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		<title>By: Rental News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Comment on Open thread 4/13 by national car rental emerald club</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rental News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Comment on Open thread 4/13 by national car rental emerald club</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 13:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: national car rental emerald club</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-345750</link>
		<dc:creator>national car rental emerald club</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 12:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;national car rental emerald club...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: WSClark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330852</link>
		<dc:creator>WSClark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Something killed off that memory eh?&quot;

Yeah, dumbass, the pain of being taken from my grandparents by my birth mother and dumped at an orphanage in Detroit.

You are truly a son of a bitch, McCluer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Something killed off that memory eh?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, dumbass, the pain of being taken from my grandparents by my birth mother and dumped at an orphanage in Detroit.</p>
<p>You are truly a son of a bitch, McCluer.</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330795</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. In fact, as I recall, his statement was something like &quot;I guess I&#039;ll have to go for the full name.&quot; Which pretty much confirms it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. In fact, as I recall, his statement was something like &#8220;I guess I&#8217;ll have to go for the full name.&#8221; Which pretty much confirms it!</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330794</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Steven I’ve taken a break from the blog for a few days, can you tell me how you know this is the same Max? &lt;/i&gt;

Because 

(1) He was griping about not being able to keep his previous nic. I assumed at the time it was him, and he didn&#039;t deny it.

(2) There was a previous Max Grobnik on WEBlog.

(3) He rants just like Max, and on the same subjects.


Occam&#039;s razor, Pmom. Now, if he came out and said &quot;No, I&#039;m not that Max!&quot; I would (in this instance, reluctantly) give him the benefit of the doubt. I &lt;i&gt; do &lt;/i&gt; think there&#039;s been far too much second-guessing going on. Since registration has forced some name changes, I may &quot;wink&quot; at someone I recognize--but I&#039;ll leave accusations out of it, thank you!

As for the Iowa thing, it&#039;s possible he posts there too and lives in, say, Colorado or something. Who cares?

P.S. During a period of time when Capn America was changing nics every few days (he wasn&#039;t trolling--it&#039;s a long story), I made sport of seeing how quickly I could spot him. 

It was easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Steven I’ve taken a break from the blog for a few days, can you tell me how you know this is the same Max? </i></p>
<p>Because </p>
<p>(1) He was griping about not being able to keep his previous nic. I assumed at the time it was him, and he didn&#8217;t deny it.</p>
<p>(2) There was a previous Max Grobnik on WEBlog.</p>
<p>(3) He rants just like Max, and on the same subjects.</p>
<p>Occam&#8217;s razor, Pmom. Now, if he came out and said &#8220;No, I&#8217;m not that Max!&#8221; I would (in this instance, reluctantly) give him the benefit of the doubt. I <i> do </i> think there&#8217;s been far too much second-guessing going on. Since registration has forced some name changes, I may &#8220;wink&#8221; at someone I recognize&#8211;but I&#8217;ll leave accusations out of it, thank you!</p>
<p>As for the Iowa thing, it&#8217;s possible he posts there too and lives in, say, Colorado or something. Who cares?</p>
<p>P.S. During a period of time when Capn America was changing nics every few days (he wasn&#8217;t trolling&#8211;it&#8217;s a long story), I made sport of seeing how quickly I could spot him. </p>
<p>It was easy.</p>
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		<title>By: beber</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330658</link>
		<dc:creator>beber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Gawd. Haw haw haw. I just looked up Door King on google, and there actually is a firm called Door King. I made it up years ago to respond to all those computer surveys. I was the CEO, with an income of $1,000,000, and over 400 employes. You wouldn&#039;t believe what started coming to my mail box in nowhere kansas, population 150, addressed to &quot;Door King.&quot; I even got a free big box of chocolates.

Just a friendly warning to you people who like unique nics. You leave tracks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Gawd. Haw haw haw. I just looked up Door King on google, and there actually is a firm called Door King. I made it up years ago to respond to all those computer surveys. I was the CEO, with an income of $1,000,000, and over 400 employes. You wouldn&#8217;t believe what started coming to my mail box in nowhere kansas, population 150, addressed to &#8220;Door King.&#8221; I even got a free big box of chocolates.</p>
<p>Just a friendly warning to you people who like unique nics. You leave tracks.</p>
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		<title>By: beber</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330657</link>
		<dc:creator>beber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you plug &quot;max grobnik&quot; into the google search engine you&#039;ll find some interesting links. The Max posting on Topix is probably the same Max who posts here, or his twin brother. Don&#039;t worry about invading his privacy. He lives for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you plug &#8220;max grobnik&#8221; into the google search engine you&#8217;ll find some interesting links. The Max posting on Topix is probably the same Max who posts here, or his twin brother. Don&#8217;t worry about invading his privacy. He lives for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkeyhawk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330652</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkeyhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now for something completely different --

I came across this website, from Utah&#039;s &quot;Deseret News&quot; about the Fundamentalist Latter Day States compound in Texas that was raided last week.

http://tinyurl.com/3o5ljo

The link is to the comments section and it&#039;s amazing reading.  There&#039;s no way of telling, of course, if the posters are who they say they are, but a whole lot of orthodox Mormons seeem to be avid supporters of the Texas cult that practices poygamy, child rape, forced marriage, etc.  

It&#039;s more interesting reading than wondering if the poster previously known as &quot;Max&quot; is &lt;i&gt;the&lt;/i&gt; &quot;Max.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now for something completely different &#8211;</p>
<p>I came across this website, from Utah&#8217;s &#8220;Deseret News&#8221; about the Fundamentalist Latter Day States compound in Texas that was raided last week.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/3o5ljo" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/3o5ljo</a></p>
<p>The link is to the comments section and it&#8217;s amazing reading.  There&#8217;s no way of telling, of course, if the posters are who they say they are, but a whole lot of orthodox Mormons seeem to be avid supporters of the Texas cult that practices poygamy, child rape, forced marriage, etc.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s more interesting reading than wondering if the poster previously known as &#8220;Max&#8221; is <i>the</i> &#8220;Max.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Political_mama</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330646</link>
		<dc:creator>Political_mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven I&#039;ve taken a break from the blog for a few days, can you tell me how you know this is the same Max?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven I&#8217;ve taken a break from the blog for a few days, can you tell me how you know this is the same Max?</p>
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		<title>By: StevenEDavis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330645</link>
		<dc:creator>StevenEDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regular, 
I am fairly sure that no one really gives a fat shit about you or anything you do.  But when you make a point of saying things that are not true, people tend to notice.  Your lies are too numerous to count.  

Max, has specifically said he was not from Iowa.  That looks to be untrue.

Don&#039;t want your lies exposed, don&#039;t tell them.  Simple.  So simple, you might even be able to understand that.

Cons:  Lie when the truth would be easier...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regular,<br />
I am fairly sure that no one really gives a fat shit about you or anything you do.  But when you make a point of saying things that are not true, people tend to notice.  Your lies are too numerous to count.  </p>
<p>Max, has specifically said he was not from Iowa.  That looks to be untrue.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t want your lies exposed, don&#8217;t tell them.  Simple.  So simple, you might even be able to understand that.</p>
<p>Cons:  Lie when the truth would be easier&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Regular</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330641</link>
		<dc:creator>Regular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What difference does it make where Max Grobnik is from?

I mean you Libs certainly have a nose problem and sticking it in to where people live and where they are.

I could live the rest of my life not knowing who Steven E. Davis is, where he lives or what he does.  In fact, I could care less.

It&#039;s a blog, nothing more, nothing less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What difference does it make where Max Grobnik is from?</p>
<p>I mean you Libs certainly have a nose problem and sticking it in to where people live and where they are.</p>
<p>I could live the rest of my life not knowing who Steven E. Davis is, where he lives or what he does.  In fact, I could care less.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a blog, nothing more, nothing less.</p>
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		<title>By: StevenEDavis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330640</link>
		<dc:creator>StevenEDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Max used to say that he wasn&#039;t from Iowa.

Max Grobnik
Des Moines, IA  Reply » 
&#124;Report Abuse &#124;Judge it! &#124;#9 Apr 1, 2007 
The Democrats have held Congress now for 3 months. How much time are they going to waste on useless hearings like this one about firing 8 attorneys?(Is firing attorneys a bad thing? Or just a good start!) We have a few other priorities right now don&#039;t we?  

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/des-moines-ia/TCU1E9ADF2TTEP46M

Somehow it is reassuring to me that he doesn&#039;t just stink up this venue.  But does this mean that, given his denials about Iowa, that he is a bald faced liar?  Perish the thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Max used to say that he wasn&#8217;t from Iowa.</p>
<p>Max Grobnik<br />
Des Moines, IA  Reply »<br />
|Report Abuse |Judge it! |#9 Apr 1, 2007<br />
The Democrats have held Congress now for 3 months. How much time are they going to waste on useless hearings like this one about firing 8 attorneys?(Is firing attorneys a bad thing? Or just a good start!) We have a few other priorities right now don&#8217;t we?  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.topix.com/forum/city/des-moines-ia/TCU1E9ADF2TTEP46M" rel="nofollow">http://www.topix.com/forum/city/des-moines-ia/TCU1E9ADF2TTEP46M</a></p>
<p>Somehow it is reassuring to me that he doesn&#8217;t just stink up this venue.  But does this mean that, given his denials about Iowa, that he is a bald faced liar?  Perish the thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330627</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 04:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,  my  calendar says  this will be a long week!!

Good night;  Good luck;  and God bless;
Whatever you  conceive God to be!!

Blessings  ALL!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,  my  calendar says  this will be a long week!!</p>
<p>Good night;  Good luck;  and God bless;<br />
Whatever you  conceive God to be!!</p>
<p>Blessings  ALL!!</p>
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		<title>By: Regular</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330625</link>
		<dc:creator>Regular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 04:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chas,

Ask Ben about his fights with the City and County on drainage and backfill areas.  No one listens until a disaster happens.

The fees that Ben got I&#039;m sure was nice, but it sure feels like one is wasting their time and breath talking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chas,</p>
<p>Ask Ben about his fights with the City and County on drainage and backfill areas.  No one listens until a disaster happens.</p>
<p>The fees that Ben got I&#8217;m sure was nice, but it sure feels like one is wasting their time and breath talking.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330624</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 04:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do hope Wichita avoids  any  storm damages  this  storm season...  It would be a major  setback for the whole  City and County(and even the State)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do hope Wichita avoids  any  storm damages  this  storm season&#8230;  It would be a major  setback for the whole  City and County(and even the State)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Regular</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330623</link>
		<dc:creator>Regular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Chas, I went there because I was trained in Safety and Environmental Assessment.  I was the bearer of bad news to the prospective builders. 

My services weren&#039;t required after that message was delivered. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Chas, I went there because I was trained in Safety and Environmental Assessment.  I was the bearer of bad news to the prospective builders. </p>
<p>My services weren&#8217;t required after that message was delivered. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330622</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We  sent  medical teams;  search/rescue teams &amp; dogs;  Food convoys(Loaded Semi&#039;s)   All kinds of  things...   only  lately have  we  been  rebuilding structures...  But its  all part of  the  rebuild  process...  You would  probably  have a difficult time  on  putting  up  structures...  but  I am sure  they need  paper shufflers,  and housing  coordinators,  and  food  servers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We  sent  medical teams;  search/rescue teams &amp; dogs;  Food convoys(Loaded Semi&#8217;s)   All kinds of  things&#8230;   only  lately have  we  been  rebuilding structures&#8230;  But its  all part of  the  rebuild  process&#8230;  You would  probably  have a difficult time  on  putting  up  structures&#8230;  but  I am sure  they need  paper shufflers,  and housing  coordinators,  and  food  servers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330621</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James knew how to &quot;earn his keep&quot; at four?

     Huh.

      I guess he forgot since then. 

       Now that he is a ward of the State AND making money on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James knew how to &#8220;earn his keep&#8221; at four?</p>
<p>     Huh.</p>
<p>      I guess he forgot since then. </p>
<p>       Now that he is a ward of the State AND making money on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Regular</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330620</link>
		<dc:creator>Regular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, I had no memory of it until he told me about it forty years later.
-----------------------------
Something killed off that memory eh?


I remember gathering eggs and feeding chickens at the age of four.  Cracked a few eggs, but it was a way to learn and earn my keep. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, I had no memory of it until he told me about it forty years later.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Something killed off that memory eh?</p>
<p>I remember gathering eggs and feeding chickens at the age of four.  Cracked a few eggs, but it was a way to learn and earn my keep. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Regular</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330618</link>
		<dc:creator>Regular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chas,

Hard to build on semi-flooded lands contaminated with fuel oils, rotting sewage and all sorts of hazardous materials that washed up and took up residence.

It wasn&#039;t going to happen until they cleared the land and rebuilt top soil layers, dredged the drainage and generally met the new hurricane codes being invoked by insurance companies and the State.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chas,</p>
<p>Hard to build on semi-flooded lands contaminated with fuel oils, rotting sewage and all sorts of hazardous materials that washed up and took up residence.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t going to happen until they cleared the land and rebuilt top soil layers, dredged the drainage and generally met the new hurricane codes being invoked by insurance companies and the State.</p>
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		<title>By: WSClark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330617</link>
		<dc:creator>WSClark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hate talking to moaners and groaners who wouldn’t know which end of the mule gets the hay.&quot;

Actually, Grandpa tilled his fields with mule drawn plows - sometimes I would &quot;help&quot; him feed the mules.

Of course, I had no memory of it until he told me about it forty years later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hate talking to moaners and groaners who wouldn’t know which end of the mule gets the hay.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, Grandpa tilled his fields with mule drawn plows &#8211; sometimes I would &#8220;help&#8221; him feed the mules.</p>
<p>Of course, I had no memory of it until he told me about it forty years later.</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330616</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,  we  been  sending  crews  since  right  after the  hurricane  hit....  no problems  with  permits,  etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,  we  been  sending  crews  since  right  after the  hurricane  hit&#8230;.  no problems  with  permits,  etc.</p>
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		<title>By: annie_moose</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330615</link>
		<dc:creator>annie_moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if anyone put this up, I&#039;m sure these rounds are making their way into the states probably with afgan opium.

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htweap/articles/20060829.aspx

Iran&#039;s Cop Killer Bullets
August 29, 2006: Iran recently announced that it has begun manufacturing, and issuing armor piercing bullets for the AK-47 type assault rifles used by their infantry. Iran claimed that these new bullets could penetrate protective vests. Actually, they can, and can probably penetrate over 10mm of armor. The Iranians claimed that these bullets can penetrate 20mm of armor, which is only true if you are using low quality armor. There&#039;s a lot of that in the region. But the ceramic plates used in American protective vests can stop at least one of these armor piercing bullets. These more expensive bullets have to be fired at close range (under a hundred meters) and in large quantity to guarantee they will overwhelm the body armor typically worn by American troops. However, if any American troops do get hit by this new Iranian ammunition, it will cause a stink that may prove expensive to the Iranians. The new Iranian bullets will, however, penetrate most protective vests worn by police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if anyone put this up, I&#8217;m sure these rounds are making their way into the states probably with afgan opium.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htweap/articles/20060829.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htweap/articles/20060829.aspx</a></p>
<p>Iran&#8217;s Cop Killer Bullets<br />
August 29, 2006: Iran recently announced that it has begun manufacturing, and issuing armor piercing bullets for the AK-47 type assault rifles used by their infantry. Iran claimed that these new bullets could penetrate protective vests. Actually, they can, and can probably penetrate over 10mm of armor. The Iranians claimed that these bullets can penetrate 20mm of armor, which is only true if you are using low quality armor. There&#8217;s a lot of that in the region. But the ceramic plates used in American protective vests can stop at least one of these armor piercing bullets. These more expensive bullets have to be fired at close range (under a hundred meters) and in large quantity to guarantee they will overwhelm the body armor typically worn by American troops. However, if any American troops do get hit by this new Iranian ammunition, it will cause a stink that may prove expensive to the Iranians. The new Iranian bullets will, however, penetrate most protective vests worn by police.</p>
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		<title>By: Regular</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330614</link>
		<dc:creator>Regular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just said Chas, the permits weren&#039;t clearing the Fed, State and County Environmental and Safety ordinances back then.  Probably better now though.

My sister went on a few trips to New Orleans to rebuild a Church - she ended up catching up on their bookwork, since their secretary had to move away.  But all good work is good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just said Chas, the permits weren&#8217;t clearing the Fed, State and County Environmental and Safety ordinances back then.  Probably better now though.</p>
<p>My sister went on a few trips to New Orleans to rebuild a Church &#8211; she ended up catching up on their bookwork, since their secretary had to move away.  But all good work is good.</p>
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		<title>By: WSClark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/open-thread-413/#comment-330613</link>
		<dc:creator>WSClark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You always want to get the edge by using what a person tells you (even in casual conversation) against them.&quot;

Getting awful touchy there, McCluer. 

Does this mean that you are gonna swear off the personal attacks?

Naw - that just wouldn&#039;t be in you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You always want to get the edge by using what a person tells you (even in casual conversation) against them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Getting awful touchy there, McCluer. </p>
<p>Does this mean that you are gonna swear off the personal attacks?</p>
<p>Naw &#8211; that just wouldn&#8217;t be in you.</p>
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