Hillary Clinton, fresh off her March 4 wins in Texas and Ohio, suggested that the epic nomination fight might be leading to a shared ticket with Barack Obama. Of course, she said, she would be at the top of the ticket.
Is that still an option — a shared “dream ticket� It seems unlikely. Given the bad feelings between the candidates and Obama’s insurmountable delegate lead, he’s not likely to accept a No. 2 spot. Nor is he likely to want her on the ticket as his No. 2.
Still, if Clinton continues to do well, party leaders might see a shotgun marriage as the only way to repair campaign rifts and unify the party against John McCain.
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What’s Mcbush’s dream ticket?
I still fear it would combine the weaknesses instead of the strengths. I would look to either of them to choose a governor.
As for McCain - Huckabee.
Obama says much about working together etc.
Here is a chance to put it into practice. The experience in the #2 spot will be good for him.
It would be the wise thing to do, but doubt it would happen.
Although, Clinton picked up Gore and Gore pretty much railed on Clinton during the nomination process. :D
Hillary bringing up the prospect of Barack as her running mate is simply shrewd politics.
After losing 14 primaries, she assumed the role of frontrunner and condescends to the guy who still has more convention delegates.
Not a bad tactic, actually. Perhaps she thinks she can win over fence-straddlers who think they can get two for the price of one… and solve that “experience” question (which, is nothing more than another piece of political rhetoric. But the “experience” discussion is for another thread).
But it’s also a nostalgia argument. In 1960 the Kennedy/Johnson ticket was a tortured compromise. It never worked out the way either side hoped it would and — if you know a lot of the unreported stories about the Democratic Party in the 1960s — probably lit the fuse for what happened in Chicago in 1968.
If Hillary wins the nomination, her best choice for Vice-President is General Wesley Clark. (In fact, I suspect Clark’s recent low-profile is precisely designed for him becoming the Vice-Presidential candidate. That’s for another thread, too.)
“The experience in the #2 spot will be good for him.”
That won’t happen. Obama is NOT going to be offered, nor would he accept, a VP nomination.
Ah, General Wesley Clark - he had a nick name when I was in the military.
He was known as General Mayhem and his aide was Major Disaster.
Not a good choice for a leadership positions.
Why would Hillary pick a VP who she has said is not ready to take the 3AM phone call?
Why would Barak pick a VP who has said that about him?
Keep it up, Libs. This will be the election That Should Have Been. But, you blew it! You blew it!
Historically, Presidents and VPs have rarely liked each other, VPs are usually picked to balance the ticket either geography, or ideologically, or experience.
There will not be a “dream ticket.” Moreover, Randy gives “party leaders” more influence than they have. The “party leaders” have don’t have any way at all to force such a marriage.
Now Randy,
We KNOW you are having a Barack attack today.
“Of course, she said, she would be at the top of the ticket.”
You took a little license there. What she SAID was that it would appear that the voters of Ohio would prefer she be at the top of the ticket.
And that would indeed seem to be the case.
Obama could have won this thing outright. If only he hadn’t made those glowing remarks about Ronald Reagan and Republicans. Now? He needs to do what is best for the Democratic party. He needs to take the VP slot so the party can unify.
“GMC70″ posits –
[Democratic] “party leaders” have don’t have any way at all to force such a marriage.
They HAVEN’T DO?!
Wow, thanks to “GMC70’s” expert opinion, we all know the inner workings of the Democratic Party!
It’s really interesting watching Cons pontificate about the inner workings of the Democratic Party.
But, I guess, they’re in familiar territory: talking about stuff they know nothing about.
We’ve all seen the Cons imagining what will happen with Super Delegates and the caucus v. primary results. Hell, I’m a pretty active Democrat and I don’t know all the details. Ah, but “GMC70″ and “Econ101″ and “Hank Price” and “ksgrm” and “Regular (et al” *know!* what’s happening among Democrats!
Golly! When have the RepubliCons ever gotten it wrong?
An old saying MonkeyHawk:
Shake the hand of your enemy to get him close to you. Embrace his culture and read his writings to understand his mind. Eat his food and drink his wine to know what satisfies him.
This still works. :)
“He needs to take the VP slot so the party can unify.”
He has an unsurmountable lead of Hillary. Why would he take a step back and accept a VP nomination? The best Clinton can hope for is a brokered convention. To maintain his lead, all Barack has to do is stay close - Hillary needs to win HUGE to overtake Obama and that is not possible without winner-take-all primaries.
If anyone should take a step back, it would be Hillary.
“Wow, thanks to ‘GMC70’s’ expert opinion, we all know the inner workings of the Democratic Party!”
Welcome to the party MonkeyHawk. Guess you haven’t noticed the stunning arrogance of our prosecutor friend. He knows everything there is about running a business, dislikes government — but, as near as I can determine, during his professional life, he has only worked for the government. Odd, don’t you think? But, it is all just opinion, okay?
Fleet,
If we Democrats aren’t scrapping, we aren’t happy. We proudly say we don’t belong to any organized political party, we’re Democrats.
But once the feudin’ is done, we stick together at the ballot box, missing teeth, messed up hair and all. Kinda like family. You have to clear the air once in a while.
Despite what you and the rest of the right wants desperately to believe, we haven’t blown it, we’re just finding who wants the job the most.
dennis: Make it right in your own mind.
Stick together at the ballot box? Nader in 2000.
Tennessee in 2004.
Clinton’s tax return and so much other baggage. Obama’s Rezco.
The upcoming democrat convention will something for the ages. Great theatre but it will hurt you.
Good for the right thinkers.
Hillary “deigning” to run with Obama is why she’s behind and can’t win — arrogance.
Obama should announce he’s running with Edwards.
That would kick some Clinton ass . . .
BTW, if you spitt-and-polish types called a superior officer “General Mayhem,” what did you call Colin Powell?
“General Lying Ass-Kiss”?
Well, I for one think the “dream ticket” is still possible, and it would be smart. With both of them on the same ticket, they would definitely beat McCain. Not only that, but I think they would complement each other well. Obama can be the peacemaker, and Clinton could be the enforcer.
THIS JUST IN–OBAMA WINS TEJAS
http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#TX
After the caucuses are sorted out, Obama wins popular vote, and he nets FOUR more delegates than the Queen of Mean.
Was it just me or did Obama seem to have a bit of a snit yesterday evening?
It was the first time I’ve seen him do anything but smile.
And you should HEAR his supporters calling talk radio today!
“You conspired with Clinton to be Barack!”
It is clear that alot of these folks are new to politics. Barack himself seems to have become flustered at the idea that the nomination won’t just get handed to him.
And this political season is still very young. I think he should seriously consider being the junior partner to Senator Clinton. If anybody can teach him the reality of politics she can. And I think she’s ok with it. We’ll see I guess which is bigger in Barack. His ego or his compromise.
That would be “beat Barack”
If Obama gets the nod for President, and Shillary the V.P. position, it would sure be an administration situation of ‘the tail wagging the dog’.
It would be hilarious to watch except for the potential damage to the country by having those two bone heads competing for who gets their way.
I really want Hillary in the number one spot, and Obama in the VP spot. I think they can kiss and make up just like all the others do after a primary. To think that this is unusual, no.
Then Obama can turn around in 8 years and take the presidency.
I do think it’s odd that Obama won the caucus, but it’s still far fewer than Hillary got out of the deal.
The “dream team’ is that talk of the networks news today. It’s possible.
I really don’t know what capn is so upset about. He knew all along Hillary was meant to be the candidate and Obama was to be her running mate.
8 years?
I thought we still elect our president every Four years.
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Posted March 5, 2008 at 4:29 pm | Permalink
BTW, if you spitt-and-polish types called a superior officer “General Mayhem,” what did you call Colin Powell?
“General Lying Ass-Kiss”?
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Don’t want to repeat that on this Blog. :)
If McCain chose Powell as a running mate, I’d be scared. I don’t think Powell would do it.
“I think he should seriously consider being the junior partner to Senator Clinton.”
Why, because he is so far behind in delegates?
No, wait! He is LEADING in the delegate count with an unsurmountable lead.
Why would he even consider deferring to Clinton at this point?
unsurmountable? Neither of them are going to have a very clear win. They’re close enough that the superdelegates can choose whoever they want. And you KNOW full well if Fla and Mich were in it, she’d be in the lead.
“And you KNOW full well if Fla and Mich were in it, she’d be in the lead.”
Obama wasn’t even on the ballot in Michigan, and BOTH agreed before the fact with the DNC that the primary votes in those Florida and Michigan would NOT count.
Ya’ can’t change the rules after the game is over.
A good column about Hillary’s chances……….
http://www.newsweek.com/id/119010
Hillary’s New Math Problem
Tuesday’s big wins? The delegate calculus just got worse.
Basically, it boils down to this - even IF she cleans up during the next several primaries, she CANNOT win - either in delegate count or popular votes.
neither can obama
“neither can obama”
True, but at the very worst, Obama will have the lead in popular vote and pledged delegates.
Then comes the issue of super delegates……….
I think Hillary will pull it off, she’ll win the votes and take the nomination.
“I think Hillary will pull it off, she’ll win the votes and take the nomination.”
Not likely, but I WILL support her if she should get the nomination. The math is against her, even under best case scenarios, but whatever………..
By the way, Bill said that she could NOT win the nomination if she didn’t win BOTH Ohio and T*xas.
She only won Ohio.
Barring any major development, neither of them will have the delegates to take the nomination.
And among the states he has won, few are likely to go blue in November. And we have the fact that Republicans have been voting for him to throw our process.
Obama is younger and less experienced. Too, his loyalty to the party is suspect because of things he himself said. More? He has some pretty seedy friends.
AND I think the steam is going outta his train.
I think he should take the running mate slot and be glad for it.
No she won Texas too. The part of it that wasn’t polluted by Republican turnout anyway.
“He has some pretty seedy friends.”
And Bill and Hillary do NOT?
“No she won Texas too.”
That is news to the folks in Texas.
“I think he should take the running mate slot and be glad for it.”
I think that Hillary should PRAY that Obama would even consider her as a POSSIBLE running mate.
Barack will NEVER accept a VP slot with Hillary after all her false charges, race baiting, Muslim accusations and innuendo.
Obama has the lead and it is virtually mathematically impossible for her to catch up.
If that were the case with Obama, the Hillaryites would be screaming for him to drop out - so why isn’t the inverse true?
Why would Republicans turn out to vote for Obama when the only Democrat shown by the polls as LOSING to McCain is Hillary Clinton?
Logic would tell you that if Republicans wanted to poison the Democratic well, they would vote for Hillary, the only BEATABLE Democratic candidate.
Because WS, Hillary Clinton has not asked us to turn our backs on our friends to work with our enemies.
Obama has.
Hillary Clinton wants health care for all.
Obama has called parents who cannot afford health care for their children irresponsible.
I could go on.
Most importantly, last night when he SHOULD have been conciliatory, he was petulant.
My record posting here is clear. I never like the whole dynasty thing with Hillary. But no one made Barack Obama reach out to the enemy. If he had not done that, he MIGHT have won the nomination outright.
That’s a function of political inexperience.
This is the most important election of our time. Maybe the most important election we will ever know.
I am sorry. But “hope” and “change” sound like “hype” and “compromise” to me. I cannot trust Obama unless a more known candidate is guiding him.
It is telling in this contest that the real king makers are holding out.
Al Gore has not endorsed. Neither has Edwards.
This is wise. They WANT to see the process played out.
“But no one made Barack Obama reach out to the enemy”
What enemy - fellow Americans?
Damn, what an SOB.
“Hillary Clinton wants health care for all.”
And if you don’t get it, she will garnishee your wages.
“Most importantly, last night when he SHOULD have been conciliatory, he was petulant.”
Yeah, like Hillary has EVER been conciliatory in her life.
“I cannot trust Obama unless a more known candidate is guiding him.”
Sorry, Bill is not running this time - who does Hillary have?
Four years in the Senate v. seven years?
That’s how we are supposed to make a decision on a new president?
That’s sounds like a John S. McCain campaign slogan.
After all, he has more time in the Senate than Barack and Hillary combined.
“Al Gore has not endorsed. Neither has Edwards.”
Two losers of national elections - says a lot.
Is that all you have WS?
Gore won by the way.
Obama is endorsed by KERRY!
And Kerry managed to lose to the worst President in history.
I do not know the reason for your Obamania. Certainly you have found no love or reaching out from the right here.
Hey I’m all for lost causes. But this? This is too important.
Obama can only win with the base behind him.
And we are seeing that his support does not come from the base.
Looks like either/or would beat McCain, it’ only going to get worse.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/03/05/ST2008030502748.html
“And we are seeing that his support does not come from the base”
No, we are seeing that recent converts like you do not support him.
People like Senator Dodd have supported and endorsed him.
You say that you will defect from the Party and vote for a third party candidate if Obama wins the nomination - hardly a statement from a member of the “base” of the Democratic Party.
“I do not know the reason for your Obamania”
I support Senator Obama because I believe that he is truly a voice of change and a departure from the Clinton/Bush model of partisan politics.
What is your reason for your Hillarymania?
“Is that all you have WS?”
Couldn’t help but notice that you failed to respond to ANY of my points……………….. why is that?
Is the “Chosen One” in Ms. Hillary off limits?
“No, we are seeing that recent converts like you do not support him.”
Recent converts? The last and ONLY Republican I voted for was Reagan.
“You say that you will defect from the Party and vote for a third party candidate if Obama wins the nomination”
Do you read my posts WS? MY trouble with Obama is he wants to work with Republicans. He called them the party of ideas and extolled on Ronald Reagan!
“I support Senator Obama because I believe that he is truly a voice of change and a departure from the Clinton/Bush model of partisan politics.”
I don’t see the right departing from politics as usual. AND as you have pointed out in a most nasty manner, I come from that persuasion of political thinking. And I can tell you that they see negotiation and compromise as surrender.
Hillarymania? Hardly. But talk radio hates her and they defend Obama.
Why is it you are on board with such folks WS?
“He called them the party of ideas and extolled on Ronald Reagan!”
You have been called on this point several times, yet you keep repeating it. Obama said that Reagan “changed the trajectory of American politics.”
True statement - get over it.
“And I can tell you that they see negotiation and compromise as surrender.”
Horseshit. Next question?
“Hillarymania? Hardly. But talk radio hates her and they defend Obama.”
Damn, that is a good reason to vote for someone - the Right Wing talk show idiots hate her…..
And if you can call my support of Barack Obamamania - then I can refer to your support of Clinton as Hillarymania………..
Don’t be a Regular, J R.
WS
You are not willing to be reasonable as to this.
I don’t wish to embarrass you.
You are operating on emotion and not reason.
I don’t think Hilary and Obama will run together, they wouldn’t make a rational move like that.
” I don’t wish to embarrass you….You are operating on emotion and not reason.”
Give it your best shot, J R, and let the chips fall where they may. But answer this question first….
What if all the Obama supporters took your approach and stated (and voted) that they would NOT support the Democratic candidate if that candidate was not of their choosing?
Could Hillary win without the Obama supporters?
Absolutely not.
You may as well give McCain the election now and support four more years of the George W Bush fiasco.
Answer that, J R.
And then tell me that you are a true Democrat.
“You are not willing to be reasonable as to this.”
Because I support Barack Obama and have the capability of doing basic math makes me unreasonable?
Hmmmmmmmmmm……………….. spoken like a true Republican.
Yes I believe that the supporters of Hillary Clinton can beat McCain without the supporters of Obama. I don’t want that.
I have said here that I cannot support Obama UNLESS Hillary or another proven Democrat is on board. And I am not alone in that sentiment.
Is there anyone saying that it is Obama or no sale? I’ve not seen them. Well not among Democrats anyway.
Look WS, Obama wants compromise. And we don’t HAVE to compromise.
We will see how willing Obama is to compromise. He is younger, unvetted, and uncertain as to his party loyalty. HE should demonstrate diplomacy and take the second seat.
I wonder if Hillary Clinton will convince the head of the DNC to break the rules so she can have a chance to steal the nomination from Obama?
I’m sure Obama would just love to be her #2 Man after she steals the nomination from him.
http://www.foxnews.com/urgent_queue/index.html#1ab8dffd,2008-03-05
Washington, DC - Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean issued the following statement on Florida and Michigan:
“We’re glad to hear that the Governors of Michigan and Florida are willing to lend their weight to help resolve this issue. As we’ve said all along, we strongly encourage the Michigan and Florida state parties to follow the rules, so today’s public overtures are good news.
The rules, which were agreed to by the full DNC including representatives from Florida and Michigan over 18 months ago, allow for two options. First, either state can choose to resubmit a plan and run a party process to select delegates to the convention; second, they can wait until this summer and appeal to the Convention Credentials Committee, which determines and resolves any outstanding questions about the seating of delegates. We look forward to receiving their proposals should they decide to submit new delegate selection plans and will review those plans at that time.
The Democratic Nominee will be determined in accordance with party rules, and out of respect for the presidential campaigns and the states that did not violate party rules, we are not going to change the rules in the middle of the game.”
WS your math is corrupted by Republican influence.
There are no Republicans whispering their support for Senator Clinton.
Obama is running on his capacity to pander.
I am honestly astonished that any Democrat embraces this.
“Yes I believe that the supporters of Hillary Clinton can beat McCain without the supporters of Obama.”
The polls show that Hillary cannot beat McCain WITH the Obama supporters - now you are saying that the Democrats don’t need us?
Are you saying that the supporters of Obama should just go away - leave the Party - form a new party? Hillary doesn’t need us so we should just stay home?
Really?
“And we don’t HAVE to compromise.”
Really?
Do you think that the Democrats are going to take super-majority portions of the House and Senate? That is NOT going to happen under the best of circumstances. At the very, very best, the Democrats will control 55% of both Houses of Congress - compromise will be necessary.
Or are just looking for four more years of gridlock at the expense of the country?
For me, my country comes before my Party.
Ahhh, the attempt to battle Howard Dean and make him the scapegoat in order for Clinton to steal the election is already in progress…..
http://www.foxnews.com/urgent_queue/index.html#58b8e029,2008-03-05
Urgent: Mi, FL delegations meet on seating delegates
Per Pergram-Capitol Hill
Democratic House Members from Florida and Michigan held a special meeting tonight in the Capitol to discuss how they can get their primary delegates seated at this summer’s Democratic National Convention.
The DNC decided to penalize the states for holding their primaries too early. Thus, the DNC ruled the Florida and Michgian slates of delegates would not count. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) won both states.
The meeting was called by Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL), the most senior Member of the Florida delegation. He conceded that he did not expect a resolution to be reached in the meeting. He says more meetings are expected. The meeting ran about an hour.
No representatives from the Clinton or Obama camps were present at the meeting. However, Debbie Dingell, wife of Rep. John Dingell (D-MI)who is the most senior Member of the Housewas present. Mrs. Dingell is a member of the DNC.
In particular, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) criticized Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean:
“Unfortunately Howard Dean made the wrong decision,” she said. “We need to undo the damage that was done at the beginning of the process by the Democratic National Committee.
And here is your ally “Max”James WS.
I’ll let you two sort it out. Since you think such folk can be worked with?
“WS your math is corrupted by Republican influence.”
Johnathan Alter is a Republican?
WTF?
And your logic is ass-backwards. If the Republicans wanted to hurt the Democratic Party, they would cross-over and vote for the candidate most likely to LOSE in November.
And that would be Hillary, as poll after poll after poll after poll has shown.
Why can’t you answer simple questions, J R?
Clark is right here. Clinton won TX for sure, and perhaps OH because Rush issued marching orders to go vote for Clinton.
She’s the most likely to inspire turnout of EVERY conservative in November to vote AGAINST her!
They wouldn’t be voting FOR McCain, no one is pretending that. They would turn out to vote against Clinton, and she already has a 50% negative approval rating with several more months of attacks from Obama and the Republicans to get that up to 55% or 60%. The more she shrillspeaks, the more people dislike her.
To know her is to not like her.
I have said that I do not wish to embarrass you WS.
I’ll skip the opportunity.
Please cite for me one, just one Republican that you think can be worked with.
“I have said that I do not wish to embarrass you WS.”
And I have said give it your best shot. Go for it.
Hell JR, you can’t even “work with” your own kind!
James, time for you to come back now. This personality is going to bed.
Are you gonna threaten to make me “spit teeth” JR?
I’ll leave you and your pal “Max”James to discuss “WS”
Here is what I AM going to do “WS”.
I do not know what it is you do here other than embarrass the politics you claim as your own.
And I regard you with no more credibility than I do any of the many unknown nics here.
So much for saving the world…
JR,
What do you think about Hilary trying to get the Florida and Michigan votes after already agreeing to not use them before?
Especially when Obama wasn’t on one of the ballots and they all agreed to not even campaign there.
And THAT ties up “WS” with “Max” to JM.
Good night.
And J R runs off to hide under the covers.
WS Clark,
Starting to see the same trend from JR that the rest of us have?
If you don’t agree with JR, he will threaten to embarass you, call you names, put words in your mouth…
I must admit, it is fun watching him do it to you now WS Clark.
“And I regard you with no more credibility than I do any of the many unknown nics here.”
I post under my real name and have stated my full name many times - William Stephenson Clark.
By the way, what is YOUR real name, J R?
“I must admit, it is fun watching him do it to you now WS Clark.”
Child’s play at best - annoying for the most part.
WS Clark,
I should say, I don’t enjoy him doing what he does, it is rather ironic watching him do it to you.
“I do think it’s odd that Obama won the caucus, but it’s still far fewer than Hillary got out of the deal.”
The simple fact is this–after the caucuses are added in, Obama WON four more delegates in Tejas and WON the popular vote.
Hillary’s NET gain in delegates after Vermont, Rhode Island, Ohio, and Tejas was something like a pitiful 11 delegates.
She has to earn 70 percent of all the delegates from here on out just to take the lead from Obama.
Can’t happen.
Even BJ Bill said that Hillary would have to win both Tejas and Ohio to stay viable. She failed to take both states.
From here on out, she’s just running for ego.
J R–
Where on God’s green earth did you ever hear Obama say that “parents who can’t afford health insurance for their kids are irresponsible.”
The man practically invented SCHIP.
“Please cite for me one, just one Republican that you think can be worked with.”
Chuck Hagel. Olympia Snowe. Gordon Smith. Susan Collins.
Sorry, that was FOUR.
I would add John McCain. That is, of coruse, why most Conservatives don’t like him all that much…
Why he is called the Maverick…
WIth my last goodnight, let me introduce you “Capn” to your new pals “WS”James and Nathan.
You all have yourseveles a nice sorting out.
Looks like us Republicans and Democrats can work together just fine when talking about how absurd you are being JR!
LOL
“J R’s” fanatacism against Obama echoes the purported “Rush Effect” that handed the Texas primary to Hillary. “J R” has become a one-trick pony who will resort to any tactic to beat the dying horse.
And, “J R,” among Republic Party senators who Democrats can work with include Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, of Maine; Lincoln Chafee, of Rhode Island; Arlen Specter, of Pennsylvania, on some issues; even Senator John McCain.
Remember the Gang of 14?
And on that happy note, I am out of here……….
Like swatting flies…
bbbbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
SPLAT!!! Got another JR!
Like I said…
Hey “Capn” your voracity is now also in question.
Well Max, thanks for standing in for me (according to JR)
I was busy on the Global Warming thread so was busy.
(chortles)
I support Obama, and I oppose Clinton.
I don’t oppose the people who support Clinton. They are not my “enemies.”
If you first hate Republicans . . .and then you hate people who don’t hate Republicans as much as you hate Republicans . . . and then you hate the people that don’t support the people who hate Republicans, you’ve got a mighty small group left to work with.
Perfection remains the enemy of the good.
As far as Republicans go, I think nearly ALL of them can be worked with. They just need the direction of a good leader.
Granted, there are a lot of really horrible RepubliCONs that can’t be reasoned with–KKKarl Rove, the entire Bush family, Todd Tiahrt, Jack Abramoff, Jeff Sessions, Norm Coleman, Saxby Chambliss, Dick Cheney, John Bolton, practically the entire Bush Administration . . .
But the majority of Republicans can be brought around with a leader who can get the American people behind him.
That’s ok Regular. Hitting the sack now.
Oh (reaches out holding a flyswatter) here, you’ll need this.
Nathan, Regular, Max–
Shut up.
Thank you.
Monkey, WS, you’re both wrong. Wrong wrong wrong.
You know any compromise is surrender, and dems just keep on surrendering. I am gonna save you by keeping Hillary in this race, you’ve obviously lost your way.
It’s downright wrong to pull Rush into this fight between the dems. Low blow MH.
Not me, going to bed as well.
(hangs swatter on the wall)
Welcome to your new group of friends “Capn”
Count me out.
You oppose Clinton, you’re not a democrat. none of us OPPOSE Obama, but you want to oppose Clinton?
You’re a republican!
Hillary is finally going down, yeee hawwwww!
CapnAmerica,
Sorry. Just calling it like I see it.
You guys don’t tell JR to shut up when he is doing the same crap to us.
So, just pointing out the irony of when he is doing it to you.
J R–
You’re right, I was wrong.
Obama won FIVE more delegates in TX, not four as I said previously.
AUSTIN — Obama Texas State Director Adrian Saenz issued a statement on the projected primary and caucus results that show Senator Obama won more Texas delegates than Senator Clinton.
“By fighting the primary to a near-draw and earning a resounding victory in the caucus, the people of Texas have moved Barack Obama one step closer to claiming the Democratic nomination for president,” said Adrian Saenz. “Texans in both parties and of all ages sent a clear message that the American people are ready for the kind of change that Barack Obama will bring to Washington, DC as our 44th President.”
Because of the close finish, Senator Clinton will likely net only two delegates up-for-grabs in the Texas Primary. Based on a large sample of caucus results in all 31 state senate districts, Senator Obama is projected to post a substantial victory in the Texas caucus and, thereby, net at least seven delegates. This means that Senator Obama will win at least five more pledged delegates from Texas than Senator Clinton.
That can’t be, the primary awarded 2/3rds of all the delegates from Tx.
Barack Obama on wikipedia:
Since announcing his presidential campaign in February 2007, Obama has emphasized ending the Iraq War, increasing energy independence, and providing universal health care as his top three priorities.
. . . .
As a state legislator, Obama gained bipartisan support for legislation reforming ethics and health care laws.[35] He sponsored a law enhancing tax credits for low-income workers, negotiated welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for childcare.
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A provision from the Obama-Hagel bill was passed by Congress in December 2007 as an amendment to the State-Foreign Operations appropriations bill. Obama also sponsored a Senate amendment to the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to provide one year of job protection for family members caring for soldiers with combat-related injuries. After passing both houses of Congress with bipartisan majorities, SCHIP was vetoed by President Bush in early October 2007, a move Obama said “shows a callousness of priorities that is offensive to the ideals we hold as Americans.”
Dude, you can’t mean that.
I’m going to bed now.
Simmer down, we’ll talk later.
Well “monkeyhawk” I was posting here a long time before you.
Does anyone here know you?
Good night.
This is too much!
Now JR is accusing you of giving us his email.
My father and I have never even abused having your email address JR.
Many people have trusted my father with their email address.
On top of that, we have met you several times JR. Had you over to our neighborhood too.
Having your email address shouldn’t be such a concern to you.
JR,
You might as well scratch me off the list, too. I’d like to see a government where both sides work together and actually get something done. If that means Democrats actually working with Republicans, so be it.
My daughter was telling me about a guy posting in a chat room who said that he’d heard that Obama would put some Republicans in his cabinet, if elected. Republicans!! ::gasp:: That’s why if Obama is chosen, the guy is going to vote for McCain.
Guess what? Bill Clinton had a few Republicans in HIS cabinet. I wonder if Hillary might do the same and, if so, what will that guy have to say then? What would YOU have to say?
How a bout McCain Bush, the first husband and wife team for the Republicans
That way, republicans could continue with the destruction of the country, unimpaired, of course, by ethics.
Political_mama
Posted March 5, 2008 at 11:49 pm | Permalink
You oppose Clinton, you’re not a democrat. none of us OPPOSE Obama, but you want to oppose Clinton?
Pmama - JR vehemently OPPOSES Obama, and has stated that if he receives the nomination, he will vote “green”. I don’t know what that means, but I assume it means he will not vote for Obama.
3 dollar gasoline is destroying our economy and jobs along with it.
Hillary and McCain offer more of the same.
Obama will save the day.
Just catching up on this thread.
And I gotta say …… ROFLMAO!! x2!!!
Watching JR’s head explode is rich. If you disagree with JR, well, you’re a made-up nic. It’s a beautiful thing to watch the left (or at leat JR’s tiny little portion of it) explode. And, by golly, have new friends and partners in crime in Capn, WS, MH, let’s see . . . just who else, JR?
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