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As the CF alludes to on an earlier thread, the story of Cindy McCain (and, more importantly, the so-called “shoot from the hip” style of her husband) is quite interesting:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/10/18/drugs/

No thread on the bankruptcy of Social Security and Medicare?

“Noesen said the discipline ‘critically devastated’ his business as a traveling pharmacist because some pharmacies refused to hire him and he lost his liability insurance, court records said.”

Good.

Immigration bargaining chip?

Business interests are apparently prepared to sacrifice what has been a decades-old icon—the state’s minimum wage law—as a bargaining chip to take the teeth out of a House immigration bill that they fear may get loose in its current form and be adopted by the Senate.

The immigration issue, which has been tense this session as conservative legislators are seeking penalties including loss of licenses and permits to do business in order to drive illegal immigrants out of Kansas, has come down to Thursday’s scheduled House debate on its immigration bill. That bill includes fines and loss of licenses for businesses that hire illegal immigrants.

Giving up Kansas’ minimum wage law—which could be included in a package of amendments to the House immigration bill—may provide lawmakers who are working to de-fang that bill trading fodder to remove some penalty provisions from it. Business interests don’t mind some penalties for accidental hiring of illegal immigrants but don’t want business-closing revocations of applicable state licenses and permits.

Defense of the state’s minimum wage has been a cause celebre among fiscally conservative and pro-business legislators who have for decades maintained that Kansas is an employment-at-will state and nobody has to work for less in wages than they can command in the marketplace.
The state minimum wage at $2.65 an hour applies primarily to small businesses, and most significantly to small food service establishments. An increase to the federal $5.85 an hour minimum wage may affect about 19,000 Kansas workers who are believed to be earning between $2.65 an hour and the federal minimum wage. Practically, though, many businesses pay at least the federal minimum wage just to get employees.

While there’s no affirmative offer to trade the minimum wage for concessions in the immigration bill, business interests are quietly letting it be known that they’re not going to hammer legislators who vote to adopt a popular-to-voters higher minimum wage, probably the federal minimum wage and its annual upward adjustments, as long as that is done by Kansas law, not by just adopting by reference federal minimum wage

An interesting piece of history regarding some gun control regs. in America.

Big Tim Sullivan was a notorious Irish gangster whose mob controlled New York City south of 14th Street around the turn of the 20th century. Throwing in his lot with the likes of Monk Eastman, Paul Kelly and Arnold Rothstein, Sullivan became an expert on that dark nexus where organized crime and politics consummate their unholy alliance, and soon became an influential figure in the corrupt Democratic machine there known as Tammany Hall.

The Sullivan Act was passed into law in New York state in 1911 and remains Big Tim’s primary legacy. It effectively banned most people from owning and, especially, carrying handguns. Under the onerous conditions of the corrupted law, a peaceable citizen of sound mind could apply for a pistol permit, but if any of a number of elected or appointed officials objected to its issuance, he or she could be denied the license. The law remains in effect to this day and has been used as the basis for gun laws in many other states and municipalities.

http://www.niagarafallsreporter.com/column357.html

The War of 1812.

The war where American school children are told the US won, and British school children are told the British won.

The War of 1812.

i can’t even remember when it was fought.
KSAggie, nobody ever wins in war. Spin it any way you want, the best you come out with is, “I didn’t lose as bad as the other guy”

Pmom – This is the kind of thing that gets me all riled up. NO ABORTIONS! NO ABORTIONS! But when a woman is being responsible using birth control, then a pharmacist thinks he can withhold what is rightfully hers. I mean, can a pharmacist not give patients blood pressure medication, or psychatropic medications because it is against his religion? I seriously doubt it, but somehow, our rights as women can be trampled on because of religion. F— that!!

TDT..the answer is simple…don’t go to a pharmacy that won’t dispense birth control. Catholic hospitals won’t perform abortions, either…get over it.
It’s not like there is no access to either one if not everyone chooses to provide it.
Are we going to live in the land of the free or not?

Interesting information on the bond issue

http://wichita259truth.blogspot.com/

Mary, did you even read the article. It wasn’t a Catholic pharmacy, he just happened to be Catholic. He didn’t tell his employer that he was unwilling to dispense birth control. She was able to get the prescription filled AT THE SAME PHARMACY, but with a different pharmacist. Also, the PHARMACIST is the PROFESSIONAL here. Do you tell a patient of a doctor that she should have known that she had an aneurism when the doctor told her it was just migraines. Jeez!!

Sol – Do you have a link? I recall seeing something yesterday, but I don’t remember where.

Here ya go.

WASHINGTON – Trustees for the government’s two biggest benefit programs warned Tuesday that Social Security and Medicare are facing “enormous challenges” with the threat to Medicare’s solvency far more severe.

The trustees, issuing a once-a-year analysis of the government’s two biggest benefit programs, said the resources in the Social Security trust fund will be depleted by 2041. The reserves in the Medicare trust fund that pays hospital benefits were projected to be wiped out by 2019.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080325/ap_on_go_ot/social_…

Sheesh, everyone’s tryin’ to give ya a hand, TDT

Sol,

How many times in the last year did I write about the Social Security and Medicare Fiscal Crisis?

Nobody cares.

Have fun Farmie.

from the above link…

Borrowing from the future

For years, the Social Security program has been taking in more in payroll taxes from existing workers than it needed to fund benefits. The government borrowed that surplus and promised to pay it back with interest by issuing special issue bonds to the program.

But the proceeds from those bonds are finite, which is why the trustees estimate that the trust fund will run dry by 2041. Without that cushion, Social Security would only be able to pay out the money it collects in payroll taxes.

Demographics are a major reason for the funding shortfall. The number of workers, compared to retirees, has begun to shrink. That means the system will produce a smaller surplus, then none at all, and eventually it won’t be able to pay out all benefits promised to future retirees.

Last year, the trustees also estimated that the government would need to start paying back the program in 2017, and that the Social Security trust fund would be exhausted by 2041.

Currently, the first $102,000 of wages are subject to the 12.4% payroll tax that funds Social Security. Typically, half the tax is paid by workers, and the other half is paid by employers.

To keep the system solvent over the next 75 years, the trustees estimated that the Social Security payroll tax rate would need to increase to 14.1%, up from the current 12.4%. Or lawmakers could bring it into balance by cutting benefits by 12%.

Neither is a popular political solution. Lawmakers and presidential candidates from both parties acknowledge that a bipartisan solution is required. But no one’s expecting one this year, with a lame-duck president in the White House and lawmakers focused on elections, to say nothing of an economic downturn.

Nonpartisan experts say the pain of fixing Social Security can be lessened in two ways: Make changes soon so that they affect more people but in a less dramatic manner, and implement a combination of tax increases and benefit reductions so that neither is particularly steep.

One more thing…

Stevie Miller of Sunflower Electric and “boycott Lawrence” fame says the fraction of power to be kept in Kansas from the Holcomb plant is needed for the ETHANOL plants being developed in the desert formerly known as southwest Kansas.

Hehehehhehe.

Wanna see the future for ethanol? (Pssst. It aint pretty)

Check this collection of posts from the GRAIN industry.

http://dtnag.com/dtnag/common/link.do?symbolicName=/ag/blogs/template1&blogHandle=ethanol

Looks like sunflower, governor leadership, her boy mark, and joe harkins all bet on the wrong horse with their love affair with ethanol, irrigation, corn and water wasting.

“Gotta go today. Four hundred pounds of seed potatoes to pick up and plant. And mulch.”

Damn. That is a LOT of potatoes!

The Democrat solution is obvious Sol, just raise taxes.

They will have to raise the taxes by DOUBLE the amounts shown above though, because they will increase taxes on the rich – you know, those who earn more then $30,000/year.

Now it gets a little more complicated when you had in the cost of National Healthcare. Again, the same approach will be to raise the taxes on those earning more then $30,000/year.

So for those earning above $30,000/year:

Social Security Taxes go up from 12.4% (+ 1.7% x 2) to 15.8%.
—That’s a 28% Tax Increase.

Medicare Taxes go up from 2.9% (+ 3.54% x 2) to 9.98%.
—That’s a 244% Tax Increase.

National Health Care Tax will be how much ON TOP OF THE SOCIAL SECURITY/MEDICARE TAX INCREASE?

kfg knows her taters. :)

On that point, my Grandfather was a great believer in planting by the Farmer’s Almanac (moon sign).

According to the Almanac, plant those taters between now and 4 April and they will do well.

From the 12-14 April set out your strawberries, tomatoes and other above ground crops (corn,etc.)

Seem to work for him back when. :)

I’m glad to see he’s having trouble finding a job after he tells them he won’t dispense medications.

As per yesterday’s paper, there appears to be an opening in the cocaine market

On the Medicare and SS issue, it seems there will have to be a multilayer solution. Maybe raise the cap for taking out the taxes to say 5%, to about $107,000, raise the percentage they take out by 1%, and reduce benefits by 5%. I really hate the thought of reduced benefits, but some is better than nothing, right?

In fact, if they would pay back what I have paid in

That would be fine if you were the only one to do that. But SS being a pyramid scam after the 1st 20k people or so did that what would the remaining 280 million people that paid in do?

Either my Dem or I go McCain. (Fox News)

Many Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama supporters are ready to spurn the Democratic party and vote for John McCain in November if their candidate doesn’t win the presidential nomination, according to a new poll out Wednesday.

And a second poll out Wednesday shows most voters — including 85 percent of Democrats — believe there’s a chance that the battle between Clinton and Obama will not be resolved before the August convention.

Among people who identified themselves as Hillary Clinton supporters, 28 percent said they would vote for McCain if Obama is his opponent, the March 7-22 Gallup Poll Daily election tracking survey found.

The same poll found that 19 percent of Obama supporters would switch sides and cast ballots for McCain if Clinton is the Democratic candidate.

The survey interviewed 6,657 Democratic voters nationwide and had a margin of error of 2 percent.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/26/gallup-poll-shows-many-democratic-voters-ready-to-vote-mccain-if-their-first-choice-doesnt-make-it-to-november/

You remember the old adage about no question being dumb? I’m probably about to prove that one wrong. I have a question I don’t even know enough to ask, can’t find the words (due again to that total lack of knowledge) so someone might need to be a mind reader if I’m to find an answer.

There is a state fund that is divvied up to school districts that put up their own money for “certain” expenditures. It’s not a trivial amount! I think Wichita USD 259 got some of this money for the projects funded by the 2000 school bond issue and are hoping to get more of it if they pass another bond issue on May 6th. Ok, my questions:

1. In 2000 we were told the school bond issue would pay for (fill in the blank) and the cost of that would be $284.5 million. There was an oversight committee appointed to make sure our money was spent as promised, etc.

IF the costs were what we approved in bond monies what happened to the amounts the state kicked in??

2. On May 6th we will vote on a $350 million bond issue that is supposed to be the costs of doing (fill in the blanks).

Why is the costs of doing these projects not reduced by the amount the state kicks in??

Linda, as to your questions in general (I know I don’t know all needed to fully answer):

There were additional state funds received (as well as some FEMA funds for the “safe rooms”) in the first bond issue. IIRC, most of those funds were used to buy new desks, lab equipment, etc., to outfit the newly created and remodeled spaces resulting from the bond issue. These funds were in addition to the funds received from the bond issue.

As to your second question, the state funding is 25% of the total bond issue, and is to go for principal and interest, as I understand it. Thus, in a sense, the bond issue is approved for the gross amount; the state picks up 25%, with the local taxpayers (should the bond issue pass) paying the other 75% plus the interest on the same. The district sells the bonds to get the full amount authorized; then, as to repayment, the state funding is used, as I said, for 25%, and the local property tax levies pay the other 75%.

The difference in how this is done between the first and second bond issues is due, again IIRC, to the change in the school finance law after Montoy.

I’m sure there are those more knowledgeable than I that can better explain this.

Here is something from the district web site that attempts to explain the state funding being used to pay 25% of the total bond issue amount (together with interest); the brief explanation is about half-way down the page.

http://www.usd259.com/news/Bond2008/Bond+Issue+Cost/default.htm

There is even a democrat that sees the light…

Democrat Gravel Switches to Libertarian

Gravel, a former Democratic senator from Alaska, said in an e-mail that the Democratic Party “no longer represents my vision for our great country.”

“It is a party that continues to sustain war, the military-industrial complex and imperialism _ all of which I find anathema to my views,” he said in the e-mail in which he also asked supporters for campaign donations.

http://www.newsmax.com/politics/gravel_libertarian/2008/03/26/83145.html

http://pageoneq.com/news/2008/kern_032508.html

Oklahoma House Rep. Sally Kern made an Easter Sunday appearance on KFOR-TV’s “Flash Point” to face off with an openly gay pastor, elaborating on her recent leaked speech and defending her views.

A spirited theological and political debate ensued between Rep. Kern, host Kevin Ogle, panelists Burns Hargis and Mike Turpen, and Dr. Scott Jones of Oklahoma City’s Cathedral of Hope.

“I was speaking to a group of Republicans; grassroots Republicans,” Kern explained of the original speech, which gained worldwide attention after posted on the Internet by the Gay & Lesbian Victory Fund, “and I was talking about the homosexual agenda, and how they are out there putting forth–funding very heavily–homosexual and pro-homosexual candidates to run against, and defeat, conservatives across the nation.

“I did talk about what I believe…scientific evidence, health evidence…proves that the homosexual lifestyle is a dangerous lifestyle. And, yes, I did compare it to being more dangerous than terrorism. And my point in doing that, gentlemen, was this: Everybody knows terrorism destroys and tears down, and that was the only analogy I was making is that the homosexual agenda, this lifestyle which is so destructive to individuals, is at the heart trying to tear down what is the bedrock foundation of our society, which is the family and traditional marriage.”

“You don’t really believe that Scott,” asks panelist Michael Turpen of Pastor Jones, “is more dangerous than Osama bin Laden, do you?”

“I believe that the…homosexual agenda, and the lifestyle that it involves, is deadly to this nation. Now, I was not saying that Scott here is personally as dangerous as Osama bin Laden, but I was just making a comparison to prove my point.”

“Well, I would denounce hate speech of any kind,” rebuts Jones, “and have in my public remarks in response to yours. And you have to understand that when you say that gay people are like cancer…and cancer is something that we eradicate; that we kill; or that we are worse than terrorists, and terrorists are people that we go after to annihilate, to kill, you have to understand why those words would outrage people, because what are you saying? That we should go after gay people and eradicate them or annihilate them?”……..

To continue reading and to watch the video of the debate go to:

http://pageoneq.com/news/2008/kern_032508.html

Again, Linda, as to the current situation; the money received from the state goes to, and cannot be used for any other purpose than, repayment of bond principal and interest. This results, then, in the local taxpayers (yes, property tax payers, together with renters whose rents go up a bit to help the landlord to pay increased taxes) in repaying $262.5 million (plus interest) rather than $350 million (plus interest), the state paying the other $87.5 million (plus interest).

On the facility upgrade money (that’s what I recall it was called) that was received from the state after the first bond issue, it, too, had to be used for certain, limited specific purposes, and accounted for to the state. I recall several discussions in Site Council meetings back then as to what these funds could and could not be used for, and it was remarkable to me what was considered facility upgrade and what was not. I understood that new lab equipment, new desks, etc., were proper subjects for use of such funding, while the wiring for a building wide computer network (to use one example) was not. The general idea, IIRC, was to provide some funding for the furnishing of the extra spaces created with basic needed improvements.

My recollection on the 2000 bond issue and the state funds received as a part thereof is a bit clouded due to the passage of time.

Big Brother will soon be watching you!!

MIAMI (Reuters) – Miami police could soon be the first in the United States to use cutting-edge, spy-in-the-sky technology to beef up their fight against crime.

A small pilotless drone manufactured by Honeywell International, capable of hovering and “staring” using electro-optic or infrared sensors, is expected to make its debut soon in the skies over the Florida Everglades.

If use of the drone wins Federal Aviation Administration approval after tests, the Miami-Dade Police Department will start flying the 14-pound (6.3 kg) drone over urban areas with an eye toward full-fledged employment in crime fighting.

A link to Dave’s story.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUKN1929797920080326

Great news for civil liberties?

No, we should be voting on a $350 million bond issue. Remember the state “pays” 25% of the total amount of the bond issue, thus, if 259 was voting on a $262.5 million bond issue, the state would pay $65.625 million principal (together with interest).

Big Brother will soon be watching you!!

Sol, I don’t like the basic premise of this, but once again, it doesn’t effect me.

Besides, I KNOW what that flashing green dot in the upper left corner of my TV screen is all about!
*ducks*

Of course, Linda and my discussion here is academic only, given the uncertain (well, I don’t think it is all that uncertain) fate of the bond issue, the election for which is May 6.

Yep, fish, that’s also a part of the story. This had to do with the state per pupil funding actually decreasing in nominal dollars, which resulted in cuts to various parts of the local general budget for schools (259 and elsewhere) resulting therefrom. Generally, custodians were cut only after other areas were, but before teachers.

However, the shortfall in maintenance has been an ongoing issue for the 17 years I’ve been involved with the district as a parent and on Site Councils, etc. It is my impression that the mill levy dedicated to maintenance, etc., should be doubled, at least, to raise the needed funding. I’m not sure, but it is my recollection that to do this, there would need to be some kind of election involved.

an ongoing issue for the 17 years

I just figured this way: You don’t have the hands to paint the board, it rots; you don’t have the hand to replace the board, the wall stud rots; no hand to replace the studs, the wall falls down.

Ok, for want of a nail…

“Generally, custodians were cut only after other areas were, but before teachers.”

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This would be a perfect time for some true journalist to look into how many teachers (qualified to teach, paid as teachers) don’t have a thing to do with teaching. No classroom responsibilities, no students to teach…

May I ask about the policies on this Blog (again)? Are other post-ers allowed to hi-jack our monikers? Last night some erudite gent named Chas. asked me if I were a card-carrying member of NARAL. Elsewhere, I’ve seen “Chas.” exuded more liberal-mindedness. Then, another dude scoffed at the idea of forgiveness.

You know, I still haven’t recovered from being in the presence of someone sinless. A bona-fide, stainless-steel, usullied, untainted demi-god! Wow!

As K. Cobain once said, I have a hard time carryin’ on knowin’ there’s saints like that in my atmosphere…..

what type of products are you referring t

not bombs or guns, I assure you. Rather not say, but we occasionally run these parts in small orders, but the last time we had this large of a run was about 3 months before initial ’surge’.

There sure is a more efficient and cost effective way to finance these BOE project as opposed to the “Every 5 Year Catastrophic” approach we seem to be currently confronted with. I realize the BOE budget is not awash with $ to necessarily do this, but I can’t think there isn’t more effective middle ground to strive for. (I’m definitely not knowlegible about this subject)

asked me if I were a card-carrying member of NARAL.

a one horned water living mammal?
(gotta go look up naral and see if it’s an insult)

gster, they make it difficult for anyone to know more than they would like us to “know.” There is some smoke and mirrors. Lots of money involved. I think that extends to our B.O.E. — the part about not knowing that is. Of course this is just my own very cynical opinion. And, I’ve already proved how little I know.

gster, it seems to me (and I’m not all that knowledgeable, either) that given the capital investment the district has in its various buildings, etc., and as costs continue to increase, there needs to be a hard look taken at the mill levy for this type of expenditure. Again, to raise it might take an election, or it might take legislative action, or both, but geez, it would seem that being able to do routine maintenance in a timely fashion would really be better than bond issues every so often.

gster, my understanding on ending busing for integration is that it will not reduce busing or busing costs.

Door King has the super solution for the Social Security crisis; the payments would be made into home equity accounts. You can’t touch them till you’re 70. If you get disabled, gvmt. makes the payments but keeps the principle. Hosana. Problem solved; wealth, employment and a safety net for all.

Linda, the current controversy over the Circle students, if I may use that term, was not a fight chosen by 259 as such. The original driving force behind it was Bel Aire, IIRC, who wanted, for future development sake, to have the students there attend school in one district, rather than being split. 259 (foolishly, IMHO), agreed to take the matter on.

Off the top of my head, West High is under capacity; I believe South is, too. To get students to these places from the Heights attendance area would, forgetting about any boundary redrawing, result IMHO in additional money being spent on busing them. Yes, they (being in High School) might drive themselves, which brings other considerations into play, such as larger parking lots, more traffic congestion, etc.

Linda, sharing stadiums, gyms, pools, would be something that should really be thought about by 259. It would, IMHO, be more economical in the long run than building practice gyms, new gyms, etc., at several sites.

Fish, I can’t remember the exact name of the acronym, but it’s a national abortion rights league.

Gster, The only portion of busing that will change is the integrated part, however that’s a small portion of the busing. Most bussing occurs because of attendance at a school of their choice (magnet etc).

Fish, I can’t remember the exact name of the acronym

Thanky, ma’am.

Thanks Hud, couldn’t remember what the 2nd ‘A’ was for.

“The pastor of a Kansas church whose father is a judge is charged in Missouri with forging a woman’s name to a check for $100,000.

“Randy Baldridge of Carl Junction, Mo., was due in Newton County court for arraignment Wednesday on a felony forgery charge.

“He’s accused of forging Joplin resident Nancy Sarduk’s name without her permission and trying to use the check to secure an investment note from AG Financial Solutions of Springfield.

“A probable-cause affidavit says Baldridge also put Sarduk’s name, address and Social Security number on the investment application form.

“The 53-year-old is pastor of the Sixth Street Baptist Church in Galena and the son of semiretired Jasper County Circuit Judge George Baldridge.”

Oh well, the Baptists have been soaking the flock all along.

Baptists have been soaking the flock all along.

Not my wife’s baptist’s church.

Nor ours either. Like most monkeys, Monkeyhawk likes to throw sh*t on the wall. In his case bigoted sh*t.

Just for fun…………..

“Oldest known human fossil found in Europe – Piece of jawbone unearthed in Spain could be up to 1.3 million years old”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23813443/

“The researchers said the fossil found last year at Atapuerca in northern Spain, along with stone tools and animal bones, is up to 1.3 million years old. That would be 500,000 years older than remains from a 1997 find that prompted the naming of a new species: Homo antecessor, or Pioneer Man, possibly a common ancestor to Neanderthals and modern humans.”

Interesting.

Shedding a bit more light on the “busing” issue, if I may. There are, as has been pointed out above, more components to the busing in Wichita than just for deseg purposes. There is busing to and from magnet schools (if the student lives more than 2.5 miles from the site); there is busing for special ed purposes; and there is busing for deseg. There is also busing to alleviate hazardous conditions for certain buildings/sites where the student lives closer than 2.5 miles, but due to major thoroughfares, etc., the crossing of which presents a hazard to students, buses may be provided.

What should be remembered is that the great majority of the money for transportation comes from “state funding”, to a separate fund, to be used for this purpose and this purpose alone. I believe that Special Ed transportation comes from Special Ed funding, but I’m not 100% sure of that. Anyway, any money saved by busing changes will not result in more money in the general fund for school operations, rather there will be a lesser amount received from the “state funding for transportation”.

MKay, thank you for the link, It seemed to me that the high schools, as a group, were fairly close to full utilization. This, of course, is an “average”, and while Heights may be >100% of population, this could be balanced by West, e.g., being at 90%.

ksagnostic:The Brits think of the war of 1812 as a European war against Napoelon, North America was a side issue for them. Madison felt that the Royal Navy’s interdict on cross Atlantic trade and taking of Royal Navy deserters serving on American ships was an infringemnt of freedom of the seas, declared war and invaded British North America. We think it was an attempt to implement the manifest destiny thing, and he figured the Brits were too busy to do muuch about it. US troops were told that all they would have to do is show the Stars and Stripes and the locals would flock to be free from cruel British domination. Anyway, attempts to invade were repulsed in Quebec, the St.Lawerence River area ,Niagara Falls and from Detroit by the local militia and Indians along with some Brit troops. Then we campaigned in Michigan and Ohio, and were thrown out. There were skirmishes won by both sides and in the end British North Americans occupied parts of northern Michigan which were returned as part of the Peace Treaty. So if you ask us about the war of 1812, we’d say the American attempt to take British North America failed, hence the purpose of the declaration of war was twarted. Many States refused to supply soldiers especially in New England who wanted nothing to do with “Mr. Madison’s War” and some States had rules about their militia being invloved other than the protection of the US so refused to invade while some left to plant and then harvest the crops. (Another inaccuracy is the “taking” of Quebec by the British arising from a military expedition.) For what its’ worth, there was no place called Canada in 1812-14 so I don’t know who or what was invaded technically….and I don’t think anybody actually wins a war in a strategic sense.

Two interesting headlines I read on thinkprogress.org that made me go hummmmmmm.

Fox’s Chris Wallace Takes Fox And Friends ‘To Task’ For ‘Two Hours Of Obama Bashing’ 3/21

Then today I read:

“Wallace backs down on Fox and Friends disagreement”

………………..Wallace revealed that a Fox News executive sent him an e-mail after his Fox and Friends appearance to say, “isn’t this the kind of thing we should be talking about off camera, not on camera?”

Songbird — I believe I suggested that you might be interested in looking into NARAL…

http://www.naral.org

Thanks!

Fish – perhaps we should say that some baptists have no sense of humor — LOL

“kscitydude” noted –

“Fox’s Chris Wallace Takes Fox And Friends ‘To Task’ For ‘Two Hours Of Obama Bashing’ 3/21″

“Wallace backs down on Fox and Friends disagreement”

“…Wallace revealed that a Fox News executive sent him an e-mail after his Fox and Friends appearance to say, ‘isn’t this the kind of thing we should be talking about off camera, not on camera?’”

These kinds of memos from Fox Noise Channel executives are manifold and well-documented.

For anyone — even those who worship at the altar of Faux News — to think it is anything other than a right wing propaganda machine defies evidence, logic, and rational thought.

Probably a good idea Fish — Wouldnt want to get a bonfire started this early!! :-D

You work graveyard, Fish??

Yea, I can understand that… however, it does remind me of a story :-)

“A 16-year-old girl of Seligman, MO tried to hide her pregnancy, and hid her newborn girl in a plastic bag in a closet Monday.”

Nice Try Fake Butter — This girl miscarried… That has no connection to abortion!! NOBODY would buy that… From your report of this incident, the girl KILLED her new born baby, that actually wasnt mis-carried…. but born alive… She finished it off!! THAT is murder… not abortion… she should be tried for some degree of murder!!

Lame brain!!

Chas. – I apologize. Obviously, I misunderstood. (I don’t think I misunderstood the dude who posted after you, though. And to think, I was actually in the on-line presence of someone who’s never, ever sinned. Shiver me timbers!)

As for NARAL – that’s a difficult issue for me. They are an organization dedicated to abortion rights – not about individual folly and/or emotional fallout. Thus, my issues aren’t their problem, nor are they yours – or anyone else’s for that matter.

I no longer support abortion rights that surpass the first trimester; nor is my heart in exactly the same place it was three years ago. I do not wish to regress to the past; I do, however, believe we must move forward. We must invent preventive measures that do not harm anyone, in my opinion. We must more fully utilize the double effect rule (in which neither the mother’s nor the baby’s life is directly ended). However, curiously, no one seems willing to discuss the protocols of this matter with me.

They’re too busy condemning Dr. Tiller to hellfire. Sad but true.

Anyway, who can fail to be moved by the aforementioned incident:

“A 16-year-old girl of Seligman, MO tried to hide her pregnancy, and hid her newborn girl in a plastic bag in a closet Monday. Investigators say it all started in Bentonville, AR when a doctor who was treating a teen for a miscarriage saw signs that a child was born alive. He called local investigators in Barry County who found the doctor was right but they didn’t find the baby alive. The baby girl was breathing when born, but not when police discovered the tiny body.
There was not a dry eye at the crime scene.”

In my view, complacency isn’t called for – on either side.

I have issues; therefore, I don’t believe NARAL is likely the proper forum for my difficulties.

Again, I apologize for my misunderstanding.

Parkay:What has 3 time the premature birth rates amongst blacks got to do with the abortion rate? What kind of logic is that? Besides I thought the typical woman seeking an abortion was white, professional, or married to one, and in her late 20’s or early 30’s. Lack of prenatal care is more likely the cause of pemature births, but then we are well down the scale in preventable infant mortality rates internationally.

OH goodie, I get an oleo comment.

parkay
Posted March 26, 2008 at 3:27 pm | Permalink
We cannot allow any pharmacists to be forced into filling or referring prescriptions for the morning-after abortifacient Plan B. In some cases, the contraceptive overdose causes a living fertilized human embryo to die. Coercing these prescriptions could be used as leverage to coerce RU-486 abortion drug prescriptions, or participation in various actions necessary for abortions.
We will not tolerate any forced participation in abortions or chemical abortions. We will respect and preserve the right of conscience.
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FIRST of all, the person in this was refilling regular birth control. NOT EC. Emergency Contraception is NOT an abortion. It has been proven that the only way it works is BEFORE fertilization. Same for birth control.

“Nebraska Gov. Dave Heineman signed into law bill LB606 to ban taxpayer funding of human cloning for useless, unethical embryonic stem cell research.”

I hope he and everyone who voted against it get some disease that could be cured with stem cells. You know full well embryonic stem cells are useful. I’ll even bet you got vaccinated…technology that came from aborted cells. But you never comment on that do ya.

“The Lawrence Journal-World’s publication of the AP article citing the increases in premature births and the associated medical problems is fraudulent, in that it leaves out any discussion of abortion as the well-known major risk factor in causing premature births and the associated health risks in infants, as proven in studies over the last two decades or more.”

This and the comment after it is UTTERLY FALSE. The reason you want to dismiss it is the fact that women who carry babies who are likely to be born with problems, women are more likely to abort.
and it shows that babies are NOT viable at that age, without major consequences. The problem with Parkays viable, the earlier they consider a fetus ‘viable’ the more they can restrict a woman’s right. THey demand the woman carry a fetus, even if that means it is born severely disabled, or leaves the mother in severe risk for her life.

“16-year-old girl of Seligman, MO tried to hide her pregnancy, and hid her newborn girl in a plastic bag in a closet Monday. Investigators say it all started in Bentonville, AR when a doctor who was treating a teen for a miscarriage saw signs that a child was born alive. He called local investigators in Barry County who found the doctor was right but they didn’t find the baby alive. The baby girl was breathing when born, but not when police discovered the tiny body.
There was not a dry eye at the crime scene”

THat’s what happens when you insist on prosecuting kids for sex, denying them birth control and education to protect themselves and demanding parental notification. This baby’s death is YOUR FAULT Oleo.

Not a dry eye at the crime scene, did you add that little touch yourself?

:-) I figured that PMama :-)

So what does it mean to be a “card carrying” member of NARAL, PM? Do you get discounts at Dog and Shake or something? Or do you have to flash your card to legally demonstrate outside of Tiller’s clinic?

Herbster, go phuck yourself – that way – no babies.

To:. WSCLARK:. And this benefits people in what way? Are you the cool guy who knocks up girls and pays for abortions and hides behind the denial with humor and a sense of “I have a brilliant personality”??? I dont know why, I was just curious. I quess I was just bored for a second. Herbert West III, west.herb@yahoo.com . P.S. I will let you get, I would not want to bore you with reality, the concept you cannot understand.

Or maybe just one person having sex, not two!

Mary, condoms do pretty good… I dont know what the statistics are on condoms…

“Are you the cool guy who knocks up girls and pays for abortions and hides behind the denial with humor and a sense of “I have a brilliant personality”???”

Well Herbster, I have three children – all unplanned – but all very much wanted. None of my (many) girlfriends have had an abortion due to my impregnating them.

No one in my family has had an abortion, either. None of my two and 2/9ths grandchildren have been planned either but they are all loved and wanted also.

Regardless, we are ALL pro-choice.

Because a woman’s choice to have a child or to have an abortion is NONE OF OUR GOD DAMNED BUSINESS.

Nitwit.

And yes, I am one of the cool guys – I also live up to my responsibilities.

All unplanned and you consider yourself responsible? Do all of the multitude of girlfriends you have just named agree? I count 3 girlfriends and I count that they have 3 kids by example? 6 babies by using your system. Taking resposibility by hiding out with another woman when the first few are pregnant and alone. Then they live by example and their babies do the same. How proud you must be. Herb West III, west.herb@yahoo.com

WSClark:??? NON OF MY GOD DAMNED BUSSINESS??? How can I be damned by something you dont believe in?? Herb West III west.herb@yahoo.com P.S. Are you sure your system works, how many of these many girlfriends do you still see??? How many got away and stoped the system???

I did not say that? I asked a simple question. They dont teach anyone how to remove the condom wants it is used. It holds half the chemistry to make a baby. Noone is taught what to do after. We only concentrate on abortion. Herb West III west.herb@yahoo.com I know how to remove a condom. Did your aborted babies momma know how? How about you?

You must be more of an idiot than I thought Herbster….

Two wives, three children. Two and 2/9ths grandchildren.

I was married to the mother of all three of my children.

“Taking resposibility by hiding out with another woman when the first few are pregnant and alone.”

I do not know what orifice you pulled that one out of (it does stink however) but it is just stupid.

Married to the mother of my first two children for ten years – two kids. Married to the mother of my third child for three years – and received custody of my son upon divorce.

I never shirked my responsibilities – I owe no child support and never received a dime of same, even though I had custody of all three of my children.

I am a good father – just a lousy judge of wives.

Nitwit.

News from our Statehouse. Legislative Day 73:

FUNDING FOR COMMUNITY MENTAL HEALTH CENTERS
The Senate Ways and Means Committee voted last week to restore a
$15.8 million reduction in grants to the state’s community mental health centers. “The intent here is to hold the mental health centers somewhat harmless,” said Ways and Means Chairman Dwayne Umbarger, R-Thayer.
The state’s mental health centers have been reeling since having to switch to a managed care-based payment system last year. Federal officials ordered the switch after auditors questioned whether the state had used Medicaid to pay for services for people who weren’t Medicaid-eligible. Between fiscal years 2007 and 2008, state aid to mental health centers fell from $55 million to $29.2 million, resulting in a $25.8 million shortfall. The Governor addressed the shortfall last year with a $10 million emergency appropriation; legislators added $7 million.
Mike Hammond, executive director at the Association of Community Mental Health Centers, insisted the facilities still need the $8.8 million they didn’t get in fiscal 2008 and the $7 million the governor dropped from her proposed 2009 budget.
Administration officials have argued that $10 million is enough for fiscal 2009, noting that since the switch to a managed care-based system the centers have had access to additional revenues from increased rates and federal grants. The community mental health centers disagree with the governor’s office on this matter.
The 26 centers across the state use the grants to pay for services for patients who cannot afford to pay their bills. Last Thursday, the Senate Ways and Means Committee sided with the centers. Contrary to administration assertions, Mr. Hammond said the centers are not allowed to spend their Medicaid revenues to help defray the cost of services for people who are not on Medicaid. Roughly one-fourth of the patients of community mental health centers are uninsured and earn too much to be eligible for Medicaid, said Hammond. Still, centers are required to serve anyone in need, regardless of their ability to pay.
People who have insurance or who are on Medicaid have their mental health services paid, but no source of payment is available those who have no insurance coverage for mental health services, can’t pay their bills and who aren’t on Medicaid. The centers have to serve them but are dependent on state and local funding to pay for the cost.
Although the Department of Social and Rehabilitation Services officials say that after a center has provided a service and after Medicaid has reimbursed the center for that service, the center is free to spend its reimbursement however it likes, the centers do not believe
that is allowed by federal law. And 15 of the state’s 26 community
mental health centers lost money last year. “There’s an assumption on SRS’ part that the centers’ Medicaid reimbursements are somehow generating excess revenue,” Hammond said. “That’s simply not the case; Medicaid doesn’t cover the cost of providing a service.” Data compiled by the mental health center association show that in 2006, Medicaid revenues fell $33 million short of the centers’ costs for Medicaid services.
State budget officials insist that, since the switch to managed care last year, the centers have access to as much or more funding than in the past. “Because of the uncertainties facing the system last year, the governor put in $10 million in fiscal 2008; the Legislature added $7 million,” said State Budget Director Duane Goossen. “Now that everybody’s had a chance to work through those uncertainties, we’re saying let’s take a look at where we are now, and in the big picture there’s as much or more money coming into the system,” Goossen said.
“It may not be coming in the way the centers would like it to come in and there may be some adjustments to make, but enough time has gone by; it’s time to right the system.” In fiscal 2008, the centers are expected to receive about $210 million in state and federal support.
Earlier this month, the House Appropriations Committee postponed deliberations on the mental health center funding until the consideration of the omnibus reconciliation bill during the wrap up session. That bill is the final, catch-all budget bill written in the final days of the session. The House and Senate omnibus deliberations will be during the wrap up that will begin April 23.

Tuesday from our Statehouse:

IMMIGRATION
The House will be debating an immigration bill, House substitute for Senate Bill 329. The Senate has a different bill, SB 458. I am getting tons of e-mails. Many say both bills are too weak and not strict enough in punishing businesses that hire illegal immigrants. Others say that the bills are too hard on businesses and have other unintended consequences. This is a very difficult issue and a very emotional one for many Kansans.
Here is a breakdown of the two bills lawmakers will debate this week:
In the Senate, the bill would:
? Stiffen penalties for employment identity fraud.
? Stiffen penalties for human trafficking and the exploitation of illegal immigrants.
? Require the attorney general to work with federal authorities on illegal-immigration investigations.
? Create civil penalties for businesses that knowingly hire illegal immigrants.
Senators removed provisions that would:
? Require businesses to check new employees in the federal e-Verify database.
? Block illegal immigrants from receiving in-state tuition at state universities.
In the House, the bill would:
? Place businesses caught knowingly hiring illegal immigrants on probation and require them to use e-Verify.
? Include penalties under which businesses would lose their licenses after the third violation.
? Require that law enforcement officers check the immigration and citizenship status of everyone arrested.
Lawmakers eliminated provisions that would:
? Require everyone getting a Kansas driver’s license to sign an affidavit that they are a U.S. citizen.
? Require all businesses to check whether new employees could legally work in the country using the federal e-Verify database.

Also from our statehouse today:

HEALTH BILLS PASS OUT OF COMMITTEE
Four bills were sent to the House floor for debate yesterday by the House Health and Human Services Committee, including one that would expand the power of the Kansas Board of Healing Arts to regulate unusual but non-medical surgical procedures such as scarification, tongue splitting, and horn implants.
House substitute for SB 596, was the most contentious of the four bills, passing by a slim majority over the heads of members who said the bill’s new legal definition for surgery was too broad and might give the healing arts board too much latitude to “make policy” instead of merely enforcing it. But Mark Stafford, an attorney for the board that regulates Kansas physicians, said it would have been difficult to write a narrower definition but still allow the board the leeway needed to respond to trends such as scarification, tongue splitting and lipo-dissolve in which injections are given ostensibly to eradicate pockets of human fat beneath the skin. In earlier testimony, Stafford had said the board was concerned that some of those procedures were being performed by people who weren’t properly trained in settings that were less than sanitary. Tongue splitting or forking, which is done for cosmetic purposes, was cited as a procedure that could go dangerously awry, perhaps requiring immediate emergency medical treatment.
Other bills endorsed by the committee:
? SB 512 — A measure dealing with certification requirements for emergency medical service workers. The bill was amended to include a provision that would allow the state EMS board to require fingerprinting and criminal background checks of EMS workers who have practiced in Kansas less than three years.
? Substitute for SB 491 — The bill would allow the state pharmacy board to create a prescription drug monitoring committee, a methamphetamine precursor scheduling task force, and a veterinary prescription monitoring program task force.
? Substitute for SB 549 — The bill would require that no later than July 1, 2009, every pharmacy establish a continuous quality improvement
(CQI) program to assess dispensing errors. The CQI reports would be made available for inspection by the state pharmacy board.

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LR
Posted March 26, 2008 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

“Crapn loves to kick cripples at every opportunity.”

….. and you use your disability as a crutch thinking it enables you to be vile and rude — boo hoo — no sympathy here
——————————

Nope, I seldom bring it up.

The Crapn however loves to at every opportunity.

“Nathan I’m happily married. Why are you asking me out? I also think I’m too old for you too.”

I am sure that Mrs. P Mom is a fine young lady, so no offense intended, but Price will obviously try any tact to get a date – even suggesting an evening with a stranger on the Blog.

Dang, she’s even married and Price takes a hit….

That was sort of funny, Clark!!

Hmmm, interesting lawsuit there American Way.

As St Ronnie used to say — “… there you go again,” Capn AM didn’t make fun or demean your disablity in his post — he mistakenly said you were drawing some SSAN disability check —-

“A full third of SS pay-outs go to disabled people under retirement age (like Regular) and orphans under 18.”

… obviously you are the one obsessed with your little pity pot ……. most everyone else has gone beyond being sympathetic to understanding how pathetic a loser you are ….. thats right the world is out to get you and it’s all about you all the time …

er However, I don’t
should be

However, I doubt…

“Never claimed expertise on any of those now have I Clark?”

Name a subject that you do NOT claim to be an expert in, McCreepy……….

So far, it has been EVERY damned thing brought up on the blog.

Loser.

Political Mama,

The other day you said I was full of crap when I said I had worked for tips.

I post with my real name and have no reason to lie about something so petty.

The invitation was so that you could say I am full of crap to my face as I prove to you that I have worked for tips.

“The invitation was so that you could say I am full of crap to my face as I prove to you that I have worked for tips.”

If she said that to your face, Price, were you planning to shoot her?

And poor little jimmymac doesn’t even know that the Sierra Club was not a plaintiff in the 1977 Save Our Wetlands v. Rush lawsuit.

Wish I could find the link to that “invitation” Cant remember what thread I saw that on… Oh well….

Find one post where I claimed I was an expert Clark.

Find a single post where I claimed I was an expert Clark.

Just

one

Post

Clark.

Find that one post where I claimed to be an expert.

Find it and post it.

“Not only can’t you read, you have no grasp on logic either.”

Phuck yourself, Price.

Haven’t found that post yet where I claimed to be an expert Clark?

Watsa matter Clark, can’t back up your claim?

Come on Clark, just one post.

Prove that you are not Door King, Clark.

“Come on Clark, just one post.”

As evidenced by your posts……………

Sigh.

(chortles and pukes)

“Prove that you are not Door King, Clark.”

Got a $100,000 to bet on it McCluer?

I do.

Put your money where your mouth is, fat man.

Chas, BBAK- blogs biggest a$$ kisser. Thin for yourself “pastor”

(chortles)

(heads out the door and laughs at duh Libs)

“Duh Libs show up with their insult fest as predicted.”

Put you money where your big fat mouth is, McCluer!

I can prove that I am not Door King – do ya’ got $100,000 to bet on it?

I do.

Hey, Price, how long are you going to hold onto that cherry? Ya’ know, it will rot before too long.

Once again, what’s his name lurches off to his own solitude when losing in a debate… Or does he have to report for roll call or something??

Betting $100K would put your ass in jail clark

And for what reason might that be ANTI??

Chas, look up, and try to use that thing in your skull.

“Betting $100K would put your ass in jail clark”

And how is that (so-called) ANTI?

It would be a private wager – not organized gambling.

So why doesn’t McCluer pony up?

I guess you (he) are just a chickenshit.

Loser – moron – idiot.

You wont get an answer Clark… I guess its about that time….

Good night; Good luck;
God bless; Whatever you conceive God to be!

Easter Blessings ALL!!!

You are a really disturbing poster here “parkay”.

You bring only stories of pain and loss.

What is it you do or offer to…ya know HELP?

The Kansas budget just cut short “Meals On Wheels”.

And denied health care to many Kansas kids.

Where are you in THOSE fights?

Where are you in ANY fight?

You shoot, you scoot.

Your posts are moot.

It’s too early to post on today’s Open Thread (3/27); however, I believe Herbert West makes a valid point here: How is the male culpable for an abortion if he is uninformed? Would it not be the nadir of cruelty and sadism for me or anyone else to hurl unthinkable invective at him? It would be just that – because it’s wholly unwarranted.

That, in a nutshell, is how many women and young girls have felt through the ages.

I tried to tell my impregnator; he weren’t havin’ none of it. Instead, I and many others got the brunt of his filth. (I can’t repeat it – trust me on that one.) In his case, he DEMANDED that I have an abortion, so he f–king well knew I was pregnant. Frankly, he’s on one end of the moral spectrum – Herbert is on another, in my opinion.

Women – and men, for that matter – can’t have it both ways. The laws that we have in place are imperfect. They’re far better than what was in place decades ago – when scores of women and young girls died from self-induced abortions – but they can be indictable.

How do we rectify this dilemma? Responsible intimacy; honest and forthright communication, certainly. The problem is – our laws cannot always mandate morality. They cannot govern all facets of sexual intimacy – the two persons involved should do so.

Again, I must state: How cruel it would be call Herbert horrible names. That’s how so many of us have felt through the years.

That’s how the six-foot songbird feels when some dorkus exonerates her own rapist from all moral burden……………………….

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