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“outlander” spews –

“…our government needs the church, because only those humble enough to admit they’re sinners can bring to democracy the tolerance it requires in order to survive.”

And, if the Gipper had been speaking of religion as a guiding moral force, rather than mere evangelical “Christianity,” he might have had a point. But that’s not what he was talking about and that’s not what today’s Cons talk about.

As a matter of black-letter Constitutional law, the United States of America has to operate without the benefit of religious certainty.

Nope. When it comes to governing this nation, people of all religions are welcome and encouraged to participate. But no one’s religion gets dibs.

Play baseball as hard as you can and if you’re religious, use that religion to motivate your approach to the game. But you don’t get 4 strikes just because you’re a, say, Baptist. It’s not “2 strikes and you’re out” simply because you’re a Lutheran. Religion, even if it rules your life, simply doesn’t have a place in the rules of the game.

That’s the United States Constitution.

“If,” as Ben Franklin said, “we can keep it.”

Just off the top of my head…

Aimee Semple McPherson
Lonnie Frisbee
Oral Roberts
Jim & Tammy Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart
Peter Popoff
Mike Warnke
Robert Tilton
Frank Houston
John Paulk
Douglas Goodman
Kent Hovind
Ted Haggard
Paul Barnes
Richard Roberts
Bishop Thomas Wesley Weeks and Juanita Bynum
Bishop Earl Paulk
Phil Driscoll

There are more.

http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=291597352479337

On a lighter note, tonight the Goracle will appear with Leslie Stahl on the left’s greatest propaganda/entertainment show.

I’ll watch it for the in depth, probing questions that she uses to put him on the spot.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CE2DB1539F937A25754C0A963958260

Offered without comment.

Writerdog,

Oh realy? You can’t get to heaven by just being a good person?

Where are all the blog religion police at when you need them!?

What a very judgemental and bashing statement to make against all those people who might just happen to believe that you do get to heaven by just being a good person.

So tell me writerdog, how does one get to heaven if not by simply being a good person?

I have not watched it for some time mainly because it got so sick, “To catch a Predator”.
They got where they were catching the same people over and over. “Stupid is as Stupid does!”, for the record, the article that DOOR KING linked to is not entrapment. Since the stated desire for older men is not directed solely to the defendant. Just because I would ask if anyone knew where I could buy drugs? Does not mean you would have to provide me with them!

What is the deal with having to be a “member” to read so called news stories on the WE. WHen did that start? If they are not charging for the service, what is the reason, to limit debate, and to only keep WE for their whacko MSM liberal slant?

This is a pathetic move.

Later idiots!

LOL Nathan though some beliefs might not have the requirement, as Christians it is the firm belief that there is but one way to the Kingdom of Heaven and that is through Jesus Christ ( Of which you already know). But yes in a sense it does not seem fair, being a good person does not require one to be a Christian.
And there are times it is not easy to be a good person, there are times it goes against human nature itself.
There seems there should be some reward for doing it, but that too refers to human nature. We are all selfish to varying degrees.

But then it does not mean that a good person also has to believes there is a heaven, a Hell or a God.
Those are all a personal choice, its just to be a Christian you have to accept there existence. There is the abbreviated version of the Earth is Hell and once accepting Christ you will go to heaven when you die. But to discuss the differences between even the Christian religious beliefs would take more than a few days here. Christian and nonbelievers alike are all sinners, we are not special among others. It is God that is special, we are just a pile of dirt in the grand scene of things.

Al-Sadr acts real tough on Saturday 3/29:

Shiite Leader Al-Sadr Defies Iraq Gov’t
Saturday, March 29, 2008

By ROBERT H. REID, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD — Anti-American Shiite militia leader Muqtada al-Sadr ordered his followers Saturday to defy government orders to surrender their weapons, as U.S. jets struck Shiite extremists near Basra to bolster a faltering Iraqi offensive against gunmen in the city.

…and in an amazing coincidence, Peg has some interesting comments on the subject of “god”. I think it’s about three posts down from the top.

http://kansasprairie.net/kansasprairieblog/

JR in some respects I like the Mormon concept of Heaven where YOU are who defines what is in heaven and whom is there. If Heaven would be your son being there with you he would be there. No he would not be dead, he will be both places at the same time. Anyone or anything you want or need would be there. Your pet dog when you were 12 and the like. True it sound very idealistic and more wishful thinking. But then how is that different then the life you lead right now. You define what makes you happy or unhappy, you are whom you want to be and if not would change it.

Hey Max, publish you mail address and I’ll send you my i.p.

B52s will take care of the pesky opposition if we can find pilots to fly them. Won’t be a problem, no doubt.

OH KFG I only thought I was hungry till I read that!
Sigh I am having chicken tenders and chips… You are an evil woman KFG a mighty fine cook but evil!
LOL!!! :>

HEE HEE HEEEEEEEEE!

Hank, ya know I lived and worked in Orange, Jefferson, and Hardin Counties in Texas. So… it’s likely your friend and I may both make “golden triangle” sauce.

I met lots of folks there from Wichita and surrounds. They had all been transfered from refineries here to refineries on the Gulf Coast. Refinery row and ship building row pretty much describes the area. Oh yeah, and the lumber industry in Hardin county.

They dont call Lumberton Lumberton for no reason.

Yep, I got my chops cookin’ down there.

Wish you all were here. I’m eatin’ by myself today and rooting for rain. My ‘taters and ‘onions need it.

New chicks arriving next week.

Sorry to digress from the political!

Hey Farm Girl,

T W retired in ‘85 and started on the drilling rigs. I retired in Feb of ‘86 and had a job with him just long enough to get severance pay, oil was $9 a barrel then and drilling wasn’t the career to be in.

T W is a yellow dog democrat but a good sauce transcends politics!

I’m thinking of getting some Khaki Campbells this spring, where did you order your chicks?

I lived in Beaumont from ‘85 to ‘88.

Everyone in Orange county is yellow dog democrat. Or they used to be. I think that has changed since Jack Brooks has been gone :)

A good sauce does transcend politics. Ask Solly about Rudy’s “sause”.

I’m getting cornish cross from Orschlen’s. I dont order them. I wait and pick out the older healthier ones by hand, and let Orschlen’s feed ‘em for a week or two to weed out the weak ones. Heheheheh. It drives the help crazy to have to assist in the catching and boxing, but…

I didnt lose one chicken last year to anything but the hatchet, with apologies to the faint of heart.

And I’m partial to Buff Orpingtons.

Here’s an interesting piece about the barriers to poor folks eating local, fresh produce.

http://www.sustainabletable.org/features/articles/index.html

Hank Price posted March 30, 2008 at 7:56 am

“I’ll watch it for the in depth, probing questions that she uses to put him on the spot.”

Hank Price seems unable to understand that the climate scientists have asked the “probing” questions — and humans are causing global warming.

That scientific consensus is explained in the study spun by Hank Price’s ‘Investor’s Business Daily’ editorial.

Paul M. Kellstedt, Sammy Zahran, Arnold Vedlitz (2008) Personal Efficacy, the Information Environment, and Attitudes Toward Global Warming and Climate Change in the United States
Risk Analysis
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1539-6924.2008.01010.x

IBD’s editorials are not credible.

“ksfarmgrrl” –

I was on the radio in the “Golden Triangle” in ‘79 and ‘80.

Go a few miles east and you’re in Cajun country; like livin’ in a whole different country. I learned that if one Cajun likes you they all like you and if one Cajun hates you, look the hell out.

It’s a long story but there were four times when Weldon Brousard showed up out of nowhere and saved my ass. He was my Cajun guardian angel.

He took me along for a real bayou Mardi Gras. They traveled around various homes along the swamps an collected homemade sausage, crawfish, chickens, rice and brought it to what passed for a town. And while the old ladies cooked the gumbo in a vat, local bands played and I danced with more beautiful young brown-eyed Cajun girs than I could count. (Well, I probably could have counted them if I hadn’t been drinking so much.)

I know Lumberton and had a friend who built his home on a sand bar of Village Creek. He used to say he knew every board in his house by its Christian name. Every spring the place would flood but he built his home on posts and merely stepped outside and rowed a boat to his car parked on a nearby highway.

Beaumont, Port Arthur, Orange, Nederland, Sabine Pass, Vidor… every one of those towns had mom & pop groceries that had their own brand of barbeque, boudin, or sausage for sale. Vidor, Texas was the local headquarters of the Texas Ku Klux Klan. I was eating some pretty fair Cajun food in a place in Vidor when I overheard from the next table, “Just leave it on the sofa. I’ll take it in the house when I get there,” and I knew the sofa was on the front porch.

There was an Italian restaurant, just up the stree from Janis Joplin’s girlhood home in Port Arthur where the little old lady turned her living room into a dining room. *Every* time I ate there she apologized because her sauce “wasn’t quite right tonight.” It was always terrific.

Dunno what’s happened to the “Golden Triangle” since I lived there. But it used to be three graduate credits in Socialogy just for walking outside.

Right on the money, Ben. I am reminded of an Old Testament story I heard a pastor preach on one time. It was about King David, and David’s lady friend, and how David sent her husband to the front lines of battle where he would be killed. And then the prophet, ‘Nathan’ confronts David with his mis-deeds, and asks what he would do to such a man. David, of course, condemns the actions.

The Prophet then looks at King David, and says: “You are that man!”

Good story – Absolute power corrupts absolutely!

O.T. reference to above post: 2 Samuel 12:1-15

That’s sweet of Al Gore, cosmos. The Goracle is getting a little defensive isn’t he? I can understand since he is used to folks accepting MMGW as gospel. Now he is seeing his theories questioned and reacts by trying to disparage critics.

He better get used to it.

Hey Farm Girl,

TSC used to have some, but they just order them now. We my be getting a puppy in a month or so and ducks help them get their little minds wired for herding later in life.

‘85 to ‘88? Hell, we could have been neighbors! I was single then, we could’ve gone out and cruised chicks!

In ‘86 you could have made a good living in Beaumont by hauling U-Haul trailers back from California! I think at last count we’re drilling over 40 wells in Kansas right now, boom or bust, but at $100+ oil it will be booming for a while!

I am actually rather surprised to see that the gun hating Editors have not created a thread about the evil machine guns that we will be allowed to own, according to federal law, which the House just passed.

I’ve just returned from the 13th Avenue Warren Theatre, where I saw “The Other Boleyn Girl”. This film depicted the lives of Anne and Mary Boleyn, who both coupled with none other than Henry VIII – the tyrant who ruled over England in the 16th century.

I once believed that parental indifference was the worst punishment that could be inflicted on a child. I was wrong. Way, way wrong. Having one’s own father and uncle pimp their daughters out to a bloated despot – only to be tossed aside when passion waned – is really, really toe-curling. As I exited the theatre, I was trembling and becoming overwrought.

But it wasn’t because of “The Other Boleyn Girl.”

No – it was a poster for an upcoming event at the Murdoch Theatre on April 18. A film will be shown which depicts the damnable crimes of one Roman Catholic priest. The disgraced pedophile/rapist will be interviewed. I’ve heard excertps of his purported “repentance.” It made my blood curdle.

As an ex-Catholic and someone who experienced sexual abuse as an adolescent (but NOT as a child), I know this film will tear me apart. But the proceeds for this screening will be donated to an organization which helps those who have been abused. I feel I have a moral obligation to see this film.

Then again – there are probably those who should see it more than I. Who are these altruistic souls, one asks? I challenge any member of Opus Dei, a Catholic offshoot to the right of the Pope in their beliefs, to see the film and remain convinced that their Church is beyond reproach.

I challenge William Donohue, the belligerent and bombastic Catholic media whore who, like O.J. before him, believes that speaking very loudly makes him more believable (it doesn’t).

I challenge ANYONE who believes the Pope’s ba–s should be encased in amber to view this film and remain unmoved. (Here’s a hint: The Vatican remained largely unmoved by these tragedies. That’s one reason I’m an ex-Catholic and will remain so.) How young was this errant priest’s youngest victim?

See this film and find out. I can’t bring myself to convey it.

I’m still debating on whether I should attend. The mere sight of that poster nearly did me in. But I just can’t help it. I’m an ultra-sensitive chick; I always WILL be a uber-sensitiva and; except for a five-year period from 1989-1995 which I termed the dead zone, I always HAVE been sensitive.

And anyone who’s NOT sensitive to this sort of catastrophe isn’t fully human, in my view.

Oh boy, racist pigs!

PIG!!

Hey Hank–Did you ever eat at The Boondocks on Jap Road? How about bbq crabs at Sartin’s in Sabine Pass? Duck Gumbo at Carlo’s? Good times.

She has a vivid recollection of saving Private Jessica Lynch which we’ll never get to hear now!

Thanks a lot, nit-picking media!

According to reliable sources, the Blog will soon require Registration to post comments. Perhaps that will signal the end of the Sock Puppets. At least that is the desired intent.

According to reliable sources, the Blog will soon require Registration . . .

Really, Square Peg? Where did you hear that?

Regular of the many nics said it was going to happen in January. Obviously, it didn’t . . .

::, ASK CHAS WHO SUGAR IS. CHAS KNOWS HIM.

To the Troll who posts under the name “Rev Wright.”

Thanks for your stating your demeaning race-baiting and self-identifying as a right-winger.

You prove our points for us, and far better than we could just by saying that “there are people like you.”

What you call “black America,” we call America. What you call “gay America,” we call America. What you call “yankee or southern or hippie or leftist or atheist America,” we just call it America.

Points and laughs at ::/Chas/Das/Sugar as the more he writes, the more he reveals himself to be the same troll poster.

Square Peg is not Chas.

Yes, CapN. Had a chat with a couple of them the other day. They agree that things need to change on this Blog, or there will be some bad consequences. They believe a Registration system will solve much of the problem. But, alas, not all of the problem.

Regular – I am NOT Chas. I do not know Sugar. And that is the end of that tune! Now STFU!! Troll Boy!!

::/Chas/Daz/Sugar,

You had the opportunity to meet me at Denny’s on Harry to prove who you were.

You turned it down. Free meal gone – too bad.

As I stated before, the more ::/Chas/Das/Sugar writes on the blog, the more they “sound” alike.

The style and same phrase usage is unmistakable.

Yeah, Square Peg’s and Chas’s writing style is not even close, but if Reg wants to harass people with his false claims, there’s nothing to stop him.

Thanks for the update, SQPeg. I hope the editors follow up on this soon.

I remember GMC claiming that he would no longer post if he had to register.

No loss there, hehehehe . . .

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That was a really stupid thing for you to post, troll boy. Perhaps it is enough to get you banned from posting your vile filth here.
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(chortles)

What is vile?

You mean the same thing as the Capn, J R and most all of the Libs accusing me of being other posters?

Should they be banned as well? :)

You seem to have a very strange obsession at work in your brain. You should really seek out some kind of help for that problem.

I am Square Peg. I dont have time to meet low life like you. I pay more in Limo fees in a week, than you most likely earn in a month. What reason could I possibly have for wanting to meet you? I can think of nothing that such a meeting would solve. You would merely resume your lying. So, sorry, you strike out there, alleged crippled soldier.

I wonder when James is calling that meetup of all those people in the nics he uses?

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You seem to have a very strange obsession at work in your brain. You should really seek out some kind of help for that problem.

I am Square Peg. I dont have time to meet low life like you. I pay more in Limo fees in a week, than you most likely earn in a month. What reason could I possibly have for wanting to meet you? I can think of nothing that such a meeting would solve. You would merely resume your lying. So, sorry, you strike out there, alleged crippled soldier

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LMAO! Limos…

Folks, this gets better all the time.

Wow! :: even insults like Chas/Das/Sugar calling me an “alleged crippled soldier.”

Guess no matter how much money you claim to have, there is no accounting for good taste and manners.

So, what was your tax filing for the last quarter ::/Chas/Das/Sugar?

You do file by the quarter right? Anyone with mucho dinero does that you know. :)

yeah right 2.5 million dollars, lmao!

Writing styles are so telling.

You know that ::, that claims not to be Chas/Das/Sugar doesn’t use an apostrophe “‘” on his contractions just like Chas/Das/Sugar doesn’t. :)

Regular is a low life scum and a Blog harasser!

STFU Regular! While you still can!

Wright? I dont need your “gods” One of the great things about being an atheist is that you dont have to worry about offending an unseen, imaginary deity.

And what would be your excuse for blogging in Kansas, Reverend? (Ahem) No women friends? No youth groups to hassle for Jayyyzus? Bored?

Ooops — I forgot, I already did send him Email! I sure hope he doesnt get mad at the Eagle for your racist posts earlier about Kansas’ beloved Jayhawks basketball team!

Good night blasphemer (Chas)

May the one true God, Jesus Christ, whom you must have faith in to be saved, bless you.

By the way, Jesus Christ is not the one true God, at least according to I Corinthians 15, where Jesus is placed in submission to GOD. Look it up for yourself, Bible jockey!

If heaven is populated with such as Nathan?

I don’t wanna go.

Chas.
Posted March 30, 2008 at 9:49 pm | Permalink
By the way, Jesus Christ is not the one true God

And that is why you are no Christian.

Nathan, IF Jesus Christ is the one true God, as you say, then WHO is it that Jesus prays to in the Bible?? Does he pray to himself?? And if not, he would not be praying to the one true God, would he?? SO WHAT GOD DOES JESUS PRAY TO?

Let me help you Nathan >>>>

http://anglicansonline.org/basics/nicene.html

http://www.carm.org/creeds/athanasian.htm

Go back to your Cell Max, the hour is late!! LOL

Anglican eh Chas/Sugar/Das/: : ?

Just like CapnAmerica – interesting.

And James continues to be the LYING SCUM that he always is!

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And James continues to be the LYING SCUM that he always is!

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I wouldnt know about Chas or Sugar or Das — My quarterly filing was just under $2.5 Million. Any more questions from the low life scum??

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Regular is a low life scum and a Blog harasser!

STFU Regular! While you still can!

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Oh my : :/Chas/Das/Sugar, Jesus would not approve.

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John 8:56 “Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.”

James DOES have a lot to be ashamed of.

More than is generally known….

You’re right JR — otherwise, James wouldnt be so obsessive about who I am, or in this case, who I am NOT!!

Not to mention that jimmymac could not support his false claim about the New Orleans levees, so he added a false, fictional paragraph to a copy/paste post.

And also stole J M Walker’s nic.

Jesus does not like liars.

What with all of his flaming, he might have started a fire!! LOL

Sort of looks that way, Clark!! Nite now!!

Right you are!!

Yes, Max, bank robbery may be the best kind of socialism! :)

Chas for a man of God your lack of the basic knowledge astounds me. As Nathan said there is one God. This is the the very foundation of the Christian faith.

The doctrine of the Trinity — that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are each equally and eternally the one true God — is admittedly difficult to comprehend, and yet is the very foundation of Christian truth. Although skeptics may ridicule it as a mathematical impossibility, it is nevertheless a basic doctrine of Scripture as well as profoundly realistic in both universal experience and in the scientific understanding of the cosmos.

Both Old and New Testaments teach the Unity and the Trinity of the Godhead. The idea that there is only one God, who created all things, is repeatedly emphasized in such Scriptures as Isaiah 45:18:

“For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; …I am the Lord; and there is none else.”

A New Testament example is James 2:19:

“Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well; the devils also believe, and tremble.”

The three persons of the Godhead are, at the same time, noted in such Scriptures as Isaiah 48:16:

“I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, there am I; and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me.”

The speaker in this verse is obviously God, and yet He says He has been sent both by The Lord God (that is, the Father) and by His Spirit (that is, the Holy Spirit).

The New Testament doctrine of the Trinity is evident in such a verse as John 15:26, where the Lord Jesus said:

“But when the Comforter is come whom I will send unto you from the Father, He shall testify of me.”

Then there is the baptismal formula:

“baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost” (Matthew 28:19).

One name (God) — yet three names!

JESUS — That Jesus, as the only-begotten Son of God, actually claimed to be God, equal with the Father, is clear from numerous Scriptures. For example, He said:

“I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty” (Revelation 1:8).

HOLY SPIRIT — Some cults falsely teach that the Holy Spirit is an impersonal divine influence of some kind, but the Bible teaches that He is a real person, just as are the Father and the Son. Jesus said:

“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak; and he will show you things to come” (John 16:13).

TRI-UNITY — The teaching of the Bible concerning the Trinity might be summarized thus. God is a Tri-unity, with each Person of the Godhead equally and fully and eternally God. Each is necessary, and each is distinct, and yet all are one. The three Persons appear in a logical, causal order. The Father is the unseen, omnipresent Source of all being, revealed in and by the Son, experienced in and by the Holy Spirit. The Son proceeds from the Father, and the Spirit from the Son. With reference to God’s creation, the Father is the Thought behind it, the Son is the Word calling it forth, and the Spirit is the Deed making it a reality.

We “see” God and His great salvation in the Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ, then “experience” their reality by faith, through the indwelling presence of His Holy Spirit.

Though these relationships seem paradoxical, and to some completely impossible, they are profoundly realistic, and their truth is ingrained deep in man’s nature. Thus, men have always sensed first the truth that God must be “out there,” everywhere present and the First Cause of all things, but they have corrupted this intuitive knowledge of the Father into pantheism and ultimately into naturalism.

Similarly, men have always felt the need to “see” God in terms of their own experience and understanding, but this knowledge that God must reveal Himself has been distorted into polytheism and idolatry. Men have thus continually erected “models” of God, sometimes in the form of graven images, sometimes even in the form of philosophical systems purporting to represent ultimate reality.

Finally, men have always known that they should be able to have communion with their Creator and to experience His presence “within.” But this deep intuition of the Holy Spirit has been corrupted into various forms of false mysticism and fanaticism, and even into spiritism and demonism. Thus, the truth of God’s tri-unity is ingrained in man’s very nature, but he has often distorted it and substituted a false god in its place.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-t002.html