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		<title>By: Retirement Party Ideas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-338073</link>
		<dc:creator>Retirement Party Ideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Retirement Party Ideas...&lt;/strong&gt;

I have to say, that I could not agree with you in 100%, but it&#039;s just my opinion, which could be wrong....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Retirement Party Ideas&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I have to say, that I could not agree with you in 100%, but it&#8217;s just my opinion, which could be wrong&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333714</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good God! Hadn&#039;t seen the debate when it aired, so I&#039;m listening to it on Youtube. 

It was far worse than I imagined. Absolute &lt;i&gt; obsession &lt;/i&gt; with the trivial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good God! Hadn&#8217;t seen the debate when it aired, so I&#8217;m listening to it on Youtube. </p>
<p>It was far worse than I imagined. Absolute <i> obsession </i> with the trivial.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary_Caruso</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333510</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary_Caruso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I&#039;m not so concerned about the war, the economy, the healthcare crisis, the loss of jobs to outsourcing, and crime as I am about Obama not wearing a flag pin on his lapel! It clearly proves he MUST be an elitist, America hating, terrorist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I&#8217;m not so concerned about the war, the economy, the healthcare crisis, the loss of jobs to outsourcing, and crime as I am about Obama not wearing a flag pin on his lapel! It clearly proves he MUST be an elitist, America hating, terrorist!</p>
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		<title>By: SquarePeg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333105</link>
		<dc:creator>SquarePeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Max is  clinging like crazy to his guns and god, and  still hates  anybody  he  sees as inferior!!  Especially Democrats and Liberals, and maybe black and female candidates for President.

Max - Get rid of that delusionaal kool aid, before you  hurt somebody or something!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Max is  clinging like crazy to his guns and god, and  still hates  anybody  he  sees as inferior!!  Especially Democrats and Liberals, and maybe black and female candidates for President.</p>
<p>Max &#8211; Get rid of that delusionaal kool aid, before you  hurt somebody or something!!</p>
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		<title>By: Political_mama</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333093</link>
		<dc:creator>Political_mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually they&#039;ve talked a long time now about how current laws dont apply to the internet and such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually they&#8217;ve talked a long time now about how current laws dont apply to the internet and such.</p>
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		<title>By: MaxGrobnik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333088</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxGrobnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I have much more power then I should have!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I have much more power then I should have!</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333087</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven,

The fact that you respond to his posts about them being scroll over, proves that they actually are not.

Otherwise, you would simply not post in response to them at all...

And have a good night!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven,</p>
<p>The fact that you respond to his posts about them being scroll over, proves that they actually are not.</p>
<p>Otherwise, you would simply not post in response to them at all&#8230;</p>
<p>And have a good night!</p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333086</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speech is a bit different from firearms.

  But I do not expect cons to understand that.

  They talk with their guns. Likely they talk TO their guns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speech is a bit different from firearms.</p>
<p>  But I do not expect cons to understand that.</p>
<p>  They talk with their guns. Likely they talk TO their guns.</p>
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		<title>By: MaxGrobnik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333085</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxGrobnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scary Nathan, brilliant minds think alike!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scary Nathan, brilliant minds think alike!</p>
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		<title>By: StevenEDavis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333081</link>
		<dc:creator>StevenEDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max is deluded, he posts scroll-over posts, to consider him otherwise is to make him have much more power than he should have...  &lt;b&gt;The man, if he is that, is absolutely NUTS&lt;/b&gt;.  Thank you, good night...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max is deluded, he posts scroll-over posts, to consider him otherwise is to make him have much more power than he should have&#8230;  <b>The man, if he is that, is absolutely NUTS</b>.  Thank you, good night&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MaxGrobnik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333076</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxGrobnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And there was no radio, TV, or Internet either.  Guess the 1st Amendment or any other parts of the Constitution don&#039;t protect modern technology.

There was death by hanging and shooting, and no lectric chairs or injections, etc........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And there was no radio, TV, or Internet either.  Guess the 1st Amendment or any other parts of the Constitution don&#8217;t protect modern technology.</p>
<p>There was death by hanging and shooting, and no lectric chairs or injections, etc&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333075</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Constitution was written before the internet, blogs, TV, telephones...etc...etc...

I suppose free speech only applies to those things which were available at the time the 1st Amendment was written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Constitution was written before the internet, blogs, TV, telephones&#8230;etc&#8230;etc&#8230;</p>
<p>I suppose free speech only applies to those things which were available at the time the 1st Amendment was written.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333074</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A well regulated&quot;

     I read the Constitution &quot;Max&quot;

     And IT was written when there was nothing but muskets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A well regulated&#8221;</p>
<p>     I read the Constitution &#8220;Max&#8221;</p>
<p>     And IT was written when there was nothing but muskets.</p>
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		<title>By: MaxGrobnik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333073</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxGrobnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not so much like a starving dog with a bone, as a Truth Detector going blind reading the Obama/Clinton transcript.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not so much like a starving dog with a bone, as a Truth Detector going blind reading the Obama/Clinton transcript.</p>
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		<title>By: MaxGrobnik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333072</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxGrobnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clark, what was your comment the other day about Bush?  Cracked me up, seriously, I laughed my a*8 off!

I need to find time to look for it.  Something about Bush supporters and Iraq - can&#039;t remember now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clark, what was your comment the other day about Bush?  Cracked me up, seriously, I laughed my a*8 off!</p>
<p>I need to find time to look for it.  Something about Bush supporters and Iraq &#8211; can&#8217;t remember now.</p>
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		<title>By: MaxGrobnik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333070</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxGrobnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks KSgrm, but I just posted the words of Obama and Clinton.

In black and white, their words look very ugly indeed.  (Listen to the Libs growl and scratch their claws.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks KSgrm, but I just posted the words of Obama and Clinton.</p>
<p>In black and white, their words look very ugly indeed.  (Listen to the Libs growl and scratch their claws.)</p>
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		<title>By: WSClark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333069</link>
		<dc:creator>WSClark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max, did your amphetamines kick in or something? Dang, you&#039;re like starving dog on a soup bone. Give it a rest before you blow a gasket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, did your amphetamines kick in or something? Dang, you&#8217;re like starving dog on a soup bone. Give it a rest before you blow a gasket.</p>
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		<title>By: MaxGrobnik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333068</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxGrobnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asked and answered JR.  We&#039;ve covered the gun registration issue several times.

There is ZERO benefit to gun registration.  Why do you support it?  To make it easier for the Government to confiscate weapons, that&#039;s why you support it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asked and answered JR.  We&#8217;ve covered the gun registration issue several times.</p>
<p>There is ZERO benefit to gun registration.  Why do you support it?  To make it easier for the Government to confiscate weapons, that&#8217;s why you support it.</p>
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		<title>By: MaxGrobnik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333066</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxGrobnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Political_mama
Posted April 17, 2008 at 10:30 pm &#124; Permalink
Hey Max, do you think we could solve the problems of the country instead of posting bs about the candidates?
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Posting BS about the candidates?  I posted THEIR OWN WORDS!   (I cited the transcript source - check it out!)

Man you LIBS get really ticked at reading Obama and Clinton&#039;s own words!  Maybe you should support a different candidate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Political_mama<br />
Posted April 17, 2008 at 10:30 pm | Permalink<br />
Hey Max, do you think we could solve the problems of the country instead of posting bs about the candidates?<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Posting BS about the candidates?  I posted THEIR OWN WORDS!   (I cited the transcript source &#8211; check it out!)</p>
<p>Man you LIBS get really ticked at reading Obama and Clinton&#8217;s own words!  Maybe you should support a different candidate!</p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333064</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you opposed to registration there &quot;Max&quot;?

    Own some stolen weapons do you?

    Maybe you in your zeal violated the Assault weapons ban and you know it is coming back.

    Use your damn gun on your boss and grow a pair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you opposed to registration there &#8220;Max&#8221;?</p>
<p>    Own some stolen weapons do you?</p>
<p>    Maybe you in your zeal violated the Assault weapons ban and you know it is coming back.</p>
<p>    Use your damn gun on your boss and grow a pair.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333063</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Oh well that is their candidate and we have our own.&quot;

    grmie means old John.

    I should do a bonedig. Go back and find the love for old John before the right got stuck with him.

    Yo cons?

    You folks are all about consequences and personal responsibility.

    Well it&#039;s coming through the door, the windows, and down the chimney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oh well that is their candidate and we have our own.&#8221;</p>
<p>    grmie means old John.</p>
<p>    I should do a bonedig. Go back and find the love for old John before the right got stuck with him.</p>
<p>    Yo cons?</p>
<p>    You folks are all about consequences and personal responsibility.</p>
<p>    Well it&#8217;s coming through the door, the windows, and down the chimney.</p>
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		<title>By: MaxGrobnik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333062</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxGrobnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What followed Gibson&#039;s questions was an entire series of LIES from both Obama and Clinton:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/the_pennsylvania_democratic_de.html

MR. GIBSON: Back to the Philadelphia Debate, the Democratic Debate, just less than a week now before the Pennsylvania primary.

And I would be remiss tonight if I didn&#039;t take note of the fact that today is the one-year anniversary of Virginia Tech. And I think it&#039;s fair to say that probably every American during this day, at one point or another, said a small prayer for the great people at that university and for those who died.

It also, I suspect, makes this an appropriate time to talk about guns. And it has not been talked about much in this campaign and it&#039;s an important issue in the state of Pennsylvania.

Both of you, in the past, have supported strong gun control measures. But now when I listen to you on the campaign, I hear you emphasizing that you believe in an individual&#039;s right to bear arms.

Both of you were strong advocates for licensing of guns. Both of you were strong advocates for the registration of guns.

Why don&#039;t you emphasize that now, Senator Clinton?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What followed Gibson&#8217;s questions was an entire series of LIES from both Obama and Clinton:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/the_pennsylvania_democratic_de.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/the_pennsylvania_democratic_de.html</a></p>
<p>MR. GIBSON: Back to the Philadelphia Debate, the Democratic Debate, just less than a week now before the Pennsylvania primary.</p>
<p>And I would be remiss tonight if I didn&#8217;t take note of the fact that today is the one-year anniversary of Virginia Tech. And I think it&#8217;s fair to say that probably every American during this day, at one point or another, said a small prayer for the great people at that university and for those who died.</p>
<p>It also, I suspect, makes this an appropriate time to talk about guns. And it has not been talked about much in this campaign and it&#8217;s an important issue in the state of Pennsylvania.</p>
<p>Both of you, in the past, have supported strong gun control measures. But now when I listen to you on the campaign, I hear you emphasizing that you believe in an individual&#8217;s right to bear arms.</p>
<p>Both of you were strong advocates for licensing of guns. Both of you were strong advocates for the registration of guns.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you emphasize that now, Senator Clinton?</p>
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		<title>By: ksgrm</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333061</link>
		<dc:creator>ksgrm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max good post. But as Pmom says you have to watch those right wing types because they will lie to you. Oh but Obama is a left wing type and he is having trouble keeping his answers straight. Oh well that is their candidate and we have our own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max good post. But as Pmom says you have to watch those right wing types because they will lie to you. Oh but Obama is a left wing type and he is having trouble keeping his answers straight. Oh well that is their candidate and we have our own.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueJay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333057</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should be brown nose suck up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should be brown nose suck up.</p>
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		<title>By: MaxGrobnik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2008/04/abc-news-was-loser-at-debate/#comment-333055</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxGrobnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama lies about raising taxes:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/the_pennsylvania_democratic_de.html

SENATOR OBAMA: Well, Charlie, I just have to respond real quickly to Senator Clinton&#039;s last comment. What I have proposed is that we raise the cap on the payroll tax, because right now millionaires and billionaires don&#039;t have to pay beyond $97,000 a year.

That&#039;s where it&#039;s kept. Now most firefighters, most teachers, you know, they&#039;re not making over $100,000 a year. In fact, only 6 percent of the population does. And I&#039;ve also said that I&#039;d be willing to look at exempting people who are making slightly above that.

But understand the alternative is that because we&#039;re going to have fewer workers to more retirees, if we don&#039;t do anything on Social Security, then those benefits will effectively be cut, because we&#039;ll be running out of money.

MR. GIBSON: But Senator, that&#039;s a tax. That&#039;s a tax on people under $250,000.

SENATOR OBAMA: Well, no, look, let me -- let me finish my point here, Charlie. Senator Clinton just said she certainly wouldn&#039;t do this; this was a bad idea. In Iowa she, when she was outside of camera range, said to an individual there she&#039;d certainly consider the idea. And then that was recorded, and she apparently wasn&#039;t aware that it was being recorded.

So this is an option that I would strongly consider, because the alternatives, like raising the retirement age, or cutting benefits, or raising the payroll tax on everybody, including people who make less than $97,000 a year --

MR. GIBSON: But there&#039;s a heck of a lot of --

SENATOR OBAMA: -- those are not good policy options.

MR. GIBSON: Those are a heck of a lot of people between $97,000 and $200(,000) and $250,000. If you raise the payroll taxes, that&#039;s going to raise taxes on them.

SENATOR OBAMA: And that&#039;s -- and that&#039;s -- and that&#039;s why I&#039;ve said, Charlie, that I would look at potentially exempting those who are in between.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama lies about raising taxes:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/the_pennsylvania_democratic_de.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/the_pennsylvania_democratic_de.html</a></p>
<p>SENATOR OBAMA: Well, Charlie, I just have to respond real quickly to Senator Clinton&#8217;s last comment. What I have proposed is that we raise the cap on the payroll tax, because right now millionaires and billionaires don&#8217;t have to pay beyond $97,000 a year.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s where it&#8217;s kept. Now most firefighters, most teachers, you know, they&#8217;re not making over $100,000 a year. In fact, only 6 percent of the population does. And I&#8217;ve also said that I&#8217;d be willing to look at exempting people who are making slightly above that.</p>
<p>But understand the alternative is that because we&#8217;re going to have fewer workers to more retirees, if we don&#8217;t do anything on Social Security, then those benefits will effectively be cut, because we&#8217;ll be running out of money.</p>
<p>MR. GIBSON: But Senator, that&#8217;s a tax. That&#8217;s a tax on people under $250,000.</p>
<p>SENATOR OBAMA: Well, no, look, let me &#8212; let me finish my point here, Charlie. Senator Clinton just said she certainly wouldn&#8217;t do this; this was a bad idea. In Iowa she, when she was outside of camera range, said to an individual there she&#8217;d certainly consider the idea. And then that was recorded, and she apparently wasn&#8217;t aware that it was being recorded.</p>
<p>So this is an option that I would strongly consider, because the alternatives, like raising the retirement age, or cutting benefits, or raising the payroll tax on everybody, including people who make less than $97,000 a year &#8211;</p>
<p>MR. GIBSON: But there&#8217;s a heck of a lot of &#8211;</p>
<p>SENATOR OBAMA: &#8212; those are not good policy options.</p>
<p>MR. GIBSON: Those are a heck of a lot of people between $97,000 and $200(,000) and $250,000. If you raise the payroll taxes, that&#8217;s going to raise taxes on them.</p>
<p>SENATOR OBAMA: And that&#8217;s &#8212; and that&#8217;s &#8212; and that&#8217;s why I&#8217;ve said, Charlie, that I would look at potentially exempting those who are in between.</p>
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