Majority think Clinton is dishonest

clintondebatelookingright3.jpgHillary Clinton’s Bosnia story and her all-out effort to catch up to Barack Obama appear to be costing her: A majority of Americans now view her as dishonest. Nearly 6 in 10 people surveyed said that she is not honest and trustworthy, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll. She is still viewed as honest by 63 percent of Democrats, though that is down 18 points from 2006.

50 Comments

  1. bth
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    Tha amazingly STUPID thing about this is that she seems to be fabricating things that are simply silly.

  2. clane
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    I would think that most people already knew that she was not honest.

  3. Posted April 16, 2008 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    Ya think? Could it be the string of lies she has told and been busted on? Just think of all the ones she hasn’t been busted for…. yet.

  4. george
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    She forgets what she said to easily.

  5. StevenEDavis
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    While many here comment on Obama’s foot-in-mouth problem, Hillary seems to be winning that contest and it doesn’t seem to me that she has received the same amount of media scrutiny/reporting that Obama has along those lines.

  6. lindainks55
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    There are those who are sure each of the candidates is getting more or less attention from the press. Then another part of the disagreement is whether the press they do receive is positive or negative.

    With 24 hour news, blogs at a click, access to every newspaper and each story written I’m amazed at the small amount of negative for any of them.

    They’re out and about every day among thousands of people who are armed with cameras and recording devices and yet they all do pretty good.

    There are few opportunities to hear the full text, nothing taken out of context, not the sound bite someone decided should be what we hear or the interpretation of what was said.

    Remember when news was two things? 1) reporting 2) investigative How often do we get either today?

  7. GMC70
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    “A majority of Americans now view her as dishonest.”

    Gosh. Ya think? I wonder why that would be . . . hmm . . . could be all that “experience” she touts but keeps hidden. Perhaps it’s those sniper bullets she had to dodge.

    Or perhaps we recognize it runs in the family.

  8. GMC70
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    Oh - hi, ya’ll.

  9. ghotiphaze
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Or perhaps we recognize it runs in the family

    Nah, just after the last 8 years we come to expect it from anyone even remotely connected to Washington.

  10. GMC70
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    ghotiphaze:

    True enough, but it’s not the last 8 years. It’s the nature of the beast. From the beginning of time, to today, human nature never changes. And never will.

  11. ghotiphaze
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Y’know, during the Kennedy admin I wasn’t near as worried about our country. Of course I was a lot younger. Seems since Johnson, and then followed by Nixon, it became scary or just running place since then.

  12. ghotiphaze
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    Plus you have to admit, the present admin is looking a whole lot like the Nixon admin, only a whole lot more so. Scandal and incompetence from top to bottom.

  13. Jack
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    She learned well from Bill

  14. ghotiphaze
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    and honed her skills by careful observations of George and Dick?

  15. ghotiphaze
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    And Kindaliesalot Rice, Scooter, Ronald Dumbsfelt, Petrolus….

  16. KansasNative
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    Nixon was a saint compared to this Bush bunch.

  17. StevenEDavis
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    I have often thought that Nixon, if he were alive, would have to be grateful to Bush for rehabilitating Nixon’s image.

  18. outlander
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    Well of course she is dishonest. She is a Democrat politician.

    What? You say that Republican politicians are more dishonest? Are not. Are too. Are not.

    Well, there was Clinton. Well, there was Nixon. Blah, blah friggin’ blah blah….

  19. bth
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    Meanwhile - AZ Republicans on McSame:

    “The people who know him like him the least. He is a media darling, so the general population doesn’t know his record - and conservatives do,”

    http://www.kansas.com/wireupdates/story/374167.html

  20. littlejohn
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    A politician dishonest? Naw, say it isn’t so.

  21. littlejohn
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    bth
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 3:18 pm | Permalink
    Meanwhile - AZ Republicans on McSame:

    “The people who know him like him the least. He is a media darling, so the general population doesn’t know his record”

    the article stated it was a small group of Republicans, and he has carried his home state for several election cycles, so perhaps people who do know him, like him. I bet he carries his home state in the general election. Lik….mm, never mind. As for me, I don;t like him. Not a bit.

  22. KansasNative
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    …Of course Nixon was a practicing alcoholic not a dry drunk like Bush.

    I have more sympathy for someone under the influence than for someone who quit drinking but stays in denial of their problem..

  23. darkanonm
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think a politician can be honest and be elected. Most would have to tell us that they will go into office, not do a thing , and grab anything not welded down, then run off and become a lobbyist.

  24. Regular
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    Yep, the Hillster has been known to extrapolate some yarns in her time.

    That, and an exceedingly bad memory when it comes to answering questions regarding her involvement in cases where her co-workers and friends are taking the fall for her.

  25. BlueJay
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    I don’t care.

    At least she isn’t the enemy and she knows who the enemy is.

  26. BlueJay
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 4:42 pm | Permalink

    “it doesn’t seem to me that she has received the same amount of media scrutiny/reporting that Obama has along those lines.”

    Geez have you been living the last 15 years in a mine shaft?

    The right started in on stopping her election 7 years before she entered the race!

    It’s Obama gets the pass. And what I DO see of him and his wife, I like less and less.

  27. Posted April 16, 2008 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    GMC vowed to never post if he had to register.

    That was then . . . this is now.

    *****

    Dear Friends and Fans:

    LIke most of you, I’ve been following the campaign and I have now seen and heard enough to know where I stand. Senator Obama, in my view, is head and shoulders above the rest.

    He has the depth, the reflectiveness, and the resilience to be our next President. He speaks to the America I’ve envisioned in my music for the past 35 years, a generous nation with a citizenry willing to tackle nuanced and complex problems, a country that’s interested in its collective destiny and in the potential of its gathered spirit. A place where “…nobody crowds you, and nobody goes it alone.”

    At the moment, critics have tried to diminish Senator Obama through the exaggeration of certain of his comments and relationships. While these matters are worthy of some discussion, they have been ripped out of the context and fabric of the man’s life and vision, so well described in his excellent book, Dreams of My Father, often in order to distract us from discussing the real issues: war and peace, the fight for economic and racial justice, reaffirming our Constitution, and the protection and enhancement of our environment.

    After the terrible damage done over the past eight years, a great American reclamation project needs to be undertaken. I believe that Senator Obama is the best candidate to lead that project and to lead us into the 21st Century with a renewed sense of moral purpose and of ourselves as Americans.

    Over here on E Street, we’re proud to support Obama for President.

    Bruce Springsteen

  28. outlander
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    Sounds like Springsteen knows A Good Man is Hard to Find and thinks Obama was Born to Run. But clearly the Boss is past his Glory Days and is Looking for a Reason to Believe. He is an idealist and thinks he can find Paradise in the Badlands, but really he is just Dancing in the Dark, with a Jersey Girl.

    You see Bruce, like anyone else Born in the USA can freely state his opinion. But he has to know that h McCain will Walk Like a Man there will be No Surrender because he is Tougher than the Rest. But he may need some Spare Parts eventually.

    Springsteen is going with A Roll of the Dice by supporting Obama. That may work out in Lucky Town, but will work out in the Real World?

  29. ksgrm
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    Outlander if Ksfrmgrl was here - she makes great American pies - she could tell us about driving her Chevy to the levy and the levy was dry.

  30. Mary_Caruso
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    Hillary has always come across as phoney to me…I can’t stand to even watch her talk with that “deer in the headlights” look on her face.
    Just the fact that she didn’t throw Bill’s clothes out on the white house lawn forced me to give up any respect for her long ago.

  31. kansasdem
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    The worst lie we’ve heard was Bush’s 16 words in his State of the Union Address, of all places to lie, about British MI6 telling us about Saddam buying uranium in Niger. THAT was a whopper. Even Scooter’s and Rove’s multiple lies to multiple people, including federal grand juries, are lesser lies than Bush’s. They make Hillary look like a Girl Scout.

  32. StevenEDavis
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    Thanks, Capn, for your views, I am taking a different turn. Unless we Democrats, those of us in this country who are intersted in turning things around (and we can do so), vote for BOTH Hillary and Obama, I am staying home and will not vote.

    I am sending this messages to both campaigns. I have sent both campaigns money.

    It is time to unite this party, we can do it. Night all…

  33. StevenEDavis
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Sorry, this message

  34. StevenEDavis
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 10:21 pm | Permalink

    Mike,

    You don’t have any faith in McCain and to say otherwise, is completely dishonest, and you know it…

  35. MaxGrobnik
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    Wow! Hillary Clinton is a liar?

    I’m shocked!

    Stop the presses! New lead news story!

    Oh my!

  36. Kev
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

    Of course she is dishonest. Her and her husband have lying and scandle down to an art form.

  37. BlueJay
    Posted April 16, 2008 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

    Hi Capn.

    Bruce Springsteen is also very comfortably rich.

    What did Barack give us in the debate tonight?

    Well he AGAIN said that some Republicans have good ideas.

    And he AGAIN reached out to the religious right.

    Senator Clinton spoke of folks that felt ignored. Well that’s where I’m at. And I am not prepared to dis my friends to work with my enemies.

    You are right to call for healing Steven. You’ve no idea how much I hold back here while Obama supporters attack Senator Clinton.

    If they are prepared to toss me and other friends under the bus, why should I care if they end up losing too?

  38. outlander
    Posted April 17, 2008 at 7:00 am | Permalink

    Steven: I have no faith in any politician.

  39. Posted April 17, 2008 at 7:44 am | Permalink

    That’s where we can’t agree, J R.

    I don’t see Obama throwing anyone under the bus.

    When the Hillaryites came out with the Rev. Wright video, carefully excising the sermon for maximum negative effect, Obama could have thrown him under the bus.

    He didn’t. He said he was a friend who had shaped his ideas over many years. He stood by Rev. Wright.

    I don’t see Hillary standing by anybody . . . except for Hillary.

    Bill Clinton was a good president, for a Republican.

    But we can do better. We can do a lot better.

  40. writerdog
    Posted April 17, 2008 at 7:48 am | Permalink

    “You are right to call for healing Steven. You’ve no idea how much I hold back here while Obama supporters attack Senator Clinton.
    If they are prepared to toss me and other friends under the bus, why should I care if they end up losing too?”

    I can relate to what JR said, being a Ron Paul supporter and still thinking he was the best of either party. I have yet to see Any “reaching out” to those of us whom supported him.
    I will admit that perhaps we are not in the same league as the rest of the current crowd of Republicans (“we are the “A“ team” comes to mind, but then why start that fight).

    Anyway, to point to how messed up our thinking has become, when a Politician said something that is true. It is called a “gaffe “ and thought of as a mistake. So what is a Politician to do? WE expect them to lie to us, we want them to lie to us, honesty is a character fault to us. Would Hillary make any better or worst President than Mc Cain?
    In my opinion not really, I see them as the voters are back to the time honored “lesser of two evils”.

    AS for me I got tired of having only two evils to choose from about twenty years ago. I like Obama for some of the reasons I liked Paul. He seems a straight shooter, a thinking person and intelligent in his evaluation of the situation. Where they differ is that Paul see the problem and want to use tried and true solutions. Though it would mean tearing thing up and putting them back together right.

    Obama sees the problems too but want to find a balance that would not tear up the whole thing but will allow for a gradual turn to the correct course. I do not fault Hillary for what I would see as a gaffe, after all
    that is what the voters want her to do. Lie, fight and be partisan… It makes the voters feel better about themselves.

  41. Mary_Caruso
    Posted April 17, 2008 at 8:30 am | Permalink

    You are so right, dog…Obama doesn’t just say what he thinks people want to hear in order to get elected. He always takes the higher ground rather than mud slinging, he’s so common sense and refreshing. His message is about unity, not running others into the ground in order to try to look good in comparison….I really admire him for that.

  42. BlueJay
    Posted April 17, 2008 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    “When the Hillaryites came out with the Rev. Wright video,”

    That is a flat out lie Capn and you know it.

    The pastor Wright story was outed by right wing diggers and brought to the greater media by con ranter Sean Hannity.

    You can also credit Hannity and NOT Senator Clinton with last nights outing of Obama’s “new” known radical affiliation to William Ayers of the Weather Underground.

    Last week, George Stehenopolous was taking NOTES in an interview with Hannity. Hannity ASKED George to put that question to Obama.

    I’ve only been warning you Obamaniacs about it for a month.

    “I don’t see Obama throwing anyone under the bus.”

    Well, nobody that you apparently care about anyway.

    I grow increasingly impatient with the arrogant bleating of Obama supporters.

  43. lindainks55
    Posted April 17, 2008 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    Obama said last night that association with, working with, friendship with, whatever the relationship with another person doesn’t mean he shares all their views or character traits. I am paraphrasing (badly probably) and will try to find his words which to me said it well.

    Aren’t each of us a unique person? Do any of us think we should be inclusive to only those who think exactly like we do? What a dull and probably stagnant world that would be.

  44. lindainks55
    Posted April 17, 2008 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    Here’s what Obama said:

    “So this kind of game,” Obama said last night, “in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, that somehow their ideas could be attributed to me. I think the American people are smarter than that.”

    It is a game, isn’t it? If we give attention to the insignificant while ignoring what really needs attention, aren’t we complicit in the game? I think we are. I’m really sick of politics as usual, of the accusations of character faults, of all things negative about campaigning. The game of politics hasn’t gotten us anywhere we want to be.

  45. lindainks55
    Posted April 17, 2008 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    To the issue of electability and standing up to the Republican attack machine.

    If we only pay attention to the game of politics and all get down and dirty and ugly then I don’t think any candidate who chooses that path should be president. If Clinton’s strong point is being able to withstand the attacks, giving as good as she gets, then she doesn’t have the strong points I want to vote for. And if she has these skills of electability and is only able to use them to get herself elected, what does that say? It really is time for change!

    IF Americans vote in McCain, if Americans want four more years of exactly what they’ve had, that’s probably what Americans deserve.

    McCain will bring us four more years of death, waste, and futility in the bush war of choice. He might bring us even worse in the area of war since we all know bomb, bomb, bomb Iran is his credo (he has been taking lessons from cheney!). Constant war isn’t a foreign policy! It’s an inexcusable and unnecessary cowards way of dealing with problems. It’s the easy way out you would expect from someone with no brains and no abilities to think. It’s what bushco brought us!

    McCain will bring us four more years of making sure the haves and have mores are given extra privileges economically. He will bring us four more years of leaving every child behind in our schools, four more years of most Americans not being able to afford health care, gasoline to get to work, maybe even food. A vote for McCain brings you the same as you’ve had AT BEST (it may get worse) and delays any solutions for at least FOUR MORE YEARS.

    So IF Americans elect McCain maybe they deserve nothing better.

    And maybe if McCain is elected and if we do survive, it will be the final nail in the coffin of the Republican Party.

  46. littlejohn
    Posted April 17, 2008 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    “McCain will bring us four more years of making sure the haves and have mores are given extra privileges economically. He will bring us four more years of leaving every child behind in our schools, four more years of most Americans not being able to afford health care, gasoline to get to work, maybe even food. A vote for McCain brings you the same as you’ve had AT BEST (it may get worse) and delays any solutions for at least FOUR MORE YEARS.”

    I am not voting for McCain, but is this a little over top I am thinking. Since gas consumption has only gone down a tiny percentage, then apparently most people are still affording gasoline. Since what is the numbe?, 40 million people? living in America, including illegal aliens do not have health care, then MOST Americans can still afford health care, Since MORE Students are actually progressing in most cases, EVERY child is not being left behind. I still don;t know anyone who COULD afford food who now cannot. Be for or against someone, but let’s be realistic. There are certainly problems, many of which are caused by Bush and company, with the complicit COngress who never saw someone elses dollar they didn’t want to spend, with the continuing fiasco in Iraq, with …on and on an on. However, until we are realistic with our statements, on both sides, neither side will work with each other to get anything done or find solutions. A pox on both their houses.

  47. lindainks55
    Posted April 17, 2008 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    You’re right, lj. Here’s what I should have typed in that para:

    McCain will bring us four more years of making sure the haves and have mores are given extra privileges economically. He will bring us four more years of leaving children behind in our schools, four more years of too many Americans not being able to afford health care, gasoline to get to work, maybe even food. A vote for McCain brings you the same as you’ve had AT BEST (it may get worse) and delays any solutions for at least FOUR MORE YEARS.

    And, those Americans who are spending limited resources on gasoline in order to get to work - what are they giving up? Do we know? Will it get worse? Are we seeing the tip of the iceberg?

    Thank you also for pointing out how complicit Congress is in our problems and lack of solutions. I would love to see every American vote (vs the small percentage who actually do) and every incumbent voted out of office. Inexperience seems not to be a negative to me. Experience has gotten us where we are today.

    We have problems. If they are there they are part of those problems. The longer they’ve been there the greater part of the problem they are.

  48. littlejohn
    Posted April 17, 2008 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    Hey Linda,

    I am so glad you agreed. :-). Just giving you a hard time so please don;t take offense. WHile you and I often disagree as to solutions, or even exactly the problem, we do agree that there are problems. My opinion is that there are some that can be solved by the government, some that are better solved by the government staying out of it. And by government, here I am talking about the federal goverment. If we dialogue truthfully, and without the animosity that often displayed, then we can begin to work on solutions. THe
    “you are an assswipe”, yeah, but “You are a buttface” dialogue simply does nothing. Declaring fellow Americans who disagree with you as “the enemy” does nothing. We simply must work together. It first starts with us. Then we tell the freaking politicians to get it together or get the hell out of office. Then we work on solutions. Maybe we can;t get all we want, but to settle for nothing less is to settle for nothing, imho. Anyway, have a great day

  49. lindainks55
    Posted April 17, 2008 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    I am over the top, lj. I have never been so ashamed of where politicians have taken our country. In this day of fear politics I see our leaders as those to be most feared. I alternate between being angry and feeling defeated.

    I’m equally angry at Americans. We do what politicians count on — don’t pay attention and then reward them for their deeds by reelecting them. They don’t have many worries of being held accountable at the polls.

    I hope I’ve never been among those whose dialog you referenced. I am all too human and as you pointed out, I exaggerate. I can be reasonable just don’t show it often enough.

    I agree again that there are some problems all levels of government should be involved with and others they shouldn’t. We have government in far too many parts of our lives today. We have great waste of our resources and inefficiency at all levels. Federal waste and inefficiency is the poster child but we have it at all levels.

    You have a great day too.

  50. cmantrim
    Posted April 20, 2008 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    People say that Hillary is “Dishonest”. These people have problems with Hillary and are using “Dishonesty” to have something negative to say.

    People need to discuss the issues. Such as Health Care of Children. Obama is Against Health Care for Children, unless you are rich, this was confirmed by his staff. It’s too expensive so he is not for Health Care for Poor Children. This is one of many issues that I disagree with Barack Obama.

    Concerning the “Sniper”. I have always wanted to see the “Khyber Pass”. One day in Pakistan, my driver and I, took a trip to see the Khyber Pass. When we got within 15 km of the Pass and the Driver said he was going No further. He said that we were in great danger of being kidnapped, held for ransom or killed and the we were going back. To this day I have Not Seen the Khyber Pass.

    We Did Not See, Nor was Kidnapped, Held for Ransom or Killed, But I had a strong Awareness that in the Mountains there were people who Could and Would.

    So when there were “Snipers in the Area” I am sure that it was not a figment of Senator Clinton imagination. I am sure she was Aware that a dangerous situation was present.

    If people in Dallas Texas, had just thought, that a “Sniper was in the Area” and were Aware that a dangerous situation was present, President Kennedy may still be alive.

    I am pleased that Hillary Clinton is aware of her surroundings. Presidential Candidates should be aware of issues and put forth their solutions to the problems facing the United States. What Obama and others are doing is spending their time quoting Hillary’s actions, in serious or dangerous situations, and calling Her dishonest and Degrading her Character.

    What this country need is a Person who solves the problems facing the United States, uses good Judgment and is Aware of other People and their Countries.

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