“If you find faults with our country, make it a better one. If you are disappointed with the mistakes of government, join its ranks and work to correct them,†GOP presidential nominee John McCain challenged Americans Wednesday in a speech at the U.S. Naval Academy, where he graduated. He suggested the military or elective office as ways to serve. “But there are many public causes where your service can make our country a stronger, better one than we inherited. Wherever there is a hungry child, a great cause exists. . . . Wherever there is suffering, a great cause exists.â€
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Does McCain consider stopping the war in Iraq a great cause? Of course he doesn’t. But will we hear his campaign or the RNC declare during the general election that it is unpatriotic to oppose the war? The Republicans have been famous for this kind of tactic. Remember the swift-boating of John Kerry? That was only the most recent example.
Sounds pretty good to me. Go McCain. I don’t want any wimp dems for leaders. Especially the dems candidates now.
Good point kelly. Having run for public office I have seen how a person gets caricatured and labeled. “America-hater” will be a very popular label this year.
Speaking of suffering, perhaps McCain might want to address this:
http://www.kansas.com/205/story/363892.html
BUSH IGNORING THE IRAQI REFUGEE CRISIS
Close to 20% os the Iraqi population have become refugees - about half ‘internal’ and half external.
While I don’t intend to vote for him at this point…I feel like he’s right on. Are we going to be part of the problem or part of the solution?
Everyone can contribute and fight for the things they believe in…it’s our responsibility as good Americans.
Maybe we can’t change the world…but in some way we can all make a difference. I believe in what Mother Theresa said, “You can’t do great things, only small things with great love.”
What a better world this would be if everyone walked the walk instead of just talked the talk.
Yeah, George…the country is sure in better shape after 8 yrs of Dubya’s “leadership”.
LOL, if I oppose Tiahrt… who would vote for me? I am a Republican, OK right there I lost JR’s vote! :>
I am begrudgingly pro-choice…There goes Regular, Hank, Nathan, outlander! I am strong on the second amendment… OH there goes Chas and WS! I am a fiscal conservative and would never put in any earmarks that I do not see the need for…. so much for buying your votes. I am not monetarily based, some much for having my campaign funded by special interest!
some much should be “so much”.
Which reminds me I make mistakes, who could vote for someone that is not perfect?
writerdog - you just might be the sort I could vote for - even with the ‘R’
Thanks Ben.
“Wherever there is a hungry child, a great cause exists. . . . Wherever there is suffering, a great cause exists.”
Uh yeah John we Democrats get it.
Ya NEED to bring this message to your party. They DON’T get it.
They see hungry children and suffering as exploitable resources.
“OH there goes Chas and WS!”
Naw, I am pro-Second Amendment, Dub Dog, so you wouldn’t lose me on that one.
Actually, I would probably cross the aisle and vote for you, but I don’t believe for a minute that you are actually a Republican.
You’re too smart for that.
(No flaming intended ‘Dog)
compassionate conservatism, a million points of light, blah, blah, blah. While the rest of us are volunteering the Republicans will be pumping the air out of our lungs.
“I am a fiscal conservative and would never put in any earmarks that I do not see the need for…”
I was waving the flag for you until I read the above line. Same line used by EVERY politician.
(except maybe Ron Paul, who votes for none)
Actually Dog I’m a bit like you in that I’m begrudgingly pro-choice. It’s a difficult decision to reach and I abhor abortion in most circumstance, especially when it is used for birth control.
I think late-term abortions is criminal activity and should be prosecuted. (only in special circumstances - life of mother) should it ever be done.
I have a lot of moderate Democratic Party issues I agree with and some moderate Republican issues I agree with. A slight bent towards a far right winger, only when it comes to Defense and some fiscal issues, but that’s my background - so is expected.
The Leftist Socialistic Progressives think I’m a reich winger and I think they are Satan’s Children. :D
Sounds to me like the man’s channeling John Kennedy.
Unforunately for him, if we take him up on his challenge, that means voting for someone else in November.
McCain has a lot of challenges. One is for him to stop breaking FEC election laws. The other is being able to release his medical records. The third is being completely wrong about the strength of Maliki. The fourth is realizing that Iran and Al-Quada are enemies. The fifth is having lobbyists on his campaign staff and lying about it. The sixth is McCain’s promotion of outsourcing American jobs like those jobs he moved from Wichita to France. The seventh is anger issues that even have his fellow Republicans questioning his sanity. And so on and so on.
“The Democrats are keen to wipe out the Bush tax cuts, which also lowered the tax on dividend income to 15 percent. Apprently, they believe that’s not something that affects the average Joe.
Really? Last Tuesday, the lead story in The Wall Street Journal reported on older workers forced to delay retirement, not only because of the subprime mortgage crisis, but because of the poor performance of the stock market, which has been supported the last few years by lower taxes on dividends and capital gains.
Union leaders often engage in rhetoric that suggests that large industrial corporations are evil incarnate, even though union pension funds are chock full of shares in large corporations, as well they should be. When business profits, share prices rise — and retirements and college funds held by average people are more secure.
Democrats repeatedly complain about “tax cuts for the wealthy,” as if the Bush tax cuts had squeezed middle-income households more than the rich. Not so: A recent Congressional Budget Office report noted that after 2001, the total effective tax rate paid by the middle fifth of households fell steadily to its lowest level since 1979.
Thanks to the Bush tax cuts, the tax burden has declined for all income groups, but lower income groups experienced more relief in terms of percentage-point reductions than did the wealthiest households.
The effective rate for the top 1 percent has declined by less than one percentage point. For the middle and lowest, it fell by nearly 3.
Meanwhile, the share of the income tax paid by the top 1 percent has grown even as rates have fallen. In 2004, the top tier earned more than 16 percent of the national income, but those families paid nearly 37 percent of the nation’s income-tax bill.
What’s “unfair” about that? Jacking up rates to where they were before the Bush tax cuts, as so many Democrats advocate, would probably also return the share paid by the wealthy to where it was before those tax cuts — while saddling the rest of us with a lackluster economy.
Memo to Sen. Obama: If you want more jobs, encourage more risk-taking. You can’t do that that by jacking up the rates that punish investment and entrepreneurship.”
http://www.kansascity.com/275/story/562903.html
Right! Lets all get down on our knees and pray for enlightenment from McBush.
Sounds sorta like JFK:
Ask not what your country can do for you.
Ask what you can do for your country.
Obama/Clinton have exactly the opposite view.
Ask not what you can do for your country.
Ask what your country can do for you.
Vote for Democrats and we will BUY your votes with more Socialist Welfare programs!
We will continue to divide America - those who work and pay taxes to those who do not work and do not pay taxes.
But the Dems DON’T CARE! Whatever it takes to get POWER, to get ELECTED, they will do.
God Da*m America! (Rev Wright - Obama’s Pastor)
Memo to AmWay - with the monstrous deficits we have been running fiscal disaster is unavoidable - UNLESS we change that. And that will require the same sort of action taken by the Clinton administration immediately after taking office. As I recall your Republics predicted that would immediately throw the country into a depression.
Yup Amway, those evil corporations will be taxed to death by Clinton/Obama.
Goodbye jobs for working people.
Goodbye 401k’s where millions save for retirement.
Hello Socialism - and The Fall of America.
Ben,
Have you thought that Bush and his fellow Republicans are like a teenager than gets a credit card for the first time. They rack up huge amounts of debt then ask for their parents (the Democrats) to bail them out of debt by paying the bill?
Reagan and Bush Sr. rack up a lot of credit card debt and Clinton comes around and raises taxes to pay the bill. Bush comes around and gets more credit card debt and now a Democrat will have to come around to pay his bill. And all throughout this the Republicans will whine and throw a temper tantrum about being forced to take responsibility for their actions.
Doug - and, like the immature kid, they whine when their credit card gets taken away.
“We will continue to divide America.”
Who has been more divisive in the last 100 years of American history than George “19%” Bush?
“Goodbye 401k’s where millions save for retirement.”
My 401K is much more threatened by Bush’s monster deficits than by the Democrat’s efforst to balance the budget.
Ben,
Have you thought that Bush and his fellow Republicans are like a teenager than gets a credit card for the first time.
Doug, I think this cartoon basically sums it up:
http://www.gocomics.com/rallcom/2005/02/10/
Rage - BEAUTIFUL!
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Max
Posted April 6, 2008 at 1:21 pm | Permalink
Yup Amway, those evil corporations will be taxed to death by Clinton/Obama.
Goodbye jobs for working people.
Goodbye 401k’s where millions save for retirement.
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Right, Max, as if that’s not what’s going on right now under Bush. How many jobs lost last week? How many more jobs going overseas? How many home lost due to the layoffs? How many single mothers struggling to raise their children, while at the same time worrying about layoffs or plant closings? How many of America’s finest dying in a Iraq because of oil and Bush? How many layed off people trying to get to job interviews, caused by this recession, who can’t afford even the fuel to get there? How about the Chinese government bailing out Wall street: http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jill_treanor/2007/12/chinese_whispers_2.html
Hows that working out for ya? Gee, isn’t China a communist country? Isn’t that what Viet Nam was all about?
Yep, Max, things are great right now, huh? You all cons got your priorities on straight, don’t you: screw the little people, I got mine.
You are one sad indictment of just what’s wrong with this country. You and your ilk are indeed morally bankrupt when you accept a communist countries money in bailing out American financial institutions, but in your party, money talks; humanity walks.
“Yup Amway, those evil corporations will be taxed to death by Clinton/Obama.
Goodbye jobs for working people.”
Isn’t that what’s happening with all their outsourcing anyway? Maybe they should be taxed heavily everytime they decide to manufacture overseas. Right now there is no incentive to keep jobs in the USA…Bush has always taken care of his busness buddies and friends…the American people have always been somewhere at the bottom of his list.
JM took the words right out of my mouth…a few seconds ahead of me!
With apologies to Samaritan McCain, who all of a sudden seems rapt with the connectedness of things, it might be an idea to ask why some of us are more connected than others.
“Wherever there is hunger and suffering,” he says, “a great cause exists”–unless, of course, you happen to be among the thousands who got the heave from employers this winter.
Back in February, when the cause existed for Democrats to insert a provision to extend unemployment benefits by thirteen weeks, Republicans apparently had some other causes in mind. One thing was clear, however: they wanted no part of unemployment benefits.
The reason, as you might imagine, rolled out on the great scroll of truth, was that extending unemployment creates an incentive for people to remain unemployed, an incentive to behave irresponsibly.
Well, it appears that some of us are more susceptible to these troubling incentives than others. When Bear Stearns threw their rattle out of the crib a couple weeks ago, for instance, and squealed with a warning of collapse, there can be little doubt that the cause existed for good government to heal those sufferers at once.
The light came down from On High, and Bernanke said that it was good.
Had Bear Stearns behaved irresponsibly? Only, my fellow Samaritans, if you consider it irresponsible to willfully partake of the koolaide that brought about visions of real estate prices climbing forever and ever and after.
You’d think that the aforementioned incentive logic would apply: as with the Republican position on unemployment benefits, don’t encourage irresponsible behavior with a government bailout.
I’ll leave it to Samaritan McCain to explain these matters somehow. Perhaps a great cause exists.
Yeah, Bentley, quick translation of McCain: You need to do all these things, because I’ll make sure the government doesn’t!
You are correct, Bentley, $29 billion for Bear Stearns is NECESSARY but extending unemployment benefits is SOCIALISM.
And George WMD Bush was the GREATEST owner of a baseball team in history - why look at that great trade he made to get rid of that slacker, Sammy Sosa.
Yep, the Greatest………………..
Hey WS, how was George to know Sammy was gonna start juicin’ 9 years later?
‘Course, if he was like the other owners, he would have just looked away when Sammy was shooting up and counted his take of the money generated by the power explosion and the home run race.
“Hey WS, how was George to know Sammy was gonna start juicin’ 9 years later?”
Sammy on the juice? Tell me it ain’t so!
“If you find faults with our country, make it a better one. If you are disappointed with the mistakes of government, join its ranks and work to correct them.”
Or you can just marry some rich social-climber with a drug problem and buy eight houses.
“Last Tuesday, the lead story in The Wall Street Journal reported on older workers forced to delay retirement, not only because of the subprime mortgage crisis, but because of the poor performance of the stock market, which has been supported the last few years by lower taxes on dividends and capital gains.”
Well, of course, the f***ing Wall Street Journal would see it that way.
But for the sentient beings that know the WSJ editorial page long ago sold its soul to Satan, the stock market never did better than under Clinton-Gore’s debt and deficit reduction . . .
John McCain . . . the guy who voted against the Martin Luther King holiday eight times in a row.
Oh, yeah, bring it on.
Bring it so f***ing on!
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outlander
Posted April 6, 2008 at 6:11 pm | Permalink
Hey WS, how was George to know Sammy was gonna start juicin’ 9 years later?
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outlander
Posted April 6, 2008 at 6:17 pm | Permalink
‘Course, if he was like the other owners, he would have just looked away when Sammy was shooting up and counted his take of the money generated by the power explosion and the home run race.
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Wow, now bush was a mind reader as well as a baseball team owner. Whudda thunk?
McBush does it again:
“During an appearance on Fox News Sunday, John McCain again repeated the false claim that Muqtada al-Sadr declared the ceasefire in Basra last week and said he thought the Iraqi army was performing well.
“It was al-Sadr that declared the ceasefire, not Maliki,” said McCain. “With respect, I don’t think Sadr would have declared the ceasefire if he thought he was winning. Most times in history, military engagements, the winning side doesn’t declare the ceasefire. The second point is, overall, the Iraqi military performed pretty well. … The military is functioning very effectively.”"
Wrong again, Mc: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_blunders_on_Iraq_again_Confuses_0406.html
How’d ya like this guy feeding your wallet:
“American evangelist John Hagee announced donations of $6 million to Israeli causes on Sunday and said that Israel must remain in control of all of Jerusalem.
Hagee, a Christian Zionist who has been in the spotlight lately for endorsing presidential candidate John McCain and criticizing the Catholic Church, brought hundreds of backers on a solidarity trip to Israel.
Hagee and his group, Christians United for Israel, joined keynote speaker Benjamin Netanyahu, the leader of Israel’s hard-line opposition Likud Party, at a rally in support of Jerusalem remaining united and under Jewish control.
“Turning part or all of Jerusalem over to the Palestinians would be tantamount to turning it over to the Taliban,” Hagee told an audience filled with Americans who waved Israeli flags and cheered.
Palestinians claim the eastern part of the city, captured by Israel in the 1967 Mideast war, as the capital of their future state.
Hagee said his group was giving $6 million to 16 Israeli causes. Recipients include the Magen David Adom rescue service and a conference center in the West Bank Jewish settlement of Ariel.
The fate of Jewish settlements like Ariel is at the heart of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. The support of evangelicals for Israel’s continued control of the West Bank endears them to Israeli hard-liners but troubles more dovish activists.
McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee for president, distanced himself last month from Hagee following an uproar over the San Antonio megachurch leader’s comments on Catholicism.
Hagee has called the Roman Catholic Church “the great whore” and a “false cult system.” He has also suggested that the Catholic church helped shape Adolf Hitler’s anti-Semitism.”
http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/US_evangelist_gives_6_million_to_Is_04062008.html
J M Walker, I’d be more concerned about the hundreds of Muslim “charities” that feed Hamas and Hesbollah under the guise of Palestinian charities.
From JM’s article:
As the blog, Think Progress notes, “it was members of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s government who brokered the ceasefire, to which Sadr agreed. Experts agree that Sadr’s influence was strengthened — rather than diminished — by the Basra battle.”
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So JM, “Raw Story” quotes the blog “Think Progress” who says that McCain is wrong about who ask for the ceasefire.
And that is enough to convince you?
Shakes head sadly…
Frank Rich wrote in today’s New York Times:
“Mr. McCain’s doomed promise of military ‘victory’ in Iraq is akin to Wile E. Coyote’s perpetual pursuit of the Road Runner, with much higher carnage. This isn’t patriotism. As the old saying goes, doing the same thing over and over again and hoping you’ll get a different result is the definition of insanity.”
What’s the matter Bentley, cheerleading for a loss in Iraq?
Did you go to any armchair General school that any of us have heard about? :)
In addition, as General Petraeus prepares to tell Congress this week that he plans to keep 140,000 troops in Iraq through the summer, The New York Times reported today that Pentagon officials are concerned about the mental health of soldiers who would be sent back to the front again and again.
This condition has been developing for some time now.
From the same NYT story about return tours for troops:
“Beyond the Army, members of the Joint Chiefs have also told the president that the continued troop commitment to Iraq means that there is a significant level of risk should another crisis erupt elsewhere in the world. Any mission could be carried out successfully, the chiefs believe, but the operation would be slower, longer and costlier in lives and equipment than if the armed forces were not so strained.”
Regular,
I’m glad to hear you’re enjoying it. Rest assured, you’ll be seeing more of my posts.
“Did you go to any armchair General school that any of us have heard about?”
Is that the best you can do, McCoward?
Really.
The war has no end in sight and all you can do is make some stupid comment about an alleged school for “armchair Generals?”
Seems to me that the “armchair generals” have been correct more often than the real generals.
How much has the war cost so far?
How many lives have been lost or ruined?
When will it end?
Yeah, answer that last question in terms of days, weeks, months or years.
Your choice.
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outlander
Posted April 6, 2008 at 8:21 pm | Permalink
From JM’s article:
As the blog, Think Progress notes, “it was members of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s government who brokered the ceasefire, to which Sadr agreed. Experts agree that Sadr’s influence was strengthened — rather than diminished — by the Basra battle.”
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So JM, “Raw Story” quotes the blog “Think Progress” who says that McCain is wrong about who ask for the ceasefire.
And that is enough to convince you?
Shakes head sadly…
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Just passing in info concerning another right-wing fanatic. Nothing new there, huh, being as the right is populated by so many.
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Regular
Posted April 6, 2008 at 8:15 pm | Permalink
J M Walker, I’d be more concerned about the hundreds of Muslim “charities” that feed Hamas and Hesbollah under the guise of Palestinian charities.
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I am concerned, but one can’t cover em all, now, can one? This guy is a main-stream right-wing whacko, who is bypassing what many are trying to do in a peaceful manner. He is indeed a POS, just like the ones supporting terrorist networks. How’s that grab ya, boy?
So JM, “Raw Story” quotes the blog “Think Progress” who says that McCain is wrong about who ask for the ceasefire.
And that is enough to convince you?
How about the link to McClatchy’s website that Raw Story were clearly referencing as the source of the story?
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/iraq/story/32055.html
Of course, to know that one would actually have to click the relevant link –or least mouseover and read the status bar. That’s too much work, when your only goal is discrediting the story.
Raw Story were? Oh, well, I dun went to collage.. .
And since “Regular” appreciated my earlier Frank Rich post, I’ll add a bit more here.
“Mr. McCain is also fond of portraying Mr. Maliki’s ‘democracy’ in Iraq as an essential bulwark against Iran; his surrogate Lindsey Graham habitually refers to Mr. Sadr’s Mahdi Army as ‘Iranian-backed militias.’ But the political coalition and militia propping up Mr. Maliki are even closer to Iran than the Sadrists. McClatchy Newspapers reported last week that the Maliki-Sadr ceasefire was not only brokered in Iran but by a general whose name is on the Treasury Department’s terrorist list: the commander of the Quds force of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard.
“So this is where this latest defining moment in Iraq leaves us: with victories for Iran and Mr. Sadr, and with Iraqi forces that still can’t stand up (training cost to American taxpayers so far: $22 billion) so we can stand down.”
Roadrunner, if he catches you you’re through. Roadrunner, that guy is after you…
Sing it, Regular.
Yeah, McClatchy papers are well known in Iraq. Why everyday Iraqis pick them up and say, “Allah be praised, McClatchy papers knows more about Iraq than we do! Just look at all those words!”
(chortles)
I saw the two Marine PFC’s that have ‘gone missing’ on the news last night. Are we now at a place where if you go AWOL your picture gets posted on America’s Most Wanted, or a newer version of Military Amber Alert?
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