McCain now even with Obama, Clinton

mccainJohn McCain has closed the gap with Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, benefiting from current division among Democrats. Associated Press reported: “An AP-Ipsos poll taken in late February had Obama leading McCain 51-41 percent. The current survey, conducted April 7-9, had them at 45 percent each. McCain leads Obama among men, whites, Southerners, married women and independents.

“Clinton led McCain, 48-43 percent, in February. The latest survey showed the New York senator with 48 percent support to McCain’s 45 percent. Factoring in the poll’s margin of error of 3.1 percentage points, Clinton and McCain are statistically tied.”

50 Comments

  1. jwink
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 6:14 am | Permalink

    This whole procedure now shows why Kansas should have tried to have their primary/caucuses at the END rather than at the BEGINNING of the presidential primary season. We would have had the benefit of the previous voting. Maybe Huckabee’s name would not have entered into the voting.

  2. writerdog
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 6:24 am | Permalink

    Whistle pass the grave yard folks

  3. writerdog
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 6:31 am | Permalink

    Jwink his name would have just been written in, I was there and the RR was out in force.
    “on ward Christian soldiers.. going off to war… .Common sense and reason… now we do implore…
    Lets not let this country… get in the way of the Lord!… “

    Boy did I get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning!

  4. Komrade
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 7:58 am | Permalink

    The next Pres will be McCain because the democrats played their cards wrong again. Hillary might have beaten him but Obama never will.

  5. BlueJay
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 8:35 am | Permalink

    Unlike you cons…

    (and proudly so, by the way)

    Democrats are not stuck with one candidate.

    OUR race makes news and is news. The only time old John makes news is when he says/does something stupid.

    Though I give you, that’s an almost daily occurence!

  6. jwink
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 8:56 am | Permalink

    WDog: I also attended the Republican caucus at Century II a couple months ago. In addition to that long line almost to Kellogg, I remember the large number of Huckabee political signs everywhere that morning. It did look like a Huckabee family cemetery plot. But as it turned out, that was Huckabee’s finest moment in the primaries.

    I agree Huckabee appeared to be a highly ethical person and a better than average speaker with some inspirational stories.

    But now, as a moderate Republican, I think the elephant party better stop carping and complaining and gather around their candidate, John McCain, for better or worse.

  7. Phantom
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    If the dems. schism and let Mcfool win a bush third term, I think I will diavow of politics.

  8. Regular
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    polls…(yawn)

  9. Political_mama
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 9:40 am | Permalink

    That’ll change once the dems make a choice.

    We’ll never elect someoen who calls his wife a c*nt, and if we do, I’ll start hating America. I don’t like America much right now but at least I have great hope that people have woke up and are willing to take back this country from those who harm it.

  10. Political_mama
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    If McCain wins, I’m going to start advocating the splitting up of the USA.

    Cons on one side, Libs on the other.

  11. lindainks55
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    Did you hear about the poll that showed 3 out of 4 Americans were responsible for 75% of (fill in the blank)?

    It is totally unknown whether 2 out of 4 Americans are responsible for 50% of (fill in the blank). That poll hasn’t been conducted. I think the pollsters spent all their money on the first poll.

  12. Franklin
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    Blue Jay

    Obama just called PA voters a bunch of red-neck hicks, in so many words.
    Hillary can’t get off the sniper fire stuff.

    Who is saying stupid things?

  13. Nathaniel
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    Linda,

    Ah yes, that wonderful liberal double standard. When the polls are not going your way, then all of a sudden they are “just” polls.

    Keep on dragging this out Hilary and lets see how far you can drag your party down!

    Get ready liberals, it is looking like McCain in 2008!

  14. Hud
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    “Get ready liberals, it is looking like McCain in 2008!”

    Easy Nathan, do not ruin a good thing. The two best campaigners the Republicans have are Hillary and Barack.

  15. Posted April 12, 2008 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    So this just means half the people aren’t familiar with McCain’s record. Reporters tried to find any soldier serving in Iraq who were planning on voting for McCain. They couldn’t find any. It’s just as well, their votes don’t get counted anyway.

  16. Posted April 12, 2008 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    “Obama just called PA voters a bunch of red-neck hicks, in so many words.”

    No, he didn’t - he said some voters are bitter that the jobs have left and the economy has gone south and no one seems to care.

    How is that statement anything but true?

  17. lindainks55
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    In so many ways it would be well deserved that McCain inherit the problems and attempt the solutions.

  18. outlander
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    About small town Pennsylvanians

    “And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” - Obama

    ————

    Oh look. Obama is trying to broaden his appeal.

    In other words, you idiots aren’t thinking, you’re just frustrated or you wouldn’t be in favor of guns or religion or against illegal immigration. You morons! Chuckle…

  19. Posted April 12, 2008 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    You are correct on that point, Linda Inks, of course it would not get done and would just be left for another president.

    But there would be a certain amount of poetic justice to see McCain inherit this cluster-fork from his man Bush and watch him try to fix it.

    Reality TV gone global.

  20. lindainks55
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    Obama Concedes Remarks Were Ill Chosen

    http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5izQosMtCfjNjE1uAP6fQV2BZ_qWwD900E0OO1

    A person capable of saying he is wrong. A person big enough to admit mistakes. A person.

  21. BlueJay
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    No matter WHO the Democratic candidate is,

    if McCain or ANY Republican would win after what we have been through?

    America may be well past saving.

  22. Posted April 12, 2008 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    I fear for my country, J R, if we are “treated” to four more years of Bush policies under McCain. We are trouble, serious trouble, economically, militarily, in foreign policy, our image around the world, our moral standing, social issues, etc.

    And all some can talk about is abortion and guns.

  23. Regular
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    moral standing

    ROFL!

    Liberal moral standing - that’s an oxymoron if I ever saw one.

  24. Posted April 12, 2008 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Well, McCluer, tell us ALL about the conservative moral standing…..

    Please remember to include Cunningham, Bey, Gingrich, Limbaugh, Haggard, Foley, Santorum, Robertson, etc, in your discussion.

    Thank you.

  25. Posted April 12, 2008 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Can’t forget DeLay either.

  26. BlueJay
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    I’d almost feel sorry for the cons.

    If I didn’t hate them so much.

    We have TWO candidates with very committed campaigns.

    The cons are stuck with a guy almost none of them wanted. THEIR best hope is McCain picks a running mate they like and then takes the dirt nap.

    Sucks to be them.

  27. Posted April 12, 2008 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    Obama’s going to beat McCain like a rug on top of a drum.

    No way do the 70 percent of American people who hate Bush’s guts go with McSame.

    Trouble is, Obama will have to win by such a large margin that he can also beat the Republican vote-switching machines.

    As we saw in Ohio last time, that’s not easy to do . . .

  28. Regular
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    CapnAmerica
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    Obama’s going to beat McCain like a rug on top of a drum
    ——————————-

    When Obama’s Liberal voting record comes out, (the most Liberal Voting record in the Senate), he will drop like a lead balloon.

  29. Posted April 12, 2008 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    “When Obama’s Liberal voting record comes out.”

    Damn, it is ALREADY out - just take a freakin’ minute and look it up.

    Jeez……………………….

  30. Franklin
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    Obama
    Buddies with terrorists from the Weather Underground.

    Obama, member of a Church that honors terrorist loving Farrakhan.

    Obama, member of a Church that honors Hamas.

    Obama is on the looney left.

    Obama will save the Republican Party.

    The Dems actually found someone even WORSE than Hillary!

  31. Franklin
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    Obama and the Weather Underground:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=bVxsM4_LRR4

  32. Franklin
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    Obama
    Friends will all of the Chicago nuts:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8630.html

  33. KansasNative
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Franklin? Nathaniel?

    Hmmmmm

  34. Posted April 12, 2008 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    “Obama and the Weather Underground”

    Why waste out time, “Franklin?” You should have told us up front that it was a Fox Noise - Sean Hannity video.

    Yeah, good old Sean would NEVER lie……..

    Except when he does.

  35. Mary_Caruso
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    When Obama wins the nomination, he’ll stay ahead of McCain in the polls….no matter how desperately the cons attempt to “swiftboat” him.
    Obama is intelligent, refreshing, and has a common sense far superior to that of the Bush administration.

  36. BlueJay
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    A little too much presumption going on here today.

    Obama is not yet the nominee. This is probably a good thing as the media almost too late begin to seriously look into Senator Obama.

  37. Franklin
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    Obama is a radical.

    No matter what, Obama is a great thing for the Republican Party.

    Obama is the most liberal Senator in Washington.

    Obama is very friendly towards terrorists and other radicals.

    “People are Policy” as it has been said.

    Everyone around Obama is a loon.

  38. BlueJay
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    And McCain is the survivor of some of the most brutal things human beings can do to each other.

    That has to have left scars that we cannot see.

    Maybe even scars McCain himself is unaware of.

    He merits our greatest respect for his service. But he has also earned our tender care.

    It MUST be suggested that he may be mentally unfit for the most important job on the planet.

  39. Posted April 12, 2008 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Franklin–

    How can Obama have the most liberal voting record when Kerry had the most liberal voting record?

    That’s the thing about BS–it’s so hard to keep it consistent.

  40. Monkeyhawk
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    “Franklin” (BTW, welcome to this forum, “Franklin!” Always nice to meet a newcomer.) offers –

    “Obama is the most liberal Senator in Washington.”

    Or, to put it another way, Obama is the most un-Bush politician in the business.

    McBush is four more years of Shrub. And 94 more years of war in Iraq.

  41. Posted April 12, 2008 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    “Franklin” (BTW, welcome to this forum, “Franklin!” Always nice to meet a newcomer.)

    MH, Franklin is not a newcomer–he just couldn’t get the nic he wanted. I’ll leave it to you to figure out his not-so-secret identity. :)

    P.S. As you might have noticed, I haven’t joined in the silly, pointless accusations of multiple nics (with multiple personalities, no less). I just happened to recognize the guy, like, instantly, and he readily acknowledged it.

  42. KansasNative
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    Franklin
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    “Obama is very friendly towards terrorists and other radicals.”

    Kind of like “Red” Bush who whisked the bin Ladens and other Arabs out of the US right after 9/11 so they wouldn’t/couldn’t be questioned.

  43. Monkeyhawk
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    “KansasNative” notes –

    “Kind of like “Red” Bush who whisked the bin Ladens and other Arabs out of the US right after 9/11 so they wouldn’t/couldn’t be questioned.”

    No no no.

    It’s not like that at all.

    It’s more like Shrub holding hands with the Saudi Arabian sheik during their love-fest down at Crawford.

    Okay, they did kiss.

    But no tongue!

  44. Posted April 12, 2008 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

    Hey, check out this combined general election map from April 12!

    http://electoral-vote.com/

    I found the “votemaster”’s choice of colors a real giggle!

  45. outlander
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    “Clinton called Obama’s remarks “elitist,” “demeaning” and “out of touch” Saturday morning, and high-powered supporters followed up by claiming the comments would damage everything from Obama’s credibility to his electability in a general election.”

    The Illinois senator said rural Americans “cling” to issues like religion, guns and anti-immigrant beliefs out of bitterness over lost jobs.”

    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/12/clinton-team-lunges-at-obama-hunts-for-opening-over-small-town-america-remarks/

    —————

    Ya have to love the Obama rabbit. Gets to far ahead and then something else comes out. It’s going to be serious and Clinton is gonna jump all over it. Obama called Pennsyvanian’s belief in God, gun rights, stopping illegal immigration etc.. as reactions to joblessness. In other words, they couldn’t honestly believe the way they do if they had a job. Nice.

    JR, you are right, it is much better that the Dems have two candidates. It has higher entertainment value. The Sunday morning spin should be interesting.

  46. outlander
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    “Trouble is, Obama will have to win by such a large margin that he can also beat the Republican vote-switching machines.

    As we saw in Ohio last time, that’s not easy to do.”

    —————-

    CapnAmerica is starting to think up excuses already. Don’t give up yet Capn. Obama could still pull it out.

  47. BlueJay
    Posted April 12, 2008 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Obama’s remarks ARE….troubling. I’ve had it as bad or worse than anyone and I don’t retreat to the church to tell me why. I also don’t stock up on guns and ammo.

    These remarks are LESS troubling though than Senator McCain and how he toes the “insult American workers” line.

    The whole bit about illegal immigrants do jobs Americans won’t?

    Remember when he insulted all those college kids and Americans in general when he told them he could get them work at 50 bucks an hour picking lettuce if only any of them would do it?

  48. writerdog
    Posted April 13, 2008 at 5:44 am | Permalink

    “Stupid is as stupid does”, but when is stating the truth stupid? Maybe Obama has been hanging around the same small town coffee shops I have been in. Yes, people are bitter and yes in times of bitterness and resentment people do turn to what they know or makes them feel secure. Gun sales go up in times when the world seems to be falling apart, people when they feel lost or forsaken turn to God. If one can not find a job or feels as if all the good jobs have been taken. They conclude that it is someone else’s fault in moments of desperation. I have seen it ever since I became old enough to work and every place I have worked. There is always someone that is blaming the minors or illegal aliens for the problems in this country. Even people of little or no faith will hit their knees when bad things happen. To pretend it is not so or say it is not is being disingenuous.

  49. writerdog
    Posted April 13, 2008 at 5:46 am | Permalink

    minorities instead of minors, sorry

  50. Franklin
    Posted April 13, 2008 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Very good article on why Clinton won’t quit the race:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9564.html

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