Hi there. I just stopped by and I’ve got to say you have a kewl site! Come see my college grants site….

In winter I might not get enough to totally replace gas heat but it sure could place a dent in it.

Community Wind: This is a concept being developed at K-State through their agricultural extension service. The idea here is a conventional wind farm but, instead of being owned by some utility it is owned through a cooperative by the residents of the area. they then share toe power and become self-sufficient.

ANTI - I don’t know if that technology itself would work but I think there are MANY things we can be using. There is not one solution - there are MANY solutions.

One thing that helps me reduce my own energy use is the fact that I only heat into the 60s and cool into the high 70s. With the solar idea above I might have the house down into the 60s at sundown and then just let it warm a bit overnight in mid-summer. think of not having those horrible electric bills in July.

When I lived in LA they had an insulation program underwritten y the gas utility. It was great - I had an old house with absolutely nothing in the attic. I contracted with the gas company; they in turn had a ‘mom-and-pop’ outfit (actually dan and son with mom running the office) to do the job. A winner all around. The small-business contractor got a lot of work and was assured payment. No advertising or billing overhead for him so he both made good money and could still charge less. I paid for the work through by monthly gas bills. The payments for the insulation did NOT increase my bill because my gas consumption went down. So, in effect I got it for free. the gas company got to figure that into their rate base somehow to protect their investments. Not charity by any means - simply a program that worked.

If the companies are forced, we will pay for the loss in higher cost….They won’t take a hit like that with out making up the difference. It will be in the form of a higher “service charge”.

They might, however, be productive on a per house basis, if we can get the state and fed involved in forcing energy companies to buy back energy fed back into the system through the units. Worth checking out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paxI4y_WmZI

https://www.agiweb.org/geotimes/nov04/feature_climate.html

Ice coverage is also a smoking gun. As the ice shrinks, less heat is reflected back into space. The heats got to go somewhere. Also, as the glaciers continue to melt, that water, being land based, adds to the sea level, risking major coastal catastrophes.

Combine all three, and a problem making Katrina look like a popcorn fart can be in the works. Plan for it; this planet neither knows, nor cares, we are on it. It will be here long after we’re gone, and the arrogance of people with their heads in the sand can only tend to hasten that end.

A link to an animation video showing changing ice coverage from 1979 to 2007:
http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a000000/a003400/a003464/index.html

An excellent article on sea level changes:
http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/mtsparker.html

The plants are not needed for Kansas. The plants are not wanted by Kansans.

The plants will not, they MUST not be built.

Good for Bremby standing his ground! That’s a man with a political future.

According to my calculations, as I recall, these power plants will use some 100 million gallons of NEW water per year in the generation of power. PLUS more water will be needed for ethanol manufacturing plants that have been mentioned to be built on the site. PLUS more water will be needed for irrigation of crops that might be grown on their property surrounding the power plants and for ethanol ingredients.

This adds up to more water than is used by the City of Wichita and surrounding suburbs.

And the water that will be taken from the Ogallala aquifer normally flows or oozes slowly deep underground southwesterly towards central Kansas where some furnishes the water in the north and south branches of the Ninnescah Rivers that eventually provide the water in Cheney Reservoir and the Equus Beds aquifer that together provide the millions of gallons of drinking water used by the Wichita Water Department for Wichita’s drinking water supply.

This Ogallala water does NOT, for all practical purposes, recharge.

How can I say it plainer? These two coal-fired power plants plus the one already there threaten the sources of drinking water for Wichita.

Kansas needs to go on an immediate five year program of building wind power sources around the state of Kansas. Diffusion is the answer … the wind is bound to blow somewhere in the state at all times.

I need to learn more about operating characteristics of Wolf Creek Nuclear Power Plant in Burlington County. However, at this point I think expansion of that plant should be seriously examined.

And we need to accelerate the examination of more electrical based trains because it now appears that gasoline is going to be priced out of range of most middle-class Americans very soon.

Unfortunately most of our politicians have their heads stuck in the sand and don’t see what is going on in the big picture.

capn - was that Champaign-Urbana? I did some asphalt research there lone ago. Trying to find ways to ‘rejuvenate’ asphalt pavement - the so-called Superpave projects.
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Hmmm, I think they tried some of that stuff on Ohio roads when I was stationed at Wright-Patterson.

The problem with it was that it was too good.

The patches they made from the compound stayed, but the road around it crumbled. :)

Good night all, I am off to attend Final Friday art gallery events.

Lemme know when the deniers come around……….

Going back 600 million years.

As far back as we can measure.

Just coincidence, I suppose . . .

Thanks to that, I remembered that the main method to analysis correlations was called ANOVA, not NOVA.

I love it when you post all this techincal crap, Regular.

Because I don’t have to bother to refute it.

All I have to do is remember that even if it meant what you say it meant, you wouldn’t know it meant that . . .
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Some of us spent time in college learning science Capn.

Unlike yourself, who thought splitting open that fetal pig or pickled frog in Biology class was all the science you were going to need. :)

And while your at it, tell me what 1 degree rise in Temperature over 100 years time (the IPCC measurements) have precisely what effects and where.

As cosmos used to say:

Go do a paper on this matter, get it peer-reviewed and let us know your conclusions.

And just when did you get your PhD in Climatology Capn? Is this a new thing or are you one of the GORACLE’s lemmings?

:)

Because I don’t have to bother to refute it.

All I have to do is remember that even if it meant what you say it meant, you wouldn’t know it meant that . . .

Pay no attention to the graph above showing a steady rise over the last 50 of CO2 from 318 ppm to 380 ppm today.

That’s only a 20 percent rise over 50 years.

We’ll probably be okay.

Now our grandkids on the other hand . . . well . . . they’re so f***ed.