There is a bit of a coal-fueled rift in the Democratic Party, according to an analysis by Associated Press.
Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, Lt. Gov. Mark Parkinson (in photo) and some other Democrats oppose the Holcomb coal-plant proposal. But 16 of the Legislature’s 57 Democrats support it — including House Minority Leader Dennis McKinney of Greensburg. McKinney, a party stalwart, and Parkinson, a former Republican and interloper to some, both are viewed as potential gubernatorial candidates. “There are a considerable number of us who don’t want our party to be headed by Mark Parkinson,†said state Rep. Candy Ruff, D-Leavenworth.
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Democrats in FAVOR of the coal plant Kansans don’t want?
Well I should say they should be out of a job this fall.
No INCUMBENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
So… folks like the eeeeevil candy ruff will vote FOR the plant because they dont like parkinson?
aaaahhhhh hehehehehehehehehehehhehehehehheeheh!
No INCUMBENTS!
If there is just ONE topic I wish we could all agree on it would be voting out ALL incumbents. At every level of government beginning with city “officials.” They aren’t all up for reelection this time but we can be patient and give them ALL their due!
Time to vote the pro Holcomb plant supporters out.
Incumbent sounds like a word for a dried-out spice that is put on overcooked meats to revive the flavor.
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Some demos support the plant, some don’t. So what? What we elect people to do is think for themselves and do what is best for their district.
Why is it a surprise that dems don’t all walk the same line? It would be a deriliction of duty to not consider this issue like all others and do what is best for the folks that elected them.
lindainks55 and ksfarmgrrl want to take the easy way out. By lumping all incumbents into one basket they don’t have to think, make decisions, or give the elections any thought what so ever.
Bad idea!
“It would be a deriliction of duty to not consider this issue like all others and do what is best for the folks that elected them.”
Tell that to candyass ruff.
And neufeld, and morris, and huelskamp, and the whole hee haw gang!
These post just prove how stupid some of you are. Advocating the defeat of Dennis McKinney is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. We have a real leader in Dennis. Keep it up and I’ll switch to the repubs as you move our party to the left.
So… how is that rule by incumbents working for you, boy?
How is our state “thriving” with the “leadership” of all those mossback incumbents?
It takes MORE thought and work to unseat an incumbent than to blindly vote for the same jackass over and over and over and over….
Topeka, where decisions are made based on personal vendetta and politics, NOT what is best for the state or the folks who keep sending the mossbacks back.
Could this state do any WORSE with all freshmen and women? I think not.
Perhaps if they thought they might lose their little seat, they might actually have some consideration for what is right, what is good, and what may be the will of the people?
NO INCUMBENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(sorry for using all the exclamation points)
I too think that power corrupts even the most honest candidate sometimes – but – the first step has to be getting good men/women to fill the empty slots. We need to encourage people of character to run and drop the party line arguments.
Dennis McKinney is one of the finest republicans ever to be elected as a democrat.
Governor McKinney?
Hee hee hee hee. HAHAHAHAHAHA> HEEE HEE HEHEHEHEHEH!
(wipes tears)
Damn, that’s a good one!
And… is anyone surprised that the uber homophobic candyass ruff would support the equally conservative mckinney?
Gee… I wonder what jan pauls thinks….
NO INCUMBENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OF ANY PARTY!
So… boy… I’ll be waiting for an answer about how all those incumbents in Topeka are working out for the state….
Just shaking my head…
Kansas… as wingnutty as you think…
I can’t see anything partisan about voting out incumbents. It seems to me to be quite “fair and balanced.” lol
If they are there they are part of the problem.
This has nothing to do with Party! It has much to do with the pandering to the interests who have bought them. Aren’t they to serve the people? That ended when they found out out how lucrative it was to serve those who pay for their votes.
If there was even an indication WE THE VOTERS were paying attention and expecting accountability they might actually do a better job. But there isn’t. We send the same bozos back overandover.
Sending those bozos back overandover is what gives us neufeld and morris as “leaders” of the legislative process.
I read what John Hanna wrote. Funny that he didnt list the 16 democrats that support the coal plant.
Could we have a list, please?
It is nice to see that some democrats do have the
intellectual ability to see the truth.
McKinney, he’s a true Democrat like Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch…
Amway posted this yesterday, but I thought it deserved a re-post.
Anyone but me wonder why, in the face of this, we dont RETIRE water rights out west instead of pumping it out to produce electricity for Colorado?
News from the Statehouse legislative day 78:
GROUNDWATER LEVELS FALLING IN WESTERN KANSAS
Groundwater levels continued to fall this year in the western part of the state according to preliminary data compiled by the Kansas Geological Survey, while levels rose in south-central Kansas this year.
In January 2008, groundwater levels in a network of more than 1,400 wells were measured by the geological survey and the Kansas Department of Agriculture’s Division of Water Resources. For the entire network, the average water level rose slightly 0.005 feet based on preliminary estimates from the year before. In contrast, the average level had dropped a little more than a foot for the entire network between January
2006 and January 2007. The January 2008 levels varied significantly from east to west as unusually high increases in south-central Kansas offset declines to the west. “The increases and decreases are mainly precipitation-driven,” said Brownie Wilson, the geological survey’s water-data manager. Precipitation in south-central Kansas was 150% to 200% above normal in 2007 and greater than average at key times during the growing season. Some places in the southwest currently have moderate drought conditions while the rest of the area is abnormally dry.
You got that right Doug.
So… if mckinney is the dem nominee for gov, and the republicans nominate their usual, far right, wingnut nominee…
We wont have much of a choice for governator, now will we?
We’re gonna feel the pain and hangover of sebelius for a long, long, time!
Congressional stagnation is an American political theory that attempts to explain the high rate of incumbency re-election to the United States House of Representatives. In recent years this rate has been well over 90 per cent,
Ok, somewhat outdated as of last election. But didn’t I hear somwhere that Russia’s retention of incumbents is in the 80%s?
Coal plant support + not supporting Parkinson ???
How are these subjects realted???
The Republicans never have any conflicts on issues like this.
Want to know why?
They only have one brain between all of them.
“Coal plant support + not supporting Parkinson ???
How are these subjects realted???”
About the same way the Lawrence Domestic Partnership Registry is related to the coal plant.
Not at all, except for neufeld and his brownshirts and their tactics to get Sunflower what it wants. At any cost.
See, I think this is kinda funny in a sad way. Some posters whine about Hillary and her “win at any cost” tag.
Look what we’re up against. Yes, I know the difference between the federal govt and the state. But…neufeld exhibits the WORST of the republican in washington and topeka.
It isnt the moderate repubs that need to be brought over. As long as these mossbacks, both at the fed and state levels, control the levers of power, we NEED A FIGHTER to get the country back on track.
They are NOT gonna let their grip of the levers go easily and slip quietly into that good night. While you are being hopeful and inspired…
…they are holding government hostage for their donors.
Good luck with all that hope and inspiration. I bet it will convert neufeld and tihrt and graham, et al.
Because THEY hold sway, by virtue of seniority, in their own party. And as long as their party is in charge, well, you know the rest.
Those appeasement democrats like pelosi and reid didnt do much though in terms of changing things when THEY came to power.
And that’s why I say…
NO INCUMBENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(hey, if SD can use all the ?’s, I can use all the !’s.)
… and does anyone think ANYTHING will change under a “governor mckinney”. Hehehehehehheeheheheh.
Damn, that still makes me LMFQAO!
Unless the voters get rid of the mossbacks of both parties, nothing will change in Topeka. Or Washingoton.
And trust me, the people in neufeld’s and huelskamp’s districts think they are doing a FINE job!
…and meanwhile back at the ranch…
The stock tanks are still dry…
Real issues go unaddressed while all the boys and girls in topeka have their fun.
There’s a lot of talk but I don’t see any of you getting off your butts and running for office.
It’s pretty easy to complain. It’s a lot harder to run for office and do the job.
KsFmGl – Candy Ruff heard you. She isn’t running for reelection.
I’m glad to see someone besides myself likes the term “mossbacks”.
Well, now THAT is some good news, ’cause candyass ruff is just susan wagle with a “D” behind her name.
Now, if we can just get jan pauls to follow…
Maybe governor “leadership” can take the hateful pauls with her to washington when she goes! Now THAT would improve this state!
Well gee sunflower, if someone other than taliban WINGNUTS had a chance at winning elective office in kansas, maybe more of us would run?
Would you campaign for one of us?
didnt think so…
Oh and if governor “leadership” is listening…
Could you please take mark gilstrap as well?
What a buncha maroons!
Anyone has a chance of winning. Just look at Goyle who took our Huy.
So you have no excuse for not running.
You are all talk and no action.
sp – out Huy
No Incumbents? Why don’t we say, “no one with red hair,” or “no one without the special tattoo on their foreheads.” To lump all existing goverment leaders under a single category is childish and naive, especially when the category (”incumbents”) actually means “those with experience and know-how.” Yes, McKinny and Ruff like to take jabs at anyone who might pose an obstacle to their own, personal political ambitions. They don’t like Parkinson? That makes no logical sense, based on his performance and his position on all key issues. But, he is an obstacle to their own ambitions because of his competence, thus the “some of us with redhair don’t like them dat duzn’t have it!” absurdist critiques. Don’t get manipulated and bullied by self-important posters and blogerbaters. In every election, vote for the most competent candidate and our State, Country and World will be a better place. Sometimes, the most competent are incumbents. Sometimes, it’s new faces and ideas that are needed more… but don’t be a bigot against any group because it’s politically expeditious.
McKinney is already running for Governor; don’t believe his disingenuous “I have to get reelected this year” comment. He’s busy trying to get his face on as many of the Democratic delegation’s mailers as possible.
Why would he care to have his face on mail not going to his district? Think you can figure it out?
“Don’t get manipulated and bullied by self-important posters and blogerbaters. In every election, vote for the most competent candidate and our State, Country and World will be a better place.”
OMG!!!!!!!!1
That is just TOO funny. No, I’m not being swayed by any group or meme. I’m judging by performance.
And by ANY measure of performance, there isnt ONE incumbent who deserves to be sent back. To topeka or washington.
yeah, I know they have “reasons” and “excuses” for themselves. The mean ol’ (insert name) wouldnt let them do what they were elected to do.
Jesus WEPT! NO business could survive with performance like our “leaders” and elected officials have shown.
Get rid of them all and start over. I dont think the kansas legislature OR congress could get any worse if we replaced them all.
“Anyone has a chance of winning. Just look at Goyle who took our Huy”
Uh, that’s Wichita. You think he would have won in Garden City or Colby? Or even Hays?
hehehehehehehehheheheh. Good one.
Somehow, I think my chance out here as an openly lesbian, liberal, athiest woman of modest financial means are, uh, shall we say, slim?
I guess that just dooms me to the cheap seats in the hell raiser’s peanut gallery.
This blog.
“governor mckinney”
That STILL gives me the giggles every time I think of it…