I pretty much agree with that, with the exception of the offender registry part (in either case). And you’re right: as a public figure who’s made plenty of enemies among the corrupt class, it may well be that the Bush U.S. attorney will deliberately “work up” the charges (Mann Act, etc.), and hang him out to dry (funny, I recall some issue regarding the hiring of those attorneys).

Ultimately, though, I think arresting consenting adults for private sexual conduct is ridiculous, and has no business being enforced by law.

Also, I can say that “Mr. Clean” in fact did a number of admirable things in cleaning up corruption. As for the prostitution crackdowns, well, I guess that comes with the territory–though I wonder, in his zeal, if his fridge ran out of the milk of human kindness.

And let’s not forget that this young woman will still have to face criminal charges, trial, and (probably) incarceration, no matter what other opportunities the media circus creates. Crying all the way to the bank, I suppose, but let’s not forget what bizarre and stressful this type of instant “fame” (”Look! It’s the governor’s hooker!”) it really is.

The man was aggresively prosecuting an illegal activity and grandstanding about it, while at the same time engaging in that same activity himself.

“one law for thee another for me”

The worst kind of public official, one that places himself above all the commoners. And you don’t have a problem with that?

Please. Someone bookmark “boy”s comment for future reference.

“…can you see how it might be read as comparing homosexuality to child rape?”

Perhaps, but only if I squint and twist my head at an odd angle.

The topic was Spitzer’s sexual predilictions. Anybody’s sexual appetites, for that matter. (Between consenting adults, of course, as “ksfarmgrrl” corrected me.)

I may think it odd of Hillary only gets off if Bill wears the BatMan suit and swings on the trapeze, but what’s that got to do with being a Senator or President? Cindy McCain might have fallen for John Sidney the Third after a particularly spicey game of “Warden’s Wife and the Escaped Convict.”

I was in the bar at the Topeka Ramada Inn at a recent Republican Party meeting when one elected official (he was in his cups) bragged that he and his wife had sex every night of the week…between the local news and local sports, during the weather report.

My date said, “Uh… five minutes?”

And the elected official said, “It’s only one woman! How much time does it take?!”

Okay, that’s not perversion by any stretch of the imagination, but it is a bit weird; both doing it that way and bragging about it.

My date contends it’s a window into the elected official’s soul. He’s self-centered, narcissitic, full-of-himself in bed; he’s self-centered, narcissitic, full-of-himself in the Legislature.

My view is, regardless of his sexual habits, the most important facet of his legislative career is that he’s always wrong.

Eliot Spitzer got elected for what he did in office, not for what he did in the bedroom. Spending $80 grand on hookers over the past decade seems really, really strange (Portnoy strange, in fact), but I don’t see how it relates to his abilities as an Attorney General or Governor.

It’s even down to dueling euphemisims. Had Bill Clinton said, “I did not fuc# Monica Lewinsky,” no big deal. And, in the perverse obsession of Kenneth Starr, the ironic reality is that, according to the Special Prosecutor’s definition of terms, Clinton did *not* have “sex” with Monica Lewinsky, but she had sex with him!

It ain’t all about what “is” is, sometimes it’s about what sex is.

As a john, Eliot Spitzer should be charged with whatever the charge is, pay his fine, and maybe be listed on one of those “Sexual Offender” internet databases. So should “Krystin,” whatever her name is.

Final outcome: “Krystin” whatever will get a record deal and Spitzer’s career is over.

Her music didn’t get any better and Spitzer didn’t become any less capable Governor because of what they did that night in the Mayflower Hotel.

For the life of me, I cannot understand how people’s sexual orientation or (most) appetite translates to anything else in the universe.

I undertand and agree with Conventional Wisdom that some guy who rapes 8-year-olds is a despicable person; but does that taint his ability to work geometry problems?

Outch, poor choice of words, MH. Yeah, I got what you meant: (1) Most normal private sexual conduct (gay or straight) should not usually be regarded as the public’s business, and (2) even patently despicable conduct (e.g. child rape) isn’t necessarily relevant to one’s job duties.

I heartily agree with the point you were trying to make. But can you see how it might be read as comparing homosexuality to child rape? Since the homophobic movement routinely equates the two, the negative subtext is always there, even when no such comparison is actually made.

Just a heads-up.

Well, I see the perverts are out again!! Your perversion level is amazing!! You know, SOME folks just dont WANT to watch PORN, Doork…. get it???

I LOVED it.

I heard a rumor that it was where Bill and Monica used to meet.

Ronald Reagan often said “I did not leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left me.”

For floundering and foundering New York Governor Eliot Spitzer — a twist on the Gipper’s words. Spitzer didn’t leave the Democratic Party: the Media just didn’t see the need to mention the fact that Spitzer was — at least until noon Wednesday — one of the most powerful Democrats in the nation.

On Monday afternoon, the Big Three Networks (NBC, ABC and CBS) and the Associated Press led the charge of the wall-to-wall coverage of the breaking news that Spitzer was involved with an interstate prostitution ring. And with near unanimity they failed to mention that Spitzer is a Democrat.” Human Events

I can understand your sentiment. Infidelity is a crushing blow to a marriage. But, it can be overcome if the offending spouse is truly repentent.

I think a hallmark of a strong relationship is the ability to not expect perfection FROM your spouse but to strive to be perfect yourself FOR your spouse. If both parties agree to that policy and stick to it, both will be the happier for it.

Two words. Consenting adults.

THAT is the difference between gay marriage and “some guy” who rapes 8-year-olds.

BIG difference.

Woof.

It really doesnt matter how often I say it, or how often any other Republican says it.

You lefties will keep saying that we are sticking up for Vitter and Craig no matter how often we say otherwise.

That is, on its face, stupid!

Everyone knows that you should avoid sexual contact, of any type, with a subordinate.

Also, the Page was 17 at the time the scandal broke. The relationship had gone on for some time.

It was a very stupid thing for Studds to do.

It’s not the right thinkers who cite websites like the you people’s on this blog.

And, I am all for the resignations of all the ones you have named. We don’t need crap from elected officials.

I’ve a much longer answer, but in the interest of saving time and electrons, won’t post it here.

Sorry if it seems to you that I obsess on your posts. It’s really not that way. Yours are the more intersting posts and I tend to respond to interesting posts.

When you say:

“So.. the marriage vows for staight folks should be amended to say “’till death do you part, or until one of you changes their mind”?

“And it’s GAY people destroying marriage? hehehehhe.”

As if that mattered?

True enough, they may as well have the “honor” of making it official.

Just curious, why don’t common law marriage laws apply to gays and lesbians?

Still haven’t heard from Hank, outlander, Fleet, Heck, Max, Nathan or AmWay on why Spitzer had to go by Vitter and Craig can stay.

I guess Limbaugh hasn’t told them what to think on this issue yet.

Funny. We agree. But the truth is, gay folks experience the devastation of “divorce” all the time. They just dont get the protection or the persecution of the courts.

The pain is still the same.

And Solly we agree on the stupid people part. I dont think the vows should keep you where you dont want to be. But I’m tired of THAT being the stuff that is used against gay folks.

Wait wait wait, OK “In sickness and in health…” So if hubby is humpin the Great Dane, mind you that is pretty sick.