Hillary Clinton has surged ahead of John McCain by 9 percentage points in a hypothetical general election match, according to a new Associated Press/Ipsos poll. Barack Obama leads McCain by 2 points in the poll.
The poll strengthens her argument that she is the most electable. However, other surveys and exit polls indicate that Obama would get most of Clinton’s supporters if he faced McCain. The New York Times reported that according to surveys of Pennsylvania voters leaving the polls last week, “Mr. Obama would draw majorities of support from lower-income voters and less-educated ones - just as Mrs. Clinton would against Mr. McCain, even though those voters have favored her over Mr. Obama in the primaries. And national polls suggest Mr. Obama would also do slightly better among groups that have gravitated to Republicans in the past, like men, the more affluent and independents, while she would do slightly better among women.”
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I was watching The Colbert Report last night.
He ran a bunch of articles from the 2004 election saying that Kerry was the most “electable” cnadidate and mocked how it was good he was chosen to be the nominee.
And we all seen how “electable” he was.
LOL
Any other liberals watch that?
“Nathaniel” enlightens us with –
“And we all seen how “electable” he was.”
Oh. We “seen” it, did we?
Grammar. It’s not just for elitists.
Colbert has kinda lost his edge lately. He is only about as funny as the daily show now. But I see the point. I think that is why so many people are yawning at this Blog. As an independent, the jury is still out between Obama and McCain, but it will be a cold day in $%*& before I vote for Hillary.
Yawning indeed!!
The same old discussion is getting crusted pretty badly.
Do the editors have anything else that they can think of or they lacking in imagination?
You know, things are not quite as good for the GOP as they were in 2004. But, please, continue to believe they are…
Whispers: ‘It’s the economy, stupid.’
The fact that at this stage in the process - with all the division among Democrats and the Republicans united BOTH Clinton and Obama are leading McCain says that McCain is very beatable. I cannot see him rising; everyone on his side of the field has already coalesced behind him.
Here’s a novel idea.
McCain can’t win.
He should drop out of the race!
If Hillary and Obamma drop out, McCain Might win!
It appears the vote of the democrats in their state elections will be null and void. This thread topic is the trial ballon for super delegates to vote for Hillary - for the good of the party.
Personally I am sick of politics and wish there was a time limit on them, like 3 months before the vote. We discuss their personalities, their use of lapel pins, their clothes, their ministers and friends. What about the issues? I want to hear about the issues not this superfluous crap.
agreed Wichi. This campaign has already lasted over a year. Thankfully, we will only have to wait a week at a time until this is almost finished.
Can Dubya drop out?
OHhhh the suspense, who will drop out, who will drop dead?
I wouldn’t support Hillary if I wasn’t sure she could win. All we have to focus on is how good the clinton years were, how BAD the Bush years (and I do mean ALL of the Bush years) have been.
It’s pretty simple.
Wichi
Yes, issues are important.
However, every President will be confronted with things that were never expected, during the campaign for office.
These other, seemingly personal issues can give us a clue how someone might act, under pressure.
In this case, the long election season has vetted Obama, and the nation is better for it.
“In this case, the long election season has vetted Obama, and the nation is better for it.”
The Clinton/McCain Machine has gotten their wish - they have brought race into the campaign while maintaining a plausible position of not making race an issue.
The Republican/Democrat power structure has decreed that a black man should not/cannot be elected president.
And the nation is far worse off for their efforts.
We have now reaped what we have sown.
We thought that we deserved better but we were wrong.
Pmom I’m not a Bush apologist. I see his flaws but to say that all was bad about the Bush years is using a head in the sand approach. The economy has been strong, unemployment low - those are facts.
Fact now - the economy has slowed down to a crawl. It is fixable and we need a strong person with the fortitude to do that. More taxes IMHO are not the answer. No economy has every been taxed into being robust.
We need job creation, commodity consumption and industry output to create an economy that will be self sustaining. Government expanding isn’t the answer.
I’m not sure if we have a condidate who has the expertise to do any of this. I cringe at the choices we have on both sides of the aisle.
The length of this campaign has allowed us to see the best and the worst of each candidate. It is up to us to make good decisions when we vote.
“condidate”
The only candidate is Barack Obama.
The other two are CONdidates.
WS
I would vote for:
J.C. Watts
Condi Rice
Walter Williams
Thomas Sole
I will not vote for a leftist like Obama.
Especially, not a leftist like Obama that does not even have the courage to tell us who he really is!
I tend to agree with Ben, all the more so if you take a closer look at the electoral maps. My preferred site is http://electoral-vote.com. The opening page is a combined electoral comparison of Clinton and Obama. There are links to each individual contest.
Immediate caveat, for everyone: the polls tend to swing wildly. in 2004, polls briefly showed Kerry carrying Oklahoma . He got slaughtered there on election day. This site also links to poll trends–the fewer polls, obviously, the less reliable the conclusion.
Having said that, it looks like–with both candidates–that red/blue divide is breaking down. Hillary is leading McCain in Missouri, while Obama is holding Colorado and tied in North Carolina. The bad news: for both candidates, several states in the Gore/Kerry coalition are looking weak.
This could prove to be a most unpredictable election.
Yes WS I saw that just as I posted and thought it might have reflected my real opinion of politicians. Freudian slip.
“I will not vote for a leftist like Obama.”
Who gives a good god damn about what you think, Rossell?
The political establishment in Washington has won and America has lost and Democrats and Republicans alike are celebrating.
This is a closed party and “uppity outsiders” (wink, wink, nod) are not welcome.
People forget that Kerry was considering John McCain for a Vice President spot in 2004.
Guess McCain only becomes ultra conservative when its convenient for duh Libs.
McCluer, how many tours of duty did you serve in Viet Nam?
Guess McCain only becomes ultra conservative when its convenient for duh Libs.
And most of us were appalled. Lloyd Bentsen was at least a Democrat.
On most issues, McCain is and always has been a conservative. As a Congressman, he was Reagan’s uncritical cheerleader, both on maintaining a bloated military-industrial complex and bankrupting the government.
McCain showed an outbreak of common sense when he opposed the Bush tax cuts but apparently he decided that fiscal irresponsibility is the only way to win. Maybe after Jan 20th, they’ll go the way of Clinton’s middle-class tax cut, but I sure as hell wouldn’t take that bet.
Ah Clark, one of the many Blog Liberal designated harassers.
Who cares what you think about me Clark? But please do continue whining and complaining, it shows every one exactly what you are.
“Ah Clark, one of the many Blog Liberal designated harassers”
Jeez, it should be an easy question, right?
“McCluer, how many tours of duty did you serve in Viet Nam?”
Christ, McCluer, just answer the question - you “should” be proud of your “service.”
Hillary is going to appear on the O’Reilly Factor which will air in Wednesday and Thursday.
Thanks to this prolonged campaign, both Obama and Clinton have sunk to new lows by appearing on a “far right” news program.
Only a few remnants of the once vast right wing conspiracy watch that program, right? Those are the votes Obama and Clinton are after now?
So much for McCain being the candidate who panders to the right and loses the moderates.
Clinton and Obama are pandering to the right to save their campaign.
RFL, your kidding right? In 28 states the raw vote count for Obama or Clinton (each alone, not together) was more votes than the entire republican field combined. Let me spell that out for you Obama vs entire repub field, more votes. Clinton vs entire repub field, more votes. That’s either/or against the whole field. Why do you think Obama or Clinton would need to grab republican voters in the first place? This one I gotta hear.
I think you are correct VET. Whichever one wins the Dem nomination will get the other’s votes. I don’t see any of them going over to “100 years” McCain.
O’Reilly bullied them into an appearance huh?
Well that kinda figures. There might be a sliver of voters that Obama or Clinton might court that watch or listen to O’Reilly.
I wonder which one of them agreed first.
See that’s how Billo does it. Whichever one he bullied into it first, he then went to the other candidates campaign and threatened them.
Either way, if ya don’t do O’Reilly’s show, he accuses you of “being afraid of the no spin zone”. Then he never ever stops mentioning it.
John Edwards told him not no but HELL NO and earned the undying scorn of schlockster, and B rate porn novelist O’Reilly.
“RFL, your kidding right?”"Why do you think Obama or Clinton would need to grab republican voters in the first place? This one I gotta hear?”
Are you asking ME why Obama’s and Clinton’s campaign strategy is what is? Sorry Vet, I have no insider information to share with you.
From your incredulity, I guess you are thinking that Clinton is appearing on a biased right wing news show and Obama is showing up doing interviews on the conservative cheerleading station just for grins, huh?
After all, with all the “raw vote count”, there are plenty of sure thing votes to seal the deal.
Or is there?
Here’s a novel idea.
McCain can’t win.
He should drop out of the race!
I am for that! Ron Paul is still in the race!
Ok so in order to reach the finish line he will have to hail a cab… But he is still running! Walking… strolling… stop to smell the flowers!
I watched Obama on Fox news Sunday ( I have not heard of him agreeing to appear on O’Reilly) I have been waiting for someone to say that Wallace was playing softball on Obama. But Wallace is the closest that Fox has to an actual journalist so no big surprise there. Hillary mocked about heat and the Kitchen about Obama. Now Fox is jumping into the fire! How better to show that they have no power over you then to go on Fox? Hillary on O’Reilly? my my, Hillary has a set it seems… Good on her!
Back to topic, and my opinion of the three candidates, Clinton and Mc Cain are the closest match up. But please understand in my mind that is not a good thing! If that is my choices… I have a coin in my pocket just for voting.
There will be about 1,000 polls between now and election day. I don’t get too excited or distraught about any of them, and it would be silly for anyone to make decisions based on who is ahead by how many points on a given day.
RSL, unlike you, I won’t be presume to know the mind of Hillary Clinton. But if you must have a speculation, here are two possible reasons why they may go on Billo: 1. Warm up for the General Election or 2: A ticket punch for the independents. But to think that Hillary or Obama go to Billo to try to take votes. That is like Dubya going on countdown and trying to get Keith Olberman viewers to accept wiretapping.
VET - I think Clinton might want to show that she has the cajones to take on the devil in his own lair.
Heh
You might be right Ben.
I heard Billo on his radio show for awhile today.
He was fretting in his own pompous way about what pointed questions he would ask Senator Clinton in order to keep her from “making me look like a fool”.
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