Vice President Dick Cheney is busy these days “casting the Iranian leadership as apocalyptic zealots who yearn for a nuclear conflagration,” Dan Froomkin wrote for the Washington Post. Froomkin noted how Cheney’s claims ignore the last National Intelligence Estimate, which concluded that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003. And he said that the prophecies about “the 12th Imam” marked Cheney’s “revival of an old neocon chestnut.”Â
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“Rah rah rah Only 8 months left rah rah rah!”
“Rah rah rah Ammageddon it! rah rah rah.
The Red Republicans are afraid of the boogieman hiding under their beds.
Without FEAR, the Reds got nothing.
Shouldn’t Cheney be out there looking for those pesky WMDs? After all, he KNOWS where they are!
Cheney is busy eyeing property in Dubai. After Bush or McCain drops a nuke on Iran, he will be first in line at the fire sale.
I think the War Nerd put it best last year, when he re-envisioned Cheney as a super-double-secret-double-agent for Iran. After all, what has the war in Iraq accommplished more effectively than to establish Iran as the dominant power in the region?
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Here is the War Nerd.
“But let’s take the question seriously for a second here: who won in Iraq? To answer it, you have to start with a close-up of the region, then change magnification to look at the world picture. At a regional level the big winner is obvious: Iran. In fact, Iran wins so big in this war that I’ve already said that Dick Cheney’s DNA should be checked out by a reputable lab, because he has to be a Persian mole. My theory is that they took a fiery young Revolutionary Guard from the slums of Tehran, dipped him in a vat of lye to get that pale, pasty Anglo skin, zapped his scalp for that authentic bald CEO look, squirted a quart of cholesterol into his arteries so he’d develop classic American cardiac disease, and parachuted him into the outskirts of some Wyoming town. And that’s how our VP was born again, a half-frozen zombie with sagebrush twigs in his jumpsuit, stumbling into the first all-night coffee shop in Casper talking American with a Persian accent: “Hello my friends! Er, I mean, hello my fellow Americans! Coffee? I will have coffee at once, indeed, and is not free enterprise a glorious thing? Say, O brethren of the frosty tundra, what do you say we finish our donuts and march on Baghdad now, this very moment, to remove the Baathist abomination Saddam?”
It took a couple years for Cheney-ajad to get his American accent right and chew his way into Bush Jr.’s head, but he made it like one of Khan’s earwigs, got us to do the Ayatollahs’ dirty work for them by taking out Iraq, their only rival for regional power. Iraq is destroyed, and Tehran hasn’t lost a single soldier in the process. Our invasion put their natural allies, the Shia, in power; gave their natural enemies, the Iraqi Sunni, a blood-draining feud that will never end; and provided them with a risk-free laboratory to spy on American forces in action. If they feel like trying out a new weapon or tactic to deal with U.S. armor, all they have to do is feed the supplies or diagrams to one of their puppet Shia groups, or even one of the Sunni suicide-commando clans.
All these claims that Iran is helping the insurgents really make my head spin. Of course they’re helping. They’d be insane if they weren’t. If somebody invades the country next door, any state worth mentioning has to act. If Mexico got invaded by China, you better believe the U.S. would react. We’d lynch any president who didn’t.”
http://can.mailarchive.ca/politics/2007-05/5557.html
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And now Cheney wants to turn on his paymasters and bomb them back Into the Stone Age / Regime Change? The ingratitude!
Seriously, though, Dick really does need to chill out. At the rate he’s going, retirement will seem him not confined to U.S. borders as an international war criminal, but confined to Wyoming as persona non grata in the rest of the civilized world.
We simple have to stop this madman and the idiot Bush from further damage to our country. I think the Congress should move forward now and cut off ALL military spending except for salaries of military people until after Bush is gone. If they don’t have any money, they cannot start a new war!
I thought bush was the 12th Imam! Where’s the world peace, courtesy of the New World Order?
From my undisclosed sources,
big dick cheney bases all his foreign policy on the left behind series of books. He’s a rapture ready kind of guy. See for yourself;
http://www.leftbehind.com/
Cheney’s a left behind? I thought he was the right cheek.
Cheney nor Bush have any pull to do a darn thing about Iran. They were warned before going into Iraq that it might prevent us from doing something about real threats to our nation. So now we can stand idly by and reap what we have sown.
We can hope our ex allies will do something. But we can’t. Thanks neocons for making us safer!
I notice that one of the side effects of a prolonged war is the reaction of a war weary public to a legitimate threat.
Which is to pretend it doesn’t exist. Unfortunately folks, that won’t make it go away.
Valid point outlander. Too bad your idiot boye Bush squandered it all away.
outlander,
And I notice that one of the side effects seen in a public that was lied about apocalyptic threats (”we don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud” said Condi) is that it knows inflated threats when it sees them.
Or, as a certain Chief Executive said,
“There’s an old saying . . . ‘Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. [Pause.] Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.’ ”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/08/AR2006050801334.html
Already a morning full of hate. Nice morning too.
No Littlejohn…not hate…that would imply fear.
You Reds are the ones full of fear. We Blues are full of disgust for what you Reds have done to the US and what used to be a Constitutional government.
We will right it again soon…promise.
KansasNative
Sorry, I am not a Bush/Cheney supporter. Nor am I afraid of you, the “blues” or the big bad wolf. I would like nothing better than a constitutuional government. Unfortunately, what we have now, and what we have had for many years, underst Democrats and Republicans alike, is not. You want to hate or call names, or what ever, just points you out as someone who really doesn;t give a shit about solutions, only about painted those who disagree with you in the most hateful light. Shows your fear, and ignorance. Bye bye
What you call hate
What you call hate littlejohn, I see as disgust.
Where is the hate in the above posts?
Glad that you are not part of the Reds and want to help restore Constitutional government back to the US.
You are entitled to your opinion about the rest but I believe you are almost entirely wrong and see hate where there is none.
Have a great day!!! (I most certainly am!)
Your right. My bad. I apologize.
“Already a morning full of hate.”
If you you take our light hearted sarcastic view of current policy as hate then so be it.Some of us are tired of murdering our fellow humans in the name of security or religion or economics.It’s not a black or white world or my way or the highway or your with me or agin me. Think about it.
Cheney has information from a “reliable source” that Iran is building nukes and other WMDs. The source is code-named “spitball”; he is the brother-in-law of “curveball” – the guy who told us all about Saddam’s WMDs.
Sure, Old Dick “Halliburton” Cheney loves war for oil.
He earned 36 million from Halliburton already. Another invasion, and he’s gonna be Bill Gates. Don’t forget that he’s still on Halliburton’s payroll.
Our loss is literally his gain.
A few well-timed strikes in Iran (publicized this time as opposed to the covert operations BushCo. has been running), and the ‘Pukes may not lose in November.
Just depends on how stupid the American people choose to be.
The 9/11 commission in their report, and in the more extensive coverage in this book:
http://www.philipshenon.com/content/index.asp ,
there are ear implications that Iran helped a majority of the 9/11 attackers get out of Afghanistan. I am doubting this link has been fully explored.
The Saudis have been rather lame in dealing with the Al Qaeda factions within their borders. Iraq had nothing to do with the 9/11 despite persistent Cheney claims to the contrary.
This administration’s response to the worst attack on American soil has been the very definition of “FUBAR”.
“This administration’s response to the worst attack on American soil”
Ya know Steven, it was pretty much FUBAR BEFORE the attack too! Ya know bush saying “ok you covered your ass now watch this shot” when asked about the infamous NIE.
And Condi saying “who could predict” when HER OWN NIE did exactly that.
Indeed. FUBAR is the KINDEST thing to say.
“there are ear implications that Iran helped a majority of the 9/11 attackers get out of Afghanistan”
This seems very similar to the BS that saddam helped his alQuada enemies with 9/11. This might come as a surprise to the neocons but Shiite Iran and Wahabi alQuada are and have been enemies for a long time.
Wahabi’s roots are in SAUDI ARABIA!
“This seems very similar to the BS that saddam helped his alQuada enemies with 9/11.”
There seem to be good sources for this info. The question is was there collusion on the part of Iran for the 9/11 plot? That would seem impossible to prove, IMO. It is possible any help they provided was unknown to them at the time. There at least was some evidence of a connection, whereas with Iraq there was none.
annie_moose
Posted April 14, 2008 at 8:28 am | Permalink
“Already a morning full of hate.”
If you you take our light hearted sarcastic view of current policy as hate then so be it.Some of us are tired of murdering our fellow humans in the name of security or religion or economics.It’s not a black or white world or my way or the highway or your with me or agin me. Think about it.
You are right. My bad. I apologize.
KFG,
The book I cite above, explores how very disingenous the Bush administration was in their dealings with the 9/11 commission. Zelikow, Condi’s friend, and the Whitehouse director of the Commission*, was in constant contact with Karl Rove during the time of commission’s work. They shaped every response and drug their heels every inch of the way. They recognized and responded to the political threat the Commission posed for Bush’s 2004 campaign.
*Who also got a cush job under Condi after the Commission ended its work – pure coincidence, I am sure…
Too late to look into Iran, we shot our wad in Iraq!
Those Jersey girls, the ones Ann Colter hated so much, really gave Zelikow a hard time. They nick-named Condoleeza, “Kinda-Lies-Alot”.
The jersey widows, Steven?
You are right. My bad. I apologize.
then welcome to the dark side
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtXN_EHPwSg
Annie, as far as the tighty-righties go, LJ seems to be the least offensive and most open-minded of the whole lot.
It’s really easy being a Lib. All one has to do is whine and complain about what other people do or have done.
That’s it, no intelligence required.
(chortles)
Walkin’ on by this fine Kansas mornin’…
Thanks for the music Annie!!
Hey Fish,
Nothing wrong with LJ everybody got the right to speak their piece. I’m just throwing out a point of view. Like it don’t like it, that’s up to the reader.
Kev is right. Cut off their money and the Middle East will settle down along with the price of crude oil.
that’s up to the reader
yes’m.
*smiles*
That’s why so many on this blog are just ’scroll over territory’. If it’s not zero substance, it’s hate and zero substance, or it’s foil hatters spouting hate and zero substance.
Fish,
Help me out here,…..libs enjoy a good debate we like to argue but we can’t stand……
So, liberals:
If Iran gets a Nuke, and Iran then uses that Nuke against Israel, will you liberals take the blame?
This is a serious question.
It is at the very heart of why Obama will NOT get a majority of the Jewish vote, in November.
Joe Lieberman is not the only Jewish leader who is not comfortable with Obama:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57341
franklin,
you can personally blame me that’s annie_moose any other problems in your life pleae feel free to e-mail them to
I dont give sh2T @ AMOOSE.COM. I have to mow the lawn so please wait for your response
Franklin – yes, I can see that there are others besides Lieberman who would deny human rights to Palestinian refugees and who deny the right to exist of a Palestinian homeland.
Franklin
If Iran does NOT have the bomb but we kill thousands of them just for fun will YOU take the blame?
This is a serious question.
It is at the very heart of why McSame will NOT get a majority of the American vote, in November.
“The jersey widows, Steven?”
Yes, the ones that Ann said were enjoying their widowed status, or some offensive nonsense such as that.
Notice how Paul changed the subject from Cheney’s warmongering to Obama?
Iran develops Ballistic missile?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3724048.ece
Right? Wrong? Just another lie? You tell me.
If true, then what? Just curious. Me, I wasn;t for preemptive war against Iraq, not for war against Iran, but what is appropriate response? You tell me. Realistically.
Okay, Cheney’s Halliburton sells nuclear material to Iran so Cheney uses that as a justification for bombing Iran.
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/66/23880
If Iran is such a huge enemy then shouldn’t the executives at Halliburton be prosecuting with aiding terrorists?
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bth
Posted April 14, 2008 at 10:58 am | Permalink
Franklin – yes, I can see that there are others besides Lieberman who would deny human rights to Palestinian refugees and who deny the right to exist of a Palestinian homeland.
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Sure, why not deny the Palestinians a homeland.
None of the other Arab States want the Palestinians in their homeland, they’ve been kicked out of just about all of them.
Ben
How many of those Palestinian “refugees” actually lived in territory now controlled by Israel, prior to becomming “refugees”???
Is it not true that a very, very large number of Palestinian “refugees” are actually Palestinians who were kicked out of Jordan, Syria and Egypt?
Other Arabs do not WANT the Palestinians.
This is why the Palestinians are “refugees”!!!
Reg.
Why doesn’t Israel adopt the one state solution and allow equal rights for arabs? Even the USA in someplaces allows arabs negros women, even homosexuals the right to vote.
No Franklin – the ones in the camps are the ones we displaced to make room for the Europeans.
As for the Europeans – why didn’t they carve THEIR homeland out of Europe when the European countries kicked them out? Or why didn’t America resettle them here?
“If true, then what? Just curious.”
Well, given the FACT that the US FAVORS an arms race in the Middle East then why should Iran NOT have a deterrent. Iran has been attacked in the recent past by a neighbor. On the other hand, Iran has not launched an attack against a neighbor.
If Iran disarms (which seems to be what you want) then will the US guarantee their security? Will the US pledge to not sponsor an attack again? Will the US pladge itself to not attack Iran again?
You Israel haters do not know what you are talking about.
Arab CITIZENS of Israel make up almost 20% of the Israeli population:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel
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annie_moose
Posted April 14, 2008 at 11:36 am | Permalink
Reg.
Why doesn’t Israel adopt the one state solution and allow equal rights for arabs? Even the USA in someplaces allows arabs negros women, even homosexuals the right to vote.
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I dunno, probably the same reason Arab states don’t allow equal status for minorities or minority religions. You know, those Arab countries that have Sharia law incorporated into their Constitution.
Ask the Israelis – it’s their country. Why they to choose what they do, they do because the majority passed their laws and constitution to make it say.
Can’t always compare models of what the U.S. is, constitutional-wise with what we expect other countries to be.
It just won’t work and doesn’t.
This is why people are confused about Iraq. There are some very unique laws that are stylized to Iraq that would never work in the U.S.
People trying to compare apples to orange and expecting things to work the way they think they should work the same as the U.S. Constitutional model, need a lesson in World History and government.
bth
Show me where the Palestinians EVER had their own country, would you please?
The fact is, “Palestine” is an area named by the Romans.
The fact is, the “borders” of Palestine have always been determined by its neighbors.
The fact is, Israel is the first nation on Earth that has ever, actively, supported the idea of establishing a true Palestinian “homeland” in Gaza and the West Bank.
It is the other Arab countries who wish to keep the Palestinian conflict going.
With all the oil wealth of the Moslem countries, they would rather give the Palestinian radicals bombs and guns, and pay for suicide bombers, than build hospitals or create real jobs.
The vast majority of Arab CITIZENS of Israel, would rather live in Israel than in any Arab or Moslem controlled country.
There is a reason for this fact.
Reg,
Then why support what we don’t support here?
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annie_moose
Posted April 14, 2008 at 11:49 am | Permalink
Reg,
Then why support what we don’t support here?
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Israelis are our allies.
We don’t have to dictate or even like their form of government.
And I thought the answer was obvious.
Lot of people don’t like the way French or German Constitutions and laws are invoked, but they are our allies. We support them in many ways.
Just too much crying about the Israelis, a small dog surrounded by a pack of wolves, imo.
Franklin, very good points–for getting the hell out of that area and let them do each other in. Just get out and save our own country for a change.
Paul – how about showing why the Europeans who settled there after getting booted out of Europe should rule the area? Although the palestinians had not been independent there were a Palestinian people there for centuries before the European immigrants displaced them.
I know you are in favor of ethnic cleansing there. So, just where should they be deported to when you do your clensing?
Paul – I realize that there are some Arab citizens of Israel. That does not chenge the fact that the majority of Arabs ruled by the Israelis are NOT citizens and have zero rights under Israeli rule.
And by the way Palestinian hater Paul – I am referring to those living in such places as Hebron – a city in the West bank that is ruled by militant Settlers
Remember bth, Paul isn’t happy unless someone is dying.
Good point – as long as it is someone he hates.
he’s willing to torture people he likes.
I do not hate anyone.
Liberals obviously hate America.
“Liberals obviously hate America.”
Bullshit, Rossell.
“I do not hate anyone.”
You sure seem to hate Palestinians. Otherwise why do you resort to calling anyone who supports their legitimate aspirations for freedom as “Israel-haters”?
And as for “Liberals obviously hate America.” – only a REAL America-hater like you would say that. I agree with WSC – bullshit! Go peddle some more insurance scams Rossell.
I do in fact hate YOUR take on America paulie.
And you right along with it.
You are just a little more subtle in your hate.
I call Goodwin’s Law on Rossell with his “Israel-hater” and “America-hater” BS.
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?GodwinsLaw
Godwin’s law is not really about Nazis, as some posters here seem to assume; that just happens to be a particularly common epithet used (or was at one time) in collapsing threads, often regardless of the context. The actual insult could be any slur or imputation that demonizes the target – depending on the forum, the triggers words could be ‘communist’, ‘capitalist’, ‘pedophile’, ‘Suethor’, or anything else meant solely to evoke rage and disgust from the other posters.
The point of the law is that the more protracted and bitter the argument, the more likely it is that someone will resort to name-calling or some other form of ad hominem attack. The corellary is that this usually causes a chain reaction as everyone begins to reply in kind, and any intelligent debate still remaining will get pushed aside by increasingly strident and vicious mudslinging. It may be a symptom of LaynesLaw that this isn’t clearer.
Think of it as the Mutually Assured Destruction principle applied to debate – as long as things remain at least marginally civil, conversation is at least possible, but one low blow will lead to a retaliation and an escalating exchange of insults that once started is nearly impossible to contain and will usually consume the thread and possibly spill in others in the forum as well.
The real lesson to be taken from the law is that it is senseless to continue a stalemated argument between two irreconcilable positions unless you can bring something new to the discussion. When both sides can do nothing but repeat the same positions over and over again, the only solution is to pull away from the fight. -
Why is it in the piture up top that Cheney is snarling like a rabid dog?
His face must be frozen in that expression. If Iran launced a nuke or two at Israel, they could be assured of receiving ten fold in kind. Israel can take care of itself. If we try to push Israel too hard, they are quick to let us know that also.
If true, not good.
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/iran_nuclear_strike/2008/04/14/87887.html?s=sp&promo_code=4948-1
“Strike on Iran near”
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[...] Phillip Brownlee wrote an interesting post today on Cheney back on the warpath on IranHere’s a quick excerptVice President Dick Cheney is busy these days “casting the Iranian leadership as apocalyptic zealots who yearn for a nuclear conflagration,” Dan Froomkin wrote for the Washington Post. Froomkin noted how Cheney’s claims ignore the last … [...]