Patriotism or pork-barreling?

tankerkc307.jpgThe Wall Street Journal made light of the fuss over EADS’ contract to build the U.S. Air Force’s tanker fleet in an editorial headlined “Patriot Tanker Games” and disparaged the calls “for ‘patriotism’ in defense procurement.”
The editorial also warned about the consequences to Boeing if Congress starts a trade war with the European Union over the tanker. “What’s really going on is a familiar scrum for federal cash, with politicians from Washington and Kansas using nationalism as cover for their pork-barreling. Todd Tiahrt, a Kansas Republican, has even talked about a ban on companies whose home governments don’t spend 2 percent of GDP on their militaries, which would include most of Europe.”

21 Comments

  1. Pepper
    Posted March 23, 2008 at 7:32 am | Permalink

    Todd Tihart is throwing up the gorilla dust again hoping not to lose his seat in the house.

    The truth is, the Republicans gave away our national security and those valuable jobs to the French.

    Follow the money to McCain.

  2. Ben
    Posted March 23, 2008 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    Tankerless Todd has been running getting pork for his former employer for his entire political career.

  3. Posted March 23, 2008 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Leave it to Tiahrt to think of another stupid idea. That’s what happens when he puts down his rubber stamp and actually tries thinking.

  4. Posted March 23, 2008 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    I would like to know what the percentage of GDP that a country spends has to do with the ability to build an aircraft………………….

    Only from the mind of Tiahrt.

  5. Posted March 23, 2008 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if that means Tiahrt will institute a boycott of the Catholic church since Vatican City doesn’t have a military?

    Of course China’s percentage of GDP on military is 1.7%. So Wal-Mart will have a lot of empty shelves.

    Oh man, Tiahrt a moron.

  6. exile
    Posted March 23, 2008 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    wall street journal owned by murdock who ownes faux news who claim to be pro american.

    so, this is a ploy to convince voters it’s ok to give taxpayer money to france ??

    and… vote for sad ol’ mccain.

  7. Posted March 23, 2008 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    Oh heck, I forgot the Cayman Islands. They don’t have a military either, that’s the responsibility of the UK. The Cayman Islands serves as a tax shelter for numerous American companies, nearly 13,000 business HQs in one 5 story building. Companies like KBR, Service Employees International, Overseas Administrative Services, and other shell companies of Halliburton which provide services in occupied Iraq.

    Before Tiahrt lavished these companies which huge uncontested contracts, now he doesn’t want to do business with them? Hardly.

  8. lindainks55
    Posted March 23, 2008 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    tiahrt has a mind? Wow! Why hasn’t he used it?

  9. writerdog
    Posted March 23, 2008 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    I have received a card telling me that the Congress man will be having a “town hall” here. I will go and see how it goes. The last time I confronted him over the “tax cut” that had me paying in instead of receiving a refund. And as a result I bumped up my withholding to cover the tax cut. This time I need to take a list!

  10. lindainks55
    Posted March 23, 2008 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    Hey dog, share the date, time and place. Maybe a bunch of his constituents not on his mailing list did to be present too. I usually get his mailers. I got the BIG four-color glossy that made me sick to my stomach over the wasted money and wrote him about that. Do you think that got me removed? I am a complainer.

    I also got the notice in yesterday’s mail about the money the gobmit will be sending me. That made me irritated too! Wonder how much of OUR moeny it cost to send out notice they will be sending us some of OUR money this spring / summer??

  11. Posted March 23, 2008 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    Writerdog,
    I got that mailing an hour before the event so I couldn’t go that day. Does he hold these sessions weekly? Kinda low class for him to mail them out at the last minute but that’s standard Tiahrt for you.

  12. writerdog
    Posted March 23, 2008 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    This is only the second time I know of him having them in Augusta. The first time I read it in the local news paper and noted the date and time. This time is March 24th at the Pizza Hut from 12 noon till 1 p.m. though I would suspect he has them all over the 4th district from time to time. I give Congressman Tiahrt credit, he is a good speaker and seems to be able to answer questions in such a way that on the face seem logic. also in a way that you feel he is supportive of what ever opinion you have on an issue. He is intellgent and as I said well spoken. He had a talent for finding the common ground even if it does not make a difference to a major issue.

  13. writerdog
    Posted March 23, 2008 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    An example and a concern for many that attended that evening was illegal immigration. Tiahrt was in agreement that illegal immigration ( and this was back in 2002) was a major concern for our economy and boarder security was also a major concern. The problem? It was about an hour afterwards before I realized that Tiahrt had not actually said anything about solutions, what was the cause or how it effected the economy or the problem with boarder security. You felt good with his answers until you thought about what he had not said!

  14. lindainks55
    Posted March 23, 2008 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    I’ve been called and participated (listened actually) in a phone town hall meeting. I did have a question and got in line (long lines!) but had to hang up before it was my turn. Roberts also has these town hall meetings by phone and I’m called on those too. I am on all their lists as a complainer I’m sure. I call, I wrote, I email, I complain AND I VOTE!

    Thanks, Dog!

  15. Posted March 23, 2008 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Given that Tiahrt supports increasing illegal immigration it’s not surprising that he had no solutions. The proper solution would to be eliminating NAFTA, removing some agriculture subsidies, increasing the strength of unions and cracking down on companies that employ illegal immigrants. Since Tiahrt stands opposed to those ideas he can’t offer solutions. Reagan offered an alternative solution, he provided all the illegal immigrants amnesty but that didn’t go over very well with anyone.

  16. Bentley
    Posted March 23, 2008 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    I finally got around to reading the linked Wall Street Journal editorial. Now, first off, though I disagree with them often, I have to say I’ve long been admirer of the scribes at The Journal’s editorial page. Somehow, they’re just a little more sporting in the biting way in which they go about expressing themselves. That said, the linked installment reminds me of the one from last week, which was written, if memory serves, by The National Review. In both cases, on the surface, you have the editorialists utterly appalled because an American company wants to exercise its option for a fair hearing. What’s the big deal? Hey, if everything is on the up and up, then there’s nothing to have their pants all in a bunch about…right? The recurring theme is that the conservative political writers in this little disagreement are in a big toot to get them to sign–as the Alec Baldwin character says in “Glengarry Glenn Ross”–”on the line which is dotted!” In delivering this sentiment, the aforementioned participants in political discourse have donned the cloak of the sanguine free market guru. You almost get the feeling that if you’re Tiahrt or one of the Democrats from the other involved districts, the bearers of the cloak of free market wisdom would invite you to an evening soiree at the free market rain dance, replete with peace pipe and various other goodies (a complimentary cloak?)if you promise to shut up and tow the line. Heck, if you’d only just go away and drop it, they’d even agree to quit naming you when they dispense with all the guidelines on proper free market comportment. Hey–relax, all right? No one’s actually making a claim that the ballyhooed maverick, none other than John McCain, actually acted in an unethical manner to the extent that his campaign reportedly has an interested lobbyist or two on board. And heaven knows that McCain’s posse of cheerleaders in the media will go to great lengths to give him a pass, no matter what comes out about this. They will either overlook it entirely or brush it off as somehow unimportant to McCain’s presidential aspirations because…well, they’ll think of something. So why worry? Everything is most assuredly on the up and up and, if not, no one’s going to kick up a fuss, anyway. Now go and get your cloak off the rack.

  17. Stuart
    Posted March 24, 2008 at 2:59 am | Permalink

    Doesn’t Boeing (not to mention the other aircraft companies here) do a lot of business in Europe, as well as in other parts of the world besides the U.S.? I think that in seeking a trade war the politicians had better reflect on what they’re asking for. Winning a deal on the tankers now at the expense of future business for Wichita firms overseas may be a costly victory indeed.

  18. writerdog
    Posted March 24, 2008 at 4:18 am | Permalink

    Stuart, you have a point in that Boeing has become so “diversified “ with the deal with mainland China and the like. That crying that North/gumman is not an American company and they still are is like one man walking into the whore house saying to the man walking out of the whore house. “You are a lowlife for visiting a Whore!”.

  19. Bentley
    Posted March 24, 2008 at 6:21 am | Permalink

    Gentlemen:

    If you read yesterday’s front page story in The Eagle, one of the claims contained therein was that McCain, all along, has merely been advocating for an open and fair bidding process that does not exclude anyone. Well, on the front end of that process, Boeing came under scrutiny. It was absolutely of the essence back then to ensure that the sacred process had been sacred. The wisemen, led by McCain, came together in the hall of truth and determined that there was room for improvement. Now all of a sudden, when the victory goes to Airbus, citizens who previously were virtuous and forthright about fairness are either apparently not interested anymore or threatening to throw their rattles out of the crib and start a trade war. What the hell happened to fairness? McCain seems less bothered about it, now that the boyos from across the waterway came away with the golden calf. Yet if the priority is truly to ensure “100 percent full competition,” then let’s ensure it. As I understand it, the participants who were human on the government side when Boeing came under scrutiny are just as human now as they were then. And I would argue that the players at Airbus really do reside down here on planet earth as well. Is the ballyhooed maverick human? Ask Russert. (Actually, don’t ask Russert.)

  20. FairIsFair
    Posted March 24, 2008 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    I’ll say things might be getting close to fair when the European governments allow USA contractors to bid on their military products. Boeing was explicitly shut out of bidding on the French and German tankers when they were in the market to buy. Also, they wouldn’t even consider the C-130 when starting the A400 program. To my knowledge, the Europeans haven’t allowed any American company to bid on military aircraft since Airbus started getting massive subsidies.

  21. Posted March 24, 2008 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    I wonder if the decision to go with Airbus had anything to do with Tiahrt pissing off Rep. Murtha when Tiahrt tried to kill Murth’a pet projects.

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