, because you cannot defend your own warped and corrupt views any other way.
SquaredRoot is an Anglican – kind of Crapn and I think Chas tends to leans towards.
We be invaded by Anglicans!
I wonder if the local Anglican Church is unleashing its congregation on the WE Blog.
Someone should investigate!
Max,
I agree with your post and the postings the last few days confirm it. Everytime anyone posts something negative on either liberal candidate they are attacked and belittled.
It takes small minds…..
and their postings with name calling identifies them.
SquarePeg
Posted April 18, 2008 at 9:20 pm | Permalink
And yet again, MMAX cannot read: My name is Southar Wood Park
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Uhhhhh
Squarebottom said “wood”
Almost sounds like a south name, but more like a South Korean name. Southar Wood Park or Il Park Soon or Park Mi Suk (pronounced soo)
AmWay, prior to the recent Registration process, I posted as : : (square peg) I have not been posting for very long on WE Blog. I chose my nic, because I am a Liberal, but work for a very Consevative Corporation in the City. In fact, I sort of “own” it in a strange sort of way. Since I am a Liberal in a Conservative Corp., the name SquarePeg fits fairly good!
Now if you geek brigade people can just get that through your small minds, I think this Blog has possibilities. If not, well…..
REgular, give it up. If you want to write fiction, go hire a publisher. The Blog has enough lies without you adding more to it.
sort of “own” it…
sort has a tail…
sort of looks up when he’s looking down
sort of traveling out of the city when he’s in town
sort of minding matters, putting on a frown…
waiting for the circus and all it’s spanky clowns.
Well AmWay, it’s time to start ignoring the children, in the interest of a real discussion.
It’s too bad those bottom feeders can do nothing but launch personal attacks on those they disagree with.
You see my critique of the Clinton/Obama debates on the poorly named “ABC NEWS was the loster” topic last night AmWay?
I started here, and went straight down the transcript of the great debate:
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333024
Not exactly a Lincoln/Doublas level of debate, more so like the childish Beevis and Butthead types one encounters most frequently on this blog.
pronounced, “bak mee sook”?
That would be Douglas, if I could type.
Darn stroke I had years ago, minor in nature you know….
Now, the entire Blog can see the weay in which Regular wwelcomes(Not) a new blogger. Lies, insinuations, and other disturbed postings. Real nice work there, Regular. Did somebody tell you that you own this Blog or did you just decide it for yourself?
(plays a very small violin …~~~sad music~~~)
There’s nothing to see here just the SS DD!!
I do hope you imbeciles have fun!! Good job on killing a Thread!! A$$Holes!!
Interesting to see Clinton vs Clinton on the campaign trail:
(From all places, the former Clinton Camp – CNN!)
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/17/mann.bill.clinton/
Bill Clinton’s gaffes stump Hillary
• A comment that enraged many African-Americans. Bill Clinton said that Barack Obama’s opposition to the war in Iraq was a “fairy tale.” At the time, it was seen as a belittling slight.
• An unexpected conflict-of-interest. Hillary demoted her chief advisor after he admitted that Colombia paid his firm $300,000 to help arrange a trade deal with the U.S. that she campaigned against. It turns out that Bill Clinton was paid $800,000 for work for a Colombia-based group that supports the deal too.
• A slip resuscitated. Weeks after Hillary Clinton told, and then put to rest, an embarrassingly untrue account of having visited Bosnia under ’sniper fire,’ he brought up the story again. He apparently meant to defend her, but unwittingly put her story, plus his own misstatements, back into the news. That was when she told him to back off. She also issued a statement that she “appreciated” her husband’s help, but that she would be the one to address what actually happened. Ouch.
“Every time she seems to get some traction, Bill Clinton comes along and says something that throws her off again,” says journalist and author Cokie Roberts.
(FKA Clitoris Roberts for the reaction she had on-screen when talking about Bill!)
“Good job on killing a Thread!!”
Darn it! Max are you playing with your gun again?
And John Glasgow is still missing!
Where is he Hillary?
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/mar/14/clinton-library-builders-cfo-vanishes-leaving-ques/
Clinton library builder’s CFO vanishes, leaving questions, no clues
Associated Press
Originally published 11:12 a.m., March 14, 2008
Updated 11:12 a.m., March 14, 2008
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — The stress of restructuring the construction company that built the Clinton Presidential Library gave John Glasgow every reason to run away.
A seven-figure salary, a chance to buy part of a firm jointly owned by department-store chain Dillard’s Inc. and a life lived in good spirits gave him every reason to stay.
Glasgow has been missing since before sunup Jan. 28; his car was found abandoned the next day at a state park. Family and police say it’s impossible to tell whether Glasgow killed himself, was abducted or left to start a new life elsewhere.
Max,
I didn’t see your observations of the debate, I went back but they are very detailed so it will take awhile to digest them.
Personally, I don’t think either candidate looked like a leader to me. But to be fair – neither does Mclame. I do believe this last debate was too predetermined. By that I mean, the script was too well written, and allowed for the measured responses of the candidates.
I perked up when they talked about whom they would increase taxes on. Hillary clearly said those making over 250K (but she lies so much what can you believe?). Didn’t Obama fudge a little with his response. I think he said 200K, but “it would depend upon the circumstances”. That leaves it pretty wide open!
I also found it interesting that both candidates, like most in their party, in the past bombasted the evil “Bush Tax Cuts”.
Apparently, the democrats now openly acknowledge that much of the Bush Tax Cuts were a good thing and helped the lower and middle class. This is an amazing switch. Why? Because they realize the truth and want to be elected. Can’t REPEAL TAX CUTS WHICH HELPED THE MIDDLE CLASS AND POOR, now can we?
I don’t know how they stir their switch into the koolaid every night, but they are good at it. Not one media person picked up on it, and certainly no one on the weblog. Probably a sedatives or something to mellow them out.
Max, you are a sorry excuse for a human being, particularly with the way you carry on about being such a strong believer in your god (or i that your gun) — I have seen you make fun of another poster’s affliction after a stroke.
I just watched my Father die from the after effects of a stroke. It isnt pretty. And to sit here and observe one mindless idiotic poster make fun of a poster who has repeatedly apologized for bad typing because of a stroke, and to watch that same small minded poster, MAX, continue to make fun of that other poster repeatedly, and then proclaim his religious faith with such banal pride — And then people wonder why I threw God out of my life equation years ago. People like MAX constntly reinforce my decision.
Which is more important to you Max? Your god, or your GUN? Your god, or your beloved MONEY? Think about it, Max. The Blog might even be watching for your answer. Me, I am going to do something more constructive.
Yeah Hud, twirling the twin six-shooters holstering and drawing, holstering and drawing….
Hard to type at the same time, but I manage.
I see the most eloquent blogger has left us. Oh, how shall we bear the loss?
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SquarePeg
Posted April 18, 2008 at 9:41 pm | Permalink
There’s nothing to see here just the SS DD!!
I do hope you imbeciles have fun!! Good job on killing a Thread!! A$$Holes!!
Say Square Peg, with my gun I may be able to retain my right to worship my God.
And you may be able to worship whatever it is you believe in, if you believe in anything at all.
And I’m so bitter, I cling to my guns. And I cling to my religion.
Oh, what will I do if the Government doesn’t give me a job, give me healthcare, give me a college education, give me food, give me water, give me clothing, give me a house, give me a car, give me a dog, give me a woman, give me kids, give me the right to ask for more gimmee?
AmWay, you see how Barack stumbled when asked how the Bush tax cuts resulted in increased Revenue collected by the Federal Government?
There’s actually some meat to that debate, in spite of the criticism of the moderators. Some very good questions were asked. Some very poor answers were provided.
I wonder how a liberal can ’sorta own’ a conservative company. Doesn’t the owner set the tenor of a company?
“And then people wonder why I threw God out of my life equation years ago. People like MAX constntly reinforce my decision.”
Max, AmWay – Want hear something funny. Well not hear but see.
Click on the “SquarePeg” link. Link = his NIC naming the post.
The Economic Stimulous Act of 2008 was signed by both Clinton and Obama, authorizing tax cuts to everybody even if they paid no taxes!
So, if tax cuts are such a bad thing, why did Clinton and Obama sign-off on this tax refund package this year?
Max you might be celebrating too early – “I see the most eloquent blogger has left us. Oh, how shall we bear the loss?”
How many million did :: make last month?
Good catch Hud!
Must be Chas.
True KSgrm. He’ll never leave.
And he is so rich, he has all the time in the world to blog from his Lear jet!
Ksgrm, you catch the great debate?
I missed it, but read the transcript. I actually prefer to read the transcripts vs watching the debates because:
1) You focus on WHAT was said vs HOW it was said, or how pretty or ugly someone looked, or how their voice sounded, or whether they held up their middle finger or not…
2) I can read a 2-hour debate in 20 minutes. Saves time!
3) Miss the commercials!
4) Don’t have to look at em!
Max, it isnt a tax refund for starters. make sure you stay on the right page now…
ksgrm — quie simple really — When y Father died rather suddenly, the Board of Directors named me as their CEO, to take over fod Dad. In turn, I agreed to not allow my personal beliefs or politics to interfere in the way the corp. does its business. Thus I am Square Peg :-)
WEBLOG: Please this blog needs a monitor. Now that you have registration – please start putting it to good use. If you are too busy to pull posts, at least consder enforcing your registrations.
The below example illustrates the kind of posts, that with moderation, would cut down drastically on the flame wars and juvenile conduct.
All these posts were name-calling and intented to provoke other posters into a childish day on YOUR blog. If not for the maturity of the other bloggers, the entire day would be short on opinions but long on flame attacks:
Each line is from SEPARATE posts by the NIC
SquarePeg:
… if you like sex with young girls so much, that compound in TX must sound like heaven on earth to you!!
You must need your vision checked, unless you are normally this stupid.
THEME SONG FOR MAX’S DAILY RANT
Beber must you be a total pervert all the time?
Either you must be dense, or your hormones need adjusted
Hormone problem, Max? Or is it a mental problem?
Max is a racist/sexist SOB.
OR is Amway just another sexist right wing nut who cant handle a woman being President??
suspect Hud suffers from Anal Retinitis
And I also suspect Hud cannot Read
Anal Retinitis means your Anal nerve is connected to your Retinal nerve, and it gives you a Sh**ty outlook on life
the rest of the geek brigade seem to have this rather stupid, idiotic
your brain, if you have one
Ooops, that was a dumb question.
Now if you geek brigade people can just get that through your small minds
Did somebody tell you that you own this Blog or did you just decide it for yourself?
do hope you imbeciles have fun!! Good job on killing a Thread!! A$$Holes
you are a sorry excuse for a human being
And I’ll post SquarePeg’s first post as last, because it is sorta like the pot calling the kettle black. If only this poster would look in a mirror:
“a good bit of the foolishness that happens daily on this rag”
Please remove these posts, moderate, or enforce the registration with force!
For anyone who wants to study a REAL series of debates, I recommend the Lincoln/Douglas debates of 1858:
http://www.nps.gov/archive/liho/debates.htm
You will discover what true intelligent debate is like, prior to the days of a corrupt and incompetent public edukation system.
The speakers and the audience are all much more informed and better educated then the modern and sophiticated Americans of the 21st century. See how we have devolved 150 years later, by comparison.
Chas/::/Square Peg/Sugar, you dare not read these debates. You shall not understand.
Max I did catch it and knew right away unless McCain becomes a wanted criminal or something else as horrendous that like it or not he will be prez.
Obama finally got the hard questions and after the deer in the headlight look he tilted his head in the air and looked arrogant. The true personality is coming out. After being refreshing when no one knew him he has shown himself to be the worst liberal in DC. Poor Hillary has just shown herself to be untrustworthy and someone to be shown pity.
It’s sad that McCain or the 3rd Bush as the libs like to say has a likeability rating better than Hill or Barry JR.
It is just amazing how much :: and Chas have in common. The link behind Square Peg was one used by Chas.
:: we have a blogger who can’t afford insurance for his son. Since you are a liberal millionaire could you help him with that?
EVERY con blogger this evening except grmie is just a puppet of James.
With all of that private jet flying I wonder what the carbon footprint of :: looks like?
Gosh Amway if you woulld post the entire contents of what I have posted, the Editors might give me a medal. You care to submit even MORE LIES??
You imbeciles cant even get my name straight in your wee brains!! You are such idiotic jokes — the whole bunch of you!!
And we have another blogger who needs a computer.
And didn’t someone get their gas turned off?
Sorry lot. But now I have a better understanding on their political positions.
They are the ones with their hands stretched out full of nothing, and their mouths movin’ saying “gimmee”.
JR I am trying to help you out here. I think it would only be fair – as Obama said over and over and over again – for :: to help you out. We all believe in fairness and how can you be a good lib and not shares the spoils of daddy’s conservative corporation.
KsGrm, I am sure if whoever you are refeerring to were to contact our Firm, we could possible be of some assistance on affordable health care.
“EVERY con blogger this evening except grmie is just a puppet of James.”
Bluejay: Prove it and REPORT IT TO THE WEBLOG.
If it is true, they will take care of the problem.
Otherwise, your rants are really getting old.
(ho-hum).
No offense, and I am not calling you names. But you are in fact lumping me into your writings, and I feel I needed to respond.
You are also wasting space with such posts. What is the profit in doing so? What is the gain?
I know you are capable of posting original thoughts and opinions on other posters opinions. Can we stick to that?
KSgrm, I am NOT FOR McCain. I only see him as the best incompetent candidate. McCain is the least worst of the worst. McCain is the lesser of 3 evils.
I won’t pretent to be FOR him, though I can name a few positions of his that are less bad then Clinton and Obama’s.
I am (surprise!) against Obama and Clinton, and have in the past enumerated my reasons why. Why I don’t know, no one reads the logical points of criticism.
IF, and it is a big IF, we who would prefer a rational debate could ignore the mosquitos of disruptors on this blog, and actually HAVE a discussion, that would be most interesting and enlightening for all.
The finer points surrounding the proper role of Government might be discussed for example, and the importance of Freedom and other rights might be shown to have a higher priority as compared to the power of a gifting, corrupt, and controlling government.
Months ago I attempted to offer a list of Commonalities, which 80% of us would likely agree to, though I was being much too optimistic given the Liberal audience that is encrusted to this blog.
Maybe another day, and on another blog….
What is the “Firm” name, telephone number, and a point of contact?
I don’t want any of your brand of help grmie.
KsGrm, I havent observed You attempting to help Anybody on this Blog. And you, for all of your religiosity, make fun of poster J R nearly every opportunity you get. Does whatever religion you profess allow you to treat people in such a manner, because they are in antipathy to your own socio-economic strata?? You are yet another person on this Blog who makes me thrilled for removing god from my life equation.
And while you are at it, do you think you could pick up the trash you leave on the Blog when you leave? You can really make a mess here! LOL
Did anyone who watched the debate notice how the liberals now have a platform to double-team the republican candidate?
Works well for them. They are great at re-directing and pointing fingers.
AmWay you beat me. :: that is admirable just post the info we need and we will send all of the needy your way.
Ignore the mosquitos. OFF with them. Slap them silly, squish them into oblivion with continued and uninterrupted rational debate.
With that, I must break to partake of beer and evil pipe tobacco. The sweet aroma shall encircle my head like a wreath, and my beer belly shall shake when I laugh…..
If my wife attacks me and ravishes me all night, I shall not be able to come back tonight!
Perhaps we shall meet again.
“No offense, and I am not calling you names.”
One may smile and smile and be a villain James.
I’m not going to get into nic confusion on the left.
MY side didn’t start it. James made that and so many other difficulties here.
Max I live for the day we can have adult discussions on this blog.We are much more alike that different but unfortunately the blog brings out the worst in the best of us. I plead guilty on most nights.
“just post the info we need”
Even an email address and name would be fine.
We don’t want a generic email address, without a name. Anyone could look one of those up on the web….
Damn, it is even worse WITH registration – and the right wing naturally blames it all on the EVIL liberals.
What a waste.
I’m glad I don’t have a “side”….
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BlueJay
Posted April 18, 2008 at 10:17 pm | Permalink
EVERY con blogger this evening except grmie is just a puppet of James.
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What a moron…
:: you are so judgemental for someone who ‘hasn’t been around long’ and what did you mean bring JR’s name into your post. How caring is that. How do you know what I don’t do or for that matter what I do.
For someone who has kicked your God to the curb shouldn’t you remove the Unitarian webpage from your nic. Wouldn’t want to steer your fellow libs down the wrong path now would you.
THERE he is!
Notice how any time I call out James’s puppet nics he AMAZINGLY shows up?
I got your number fella.
What I gotta figure out is when I finally take you down?
How many “kills” do I mark under my canopy? Just the one for you or one for each of your nics?
JR while you are busting multiple nics could you look at ::, NN, DAS, Chas, Sugar; I personally think they have a lot in common.
The only thing you have J R is your hand down your pants.
While doing some work on the computer, I occasionally read the blog.
Don’t flatter yourself “fella.”
You just ain’t got it.
In fact, you got nothin…
:: I think I might have missed the vital info we need to pass along to the needy. Could you post it again.
Thanks,
I cannot say there ksgrm.
And as I HAVE said, multi nic ing and making nics irrelevant was the invention of the poster variously known as JM, “Kansas” Republican, Republikhan etc, etc.
You police your own and then I’ll look at mine.
:: is nto chaqs!!! SERIOUSLY!!! HE isN’t!!!
Ksgrm, Amway, Regular, and any others who want a great debate, I propose we pick apart the great Obama/Clinton debate, ignoring every mosquito along the way. Should a mosquito have a rational comment, they would be welcome to the debate. Incessent buzzing should be ignored.
I posted a link to the transcript last night on the ABC Debate topic. I read the whole thing and made a few of my comments.
We could go down thru that transcript point by point, until we disect and debunk every comment and every lie of Clinton and Obama. It could be quite fun to have a rational debate, and expose the Left for what they truly have become.
I’m tied up all day tomorrow, but maybe tomorrow evening or Sunday…
Or y’all go at it without me, I made my main points yesterday, though I just scratched the surface.
Just a suggestion.
Off I must go now….
Evening Clark! Still professing there is some evil plot by the rightwing to undermine the youth of America?
Or were you just talking generalities about the blog?
I forgot —LOL, ROFLMAO, blah blah…OK, that’s all, just had to get it out of my system.
I hit a nerve James?
I’m GOOD at that.
Did oSama oBama really shoot the bird at Hillster? :D
“ignoring every mosquito along the way”
Is there something like 100 deet for the blog?
“Still professing there is some evil plot by the rightwing to undermine the youth of America?”
Huh? If you are going to pull gooey stuff like that out of your hindmost orifice, please let it air out a while before you post – you’re stinking up the blog.
Max good thought. I drove down to Grand Lake in OK today and back tonight and was just cking mail and looking the blog over. Maybe Sunday I will get a chance to look at it. Good Idea for sharing thoughts.
“I occasionally read the blog”
Come on Regular! You respond, well, too regularly when your NIC is mentioned.
Do you have a set GOOGLE advanced search set up?
James got out “Anti”
Who he originally nic’ed “ANTI JR”
Get out Pat Herron James. She was so wonderfully disgusting.
Go ahead get in drag. I’ll wait.
No Junior, you didn’t hit anything except for your hand in your pants.
I’ve been busy and am in a good mood.
Six concept art pieces done tonite and waaaaaaaay ahead of schedule, I’m a happy camper.
Reg, I believe Obama did give Hill the finger….But I can’t fault the guy for that.
The place was pretty smelly before I showed up tonight. And NOT by conservatives….
On that note, I’m outta here.
hanging around Junior, I’m liable to catch the red mange.
You’re fast on the keyboard James.
Why are you living on the government dole?
How is it you afford two houses on the government dole?
“I think I might have missed the vital info we need to pass along to the needy. Could you post it again.”
ksgrm, the braggadocio, SquarePeg, has mysteriously disappeared since being asked repeatedly for the information it said it could produce.
Something amusing for the “older” hunters out there-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nnYiExIe1g
Good night Regular. Thanks for ignoring my question to you. I think I’ve been pretty fair with you.
Thought you might respond in kind.
Anti, I’m not THAT old. Although I haven’t been called “bird dog” for over a decade….
Well I’ve done it before.
I’ll do it again.
Here is the rights shot at making ol’ J R a liar.
I want a meetup.
Now “Max” is supposed to live in Iowa so he is excused.
Even though he SAYS he managed to get to Texas to mess with their primary.
Here is the challenge.
Any place any time, show me “American way”, “Regular”, “ANTI”, “Boxlock” to name a few.
In the same place at the same time.
Disappeared?? I distinctly remember saying that if the needy individual contacted our Firm, we could quite likely help with some sort of arrangement of affordable health care. I definitely know I said nothing about posting an email address on this Blog. I might be the CEO, but I still operate under the directives of the Board of Directors.
I hear that
That might be difficult to accomplish, Blue Jay :-)
JR, I want a toilet made out of solid gold, but it isn’t going to happen…I don’t care to meet your sorry ass…don’t take it personal, it’s just I don’t care.
Looks like some of you works of brilliance dont have Clue what the UUA is all about!!
What a shame… But the Reich Wing would not be much “at home” in the UUA
I’d like to meet J R and Regular for lunch on Monday at about noon. If you guys are interested, respond to this post.
Oh, I’ll buy. I was thinking of the cafe at WaterMark…
Let me know.
My guess, is that Reg will coward out… I could be wrong, though.
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American_Way
Posted April 18, 2008 at 10:47 pm | Permalink
“I occasionally read the blog”
Come on Regular! You respond, well, too regularly when your NIC is mentioned.
Do you have a set GOOGLE advanced search set up?
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Sorry was listening to some music and relaxing.
Nope, just normally use the normal google, sometimes advanced, but not often.
Bluejay/JR. I’ve been trying my damnest to be nice and cordial since registration began.
But your preoccupation with WHO IS WHO is a huge waste of time and space, and is starting to annoy me. Not only do I tire of responding to your small-minded worry about the personal lives of other posters, but I am also tired of trying to find REAL posts between your almost psychological over concern with posters lives.
If I’ve posted it once, I’ve posted it one hundred times: EMAIL THE EDITOR OF THE WEBLOG WITH YOUR CONCERNS/WORRIES ABOUT NIC SWITCHERS.
They are the ONLY one’s qualified to maintain the integrity of the WEBLOG.
Not you.
Can you PLEASE post some opinions on the issues of the day? I dare you.
Looks like a religious organization ::- what is your point?
Sure, I’ll show up. Where’s water mark?
I have an orthotic appointment right after that time, so can’t stay long.
4 idiots to meet lil’ ol’ me and you take a pass “ANTI”?
I’ll sweeten it.
I’ll invite a semi known quantity. Another…target of mine.
Those I named and paulie.
Now paulie doesn’t mess with the open but we find each other. Much as I hate him, as far as I know he is no nic switcher.
Let’s have it out.
James made this mess. Registration didn’t clean it up.
So I volunteer.
The Watermark bookstore/cafe is at Douglas and Oliver. It is pretty close to my house and not too far away from Reg’s. I am not sure where J R lives, so I don’t know how much of a handicap it will be for him to get there.
It has good noon time food. I treat my sister there every so often.
ANTI,
With the growing population of senor citizens as Boomers reach their happy golden years, I would suggest investing in equities which manufacture
with the oldsters in mind:
http://disposablemedicalexpress.com/
“Another…target of mine”—-
yep…pretty sure I don’t care to met your sorry ass..and still don’t care about your control freak attitude. Just my opinion and expression of free will..take it however you wish.
A bit of blog history.
The first blog meetup started as a throwdown.
I’m interested Steven.
The puppeteer and problem child says he is.
Let’s see where this goes….
J R,
Is it an engagement? Let us know.
WaterMark is an independent bookstore and has stuff Reg would never want to read. The lunch time food and crowd is great, we would all have a great time.
Let us know, Jay…
Oh yeah, been in there once, rarely eat at that other cafe in the same mini-mall. Probably should get a hair cut and beard trim – look like Castaway (Tom Hanks)…WTH it maintains my ‘hermit’ image. :)
Actually, I read mostly technical/graphics/computer/ stuff.
My sister is the avid reader. She goes through 10 books a week at least.
Would that be Anti Em, or Anti Mame, or Anti Bea?? ROFL
Uh oh!
Looks like big bad me and Steven are amiable to meet James.
(That’s not far from me either Steven)
Now SURELY one of the MANY posters I attribute to James will want to show up to make an ass of me?
AmWay- love the “Fresh Again” incontinence spray!
On a side note- if you bird hunt (I am relatively new to this area), how is the quail population in around the Wichita area? I am looking forward to the fall and am curious if I should stay local or head to proven quail ground else where.
“But your preoccupation with WHO IS WHO is a huge waste of time and space, and is starting to annoy me. Not only do I tire of responding to your small-minded worry about the personal lives of other posters, but I am also tired of trying to find REAL posts between your almost psychological over concern with posters lives.” [AmWay]
I could take you a little more seriously, IF you didnt constantly side in with your little buddies, and one buddette, here who seem to have this very disturbing obsession with the poster, Chas. But what do you do?? You pile in on BlueJay, and say NOTHING to the others!!
Your name would be hypocrisy!!
I am not familiar with the bookstore.
I AM familiar with the area.
Bad wreck there when my son was 3 weeks old.
If I was not clear, I WILL be there.
Not much of a hunter Anti. My relatives do quail and pheasant hunting in Kansas, but have no idea where. Haven’t shot a firearm since qualifying for overseas in 89. :D
M-16 of course.
ANTI,
My shotguns are gathering dust so to speak. I was an advid pheasant hunter for most of my life. Quail?
Well, when I shot six shot into the midst of a flock which suddenly burst in front of me, and hit zip, I gave up on those little critters. Not much meat on the bone.
http://www.kdwp.state.ks.us/news/hunting/upland_birds/upland_bird_regional_forecast
http://www.quailrestoration.com/
Excellent fellows, let’s do it. Reg, I go to the barber shop there at the same mall where the WaterMark store is. The lady who cuts my hair is from Mexico and she is such an perfectionist, she can almost make me look good (not really, though).
Let’s say 12 noon. Looking forward to this.
Nite, all.
Let’s meet in front of WaterMark at 12 noon. I know what Jay looks like; I can imagine what James looks like. See you then.
Here’s a real issue for those people tired of reading stuff they don’t like
By Marc Lifsher, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
12:22 PM PDT, April 18, 2008
SACRAMENTO — California’s unemployment rate rose by a whopping half a percentage point in March, reaching 6.2% as a weakening economy shed jobs in the ailing construction and financial activities sectors. In all, 1.13 million were unemployed.
The Economic Development Department reported that March’s unemployment was the highest since July 2004, when the rate was also 6.2%.
Unemployment is up 1.2% from a year ago, with 229,000 more Californians looking for work.
Although total nonfarm jobs increased by 1,000 compared to February, the number of unemployed people rose by 84,000 last month, the state said.
“This is a huge increase,” said Howard Roth, chief economist for the state Department of Finance. He blamed the steady rise in joblessness — up from 5.0% in March 2007 — on deterioration of the crucial housing market. “The bubble has a slow leak, so it’s hard to tell how long it will take” to fully deflate, he said.
The rise in unemployment during March affected all of Southern California, with the worst effects in the Inland Empire. The rate in Riverside County — not seasonally adjusted — rose to 7.4% from 7.0%, while in San Bernardino County it rose to 6.7% from 6.3%.
Unemployment in Los Angeles County hit 5.8%, up three-tenths of a percentage point from the previous month.
The uptick in people losing their jobs “means more bad news ahead for state and local [government] budgets,” said Stephen Levy, director and chief economist of the Center for the Continuing Study of the California Economy in Palo Alto.
Next month, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and state lawmakers must grapple with plunging tax revenue and a projected $8-billion-plus budget deficit as they prepare the state’s spending plan for the fiscal year beginning July 1.
Levy noted that California’s unemployment rate is the third highest in the country, trailing Michigan with 7.2% and Alaska with 6.7%. California is doing worse than Pennsylvania and Ohio, Levy said, the two Rust Belt states that have figured prominently in the presidential primary elections because of their lost manufacturing jobs.
Good Pheasant hunting up in Pottawotomie County, and Waubansee County. Farmers are pretty friendly.
Also, out west in Seward County, and down around Pittsburg, KS –
Thanks Regular…I am from the SW part of the state, but for quail I go to a place in western OK…In the last 3 years haven’t shot a bird down there because the population dropped off. They go thru population cylces and when low we don’t shoot. From the history of past cycles this should be the beginning of a good population rebuild.
Annie,
Screw the left coast! Give me some numbers from right here in Kansas. That would mean something to me.
California? Just waiting for the big one. I have family in Reno, NV. Great location for new beach front property.
Thanks AmWay- Quail are tasty though!
::, I have hunted up in the Riley/Pot. county areas, wasn’t too bad. Best luck I have had for Pheasant is in SW KS or up around ksfarmgirl’s territory.
I’ve had the pee juice scared out of me by quail though, but that was when I was a kid and I suppose they were plentiful back then.
That was at Grandfather’s small farm down near Sedan.
There were more in Oklahoma at my Great Uncle’s farm across the border in Grant County, Oklahoma.
Course, my Great Uncle expected everyone to work when we visited, so didn’t see much hunting there. :D
Mucking out the barn wasn’t my idea of fun. :)
FFFTTTTDD, FFFFTTDD, FFFTTDD! yeah, they get me everytime when the take off!
Annie,
Screw the left coast! Give me some numbers from right here in Kansas. That would mean something to me.
Used to be the 5th largest economy on planet earth could get a little trickle down here.We aren’t immune to slowdowns ya know.
I just logged on and have read only the last couple of hours or so of posts.
What an odd little cyber-community we have here at WE Blog.
“Let’s meet in front of WaterMark at 12 noon. I know what Jay looks like; I can imagine what James looks like. See you then.”
I am sure we all individually retain the rights to describe the meeting. I am, of course, sure mine will be the most accurate…
Nite, again, all…
Most definitely, Monkey Hawk!!
MH- “What an odd little cyber-community we have here at WE Blog.”
That to me is a good thing
If asked I’ll describe it Steven, it’s no big deal to me. I know who I am.
It’s just others that are having difficulty in determining that.
I’ll be the dirty dish water blond-haired (my sister’s description) guy slightly bent over, walking slow – full beard, ragged hair, “birth control glasses (government issue).
Regular…best words to live by “I yam what I yam..”-popeye
Regular,
Do you have have a pen holder in your shirt pocket too?
SquarePeg
Posted April 18, 2008 at 10:20 pm | Permalink
KsGrm, I am sure if whoever you are refeerring to were to contact our Firm, we could possible be of some assistance on affordable health care.
So SquarePeg, you are still awake! What would be the contact information to contact “our Firm”?
I’m sure you were being sincere with your magnanimous offer.
I must have missed your response. Sorry.
Regular, you described either a nerd or the uni-bomber.
Which is it?
And will NONE of “Regulars” allies second him?
Well I guess if they cannot or will not be there to meet Steven and I, they will be free to post on the blog during the meetup?
My bet is “Regular” does not show up. But I will be glad to see Steven again.
And this story will evolve.
Good night.
The needy individual wil know
So who’s showing at the meet-up.
Noon? Monday? The Watermark Cafe?
Look for the table of ugly people?
Should there be a password?
BlueJay, I will expect your accusations to continue-I will be absent from the blog this weekend…a convenient point for you to use
Naw American Way, Theodore Kascynski looks more friendly than me. :D
I imagine this to be JR at the meeting-
http://www.offbeatearth.com/please-wait-to-be-seated/
I don’t need a second J R. I can handle the situation of a cordial meeting. :)
If my car battery doesn’t die, putting it on the charger this weekend, something is going haywire with it.
If I’m late due to car trouble, I’ll call the cafe and have my sister drive me there.
Wouldn’t miss it, you might actually find me human.
Big and ugly, but human. :)
Good night/morning to all-
SquarePeg
Posted April 18, 2008 at 10:20 pm | Permalink
KsGrm, I am sure if whoever you are refeerring to were to contact our Firm, we could possible be of some assistance on affordable health care.”
I notice you are still posting Chas. Or I mean ::.
It’s really simple SquarePet. Just provide a website, an email address, or a link to whomever we contact for the help you so generously offered.
(I mean if you say you are who you say you are.)
Thanks!
I believe that Regular!!
AmWay, you just lectured Blue Jay about nic accusations… until you can get it through your thick useless appendage you call your head, that I am NOT Chas, I will not respond to your posts, no matter how civil they might be! Got tht, DumbA$$?? You people are still nothing but good for nothing, worthless Trolls!! Totally worthless!
Well good morning Square Peg!
I see you are still up. I’m guessing you missed my earlier post and surely you missed ksgrm’s request for your help too.
As the near CEO of a major corporation, I’m sure you just missed the response to your offer for help.
As a leader, and by inference, a major player in the corporation, it shouldn’t be too much trouble for you to provide a POC for the help you EXTENDED
to offer?
Thanks for clearing this up SquarePeg.
“no matter how civil they might be! Got tht, DumbA$$”
I’m shocked. I’m just, just dumbfounded by this response from a major player, almost CEO of a major corporation in the Wichita area!@#???
Please tell me someone is nic-switching and posting for you..?
I’m sure the REAL SquarePeg, would never post such a derogatory profanity. Not the CEO of a major corporation! Never!
Especially, since, you posted such a heart-warming offer from YOUR corporation to provide assistant….
I wouldn’t want ANYone to think less of you, the major player in a major corporation than your own word provided. Surely you were sincere when you made the post?????
“It’s really simple SquarePet. Just provide a website, an email address, or a link to whomever we contact for the help you so generously offered.
(I mean if you say you are who you say you are.)
Thanks!” [AmWay]
I already answered this once. The needy individual will know what to do. YOU have no need to know, so stop begging!
SquarePeg: I cleared up the YOU ARE CHAS information in a much earlier post.
So can you please provide the POC information for the needy for assistance which your words professed?
Thanks,
Respectfully submitted
American Way
Isn’t it interesting that the trolls never figure you that, according to the story, the troll got out sparteted by goats?
And if you dont back off, the offer will be removed. Then the needy individual will have just cause to be very angry with YOU, and you alone!! Especially since you have been told to knock it off.
Oh, yea, who the hell cares if I make derogatory comments to you?? You re just pond scum! And not even very good pond scum at that!
Just a worthless trouble making Troll!!
“KsGrm, I am sure if whoever you are refeerring to were to contact our Firm, we could possible be of some assistance on affordable health care.”
How will they know SquarePeg?
Well SquarePeg, I will have to conclude that you were less than sincere in your original post. That is really sad.
A real CEO would be proud of his/her position and know their authority and not be playing games after stating they could provide assistance.
I did find it curious that the near CEO of a major corporation in the local area would post the things I have in my post:
American_Way
Posted April 18, 2008 at 10:08 pm |
I thought maybe you would clarify that for me by at the very least providing the name of the major corporation. What’s to hide?
Because of your interruptions today, I did think it was prudent to forward my concerns on to the editor of the Eagle and this blog.
I’m sure as a prominent local leader, they know who you are, your corporation, and can clarify my concerns thereonto pertaining.
Thanks again!
I would suggest that anyone so inclined should descend up the Walgreen’s for lunch. It could prove to be iluminating.
I’m 1000 miles away now, but I attended 2 meetups, one at OJ Watson Park, the other at Hank’s place of residence (this was prior to Nathan’s going off to Iraq). Talking to human beings in person can do wonders for one’s perspective.
As for the accusations of nic-switching–on “all” sides–Jesus-friggin’-Christ, get a life, people.
American_Way
Posted April 19, 2008 at 12:22 am | Permalink
SquarePeg
Posted April 18, 2008 at 10:20 pm | Permalink
KsGrm, I am sure if whoever you are refeerring to were to contact our Firm, we could possible be of some assistance on affordable health care.”
I notice you are still posting Chas. Or I mean ::.
It’s really simple SquarePet. Just provide a website, an email address, or a link to whomever we contact for the help you so generously offered.
(I mean if you say you are who you say you are.)
Thanks
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As of 12:22 you had cleared up nothing… idiot!
AmWay, I hope you did send in my posts to the Editors, so they can look at the ENTIRE post, and see the entire context. YOU would be the likely person to be warned. And tht would be most interesting to see the look on your face when you get a warning email from the WE Blog!! That would be a site to see!!
As for my, and my Firm, they are none of your business. The last I looked, YOU nor KsGrm, nor any other poster are empowered to act as agents for the needy individual.
Therefore, it will be dealt wih MY way, and not YOUR way. Why do you think they named me CEO? It sure wasnt for my good looks! LOL
“And if you dont back off, the offer will be removed. Then the needy individual will have just cause to be very angry with YOU”
Now SquarePeg, this is a very puerile posting by a major player as CEO of a large corporation in our area. At this point, the posts this evening reveal you to be less than straight-forward in your writings.
By the very same standard which liberals and conservatives on this blog hold – I think you should be henceforth persona non grata by ANY poster on the WEBLOG.
Your derogatory comments, name-calling, and flaming are less than indicative of the high standards held by the body of posters of the WEBLOG. Your integrity in what you have posted
is questionable at best and remains unresolved.
Good night to you sir.
AmWay, you have been persona non grata for a Long time here. Guess you havent figured that out yet! LOL!!
I dont know how to tell you this, but there is a difference between name calling, and just plain facts. I deal in facts.
“they will be free to post on the blog during the meetup?”
We are free to post any time. If you REALLY have a problem with your so-called “NIC SWITCHING” Bluejay, a quick email to the editor by ALL posters will resolve it.
You might think about trying the adult approach Hank Price took by meeting with the editors personally. He also invited private email to his own address to get a consensus from other posters.
Of course, that would be the correct way to resolve a problem if there is one. Otherwise, you are wasting space and will not get my goat on this issue any longer.
Unresolved?? I have posted now the third time, the needy person will know what to do. Now, if that doesnt tell you the matter is already being dealt with, then you really are more of a dumbA$$ than I already thought you were! Just no reading comprehension at all, eh AmWay??
This is now the third time I have posted this same information. I defy you to tell me, or anybody else, that I have not answered your question. IF you try that, you shall be proven to be the liar that you already are!
“I deal in facts.”
Each line is from SEPARATE posts by the NIC
SquarePeg:
… if you like sex with young girls so much, that compound in TX must sound like heaven on earth to you!!
You must need your vision checked, unless you are normally this stupid.
THEME SONG FOR MAX’S DAILY RANT
Beber must you be a total pervert all the time?
Either you must be dense, or your hormones need adjusted
Hormone problem, Max? Or is it a mental problem?
Max is a racist/sexist SOB.
OR is Amway just another sexist right wing nut who cant handle a woman being President??
suspect Hud suffers from Anal Retinitis
And I also suspect Hud cannot Read
Anal Retinitis means your Anal nerve is connected to your Retinal nerve, and it gives you a Sh**ty outlook on life
the rest of the geek brigade seem to have this rather stupid, idiotic
your brain, if you have one
Ooops, that was a dumb question.
Now if you geek brigade people can just get that through your small minds
Did somebody tell you that you own this Blog or did you just decide it for yourself?
do hope you imbeciles have fun!! Good job on killing a Thread!! A$$Holes
you are a sorry excuse for a human being
Hell, Amway, Hank just met with the Editors to try some good old qss kissin, and try to cover up for some of Nathan’s BS on the Blog. It was a pretty wimpy way out of what wasnt even a major problem.
” no reading comprehension at all, eh ”
A Chas favorite……
I didn’t know they could stack shit that high.
Whew!
You already posted that once. And I am supposed to be fearful? When you cut and paste partial quotes? You afraid to post the entire quote? Or did you just learn that from Faux Noise?
WOW, what a mess!!! Look at this huge pile of garbage!!
Well, Good night; Good luck;
God bless; whatever you conceive God to be!
Blessings ALL!!
Might see you all this weekend!!
Wow!! Look at this mess!!! What a huge pile of Garbage!!
Well, Good night; Good luck;
God bless; Whatever you conceive God to be!!
Blessings ALL!!
Might see you all this weekend!!
Kind of weird driving by West High school and seeing a fence-in playground for tots and babies.
I wonder what ever happen to the days of innocence?
Nice to see that registration has “fixed” the blog.
Just to be clear: On Monday, I will pay for the lunches of J R, James, and myself. Anyone else (with the exception of Rage – who would be coming from AZ) is on their own.
StevenEDavis
Posted April 18, 2008 at 11:31 pm | Permalink
Excellent fellows, let’s do it. Reg, I go to the barber shop there at the same mall where the WaterMark store is. The lady who cuts my hair is from Mexico and she is such an perfectionist, she can almost make me look good (not really, though).
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Wow. What a small world. Her name is (….ah, probably not such a good idea to mention her name on second thought), and she always cut my hair, too. It’s the Village Barbershop; I went there because it reminded me so much of McPherson’s Headquarters barbershop. Same lame golf stuff stuck on the wall, same earnest and friendly service, same kind of idle male BS — with the occasional cranky old guy thrown in for good measure — that I so love about barbershops. What a sweetheart she is.
Well, I’d join you if I could. I always bought as many books as I possibly could at Watermark, I really like those people. Do me a favor, will you, and get Regular’s autograph for me? Not often you get to eat with a genuine former HAZMAT inspector, especially one who still adheres to the HAZMAT inspector’s world famous hippocratic oath when it comes to educating those with science PhD’s on scientific topics. Youse lucky b*st*rds youse. :D
I always left work early on a Friday afternoon to get my hair cut there when I was in Wichita. I wonder if we ever crossed paths and never knew it?
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