GOP won’t drop ‘Bittergate,’ Novak says

obamapointingright1.jpgIn light of Barack Obama’s San Francisco comments about “bitter” Pennsylvania voters, columnist Robert Novak asks “what’s the matter with Obama?” and suggests that Democratic pros are wondering “whether the appealing unifier is really a divider.” Novak noted Obama’s criticism of the ABC debate moderators but warns that “supporters of John McCain, seeking to reel back the Obama Republicans, will press the issue from now to November.” Novak, by the way, will be the featured speaker at a dinner and lecture by the Flint Hills Center for Public Policy at 6 p.m. May 1 at the Courtyard Marriott Old Town. Cost is $35; call 316-634-0218.

43 Comments

  1. CF2K
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    Of course the Repukes will push this: between their economic failures at home and their foreign policy failures abroad, all they can do is to go back to the racial / psuedo-Populist well.

    As for Novak, what could be more farcical than his attempt to define the attitudes of “real” mainstreet Americans?

  2. annie_moose
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    Wingnuts are sissies what else`can you say?

  3. Posted April 21, 2008 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    This is same crap they’ve been shoveling for the past 30 years. No surprise there.

  4. Franklin
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    Obama’s technical advisor introduced a video of a gay, singing Jesus who gets hit by a bus:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2004723/posts

    Well now, another nut case in the Obama camp, huh?

  5. Franklin
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    By the way, Rhonda, it is NOT the “bitter” word that will haunt Obama until November.

    It is the idea that Obama looks down on people who “Cling to religion” or “Cling to guns” —

    Obama supporters are people who would laugh at a cartoon about Jesus getting run over by a bus.

    Well, Obama through his mother under the bus, I am not surprised that his campaign advisors are, literally, tossing Jesus under the bus as well:

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/04/21/obama-tech-advisor-introduces-video-gay-singing-jesus-who-gets-h

  6. Monkeyhawk
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    Come now…

    We’ve all seen the bitterness of wingnuts who contribute to this forum. “MaxGrobnik” quivers in abject fear that Obama or Hillary are going to storm his porch in a desparate effort to steal his guns. “Nethaniel” has been so screwed up by the government (and is likely among the one-in-four Iraq War veterans suffering from PTSD), “outlander” and “Franklin” and “ksgrm” and “Regular” (et al) show us just how paranoid contemporary conservatism can be.

    Do a bone-dig and try to find any of these people who actually were for John Sidney McCain the Third six or even three months ago. And now that McSame has switched from all his “straight talk” positions to promising to become a born-again McBush, the Republic Party advocates still cant come up with anything to justify their support; they can only attack the Democrats’ contenders.

    81% of Americans think America is on the Wrong Track. 28% of last-ditchers actually approve of the presidency of George WMD Bush.

  7. ksgrm
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    MH I have said it before and I will say it again. I don’t like McCain but given the choices I have I will vote for him. I had no control over the candidates the dems put up. You did and look at the choice. An admitted liar and exaggerator and a person who looks down on his country and thing clinging to our God is a bad thing that has embittered the population of small towns.

    If someone had told me a year ago the GOP would have a snowballs chance in July I would have laughed. The dems had it in the bag and are daily giving it away. No way the GOP should win this election.

  8. null
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Ha ha! Good one Monkey!

    McCain is not W. And as I mentioned to CF on another thread, what alternative do conservatives have for voting McCain? Vote for the condescending wine and cheese liberal Obama and his questionable friends? Hillary? Stay home and watch one of them win?

    I love absurdity. Thanks, I needed a good laugh.

  9. null
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    Oh by the way, this is outlander. Somehow the system signed me in as “null”. I guess “void” was taken.

  10. StevenEDavis
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    “Novak, by the way, will be the featured speaker at a dinner and lecture by the Flint Hills Center for Public Policy at 6 p.m. May 1 at the Courtyard Marriott Old Town. Cost is $35; call 316-634-0218.”

    Hey Rhonda, do you get any kick backs for advertising the cause of the propaganda arm of Koch family? The same family that brought us the infamous John Birch Society. The same group that called president John F. Kennedy a communist. Time to fess up Rhonda…

  11. lindainks55
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    I’m glad they’re running with this and won’t let it drop! Gotta go with what you’ve got. ;-)

  12. Mary_Caruso
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    Why are people scared of the truth? There is nothing Obama has said that isn’t true…for years the right wing has thrown out destractions to what’s really going on and the Bushbots soak it up like sponges. Gun rights, prayer in school, creationism, abortion…all things that have no direct effect on the major crisis our country is facing now…namely the economy, the war, the deficit, American jobs being outsourced, the disasterous Bush foreign policy…as long as the right wing can focus on stupid things like Obama knowing some radical years ago or that his minister is an asshole or that he doesn’t wear a flag pin on his lapel, they don’t have to look to see what’s really going on as a result of crazyass Republican leadership of the last 8 yrs.
    You cons are so easily distracted from the reality that is our country today…it’s absolutely pathetic and sad. Wake up and open your eyes and quit believing all the bulls**t and propaganda meant to distract you from the critical issues.

  13. null
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    “There is nothing Obama has said that isn’t true”.

    —————-

    Uh oh, Mary has been turned in an Obamapod. The glassy eyed being that believes that Obama never lies, walks on water, and can fix all that is wrong. He is magic. Quick Mary, tell me Obama’s positions on the issues, without checking his website. Can’t do it, can you?

    Change is Obama… Obama is change… Change is Obama…

  14. outlander
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    “null” was me. Again.

  15. null
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    What about “@unt-gate?” Did John McCain really call his wife a “@unt?” I guess it’ll come up in the general election “debates.”

    And Novak? Isn’t the the guy whom Karl Rove lied to the grand jury about? So the guy lies, Karl, lies to a grand jury and FBI agents and Roger Ailes then hires him at Fox. And he’s a reliable source?

    Another thing to think about: How many photos are out there with McCain and Jack Abramoff?

  16. KansasNative
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Ksgrm has said it best:

    “I don’t like McCain but given the choices I have I will vote for him.”

    Real enthusiastic isn’t it?

    We shall see who can get out the vote come November.

  17. Franklin
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    And, from this Blog, it is easy to see that half the Dems will not be happy with their nominee.

  18. null
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    “What about “@unt-gate?” Did John McCain really call his wife a “@unt?” I guess it’ll come up in the general election “debates.”
    *
    *
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    For a null, you sure are dumb. We nulls don’t repeat crap from lying radical liberal websites.

  19. Franklin
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    Lessig, the technical advisor to Obama,
    Lessig, the man that runs part of the Obama website,
    Lessig introduced this video of a gay Jesus getting hit by a bus, at a business meeting, and Lessig thought it was funny:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V0JOBxkGx0

  20. KansasNative
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    McCain does have a foul mouth (like many people of his generation) and yes he did use the c-word with Cindy in ‘92.

  21. Posted April 21, 2008 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    I hate to be so damned rude, but who is “null?”

  22. null
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 6:31 pm | Permalink

    A null is an empty object or in this case an empty variable used as a place holder for the name field on the registration.

    It’s a blog error with the registration system.

    I’m not an error, but the null at 6:15pm is. :)

  23. null
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 6:32 pm | Permalink

    null is me this time, Franklin, BUT null is also anyone else who tries to post after letting this page sit idle for very long.
    This is dumb!
    There have been about 4 or 5 different “nulls” today.

  24. lindainks55
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    wsc, so far today “null” has been CF2K, Outlander, Franklin and a couple others. “Null” has opinions that span the political spectrum and it gets very confusing very quickly! This brought to you by REGISTRATION I guess.

    When WordPress decides I need to log out just to log back in I get nothing posted under any nic. So, who knows what’s going on!

  25. Posted April 21, 2008 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    LOL! Tighty-righties are calling Larry Lessig a nut???

    Among the man’s many accomplishments, he was special master for the Microsoft trial. Read on, fools:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Lessig

    Anyone mildly aware of tech-policy issues has known about this man for at least a decade.

    After being less than impressed with Obama’s science advisor, this made me feel a little better.

  26. KansasNative
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    I kind of like the idea of randomly selecting posters and “null”ifying them by taking away their nic.

    However, God help Brownlee if it happens to Regular. He would probably have a stroke (or one of his personalities would).

  27. Phantom
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    Plame Gate, Iraq Gate, all pale in comparison! Never let them Forget, Novak (you traitorous scumbag).

  28. null
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    Psul likes to point at ‘friends’ - well, how about this one from the Bush/McBush crowd:

    Former Justice Dept. official to admit to taking gifts in Abramoff case

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/34414.html

    And, while McSame tries to tell us how he will reform the financial mess, don’t forget HIS role in the S&L debacle.

  29. MaxGrobnik
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    Why drop such an important issue from debate? Are ya Libs afraid to talk about your Candidate Obama who does not support the basic human right to defend yourself in your own home?

    If Obama won’t support the right to self-defense in your own home, what rights of Freedom will he support?

    He’s about change and hope, but not self defense. Obama must have a “higher” level agenda, that does NOT include individual rights of freedom.

    But, you Socialists, will LOVE his agenda!

  30. MaxGrobnik
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    You LIBS will LOVE the agenda of Obama who does not want you to have the right to defend your own life, in your own home!

    Barack Obama’s Slippery Oratory
    by Wayne LaPierre, Executive Vice President
    NRA Standing Guard - April 11, 2008

    To understand Barack Obama on the Second Amendment, you have to know about the clash of character between the then-Chicago state senator and an ordinary citizen who exercised his right to armed self-defense in violation of a local gun ban.

    That citizen was a 52-year-old resident of Wilmette, Illinois, who, on Dec. 28, 2003, woke to find that, during the night, his home had been invaded by a career criminal; a thief who stole household items, keys and the homeowner’s car.

    The victim, Hale DeMar, described his fear in a letter to the Chicago Sun- Times: “For me, the seconds until I found my children still safely tucked in their beds were horrifying . . . The police were called and in routine fashion they came, took the report and with little concern left, promising to increase surveillance. Little comfort, since the invader now had keys to our home and our automobiles. The police informed me that this was not an uncommon event in east Wilmette and offered their condolences . . .” Not 24 hours after the first burglary, the thief returned. Using DeMar’s house keys, the man entered the home, this time setting off the alarm system, automatically notifying the security company. Given the previous night’s lackluster response by police, DeMar was prepared, armed with a handgun–legally purchased years before and kept in a safe. But under Wilmette’s gun ban, that firearm in the home was illegal.

    DeMar confronted the criminal, and believing his children were in danger, shot the burglar, who then fled the home.

    “Until you are shocked by a piercing alarm in the middle of the night and met in your kitchen by a masked invader as your children shudder in their beds, until you confront that very real nightmare, please don’t suggest that some village trustee knows better … “If my actions have spared only one family from the distress and trauma that this habitual criminal has caused hundreds of others, then I have served my civic duty and taken one evil creature off of our streets, something that our impotent criminal justice system had failed to do, despite some thirty odd arrests, plea bargains and suspended sentences.” The burglar, who was arrested after driving DeMar’s stolen SUV to a hospital, had an extensive criminal record.

    Cook County prosecutors ultimately declared DeMar’s use of a firearm to be justified. But Wilmette village officials pressed nonetheless to prosecute him for illegal possession of his handgun–a charge punishable by a huge fine and jail time. A town official was quoted in Reason magazine saying, “We need to set the example that we’re trying to protect our citizens.” And he said, DeMar–by possessing a legally purchased handgun–”is endangering innocent civilians.” The outcry of the Illinois public was heard all the way to the state capitol.

    As a result, the Illinois House and Senate passed legislation in May 2004 to protect citizens who use handguns in self-defense in their homes or businesses despite local handgun bans.

    The House accepted the DeMar selfdefense bill by a vote of 86-25 and the Senate moved the legislation on a 38-20 vote.

    And here lies the seminal moment for state Senator Barack Obama. When Obama turned thumbs down on the bill, he voted against the most basic element of the Second Amendment– the right of defense of self and family– the reason that millions of Americans own firearms.

    When the governor vetoed the bill, Obama once again voted against a citizen’s right to self-defense.

    Despite his vote, the veto override passed the Senate and the House by overwhelming majorities, thereby enacting this bill into law.

    Now, fast forward to today’s slippery oratory of U.S. Sen. Barack Obama just three years from being an unknown state senator–now morphed by the media into a spellbinding u.s. senator seeking to be president of the United States.

    Using words like “protecting sportsmen,” Obama is now saying that he believes in the Second Amendment … but with almost universal exceptions, all of which he lists under the heading of “common sense gun safety laws.” “Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? Like endorsing the D.C. gun ban, which outlaws armed self-defense in the home–now being challenged before the u.s. Supreme Court. Obama, who as president would be in the position to nominate justices to that high court, has declared that the d.c. ban doesn’t violate the Second Amendment.

    “Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? In a “1998 National Political Awareness Test,” he pledged to support a “Ban [on] the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons”–meaning most handguns and many rifles and shotguns that you and I own.

    “Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? Like demanding that the federal government preempt the 40 hard-won state laws creating Right-to-Carry.

    Here’s how the Chicago Tribune put it: “Obama said he opposed allowing ordinary citizens to carry concealed weapons and that a federal law banning concealed carried weapons except for law enforcement is needed.” “Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? Like the draconian proposals funded to the tune of $18,000,000 by the rabidly anti-gun Joyce Foundation while Obama was an activist member of its board of directors.

    Obama’s alleged support of the Second Amendment is utterly cynical and false. Barack Obama is not for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms; he`s out to destroy it.

    http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=418899

  31. Jed
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

    Hey Maxie,
    Why are you so paranoid? I’ve lived most of my life in neighborhoods that would probably scare the livin’ sh*t out of you just to drive through, and I’ve never once felt the need to keep a gun.

  32. Mary_Caruso
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    MaxGrobnik…*yawn*..

  33. BlueJay
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    “and suggests that Democratic pros are wondering “whether the appealing unifier is really a divider.”

    That’s my thinking too.

    It was Obama’s own words distanced me.

    And every day, that distance grows wider.

    I dislike his smarminess. And on the ONE occasion when real questions were put to him?

    He AND some of his supporters acted like petulant children.

  34. Boxlock
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    Max,
    The DemLibs are too afraid to defend themselves. They need, and I mean NEED, a nanny government to care for and protect them. Even though it’s a false hope. I guess you can’t blame a rabbit for its timidity, or a jackal for it’s detestably nature, that’s just the way they are made, same with DemLibs. Fortunately there are stronger people to lead.
    What they fail to realize of course is that THEY are their own and the country’s worst enemy.
    Fortunately they repeatedly prove themselves to be just plain stupid. Just look at the way they are running their campaign, or the House of Reps, they are to be laughed at. That should make anyone fear what would happen if they get in.
    Lets just sit back and watch the spectacle of them embarrassing themselves over and over and over.

  35. BlueJay
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    “What they fail to realize of course is that THEY are their own and the country’s worst enemy.”

    Not MY take their “Box”

    My worst enemy would be …well…you.

    “Fortunately they repeatedly prove themselves to be just plain stupid. ”

    Uh huh.

    Senators Clinton and Obama are outraising old John about 8 to 1 in funds. Turnout is record.

    “The DemLibs are too afraid to defend themselves.”

    Oh I’m well aware a ….conflict… is coming.

    I’m eager for it.

  36. Posted April 21, 2008 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    “The DemLibs are too afraid to defend themselves.”

    Take for instance, George McGovern who flew bombing runs in WW2 or John Kennedy who skippered PT 109 or his eldest brother who died flying or Max Cleland who left his legs in Vietnam or John Murtha the former Marine Corps Drill Instructor who volunteered for Vietnam.

    As for this DemLib, if you threaten me or mine, you’ll find out how “afraid” I am to defend myself.

    D!ckl!ck.

  37. Posted April 21, 2008 at 10:21 pm | Permalink

    Old No-Facts is coming to Wichita.

    It’s demonstration time!

  38. Boxlock
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 10:34 pm | Permalink

    See how silly they become, like a bunch of undisciplined children throwing a tantrum.
    Ha, I love it.

    CapnAmerica Posted April 21, 2008 at 10:20 pm
    “As for this DemLib, if you threaten me or mine, you’ll find out how “afraid” I am to defend myself.
    D!ckl!ck.”

    All they come back with are rants and name calling, whoa….am I impressed CapnPu$$y!

  39. StevenEDavis
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 11:09 pm | Permalink

    “All they come back with are rants and name calling, whoa….am I impressed CapnPu$$y!”

    Real impressive and yet mature response. Or, maybe not!

  40. killerpizza
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 11:46 pm | Permalink

    columnist Robert Novak asks “what’s the matter with Obama?”

    another dumb ass repuke talking head.

    really… wtf’s the matter with the people who listen to novak ??

  41. Boxlock
    Posted April 22, 2008 at 6:42 am | Permalink

    “Real impressive and yet mature response. Or, maybe not!”

    Granted StevenEDavis, but I was simply handing back what was handed to me first.
    This thread has post after post ridiculing Republicans and Conservatives, yet throw one back and folks like Capn go ballistic. They can sure dish it but have zero tolerance taking it themselves. I’m was simply feeding them some of their own for them to see how it tastes.

  42. kansasdem
    Posted April 22, 2008 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    Who’s behind the group that invited Novak? And why Novak? I hope the Eagle covers his remarks and follows the money.

  43. Franklin
    Posted April 22, 2008 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    The number of murders in the Chicago area, over the last several months, should ABSOLUTELY be an issue in this campaign.
    Obama is a political leader, in Chicago.
    Obama does not want people to defend themselves.

    And, innocent people in Chicago are getting killed by thugs, on a regular basis!

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